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vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 07:36 PM
This is still odd. Obviously, we need more samples. Your Canaaite score would have been lower.

we need k13 ancient

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:38 PM
Vahaduo is an unreliable statistical tool. I'm fully cretan and yet this calc gives me 0 of my own ethnicity, despite the fact the cretan average is included in the data .

Really? Do you see South Itlian etc... instead of Cretans? Maybe you should try all of distances.

Voskos
12-24-2019, 07:43 PM
Really? Do you see South Itlian etc... instead of Cretans? Maybe you should try all of distances.

No south italian either just some sardinian and cypriot .

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:46 PM
we need k13 ancient

I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na23M5tXo50-SAQtUPei3JbdfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:48 PM
No south italian either just some sardinian and cypriot .

Did you change ADD DIST COOL section? 0.25X is better, IMO.

Voskos
12-24-2019, 07:52 PM
Did you change ADD DIST COOL section? 0.25X is better, IMO.

Will do later thanks for suggesting.

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:54 PM
Will do later thanks for suggesting.

You are welcome. Hope you get more reliable results.

Bosniensis
12-24-2019, 07:56 PM
I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na23M5tXo50-SAQtUPei3JbdfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.

Do you maybe know Y-DNA of Sungir6 if it's male?

Thracian
12-24-2019, 07:59 PM
Do you maybe know Y-DNA of Sungir6 if it's male?

It should be I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.

Bosniensis
12-24-2019, 08:02 PM
It should be I2a1b2a1a1a1a3-A16681.
so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.

Thracian
12-24-2019, 08:12 PM
so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.

Indeed. You can model yourself with his results and Balkan native samples such as Greeks, Thracian, Romans etc... Global 25 spread sheet also contains Sunghir sample (RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6).

Dick
12-24-2019, 08:14 PM
so he is I-S17250 like myself, and he has 0 Eastern Med, and very little West Med.

Pradjed ti je bio cist a ti si egzotican poput fes na magarcu

vbnetkhio
12-24-2019, 08:20 PM
I can provide all Gedmatch kit numbers that I provided for Ancient K15.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1na23M5tXo50-SAQtUPei3JbdfKms6JLR/view

I can make a spread sheet within a few days. I have to re-check SNP numbers (I did not use samples with low SNP numbers), and some samples do not have Gedmatch kit# anymore.

i merged it with my list:
https://pastebin.com/VbzkJatG

i can do the first half, from AA8478444 to ML9385881 (save their k13 snp count and results) and you the second half, if you want

Bosniensis
12-24-2019, 08:22 PM
Pradjed ti je bio cist a ti si egzotican poput fes na magarcu

ma hajde.. idi u kurac.. a ti si kao čist xD

Thracian
12-24-2019, 08:22 PM
i merged it with my list:
https://pastebin.com/VbzkJatG

i can do the first half, from AA8478444 to ML9385881 (save their k13 snp count and results) and you the second half, if you want

It would be awesome. I can make the second half.

Dick
12-24-2019, 08:29 PM
ma hajde.. idi u kurac.. a ti si kao čist xD

Zezam te bolan. fala Bogu sto mi je pradjed voleo ribu sa Balkana, sto juznije to i sladje. Ne bi danas bio ziv.

WeirdLookingFellow
12-24-2019, 08:31 PM
Distance to: FellowGF
14.46982377 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
18.12692473 Bavaria_STR310
18.88922444 BR2_Hungary
19.75673050 BronzAgeBalkan
19.84390839 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
20.17647888 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
20.26680044 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
20.58934433 MedievalHungarian_DA199
20.85444557 Scythian_SCY311
21.58347748 Vucedol_I3499
21.84251817 Ostuni1
22.43577500 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
22.52847088 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
24.32895189 IA_Ardea_R851
24.36634975 Sunghir6
24.39864750 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
24.70592034 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
25.10011554 HallstattCelt_DA112
25.48792263 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
25.99756719 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
26.32717417 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
26.36186450 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
26.54069517 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
27.02807614 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
27.07927436 MakoCultureHungary_BR1

Distance to: Fellow
14.62428460 BR2_Hungary
14.76355648 MedievalHungarian_DA199
14.98423505 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
16.13330096 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
16.47103822 Bavaria_STR310
17.15162091 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
17.65860130 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
18.30453496 Scythian_SCY311
18.81027113 BronzAgeBalkan
19.03222793 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
19.38113774 HallstattCelt_DA112
19.51666724 Ostuni1
20.11648578 IA_Ardea_R851
20.33889132 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
21.99482439 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
22.26669711 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
22.41896073 Vucedol_I3499
22.61785136 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
22.72589272 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
22.98516478 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
23.19067485 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
24.65590396 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
24.70113155 Sunghir6
24.93313257 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
25.16839288 IA_Civitavecchia_R475



Target: FellowGF
Distance: 5.8216% / 5.82158711 | ADC: 0.5x
56.4 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
33.2 Sunghir6
5.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
4.6 IA_Ardea_R850

Target: Fellow
Distance: 7.5060% / 7.50598745 | ADC: 0.5x
39.8 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
23.4 Sunghir6
21.0 MedievalHungarian_DA199
9.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
6.6 BR2_Hungary
0.2 Ostuni1

Target: FellowGF
Distance: 3.7033% / 3.70334201 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4 Sunghir6
31.6 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
9.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
7.8 IA_Ardea_R850
6.8 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
3.6 Ostuni1
0.4 CovachadelAngel_COV20126

Target: Fellow
Distance: 3.8732% / 3.87324520 | ADC: 0.25x
14.6 Sunghir6
14.4 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
13.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
11.0 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
9.4 Ostuni1
8.8 BR2_Hungary
8.8 HallstattCelt_DA112
6.6 Canaanite_ERS1790729
4.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
4.4 MedievalHungarian_DA199
4.0 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1

Target: FellowGF
Distance: 1.7548% / 1.75482222
45.8 Sunghir6
22.2 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
11.6 ArmenianChalcolithic_I1634
9.2 CovachadelAngel_COV20126
3.6 IA_Ardea_R850
3.0 CheddarMan
2.8 Ostuni1
1.0 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
0.8 Neolithic_Baikal

Target: Fellow
Distance: 0.8896% / 0.88963513
30.2 CheddarMan
19.8 Sunghir6
15.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073
12.4 KaramanKalehoyuk_MA2206
10.4 AnatoliaEarlyNeolithic_Tep003
6.4 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
2.6 Ostuni1
1.2 KennewickMan
1.0 Yoruba00920
0.6 ShamankaEBA_DA337

Nurzat
12-24-2019, 10:10 PM
It’s probably nurzat

no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD

oszkar07
12-25-2019, 11:50 AM
Distance to: Oszkar
5.09413388 hungarian
6.28632643 slovenian
6.41502923 n-european
8.08083535 utahn-white2
8.43911133 utahn-white1
10.61776813 british
12.05555888 french
12.55075695 orcadian
13.33521278 ukranian
15.68503746 serbian
18.73237038 belorussian
19.52568565 mordovian
20.60850310 russian1
20.76668967 romanian-a
22.39260146 russian2
23.25187949 bulgarian
24.82828427 spaniard2
25.89851154 lithuanian
25.94814252 italian
25.99330298 spaniard1
26.68535741 chuvash
31.92295726 tuscan2
32.17426301 tuscan3
32.56959165 tuscan1
35.15013940 spain-basc
35.90226037 puerto-rican1
36.90729467 singapore-indian-d
36.99898377 basque
39.78543578 finnish
39.96603808 ashkenazi

Target: oszkar
Distance: 1.1064% / 1.10640722 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 hungarian
26.0 n-european
15.6 utahn-white1
0.8 french
0.4 nganassan
0.2 bedouin

Lucas
12-25-2019, 03:44 PM
no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD

Those are the worst:)

Jana
12-25-2019, 03:51 PM
no, it's not me, I've got nothing to do with Botosani county. it's one of my friends that tested together with me. in all likeliness his dad's village was originally Ukrainian (Ruthenian) - Botosani is at the border, there's Ukrainians in it as there's Romanians beyond the border into Ukraine.

I've posted my results separately both for Eurogenes and vahaduo, I am modelled as half Ukrainian, but I am one, so no surprise - while this guy is a Romanian nationalist while being genetically half Ukrainian himself, and with a Ukrainian surname xD

Aren't you half Ruthenian? They are not Ukrainians neither genetically not historically, just recently Ukrainized and most Ruthenians resist that.

Cumansky
12-25-2019, 04:01 PM
Aren't you half Ruthenian? They are not Ukrainians neither genetically not historically, just recently Ukrainized and most Ruthenians resist that.

What are you Slovenian witch?

Cumansky
12-25-2019, 04:02 PM
Harappaworld

Target: Cumansky_Harappa
Distance: 0.6102% / 0.61020957
47.2 lithuanian
17.0 basque
12.2 romanian-a
10.2 finnish
8.8 north-ossetian
2.8 mordovian
1.0 puerto-rican1
0.8 sardinian

Cumansky
12-25-2019, 04:03 PM
Target: Cumansky_FatherHarappa
Distance: 2.8893% / 2.88927873
47.8 lithuanian
22.0 romanian-a
15.6 mordovian
8.4 spaniard2
6.2 spain-basc

Cumansky
12-25-2019, 04:04 PM
Target: Cumansky_MotherHarappa
Distance: 2.6902% / 2.69018764
61.0 lithuanian
16.8 morocco-jew
11.0 basque
5.8 finnish
5.4 turkmen-afghanistan

Cumansky
12-25-2019, 04:05 PM
Target: Cumansky_UncleHarappa
Distance: 0.7761% / 0.77606924
41.0 lithuanian
22.8 hungarian
15.0 urkarah
11.8 basque
7.4 bulgarian
1.8 north-ossetian
0.2 altaian

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 10:06 AM
It would be awesome. I can make the second half.

here's the first half:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtIFoZhdDUC5c37beop9KbyfYerrmrc-rqEB3-Ud7tg/edit?usp=sharing

Thracian
12-28-2019, 11:23 AM
here's the first half:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtIFoZhdDUC5c37beop9KbyfYerrmrc-rqEB3-Ud7tg/edit?usp=sharing

Wow. You are super quick. I still need more days to finish part II. I am around half way yet, I am busy nowadays. I guess, I will be faster in this weekend and on New Year holiday.

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 11:26 AM
Wow. You are super quick. I still need more days to finish part II. I am around half way yet, I am busy nowadays. I guess, I will be faster in this weekend and on New Year holiday.

ok, no problem. do you use libre office calc btw?

Thracian
12-28-2019, 11:43 AM
ok, no problem. do you use libre office calc btw?

Well, I did not know the program before you write. Should I use it and merge all the data in LibreOffice Calc?

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 11:55 AM
Well, I did not know the program before you write. Should I use it and merge all the data in LibreOffice Calc?

the format is not the problem, you can do it in Word and i can merge it with my libreoffice file when you finish.
but i recommend libreoffice because it's free and very practical for this stuff.

Lucas
12-28-2019, 12:52 PM
here's the first half:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DtIFoZhdDUC5c37beop9KbyfYerrmrc-rqEB3-Ud7tg/edit?usp=sharing

Ok, still waiting for second half but K13 Ancient is added anyway:)

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13_ancient-vahaduo.htm

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 01:00 PM
https://i.imgur.com/BHY5fQ0.png

Dušan
12-28-2019, 01:01 PM
K13 ancient

https://i.imgur.com/WUzPfNh.jpg




















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vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 01:03 PM
Ok, still waiting for second half but K13 Ancient is added anyway:)

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13_ancient-vahaduo.htm

could a 2way and 4way oracle be implemented into vahaduo?

Ford
12-28-2019, 01:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/ZJC2Q1o.png

Lucas
12-28-2019, 01:11 PM
Target: lukasz
Distance: 4.6974% / 4.69740597 | ADC: 2x
91.4 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_
5.8 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
2.8 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_

Target: lukasz
Distance: 3.4284% / 3.42843884 | ADC: 1x
63.6 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_
19.8 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
16.6 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_

Target: lukasz
Distance: 2.2616% / 2.26161298 | ADC: 0.5x
64.4 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_
12.8 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_
8.6 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC_
8.0 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
6.2 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc_

Target: lukasz
Distance: 1.4152% / 1.41523423 | ADC: 0.25x
73.8 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_
15.2 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc_
10.8 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC_
0.2 copt315_copt315_

Target: lukasz
Distance: 0.0545% / 0.05451082
11.6 Spiginas2_Lithuania_2130_1750y_old_
10.2 Kivutkalns215_Ancient_Inflanty_
8.8 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old_
6.4 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1_
5.6 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old_
5.2 Ukraine_HG_Vasilyevka_11143_10591_9193_8641_cal_BC _M_U5b2_
3.6 Vintas(598)_Vintas(598)_
2.6 RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_
2.4 Srubnaya_I0232_185001200_BC
2.4 Yamnaya_RISE552_Russia_284902143_BC
2.2 Donkalnis7_Lithuania_5460_4940_y_old_
1.8 Anatolian_EF_I0707_
1.8 Kivutkalns153_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a_
1.8 Kivutkalns209_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a_
1.6 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_
1.6 KO1_Tiszaszolos_Domahaza_Hungary_5650_5780_cal_BC_ M_I_L68_R3_
1.4 ZVEJ31_Latvia_MN2_6179_5750_BC4229_3800_cal_BC_
1.2 Kivutkalns222_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a_
1.2 copt315_copt315_
1.0 I1502_BR1_
1.0 Villabruna_WHG_
1.0 Yamnaya_I0231_
1.0 sar00665_sar00665_
0.8 AnatolianEF_I1583_Turkey_
0.8 Canaanite_
0.8 RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_2000_years_M_I_L1228_T2b_
0.8 i1165_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE_
0.6 Bar31_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_Turkey_6419_6238_ calBCE842_
0.6 I0057_Haak2015_
0.6 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)_
0.6 I8215_iberia_
0.6 LBK_Stuttgart._Germany_
0.6 RISE395_Bol_shekaraganskii_Russia_3540_years_F_U2e 1_
0.6 Ukraine_Ukraine_N1_Vovnigi_6469_6293_BC4519_4343_c al_BC_M_U4_
0.6 i1661_iranchl_
0.6 kzb002_srubno_alakulskaya_1878_1664bce_
0.6 scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce_
0.4 AH2_Early_PPN_Tepe_Abdul_Hosein_Iran_8205_7756_cal BCE_
0.4 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_
0.4 AnatolianEF_I0746_Turkey_
0.4 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
0.4 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc_
0.4 I2477_Beaker_No_Steppe_Italy_4kya_
0.4 I7426_iberia_
0.4 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2_
0.4 Kajan_Kajan_
0.4 Motala_1_ostergotland_Sweden_7_000_years_F_U5a1_
0.4 Plinkaigalis242_Plinkaigalis242_Lithuania_3260_263 0y_old_
0.4 RISE00_Sope_Estonia_2000_years_F_H5a1_
0.4 SIJ003_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_5174_U4c1_
0.4 i1662_iranchl_
0.2 84005_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
0.2 ANCIENT_VJ1001_Vonyuchka_1_Steppe_of_N_Caucasus_62 42_year_old_
0.2 Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790_
0.2 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
0.2 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp_
0.2 Biaka00448_Africa_
0.2 ChalcolithicIranian_
0.2 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
0.2 GreekNeolithicKleitos_Kleitos_4230–3995_
0.2 Hung2_P1_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_Hungary_6300_6100_year s_
0.2 I12516_iberia_
0.2 I1496_NE6_HungaryEN_
0.2 I1497_CO1_Hungary_MN_
0.2 I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10_16CE_
0.2 I7424_morisco_
0.2 Kura_Araxes_
0.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_
0.2 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC_
0.2 MK5001_Marinskaya5_Late_Maykop_culture_Nalchik_Py_
0.2 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi_
0.2 N42_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG_
0.2 RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years_CT_CTS4650_J1 _
0.2 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9_
0.2 RISE392_Stepnoe_VII_Russia_3626_years_M_R_P233_J2b 1a2_
0.2 RISE407_Armenian_LBA_
0.2 RISE446_Bergrheinfeld_Germany_4015_years_M_R_M207_ U5b1c2_
0.2 RISE511_Bateni_Russia_4224_years_F_J2a2a_
0.2 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2_
0.2 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years_M_R_M405_K1 b1a_
0.2 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730_
0.2 Tep002_Tepecik_Ciftlik_level_5_c_6500_BCE_8500_BP_
0.2 Tepecik002_Tepecik002_
0.2 UlanIV_Yamnaya_RISE_552_Yamnaya_2496_BC
0.2 Vi33_16_Neanderthal_Vindija_cave_Croatia_38_310_ye ars_F_
0.2 col002_col002_F_H_
0.2 i1152_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE_
0.2 i1183_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE_
0.2 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce_
0.2 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce_

andre
12-28-2019, 01:17 PM
Target: K13
Distance: 5.8536% / 5.85356899 | ADC: 0.5x
64.8 DA195_Hungary_Scythian_ (slav+balkanic)
21.4 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_ (slav)
5.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC (proto-balkan?)
5.2 LevantBA_M291439_ (jewish heritage)
3.0 I7426_iberia_ (what is this?)

