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Illyrius
12-11-2019, 05:31 PM
Hello hello there folks!
Ever since the last two months I've been interested in studying languages, particularly Proto Indo-European, which is a language shrouded in deep mystery.
I happened to come across some PIE cognates that share similar word structure to some words used in the albanian language, and how they connect to other info European languages.
Now keep in mind that I am no linguistic expert and the data in using derives from etymonline.com
PIE cognates are kinda scare and not many of them have been fully attested. Likewise,such words are hypothetical (which means that they may have been slightly different or so, so take it with a grain of salt)
Without much blabbering, let's begin


PIE cognate *melg- meaning "to run off" or "to milk an animal" in the Gheg dialect it's "mel" wheras in the Tosk one it's "mjel/ė"
PIE cognate *gembh- meaning "tooth". In Albanian it's translated to "dhėmb" (Tosk dialect) or "dhām" or "dhamm" (Gheg dialect)
PIE cognate *ters- which apparently means "to dry" in English, in Albanian it translates to "tźr=dry" "tere= to dry it" or "terėt/tert" which again means dry. In the Tosk dialect it's represented in a slightly more different manner as "thatė/thatėsireė" which means dry=dryness but distantly related to "thirst"
PIE cognate *deru-/*dreu which means "steadfast" or "wood/tree/derivatives of said thing, in Albanian it means wood which translates to "dru" (Tosk) or "drū/drśé" in Gheg. , It could also form the word "drejt/drejtė" which means straight
PIE cognate *kap- meaning "to grasp" in albanian this hasn't shifted or changed much from the original cognate. It translates to "kap" in both the same dialect which means "to grasp" but also "to catch"
PIE cognate *leg- (this one is distantly related) which means "to gather/collect" in Albanian it translates to "mledh" (Gheg dialect) or "mbledhē" (Tosk one)
PIE cognate *leigh- meaning "to lock" is somewhat related to the Albanian word "lėpijė" (Tosk) or "lpéj/lpī" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)
PIE cognate *leikw- which means "leave to, leave". In albanian this is distantly related and translates to "dil" telling someone to leave/go outside.
PIE cognate *legwh- which means "lightweight" "not very heavy". In albanian it translates to "lehtė" (Tosk) or "lźt" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinė/kaptźn" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokė"
PIE cognate *kan- meaning "sing/to sing". In albanian, again in the Gheg dialect this seems more related "kāng"=song "kno" to sing. Wheras in the Tosk dialect it's "kėngė"/"kėndoj"
PIE cognate *kae-id- meaning which means "to strike" this one is more related to the tosk albanian word "godit".
PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.
PIE cognate *re- "to reason" it translates to "arsye" see kinda similar (kind of)
PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects
PIE cognate *rei- which means "to run, flow" in Albanian it translates to "rrjedh=flow to flow" (Tosk dialect) or "rredh" in the Gheg dialect. The word run in the albanian language is "vrap/vrapoj" so the R and a are derivatives of the "ei" part of the aforementioned cognate
PIE cognate *tag- which has many meanings (see etymonline.com for more) but the most similar to Albanian is "to speak" or "thuaj" (Tosk) "thuj" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *teks- "to weave/make fabric" in albaian it's "thur/thurje" in both dialects. It also translates to "end" which is almost unrelated.
PIE cognate *ten- which means "to stretch" this one is an interesting one because it's more related to the Gheg word "shtrźj/shtrźjé" compared to the tosk one which is "shtri/shtrijė"
PIE cognate *tere- which has many meanings but the most similar one to Albanian is "overcome" which translates to "tejkaloj"
PIE cognate *terkw- which means "twist" here it translates to "tundė" (Tosk) or "tun" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.
PIE cognate *ost- meaning "bone" translates to "kockė (Tosk) or "koc" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *pau- meaning "fee, little" in albanian it translates to "Pak" in both dialects
PIE cognate *peig- which means to cut. In albanian it translates to "pres" (Tosk) "prej" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *ad- meaning "to or near" in Albanian it translates to "afer" in both dialects.
PIE cognate *ag- which means "to move forth, drive etc" in albanian drive translates to "ngas"
PIE cognate *agro- "field" it translates to "ār" (Gheg) or "arė" (Tosk)
PIE cognate *aik- which means to posses something it translates to "Kam" in both dialects
PIE cognate *aiw- meaning "life, vital" in albanian however this seems kinda distantly related and translates to "jetė" spelled yee teh
PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.
PIE cognate *da- meaning "divide" again this one has more similarity in the Gheg dialect translating to "dą" where's the Tosk on its "ndajė"
PIE cognate *perk- which means "pig,pork" etc in albanian strengely the Gheg translation is "derk" wheras the Tosk one is "derr"
PIE cognate *gel- meaning "freeze" again it's more similar in the geg dialect "ngréj" compared to the tosk one which is "ngrijė"
PIE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)
PIE cognate *bhau- meaning "strike" or "beat" here it translates to rrah which is distantly related of course.
PIE cognate *bheidh- "to trust, persuade" which in albanian trust translates to "besoj" and "persuade" to "bind"
PIE cognate *nebh- meaning "cloud"very distant to the cognate it translates to "re/ré" in both dialects
PIE cognate *nek- which means "death" it translates to "vdekje" (Tosk) or "dźk/dźké" in Gheg
PIE cognate *magh- "to be able" translates to "mundem" (Tosk) and "munem" (Gheg)


