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Grace O'Malley
12-04-2019, 10:16 AM
Chinese data are only from the most developed regions in China.
US and UK rose and Japan fell.
East Asian countries dominated in maths.

Best in Europe Estonia, Finland & Ireland.

https://i1.wp.com/factsmaps.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/PISA-worldwide-ranking-average-score-of-mathematics-science-reading.png

Once again, China (the provinces of Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Zhejiang) and Singapore came out on top, ranking first and second, respectively, in all three subjects. Estonia, Canada, Finland, and Ireland rounded out the top five (see chart below).

https://neatoday.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/2018-PISA-Results.png

https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA%202018%20Insights%20and%20Interpretations%20F INAL%20PDF.pdf

savvas
12-04-2019, 06:44 PM
Western Europe's scores are dragged down significantly by the immigrant population. And there are enormous disparities between regions in countries like Italy, Spain and Belgium.

Natives-only mean score in math:

https://i.imgur.com/4EmbD2d.png

Barchart:

https://i.imgur.com/sXB0q4N.png

pulstar
12-04-2019, 07:02 PM
I saw this list, and to tell you frankly, I'm surprised Balkan pupils scored so good, I'd expect them a bit below Central and South American countries:

https://www.oecd.org/pisa/PISA-results_ENGLISH.png

Jana
12-04-2019, 07:06 PM
Croatian ministry of education is very unsatisfied with these results, we are currently undergoing biggest educational reform in last decades and they expect better scores from 2024 onward.

pulstar
12-04-2019, 07:09 PM
Croatian ministry of education is very unsatisfied with these results, we are currently undergoing biggest educational reform in last decades and they expect better scores from 2024 onward.

That's a joke? Croatia is doing just fine.

Jana
12-04-2019, 07:10 PM
That's a joke? Croatia is doing just fine.

It's on the bottom of EU rankings, especially in mathematics.

Jana
12-04-2019, 07:10 PM
That's a joke? Croatia is doing just fine.

It's on the bottom half of EU rankings, especially in mathematics. Slovenia is doing much better.

Daco Celtic
12-04-2019, 07:16 PM
Look out Chile and Malta, Romania is right on your tail

Harkonnen
12-04-2019, 07:33 PM
Finnish results are going down because the leftist made some commie change that students don't get graded until 5th or 7th year of school, so there is no real incentive to study for tests since everybody gets same "number" no matter what they answer. And obviously also increased immigration.

ixulescu
12-04-2019, 07:36 PM
Personally I don't understand why Romania participates, since the curricula is not tailored at all to PISA tests, and there is no desire to do so in the future.

Zeno
12-04-2019, 07:40 PM
Greek results are low because we don't care about these examinations. We have much harder subjects to deal with at school. And because we have an immigrant community of 1 million with an average IQ of 82.

Ymyyakhtakh
12-04-2019, 08:03 PM
Once again, China (the provinces of Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Zhejiang) and Singapore came out on top, ranking first and second, respectively, in all three subjects.

"Once again"? China didn't rank nearly as high in 2015 (in the previous round of PISA): 6th in math (531), 10th in science (518), and 27th in reading (494). Smells super fishy. In 2015, the Chinese provinces that participated in PISA were Beijing, Shanghai, Jiangsu, and Guangdong (i.e. the same as in 2018 but Guangdong instead of Zhejiang).

Anyway, here's the average score of each country or region (in math, and science, and reading) converted to IQ points (using the formula 100+((x-500)/100)*15):

