True Aryan Jatt results

[Impaler]

Recently I've found this GEDmatch kit number. I was surprised to see how European is this Northern Indian result. This sample is the same with the Jatt_Pathak from Global25.



Eurogenes K13:



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 37.63
2 West_Asian 29.98
3 North_Atlantic 15.35
4 Baltic 12.76
5 Amerindian 1.88
6 Siberian 1.87
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3
8 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Punjabi_Jat 9.78
2 Pathan 13.15
3 Kalash 14.55
4 Burusho 14.86
5 Afghan_Pashtun 16.81
6 Sindhi 17.27
7 Brahmin_UP 18.49
8 Gujarati 21.48
9 Tadjik 21.57
10 Kshatriya 22.34
11 Afghan_Tadjik 24.36
12 Balochi 25.95
13 Bangladeshi 26.38
14 Makrani 26.93
15 Brahui 27.14
16 Dharkar 30.14
17 Kanjar 31
18 Turkmen 32.46
19 Uttar_Pradesh 33.52
20 Tabassaran 33.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% Norwegian @ 2.83
2 85% Punjabi_Jat + 15% West_Scottish @ 2.91
3 84.5% Punjabi_Jat + 15.5% Danish @ 2.96
4 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% Orcadian @ 2.97
5 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% Swedish @ 2.97
6 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% Irish @ 2.98
7 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% North_Dutch @ 3.04
8 84.3% Punjabi_Jat + 15.7% North_German @ 3.22
9 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% North_Swedish @ 3.22
10 85% Punjabi_Jat + 15% Southeast_English @ 3.3
11 85.2% Punjabi_Jat + 14.8% Southwest_English @ 3.3
12 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% South_Dutch @ 3.91
13 84.4% Punjabi_Jat + 15.6% West_German @ 4.01
14 85.7% Punjabi_Jat + 14.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.07
15 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% East_German @ 4.41
16 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% Austrian @ 4.51
17 86.5% Punjabi_Jat + 13.5% La_Brana-1 @ 4.56
18 85.2% Punjabi_Jat + 14.8% French @ 4.64
19 86.2% Punjabi_Jat + 13.8% Finnish @ 4.66
20 84.5% Punjabi_Jat + 15.5% Hungarian @ 4.9



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmin_UP +50% Tadjik @ 9.035837


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% Norwegian +25% Piramalai @ 4.190071


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Balochi + Gujarati + Gujarati + Swedish @ 4.181735



Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 39.99
2 West_Asian 22.29
3 North_Sea 13.8
4 Eastern_Euro 11.67
5 Baltic 4.6
6 Atlantic 4.53
7 Amerindian 1.72
8 Siberian 1.14
9 East_Med 0.17
10 Sub-Saharan 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Punjabi_Jat 8.18
2 Pathan 10.95
3 Kalash 13.05
4 Burusho 13.73
5 Sindhi 14.35
6 Afghan_Pashtun 17.28
7 Brahmin_UP 19.08
8 Balochi 20.44
9 Brahui 21.1
10 Gujarati 21.19
11 Kshatriya 22.47
12 Tadjik 22.97
13 Makrani 23.76
14 Afghan_Uzbeki 24.88
15 Afghan_Tadjik 25.04
16 Bangladeshi 25.74
17 Dharkar 30.17
18 Kanjar 31.29
19 Turkmen 31.72
20 Uttar_Pradesh 33.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% West_Norwegian @ 3.01
2 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% Norwegian @ 3.15
3 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% Swedish @ 3.21
4 86.4% Punjabi_Jat + 13.6% North_Swedish @ 3.28
5 86.9% Punjabi_Jat + 13.1% Orcadian @ 3.38
6 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% North_Dutch @ 3.48
7 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% Danish @ 3.55
8 87.1% Punjabi_Jat + 12.9% West_Scottish @ 3.58
9 87.1% Punjabi_Jat + 12.9% Irish @ 3.66
10 87.2% Punjabi_Jat + 12.8% Southeast_English @ 3.82
11 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% North_German @ 3.82
12 87.2% Punjabi_Jat + 12.8% Southwest_English @ 3.88
13 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.96
14 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% Finnish @ 3.99
15 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% West_German @ 4.06
16 87% Punjabi_Jat + 13% South_Dutch @ 4.33
17 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% East_German @ 4.46
18 87% Punjabi_Jat + 13% East_Finnish @ 4.46
19 87.8% Punjabi_Jat + 12.2% Estonian @ 4.67
20 87.6% Punjabi_Jat + 12.4% French @ 4.79


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Punjabi_Jat +50% Punjabi_Jat @ 9.351488


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% North_Swedish +25% Piramalai @ 4.553398


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kalash + Kalash + North_Swedish + Piramalai @ 4.553398




Dodecad K12b:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.33
2 South_Asian 27
3 North_European 20.7
4 Caucasus 9.09
5 Atlantic_Med 5.46
6 Siberian 2.68
7 Southwest_Asian 0.36
8 East_Asian 0.26
9 Southeast_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.11
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.19
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.13
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 18.97
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.59
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.42
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 23.84
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 24.93
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 25.84
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 26.59
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.23
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 28.44
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.01
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.11
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 32.36
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 32.51
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 32.96
18 INS30 (SGVP) 33.27
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 33.35
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 33.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.02
2 79.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.12
3 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.2
4 80.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.29
5 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.3
6 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.33
7 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.36
8 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.47
9 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.48
10 82.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.51
11 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.58
12 83.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.59
13 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.77
14 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.98
15 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.07
16 73.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 6.15
17 84.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 6.19
18 73.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.2
19 74.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 6.28
20 73.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 6.51