That's it guys. It concludes everything I could find on the internet
This is a comparison of how come Albanian every day words originate from the PIE language. I couldn't find any more cognates but will add more once I I'll find any.

Illyrius
12-12-2019, 06:38 PM
Hm
No one seems interested in this.
How come?
Not even Albanians themselves.
I feel lonely.

WeirdLookingFellow
12-12-2019, 06:47 PM
IE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)

A lega in Romanian. If you tie a knot, it's a īnnoda.


PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinė/kaptźn" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokė"

Cap/căpățānă in Romanian.


PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.

Caca in Romanian. Since lots of people I've heard read the c as in choose, in Romanian a c is a k or like the c in complete, unless it's ce/ci where it's like Chinese.


PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects

Drept in romanian means right or we would say ”Mergi drept īnainte” which means go straight ahead.


PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.

Yeet confirmed PIE word.


PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.

I presume the s would be read as a ш , then it would be a ședea (to sit somewhere) in Romanian.

[code]IE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)[/co

Genunchi in Romanian.

Geni
12-12-2019, 06:51 PM
Hm
No one seems interested in this.
How come?
Not even Albanians themselves.
I feel lonely.

E ca domethene kjo Kosova eshte zemra e Serbise ? ...ke pire raki dellinje kur ke bere avatarin ? keto tema jane perfolur 500 here deri tani prandaj...na kane lodhur

Zzzzz
12-12-2019, 06:58 PM
I'm not a linguistic specialist but I've always been fascinated by languages, their development, interaction and so on. I've noticed by accident a very interesting fact: the word "Squirrel" have similar words in Albanian and Bulgarian and derives from Proto Balto - Slavic. It is "keter" in Albanian and katerica in Bulgarian (-ica is a suffix, the root is kater which derived from "to climb" ). All other European languages have totally different words for this animal.

Others from your post:
PIE cognate *ost- meaning "bone" translates to "kockė (Tosk) or "koc" (Gheg)

A "bone" is "kost" in Bulgarian.


PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.

To" sit down" is the verb "sedya".

wood/tree/derivatives of said thing, in Albanian it means wood which translates to "dru" (Tosk) or "drū/drśé" in Gheg.

Wood is "drvo".

Illyrius
12-12-2019, 08:07 PM
IE cognate *leig- which means "to tie" "to bind" in albanian it translates to "lidh" (in both dialects)

A lega in Romanian. If you tie a knot, it's a īnnoda.


PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinė/kaptźn" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokė"

Cap/căpățānă in Romanian.


PIE cognate *kakka- (sorry for this one) which means to poop/defecate in Albanian it translates to "kaka" in both dialects.

Caca in Romanian. Since lots of people I've heard read the c as in choose, in Romanian a c is a k or like the c in complete, unless it's ce/ci where it's like Chinese.


