Updated Mixed Rusyn Grandfather Mega Data Thread (23andme, +gedmatch, +FTDNA, +others)

[asuvis]

My grandfathers recently updated and I hadn't check for a long time, here are all the stats:

https://i.imgur.com/wgW4D50.png


https://i.imgur.com/hzDHSP0.png

Dodecad K7b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Baltic 73.96
2 West_Asian 11.95
3 Southern 11.01
4 Siberian 2.33
5 South_Asian 0.56
6 African 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German (Dodecad) 2.72
2 Dutch (Dodecad) 2.89
3 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 3.4
4 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 3.55
5 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 3.92
6 Kent (1000Genomes) 3.96
7 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 3.98
8 Argyll (1000Genomes) 4.22
9 English (Dodecad) 4.46
10 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 4.6
11 Irish (Dodecad) 4.64
12 British (Dodecad) 4.74
13 British_Isles (Dodecad) 4.95
14 Orcadian (HGDP) 4.97
15 Orkney (1000Genomes) 5.38
16 Polish (Dodecad) 6.1
17 Hungarians (Behar) 6.17
18 Norwegian (Dodecad) 7.34
19 Swedish (Dodecad) 8.16
20 Belorussian (Behar) 8.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.6% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 0.32
2 96.6% Dutch (Dodecad) + 3.4% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 0.32
3 97.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 0.37
4 97.1% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.9% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 0.4
5 97.5% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.5% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 0.4
6 97.3% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.7% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 0.42
7 97.4% Dutch (Dodecad) + 2.6% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.47
8 53.8% Russian (Dodecad) + 46.2% French (HGDP) @ 0.49
9 89.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 10.8% Turks (Behar) @ 0.52
10 89.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 10.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 0.59
11 81.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 18.6% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 0.64
12 82.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 17.5% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 0.69
13 54.4% Russian_B (Behar) + 45.6% French (HGDP) @ 0.72
14 91.3% German (Dodecad) + 8.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 0.73
15 82.5% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 17.5% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 0.74
16 81.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 18.7% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 0.76
17 90.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 9.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 0.77
18 82.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) + 17.1% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 0.77
19 80.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 19.9% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 0.79
20 76.7% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 23.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.82


ANE k7

Population
ANE 17.30 Pct
ASE 3.51 Pct
WHG-UHG 65.50 Pct
East_Eurasian -
West_African 0.28 Pct
East_African 1.05 Pct
ENF 12.35 Pct

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.61
2 North_Atlantic 37.47
3 West_Med 9.82
4 West_Asian 5.79
5 East_Med 5.16
6 Siberian 1.6
7 Northeast_African 1.15
8 Oceanian 1.12
9 South_Asian 0.25
10 Amerindian 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 East_German 7.08
2 South_Polish 7.5
3 North_Swedish 8.09
4 Southwest_Finnish 8.5
5 Hungarian 8.92
6 Austrian 9.02
7 Polish 9.69
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.12
9 Ukrainian 10.36
10 Croatian 11.06
11 Swedish 11.82
12 North_German 12.7
13 Finnish 12.8
14 Russian_Smolensk 12.9
15 Belorussian 13.01
16 Southwest_Russian 13.41
17 Estonian_Polish 13.45
18 Estonian 13.67
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.8
20 Moldavian 14.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.3% Southwest_Russian + 46.7% North_Dutch @ 1.91
2 56.3% Southwest_Russian + 43.7% Orcadian @ 2.04
3 61.7% South_Polish + 38.3% Swedish @ 2.04
4 52.7% Southwest_Russian + 47.3% Danish @ 2.06
5 58.9% Southwest_Russian + 41.1% West_Scottish @ 2.14
6 67.1% South_Polish + 32.9% Norwegian @ 2.2
7 56.9% Southwest_Russian + 43.1% Southeast_English @ 2.27
8 59.4% Southwest_Russian + 40.6% Southwest_English @ 2.3
9 57.7% Southwest_Russian + 42.3% Irish @ 2.31
10 53.1% Estonian + 46.9% West_German @ 2.38
11 51.4% North_German + 48.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.38
12 68% South_Polish + 32% North_Dutch @ 2.39
13 67.4% South_Polish + 32.6% Danish @ 2.41
14 52.5% Southwest_Russian + 47.5% Norwegian @ 2.43
15 58.3% North_Swedish + 41.7% Croatian @ 2.46
16 51.5% North_German + 48.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.46
17 53.5% Ukrainian + 46.5% Swedish @ 2.46
18 55.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 44.3% Orcadian @ 2.55
19 53.3% Swedish + 46.7% Southwest_Russian @ 2.57
20 50.6% North_German + 49.4% Belorussian @ 2.57