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu +50% Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 7.132470


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Meena_Metspalu +25% Pathan_HGDP +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 3.445585


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 2.796999





puntDNAL K13:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 31.92
2 South_Asia 29.71
3 NE_Europe 23.9
4 SW_Europe 6.3
5 Siberia 3
6 Americas 1.73
7 East_Africa 1.41
8 Oceania 0.87
9 SW_Asia 0.77
10 SE_Asia 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burusho 12.52
2 Pakistan_Pashtun 13.25
3 Kashmir_Pandit 13.48
4 Afghan_Pashtun 14.01
5 Pathan 15.02
6 Punjabi 16.04
7 Sindhi 16.9
8 Tadjik 17.45
9 Balochi 20.12
10 Makrani 21.34
11 Romani 21.75
12 Brahui 21.76
13 Afghan_Uzbeki 22.4
14 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin 24.58
15 Bengali 26.42
16 Kumyk 28.81
17 Chechen 29.96
18 Nogay 30.64
19 Dagestan_Azeri 31.43
20 Balkar 31.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Kashmir_Pandit + 21.7% Mordovian @ 2.26
2 79.2% Kashmir_Pandit + 20.8% Russian @ 2.53
3 75.3% Punjabi + 24.7% Mordovian @ 2.87
4 80.7% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.3% Estonian @ 2.96
5 80.9% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.1% Lithuanian @ 2.97
6 76.2% Punjabi + 23.8% Russian @ 2.98
7 80% Kashmir_Pandit + 20% Polish @ 2.98
8 80.9% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.1% Latvian @ 2.99
9 79.3% Kashmir_Pandit + 20.7% Belarusian @ 3.11
10 77.7% Punjabi + 22.3% Estonian @ 3.14
11 78% Punjabi + 22% Lithuanian @ 3.29
12 76.2% Punjabi + 23.8% Belarusian @ 3.3
13 81.5% Kashmir_Pandit + 18.5% Finnish @ 3.3
14 77% Punjabi + 23% Polish @ 3.36
15 78% Punjabi + 22% Latvian @ 3.38
16 78.5% Kashmir_Pandit + 21.5% Ukrainian @ 3.6
17 76.9% Punjabi + 23.1% Swedish @ 3.8
18 80.1% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.9% Swedish @ 3.83
19 76.6% Punjabi + 23.4% Norwegian @ 4.05
20 75.3% Punjabi + 24.7% Ukrainian @ 4.07



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kashmir_Pandit +50% Tadjik @ 9.966638


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kashmir_Pandit +25% Mordovian +25% Punjabi @ 2.537869


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kashmir_Pandit + Mordovian + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 2.420428




MDLP K23b:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 29.53
2 South_Indian 27.05
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.62
4 Caucasian 14.97
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.53
6 Arctic 2.41
7 Austronesian 1.22
8 European_Early_Farmers 1.13
9 Tungus-Altaic 0.36
10 Archaic_Human 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pakistani_Pushtun ( ) 8.29
2 Jatt_Haryana ( ) 9.15
3 Jatt_Pahari ( ) 10.72
4 Pathan ( ) 11.17
5 Mumbai_Jew ( ) 14.67
6 Burusho ( ) 15.13
7 Cochin_Jew ( ) 15.16
8 Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) 15.63
9 Jatt_Muslim ( ) 16.52
10 Pashtun_Afghani ( ) 16.64
11 Afghan_Pushtun ( ) 17.12
12 Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) 17.94
13 Pakistani ( ) 18.39
14 GujaratiA_GIH ( ) 20.18
15 Sindhi ( ) 20.75
16 Uzbek_Afghan ( ) 21.47
17 Tajik_Afghan ( ) 21.56
18 Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) 21.79
19 Tiwari ( ) 22.74
20 Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) 23.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 37.3% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) @ 2.78
2 71.1% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 28.9% Sakilli ( ) @ 3.09
3 55% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 45% Lambadi ( ) @ 3.14
4 53.1% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 46.9% Bengali ( ) @ 3.14
5 80.9% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.1% Mordovian ( ) @ 3.14
6 72.6% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 27.4% TN_Dalit ( ) @ 3.15
7 70.1% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 29.9% Kamsali ( ) @ 3.15
8 80.4% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.6% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 3.16
9 63% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 37% Muslim_India ( ) @ 3.18
10 56.4% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 43.6% Kanjar ( ) @ 3.19
11 52.5% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 47.5% Telugu_Kannada ( ) @ 3.19
12 72.4% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 27.6% Mala ( ) @ 3.22
13 80.5% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.5% Latvian ( ) @ 3.27
14 53.3% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 46.7% Punjabi_Lahore_PJL ( ) @ 3.28
15 64.2% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) + 35.8% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) @ 3.3
16 59.8% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 40.2% Piramalai_Kallar ( ) @ 3.31
17 69.7% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 30.3% Kol ( ) @ 3.33
18 80.8% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.2% Balt ( ) @ 3.33
19 80.4% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.6% Estonian ( ) @ 3.35
20 54.8% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 45.2% Dharkar ( ) @ 3.36


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan_ +50% Tiwari_ @ 6.912767


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jatt_Pahari_ +25% Mordovian_ +25% Pakistani_ @ 3.695006