PIE cognate *reg- "move in a straight line/straight" in albanian it translates to "drejt" in both dialects

Drept in romanian means right or we would say ”Mergi drept īnainte” which means go straight ahead.


PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.

Yeet confirmed PIE word.


PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.

I presume the s would be read as a ш , then it would be a ședea (to sit somewhere) in Romanian.

[code]IE cognate *genu- meaning "knee" in Albanian translates to "gju/gjuri" (Tosk) and "gjumi" (Gheg)[/co

Genunchi in Romanian.

Oh!
I'm impressed by the how similar those languages are to each other. I mean yeah they're both IE languages but they seem to have more similarities between eachother.
Know any more words that are alike?

Illyrius
12-12-2019, 08:09 PM
The etymology online website doesn't seem that accurate in tracing some PIE cognates. It lacks many of them likewise.

vbnetkhio
12-12-2019, 08:13 PM
Hello hello there folks!
Ever since the last two months I've been interested in studying languages, particularly Proto Indo-European, which is a language shrouded in deep mystery.
I happened to come across some PIE cognates that share similar word structure to some words used in the albanian language, and how they connect to other info European languages.
Now keep in mind that I am no linguistic expert and the data in using derives from etymonline.com
PIE cognates are kinda scare and not many of them have been fully attested. Likewise,such words are hypothetical (which means that they may have been slightly different or so, so take it with a grain of salt)
Without much blabbering, let's begin


That's it guys. It concludes everything I could find on the internet
This is a comparison of how come Albanian every day words originate from the PIE language. I couldn't find any more cognates but will add more once I I'll find any.

numbers 1-10 and the verb to be - ėshtė are obvious addition for that list

PAGANE
12-12-2019, 08:41 PM
[QUOTE = Illyrius; 6392569] Електронният уебсайт за етимология не изглежда толкова точен при проследяване на някои когнити от PIE. Липсват много от тях по същия начин. [/ QUOTE]

How is the Albanian word for wind and fog?

Illyrius
12-12-2019, 09:25 PM
[QUOTE = Illyrius; 6392569] Електронният уебсайт за етимология не изглежда толкова точен при проследяване на някои когнити от PIE. Липсват много от тях по същия начин. [/ QUOTE]

How is the Albanian word for wind and fog?

Wind is "erė"
And fog is "mjegull"

Glauk
12-13-2019, 02:06 PM
Wind is "erė"
And fog is "mjegull"

Ta qift krejt kosova at mamic qe tka pjell o kopil i shemtuar mongoli, qka e ke at thenje n avatar

vbnetkhio
12-13-2019, 02:21 PM
Wind is "erė"
And fog is "mjegull"

also IE

erė ~ English "air"
mjegull ~ Slavic "magla"

vbnetkhio
12-13-2019, 02:23 PM
IE cognate *teks- "to weave/make fabric" in albaian it's "thur/thurje" in both dialects. It also translates to "end" which is almost unrelated.


in Slavic languages: Krojiti- to cut fabric, Kraj-end.

Mingle
12-13-2019, 03:16 PM
PIE cognate *kaput- which apparently means "head" The Gheg Albanian translation is somewhat more related, "kaptinė/kaptźn" In the tosk dialect it's less similar and translates to "kokė"

In Pashto, it's kaparraai and means "skull".


PIE cognate *ye- which means "throw" in Albanian it's distantly related and translates to both "hedh" in both dialects.

Hedh comes from the PIE *(s)kewd according to Wiktionary. In Pashto, it's chaakh which means"quick, fast, clever".

PAGANE
12-13-2019, 03:50 PM
Hello hello there folks!
Ever since the last two months I've been interested in studying languages, particularly Proto Indo-European, which is a language shrouded in deep mystery.
I happened to come across some PIE cognates that share similar word structure to some words used in the albanian language, and how they connect to other info European languages.
Now keep in mind that I am no linguistic expert and the data in using derives from etymonline.com
PIE cognates are kinda scare and not many of them have been fully attested. Likewise,such words are hypothetical (which means that they may have been slightly different or so, so take it with a grain of salt)
Without much blabbering, let's begin


That's it guys. It concludes everything I could find on the internet
This is a comparison of how come Albanian every day words originate from the PIE language. I couldn't find any more cognates but will add more once I I'll find any.