MDLP K16

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NorthEastEuropean 31.75
2 Neolithic 22.83
3 Steppe 22
4 Caucasian 19.88
5 Indian 1.43
6 Arctic 1.16
7 Australian 0.44
8 Oceanic 0.36
9 Amerindian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) 2.33
2 Pole (WestPoland) 2.76
3 Ukrainians_north (NorthUkraine) 3.01
4 Pole (EastPoland) 3.35
5 Sorb (Lusatia) 3.69
6 Ukrainian (Ukraine) 3.96
7 Belarusian (Belarus) 4.08
8 Pole (Wroclaw) 4.13
9 Russian (CentralRussia) 4.42
10 Slovak (Slovakia) 4.58
11 Cossack (Kuban) 4.6
12 Pole (Poland) 4.65
13 Swede (Sweden) 4.7
14 Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) 4.72
15 Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) 5.04
16 Belarusian (Zhytkavichy_Homel) 5.06
17 Russian_cossack (Kuban) 5.09
18 Russian (SouthRussia) 5.2
19 Belarusian_East (EastBelarus) 5.4
20 Dutch (Netherlands) 5.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64% Dutch (Netherlands) + 36% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 1.68
2 83.6% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 16.4% English (England) @ 1.7
3 76.3% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 23.7% Dutch (Netherlands) @ 1.7
4 82.2% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 17.8% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.75
5 83.3% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 16.7% Scottish (Fife) @ 1.77
6 82.8% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 17.2% Irish (Munster) @ 1.78
7 54.3% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 45.7% English (England) @ 1.79
8 83.2% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 16.8% Scottish (Dumfries_Galloway) @ 1.8
9 88.1% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 11.9% German (Germany) @ 1.8
10 85.5% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 14.5% Irish (Cork_Kerry) @ 1.83
11 90.1% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 9.9% French (France) @ 1.85
12 85.7% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 14.3% Irish (Connacht) @ 1.86
13 85% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 15% Scottish (Borders) @ 1.87
14 66.8% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 33.2% Pole (EastPoland) @ 1.88
15 79.4% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 20.6% German_Lipsian ((Saxony)) @ 1.88
16 50.9% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 49.1% Shetlandic (Shetland_Islands) @ 1.89
17 85.3% Belarusian (Kobryn_Brest) + 14.7% Scottish (Argyll_bute) @ 1.89
18 53.6% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 46.4% Scottish (Highlands) @ 1.9
19 51.4% Russians-West (WestRussian) + 48.6% Irish (Munster) @ 1.9
20 66.6% Belarusian (Belarus) + 33.4% Irish (Munster) @ 1.91

[Leto]

What about the haplogroups?
Also, DNA Land may be useful too.

[asuvis]

What about the haplogroups?
Also, DNA Land may be useful too.

Mine, then maternal haplogroup V1. Why would FTDNA give such a different reading? Substantially more East Euro than 23andme.

[asuvis]

What about the haplogroups?
Also, DNA Land may be useful too.

My mistake it’s V1a for maternal.