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mordovian_ + Punjabi_Gujjar_ + Punjabi_Gujjar_ + Tiwari_ @ 3.309680



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 34.07
2 S-Indian 26.05
3 NE-Euro 20.8
4 Caucasian 10.37
5 Mediterranean 3.55
6 Beringian 2.48
7 Siberian 1.04
8 Papuan 0.6
9 American 0.57
10 SW-Asian 0.38
11 SE-Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 haryana-jatt (harappa) 4.59
2 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 9.83
3 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 11.47
4 nepalese-a (xing) 12.6
5 pathan (hgdp) 12.75
6 kashmiri (harappa) 13.05
7 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 13.29
8 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 13.3
9 sindhi (harappa) 13.53
10 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 13.53
11 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 13.91
12 punjabi (harappa) 14.05
13 up-muslim (harappa) 14.33
14 burusho (hgdp) 14.38
15 bhatia (harappa) 14.57
16 pashtun (harappa) 14.66
17 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 15.18
18 kalash (hgdp) 15.4
19 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 15.56
20 up-brahmin (harappa) 15.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 20.9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 1.91
2 81.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 18.6% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.99
3 80.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19.7% russian (behar) @ 2.15
4 80.5% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.19
5 79.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 20.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.22
6 79.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 20.3% russian (behar) @ 2.44
7 78.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 21.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.44
8 81.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 18.2% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.46
9 93.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 6.7% russian (behar) @ 2.47
10 80.9% punjabi (harappa) + 19.1% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.54
11 93% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 7% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.61
12 93.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 6.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.61
13 92.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 7.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.62
14 76.4% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 23.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.65
15 77.8% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 22.2% russian (behar) @ 2.67
16 94.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 5.3% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.69
17 80.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 19.7% belorussian (behar) @ 2.74
18 94.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 5.9% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.75
19 78.2% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) +21.8 russian (behar) @ 2.75
20 78.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 21.4% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.77




Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% haryana-jatt_harappa +50% haryana-jatt_harappa @ 4.943670


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% haryana-jatt_harappa +25% kalash_hgdp +25% singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.411276


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 gujarati-a_hapmap + kalash_hgdp + russian_behar + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.786042

[Kyp]

Yes strange that they don't look as Aryan as Kalash people for example

[Bakha]

I am 33 Ne Euro on Harappa and that niggah is 20

[marco]

Recently I've found this GEDmatch kit number. I was surprised to see how European is this Northern Indian result. This sample is the same with the Jatt_Pathak from Global25.



Eurogenes K13:



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 37.63
2 West_Asian 29.98
3 North_Atlantic 15.35
4 Baltic 12.76
5 Amerindian 1.88
6 Siberian 1.87
7 Sub-Saharan 0.3
8 Oceanian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Punjabi_Jat 9.78
2 Pathan 13.15
3 Kalash 14.55
4 Burusho 14.86
5 Afghan_Pashtun 16.81
6 Sindhi 17.27
7 Brahmin_UP 18.49
8 Gujarati 21.48
9 Tadjik 21.57
10 Kshatriya 22.34
11 Afghan_Tadjik 24.36
12 Balochi 25.95
13 Bangladeshi 26.38
14 Makrani 26.93
15 Brahui 27.14
16 Dharkar 30.14
17 Kanjar 31
18 Turkmen 32.46
19 Uttar_Pradesh 33.52
20 Tabassaran 33.56

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% Norwegian @ 2.83
2 85% Punjabi_Jat + 15% West_Scottish @ 2.91
3 84.5% Punjabi_Jat + 15.5% Danish @ 2.96
4 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% Orcadian @ 2.97
5 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% Swedish @ 2.97
6 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% Irish @ 2.98
7 84.8% Punjabi_Jat + 15.2% North_Dutch @ 3.04
8 84.3% Punjabi_Jat + 15.7% North_German @ 3.22
9 84.9% Punjabi_Jat + 15.1% North_Swedish @ 3.22
10 85% Punjabi_Jat + 15% Southeast_English @ 3.3
11 85.2% Punjabi_Jat + 14.8% Southwest_English @ 3.3
12 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% South_Dutch @ 3.91
13 84.4% Punjabi_Jat + 15.6% West_German @ 4.01
14 85.7% Punjabi_Jat + 14.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.07
15 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% East_German @ 4.41
16 84.6% Punjabi_Jat + 15.4% Austrian @ 4.51
17 86.5% Punjabi_Jat + 13.5% La_Brana-1 @ 4.56
18 85.2% Punjabi_Jat + 14.8% French @ 4.64
19 86.2% Punjabi_Jat + 13.8% Finnish @ 4.66
20 84.5% Punjabi_Jat + 15.5% Hungarian @ 4.9



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmin_UP +50% Tadjik @ 9.035837


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% Norwegian +25% Piramalai @ 4.190071


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Balochi + Gujarati + Gujarati + Swedish @ 4.181735



