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Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 02:19 PM
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Phenotypical comparison of Hungarians from Miskolc, Budapest, Debrecen and Szeged +Best fit outside Hungary

1. Miskolc:
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Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 06:53 PM
Budapest:
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Benyzero
12-03-2019, 07:23 PM
Budapest:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=93306&d=1575402541

XD

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 07:31 PM
Debrecen:
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The Blade
12-03-2019, 07:45 PM
The fits are, like I have said many times, other Central European states (Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Poland), Balkan ones (especially Slovenia, Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria) + certain Western areas like France and Switzerland. As a group they don't resemble any ethnicity eastwards Slovakia.
Budapest seems more leptoprosopic and, if I have to compare, out of Bulgarian cities I mentioned in my thread is more similar to Sofia and Plovdiv.
On the contrary, people from Miskolc and Debrecen show a higher frequency of broad-faced types and resemble more Bulgarians from Varna.

Lousianaboy
12-03-2019, 07:50 PM
west Hungary is more pontid or north pontid, nordic, noric, dinaric and alpinid while the east is more baltid, grid and Neo danubian, something interesting my mom is faelid and I dont know about the faelid phenotype in Hungary, perhaps im just a gracilized faelid and makes me look north atlantid or perhaps im north atlantid with a slight faelid influence

Benyzero
12-03-2019, 07:51 PM
west Hungary is more pontid or north pontid, nordic, noric, dinaric and alpinid while the east is more baltid, grid and Neo danubian, something interesting my mom is faelid and I dont know about the faelid phenotype in Hungary, perhaps im just a gracilized faelid and makes me look north atlantid or perhaps im north atlantid with a slight faelid influence

potato influence

Lousianaboy
12-03-2019, 07:53 PM
potato influence

what do you mean with potato influence ? I dont understand

Benyzero
12-03-2019, 07:54 PM
what do you mean with potato influence ? I dont understand

Im just reacting from the top of my head. Is your mom fully hungarian?

Lousianaboy
12-03-2019, 07:57 PM
Im just reacting from the top of my head. Is your mom fully hungarian?

German/German mennonite-Austrian-Hungarian origin

Benyzero
12-03-2019, 07:59 PM
German/German mennonite-Austrian-Hungarian origin

That is where the faelid from, It isn't really present in hungary.

Lousianaboy
12-03-2019, 08:03 PM
That is where the faelid from, It isn't really present in hungary.
but there are examples I think

Benyzero
12-03-2019, 08:04 PM
but there are examples I think

sure

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:07 PM
Szeged:
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Jana
12-03-2019, 08:11 PM
You should add Pecs to represent Transdanubia :)

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:20 PM
The fits are, like I have said many times, other Central European states (Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Poland), Balkan ones (especially Slovenia, Croatia, Romania and Bulgaria) + certain Western areas like France and Switzerland. As a group they don't resemble any ethnicity eastwards Slovakia.
Budapest seems more leptoprosopic and, if I have to compare, out of Bulgarian cities I mentioned in my thread is more similar to Sofia and Plovdiv.
On the contrary, people from Miskolc and Debrecen show a higher frequency of broad-faced types and resemble more Bulgarians from Varna.

I made pitcures about the people of Szeged:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373079&viewfull=1#post6373079

The Blade
12-03-2019, 08:21 PM
Szeged has a strong leptoprosopic influence, too.

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:23 PM
You should add Pecs to represent Transdanubia :)

Would be good, but the 4 biggest cities in Hungary are Budapest (capital; Central Hungary), Debrecen (East Hungary), Szeged (Southeast Hungary) and Miskolc (Northeast Hungary).

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:30 PM
You should add Pecs to represent Transdanubia :)

But what your opinion about the pitcures in this thread?

Pitcures the people of Miskolc:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6372468&viewfull=1#post6372468

Budapest:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6372958&viewfull=1#post6372958

Debrecen:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373010&viewfull=1#post6373010

Szeged:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373079&viewfull=1#post6373079

Jana
12-03-2019, 08:40 PM
But what your opinion about the pitcures in this thread?

Pitcures the people of Miskolc:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6372468&viewfull=1#post6372468

Budapest:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6372958&viewfull=1#post6372958

Debrecen:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373010&viewfull=1#post6373010

Szeged:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373079&viewfull=1#post6373079

I can't see big difference, all are in normal Hungarian range.

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:43 PM
I can't see big difference, all are in normal Hungarian range.

Ok!

Where they fit? (of course, outside Hungary)

Jana
12-03-2019, 08:51 PM
Ok!

Where they fit? (of course, outside Hungary)

Slovakia and Czech Republic the best, IMHO.

Tooting Carmen
12-03-2019, 08:56 PM
Debrecen looks slightly more Balkan-shifted than the other two.

Dna8
12-03-2019, 08:56 PM
Nice thread, man.

When I get the energy to do some perceiving, I'll come back to it.

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:58 PM
Nice thread, man.

When I get the energy to do some perceiving, I'll come back to it.

Ok!

Hungarian_master
12-03-2019, 08:58 PM
Debrecen looks slightly more Balkan-shifted than the other two.

What about Szeged?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?308956-Phenotypical-comparison-of-Hungarians-from-Miskolc-Budapest-Debrecen-and-Szeged&p=6373079&viewfull=1#post6373079

pelikarski
12-03-2019, 09:00 PM
Pontid/N.Pontid. Neo Danubian, Dinarid, Nordid, Gorid

Slovakia
Croatia
ROmania
Poland
Czech Republic

Blondie
12-03-2019, 09:13 PM
They looks same, there is no regional differences in Hungary.

Kivan
12-03-2019, 09:19 PM
They look Central-Eastern Europeans, as a group and pass in other countries in the region.
Budapest seem to have more long-faced Mediterranid and Nordid types while the other is noticeable the higher amounts of Alpinids, Baltids and other short-faced/brachycephalic types.

Out of the options, i would say to ones in Budapest are the closest ones to people in my region while Miskolc, the least.

Dna8
12-03-2019, 11:28 PM
For now, I will just suggest that all cannot pass anywhere outside of Europe.

They are holding to the centre of the Old Continent something fierce.

Hungarian_master
12-04-2019, 06:49 PM
Bump!

aherne
12-05-2019, 05:16 AM
I don't think they look the same. Those from Miskolc are totally indistinguishable from Slovaks. Those from Szeged resemble Yugos more or less. Those from Budapest have obvious German influences. Those from Debrecen are similar to Romanians.

Roy
12-05-2019, 04:21 PM
They don't look very different from Poles, even some groups could fool me as just consisting of people from Poland. Those from Miskolc are very ''Polish looking'' to my eye (understood as neutral).


Phenotypically: rather diversified in equal amounts: Alpine, North Pontid / Nordid , Baltid, Noric, Faelid. Mediterranid, few Ladogans / East Baltids. I don't see any exotic Pamirid or Dinaro-Med / Turanid phenotypes that sometimes pop up in Hungarians.


The best fits: Slovakia, Poland, Ukraine, Germany, Slovenia.

Roy
12-06-2019, 12:21 PM
I'd like to add that those from Miskolc are the most neutral looking for Poland.