[asuvis]

LivingDNA

https://i.imgur.com/qVkExjZ.png

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Ancient Origins FTDNA

https://i.imgur.com/pI8XufU.png

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Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 26.1
2 Baltic 22.8
3 Atlantic 20.35
4 Eastern_Euro 17.42
5 West_Med 5.67
6 West_Asian 3.54
7 East_Med 2.17
8 Oceanian 0.93
9 Northeast_African 0.6
10 Siberian 0.35
11 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Finnish 6.26
2 South_Polish 6.39
3 Polish 6.67
4 East_German 7.38
5 Ukrainian 7.83
6 Finnish 7.88
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.15
8 Hungarian 8.26
9 Estonian 9.43
10 Austrian 9.52
11 Croatian 9.56
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.05
13 East_Finnish 10.92
14 Belorussian 11.04
15 Southwest_Russian 11.09
16 Estonian_Polish 11.35
17 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.54
18 North_Swedish 11.63
19 Moldavian 12.13
20 La_Brana-1 12.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.7% Southwest_Russian + 40.3% North_Dutch @ 1.75
2 61% Russian_Smolensk + 39% Norwegian @ 1.82
3 71.1% Polish + 28.9% Danish @ 1.84
4 64.9% Southwest_Russian + 35.1% Orcadian @ 1.85
5 75.9% Polish + 24.1% Orcadian @ 1.89
6 71.7% Polish + 28.3% North_Dutch @ 1.92
7 59% Southwest_Russian + 41% Danish @ 1.95
8 62.2% Southwest_Russian + 37.8% Southeast_English @ 1.95
9 64.6% Russian_Smolensk + 35.4% West_Norwegian @ 1.95
10 62.7% Southwest_Russian + 37.3% West_Scottish @ 1.97
11 67.9% Polish + 32.1% North_German @ 2.04
12 62.6% Southwest_Russian + 37.4% Southwest_English @ 2.09
13 62.2% Southwest_Russian + 37.8% Irish @ 2.09
14 70.9% Polish + 29.1% Norwegian @ 2.12
15 74% Polish + 26% Southeast_English @ 2.15
16 74.4% Polish + 25.6% West_Scottish @ 2.17
17 59% Russian_Smolensk + 41% Swedish @ 2.23
18 74.1% Polish + 25.9% West_Norwegian @ 2.25
19 72.4% South_Polish + 27.6% Danish @ 2.27
20 58.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 41.2% North_Dutch @ 2.28

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puntDNAL K10 Ancient

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 46.61
2 CHG 27.23
3 ENF 21.52
4 Siberian 3.85
5 Beringian 0.8

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.69
2 German_North 4.98
3 Irish 5.75
4 Czech 5.92
5 English_South 5.93
6 Hungarian 6.02
7 Scottish_West 6.39
8 Utahn_white 6.91
9 Croatian 7.78
10 Norwegian 8
11 Mordovian 8.98
12 German_South 9.16
13 Icelandic 9.47
14 Belarusian 9.95
15 Russian 11.75
16 Finnish 12.05
17 French 13.42
18 Estonian 13.99
19 Lithuanian 15.05
20 Bulgarian 15.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.6% Hungarian + 33.4% Russian @ 1.45
2 82.3% German_North + 17.7% Chuvash @ 1.74
3 50.5% Mordovian + 49.5% German_South @ 1.88
4 60.6% Croatian + 39.4% Russian @ 1.92
5 53.8% Croatian + 46.2% Mordovian @ 1.96
6 57% Utahn_white + 43% Mordovian @ 2.02
7 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.13
8 62.1% Irish + 37.9% Mordovian @ 2.22
9 60.9% Hungarian + 39.1% Mordovian @ 2.29
10 68% Hungarian + 32% Finnish @ 2.32
11 91.4% Ukrainian + 8.6% Cypriot @ 2.36
12 92.9% Ukrainian + 7.1% Iraqi_Jew @ 2.39
13 93% German_North + 7% Selkup @ 2.39
14 90.8% Ukrainian + 9.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.41
15 88.8% Ukrainian + 11.2% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 2.42
16 92.2% Ukrainian + 7.8% Assyrian @ 2.43
17 92.4% Ukrainian + 7.6% Lebanese @ 2.44
18 91.8% Ukrainian + 8.2% Turkish_Trabzon @ 2.48
19 85.2% Ukrainian + 14.8% Albanian @ 2.48
20 93.1% Ukrainian + 6.9% Saudi @ 2.5

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Heat Map

https://i.imgur.com/6UThT7R.png

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And final thing unless anyone wants anymore