Eurogenes K15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 39.99
2 West_Asian 22.29
3 North_Sea 13.8
4 Eastern_Euro 11.67
5 Baltic 4.6
6 Atlantic 4.53
7 Amerindian 1.72
8 Siberian 1.14
9 East_Med 0.17
10 Sub-Saharan 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Punjabi_Jat 8.18
2 Pathan 10.95
3 Kalash 13.05
4 Burusho 13.73
5 Sindhi 14.35
6 Afghan_Pashtun 17.28
7 Brahmin_UP 19.08
8 Balochi 20.44
9 Brahui 21.1
10 Gujarati 21.19
11 Kshatriya 22.47
12 Tadjik 22.97
13 Makrani 23.76
14 Afghan_Uzbeki 24.88
15 Afghan_Tadjik 25.04
16 Bangladeshi 25.74
17 Dharkar 30.17
18 Kanjar 31.29
19 Turkmen 31.72
20 Uttar_Pradesh 33.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% West_Norwegian @ 3.01
2 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% Norwegian @ 3.15
3 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% Swedish @ 3.21
4 86.4% Punjabi_Jat + 13.6% North_Swedish @ 3.28
5 86.9% Punjabi_Jat + 13.1% Orcadian @ 3.38
6 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% North_Dutch @ 3.48
7 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% Danish @ 3.55
8 87.1% Punjabi_Jat + 12.9% West_Scottish @ 3.58
9 87.1% Punjabi_Jat + 12.9% Irish @ 3.66
10 87.2% Punjabi_Jat + 12.8% Southeast_English @ 3.82
11 86.6% Punjabi_Jat + 13.4% North_German @ 3.82
12 87.2% Punjabi_Jat + 12.8% Southwest_English @ 3.88
13 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.96
14 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% Finnish @ 3.99
15 86.7% Punjabi_Jat + 13.3% West_German @ 4.06
16 87% Punjabi_Jat + 13% South_Dutch @ 4.33
17 86.8% Punjabi_Jat + 13.2% East_German @ 4.46
18 87% Punjabi_Jat + 13% East_Finnish @ 4.46
19 87.8% Punjabi_Jat + 12.2% Estonian @ 4.67
20 87.6% Punjabi_Jat + 12.4% French @ 4.79


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Punjabi_Jat +50% Punjabi_Jat @ 9.351488


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kalash +25% North_Swedish +25% Piramalai @ 4.553398


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kalash + Kalash + North_Swedish + Piramalai @ 4.553398




Dodecad K12b:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.33
2 South_Asian 27
3 North_European 20.7
4 Caucasus 9.09
5 Atlantic_Med 5.46
6 Siberian 2.68
7 Southwest_Asian 0.36
8 East_Asian 0.26
9 Southeast_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.11
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.19
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.13
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 18.97
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.59
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.42
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 23.84
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 24.93
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 25.84
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 26.59
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.23
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 28.44
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.01
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.11
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 32.36
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 32.51
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 32.96
18 INS30 (SGVP) 33.27
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 33.35
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 33.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.02
2 79.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 5.12
3 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.2
4 80.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 5.29
5 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.3
6 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.33
7 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.36
8 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.47
9 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.48
10 82.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.51
11 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.58
12 83.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.59
13 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.77
14 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.98
15 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 6.07
16 73.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 6.15
17 84.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 6.19
18 73.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 6.2
19 74.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 6.28
20 73.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 6.51


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh_Metspalu +50% Tajiks_Yunusbayev @ 7.132470


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Meena_Metspalu +25% Pathan_HGDP +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 3.445585


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu_Metspalu + Mordovians_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP + Sindhi_HGDP @ 2.796999





puntDNAL K13:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asia 31.92
2 South_Asia 29.71
3 NE_Europe 23.9
4 SW_Europe 6.3
5 Siberia 3
6 Americas 1.73
7 East_Africa 1.41
8 Oceania 0.87
9 SW_Asia 0.77
10 SE_Asia 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burusho 12.52
2 Pakistan_Pashtun 13.25
3 Kashmir_Pandit 13.48
4 Afghan_Pashtun 14.01
5 Pathan 15.02
6 Punjabi 16.04
7 Sindhi 16.9
8 Tadjik 17.45
9 Balochi 20.12
10 Makrani 21.34
11 Romani 21.75
12 Brahui 21.76
13 Afghan_Uzbeki 22.4
14 Tamil_Nadu_Brahmin 24.58
15 Bengali 26.42
16 Kumyk 28.81
17 Chechen 29.96
18 Nogay 30.64
19 Dagestan_Azeri 31.43
20 Balkar 31.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.3% Kashmir_Pandit + 21.7% Mordovian @ 2.26
2 79.2% Kashmir_Pandit + 20.8% Russian @ 2.53
3 75.3% Punjabi + 24.7% Mordovian @ 2.87
4 80.7% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.3% Estonian @ 2.96
5 80.9% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.1% Lithuanian @ 2.97
6 76.2% Punjabi + 23.8% Russian @ 2.98
7 80% Kashmir_Pandit + 20% Polish @ 2.98
8 80.9% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.1% Latvian @ 2.99
9 79.3% Kashmir_Pandit + 20.7% Belarusian @ 3.11
10 77.7% Punjabi + 22.3% Estonian @ 3.14
11 78% Punjabi + 22% Lithuanian @ 3.29
12 76.2% Punjabi + 23.8% Belarusian @ 3.3
13 81.5% Kashmir_Pandit + 18.5% Finnish @ 3.3
14 77% Punjabi + 23% Polish @ 3.36
15 78% Punjabi + 22% Latvian @ 3.38
16 78.5% Kashmir_Pandit + 21.5% Ukrainian @ 3.6
17 76.9% Punjabi + 23.1% Swedish @ 3.8
18 80.1% Kashmir_Pandit + 19.9% Swedish @ 3.83
19 76.6% Punjabi + 23.4% Norwegian @ 4.05
20 75.3% Punjabi + 24.7% Ukrainian @ 4.07



Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Kashmir_Pandit +50% Tadjik @ 9.966638


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kashmir_Pandit +25% Mordovian +25% Punjabi @ 2.537869


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kashmir_Pandit + Mordovian + Punjabi + Punjabi @ 2.420428




MDLP K23b:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Central_Asian 29.53
2 South_Indian 27.05
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 16.62
4 Caucasian 14.97
5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.53
6 Arctic 2.41
7 Austronesian 1.22
8 European_Early_Farmers 1.13
9 Tungus-Altaic 0.36
10 Archaic_Human 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pakistani_Pushtun ( ) 8.29
2 Jatt_Haryana ( ) 9.15
3 Jatt_Pahari ( ) 10.72
4 Pathan ( ) 11.17
5 Mumbai_Jew ( ) 14.67
6 Burusho ( ) 15.13
7 Cochin_Jew ( ) 15.16
8 Punjabi_Gujjar ( ) 15.63
9 Jatt_Muslim ( ) 16.52
10 Pashtun_Afghani ( ) 16.64
11 Afghan_Pushtun ( ) 17.12
12 Tajik_Pomiri_Ishkashim ( ) 17.94
13 Pakistani ( ) 18.39
14 GujaratiA_GIH ( ) 20.18
15 Sindhi ( ) 20.75
16 Uzbek_Afghan ( ) 21.47
17 Tajik_Afghan ( ) 21.56
18 Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) 21.79
19 Tiwari ( ) 22.74
20 Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) 23.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.7% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 37.3% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) @ 2.78
2 71.1% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 28.9% Sakilli ( ) @ 3.09
3 55% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 45% Lambadi ( ) @ 3.14
4 53.1% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 46.9% Bengali ( ) @ 3.14
5 80.9% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.1% Mordovian ( ) @ 3.14
6 72.6% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 27.4% TN_Dalit ( ) @ 3.15
7 70.1% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 29.9% Kamsali ( ) @ 3.15
8 80.4% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.6% Russian_Vologda ( ) @ 3.16
9 63% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 37% Muslim_India ( ) @ 3.18
10 56.4% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 43.6% Kanjar ( ) @ 3.19
11 52.5% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 47.5% Telugu_Kannada ( ) @ 3.19
12 72.4% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 27.6% Mala ( ) @ 3.22
13 80.5% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.5% Latvian ( ) @ 3.27
14 53.3% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 46.7% Punjabi_Lahore_PJL ( ) @ 3.28
15 64.2% Tajik_Pomiri_Shugnan ( ) + 35.8% Marwadi_Middle_caste ( ) @ 3.3
16 59.8% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 40.2% Piramalai_Kallar ( ) @ 3.31
17 69.7% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan ( ) + 30.3% Kol ( ) @ 3.33
18 80.8% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.2% Balt ( ) @ 3.33
19 80.4% Jatt_Pahari ( ) + 19.6% Estonian ( ) @ 3.35
20 54.8% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) + 45.2% Dharkar ( ) @ 3.36


Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Tajik_Pomiri_Rushan_ +50% Tiwari_ @ 6.912767


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Jatt_Pahari_ +25% Mordovian_ +25% Pakistani_ @ 3.695006


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mordovian_ + Punjabi_Gujjar_ + Punjabi_Gujjar_ + Tiwari_ @ 3.309680



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 34.07
2 S-Indian 26.05
3 NE-Euro 20.8
4 Caucasian 10.37
5 Mediterranean 3.55
6 Beringian 2.48
7 Siberian 1.04
8 Papuan 0.6
9 American 0.57
10 SW-Asian 0.38
11 SE-Asian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 haryana-jatt (harappa) 4.59
2 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 9.83
3 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 11.47
4 nepalese-a (xing) 12.6
5 pathan (hgdp) 12.75
6 kashmiri (harappa) 13.05
7 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 13.29
8 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 13.3
9 sindhi (harappa) 13.53
10 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 13.53
11 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 13.91
12 punjabi (harappa) 14.05
13 up-muslim (harappa) 14.33
14 burusho (hgdp) 14.38
15 bhatia (harappa) 14.57
16 pashtun (harappa) 14.66
17 punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) 15.18
18 kalash (hgdp) 15.4
19 kashmiri-pahari (harappa) 15.56
20 up-brahmin (harappa) 15.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.1% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 20.9% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 1.91
2 81.4% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 18.6% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.99
3 80.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19.7% russian (behar) @ 2.15
4 80.5% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 19.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.19
5 79.2% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 20.8% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.22
6 79.7% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 20.3% russian (behar) @ 2.44
7 78.4% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 21.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.44
8 81.8% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) + 18.2% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.46
9 93.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 6.7% russian (behar) @ 2.47
10 80.9% punjabi (harappa) + 19.1% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.54
11 93% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 7% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.61
12 93.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 6.5% belorussian (behar) @ 2.61
13 92.9% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 7.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.62
14 76.4% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 23.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.65
15 77.8% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) + 22.2% russian (behar) @ 2.67
16 94.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 5.3% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.69
17 80.3% kashmiri-pandit (reich) + 19.7% belorussian (behar) @ 2.74
18 94.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) + 5.9% lithuanian (behar) @ 2.75
19 78.2% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) +21.8 russian (behar) @ 2.75
20 78.6% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) + 21.4% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.77




Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% haryana-jatt_harappa +50% haryana-jatt_harappa @ 4.943670


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% haryana-jatt_harappa +25% kalash_hgdp +25% singapore-indian-d_sgvp @ 2.411276


Using 4 populations approximation:
1 gujarati-a_hapmap + kalash_hgdp + russian_behar + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.786042

Northern Indians have a very european look I would put them in the same category as Europeans to be honest you both have similarities

[Jana]

Northern Indians have a very european look I would put them in the same category as Europeans to be honest you both have similarities

Nice joke.

