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Creoda
12-08-2019, 12:33 PM
In order, of France, Netherlands, England or Germany?

And in which country does each individual pass best?

Joos Valgaeren
http://celticunderground.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/joos_valgaeren.jpg

Wilfried Van Moer
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/39/45/0e39452f1736553d3f8de4466fcbadc1.jpg

Erwin Vandenbergh
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d7/bb/b9/d7bbb9aed50674b31db24d2af3e26830.jpg

Michel Renquin
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/10250.jpg

Franky Vercauteren
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbZU9GdCEAAQAcQ.jpg

Wesley Sonck
http://ligamistru-2003-2004.xf.cz/obrazky/fotky/ajax/400x600/wesley_sonck.jpg

Michel Preud'homme
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HAEJX4/michel-preudhomme-belgium-benfica-fc-25-june-1994-HAEJX4.jpg

Jean-Marie Pfaff
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/95378-1448456121.jpg

Eric Gerets
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-6th-september-1989-eric-gerets-belgium-defender-picture-id78990899?s=594x594

Yves Vanderhaeghe
https://i1.wp.com/lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NUKpYs_B7zA/T_hHgH6oMrI/AAAAAAAAFNg/UufEO9PesZ4/s297/YvesVanderhaeghe3.jpg

Eric Deflandre
https://static.foba1.com/bilder/spieler/gross/1108.jpg

Gert Verheyen
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7554668178_efd84e84e2_b.jpg

Marc Degryse
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/4359.jpg

Filip De Wilde
http://www.solofutbol.cl/Imagenes/Albunes%20de%20futbol/belgica/belgica%201998/de%20wilde,%20filip%201998.jpg

Michel de Wolf
http://static.weltsport.net/bilder/spieler/gross/4361.jpg

Franky van der Elst
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTSpALWwAE08Qf.jpg:small

Pat van den Hauwe
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/pat-van-den-hauwe-birmingham-city-picture-id650807084?s=612x612

Danny Veyt
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e6/5a/6f/e65a6ff75b944a164a57c6c65cccd3a4.jpg

Rene Verheyen
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-1980srene-verheyen-belgium-picture-id78979827

Francois van der Elst
https://svenskafanscdn.blob.core.windows.net/image-7/843471.jpg

Samnium
12-08-2019, 12:37 PM
NW Euro (I include France) countries, some can pass as Iberian like him :

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-6th-september-1989-eric-gerets-belgium-defender-picture-id78990899?s=594x594

Or even balkanite ? :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTSpALWwAE08Qf.jpg:small

Jana
12-08-2019, 12:39 PM
Is it only me who thinks Belgians have unique look - not quite French, not quite German, not quite British, not quite Dutch.

Not a Cop
12-08-2019, 12:41 PM
Netherlands
Germany
England
France

Rico33
12-08-2019, 12:41 PM
Is the 70's a Country ?

Creoda
12-08-2019, 12:42 PM
Is it only me who thinks Belgians have unique look - not quite French, not quite German, not quite British, not quite Dutch.
Yes, you might call it... Belgian.

Rico33
12-08-2019, 12:42 PM
NW Euro (I include France) countries, some can pass as Iberian like him :

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-6th-september-1989-eric-gerets-belgium-defender-picture-id78990899?s=594x594

Or even balkanite ? :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTSpALWwAE08Qf.jpg:small

Yet there is no need Iberian influence here. So where does it come from?

Jana
12-08-2019, 12:44 PM
Yes, you might call it... Belgian.

They look more alien to me than any other, in a sense I think I know what is typical face for other nations, but for Belgians....really hard to say.

Creoda
12-08-2019, 12:46 PM
Is the 70's a Country ?
It's mostly 80s and 90s players, when Belgium was last a decent team.

Rico33
12-08-2019, 12:47 PM
They look more alien to me than any other, in a sense I think I know what is typical face for other nations, but for Belgians....really hard to say.

Generally people have small faces and high heads. Somewhat bended noses maybe too.

Rico33
12-08-2019, 01:26 PM
It's mostly 80s and 90s players, when Belgium was last a decent team.

Their hair hides the skull shapes, though.

leisitox
12-08-2019, 01:38 PM
They look more alien to me than any other, in a sense I think I know what is typical face for other nations, but for Belgians....really hard to say.

Its the Gaulish blood :D
https://img.purch.com/o/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXdzYXJhbWEuY29tL2ltYWdlcy9pLzAwMC 8yNjgvMDYzL2kwMi9Bc3Rlcml4LmpwZw==

Samnium
12-08-2019, 01:40 PM
Its the Gaulish blood :D
https://img.purch.com/o/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXdzYXJhbWEuY29tL2ltYWdlcy9pLzAwMC 8yNjgvMDYzL2kwMi9Bc3Rlcml4LmpwZw==

A really high number are passable as french, even the lightest one (as Northern French).

Creoda
12-08-2019, 01:51 PM
They look more alien to me than any other, in a sense I think I know what is typical face for other nations, but for Belgians....really hard to say.
I know they're not genetically very distinct, but I still just consider Flemings to be the most Southern Dutch, and Walloons the most Northern French. The Belgian on this thread will protest at that but that's how I see it.

Rico33
12-08-2019, 01:58 PM
I know they're not genetically very distinct, but I still just consider Flemings to be the most Southern Dutch, and Walloons the most Northern French. The Belgian on this thread will protest at that but that's how I see it.

Well genetically we are more homogeneous than Dutch and French. The Dutch have a genetic border with the Rhine and in France there are probably many regional differences. The most distinct area from others in Belgium, genetically, seems to be the province of Antwerp, as far as I can interpret genetic maps (correct me if I am wrong).
I also think we cluster with Northern/Eastern France and Southwest Germany.