J. Ketch
12-28-2019, 01:33 PM
Target: Creoda
Distance: 0.8390% / 0.83897352 | ADC: 0.25x
35.4 Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_years_M_R_DF25_H1a g1_
24.4 Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2b1_
20.6 Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1_
8.8 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0_
7.8 grt035_grt035_Sigtuna_10-12_century
3.0 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV_

Target: Creoda
Distance: 1.6116% / 1.61163941 | ADC: 0.5x
54.6 Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_years_M_R_DF25_H1a g1_
19.4 Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1_
11.6 grt035_grt035_Sigtuna_10-12_century
9.2 Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2b1_
5.2 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0_

Grace O'Malley
12-28-2019, 01:55 PM
I tried the K13 Ancient. I got so many.

Target: Grace
Distance: 0.1282% / 0.12817771
7.6 grt035_grt035_Sigtuna_10-12_century
7.4 Sope_r_Jabara_Estonia_Corded_Ware_culture_4575_435 0_F_H5a1_
7.2 Andronovo_RISE503_Russia_174601298_BC
5.4 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2_
5.4 RISE174_Oxie_7_Sweden_1521_years_W1_
5.2 kzb003_srubno_alakulskaya_1773_1627BCE_M_R1a_R_Z94 _H_
4.2 RISE97_Fredriksberg_Sweden_3590_years_CT_Y1580_K2a 5_
4.0 RISE42_Marbjerg_Denmark_3681_years_M_CT_CTS2711_H2 c1_
3.8 I4252_Malopolska_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b_
3.2 I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_(Empuries1)_500_350_BCE_R_
3.2 84001_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
3.0 RISE496_Arban_1_Russia_3070_years_F_U5a1a2a_
3.0 Sven(566)_Sven(566)_M_
2.6 BeakerNorthItaly_I2478_
2.4 Unetice_I0047_
2.4 mur003_mur003_srubno-alakulskaya_1880-1688bce
2.0 mur004_srubno_alakulskaya_1888_1697bce_
2.0 RISE94_Viby_Sweden_4025_years_M_K_M1221_K1a2a_
1.8 I2405_Neolithic_Paluki_GAC_culture_I2a_I2a_
1.8 M4_Borum_Eshøj_Denmark_LOW_QUALITY_1350_BC_M_B2_
1.8 I0164_Unetice_
1.4 RISE550_PeshanyV_Russia_4312_years_M_R_M520_U5a1_
1.2 IR1_Ludas_Varju_dulo_Hungary_830_980_cal_BC_M_N_M2 31_G2a1_
1.2 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577_Poland_250001900_BC
1.2 I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_
1.2 I2478_Beaker_North_Italy_I2478_
1.0 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
1.0 RISE00_Corded_Estonia_RISE00_Corded_Estonia_
0.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9_
0.8 PR9_PR9_Pokrovka_Russia_EarlySarmatian_5_2_century _BCE_
0.8 LevantBA_M291439_
0.6 84005_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
0.6 I2434_Neolithic_Paluki_GAC_culture_
0.6 RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years_CT_CTS4650_J1 _
0.6 RK4002_Rasshevatskiy_4_4610_R1b1_U4d3_
0.4 i2051_Dolmen_1410_1210_BC_M_J2a_H6a1a2a_
0.4 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce_
0.4 cim359_cimmerian_1008_838bce_
0.4 I2977_Neolithic_Orkney_5kya_
0.4 Motala012_Östergötland._Sweden_5000_BC
0.4 scy303_scythian_Moldova_380_203bce_
0.4 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV_
0.4 RISE175_Abekas_I_Sweden_3025_years_M_F_M235_T1a1_
0.4 SIJ002_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_culture_5125_M_L_U4c1_
0.4 kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce_
0.4 I3808_iberia_
0.4 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
0.2 col003_col003_
0.2 JK1968_Levaluhta_
0.2 ZO2002_Zolotarevka_2_Yamnaya_Caucasus_4850_U5a1_
0.2 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce_
0.2 BronzeAgeSteppe_RISE493_Sabinka._Russia_1200_BC
0.2 MK5001_Marinskaya5_Late_Maykop_culture_Nalchik_Py_
0.2 MK5009_Marinskaya_5_N_Caucasus_4710_R1b1a2_R1a1a_
0.2 Atacama_
0.2 I1656_ArmeniaMLBA_
0.2 MARC1492_Ancient_Mi_kmaq_1492_
0.2 RISE71_2196_2023_BC_Denmark_203_604_
0.2 RISE407_Armenian_LBA_
0.2 Karitiana_Male_II_Karitiana_Male_II_
0.2 Glz_Bai_Glz_Bai_

Distance to: Grace
4.40643847 Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_years_M_R_DF25_H1a g1_
5.37865225 Unetice_I0047_
5.90413414 RISE71_2196_2023_BC_Denmark_203_604_
6.26498204 Rathlin1_IrelandBA_
6.47169993 RISE150_Przeclawice_Poland_3469_years_U5a1b1_
6.72476765 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years_M_CT_CTS3662_ N_
6.80601939 I0099_HalberstadtLNBA_
8.23018226 Sven(566)_Sven(566)_M_
8.33435060 Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2b1_
8.36719188 Hinxton_3_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_K1a4a1a2b_
8.43181475 grt035_grt035_Sigtuna_10-12_century
8.60523097 Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1_
8.72547993 84001_Sigtuna_10_12_century_
8.98849264 RISE94_Viby_Sweden_4025_years_M_K_M1221_K1a2a_
9.07232605 I0112_BellBeaker_
9.13241480 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0_
9.36641340 scy303_scythian_Moldova_380_203bce_
9.41079699 kzb003_srubno_alakulskaya_1773_1627BCE_M_R1a_R_Z94 _H_
9.56899681 I8206_iberia_
9.83160719 Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790_
10.03089727 kls001_Sigtuna_10_12_century_M_R1_h1b1_
10.12271703 RISE392_Stepnoe_VII_Russia_3626_years_M_R_P233_J2b 1a2_
10.31353480 RISE175_Abekas_I_Sweden_3025_years_M_F_M235_T1a1_
10.48418333 RISE562_Landau_an_der_Isar_Germany_F_H2a1e_
10.62630227 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577_Poland_250001900_BC

Lucas
12-28-2019, 02:07 PM
I tried the K13 Ancient. I got so many.

Target:

Try with ADC.


BTW I added this too:

IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016,36.74,7.19,33.37,1,20.51 ,0,0,0,0,1.18,0,0,0
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021,37.07,8.81,31.95,2.08,18.9 4,0.63,0,0,0,0,0.52,0,0
IA_Ardea_R850,11.62,6.21,21.32,16.86,32.99,9.34,0, 0.69,0.66,0,0,0.31,0
IA_Ardea_R851,35.01,14.12,33.47,1.26,16.14,0,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015,35.88,8.02 ,33.68,0,19.97,1.72,0,0.11,0,0.62,0,0,0
IA_Civitavecchia_R475,21.89,7.06,33.22,0,25.63,6.6 ,0,0,0,0,0,3.92,1.68
IA_Civitavecchia_R474,36.98,12.08,25.22,5.32,16.98 ,1.62,0,0,0.78,0.44,0,0.44,0.14
IA_Civitavecchia_R473,33.91,12.08,31.64,0.33,18.52 ,3.33,0,0,0.18,0,0,0,0
IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437,19.08,5.15,27.36,15.02 ,28.43,4.56,0,0.4,0,0,0,0,0
IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435,40.46,14.59,27.65,2. 59,12.1,1.38,0.24,0,0.29,0.64,0,0,0.07
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1,29.01,13.68,21. 75,9.75,19.74,3.46,0,0,1.24,0.94,0.43,0,0

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 03:20 PM
my 2way oracle with the current spreadsheet


[1,] "31.5 % I8215_2iberia_ + 68.5 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "2.1958"
[2,] "31.6 % I8215_3iberia_ + 68.4 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "2.2535"
[3,] "30.3 % I8215_iberia_ + 69.7 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "2.6148"
[4,] "67.4 % AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD_540_640_AD_ + 32.6 % Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi_" "2.8621"
[5,] "35.6 % IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 + 64.4 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "2.9768"
[6,] "27.4 % Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi_ + 72.6 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "3.1627"
[7,] "42.2 % AnatolianEF_I0746_Turkey_ + 57.8 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.3973"
[8,] "32.8 % Kivutkalns209_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a_ + 67.2 % sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74_" "3.4856"
[9,] "47.2 % MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian_ + 52.8 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_" "3.5055"
[10,] "42.7 % LBK_Stuttgart._Germany_ + 57.3 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.5854"
[11,] "42.8 % GreekNeolithicKleitos_Kleitos_4230–3995_ + 57.2 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.6607"
[12,] "35.7 % kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1_ + 64.3 % sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74_" "3.6659"
[13,] "43.9 % NE1_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_Hungary_5070_5310_cal_BC_F_ U5b2c_ + 56.1 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.706"
[14,] "47.5 % DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_ + 52.5 % sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74_" "3.7953"
[15,] "33.4 % Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old_ + 66.6 % sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74_" "3.8112"
[16,] "43.9 % I1506_NE1_HungaryEN_ + 56.1 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.8134"
[17,] "42.7 % I0100_LBK_ + 57.3 % RISE555_Stalingard_Quarry_Russia_4082_years_R_CTS6 23_N1a_" "3.8728"
[18,] "56.5 % IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437 + 43.5 % kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1_" "3.8943"
[19,] "60.1 % DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700_ + 39.9 % I8215_3iberia_" "3.902"
[20,] "56.8 % Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a_ + 43.2 % sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74_" "3.9233"

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 03:33 PM
k13 ancient all in one oracle:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wn6fIv-qw6B6cX1PEg0ikQvjQ-idCOEa/view?usp=sharing

instructions:

everything the same as here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?307588-g25-all-in-one-unscaled-oracle

Lucas
12-28-2019, 03:38 PM
k13 ancient all in one oracle:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wn6fIv-qw6B6cX1PEg0ikQvjQ-idCOEa/view?usp=sharing

Do you know what is this sample? PunnW_X_PunnW
Someone asked me.

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 03:41 PM
Do you know what is this sample? PunnW_X_PunnW
Someone asked me.

no idea. feel free to delete any suspicious ones

i mass gathered the samples from forum threads and from Thracian's spreadsheet, i'm sure some non-ancient samples ended up in there

Dunai
12-28-2019, 04:44 PM
Based on Ancient K13, I seem to have continuity to the Carpathian Basin and East-Central Europe back into ancient times, with plenty Scythian, Early Western Slavic and Early North German.

Target: Dunai
Distance: 1.1242% / 1.12423998 | ADC: 0.25x
31.0 sz22_Longobard
22.4 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
21.6 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
11.2 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
7.4 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
6.0 GM_DJUL
0.4 TrkO_TrkO

Target: Dunai
Distance: 2.0463% / 2.04631848 | ADC: 0.5x
34.8 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
31.8 sz22_Longobard
21.2 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
6.4 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
5.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc

Yinwang888
12-28-2019, 05:04 PM
What about the database for searching for relatives? Is that also available?

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 05:14 PM
idk if im doing this correctly hahaha got this for my first try


7.97683521 Moldavian
9.66920369 Serbian
9.80555455 Romanian
10.57676226 Bulgarian
11.73867113 Croatian
14.35669530 Hungarian
17.44416521 Ukrainian_Lviv
18.77801374 Ukrainian
18.81477611 South_Polish
19.12249722 Austrian
20.27831847 East_German
20.38977440 Greek_Thessaly
20.53827890 Tatar
20.91016738 Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.06119180 Southwest_Russian
22.58999336 Polish
23.94833815 Russian_Smolensk
24.76678825 Estonian_Polish
25.19125840 Kargopol_Russian
25.51798385 Belorussian
25.56868788 Erzya
25.91598156 West_German
26.79685989 North_Italian
27.20526236 Tuscan
27.38053871 Italian_Abruzzo

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 05:17 PM
idk what this is im so confused hahaha

40.2 Bulgarian
37.0 Southwest_Russian
11.8 Abhkasian
6.6 Erzya
4.4 Sardinian

Impaler
12-28-2019, 05:22 PM
Distance to: Impaler
9.98849839 SZ1_SZ1
12.42082123 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.17951061 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.28253741 Halton
13.70421833 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.97561448 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
14.66568444 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
16.02527067 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
16.09299848 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
16.24785524 XyH3_XyH3
17.34907202 I7424_morisco2
17.50980297 col001_col001
17.83131515 sz40_szo034_Longobard
18.13852254 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
18.45996750 I7424_morisco
19.03185750 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
19.96860786 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
20.58442858 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
20.66114469 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
21.13431806 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
21.44766654 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
21.64137704 I12647_iberia2
21.72353332 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
21.85241634 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
22.39129295 col006_col006


Target: Impaler
Distance: 0.7829% / 0.78287733
21.2 I8215_iberia
18.4 KO1_Tiszaszolos_Domahaza_Hungary_5650_5780_cal_BC
17.6 i1662_iranchl
14.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
10.4 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
5.0 Yak_Bab_Yak_Bab
4.0 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2
2.0 Motala_1_ostergotland_Sweden_7_000_years_F_U5a1
1.8 I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10_16CE
1.6 Ulchi-Nizhniy_Gavan_Ulchi-Nizhniy_Gavan
1.4 Kajan
0.6 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
0.6 Yoruba00920_Africa
0.4 Mos4_Devil_s_Gate
0.2 DA43_XiongNu_160_130_BC


Target: Impaler
Distance: 3.5583% / 3.55834294 | ADC: 0.25x
32.4 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
28.0 SZ1_SZ1
19.0 XyH3_XyH3
6.2 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
5.6 Yak_Bab_Yak_Bab
3.2 Kivutkalns209_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a
3.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
2.2 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
0.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733


Target: Impaler
Distance: 5.7198% / 5.71984962 | ADC: 0.5x
52.4 SZ1_SZ1
24.0 XyH3_XyH3
13.0 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
5.0 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
3.0 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
2.6 Yak_Bab_Yak_Bab

Moje ime
12-28-2019, 05:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/2C8ZIEs.png

https://i.imgur.com/rz3AcCP.png

Target: MI
Distance: 0.1055% / 0.10550695
10.2 I8215_iberia
9.0 Spiginas1_Lithuania_4440_4240y_old
7.0 Loschbour_Loschbour._Luxembourg_6000_BC
6.6 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
5.8 I0017Motala12
4.8 Kura_Araxes
4.6 I2158_Late_Upper_Paleolithic_Sicilian_hunter_gathe rer
4.4 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
4.2 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
3.2 Donkalnis6_Lithuania_4720_4530_y_old
2.8 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
2.4 RISE145_Wielkopolska_Unetice
2.2 Kivutkalns164_Ancient_Inflanty
2.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
2.0 Anatolian_EF_I0709
2.0 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
1.6 I3809_SE_Iberia_c.10_16CE
1.6 NE1_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_Hungary_5070_5310_cal_BC_F_ U5b2c
1.4 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
1.4 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0
1.4 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
1.4 ZVEJ31_Latvia_MN2_6179_5750_BC4229_3800_cal_BC
1.2 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
1.2 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
1.0 I12516_iberia
1.0 KO1_Tiszaszolos_Domahaza_Hungary_5650_5780_cal_BC
0.8 I0124_Samara_EHG
0.8 I1507_KO1_HungaryWHG
0.8 Sope_r_Jabara_Estonia_Corded_Ware_culture_4575_435 0_F_H5a1
0.8 mur004_srubno_alakulskaya_1888_1697bce
0.6 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
0.6 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
0.6 I0054_LBK
0.6 I0164_Unetice
0.6 MUR003_MUR003_SRUBNO-ALAKULSKAYA_1880-1688BCE
0.6 RISE00_Sope_Estonia_2000_years_F_H5a1
0.6 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2
0.6 VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2
0.4 Andronovo_RISE503_Russia_174601298_BC
0.4 I0122_Khvalynsk
0.4 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
0.4 North_Norwegian_Hunter0Gatherer0STG001_Steigen._No rway_400003800_BC
0.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730
0.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
0.4 Sven(566)_Sven(566)_M
0.4 copt315_copt315
0.4 kzb003_srubno_alakulskaya_1773_1627BCE_M_R1a_R_Z94 _H
0.2 Bichon_Switzerland_11000_y_old_2
0.2 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
0.2 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
0.2 MK5009_Marinskaya_5_N_Caucasus_4710_R1b1a2_R1a1a
0.2 RISE548_Temrta_IV_Russia_2000_years_M_R_L23_U4
0.2 RISE550_PeshanyV_Russia_4312_years_M_R_M520_U5a1
0.2 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
0.2 kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce
0.2 stg026_Sigtuna

bained
12-28-2019, 05:29 PM
8.15038036 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
8.29175494 SZ1_SZ1
9.56970741 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
9.59515503 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
10.26781866 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
11.49759540 Halton
13.00016154 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
13.05720874 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
13.10405281 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.03011976 I7424_morisco

