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xripkan
11-29-2019, 03:06 PM
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xripkan
11-29-2019, 03:13 PM
I ordered two SNPs to find out which is my clade under R-F2935 < R-Z93. I am positive to R-YP4768 which has been found in various European areas. So far it has been found in 2 men from England, 1 Scot, 1 from Cantabria of Spain and 1 Pole from Poland/Ukraine borders with distant paternal ancestry from Wallachia . TMRCA is 2700 ybp, so about I share a common paternal ancestor with these individuals from 700 BC or even later.

So it seems that my paternal lineage is from an Alan/Sarmatian tribe from Northern Balkans and more specifically ancient Dacia. Many Sarmatians and Alans moved to England during the Roman period and this could explain how R-Z93 exists in Britain. Furthermore R-Z93 found in Cantabria must have arrived by Visigoths who assimilated many Sarmatians and more specifically the tribe of Roxolani who were livinng in Dacia area. Cantabria is the Spanish area with the highest frequency of Vissigothic haplogroups.
The Pole has distant ancestry from Wallachia which is the area where the tribe of Roxolani were living. So I think that my haplogroup comes from Roxolani. Roxolani were an offshoot of Alans.
The other downstream of R-F2935 is R-F1019 which is from Central Asia (probably from ancient Scythians/Saka tribes of this region). Alans and Sarmatians came in Europe from Eurasian steppes during 2nd century BC. This indicates that my haplogroup is from Alan/Sarmatian tribes and not from older Scythian and Cimmerian R-Z93 tribes of Europe.

xripkan
11-29-2019, 04:26 PM
bump

Jana
11-29-2019, 04:40 PM
Very cool, congrats on your results and getting closer to your paternal origin.

Annihilus
12-03-2019, 06:25 PM
Bump from me and congrats. When you have a rare clade progress is unfortunately very slow.