Batavia
12-08-2019, 02:06 PM
Yves Vanderhaeghe looks like John Cleese.

Creoda
12-08-2019, 02:35 PM
Well genetically we are more homogeneous than Dutch and French. The Dutch have a genetic border with the Rhine and in France there are probably many regional differences. The most distinct area from others in Belgium, genetically, seems to be the province of Antwerp, as far as I can interpret genetic maps (correct me if I am wrong).
I also think we cluster with Northern/Eastern France and Southwest Germany.
The way I've come to see it, NW Europeans are so genetically similar anyway that cultural affiliations can just about override inconsistencies in the genetic picture.

dududud
12-08-2019, 02:58 PM
NW Euro (I include France) countries, some can pass as Iberian like him :

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-6th-september-1989-eric-gerets-belgium-defender-picture-id78990899?s=594x594

Or even balkanite ? :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTSpALWwAE08Qf.jpg:small

Both looks Northern Frog like my father.

xtal
12-08-2019, 09:12 PM
Were they good players? that’s the question!

Septentrion
12-08-2019, 11:25 PM
In order, of France, Netherlands, England or Germany?

And in which country does each individual pass best?

Joos Valgaeren
http://celticunderground.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/joos_valgaeren.jpg

Wilfried Van Moer
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/39/45/0e39452f1736553d3f8de4466fcbadc1.jpg

Erwin Vandenbergh
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/d7/bb/b9/d7bbb9aed50674b31db24d2af3e26830.jpg

Michel Renquin
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/10250.jpg

Franky Vercauteren
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BbZU9GdCEAAQAcQ.jpg

Wesley Sonck
http://ligamistru-2003-2004.xf.cz/obrazky/fotky/ajax/400x600/wesley_sonck.jpg

Michel Preud'homme
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/HAEJX4/michel-preudhomme-belgium-benfica-fc-25-june-1994-HAEJX4.jpg

Jean-Marie Pfaff
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/95378-1448456121.jpg

Eric Gerets
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-6th-september-1989-eric-gerets-belgium-defender-picture-id78990899?s=594x594

Yves Vanderhaeghe
https://i1.wp.com/lh5.googleusercontent.com/-NUKpYs_B7zA/T_hHgH6oMrI/AAAAAAAAFNg/UufEO9PesZ4/s297/YvesVanderhaeghe3.jpg

Eric Deflandre
https://static.foba1.com/bilder/spieler/gross/1108.jpg

Gert Verheyen
https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8008/7554668178_efd84e84e2_b.jpg

Marc Degryse
https://s.hs-data.com/bilder/spieler/gross/4359.jpg

Filip De Wilde
http://www.solofutbol.cl/Imagenes/Albunes%20de%20futbol/belgica/belgica%201998/de%20wilde,%20filip%201998.jpg

Michel de Wolf
http://static.weltsport.net/bilder/spieler/gross/4361.jpg

Franky van der Elst
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChTSpALWwAE08Qf.jpg:small

Pat van den Hauwe
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/pat-van-den-hauwe-birmingham-city-picture-id650807084?s=612x612

Danny Veyt
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/e6/5a/6f/e65a6ff75b944a164a57c6c65cccd3a4.jpg

Rene Verheyen
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/sport-football-pic-1980srene-verheyen-belgium-picture-id78979827

Francois van der Elst
https://svenskafanscdn.blob.core.windows.net/image-7/843471.jpg

North - West Europe (particularly the Netherlands, Southern England, Northern France, Western Germany).

Creoda
12-09-2019, 02:29 AM
Nico Claesen - another that looked similar to Veyt and Van der Elst. Would look odd/wouldn't pass in England.
https://tmssl.akamaized.net/images/portrait/originals/97099-1530953555.jpg
https://pictures.abebooks.com/MORGENROT/20358794106.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/belgium-player-nico-claesen-looks-on-during-a-50-defeat-by-france-in-picture-id1079374376?s=612x612

Tchek
12-09-2019, 10:12 AM
Yves Vanderhaeghe looks like John Cleese.

Vandehaeghe looks very British.
https://tmssl.akamaized.net//images/portrait/header/6744-1537868295.jpg?lm=1537868326

Rico33
12-09-2019, 10:41 AM
Vandehaeghe looks very British.
https://tmssl.akamaized.net//images/portrait/header/6744-1537868295.jpg?lm=1537868326

Because of his 'noble' expression ?

Creoda
12-09-2019, 10:44 AM
Vandehaeghe looks very British.
https://tmssl.akamaized.net//images/portrait/header/6744-1537868295.jpg?lm=1537868326
Somewhat, looks more like Tony Hadley than Cleese though

http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Spandau+Ballet+Make+Public+Announcement+HfR-LoXXEfDl.jpg

Septentrion
12-12-2019, 06:28 PM
Yet there is no need Iberian influence here. So where does it come from?

Why do you always have to go Iberia? There are some dark North-West Europeans. They do not have to be Iberian, thanks to genetical studies, it has been proven that they aren’t. Look at France, Luxembourg, parts of Germany, Netherlands also have darker types, which had been noted by anthropologists.

Rico33
12-12-2019, 06:33 PM
Why do you always have to go Iberia? There are some dark North-West Europeans. They do not have to be Iberian, thanks to genetical studies, it has been proven that they aren’t. Look at France, Luxembourg, parts of Germany, Netherlands also have darker types, which had been noted by anthropologists.

I am not going to Iberia at all. It is not because they have always been noticed by anthropologists that they originate here. I mean, why does it seem to decrease above the Rhine? Maybe below the Rhine there is more influence from ancient migrations following the Danube.