Distance: 2.0487% / 2.04874413 | ADC: 0.25x
75.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
7.8 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
7.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
4.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
3.6 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
1.6 Kivutkalns164_Ancient_Inflanty
0.4 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC

Distance: 3.9669% / 3.96686812 | ADC: 0.5x
61.0 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
18.6 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
9.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.2 SZ1_SZ1
2.6 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
0.4 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733

Thanks for the wewuz

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 05:31 PM
Distance to: sgg_k13
3.57921779 I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker
6.30505353 I6581_Silesia_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
8.06529603 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
8.67092267 I8203_iberia
8.84352871 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
10.68573348 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
11.24001779 I3758_Celtiberian_U
11.35066958 I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U
11.46968613 I3759_Celtiberian_I3759_Celtiberian_m
12.45940207 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
12.99030408 RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years_CT_CTS4650_J1
13.05082756 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
13.33657377 I4251_Malopolska_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
13.53792820 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary_CT_M5751_H2a1
13.85421957 I12649_low_quality
13.92307437 col001_col001
14.10357047 UneticeBellBeaker_RISE577_Poland_250001900_BC
14.82741717 I8206_iberia
15.10987756 N42_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG
15.23828731 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
15.33580125 I8474_iberia
15.35922199 IA_Ardea_R851
15.82916928 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
16.10278858 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0
16.18401990 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce

Target: sgg_k13
Distance: 1.6480% / 1.64800435 | ADC: 0.25x
70.8 I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker
11.0 N42_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG
8.0 RISE483_Erd_4_Hungary_CT_M5751_H2a1
5.4 RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years_CT_CTS4650_J1
2.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
2.0 V2_Vratitsa_Bulgaria_1500_1100_BC_M_U2e1_2_3

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 05:32 PM
qoute

again no slavic for you :D
try the 2way oracle

Moje ime
12-28-2019, 05:34 PM
again no slavic for you :D
try the 2way oracle

Isn't Hungary_Scythian mixed Slavic Celto Germanic component?

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 05:42 PM
15.32427160 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
16.24876611 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
16.64084733 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
17.86225910 XyH3_XyH3
20.08448655 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
20.12152579 SZ1_SZ1
20.26737773 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
21.38268692 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
21.39212238 GM_DJUL
21.49130057 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC
22.16383766 Halton
22.26415505 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
22.70071365 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
22.82150521 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
22.96032230 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
23.62038315 IR1_Ludas_Varju_dulo_Hungary_830_980_cal_BC_M_N_M2 31_G2a1
23.64824941 K2_52_vengr_lider
24.03340384 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
24.32714739 sz22_Longobard
24.42493193 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD
24.61952274 Tem001_Ancient_Sarmatian
24.88458559 N17_Ancient_Kujawy_Iwno_Culture_R1a_r1a
24.89310547 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
24.90940585 Cim357_Ancient_Kimmerian_R1b_R1b
24.99424134 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century


rlly tired of getting moldavian tbh lol

Dušan
12-28-2019, 05:42 PM
Isn't Hungary_Scythian mixed Slavic Celto Germanic component?

I would say it is 60% paleo-Balkan + 40% Slav

https://i.imgur.com/zB2rHsF.jpg

Dick
12-28-2019, 05:43 PM
Distance to: Dick-dad
9.29256692 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
14.39446769 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
14.40282264 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
15.08934061 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
16.43724429 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
16.47041287 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
17.08196417 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
17.63839278 SZ1_SZ1
18.15082367 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
18.16420656 Halton
18.70951630 XyH3_XyH3
18.72940736 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
18.80356083 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
19.14682480 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
20.18687693 sz22_Longobard
20.84173217 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
20.85786422 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
20.93965855 I1502_BR1
21.08535748 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
21.17542916 scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce
21.45600615 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
21.66856248 col001_col001
21.91352550 I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker
21.94423387 I4251_Malopolska_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
22.01265999 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD


Distance to: Dick
15.20375611 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
18.12545999 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
19.40629022 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
19.47973049 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
19.79018191 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
20.30014532 SZ1_SZ1
20.77421238 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
21.82887537 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
22.18326847 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
22.27347301 XyH3_XyH3
22.31557528 I7426_iberia
22.35099774 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
22.65316976 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
23.42944728 Halton
23.43193547 GM_DJUL
23.54340460 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC
23.57769709 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
24.47593921 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD
24.49041037 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
24.57705434 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
24.84963380 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
25.24547286 I1502_BR1
25.44899802 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
25.61099373 scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce
26.07596403 DA29_European_in_Kazakhstan_1300_AD_700

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 05:44 PM
Isn't Hungary_Scythian mixed Slavic Celto Germanic component?

yeah, kind of like modern Hungarians. but it's some Corded Ware influence, distantly related to Slavs

Dušan
12-28-2019, 05:46 PM
yeah, kind of like modern Hungarians. but it's some Corded Ware influence, distantly related to Slavs

It is not close to modern Hungarians.
At least according to K13.

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 05:48 PM
Distance: 0.2400% / 0.23997508
13.6 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
10.8 Kura_Araxes
9.6 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
8.6 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
7.4 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old
6.6 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
5.6 JK1968_Levaluhta
5.2 I0054_LBK
3.6 Motala012_Östergötland._Sweden_5000_BC
3.2 SA6003_ANCIENT_Sharakhalsun6_Catacomb_culture_4292
3.0 kal006_Sigtuna_10_12_century
2.6 CO1_Apc_Berekalja_I_Hungary_2700_2900_cal_BC
2.6 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1
2.4 I0124_Samara_EHG
2.4 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
1.8 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
1.6 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
1.4 North_Norwegian_Hunter0Gatherer0STG001_Steigen._No rway_400003800_BC
1.4 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
1.0 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
1.0 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
1.0 kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce
0.8 HGDP00945_Yakut_Male_HGDP00945
0.4 Glz_Bai_Glz_Bai
0.4 VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2
0.2 Andronovo_RISE503_Russia_174601298_BC
0.2 I2477_Beaker_No_Steppe_Italy_4kya
0.2 KO1_Tiszaszolos_Domahaza_Hungary_5650_5780_cal_BC
0.2 MK3003_Marinskaya_3_Catacomb_4476_U4a2
0.2 RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_2000_years_M_I_L1228_T2b
0.2 RISE548_Temrta_IV_Russia_2000_years_M_R_L23_U4
0.2 RISE550_PeshanyV_Russia_4312_years_M_R_M520_U5a1
0.2 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2
0.2 RK4002_Rasshevatskiy_4_4610_R1b1_U4d3
0.2 ZVEJ31_Latvia_MN2_6179_5750_BC4229_3800_cal_BC

Carpatz
12-28-2019, 05:50 PM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/660554517502492683/unknown.png
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/445888351053283329/660554872558583829/unknown.png

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 05:51 PM
It is not close to modern Hungarians.
At least according to K13.

one Hungarian Scythian sample was like a modern Hungarian, i guess it was another one.
this one is a pseudo South Slav, so South Slavs should try modelling without it

also this is just the beta version of the k13 ancient oracle, 100s of new samples will be added in the following days

Dick
12-28-2019, 05:53 PM
one Hungarian Scythian sample was like a modern Hungarian, i guess it was another one.
this one is a pseudo South Slav, so South Slavs should try modelling without it

I think it's the outlier

Moje ime
12-28-2019, 05:56 PM
yeah, kind of like modern Hungarians. but it's some Corded Ware influence, distantly related to Slavs

But it's no surprise. In MyTrueAncestry I have Gauls as first match.

Ford
12-28-2019, 05:59 PM
Without the 195 Hungarian Scythian sample I get a slightly better fit

Target: Ford
Distance: 1.7658% / 1.76577184 | ADC: 0.25x
33.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
26.8 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
22.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
13.4 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
3.4 SZ1_SZ1

WeirdLookingFellow
12-28-2019, 06:00 PM
Hello, fellow Scythians.


Distance to: Fellow
4.40285135 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
12.08553681 SZ1_SZ1
12.63951344 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
12.82664804 Halton
12.91634623 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
14.37973922 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
14.80146277 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
15.18022068 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
15.34946253 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
15.75336155 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce

Distance to: FellowGF
8.52195400 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
13.28682806 SZ1_SZ1
14.66846959 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.05933597 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
15.90149993 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
16.45845983 Halton
16.73367563 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
16.76727766 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
17.49465347 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
18.00496598 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74

Without the DA195


Target: FellowGF
Distance: 2.2142% / 2.21420240 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
18.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
18.6 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
4.4 SZ1_SZ1
3.0 XyH3_XyH3
0.4 K2_52_vengr_lider

Target: Fellow
Distance: 2.3794% / 2.37943519 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
28.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
23.6 SZ1_SZ1
5.8 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century

Dušan
12-28-2019, 06:02 PM
one Hungarian Scythian sample was like a modern Hungarian, i guess it was another one.
this one is a pseudo South Slav, so South Slavs should try modelling without it


If I exclude that sample, I got this:

https://i.imgur.com/aYDFDsw.jpg








.

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 06:03 PM
19.02820801 Bavaria_STR310
20.30412027 Sunghir6
21.90382158 MedievalHungarian_DA199
21.98236111 Scythian_I0247
22.94500599 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
23.07837299 BR2_Hungary
23.56990454 Scythian_SCY311
23.65171030 Srubnaya_I0232
23.67258119 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
24.29578564 Andronovo_RISE505
24.36381128 HallstattCelt_DA112
24.41404923 EarlyBA_PL_N17
24.65777159 Ostuni1
24.80047177 EarlyCzechSlav_RISE569
25.35840689 Tagar_DA2
25.79716651 TianShanHun_DA81
25.80861872 BeakerBritain_I2443
26.00677989 Andronovo_DA231
26.25224181 Kipchak_DA179
26.34672845 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
26.74383667 Andronovo_RISE500
26.87211938 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
26.95471202 BronzAgeBalkan
27.07037310 BronzAgeBulgarian
27.90608177 ArmeniaCA_I1631




Distance: 1.8126% / 1.81264331
49.8 Sunghir6
21.0 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
19.0 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1662
3.0 KurdistanChalcolithic_I1674
3.0 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
2.0 ChalcolithicIranian
1.2 GoldenHorde_DA28
0.6 Kotias
0.4 Minoan_Lasithi_I0073

bained
12-28-2019, 06:05 PM
Without DA195

Distance: 2.2469% / 2.24688061 | ADC: 0.25x
64.6 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
16.0 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
6.2 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
5.4 Kivutkalns164_Ancient_Inflanty
4.0 I0124_Samara_EHG
3.8 SZ1_SZ1

Dušan
12-28-2019, 06:06 PM
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian

https://i.imgur.com/5vfuxWC.jpg

Elias.99
12-28-2019, 06:07 PM
Eurogenes K13 Ancient

13.04088571 IA_Ardea_R850
13.92007184 col003_col003
14.69058542 col002_col002
15.25855170 col006_col006
17.26658912 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
19.49503783 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
19.83362549 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
19.86086856 I3808_iberia
20.51137246 sz40_szo034_Longobard
21.04110026 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730
21.33936972 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
21.80782428 i1632_areni_merged
22.41979706 I8215_3iberia
22.43195934 I8215_2iberia
23.71474014 I8215_iberia
23.78821977 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
24.44911246 Sidon_BA_ERS1790731
24.63361118 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
24.63361118 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
25.01419597 Tep002_Tepecik_Ciftlik_level_5_c_6500_BCE_8500_BP
25.01419597 Tepecik002_Tepecik002
25.26567830 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)
26.09745773 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
26.46816390 I7424_morisco2
26.53909757 col004_col004

Moje ime
12-28-2019, 06:14 PM
Without DA195 Hungary Scythian

https://i.imgur.com/77MNRAf.png

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 06:18 PM
If I exclude that sample, I got this:
https://i.imgur.com/aYDFDsw.jpg



Without DA195 Hungary Scythian

https://i.imgur.com/77MNRAf.png

There are no Illyrians and Thracians in the sheet yet, the models will improve when they are added

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 06:19 PM
7.07590277 Romania_Ne
7.63200498 Bosniak
8.08784124 Bosnian
8.75019428 Moldavian
9.23662276 Romanian
9.35236868 Romania_Nw
9.54390381 Romania_Sw
9.57524771 Serbian_Bosnia
9.90839543 South_Serbian
10.21572807 Romania_South
10.68728312 Montenegrin
10.70971445 Macedonian
10.72347425 Bulgarian
10.98563039 Szekely
11.19829005 Serbian
11.26564246 Croatian
12.18654996 Gagauz
12.41721386 Romania_Se
12.94260358 Croat_Bosnia
12.96697254 Slovenian
13.92407268 Hungarian
14.09843608 Kaykavian_Croatian
14.49824472 Macedonian_2
15.00257311 Austrian
15.31958556 Slovak




36.8 Latvian
15.2 Italy_Trentino
14.4 Turkish_Trabzon
13.0 Bosniak
5.6 Abhkasian
5.0 North_Ossetian
4.4 Lithuanian
3.4 Sardinian
1.6 Albanian-North
0.6 Evens

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 07:02 PM
8.75019428 Moldavian
9.23662276 Romanian
10.76306648 Bulgarian
11.19829005 Serbian
11.26564246 Croatian
13.92407268 Hungarian
15.00257311 Austrian
16.21922933 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.88334979 South_Polish
17.53288909 Ukrainian
18.21651723 Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.21649552 Russian_Smolensk
19.35829021 Southwest_Russian
19.36668531 East_German
19.77231398 Greek_Thessaly
20.16327354 Polish
20.33354126 Greek
21.64501097 Tatar
21.98394869 Belorussian
22.40057812 Estonian_Polish
23.12179491 Kargopol_Russian
24.31330294 Erzya
24.74454889 Finnish
24.85048088 East_Finnish
25.06382652 Southwest_Finnish




Distance: 2.0812% / 2.08120514
31.2 Lithuanian
22.4 Greek
16.2 Abhkasian
16.0 Ukrainian
8.6 Bulgarian
2.0 West_Norwegian
1.6 Estonian
1.4 Sardinian
0.6 Evens

Cumansky
12-28-2019, 07:03 PM
0x K13 Ancient

Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 0.1875% / 0.18751248
12.6 Spiginas1_Lithuania_4440_4240y_old
10.8 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
8.6 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
7.2 I0124_Samara_EHG
5.8 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
5.8 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
5.0 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old
5.0 ZVEJ31_Latvia_MN2_6179_5750_BC4229_3800_cal_BC
4.8 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
4.4 I1378_Mesolithic_Ukraine_6kya
3.8 Loschbour_Loschbour._Luxembourg_6000_BC
3.2 Motala012_Östergötland._Sweden_5000_BC
2.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
2.8 North_Norwegian_Hunter0Gatherer0STG001_Steigen._No rway_400003800_BC
2.2 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
2.0 Donkalnis6_Lithuania_4720_4530_y_old
1.8 I0054_LBK
1.4 Kura_Araxes
1.2 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
1.2 JK1968_Levaluhta
0.8 Donkalnis7_Lithuania_5460_4940_y_old
0.8 I1507_KO1_HungaryWHG
0.8 Kivutkalns164_Ancient_Inflanty
0.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
0.8 RISE497_Arban_1_Russia_2000_years_F_P142_A2f2
0.6 I0017Motala12
0.6 K2_52_vengr_lider
0.6 Mos4_Devil_s_Gate
0.6 Motala_1_ostergotland_Sweden_7_000_years_F_U5a1
0.2 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
0.2 I0061_OleniyOstrov
0.2 Be11_Berel_Kazakhstan_Pazyryk_4_3_century_BCE
0.2 DA43_XiongNu_160_130_BC
0.2 Han00774_China
0.2 LateNeolithicBronzeAgeLaos_LA364_11210930_BC

Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 0.6145% / 0.61453948
27.8 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
27.4 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old
23.2 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
8.2 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
5.0 JK1968_Levaluhta
2.0 Biaka00448_Africa
1.4 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
1.2 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
1.2 Yoruba00920_Africa
0.8 Mbuti00449_Africa
0.6 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
0.6 copt315_copt315
0.6 HGDP00945_Yakut_Male_HGDP00945

Dick
12-28-2019, 07:16 PM
MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian

https://i.imgur.com/5vfuxWC.jpg

Thraco Cimmerian looks slavicized

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 07:24 PM
Try with ADC.