"ters" - letters, / maybe this is the word for dried wood - cellulose from which the paper is made /, literature - maybe there is some connection
deru - / * dreu- druid
kap- kapan in bulgarian / Trapping, turk-kapkan
melg - fog and bulg./ fog, Moglena-of the Pella regional unit in Macedonia, Greece. Type of air movement My name is Miglena :)
kaput - head - in Bulgarian the same meaning. Hence the caritan - the chief
kakka- in the Bulgarian "aka". the cocoa form is only used for children under 3 years.

Geni
12-13-2019, 05:01 PM
I'm not a linguistic specialist but I've always been fascinated by languages, their development, interaction and so on. I've noticed by accident a very interesting fact: the word "Squirrel" have similar words in Albanian and Bulgarian and derives from Proto Balto - Slavic. It is "keter" in Albanian and katerica in Bulgarian (-ica is a suffix, the root is kater which derived from "to climb" ). All other European languages have totally different words for this animal.

Others from your post:
PIE cognate *ost- meaning "bone" translates to "kockė (Tosk) or "koc" (Gheg)

A "bone" is "kost" in Bulgarian.


PIE cognate *sed- means "sit" or something similar. This one has only use in the Gheg dialect in some gjeh sub dialects and translates to "zetet" which means sit down.

To" sit down" is the verb "sedya".

wood/tree/derivatives of said thing, in Albanian it means wood which translates to "dru" (Tosk) or "drū/drśé" in Gheg.

Wood is "drvo".

Albania was 300 years in Bulgar imperium ..is normal...all slavic words in albanian language come from bulgarian...

Illyrius
12-13-2019, 05:34 PM
Ta qift krejt kosova at mamic qe tka pjell o kopil i shemtuar mongoli, qka e ke at thenje n avatar
Kopil mongoli?
Po un I perkas haplogroupit R1b U152 mor mut.
R1b U152 e di ti se ku gjendet me shumice me European qendrore dhe veri te italis.(Ka dhe nje pjese te vogel me shqipri)
Po ku merr vesh nji kosovar si puna jote
Syt e futun ne kafke nuk Jan tipat mongol.
Kerkoje edhe ne google po deshe.

Glauk
12-13-2019, 07:58 PM
Kopil mongoli?
Po un I perkas haplogroupit R1b U152 mor mut.
R1b U152 e di ti se ku gjendet me shumice me European qendrore dhe veri te italis.(Ka dhe nje pjese te vogel me shqipri)
Po ku merr vesh nji kosovar si puna jote
Syt e futun ne kafke nuk Jan tipat mongol.
Kerkoje edhe ne google po deshe.

Nuk ki shka ma qan bythen mu ktu per haplogrupa, nuk ta bejn ato pamjen fizike se ti mun me ka dhe I1 dhe po te martohesh me nji zezake femit e ty do t jen prap mulato dhe djali i yt do ta trashegoj haplogrupen I1, mujsh me shku kshtu dhe 10 gjenareta mu perzi me zezak e kinez por prap ana mashkulore do ta trashegoj haplugrupen I1

Pse mos po te duket vetja i evropes s mesme apo italian verjor hahahahaha, e ka qir parardhsi jot naj kumane, peqenge apo naj turqeleshe anadolli dhe ti je rezultati

Ke par najher veten n pasqyr shoku? Si kur e ka qir baba motren

Sa per kosov mbaje gojen tane t fliqt

Glauk
12-13-2019, 08:01 PM
Kopil mongoli?
Po un I perkas haplogroupit R1b U152 mor mut.
R1b U152 e di ti se ku gjendet me shumice me European qendrore dhe veri te italis.(Ka dhe nje pjese te vogel me shqipri)
Po ku merr vesh nji kosovar si puna jote
Syt e futun ne kafke nuk Jan tipat mongol.
Kerkoje edhe ne google po deshe.