[lameduck]

Its not rare in the region

Pashtuns can have around 15
Kho people of northern Pakistan can have it around 18-20
one Pakistani sindhi hindu is at 20
and some haryana jatts can also reach 20.

[lameduck]

Nice joke.

these are jatts with ~18 Ne euro from north Indian state of haryana, tbh they look like painted europeans to me.

https://static-news.moneycontrol.com/static-mcnews/2019/10/Jats-770x433.jpg

[Kyp]

these are jatts with ~18 Ne euro from north Indian state of haryana, tbh they look like painted europeans to me.

https://static-news.moneycontrol.com/static-mcnews/2019/10/Jats-770x433.jpg

Yes but not only because of the NE_Euro admixture. They also have a good amount of WestAsian/CHG.

[marco]

these are jatts with ~18 Ne euro from north Indian state of haryana, tbh they look like painted europeans to me.

https://static-news.moneycontrol.com/static-mcnews/2019/10/Jats-770x433.jpg

I agree, I wasn’t even joking I don’t see the problem with having similarities with northern Indians they are lovely people and it’s bound to happen we are humans so we are gonna mix

[Avicenna]

these are jatts with ~18 Ne euro from north Indian state of haryana, tbh they look like painted europeans to me.

https://static-news.moneycontrol.com/static-mcnews/2019/10/Jats-770x433.jpg

What people don't get is North West Indians like jatts from haryana and rajasthan have retained most of their steppe admix, which they don't directly get it from steppe people but diluted filtered down through waves. Its also common among South asians like brahmins since they follow the caste system, so High caste brahmins mix with only other brahmins. Jatts look like regular south asian to me. True aryans pre dating the indo aryan invasions into India are founded in tajikstan, Afghanistan. Like this :

https://i.imgur.com/ZAUuv69.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/g0yjj7v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jx7aQBb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i4ixNIM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XClUWq2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YT19Rqj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9X9Avdn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MzkRXcS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bgaqPhw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bfYgAq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iHzOhSY.jpg

[marco]

What people don't get is North West Indians like jatts from haryana and rajasthan have retained most of their steppe admix, which they don't directly get it from steppe people but diluted filtered down through waves. Its also common among South asians like brahmins since they follow the caste system, so High caste brahmins mix with only other brahmins. Jatts look like regular south asian to me. True aryans pre dating the indo aryan invasions into India are founded in tajikstan, Afghanistan. Like this :

https://i.imgur.com/ZAUuv69.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/g0yjj7v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jx7aQBb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i4ixNIM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XClUWq2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YT19Rqj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9X9Avdn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MzkRXcS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bgaqPhw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bfYgAq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iHzOhSY.jpg

Wow they really look european, they are clearly classified as Europeans

[Avicenna]

Wow they really look european, they are clearly classified as Europeans

South Central Asians have shared ancestry with Europeansx but no direct ancestry from Europeans or Europe itself. Majority of ethnic Pashtuns, tajiks, Pamiris, kalash, nuristani have light recessive genes like those ^, but its more common in rural regions, where recessive genes can pop up more often.

[Leto]

What people don't get is North West Indians like jatts from haryana and rajasthan have retained most of their steppe admix, which they don't directly get it from steppe people but diluted filtered down through waves. Its also common among South asians like brahmins since they follow the caste system, so High caste brahmins mix with only other brahmins. Jatts look like regular south asian to me. True aryans pre dating the indo aryan invasions into India are founded in tajikstan, Afghanistan. Like this :
What makes you think the Tajiks and Pashtuns have remained unmixed since the first waves of Steppe migration to South-Central Asia? Do you mean the Jatts may be part Scythian?

[Avicenna]

What makes you think the Tajiks and Pashtuns have remained unmixed since the first waves of Steppe migration to South-Central Asia? Do you mean the Jatts may be part Scythian?

Unmixed from what I don't understand? If by what you think you mean, you only have to look isolated tribes deep in Hindu kush /Pamir territory. Groups such as kalash, wakhis, Pamiris, nuristanis, rural Pashtuns and Tajiks have all remained isolated yet they score similar results to each other as well as urban groups in the same area.

[lameduck]

Wow they really look european, they are clearly classified as Europeans

here is a classification plate from COON , lightest people in the region are found in isloated Moutains of East Afghanistan and West Pakistan , but they havent reached cities yet where population is darker. But still I am sure in large groups they will not look europeans.

https://i.imgur.com/UOX1AiW.png

[Leto]

Unmixed from what I don't understand? If by what you think you mean, you only have to look isolated tribes deep in Hindu kush /Pamir territory. Groups such as kalash, wakhis, Pamiris, nuristanis, rural Pashtuns and Tajiks have all remained isolated yet they score similar results to each other as well as urban groups in the same area.
Well, my question was why do you think Tajiks and Afghans are more legit Aryan descendants than Punjabi Jatts? Is it because the latter are more South Asian genetically?