BTW I added this too:


add these:

0LS03_lowquality,30.15,49.16,5.06,1.1,0.62,2.45,2. 84,1.97,4.41,0,0,0,2.23
CL102_collegno_italy_longobard,43.27,20.57,18.96,6 .3,7.11,2.09,0,1.2,0.49,0,0,0,0
CL110_collegno_italy_longobard,20.25,4.24,33.01,21 .53,9.49,0,0,0,0.14,3.85,0.82,0,6.68
CL121_collegno_italy_longobard,26.63,4.66,21.87,15 .24,25.78,4.16,0,0,0,0,0.91,0,0.67
CL145_collegno_italy_longobard,53.01,27.98,7.21,5. 65,0.79,1.05,2.78,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0
CL146_collegno_italy_longobard,54.56,25.16,9.41,4. 77,1.52,0.92,1.25,0,0.63,0.55,0.4,0.83,0
CL151_collegno_italy_longobard,55.73,27.25,6.83,4. 75,0,2.45,1.17,0,0,0.6,1.22,0,0
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard,34.1,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard,34.1,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0
CL25_collegno_italy_longobard,11.26,2.52,25.12,19. 43,32.95,5.15,1.74,0,0,0,1.28,0.41,0.13
CL25_collegno_italy_longobard,11.26,2.52,25.12,19. 43,32.95,5.15,1.74,0,0,0,1.28,0.41,0.13
CL30_collegno_italy_longobard,13.96,3.06,21.79,20. 09,31.88,8.58,0,0.3,0,0,0.33,0,0
CL31_collegno_italy_longobard,16.12,6.08,18.2,9.24 ,21.6,3.61,1.82,15.49,4.69,0.35,0.5,2.31,0
CL36_collegno_italy_longobard,30.28,11.03,22.92,11 .27,18.52,2.83,0,0,0,1.93,0,0,1.22
CL38_collegno_italy_longobard,17.03,1.66,19.44,20. 33,31.48,6.62,0,1.01,0,0.82,0,0.96,0.66
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard,39.3,17.55,18.93,6.5 ,13.34,2.4,0,0,1.59,0,0.26,0.12,0
CL49_collegno_italy_longobard,35.33,19,19.09,7.59, 16.78,0,0.1,0,0,0,0.27,1.81,0
CL53_collegno_italy_longobard,36.75,20.79,16.96,11 .43,11.09,0,2.21,0,0,0,0.77,0,0
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard,38.49,16.79,19.57,8. 69,12.69,1.15,0,0,0.82,0.85,0.26,0.32,0.38
CL63_collegno_italy_longobard,38.73,22.3,15.96,8.5 6,12.96,0,0,0.8,0,0.13,0.29,0,0.24
CL83_collegno_italy_longobard,50.79,24.89,12.46,6. 2,0.71,2.68,0,1.18,0.2,0.26,0,0.63,0
CL84_collegno_italy_longobard,51.4,26.75,12.42,4.2 7,1.3,1.75,0,0.85,0.83,0,0,0.44,0
CL87_collegno_italy_longobard,48.19,22.34,15.47,5. 32,3.89,2.63,0.53,0,0,0.79,0.09,0.66,0.09
CL92_collegno_italy_longobard,48.87,28.93,9.99,6.3 6,2.26,0,0,0.5,1.89,0,0.45,0.76,0
CL93_collegno_italy_longobard,49.96,27.68,9.25,8.5 9,0,1.17,0,0,1.12,0.35,0.83,0.3,0.75
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard,36.49,13.74,26.38,6. 19,11.55,1.47,2.1,0,0.08,0.92,0,1.09,0
CL97_collegno_italy_longobard,49.61,22.78,7.63,9.6 3,1.83,1.33,0,2.64,0.5,2.45,1.58,0,0
Crusader SI39 Kingdom of Jerusalem,45.31,22.76,13.49,8.66,2.64,1.4,2.48,0,0 .88,0.51,0.55,0,1.32
Crusader SI40 Kingdom of Jerusalem,41.86,10.92,27.97,1.05,15.12,1.28,0,0.28 ,0.09,0.77,0.65,0,0
Crusader SI41 Kingdom of Jerusalem,31.41,4.77,23.95,3.96,21.98,7.03,0,0,0,0 .39,0.59,2.02,3.89
Crusader SI47 Kingdom of Jerusalem,40.19,23.36,21.76,8.7,0.79,1.27,0,0,1.26 ,1.09,0,1.58,0
Crusader SI53 Kingdom of Jerusalem,20.57,9.63,17.03,19.69,27.77,2.54,2.24,0 ,0,0,0.53,0,0
IIf_lowquality,34.49,48.38,5.32,3.84,2.16,0,0,0,1. 74,1.14,1.28,0,1.65
IIIt_lowquality,25.53,57.94,8.51,2.57,0,0,0,3.69,0 .95,0.81,0,0,0
ILS01_lowquality,30.65,50.02,6.09,3.01,0,1.73,2,2. 51,0,2.18,0,0,1.81
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.28,15.21,17.88, 9.7,21.47,2.1,0.08,1.97,4.1,0.63,0.82,0.76,0
SZ11.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.42,26.66,12.81 ,12.63,0,0,0,0.41,0.49,0.59,0.71,0,0.26
SZ12_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.73,26.41,10.93,7. 23,5.09,0,0.97,0,0,0.9,1.74,0,0
SZ13_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.11,28.09,8.41,6.5 5,0,1.9,0.39,0,0,1.59,0.67,0.26,0
SZ14_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.48,21.88,12.89,11 .29,1.87,1.63,0,0,0,0.75,0.4,0,1.81
SZ15.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.73,25.21,10.82 ,7.99,0.51,1.04,2.62,1.37,0.71,0,0,0,0
SZ16_szolad_hungary_longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.4 5,0,0,1.44,0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0,0.2
SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard,36.42,21.45,16.35,8. 04,13.65,1.21,0,0,0.7,0.73,0.32,0,1.12
SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.74,4.12,29.7,6.95 ,30.1,2.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
SZ2.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.87,32.51,5.75,5 .47,0.08,0,0,0,0.32,0.35,0.88,1.34,0.42
SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard,15.89,33.79,0,5.69,3 4.99,0,4.56,0,0,0,5.08,0,0
SZ22_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.64,28.46,10.25,7. 39,1.26,0.36,1.8,0,0,0.17,2.66,0,0
SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.94,24.08,16.69,9. 09,4.75,1.76,0,0,0.76,0.47,1.46,0,0
SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard,44.94,24.23,12.95,4. 79,7.41,1.71,1.38,0.24,0,1.43,0.91,0,0
SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.49,28.04,8.22,10. 81,5.23,0.41,1.13,1.42,2.74,0,0.64,0.87,0
SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.42,16.52,16.3,10. 99,15.56,1.7,0.68,0.23,0,1.52,0,0.15,0.94
SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard,29.07,15.57,29.72,6. 14,16.11,2.07,0.39,0,0,0.76,0.13,0,0
SZ3.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.56,20.77,16.79, 1.48,11.28,0,2,0,0,1.53,0.59,0,0
SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.84,22.95,10.17,6. 85,5.09,0.37,2.13,0.89,0,0.77,0.3,0,0.65
SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard,24.3,7.09,13.86,12.1 8,38.4,0,0,2.6,0.76,0,0.49,0.32,0
SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.09,12.49,26.86,10 .42,20.05,3.33,0,0,0,0,0.09,1.65,0
SZ35_szolad_hungary_longobard,0,11,17.86,4.74,27.6 4,23.64,0,0,0,6.77,8.35,0,0
SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,27.92,12.58,21.19 ,10.42,21.76,4.42,0.26,0.37,0.17,0,0.48,0,0.42
SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.58,11.75,22.62,11 .18,21.88,1.16,1.93,0,1.4,0.57,0.92,0,0
SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.06,23.69,11.97,5. 26,9.88,0.41,0,0,0,1.4,0.66,0.67,0
SZ4.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.37,27.71,9.19,6 .95,0.33,0.63,1.88,0,1.31,0,0.64,0,0
SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard,21.34,7.68,22.41,12. 19,31.43,3.65,0,0.44,0,0.24,0,0,0.61
SZ41_szolad_hungary_longobard,50.31,30.99,10.56,2. 94,0,0,0,0,2.24,0.35,1.04,0,1.57
SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard,42.34,27.34,10.82,8. 77,7.72,0.96,0,0,0,0.98,1.07,0,0
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,31.04,10.75,24.23 ,8.89,21.65,1.59,0.31,0,0,0.71,0.84,0,0
SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,34.13,20.89,19.13 ,6.89,13,2.16,0,1.44,0,0,0.88,0.5,0.98
SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.7,26.59,15.63,6 .42,11.21,0.55,0.84,0,0.12,1.79,0.96,0,0.19
SZ6_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.71,11.84,14.23,0,1 6.99,6.07,0,0,0,0.66,3.49,0,0
SZ7_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.09,27.99,10.22,5.5 5,1.41,1.83,1.34,0,0.72,1.07,0.56,0,0.21
SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.33,20.12,12.34,4.6 1,9.75,0.53,0.61,0,0,0.91,0.87,0.93,0
SZ9_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.74,28.2,10.03,3.34 ,1,0.69,4.34,0,0.4,0.26,0,0,0
VIII7_lowquality,32.01,49.99,9.21,2.5,0,0,2.93,0,0 ,0.42,0.34,2.58,0
VIII8_lowquality,24.94,55.73,3.57,0,10.43,0.45,0,0 ,0,0,3.87,0,1

vbnetkhio
12-28-2019, 07:27 PM
Thraco Cimmerian looks slavicized

that's his Kimmerian part

Leto
12-28-2019, 07:29 PM
8.75019428 Moldavian
9.23662276 Romanian
10.76306648 Bulgarian
11.19829005 Serbian
11.26564246 Croatian
13.92407268 Hungarian
15.00257311 Austrian
16.21922933 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.88334979 South_Polish
17.53288909 Ukrainian
18.21651723 Ukrainian_Belgorod
19.21649552 Russian_Smolensk
19.35829021 Southwest_Russian
19.36668531 East_German
19.77231398 Greek_Thessaly
20.16327354 Polish
20.33354126 Greek
21.64501097 Tatar
21.98394869 Belorussian
22.40057812 Estonian_Polish
23.12179491 Kargopol_Russian
24.31330294 Erzya
24.74454889 Finnish
24.85048088 East_Finnish
25.06382652 Southwest_Finnish




Distance: 2.0812% / 2.08120514
31.2 Lithuanian
22.4 Greek
16.2 Abhkasian
16.0 Ukrainian
8.6 Bulgarian
2.0 West_Norwegian
1.6 Estonian
1.4 Sardinian
0.6 Evens
Do you use the converted data? If you have both the original and the converted kits, I can delete it from my account.

Pedro Ruben
12-28-2019, 07:34 PM
k13 Ancient
Target: Pedro
Distance: 1.3569% / 1.35690310 | ADC: 0.25x

65.4 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
10.6 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
7.6 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
5.6 I4252_Malopolska_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
5.4 I0462_beaker_iberia_I0462
3.8 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
1.6 Biaka00448_Africa

Distance to: Pedro

6.38276586 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
6.93900569 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
7.42918569 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1
8.26126504 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
8.40849570 I12516_iberia
9.35509487 I12644_Muslim_Iberian_1100_1300_CE2
9.47762629 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
10.03608988 col001_col001
10.48629105 I12647_iberia2
10.59953301 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
10.68457767 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
10.99104636 I12649_low_quality
11.01388215 I6581_Silesia_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
11.23772219 I12647_iberia
11.29222299 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
11.96246630 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
12.10434633 IA_Ardea_R851
12.21768800 I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker
12.62788581 I10865_iberia
12.92636066 I8203_iberia
13.02696434 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
13.16258333 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.45405143 Halton
13.64517497 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
13.69634988 I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U

Dick
12-28-2019, 07:39 PM
My distance is great :thumb001: :rolleyes:


Distance to: Dick
18.12545999 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
19.01838321 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
19.40629022 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
19.47973049 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
19.72276096 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
19.79018191 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
19.90655922 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
20.30014532 SZ1_SZ1
20.77421238 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
21.02313012 SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard
21.71375601 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
21.82887537 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
22.09582540 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
22.18326847 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
22.27347301 XyH3_XyH3
22.31557528 I7426_iberia
22.35099774 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
22.64032685 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
22.65316976 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
23.07678487 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
23.20824853 SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
23.42944728 Halton
23.43193547 GM_DJUL
23.54340460 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC
23.57769709 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century

Distance to: Dick-dad
11.51706994 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.52473660 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.05109248 SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.39446769 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
14.40282264 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
15.08934061 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
15.50642448 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
15.54954019 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
15.59040410 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
16.43724429 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
16.47041287 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
17.08196417 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
17.15739782 SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
17.15885194 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
17.63839278 SZ1_SZ1
18.15082367 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
18.16420656 Halton
18.70951630 XyH3_XyH3
18.72940736 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
18.80356083 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
19.11693229 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
19.14101878 CL47_collegno_italy_longobard
19.14682480 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
19.17047730 CL57_collegno_italy_longobard
19.53986438 SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard



Target: Dick
Distance: 2.1255% / 2.12545813 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
35.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.8 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.6 I7426_iberia
7.8 K2_52_vengr_lider

Target: Dick-dad
Distance: 1.2556% / 1.25558685 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
22.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.4 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
13.8 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
11.4 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
4.2 I7426_iberia

Dick
12-28-2019, 07:43 PM
Better with the Scythian outlier sample than without

IrisSelene
12-28-2019, 07:46 PM
Do you use the converted data? If you have both the original and the converted kits, I can delete it from my account.

im using the normal data rn, but i did save the converted one too, thanksss

Cumansky
12-28-2019, 09:18 PM
Sunghir is a distant Vlach that was kidnapped by the Khazars after fall of Khazar Empire in 10th Century AD, the Khazars had admixture that can be sometimes found in modern Slavs too because they used to live among Slavs in Eastern Europe. Maybe Croatians are Khazars and they migrated from Khazaria

"The Khazar alliance with the Byzantine empire began to collapse in the early 10th century. Byzantine and Khazar forces may have clashed in the Crimea, and by the 940s emperor Constantine VII Porphyrogenitus was speculating in De Administrando Imperio about ways in which the Khazars could be isolated and attacked."