Ancient Eurasia K6

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 42.71
2 Natufian 30.86
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 22.32
4 East_Asian 4.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian 4.93
2 Russian 5.75
3 Norwegian 5.84
4 Europe_LNBA 6.54
5 Steppe_MLBA 6.87
6 Czech 6.91
7 Estonian 6.96
8 Scottish 6.97
9 Icelandic 7.3
10 Finnish 7.32
11 Hungarian 7.82
12 English 7.94
13 Lithuanian 8.6
14 Croatian 10.22
15 French 10.46
16 Romanian 12.92
17 Bulgarian 14.19
18 Spanish 14.94
19 Basque 16.36
20 Albanian 19.25

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78% Norwegian + 22% Steppe_IA @ 1.23
2 73.7% Icelandic + 26.3% Steppe_IA @ 1.28
3 81.3% Ukrainian + 18.7% Steppe_IA @ 1.7
4 79.8% Lithuanian + 20.2% Tajik @ 1.87
5 75% Scottish + 25% Steppe_IA @ 1.91
6 69.5% Adygei + 30.5% Hungarian_KO1 @ 1.94
7 69.5% Adygei + 30.5% WHG @ 1.94
8 81.3% Estonian + 18.7% Balkar @ 1.95
9 75.4% Czech + 24.6% Steppe_IA @ 2.15
10 70.4% Kumyk + 29.6% WHG @ 2.17
11 70.4% Kumyk + 29.6% Hungarian_KO1 @ 2.17
12 72.5% English + 27.5% Steppe_IA @ 2.2
13 76.6% Europe_LNBA + 23.4% Steppe_IA @ 2.22
14 77.8% Lithuanian + 22.2% Balkar @ 2.23
15 81.3% Estonian + 18.7% Kumyk @ 2.24
16 82.4% Estonian + 17.6% Lezgin @ 2.27
17 82% Estonian + 18% Adygei @ 2.32
18 82.1% Estonian + 17.9% Chechen @ 2.34
19 84.5% Estonian + 15.5% Azeri @ 2.39
20 86.5% Europe_LNBA + 13.5% Turkmen @ 2.39

[Lemgrant]

LivingDNA

https://i.imgur.com/qVkExjZ.png

this is with a 23andme file upload? V5 or previous versions?

[asuvis]

this is with a 23andme file upload? V5 or previous versions?

V5 yes, 23andme upload.

Makes sense to me, the first ever results he got in 2018 for 23andme showed 12% Balkan and Croatia as the ancestor location, never knew if it was true but LivingDNA and a few others show 1/8 Balkan as well for him.

[asuvis]

this is with a 23andme file upload? V5 or previous versions?

Also not to mention his K36 map shows quite high 71 for Croatia compared to 60's around it.

You can see here:

https://i.imgur.com/kEm2eJ3.png

[Not a Cop]

He can't be pure Rusyn. They score like West Ukrainians usually.

[vbnetkhio]

Also not to mention his K36 map shows quite high 71 for Croatia compared to 60's around it.

You can see here:

https://i.imgur.com/kEm2eJ3.png

that's Slovenia

[asuvis]

that's Slovenia

Well fuck me I can't see I guess, still odd with that high 71 with nothing around it.

[asuvis]

He can't be pure Rusyn. They score like West Ukrainians usually.

My guy it says in the title "mixed" He at least 1/2 Rusyn with one of his top 3 highest matches on K36 map being west Ukraine.

[asuvis]

Geneplaza:

https://i.imgur.com/rvQbC4I.png

https://i.imgur.com/eXVov6A.png

[Leto]

DNA Land? It's free.

[asuvis]

DNA Land? It's free.

Results processing, is V1a a weird haplogroup to have? Seems pretty rare.

[asuvis]

@leto

https://i.imgur.com/6zuxiLI.png

https://i.imgur.com/DgN13nS.png

[asuvis]

His top matches on mytrueancestry

https://i.imgur.com/o5yzVaV.png

[asuvis]

https://i.imgur.com/qZaKrG0.png

Does anyone think there could be a chance of balkan ancestor?

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Previous 23andme before update

https://i.imgur.com/kIxDE5F.png

[Nurzat]

noice. I knew our forefathers are German Slavs.