Nuk e kam ba hala testin gjenetik por nga gojthanat n familje dhe nji i testun i aferm i jemi dohet te jem:
Ev-13 Berisha-Sopi cluster

Glauk
12-13-2019, 08:08 PM
Qka pom shkrujsh privat o kok plehi, shkruje ktu opinonin tand per kosoven ta kqyrin dhe users e tjer shqiptar qe ta shohin qfar muti koke

Illyrius
12-14-2019, 11:14 PM
Qka pom shkrujsh privat o kok plehi, shkruje ktu opinonin tand per kosoven ta kqyrin dhe users e tjer shqiptar qe ta shohin qfar muti koke

Opinioni im.
KOSOVA ĖSHT ZEMRA E SERBISĖ ♥️
he u knaqe tani?

Ik tani ha mut. A do te jap nji lug kafeje se nuk Ka dhe aq shum e te mos mbarohet aq shpejt.
Haje ngadal ngadal e me kursim

Glauk
12-14-2019, 11:59 PM
Opinioni im.
KOSOVA ĖSHT ZEMRA E SERBISĖ ♥️
he u knaqe tani?

Ik tani ha mut. A do te jap nji lug kafeje se nuk Ka dhe aq shum e te mos mbarohet aq shpejt.
Haje ngadal ngadal e me kursim


Veq vazhdo ti shoku me qka dush, veq rruje kryt dhe qafen, se me ksi fjal kur nuk e dish kur t kerset, fjal t rrana jan kto qe pe i fol, e leje mo per popullin tan, veq vazhdo e mos ta nin se ka kosova hala malsor dhe lindin hala nanat trima

Dna8
12-15-2019, 12:00 AM
An Albanian woman offered to teach me how to speak Albanian.

I think that I will take her up on the offer.

MagnusDark
12-15-2019, 12:18 AM
................

He seems trollish. I don't believe he is Albanian. Then again, I have met some Albanians like him that don't like Kosovar Albanians or really any other Albanians for that matter. Theres even a video of a Albanian priest from Michigan saying what Serbs did to Albanians in Kosova was deserved. Unfortunately some of our countrymen are not right in the head. He may be just one of those types. I suspect by the fact his same photos were posted on Eupedia that he is the user "shinyDust".

Only one who says we have tails are Serbs. This user "Illyrius" and that guy in the following video are perfect examples of Serb sympathizers. Even some Albanians from Montenegro were the same. The guy is right, "we are our own worst enemies". He and OP just don't realize they are part of the problem.

See here: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3068325

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDqDqbi8aQ&t=112s

Glauk
12-15-2019, 12:29 AM
He seems trollish. I don't believe he is Albanian. Then again, I have met some Albanians from Malesia Madhe that don't like Kosovar Albanians or really any other Albanians for that matter. Theres even a video of a Albanian priest from Michigan saying what Serbs did to Albanians in Kosova was deserved. Unfortunately some of our countrymen are not right in the head. He may be just one of those types. I suspect by the fact his same photos were posted on Eupedia that he is the user "shinyDust".

See here: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3068325

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDqDqbi8aQ&t=112s

The link on eupedia doesn’t open :/ pm

Dick
12-15-2019, 06:40 AM
He seems trollish. I don't believe he is Albanian. Then again, I have met some Albanians like him that don't like Kosovar Albanians or really any other Albanians for that matter. Theres even a video of a Albanian priest from Michigan saying what Serbs did to Albanians in Kosova was deserved. Unfortunately some of our countrymen are not right in the head. He may be just one of those types. I suspect by the fact his same photos were posted on Eupedia that he is the user "shinyDust".

Only one who says we have tails are Serbs. This user "Illyrius" and that guy in the following video are perfect examples of Serb sympathizers. Even some Albanians from Montenegro were the same. The guy is right, "we are our own worst enemies". He and OP just don't realize they are part of the problem.

See here: https://www.eupedia.com/forum/search.php?searchid=3068325

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDqDqbi8aQ&t=112s

They look like the Sicilian mafia

MagnusDark
12-15-2019, 03:51 PM
They look like the Sicilian mafia

Lol kind of yea.