Khazars - Wikipedia

Celestia
12-28-2019, 09:48 PM
Iberia closest distance? :eek:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94126&d=1577573309

Morena
12-28-2019, 09:54 PM
Iberia closest distance? :eek:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94126&d=1577573309

I get Wales and Swiss_German as 2 and 3 here:
https://i.imgur.com/yjUIKrM.png

https://i.imgur.com/SqLYA7U.png

oszkar07
12-28-2019, 09:59 PM
Ancient K13

Distance to: Oszkar
7.99280301 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
8.30319216 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
8.74030320 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
8.97552227 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
9.11989035 sz22_Longobard
9.71985597 RISE431_Wielkopolska_Proto_Unetice_R1a_R1a
9.89533223 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
11.05801971 SZ38_szo33_Longobard_F_HV0
11.41380305 Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790
11.73089511 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
12.69964173 I0116_Unetice
12.73808070 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years_M_R_M405_K1 b1a
12.85770586 el_Miron
12.86096031 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years_M_CT_CTS3662_ N
13.01461102 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
13.08312654 I4251_Malopolska_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b
13.39336403 scy009_scythian_Ukraine_768_431bce
13.65776702 Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_years_F_H2a2a1
14.07913705 I0112_BellBeaker
14.11057405 I8206_iberia
14.28287086 grt036_Sigtuna_10_12_century
14.67990804 I0099_HalberstadtLNBA
14.71239274 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2
15.29883656 RISE207_Angamollan_Sweden_3130_years_CT_CTS4650_J1
15.35346215 RISE392_Stepnoe_VII_Russia_3626_years_M_R_P233_J2b 1a2
15.86906109 I1502_BR1
15.95713947 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
15.98256863 Polish_Bell_Beaker_I4253_Samborzec._Poland_2571022 08_BC
16.08948104 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
16.11947270 I8212_NE_Iberia_Greek_(Empuries1)_500_350_BCE_R

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.7810% / 1.78099281 | ADC: 0.25x
39.4 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
28.4 sz22_Longobard
11.8 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
11.0 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
3.4 RISE496_Arban_1_Russia_3070_years_F_U5a1a2a
3.2 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
1.2 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
1.0 LevantBA_M291439
0.4 cim359_cimmerian_1008_838bce
0.2 DA92_M_R1b_M73

Celestia
12-28-2019, 10:12 PM
I get Wales and Swiss_German as 2 and 3 here:



So cool :) I need to go back and see what modern populations I get

Dick
12-28-2019, 11:10 PM
Target: Dick

Distance: 2.1255% / 2.12545813 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
35.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.8 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.6 I7426_iberia
7.8 K2_52_vengr_lider

Target: Dick-dad

Distance: 1.2556% / 1.25558685 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
22.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.4 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
13.8 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
11.4 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
4.2 I7426_iberia

Anyone know who this vengr lider is? I noticed that my father dosn't get it. Sounds like some evil villain

Kaspias
12-28-2019, 11:28 PM
Anyone know who this vengr lider is? I noticed that my father dosn't get it. Sounds like some evil villain

MJ6711604

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.52
2 Baltic 27.39
3 North_Atlantic 13.61
4 East_Med 12.46
5 West_Med 5.01
6 East_Asian 4.63
7 Sub-Saharan 2.18
8 Oceanian 1.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chechen 16.79
2 Tabassaran 17.3
3 Lezgin 17.41
4 Kumyk 17.89
5 Kabardin 18.42
6 Balkar 20.42
7 Adygei 20.5
8 North_Ossetian 21.13
9 Nogay 21.32
10 Ossetian 23.93
11 Bulgarian 24.72
12 Tadjik 24.76
13 Romanian 25.19
14 Moldavian 25.45
15 Turkmen 25.71
16 Serbian 26.5
17 Azeri 27.05
18 Tatar 27.29
19 Turkish 27.54
20 Afghan_Tadjik 27.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Chechen + 34.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.96
2 66.7% Chechen + 33.3% Southwest_Russian @ 6.17
3 59.8% North_Ossetian + 40.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.2
4 69.5% Chechen + 30.5% Belorussian @ 6.34
5 64.9% Lezgin + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.37
6 71.1% Chechen + 28.9% Lithuanian @ 6.37
7 55.8% Abhkasian + 44.2% Lithuanian @ 6.37
8 69.3% Chechen + 30.7% Estonian_Polish @ 6.41
9 60.6% Adygei + 39.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.43
10 65.5% North_Ossetian + 34.5% Lithuanian @ 6.44
11 68.5% Chechen + 31.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.47
12 66.2% Adygei + 33.8% Lithuanian @ 6.49
13 50.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.8% Abhkasian @ 6.53
14 66% Lezgin + 34% Southwest_Russian @ 6.56
15 63.8% North_Ossetian + 36.2% Belorussian @ 6.59
16 60.9% North_Ossetian + 39.1% Southwest_Russian @ 6.65
17 66.9% Chechen + 33.1% Ukrainian @ 6.72
18 62.7% North_Ossetian + 37.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.74
19 68.5% Lezgin + 31.5% Estonian_Polish @ 6.76
20 66% Lezgin + 34% Ukrainian @ 6.77

Dick
12-28-2019, 11:51 PM
MJ6711604

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 33.52
2 Baltic 27.39
3 North_Atlantic 13.61
4 East_Med 12.46
5 West_Med 5.01
6 East_Asian 4.63
7 Sub-Saharan 2.18
8 Oceanian 1.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chechen 16.79
2 Tabassaran 17.3
3 Lezgin 17.41
4 Kumyk 17.89
5 Kabardin 18.42
6 Balkar 20.42
7 Adygei 20.5
8 North_Ossetian 21.13
9 Nogay 21.32
10 Ossetian 23.93
11 Bulgarian 24.72
12 Tadjik 24.76
13 Romanian 25.19
14 Moldavian 25.45
15 Turkmen 25.71
16 Serbian 26.5
17 Azeri 27.05
18 Tatar 27.29
19 Turkish 27.54
20 Afghan_Tadjik 27.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 65.7% Chechen + 34.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.96
2 66.7% Chechen + 33.3% Southwest_Russian @ 6.17
3 59.8% North_Ossetian + 40.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.2
4 69.5% Chechen + 30.5% Belorussian @ 6.34
5 64.9% Lezgin + 35.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.37
6 71.1% Chechen + 28.9% Lithuanian @ 6.37
7 55.8% Abhkasian + 44.2% Lithuanian @ 6.37
8 69.3% Chechen + 30.7% Estonian_Polish @ 6.41
9 60.6% Adygei + 39.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 6.43
10 65.5% North_Ossetian + 34.5% Lithuanian @ 6.44
11 68.5% Chechen + 31.5% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.47
12 66.2% Adygei + 33.8% Lithuanian @ 6.49
13 50.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.8% Abhkasian @ 6.53
14 66% Lezgin + 34% Southwest_Russian @ 6.56
15 63.8% North_Ossetian + 36.2% Belorussian @ 6.59
16 60.9% North_Ossetian + 39.1% Southwest_Russian @ 6.65
17 66.9% Chechen + 33.1% Ukrainian @ 6.72
18 62.7% North_Ossetian + 37.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 6.74
19 68.5% Lezgin + 31.5% Estonian_Polish @ 6.76
20 66% Lezgin + 34% Ukrainian @ 6.77

Some Steppe monkey. You know where it was found?

"Russian and Ukrainian surname derived from the word vengr (венгр), which means "Hungarian", A Hun?

Ljubic
12-28-2019, 11:53 PM
The K13/K15 calculators are not being discussed anymore but id like to point out that my father should be removed as sample from the Croat morlach cluster because i have found out that his Grandpa is from Serbia thus he cant be considered a full Croat anymore. Cheers :D

Dick
12-28-2019, 11:59 PM
The K13/K15 calculators are not being discussed anymore but id like to point out that my father should be removed as sample from the Croat morlach cluster because i have found out that his Grandpa is from Serbia thus he cant be considered a full Croat anymore. Cheers :D

So that's why he looks like a Chad :cheers:

bained
12-29-2019, 05:03 AM
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-019-53105-5/MediaObjects/41598_2019_53105_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp

Perhaps this guy. The name fits.

Lucas
12-29-2019, 07:45 PM
Some good guy send me K13 Italian regional breakdown. Added already. Check it out.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

MagnusDark
12-29-2019, 08:26 PM
Target: MagnusDark
Distance: 2.3934% / 2.39344429 | ADC: 0.25x
58.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.4 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
10.8 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
6.2 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
3.4 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
3.0 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1
1.6 I7426_iberia
0.6 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
0.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC


Distance to: MagnusDark
6.13108473 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.09124218 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
11.92031459 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.09756587 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
12.38734435 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.47012430 SZ1_SZ1
12.67301858 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.10175179 sz40_szo034_Longobard
13.45763724 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
13.69533132 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
14.56002404 I7424_morisco
15.12855578 I7424_morisco2
15.42205239 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
16.01956304 I12647_iberia
16.18993206 I12647_iberia2
17.15523827 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
17.25837478 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
17.56597279 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
17.79868534 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
18.48402554 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)
18.67171390 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
18.69657455 col001_col001
18.72876931 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
19.11193344 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1
19.14757948 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9



Target: MagnusDark_Father
Distance: 2.6494% / 2.64939780 | ADC: 0.25x
63.0 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
17.6 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
12.2 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
4.8 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
1.8 i1184_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE_F_t1a
0.6 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc


Distance to: MagnusDark_Father
6.84805082 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
10.05356653 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
12.42734485 sz40_szo034_Longobard
12.59893249 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.21930028 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
13.31086774 SZ1_SZ1
13.38925689 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
14.50195159 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
14.96580436 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
15.21947765 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
15.66922142 I7424_morisco
16.01524586 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
16.30207349 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
16.31362008 I7424_morisco2
17.73106314 IA_Ardea_R850
17.87699080 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
18.13292585 I12647_iberia
18.16295405 I12647_iberia2
18.47996212 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
18.54971698 I3808_iberia
18.60099997 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)
18.68347933 I8215_3iberia
18.72505541 I8215_2iberia
18.84146226 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
18.94264765 col003_col003

IrisSelene
12-29-2019, 08:30 PM
Target: MagnusDark
Distance: 2.3934% / 2.39344429 | ADC: 0.25x
58.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
15.4 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
10.8 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
6.2 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
3.4 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
3.0 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1
1.6 I7426_iberia
0.6 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
0.2 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC


Distance to: MagnusDark
6.13108473 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
8.09124218 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
11.92031459 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.09756587 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
12.38734435 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
12.47012430 SZ1_SZ1
12.67301858 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.10175179 sz40_szo034_Longobard
13.45763724 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
13.69533132 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
14.56002404 I7424_morisco
15.12855578 I7424_morisco2
15.42205239 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
16.01956304 I12647_iberia
16.18993206 I12647_iberia2
17.15523827 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
17.25837478 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
17.56597279 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
17.79868534 I3808_morisco_I3808_morisco
18.48402554 I8146_Muslim_Iberian(Emirate_of_Granada)
18.67171390 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
18.69657455 col001_col001
18.72876931 I7499_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE2
19.11193344 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1
19.14757948 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9

which calculator is that??

MagnusDark
12-29-2019, 08:35 PM
which calculator is that??

K13 ancient

IrisSelene
12-29-2019, 08:43 PM
Distance to: IrisSelene
15.32427160 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
16.24876611 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
16.64084733 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
17.86225910 XyH3_XyH3
20.08448655 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
20.12152579 SZ1_SZ1
20.26737773 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
21.38268692 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
21.39212238 GM_DJUL
21.49130057 MJ13_West_Scythian_580_BC
22.26415505 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
22.70071365 BR1_Hungary_Mako_Culture_2100_BC_2100_BC
22.82150521 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
22.96032230 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
23.62038315 IR1_Ludas_Varju_dulo_Hungary_830_980_cal_BC_M_N_M2 31_G2a1
23.64824941 K2_52_vengr_lider
24.03340384 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
24.32714739 sz22_Longobard
24.42493193 AV2_Hungary_Szolad_540_640_AD
24.61952274 Tem001_Ancient_Sarmatian
24.88458559 N17_Ancient_Kujawy_Iwno_Culture_R1a_r1a
24.89310547 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
24.90940585 Cim357_Ancient_Kimmerian_R1b_R1b
24.99424134 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
25.31416402 Rise511_Afansievo



Target: IrisSelene
Distance: 0.2238% / 0.22376782
13.6 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
12.0 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
9.8 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
8.6 Kura_Araxes
6.4 kal006_Sigtuna_10_12_century
6.0 I0054_LBK
5.6 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old
5.4 JK1968_Levaluhta
4.4 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1
4.0 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
3.0 CO1_Apc_Berekalja_I_Hungary_2700_2900_cal_BC
2.6 North_Norwegian_Hunter0Gatherer0STG001_Steigen._No rway_400003800_BC
2.6 SA6003_ANCIENT_Sharakhalsun6_Catacomb_culture_4292
2.4 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
2.2 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
1.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
1.6 I0124_Samara_EHG
1.2 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
0.8 HGDP00945_Yakut_Male_HGDP00945
0.8 I0122_Khvalynsk
0.6 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
0.6 RISE00_Corded_Estonia_RISE00_Corded_Estonia
0.6 RISE479_Erd_4_Hungary_2000_years_M_I_L1228_T2b
0.6 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2
0.4 Glz_Bai_Glz_Bai
0.4 Motala012_Östergötland._Sweden_5000_BC
0.4 SIJ003_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_5174_U4c1
0.4 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
0.2 I2477_Beaker_No_Steppe_Italy_4kya
0.2 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
0.2 Unetice_I0047
0.2 VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2
0.2 ZO2002_Zolotarevka_2_Yamnaya_Caucasus_4850_U5a1
0.2 ZVEJ31_Latvia_MN2_6179_5750_BC4229_3800_cal_BC

17571imre
12-29-2019, 08:58 PM
https://imgur.com/a/rHmloCG

https://imgur.com/a/i5LHeCw

Dick
12-29-2019, 09:10 PM
https://media.springernature.com/full/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41598-019-53105-5/MediaObjects/41598_2019_53105_Fig1_HTML.png?as=webp

Perhaps this guy. The name fits.

Thank you. So the sample is a Magyar conqueror and the supposed gang leader :lol: Maybe my mother was right that she thinks her grandmother had Hungarian admixture or this is just a coincidence with the components.

Herr Galke
12-29-2019, 09:19 PM
I might be slightly retarded because I have no idea what any of this means. Read instructions and I am still confused on what I am putting in or what the end result is supposed to represent...

Halp please...

Saint-Glinglin
12-29-2019, 09:34 PM
Some good guy send me K13 Italian regional breakdown. Added already. Check it out.
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/k13-vahaduo.htm

Updated results:

Distance to: sgg_k13
6.74067504 AostaValley
7.78284010 Swiss_French
8.53050995 French
9.81144740 Swiss_German
10.31422804 Spanish_Cataluna
10.45094254 Southwest_French
11.15499888 Spanish_Cantabria
11.33192393 Spanish_Galicia
11.79777521 South_Dutch
11.97261458 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
11.98844027 Swiss-Italian
12.05032780 Portuguese
12.09105454 West_German
12.37876003 Trentino
12.66962115 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
12.97420518 Spanish_Valencia
12.99965384 Spanish_Extremadura
13.61645328 Spanish_Murcia
13.81227715 Spanish_Andalucia
13.93466541 Swiss_Italian
13.95985315 Piedmont
14.15281951 Veneto
14.63902319 Spanish_Aragon
14.91018109 Friuli-VG
15.18656972 German_West

Val d'Aoste now takes the lead

Target: sgg_k13
Distance: 3.5508% / 3.55081481 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Southwest_French
33.6 Swiss_French
12.6 Welsh
5.0 Kabardin
0.6 East_German
0.6 Ukrainian

IrisSelene
12-29-2019, 10:16 PM
I might be slightly retarded because I have no idea what any of this means. Read instructions and I am still confused on what I am putting in or what the end result is supposed to represent...