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

South Central Asians have shared ancestry with Europeansx but no direct ancestry from Europeans or Europe itself. Majority of ethnic Pashtuns, tajiks, Pamiris, kalash, nuristani have light recessive genes like those ^, but its more common in rural regions, where recessive genes can pop up more often.

Are there any remnants of soviet age foreign populations in tajikistan?(russians, germans)

[bulunulu]

Are there any remnants of soviet age foreign populations in tajikistan?(russians, germans)

There are VERY few thugh. Seen a few articles and vid's and all. But theyre still there.

[bulunulu]

Well, my question was why do you think Tajiks and Afghans are more legit Aryan descendants than Punjabi Jatts? Is it because the latter are more South Asian genetically?

Jatts and rors might be more indo-iranic than many pashtuns and tajiks due to us having higher amount of BMAC ancestry(and maybe also a bit turkic and persian).

Jatts and rors are more of a mix between IVC and indo-iranics + a bit bmac(if any).

[Leto]

Are there any remnants of soviet age foreign populations in tajikistan?(russians, germans)
Russians were less than 1% back in 2010 (government census). They were largely in the capital, Dushanbe and a couple of other cities. Most of Tajikistan is still rural and mountainous. So the answer is basically no. Why do you think that should be relevant? Russians are not Central Asian. My mom was born in the Uzbek SSR, went to school in the Turkmen SSR but she is neither of that.

[Leto]

Jatts and rors might be more indo-iranic than many pashtuns and tajiks due to us having higher amount of BMAC ancestry(and maybe also a bit turkic and persian).

Jatts and rors are more of a mix between IVC and indo-iranics + a bit bmac(if any).
Why are you a sock puppet now, Hussein?

[bulunulu]

Why are you a sock puppet now, Hussein?

Because for some reason i got banned. DOnt know why tbh. I didnt do anything actually.

[Oghuz]

What people don't get is North West Indians like jatts from haryana and rajasthan have retained most of their steppe admix, which they don't directly get it from steppe people but diluted filtered down through waves. Its also common among South asians like brahmins since they follow the caste system, so High caste brahmins mix with only other brahmins. Jatts look like regular south asian to me. True aryans pre dating the indo aryan invasions into India are founded in tajikstan, Afghanistan. Like this :

https://i.imgur.com/ZAUuv69.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/g0yjj7v.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jx7aQBb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/i4ixNIM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XClUWq2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/YT19Rqj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9X9Avdn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MzkRXcS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bgaqPhw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bfYgAq1.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iHzOhSY.jpg

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

[Leto]

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.
Unfortunately they were seriously affected by Mongoloid invasions. Even the Yunusbayev average is 15% Mongoloid. Some can be as much as 20%, I believe (not counting people with recent Uzbek ancestry). Compare with users Mingle and Hussein Khan who are both 2-3% only (on GEDmatch).

[lameduck]

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

tajik genetics have been seriously effected by turko mongol invasion of central asia , but still in isolated pockets of gilgit baltistan , badakshan Afghansitan and south tajikistan there live non turkic mixed tajiks.

[Hajimurad]

Indo-Iranic speakers (Aryans) should be differentiated into three groups:
1) Vedic Aryans (Pakistan and North India).
2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan).
About Jats I heard many different theories (including Dardic, Indo-Scythian, Yuechi etc) but they bore name from Yadu(Yadava) tribe of Vedic Aryans and speak languages, derived from Shuraseni prakrit (Punjabi, Rajasthani, Jattki). Also, according to Denzil Ibbetson, many Jat clans trace their descent from Rajputs.

[bulunulu]

Indo-Iranic speakers (Aryans) should be differentiated into three groups:
1) Vedic Aryans (Pakistan and North India).
2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan).
About Jats I heard many different theories (including Dardic, Indo-Scythian, Yuechi etc) but they bore name from Yadu(Yadava) tribe of Vedic Aryans and speak languages, derived from Shuraseni prakrit (Punjabi, Rajasthani, Jattki). Also, according to Denzil Ibbetson, many Jat clans trace their descent from Rajputs.


"2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan)."

Arent ALL iranics from CA descended from sakas and avestans?
Why is it avestan for central asians and not sakas for them or pamiris and afghans having avestan ancestry too?
Dont see why indo-iranic ancestry between central asians and pamiris + afghans should be different....

[Hajimurad]

"2)Avestan Aryans (Iran and Central Asia).
3) Sakas/Scythians (Pamir and Afghanistan)."

Arent ALL iranics from CA descended from sakas and avestans?
Why is it avestan for central asians and not sakas for them or pamiris and afghans having avestan ancestry too?
Dont see why indo-iranic ancestry between central asians and pamiris + afghans should be different....

Because Pashto and Pamiri Tajik languages are Eastern Iranian, spoken by nomad Sakas (Scythians) and Yuechi (Massagetae) and related to Khotan Saka language. They both indeed have Avestan and Vedic ancestry but it's not important than Eastern Iranian. For example Pashtuns have tribes of Pashai and Nuristani origin. According to Russian ethnographers many Tajiks of Yazgulam, Wakhan and Sarykol trace their origin from Kashmir, Hunza-Nagar, Khyber and Mashhad.

[Arcadefire]

Word "Jatt" derives from the sanskrit word "Jati" which originally loosely translated to the word "community" to describe those who worked in the farms along the fertile land under the mountains. Many of such farmers ended up owning their lands and later came into prominence in society. It makes no sense when the word "Jatt" is used to describe an entire group of population in India.