(average score;math;science;reading;difference from average score in 2015;country or region)
111.8;113.7;113.5;108.2;9.6;China
108.5;110.3;107.7;107.3;0.7;Singapore
106.4;108.7;106.6;103.8;2.3;Macau
104.6;107.7;102.5;103.6;-0.3;Hong Kong, China
103.8;103.5;104.5;103.5;0.2;Estonia
103.0;104.0;104.3;100.6;-1.3;Japan
102.9;103.9;102.8;102.1;0.1;Korea
102.5;104.7;102.4;100.5;-1.0;Chinese Taipei
102.5;101.8;102.7;103.0;-1.0;Canada
102.5;101.0;103.3;103.0;-1.0;Finland
102.0;102.4;101.7;101.8;1.4;Poland
100.7;100.0;99.4;102.7;-0.7;Ireland
100.5;101.3;101.0;99.2;-0.9;Slovenia
100.5;100.3;100.8;100.6;0.6;United Kingdom
100.4;99.1;101.2;100.9;-0.4;New Zealand
100.3;102.8;100.5;97.8;-0.9;Netherlands
100.3;100.3;99.8;100.9;1.0;Sweden
100.2;101.3;99.0;100.2;-0.5;Denmark
100.0;101.2;99.8;99.0;-0.4;Belgium
100.0;100.0;100.5;99.7;-1.2;Germany
99.8;98.7;100.5;100.5;-0.5;Australia
99.7;102.2;99.2;97.6;-1.2;Switzerland
99.5;100.2;98.5;99.8;-1.2;Norway
99.3;99.8;99.5;98.5;0.7;Czech Republic
99.2;96.7;100.3;100.8;1.1;United States
99.0;99.2;99.0;99.0;-0.3;France
98.8;98.8;98.8;98.8;-0.8;Portugal
98.7;99.8;98.5;97.6;-0.2;Austria
98.1;99.4;98.0;96.8;0.1;Latvia
97.3;97.2;97.5;N/A;-1.5;Spain
97.2;99.2;96.2;96.1;0.0;Iceland
97.2;98.2;96.7;96.8;-1.5;Russia
97.0;97.2;97.3;96.4;0.7;Lithuania
96.9;97.2;97.2;96.4;0.7;Hungary
96.5;98.0;95.2;96.4;-1.2;Italy
96.5;97.5;96.5;95.5;-1.0;Luxembourg
95.8;95.8;95.7;96.1;N/A;Belarus
95.8;94.6;95.8;96.8;-0.5;Croatia
95.4;97.9;94.6;93.7;0.9;Slovakia
94.8;94.5;94.3;95.5;-1.0;Israel
94.4;93.1;95.2;94.9;5.8;Turkey
94.4;93.0;95.3;94.9;N/A;Ukraine
93.8;95.8;93.5;92.2;-0.7;Malta
93.0;92.7;92.8;93.5;-0.8;Greece
91.3;92.2;91.0;90.8;N/A;Serbia
90.7;92.7;90.8;88.6;0.0;Cyprus
90.7;87.5;91.6;92.8;-0.8;Chile
90.1;90.2;90.1;89.8;0.2;United Arab Emirates
89.7;91.0;90.7;87.2;-1.3;Malaysia
89.2;89.5;88.9;89.2;-1.5;Romania
89.0;90.4;88.6;88.0;-2.0;Bulgaria
88.7;88.2;89.2;88.6;0.5;Moldova
88.5;89.5;89.7;86.2;N/A;Brunei
88.5;87.7;88.9;89.0;-1.0;Uruguay
88.3;89.5;87.2;88.2;0.5;Montenegro
88.0;90.5;87.5;85.8;0.7;Albania
87.4;86.3;87.8;88.0;0.7;Mexico
87.4;85.0;89.3;87.8;2.6;Jordan
87.2;85.3;87.4;88.9;-0.1;Costa Rica
87.0;87.1;87.8;86.0;0.9;Qatar
86.9;87.8;88.9;84.0;-0.3;Thailand
85.8;83.7;87.0;86.8;-0.8;Colombia
85.3;88.5;84.5;83.0;-6.8;Kazakhstan
85.3;88.0;84.7;83.3;N/A;Azerbaijan
85.3;85.9;84.7;85.5;N/A;Bosnia and Herzegovina
85.2;85.0;85.6;85.2;1.2;Peru
85.0;84.1;87.0;84.0;N/A;North Macedonia
85.0;82.6;85.6;87.0;0.8;Brazil
84.2;81.8;85.6;85.3;-4.0;Argentina
83.0;84.7;82.5;82.0;-2.8;Georgia
82.9;81.0;82.9;84.8;N/A;Saudi Arabia
82.3;81.8;84.4;80.7;-2.0;Indonesia
81.5;84.0;82.6;78.0;0.0;Lebanon
80.2;80.2;81.5;78.8;N/A;Morocco
79.8;78.0;79.8;81.5;N/A;Panama
79.2;79.9;79.8;78.0;-0.2;Kosovo
77.5;78.0;78.5;76.0;N/A;Philippines
75.1;73.8;75.4;76.3;-0.8;Dominican Republic

Kamal900
12-04-2019, 08:05 PM
Personally I don't understand why Romania participates, since the curricula is not tailored at all to PISA tests, and there is no desire to do so in the future.

Well, we guys in the UAE are on par with your country and others like Cyprus and Uruguay, lol.

pulstar
12-04-2019, 08:22 PM
It's on the bottom half of EU rankings, especially in mathematics. Slovenia is doing much better.

Everything you just said is normal, and logical. If was anything different you should be worried, because it wouldn't project the actual (accumulated) state of your country. It would be an exceptional generation which would make you falsely believe you're doing better than its actually is.

Morena
12-04-2019, 08:26 PM
I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores. :p

Congrats Ireland! :thumb001:

Zeno
12-08-2019, 03:57 PM
Swedish results are a scam too. 11,1% of the student population was excluded, 300% higher than OECD's average.

Here's a video about the Swedish results:


https://youtu.be/11vdJsTcEMU

gixajo
02-23-2020, 12:32 PM
I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores. :p

Congrats Ireland! :thumb001:

They detected that many students answered all the tests with only A, or only B all the questions in several distant places at the same time, so they invalidate the results. Quite strange.

Anyway in Spain education is a total disaster, every new governement changes the law continually, and every region has their own education program , in many regions you estudy in two languages (Spanish and regional language) , teatchers have lost the authority and the arrival of foreigners (50% of the primery students of my village for example are form ou Spain) make impossible teach all of them at the same rhithm.

gixajo
02-23-2020, 12:35 PM
I do not trust Chinese scores in the slightest. The Chinese have a long, venerable history of cheating on tests. I am sad Spain isn't on the list. Apparently, there were some irregularities. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE]The OECD has decided to defer the publication of the PISA 2018 reading results, both national and sub-regional, for Spain. Spain’s data met PISA 2018 Technical Standards. However, some data show implausible student-response behaviour. Consequently, at the time of publication of this report, comparability of Spain’s results in reading cannot be assured (see Annex A9). PISA 2018 reading results for Spain are therefore not published in this report. Results in the mathematics and science domains appear less affected by this anomalous response behaviour. Further review will confirm this.[/QUOTE

I think Portugal did pretty well. I am sad about all the Latin Am. scores. :p

Congrats Ireland! :thumb001:

They detected that many students answered all the tests with only A, or only B all the questions in several distant places at the same time, so they invalidate the results. Quite strange.

Anyway in Spain education is a total disaster, every new governement changes the law continually, and every region has their own education program , in many regions you estudy in two languages (Spanish and regional language) , teatchers have lost the authority and the arrival of foreigners (50% of the primery students of my village for example are form out Spain) make impossible teach all of them at the same rhythm.

Teutone
02-23-2020, 12:56 PM
Germany gotta be fake