Halp please...

yeah same haha

oszkar07
12-29-2019, 11:36 PM
https://imgur.com/a/rHmloCG

https://imgur.com/a/i5LHeCw

Mine has some similarity to yours.

arget: Oszkar
Distance: 2.2935% / 2.29345399 | ADC: 0.5x
44.0 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
42.0 sz22_Longobard
12.2 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
1.0 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
0.8 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.8065% / 1.80649559 | ADC: 0.25x
39.0 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
29.0 sz22_Longobard
12.8 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
9.8 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
4.4 RISE496_Arban_1_Russia_3070_years_F_U5a1a2a
3.4 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
0.8 LevantBA_M291439
0.8 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2

JohnnyP
12-30-2019, 10:43 AM
K13 Ancient
94156

Kyp
12-30-2019, 11:33 AM
Ancient k13

Target: Kyp
Distance: 4.7763% / 4.77628833 | ADC: 0.5x
53.2 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
27.0 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
17.0 DA144_Ancient_Sarmatian_R1_R1
2.2 Crimean_Nogay
0.6 DA141_Ancient_Sarmatian_Q

Alexa
12-30-2019, 08:49 PM
Eurogenes K15 updated

Distance to: AlbanianAlex

4.82545335 Albanian-Kosovo
6.42063860 Albanian-North
6.43131402 Macedonian_2
7.60103356 Kosovo_Albanian
7.68925224 Italy_Emiliaromagna
7.87869913 Albanian-South
7.91767011 Greek_Thessaly
8.08820128 Italy_Friuli
8.18626899 Romania_South
8.40937572 Albanian-Macedonia
8.63692441 Montenegrin
8.76832367 Romania_Se
8.76946407 Italy_Veneto
8.79497735 Macedonian
8.81652426 Italy_Tuscany
9.12916206 Bulgarian
9.15691542 Gagauz
9.49324497 Italy_Liguria
9.55213065 South_Serbian
9.68556142 Romanian
9.71166309 Italy_Marche
9.77012794 Italy_Lazio
9.80051019 Romania_Sw
10.13957593 Tuscan
10.27214681 Italy_Trentino






Eurogenes k15 ancient



Distance to: AlbanianAlex

9.73071426 Bavaria_STR310
12.32759506 BronzeAgeDalmatian_I4332
12.38192231 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
13.41820405 EMBA_Croatia_I4331
14.61713036 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
15.00876744 MedievalHungarian_DA199
15.50751753 ScythianMoldova_SCY197
16.10137572 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
16.98090104 BronzAgeBalkan
17.11194612 Scythian_SCY311
17.15058891 Vucedol_I3499
17.84801390 IronAgeBalkan
19.06251033 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
19.06274639 IA_Ardea_R851
19.10599906 IA_Civitavecchia_R473
19.75468299 IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
19.93158799 BR2_Hungary
20.36742252 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
20.66281685 IA_Prenestina_Colombella_R435
21.09539523 NorthItalian_HGDP01171
21.52586584 IA_Civitavecchia_R475
23.16758511 ScythianMoldova_SCY300
23.84078019 Crimean_Goth_KER1
24.39653459 Mycenaean_I9041
25.25859458 HallstattCelt_DA112

Alexa
12-30-2019, 08:58 PM
K15 Original spreadsheet


Distance to: AlbanianAlex

11.15529022 Serbian
11.45214390 Romanian
13.60929829 Bulgarian
14.64006148 North_Italian
15.09309445 Moldavian
15.32069842 Spanish_Galicia
15.33356449 Hungarian
15.81684861 French
16.16571681 Austrian
16.49522961 Portuguese
16.84936201 Greek_Thessaly
16.97956124 Croatian
17.05521914 Tuscan
17.11310317 East_German
17.89038848 Spanish_Cataluna
18.01197657 Spanish_Extremadura
18.41755413 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
18.44622184 West_German
18.45903573 South_Dutch
19.38491166 Spanish_Murcia
19.80964664 Greek
20.62391330 Spanish_Andalucia
20.88569367 Spanish_Cantabria
21.21838354 Spanish_Valencia
21.54708333 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha

Alexa
12-30-2019, 09:23 PM
Eurogenes K13 Ancient

6.34944092 IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
6.42442215 SZ1_SZ1
7.02843510 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
7.67288081 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
8.12706589 sz31_szo029_Longobard_F_H74
9.56557892 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
9.92630848 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
10.02990030 DA195_Hungary_Scythian
11.84279950 I7424_morisco
11.90769499 I7424_morisco2
12.15691984 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
12.88316343 col001_col001
13.51357836 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
14.08306430 I12647_iberia2
14.35472396 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
14.43929015 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1 _2
14.47403537 sz40_szo034_Longobard
14.48025552 I12647_iberia
14.49625814 col018_col018_M_R1b-Z2123_T2b
14.52554302 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
15.22916938 IA_Civitavecchia_R474
15.42546596 I7498_Muslim_Iberian_1000_1100_CE_E1b1b1a1b1a_H3a1
17.21389265 I10865_iberia
17.50004000 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
17.67117710 IA_Civitavecchia_R473



K13 spreadsheet


4.12692230 Kosovo_Albanian
5.04282969 North_Macedonian
5.24348167 Albanian
7.55192029 Tuscany
7.57514356 Romagna
7.69986364 Greek_Thessaly
8.13564994 Emilia
8.41528966 Romanian_Muntenia
8.52317429 Bulgarian
8.52626530 Friuli-VG
8.93461438 Macedonian
8.97894203 Veneto
8.97976614 Liguria
9.11234876 Romanian_Oltenia
9.11947915 Tuscan
9.29385819 Umbria
9.51927518 Bosniak_Sandzak
9.57797473 Marche
9.60299172 GR_Peloponese
9.64700990 Lazio
9.85225862 Greek_Peloponnese
10.07649409 Montenegrin
10.45485533 Romanian_Transylvania
10.47228724 GR_Macedonia
10.67091374 Piedmont





Single



30.8 Albanian
19.0 Swiss_Italian
9.0 GR_Peloponese
6.2 Macedonian
6.0 Veneto
4.6 GR_Macedonia
3.2 Lombardy
2.8 North_Macedonian
2.6 Croat_Bosnia
2.4 Romanian_Muntenia
2.0 Bosnian
1.8 South_Polish
1.6 Greek_Cappadocian
1.6 Sardinia
1.4 Lebanese_Druze
1.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
0.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
0.6 Umbria
0.6 North-Dutch
0.6 Southeast_English
0.4 Austrian
0.4 Velamas
0.2 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
0.2 Romani
0.2 Sardinian

Alexa
12-30-2019, 09:27 PM
K13 Ancient single


5.8 NE1_Polgar_Ferenci_hat_Hungary_5070_5310_cal_BC_F_ U5b2c
5.4 I8215_iberia
4.4 Minoan_Minoan_Lasithi
4.2 I1661_IRAN_CHL_v2
4.2 kal006_Sigtuna_10_12_century
3.8 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
3.4 Anatolian_EF_I0709
3.2 I8215_2iberia
2.8 ScythianMoldova_SCY197_Moldova_288502632_BC
2.6 IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
2.4 I0054_LBK
2.4 KO1_Tiszaszolos_Domahaza_Hungary_5650_5780_cal_BC
2.2 SZ31_Longobard_M_T1a1a_PF5620_U4c2a_6-th_century
2.0 ChalcolithicIranian
2.0 SZ43_szo036_Longobard_M_i2a2-s391_H1e
1.8 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
1.8 I2158_Late_Upper_Paleolithic_Sicilian_hunter_gathe rer
1.8 Kretuonas2_Lithuania_5300_2900_y_old
1.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
1.8 Spiginas1_Lithuania_4440_4240y_old
1.6 Bar8_Anatolian_Neolithic_Barcin_6212_6030_BCE8222_ 8040_ybp
1.6 N36_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG
1.4 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
1.4 IA_Ardea_R851
1.4 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
1.2 Anatolian_EF_I0707
1.2 i1178_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE
1.2 Kura_Araxes
1.2 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
1.2 Sope_r_Jabara_Estonia_Corded_Ware_culture_4575_435 0_F_H5a1
1.0 col003_col003
1.0 RISE00_Corded_Estonia_RISE00_Corded_Estonia
1.0 stg026_Sigtuna
0.8 Bichon_Switzerland_11000_y_old_2
0.8 I1506_NE1_HungaryEN
0.8 IA_Prenestina_Selicata_R437
0.8 JK1968_Levaluhta
0.8 Kivutkalns209_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a
0.8 Loschbour_Loschbour._Luxembourg_6000_BC
0.8 RISE00_Sope_Estonia_2000_years_F_H5a1
0.6 Andronovo_RISE503_Russia_174601298_BC
0.6 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
0.6 DA171_Lithuania_ca_350_650_AD_N1c_350_650_AD_N1c
0.6 grt036_Sigtuna_10_12_century
0.6 I0116_Unetice
0.6 I8206_iberia
0.6 kal009_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_t2f1
0.6 Kivutkalns164_Ancient_Inflanty
0.6 scy303_scythian_Moldova_380_203bce
0.4 Andronovo_RISE500_Russia_174601298_BC
0.4 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
0.4 Donkalnis6_Lithuania_4720_4530_y_old
0.4 Donkalnis7_Lithuania_5460_4940_y_old
0.4 i1184_peqi_in_Israel_4500_3900_BCE_F_t1a
0.4 I1507_KO1_HungaryWHG
0.4 i1674_iranchl
0.4 I8215_3iberia
0.4 Kivutkalns19_Kivutkalns19_Latvia_730_400_y_old
0.4 kzb005_srubno_alakulskaya_1881_1692bce
0.4 kzb006_srubno_alakulskaya_1771_1626bce
0.4 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
0.4 Motala_1_ostergotland_Sweden_7_000_years_F_U5a1
0.4 N25_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG
0.4 RISE42_Marbjerg_Denmark_3681_years_M_CT_CTS2711_H2 c1
0.4 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_Brandysek_other_versi on_2000_years_H1af2
0.4 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
0.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
0.4 sz22_Longobard
0.4 sz40_szo034_Longobard
0.4 ZVEJ25_latvia_HG2_narva_7791_7586_BC5841_5636_calB C
0.2 australian
0.2 Bon002_Early_PPN_Central_Anatolia_Boncuklu_8279_79 77_BC
0.2 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
0.2 I0164_Unetice
0.2 I1665_IRAN_CHL_I1665
0.2 I2477_Beaker_No_Steppe_Italy_4kya
0.2 I3757_Celtiberian_I3757_Celtiberian_U
0.2 I3808_iberia
0.2 IA_Ardea_R850
0.2 jomon_Ikawazu
0.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
0.2 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2
0.2 RISE423_Armenian_MBA
0.2 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
0.2 RISE97_Fredriksberg_Sweden_3590_years_CT_Y1580_K2a 5
0.2 SA6003_ANCIENT_Sharakhalsun6_Catacomb_culture_4292
0.2 Sidon_BA_ERS1790730
0.2 SIJ002_Sinyukha_Late_Maykop_culture_5125_M_L_U4c1
0.2 Sven(566)_Sven(566)_M
0.2 SZ1_SZ1
0.2 TAT75_TAT75_F
0.2 Unetice_I0047



K13 updated

single


30.4 Albanian
14.8 Swiss_Italian
8.4 Lombardy
6.6 Veneto
6.4 GR_Macedonia
5.4 GR_Peloponese
4.6 Macedonian
4.2 North_Macedonian
2.6 Bosnian
2.4 Croat_Bosnia
2.4 Lebanese_Druze
2.4 Romanian_Muntenia
1.6 Greek_Cappadocian
1.2 South_Polish
0.8 Belorussian
0.8 Umbria
0.8 Sardinian
0.8 Turk_East_Black_Sea
0.6 Austrian
0.6 Sardinia
0.6 North-Dutch
0.6 Southeast_English
0.4 Piramalai
0.4 Romanian_Botosani
0.2 Romani

Alexa
12-30-2019, 09:33 PM
K15 Ancient

Single


16.4 MalakPreslavets_I0700
16.4 NeolithicScotland_I2636
13.8 MesolithicNeolithicSerbia_I4871
10.0 Sarmatian_Pokrovka_I0575
9.4 R1aM417_I6561
6.8 SatsurbliaCHG
5.4 Bavaria_STR310
4.8 JordanEBA_I1705
4.8 LateNeolithicMorocco_KEB4
2.4 ArmeniaMBA_RISE423
1.6 Sidon_731
1.2 Guanche_5
1.2 MakoCultureHungary_BR1
1.0 AboriginalAustralian
1.0 HallstattCelt_DA112
0.8 Bot17
0.8 ENAMorocco_IAM5
0.8 NeolithicUkraine_I1736
0.6 IA_Ardea_R850
0.4 Atacama
0.2 KennewickMan
0.2 Yamnaya_RISE548



K15 updated single


26.6 West_Norwegian
24.8 Sardinian
23.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
16.0 Ossetian
5.6 Moroccan
0.8 Kalash
0.6 NAN_Melanesian
0.4 Mayan
0.4 Papuan
0.4 Punjabi_Jat
0.2 Dai
0.2 Somali
0.2 Yoruban



K15 original

Single


26.8 West_Norwegian
24.8 Sardinian
23.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
15.8 Ossetian
5.6 Moroccan
1.4 Kalash
0.8 Papuan
0.2 Dai
0.2 Karitiana
0.2 Mayan
0.2 Somali
0.2 Vietnamese
0.2 Yoruban

Ikol
12-30-2019, 11:04 PM
How do u guys do this? Any help? :P

Ikol
12-31-2019, 12:18 AM
euro13k
Distance to: boris
4.24166241 Croat_Split
4.24447877 Serb_Croatia
4.42914213 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.62073416 Serbian_new
5.04027653 Serbian_Bosnia
6.02725321 Croat_Bosnia
6.04534097 Montenegrin
6.10429357 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.11548036 Szekely
6.27197864 Bosnian
6.27346794 Romanian_Transylvania
6.31355684 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
6.64216079 Csango_Gymes
6.66823815 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
8.01225662 Slovenian
8.11459796 Romanian_Oltenia
8.16013480 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
8.38300066 Moldavian
8.38896502 Macedonian
8.65612500 Romanian_Botosani
9.50795982 Bosniak_Tuzla
9.51789367 Hungarian
9.67838313 Romanian_Muntenia
9.89576677 Croatian
10.80042129 Bulgarian


Target: boris
Distance: 0.6336% / 0.63359325
24.8 Bulgarian
22.6 Polish
11.4 Bosniak_Sandzak
10.4 Trentino
6.2 Sardinian
5.8 German_east
5.2 Latvian
3.4 Croat_Split
2.8 Sardinia
2.0 Swiss_German
1.8 Molise
1.2 French_Basque
1.0 North_Macedonian
0.4 Dai
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.2 Laz
0.2 Welsh

Ikol
12-31-2019, 12:45 AM
I dont get this what am i

Coastal Elite
12-31-2019, 12:55 AM
K13 Update

Distance to: DacoCeltic
4.92461166 Swiss_German
5.55372848 Swiss_French
5.94655362 West_German
7.29870536 French
7.66045691 South_Dutch
8.19735323 AostaValley
10.34178901 German_West
11.93291666 Austrian
12.42264867 Trentino
12.56745002 Friuli-VG
13.00593711 Swiss-Italian

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 2.1640% / 2.16399089 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 West_German
18.2 AostaValley
4.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.0 Lebanese_Druze

K15 Update

Distance to: DacoCeltic
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.1860% / 3.18598494 | ADC: 0.25x
68.6 German_Bavarian
18.0 Belgium
6.4 Turkish_Trabzon
6.2 Italy_Trentino
0.8 Iraqi_Jew

Impaler
12-31-2019, 01:09 AM
K13 Update

Distance to: DacoCeltic
4.92461166 Swiss_German
5.55372848 Swiss_French
5.94655362 West_German
7.29870536 French
7.66045691 South_Dutch
8.19735323 AostaValley
10.34178901 German_West
11.93291666 Austrian
12.42264867 Trentino
12.56745002 Friuli-VG
13.00593711 Swiss-Italian

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 2.1640% / 2.16399089 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 West_German
18.2 AostaValley
4.0 Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.0 Lebanese_Druze

K15 Update

Distance to: DacoCeltic
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.1860% / 3.18598494 | ADC: 0.25x
68.6 German_Bavarian
18.0 Belgium
6.4 Turkish_Trabzon
6.2 Italy_Trentino
0.8 Iraqi_Jew

Not accurate for you. Maybe 0x better in this case.

Kaspias
12-31-2019, 01:25 AM
K13 Ancient

FTDNA Data

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.7978% / 2.79784922 | ADC: 0.25x
24.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
18.2 SZ1_SZ1
11.6 Crimean_Nogay
10.6 GM_DJUL
9.4 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
8.8 JK1968_Levaluhta
6.6 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
5.4 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
2.6 XyH3_XyH3
2.2 BronzeAgeSteppe_RISE493_Sabinka._Russia_1200_BC

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 6.2921% / 6.29208137 | ADC: 0.5x
33.4 SZ1_SZ1
26.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
17.0 Crimean_Nogay
13.0 GM_DJUL
9.2 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
0.6 copt315_copt315
0.6 LevantBA_M291439

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 8.7650% / 8.76500529 | ADC: 1x
41.2 SZ1_SZ1
34.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
20.6 Crimean_Nogay
3.4 XyH3_XyH3

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 13.6358% / 13.63578842 | ADC: 2x
59.8 SZ1_SZ1
40.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian


23andMe Data

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 3.6618% / 3.66180896 | ADC: 0.25x
27.2 SZ1_SZ1
23.4 GM_DJUL
13.8 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
13.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
10.6 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
6.2 Kivutkalns209_Ancient_Inflanty_R1a_R1a
3.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
0.8 Ma’lta_South_Central0Siberia_22.000_BC
0.6 Botai_CA_Yamnaya
0.2 JK1968_Levaluhta

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 7.3831% / 7.38307873 | ADC: 0.5x
29.8 SZ1_SZ1
28.0 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
23.2 GM_DJUL
6.4 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
5.2 Sidon_BA_ERS1790733
4.4 caananite_ERS1790733_caananite_ERS1790733
3.0 copt315_copt315

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 12.9110% / 12.91096180 | ADC: 1x
50.8 SZ1_SZ1
42.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
7.0 Crimean_Nogay

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 14.0865% / 14.08653795 | ADC: 2x
58.6 SZ1_SZ1
41.4 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian

Kaspias
12-31-2019, 01:28 AM
K13 Updated with 23andme data

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 3.0055% / 3.00551480 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 GR_Macedonia
27.6 Ashkenazi
22.2 Chuvash
3.2 Yemenite_Jewish
2.2 Crimean_Tatar
2.0 Lebanese_Druze

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 5.7579% / 5.75785690 | ADC: 0.5x
78.2 GR_Macedonia
9.2 Mari
7.2 Crimean_Tatar
3.0 Ashkenazi
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 8.8359% / 8.83585196 | ADC: 1x
93.0 GR_Macedonia
7.0 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 10.0234% / 10.02340594 | ADC: 2x
100.0 GR_Macedonia


