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chap
03-17-2009, 10:18 PM
Fakenham in Norfolk. Men here are allegedly genetically close to men from Friesland based on Y-chromosone analysis. http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/full/19/7/1008

Perhaps of interest also: http://www.geocities.com/thurlowons/eagdna/frame_set.html

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Loki
03-17-2009, 10:38 PM
Interesting. Looks like very average English looks.

When I drove through northeast Norfolk, I was expecting to see more blondism, as this was the landing pad for the Germanic migrations, especially the Angles and Saxons. However the population did seem more dark to me (and less Nordic) than one can expect to see in northeast Netherlands and Denmark. There could be many explanations for this, and I have a few theories of my own. :coffee:

Ĉmeric
03-17-2009, 10:52 PM
Interesting. Looks like very average English looks.

When I drove through northeast Norfolk, I was expecting to see more blondism, as this was the landing pad for the Germanic migrations, especially the Angles and Saxons. However the population did seem more dark to me (and less Nordic) than one can expect to see in northeast Netherlands and Denmark. There could be many explanations for this, and I have a few theories of my own. :coffee:Post- Industrial Revolution population movements? Or maybe going further back to the time of the enclosures & the dissolution of the monasteries? Or perhaps even further back to the Black Death & surviving peasants taking advantage of the acute labor shortage to seek better working conditions from land-rich & serf-poor lords? And then there is the ongoing debate about whether the English are really Germanic or just Germanized Britons?

Treffie
03-17-2009, 11:00 PM
It's quite noticeable how many Borreby's there are. :thumb001:

Allenson
03-18-2009, 03:12 PM
Post- Industrial Revolution population movements? Or maybe going further back to the time of the enclosures & the dissolution of the monasteries? Or perhaps even further back to the Black Death & surviving peasants taking advantage of the acute labor shortage to seek better working conditions from land-rich & serf-poor lords? And then there is the ongoing debate about whether the English are really Germanic or just Germanized Britons?

Let's not forget the incredible population drain to the colonies over the past 400 years.

I'm always surprised that this is never mentioned in anthropological or genetic studies of anywhere in the Isles. It must have had a sustantial impact on the phenotypic & genotypic make up presently found across the Isles.

Or, perhaps it's assumed that it was a reasonably representative sample across the board that left for newer shores....?

chap
03-18-2009, 04:59 PM
Around half (or just over half?) of the soccer players could pass for north Germanics and I think that's a fair reflection of the maximal Norse/Saxon impact, fits in with the genetic picture too.

Loki
03-18-2009, 05:16 PM
Around half (or just over half?) of the soccer players could pass for north Germanics and I think that's a fair reflection of the maximal Norse/Saxon impact, fits in with the genetic picture too.

Yes, from these images. Having spent some time around Norfolk, I know that there are plenty of darkish and short people (i.e. non-Nordish) in the area, especially the smaller towns it seems.