[Leto]

Is there any info on Y DNA distribution in the Pamir region? Are they as high in R1a as Pashtuns (40-50%)? I believe Afghanistan Tajiks are around 25-30% R1a.

[Nurzat]

West_Asian 29.98
North_Atlantic 15.35
Baltic 12.76

almost 60% White DNA. he's more than half White

[Avicenna]

Very good post. Steppe and whatever foreign entity entered present day Pakistan or North India did not get there on a Ryan Air Flight. These waves were already Iranicised through BMAC interaction. Real descendants of Aryans in their purest form are Caucasoid Persian Tajiks and no one else.

As well nuristanis, Pamiris, Pashtuns imo. All the men I posted are one or more of these groups I mentioned.

[Avicenna]

Unfortunately they were seriously affected by Mongoloid invasions. Even the Yunusbayev average is 15% Mongoloid. Some can be as much as 20%, I believe (not counting people with recent Uzbek ancestry). Compare with users Mingle and Hussein Khan who are both 2-3% only (on GEDmatch).

No that's tajiks from tajikstan excluding pamiris, yaghnobis, wakhis and so on. They score very small amounts of East eurasian. Tajiks from afghanistan is a mess. True tajiks, from badakhson, takhar, kapisa, parwan, panjshir and surrounding areas score similar east eurasian to Pashtuns. Then there are "tajiks" from balkh, kabul and so on who score very high amounts of East eurasian, usually from cities and urban regions. These are the Afghans who probably look Latino and asian looking.

[Avicenna]

Is there any info on Y DNA distribution in the Pamir region? Are they as high in R1a as Pashtuns (40-50%)? I believe Afghanistan Tajiks are around 25-30% R1a.

I think its mainly R1a

[Avicenna]

Well, my question was why do you think Tajiks and Afghans are more legit Aryan descendants than Punjabi Jatts? Is it because the latter are more South Asian genetically?

Why? Because aryans came down the steppes and got iranicsed. Through waves they invaded the sub continent. Jatts retain more of their aryan ancestry according to autosomal methods. This is a vague explanation though, it's a bit more complicated.

[lameduck]

Well, my question was why do you think Tajiks and Afghans are more legit Aryan descendants than Punjabi Jatts? Is it because the latter are more South Asian genetically?

it is shared ancestry of south central asians and northern south asians ,its not like one is more legit than other and also imo it is independent of language , religon since this region is very complex.

[Avicenna]

it is shared ancestry of south central asians and northern south asians ,its not like one is more legit than other and also imo it is independent of language , religon since this region is very complex.

But if the source of their aryan genes are from south central asians....arent the latter more "legit" than the former? ( even though I don't care about this)

[lameduck]

But if the source of their aryan genes are from south central asians....arent the latter more "legit" than the former? ( even though I don't care about this)

yeah but look at that region some jatts are scoring even more than pashtuns but less than pamiris , distribution is lot more complex.

[Avicenna]

yeah but look at that region some jatts are scoring even more than pashtuns but less than pamiris , distribution is lot more complex.

That's on a individual basis, which again goes back to autosomal methods. Jatts are highly inbred between themselves which might explain the results? Also it depends what methods you are talking about, since alot of the G25 runs done on AG are by amatuers. I'm referring to davidskis work as well as papers published by academia

[lameduck]

That's on a individual basis, which again goes back to autosomal methods. Jatts are highly inbred between themselves which might explain the results? Also it depends what methods you are talking about, since alot of the G25 runs done on AG are by amatuers. I'm referring to davidskis work as well as papers published by academia

than you know better , also not every type of group has been tested yet , i am sure there are pashtuns who will score has high as some kho/chitrali in 20 range.

[bulunulu]

West_Asian 29.98
North_Atlantic 15.35
Baltic 12.76

almost 60% White DNA. he's more than half White

A HUGE chunk of his west asian(if not like 80%) is gedrosian, which isnt even high in south east europeans like greeks and also very low in west turks. I doubt actual west asians even get higher "west asian" than this jatt. The gedrosian however peaks a lot more in pakis, indians and most afghans. So not "more than half white".

[Avicenna]

A HUGE chunk of his west asian(if not like 80%) is gedrosian, which isnt even high in south east europeans like greeks and also very low in west turks. I doubt actual west asians even get higher "west asian" than this jatt. The gedrosian however peaks a lot more in pakis, indians and most afghans. So not "more than half white".

Why thumb me down? Are you denying that AG is mostly amatuers who have started doing G25 runs? Do you not see them being constantly corrected with samples they use? Heck, one user was a beginner a few months ago and was clueless and now he's suddenly become an expert. Give me a break.

They also seem very biased which I don't want to get into.

[Dna8]

Great aesthetics.

[Trouble]

But if the source of their aryan genes are from south central asians....arent the latter more "legit" than the former? ( even though I don't care about this)

The south central asians who contributed to these indian groups were much more steppe heavy than modern day Pashtuns, nuristanis, and even Tajiks as far as I know. The genetics of both regions has been in flux since the bronze age.

[bulunulu]

Why thumb me down? Are you denying that AG is mostly amatuers who have started doing G25 runs? Do you not see them being constantly corrected with samples they use? Heck, one user was a beginner a few months ago and was clueless and now he's suddenly become an expert. Give me a break.

They also seem very biased which I don't want to get into.

Dude, not ALL of them are amatheurs.

But i agree. A good bunch of them are biased.