FTDNA Data

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 2.2767% / 2.27667672 | ADC: 0.25x
25.4 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
19.0 GR_Macedonia
17.8 GR_Peloponese
13.2 Mari
11.8 Crimean_Tatar
7.4 Turk_Central_West
4.0 Tatar
1.0 Yemenite_Jewish
0.4 Turkmen

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 4.6576% / 4.65756603 | ADC: 0.5x
68.0 GR_Macedonia
29.8 Crimean_Tatar
1.4 Tatar
0.8 Mari

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 5.8741% / 5.87409251 | ADC: 1x
76.8 GR_Macedonia
23.2 Crimean_Tatar

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 10.9691% / 10.96909142 | ADC: 2x
100.0 GR_Macedonia


MH Data

Target: KaspiasMH
Distance: 2.4380% / 2.43796846 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
12.6 Crimean_Tatar
11.4 Mari
8.6 Ashkenazi
6.6 Turk_North_West
3.8 Greek_Andros_Island
2.2 Turkmen


Target: KaspiasMH
Distance: 4.3301% / 4.33012590 | ADC: 0.5x
57.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
27.8 Crimean_Tatar
14.4 GR_Macedonia

Target: KaspiasMH
Distance: 5.8248% / 5.82477566 | ADC: 1x
55.2 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
27.6 GR_Macedonia
17.2 Crimean_Tatar

Target: KaspiasMH
Distance: 9.7619% / 9.76189456 | ADC: 2x
51.0 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
49.0 GR_Macedonia

Kaspias
12-31-2019, 05:25 PM
@Deniz, K13 Ancient

Target: Deniz
Distance: 2.5176% / 2.51762757 | ADC: 0.25x
28.6 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
22.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
20.2 SZ1_SZ1
11.2 JK1968_Levaluhta
9.4 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a
3.6 copt315_copt315
2.2 XyH3_XyH3
2.0 GM_DJUL

Target: Deniz
Distance: 5.7375% / 5.73750784 | ADC: 0.5x
43.8 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
17.4 XyH3_XyH3
15.4 GM_DJUL
14.2 ArmeniaCA_I1631_Armenia_425004050_BC
7.0 SZ1_SZ1
2.2 Sungir6_Early_Medieval_Russian_I2a_I2a

Target: Deniz
Distance: 8.7649% / 8.76493368 | ADC: 1x
61.6 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
37.6 XyH3_XyH3
0.8 K2_52_vengr_lider

Target: Deniz
Distance: 11.1213% / 11.12125553 | ADC: 2x
66.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
17.6 SZ1_SZ1
16.2 XyH3_XyH3


K13 Updated

Target: Deniz
Distance: 2.6387% / 2.63865090 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Bulgarian
32.6 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
9.6 Chuvash
5.6 Lezgin
4.0 Tatar
2.8 Mari
0.8 Lebanese_Druze
0.4 Ethiopian_Tigray


Target: Deniz
Distance: 4.3185% / 4.31848780 | ADC: 0.5x
59.0 Bulgarian
16.6 GR_Macedonia
12.0 Tatar
10.0 Turk_North_West
1.2 Lezgin
1.2 Yagnobi


Target: Deniz
Distance: 7.2305% / 7.23047496 | ADC: 1x
84.0 Bulgarian
10.0 GR_Macedonia
6.0 Crimean_Tatar


Target: Deniz
Distance: 8.5755% / 8.57551165 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Bulgarian

Thracian
12-31-2019, 06:55 PM
Updated K13

23andMe


Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 2.2098% / 2.20976112 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 Romanian_Oltenia
31.2 Greek_Andros_Island
20.4 GR_Peloponese
14.2 Tadjik
1.8 Mari
0.4 Tatar

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 3.5546% / 3.55462700 | ADC: 0.5x
33.4 GR_Peloponese
29.6 Romanian_Oltenia
18.6 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
10.8 Tadjik
7.0 Greek_Andros_Island
0.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 7.5541% / 7.55409263 | ADC: 1x
71.2 GR_Macedonia
19.0 Kosovo_Albanian
7.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
2.0 Tadjik

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 8.5031% / 8.50308767 | ADC: 2x
100.0 GR_Macedonia


FTDNA


Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.0028% / 2.00282381 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Greek_Peloponnese
18.4 Romanian_Oltenia
16.0 Tadjik
10.0 GR_Macedonia
4.0 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
3.6 Tatar
0.8 Saudi
0.6 Punjabi_Jat

Target: Thracian
Distance: 3.2179% / 3.21791192 | ADC: 0.5x
35.8 GR_Macedonia
34.4 Greek_Peloponnese
14.4 Romanian_Oltenia
14.4 Tadjik
1.0 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Thracian
Distance: 7.1330% / 7.13297342 | ADC: 1x
74.6 GR_Macedonia
13.8 Greek_Peloponnese
6.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
4.4 Tadjik
0.4 Crimean_Tatar

Target: Thracian
Distance: 8.8905% / 8.89052867 | ADC: 2x
100.0 GR_Macedonia

Rocinante
12-31-2019, 08:40 PM
Uodated Eurogenes K15:
Target:
Distance: 2.7660% / 2.76595602 | ADC: 0.25x
53.0 Spanish_Galicia
21.6 Greek_Thessaly
14.6 West_German
10.8 Libyan_Jewish

I think it's the more accurate for me.

Hapanuwa
12-31-2019, 09:57 PM
Updated K13

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.4593% / 1.45933253 | ADC: 0.25x
65.2 Turk_North_West
15.8 Ashkenazi
10.6 Greek_Chios
3.8 Lebanese_Druze
2.8 Turk_Central_West
1.4 Dai
0.4 NAN_Melanesian

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 2.7945% / 2.79446433 | ADC: 0.5x
67.2 Turk_North_West
16.2 Ashkenazi
8.8 Turk_Central_West
7.8 Greek_Chios

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 4.3221% / 4.32214143 | ADC: 1x
82.0 Turk_North_West
17.8 Greek_Chios
0.2 Turk_Central_West

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 6.5352% / 6.53516641 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_North_West

Distance to: Hapanuwa
6.53516641 Turk_North_West
7.25663145 Turk_Central_West
8.18973138 Turk_Anatolia
9.03115164 Turk_South
9.93495848 Turk_Central_East
11.63338730 Turkish_mixed
11.86461125 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.05944858 Greek_Chios
12.94687607 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
14.22097746 Greek_Andros_Island
14.52451720 Central_Greek
14.67988164 Greek_Dodecanese
14.81816790 Greek_Cappadocian
15.18119231 Turk_Cypriot
15.22834200 Sicily
15.32357008 East_Sicilian
15.39644115 Malta
15.44144099 Turk_South_East
15.45385389 Calabria
15.50763038 Campania
15.78571189 Greek_Symi_Island
16.35734697 Apulia
16.44689636 Greek_Peloponnese
16.72443721 Basilicata
16.74434830 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 02:00 AM
Eastern Balkan patch v1 - Greek, Macedonian, Vlach, Torbesh.

Incoming Turk, Bulgarian, Pomak

Greek_Istanbul


North_Atlantic 18,08
Baltic 16,35
West_Med 16,12
West_Asian 19,69
East_Med 25,36
Red_Sea 2,59
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0,53
Amerindian 0,42
Oceanian 0,73
Northeast_African 0,13
Sub-Saharan -

Greek_Eastern-Thrace


Population
North_Atlantic 16.34 Pct
Baltic 17.89 Pct
West_Med 20.20 Pct
West_Asian 13.03 Pct
East_Med 27.42 Pct
Red_Sea 3.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.02 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian 0.13 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Greek_Western-Thrace



Population
North_Atlantic 21.88 Pct
Baltic 13.08 Pct
West_Med 22.91 Pct
West_Asian 12.65 Pct
East_Med 25.86 Pct
Red_Sea 1.90 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.34 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -




Greek_Eastern-Macedonia


North_Atlantic 20,66
Baltic 15,94
West_Med 21,89
West_Asian 13,13
East_Med 22,35
Red_Sea 4,13
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0,41
Siberian 0,19
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0,06
Northeast_African 1,25
Sub-Saharan -

Greek_Western-Macedonia


North_Atlantic 22,83
Baltic 18,2
West_Med 18,37
West_Asian 13,76
East_Med 23,52
Red_Sea 1,52
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0,49
Siberian 1,28
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Greek_Northern-Thrace


North_Atlantic 19.04
Baltic 22.53
West_Med 19.23
West_Asian 12.02
East_Med 24.12
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.00
Amerindian -
Oceanian 1.52
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Greek_Thessaloniki


North_Atlantic 19,32
Baltic 20,53
West_Med 20,5
West_Asian 11,27
East_Med 25,05
Red_Sea 2,32
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0,73
Amerindian 0,29
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Greek_Central-Macedonia


North_Atlantic 23,34
Baltic 16,97
West_Med 18,98
West_Asian 11,86
East_Med 22,95
Red_Sea 3,96
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0,81
Amerindian 0,64
Oceanian 0,46
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Serb_North-Macedonia


Population
North_Atlantic 18.17 Pct
Baltic 25.73 Pct
West_Med 24.26 Pct
West_Asian 13.50 Pct
East_Med 14.58 Pct
Red_Sea 2.09 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.99 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.68 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Vlach_Central-Macedonia



Population
North_Atlantic 21.16 Pct
Baltic 16.34 Pct
West_Med 21.87 Pct
West_Asian 11.20 Pct
East_Med 23.99 Pct
Red_Sea 4.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.06 Pct
East_Asian 0.43 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.81 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Vlach_N-Macedonia


North_Atlantic 22.21
Baltic 19.88
West_Med 20.33
West_Asian 11.84
East_Med 19.73
Red_Sea 4.68
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.66
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.67
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander


North_Atlantic 21,34
Baltic 21,03
West_Med 18,47
West_Asian 10,96
East_Med 22,05
Red_Sea 4,71
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1,06
Oceanian 0,25
Northeast_African 0,12
Sub-Saharan -

Macedonian_Southwest



North_Atlantic 18,21
Baltic 23,02
West_Med 22,24
West_Asian 10,01
East_Med 23,19
Red_Sea 2,53
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0,8
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Macedonian_Center



Population
North_Atlantic 19.26 Pct
Baltic 23.57 Pct
West_Med 21.08 Pct
West_Asian 12.68 Pct
East_Med 20.06 Pct
Red_Sea 1.89 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.17 Pct
Siberian 1.10 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.20 Pct

Macedonian_Southeast


North_Atlantic 21,19
Baltic 19,31
West_Med 17,17
West_Asian 15,1
East_Med 20,65
Red_Sea 3,91
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0,84
Siberian 0,59
Amerindian 0,29
Oceanian 0,95
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Macedonian_East



North_Atlantic 23,4
Baltic 22,77
West_Med 19,9
West_Asian 8,95
East_Med 21,84
Red_Sea 1,13
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0,77
Siberian 0,85
Amerindian 0,16
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0,24



Macedonian_Northwest


Population
North_Atlantic 23.21 Pct
Baltic 23.67 Pct
West_Med 19.11 Pct
West_Asian 10.68 Pct
East_Med 18.68 Pct
Red_Sea 2.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.58 Pct
East_Asian 0.47 Pct
Siberian 1.46 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -
Macedonian_North


Population
North_Atlantic 20.21 Pct
Baltic 24.00 Pct
West_Med 21.25 Pct
West_Asian 10.02 Pct
East_Med 21.18 Pct
Red_Sea 2.53 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.81 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



Macedonian_Western-Macedonia-Greece



Population
North_Atlantic 16.58 Pct
Baltic 23.42 Pct
West_Med 18.82 Pct
West_Asian 14.49 Pct
East_Med 23.78 Pct
Red_Sea 0.88 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.48 Pct
Siberian 0.25 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.12 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.18 Pct




Macedonian_Central-Macedonia-Greece



North_Atlantic 16.58
Baltic 23.42
West_Med 18.82
West_Asian 14.49
East_Med 23.78
Red_Sea 0.88
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.48
Siberian 0,25
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.12
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.18


Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central


North_Atlantic 21,08
Baltic 20,82
West_Med 21,51
West_Asian 10,81
East_Med 23,51
Red_Sea 0,98
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 0,16
Amerindian 0,74
Oceanian 0,39
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East


North_Atlantic 19.26
Baltic 17.27
West_Med 22.23
West_Asian 11.81
East_Med 23.16
Red_Sea 3.03
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.33
Siberian 0.93
Amerindian 0.98
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Lucas
01-01-2020, 09:48 AM
Eastern Balkan patch v1 - Greek, Macedonian, Vlach, Torbesh.

Incoming Turk, Bulgarian, Pomak


Can you post it in format used in SOURCE? So I can add easily to spreadsheet.

vbnetkhio
01-01-2020, 10:08 AM
Can you post it in format used in SOURCE? So I can add easily to spreadsheet.

could you add these to k13 ancient



0LS03_lowquality,30.15,49.16,5.06,1.1,0.62,2.45,2. 84,1.97,4.41,0,0,0,2.23
CL102_collegno_italy_longobard,43.27,20.57,18.96,6 .3,7.11,2.09,0,1.2,0.49,0,0,0,0
CL110_collegno_italy_longobard,20.25,4.24,33.01,21 .53,9.49,0,0,0,0.14,3.85,0.82,0,6.68
CL121_collegno_italy_longobard,26.63,4.66,21.87,15 .24,25.78,4.16,0,0,0,0,0.91,0,0.67
CL145_collegno_italy_longobard,53.01,27.98,7.21,5. 65,0.79,1.05,2.78,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0
CL146_collegno_italy_longobard,54.56,25.16,9.41,4. 77,1.52,0.92,1.25,0,0.63,0.55,0.4,0.83,0
CL151_collegno_italy_longobard,55.73,27.25,6.83,4. 75,0,2.45,1.17,0,0,0.6,1.22,0,0
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard,34.1,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0
CL25_collegno_italy_longobard,11.26,2.52,25.12,19. 43,32.95,5.15,1.74,0,0,0,1.28,0.41,0.13
CL30_collegno_italy_longobard,13.96,3.06,21.79,20. 09,31.88,8.58,0,0.3,0,0,0.33,0,0
CL31_collegno_italy_longobard,16.12,6.08,18.2,9.24 ,21.6,3.61,1.82,15.49,4.69,0.35,0.5,2.31,0
CL36_collegno_italy_longobard,30.28,11.03,22.92,11 .27,18.52,2.83,0,0,0,1.93,0,0,1.22
CL38_collegno_italy_longobard,17.03,1.66,19.44,20. 33,31.48,6.62,0,1.01,0,0.82,0,0.96,0.66
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard,39.3,17.55,18.93,6.5 ,13.34,2.4,0,0,1.59,0,0.26,0.12,0
CL49_collegno_italy_longobard,35.33,19,19.09,7.59, 16.78,0,0.1,0,0,0,0.27,1.81,0
CL53_collegno_italy_longobard,36.75,20.79,16.96,11 .43,11.09,0,2.21,0,0,0,0.77,0,0
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard,38.49,16.79,19.57,8. 69,12.69,1.15,0,0,0.82,0.85,0.26,0.32,0.38
CL63_collegno_italy_longobard,38.73,22.3,15.96,8.5 6,12.96,0,0,0.8,0,0.13,0.29,0,0.24
CL83_collegno_italy_longobard,50.79,24.89,12.46,6. 2,0.71,2.68,0,1.18,0.2,0.26,0,0.63,0
CL84_collegno_italy_longobard,51.4,26.75,12.42,4.2 7,1.3,1.75,0,0.85,0.83,0,0,0.44,0
CL87_collegno_italy_longobard,48.19,22.34,15.47,5. 32,3.89,2.63,0.53,0,0,0.79,0.09,0.66,0.09
CL92_collegno_italy_longobard,48.87,28.93,9.99,6.3 6,2.26,0,0,0.5,1.89,0,0.45,0.76,0
CL93_collegno_italy_longobard,49.96,27.68,9.25,8.5 9,0,1.17,0,0,1.12,0.35,0.83,0.3,0.75
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard,36.49,13.74,26.38,6. 19,11.55,1.47,2.1,0,0.08,0.92,0,1.09,0
CL97_collegno_italy_longobard,49.61,22.78,7.63,9.6 3,1.83,1.33,0,2.64,0.5,2.45,1.58,0,0
CrusaderSI39KingdomofJerusalem,45.31,22.76,13.49,8 .66,2.64,1.4,2.48,0,0.88,0.51,0.55,0,1.32
CrusaderSI40KingdomofJerusalem,41.86,10.92,27.97,1 .05,15.12,1.28,0,0.28,0.09,0.77,0.65,0,0
CrusaderSI41KingdomofJerusalem,31.41,4.77,23.95,3. 96,21.98,7.03,0,0,0,0.39,0.59,2.02,3.89
CrusaderSI47KingdomofJerusalem,40.19,23.36,21.76,8 .7,0.79,1.27,0,0,1.26,1.09,0,1.58,0
CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem,20.57,9.63,17.03,19 .69,27.77,2.54,2.24,0,0,0,0.53,0,0
IIf_lowquality,34.49,48.38,5.32,3.84,2.16,0,0,0,1. 74,1.14,1.28,0,1.65
IIIt_lowquality,25.53,57.94,8.51,2.57,0,0,0,3.69,0 .95,0.81,0,0,0
ILS01_lowquality,30.65,50.02,6.09,3.01,0,1.73,2,2. 51,0,2.18,0,0,1.81
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.28,15.21,17.88, 9.7,21.47,2.1,0.08,1.97,4.1,0.63,0.82,0.76,0
SZ11.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.42,26.66,12.81 ,12.63,0,0,0,0.41,0.49,0.59,0.71,0,0.26
SZ12_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.73,26.41,10.93,7. 23,5.09,0,0.97,0,0,0.9,1.74,0,0
SZ13_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.11,28.09,8.41,6.5 5,0,1.9,0.39,0,0,1.59,0.67,0.26,0
SZ14_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.48,21.88,12.89,11 .29,1.87,1.63,0,0,0,0.75,0.4,0,1.81
SZ15.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.73,25.21,10.82 ,7.99,0.51,1.04,2.62,1.37,0.71,0,0,0,0
SZ16_szolad_hungary_longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.4 5,0,0,1.44,0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0,0.2
SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard,36.42,21.45,16.35,8. 04,13.65,1.21,0,0,0.7,0.73,0.32,0,1.12
SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.74,4.12,29.7,6.95 ,30.1,2.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
SZ2.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.87,32.51,5.75,5 .47,0.08,0,0,0,0.32,0.35,0.88,1.34,0.42
SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard,15.89,33.79,0,5.69,3 4.99,0,4.56,0,0,0,5.08,0,0
SZ22_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.64,28.46,10.25,7. 39,1.26,0.36,1.8,0,0,0.17,2.66,0,0
SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.94,24.08,16.69,9. 09,4.75,1.76,0,0,0.76,0.47,1.46,0,0
SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard,44.94,24.23,12.95,4. 79,7.41,1.71,1.38,0.24,0,1.43,0.91,0,0
SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.49,28.04,8.22,10. 81,5.23,0.41,1.13,1.42,2.74,0,0.64,0.87,0
SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.42,16.52,16.3,10. 99,15.56,1.7,0.68,0.23,0,1.52,0,0.15,0.94
SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard,29.07,15.57,29.72,6. 14,16.11,2.07,0.39,0,0,0.76,0.13,0,0
SZ3.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.56,20.77,16.79, 1.48,11.28,0,2,0,0,1.53,0.59,0,0
SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.84,22.95,10.17,6. 85,5.09,0.37,2.13,0.89,0,0.77,0.3,0,0.65
SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard,24.3,7.09,13.86,12.1 8,38.4,0,0,2.6,0.76,0,0.49,0.32,0
SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.09,12.49,26.86,10 .42,20.05,3.33,0,0,0,0,0.09,1.65,0
SZ35_szolad_hungary_longobard,0,11,17.86,4.74,27.6 4,23.64,0,0,0,6.77,8.35,0,0
SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,27.92,12.58,21.19 ,10.42,21.76,4.42,0.26,0.37,0.17,0,0.48,0,0.42
SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.58,11.75,22.62,11 .18,21.88,1.16,1.93,0,1.4,0.57,0.92,0,0
SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.06,23.69,11.97,5. 26,9.88,0.41,0,0,0,1.4,0.66,0.67,0
SZ4.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.37,27.71,9.19,6 .95,0.33,0.63,1.88,0,1.31,0,0.64,0,0
SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard,21.34,7.68,22.41,12. 19,31.43,3.65,0,0.44,0,0.24,0,0,0.61
SZ41_szolad_hungary_longobard,50.31,30.99,10.56,2. 94,0,0,0,0,2.24,0.35,1.04,0,1.57
SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard,42.34,27.34,10.82,8. 77,7.72,0.96,0,0,0,0.98,1.07,0,0
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,31.04,10.75,24.23 ,8.89,21.65,1.59,0.31,0,0,0.71,0.84,0,0
SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,34.13,20.89,19.13 ,6.89,13,2.16,0,1.44,0,0,0.88,0.5,0.98
SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.7,26.59,15.63,6 .42,11.21,0.55,0.84,0,0.12,1.79,0.96,0,0.19
SZ6_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.71,11.84,14.23,0,1 6.99,6.07,0,0,0,0.66,3.49,0,0
SZ7_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.09,27.99,10.22,5.5 5,1.41,1.83,1.34,0,0.72,1.07,0.56,0,0.21
SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.33,20.12,12.34,4.6 1,9.75,0.53,0.61,0,0,0.91,0.87,0.93,0
SZ9_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.74,28.2,10.03,3.34 ,1,0.69,4.34,0,0.4,0.26,0,0,0
VIII7_lowquality,32.01,49.99,9.21,2.5,0,0,2.93,0,0 ,0.42,0.34,2.58,0
VIII8_lowquality,24.94,55.73,3.57,0,10.43,0.45,0,0 ,0,0,3.87,0,1

Lucas
01-01-2020, 10:25 AM
could you add these to k13 ancient



0LS03_lowquality,30.15,49.16,5.06,1.1,0.62,2.45,2. 84,1.97,4.41,0,0,0,2.23
CL102_collegno_italy_longobard,43.27,20.57,18.96,6 .3,7.11,2.09,0,1.2,0.49,0,0,0,0
CL110_collegno_italy_longobard,20.25,4.24,33.01,21 .53,9.49,0,0,0,0.14,3.85,0.82,0,6.68
CL121_collegno_italy_longobard,26.63,4.66,21.87,15 .24,25.78,4.16,0,0,0,0,0.91,0,0.67
CL145_collegno_italy_longobard,53.01,27.98,7.21,5. 65,0.79,1.05,2.78,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0
CL146_collegno_italy_longobard,54.56,25.16,9.41,4. 77,1.52,0.92,1.25,0,0.63,0.55,0.4,0.83,0
CL151_collegno_italy_longobard,55.73,27.25,6.83,4. 75,0,2.45,1.17,0,0,0.6,1.22,0,0
CL23_collegno_italy_longobard,34.1,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0
CL25_collegno_italy_longobard,11.26,2.52,25.12,19. 43,32.95,5.15,1.74,0,0,0,1.28,0.41,0.13
CL30_collegno_italy_longobard,13.96,3.06,21.79,20. 09,31.88,8.58,0,0.3,0,0,0.33,0,0
CL31_collegno_italy_longobard,16.12,6.08,18.2,9.24 ,21.6,3.61,1.82,15.49,4.69,0.35,0.5,2.31,0
CL36_collegno_italy_longobard,30.28,11.03,22.92,11 .27,18.52,2.83,0,0,0,1.93,0,0,1.22
CL38_collegno_italy_longobard,17.03,1.66,19.44,20. 33,31.48,6.62,0,1.01,0,0.82,0,0.96,0.66
CL47_collegno_italy_longobard,39.3,17.55,18.93,6.5 ,13.34,2.4,0,0,1.59,0,0.26,0.12,0
CL49_collegno_italy_longobard,35.33,19,19.09,7.59, 16.78,0,0.1,0,0,0,0.27,1.81,0
CL53_collegno_italy_longobard,36.75,20.79,16.96,11 .43,11.09,0,2.21,0,0,0,0.77,0,0
CL57_collegno_italy_longobard,38.49,16.79,19.57,8. 69,12.69,1.15,0,0,0.82,0.85,0.26,0.32,0.38
CL63_collegno_italy_longobard,38.73,22.3,15.96,8.5 6,12.96,0,0,0.8,0,0.13,0.29,0,0.24
CL83_collegno_italy_longobard,50.79,24.89,12.46,6. 2,0.71,2.68,0,1.18,0.2,0.26,0,0.63,0
CL84_collegno_italy_longobard,51.4,26.75,12.42,4.2 7,1.3,1.75,0,0.85,0.83,0,0,0.44,0
CL87_collegno_italy_longobard,48.19,22.34,15.47,5. 32,3.89,2.63,0.53,0,0,0.79,0.09,0.66,0.09
CL92_collegno_italy_longobard,48.87,28.93,9.99,6.3 6,2.26,0,0,0.5,1.89,0,0.45,0.76,0
CL93_collegno_italy_longobard,49.96,27.68,9.25,8.5 9,0,1.17,0,0,1.12,0.35,0.83,0.3,0.75
CL94_collegno_italy_longobard,36.49,13.74,26.38,6. 19,11.55,1.47,2.1,0,0.08,0.92,0,1.09,0
CL97_collegno_italy_longobard,49.61,22.78,7.63,9.6 3,1.83,1.33,0,2.64,0.5,2.45,1.58,0,0
CrusaderSI39KingdomofJerusalem,45.31,22.76,13.49,8 .66,2.64,1.4,2.48,0,0.88,0.51,0.55,0,1.32
CrusaderSI40KingdomofJerusalem,41.86,10.92,27.97,1 .05,15.12,1.28,0,0.28,0.09,0.77,0.65,0,0
CrusaderSI41KingdomofJerusalem,31.41,4.77,23.95,3. 96,21.98,7.03,0,0,0,0.39,0.59,2.02,3.89
CrusaderSI47KingdomofJerusalem,40.19,23.36,21.76,8 .7,0.79,1.27,0,0,1.26,1.09,0,1.58,0
CrusaderSI53KingdomofJerusalem,20.57,9.63,17.03,19 .69,27.77,2.54,2.24,0,0,0,0.53,0,0
IIf_lowquality,34.49,48.38,5.32,3.84,2.16,0,0,0,1. 74,1.14,1.28,0,1.65
IIIt_lowquality,25.53,57.94,8.51,2.57,0,0,0,3.69,0 .95,0.81,0,0,0
ILS01_lowquality,30.65,50.02,6.09,3.01,0,1.73,2,2. 51,0,2.18,0,0,1.81
SZ1.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.28,15.21,17.88, 9.7,21.47,2.1,0.08,1.97,4.1,0.63,0.82,0.76,0
SZ11.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.42,26.66,12.81 ,12.63,0,0,0,0.41,0.49,0.59,0.71,0,0.26
SZ12_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.73,26.41,10.93,7. 23,5.09,0,0.97,0,0,0.9,1.74,0,0
SZ13_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.11,28.09,8.41,6.5 5,0,1.9,0.39,0,0,1.59,0.67,0.26,0
SZ14_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.48,21.88,12.89,11 .29,1.87,1.63,0,0,0,0.75,0.4,0,1.81
SZ15.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.73,25.21,10.82 ,7.99,0.51,1.04,2.62,1.37,0.71,0,0,0,0
SZ16_szolad_hungary_longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.4 5,0,0,1.44,0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0,0.2
SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard,36.42,21.45,16.35,8. 04,13.65,1.21,0,0,0.7,0.73,0.32,0,1.12
SZ19_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.74,4.12,29.7,6.95 ,30.1,2.38,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
SZ2.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,52.87,32.51,5.75,5 .47,0.08,0,0,0,0.32,0.35,0.88,1.34,0.42
SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard,15.89,33.79,0,5.69,3 4.99,0,4.56,0,0,0,5.08,0,0
SZ22_szolad_hungary_longobard,47.64,28.46,10.25,7. 39,1.26,0.36,1.8,0,0,0.17,2.66,0,0
SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.94,24.08,16.69,9. 09,4.75,1.76,0,0,0.76,0.47,1.46,0,0
SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard,44.94,24.23,12.95,4. 79,7.41,1.71,1.38,0.24,0,1.43,0.91,0,0
SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard,40.49,28.04,8.22,10. 81,5.23,0.41,1.13,1.42,2.74,0,0.64,0.87,0
SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.42,16.52,16.3,10. 99,15.56,1.7,0.68,0.23,0,1.52,0,0.15,0.94
SZ28_szolad_hungary_longobard,29.07,15.57,29.72,6. 14,16.11,2.07,0.39,0,0,0.76,0.13,0,0
SZ3.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,45.56,20.77,16.79, 1.48,11.28,0,2,0,0,1.53,0.59,0,0
SZ30_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.84,22.95,10.17,6. 85,5.09,0.37,2.13,0.89,0,0.77,0.3,0,0.65
SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard,24.3,7.09,13.86,12.1 8,38.4,0,0,2.6,0.76,0,0.49,0.32,0
SZ32_szolad_hungary_longobard,25.09,12.49,26.86,10 .42,20.05,3.33,0,0,0,0,0.09,1.65,0
SZ35_szolad_hungary_longobard,0,11,17.86,4.74,27.6 4,23.64,0,0,0,6.77,8.35,0,0
SZ36.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,27.92,12.58,21.19 ,10.42,21.76,4.42,0.26,0.37,0.17,0,0.48,0,0.42
SZ37_szolad_hungary_longobard,26.58,11.75,22.62,11 .18,21.88,1.16,1.93,0,1.4,0.57,0.92,0,0
SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.06,23.69,11.97,5. 26,9.88,0.41,0,0,0,1.4,0.66,0.67,0
SZ4.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.37,27.71,9.19,6 .95,0.33,0.63,1.88,0,1.31,0,0.64,0,0
SZ40_szolad_hungary_longobard,21.34,7.68,22.41,12. 19,31.43,3.65,0,0.44,0,0.24,0,0,0.61
SZ41_szolad_hungary_longobard,50.31,30.99,10.56,2. 94,0,0,0,0,2.24,0.35,1.04,0,1.57
SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard,42.34,27.34,10.82,8. 77,7.72,0.96,0,0,0,0.98,1.07,0,0
SZ43.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,31.04,10.75,24.23 ,8.89,21.65,1.59,0.31,0,0,0.71,0.84,0,0
SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,34.13,20.89,19.13 ,6.89,13,2.16,0,1.44,0,0,0.88,0.5,0.98
SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard,35.7,26.59,15.63,6 .42,11.21,0.55,0.84,0,0.12,1.79,0.96,0,0.19
SZ6_szolad_hungary_longobard,46.71,11.84,14.23,0,1 6.99,6.07,0,0,0,0.66,3.49,0,0
SZ7_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.09,27.99,10.22,5.5 5,1.41,1.83,1.34,0,0.72,1.07,0.56,0,0.21
SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard,49.33,20.12,12.34,4.6 1,9.75,0.53,0.61,0,0,0.91,0.87,0.93,0
SZ9_szolad_hungary_longobard,51.74,28.2,10.03,3.34 ,1,0.69,4.34,0,0.4,0.26,0,0,0
VIII7_lowquality,32.01,49.99,9.21,2.5,0,0,2.93,0,0 ,0.42,0.34,2.58,0
VIII8_lowquality,24.94,55.73,3.57,0,10.43,0.45,0,0 ,0,0,3.87,0,1


Added!

ksha
01-01-2020, 11:18 AM
k13 updated with 23andme data
..i don'tknow why i have this..:))

Distance to: ksha
6.00766177 Kaykavian_Croatian
6.10238478 Czech
6.84275529 Hungarian
7.13177804 Slovak
7.57303110 German_east
8.40026190 East_German
9.09962317 Slovenian
9.17886159 Austrian
9.74089318 South_Polish
10.24536481 Bosniak_Tuzla
10.29225923 Croatian
10.76226190 Croat_Bosnia
11.88583611 Csango_Gymes
11.90401193 Ukrainian_Lviv
12.18840022 Szekely
12.34297371 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
12.72035377 Ukrainian
12.91147697 Serbian_Bosnia
13.02965464 Croat_Split
13.04852865 Moldavian
13.27469774 Polish
13.66344027 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
13.66937536 Bosnian
14.42646180 Southwest_Finnish
14.74288981 North-Sweden


Distance: 1.9852% / 1.98515166
43.4 Swedish
27.0 Belorussian
13.2 Lithuanian
12.0 Lebanese_Druze
1.4 Piramalai
1.2 North-Dutch
1.2 Yoruban
0.6 Papuan

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 11:18 AM
Can you post it in format used in SOURCE? So I can add easily to spreadsheet.

There were some samples which already included with the same name. I labeled them as Kaspias, and will update in the future as i get more covering samples.

I will post Turks, Pomaks and Bulgarians today or tomorrow.


Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias),18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26 .36,2.59,0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Thrace(Kaspias),16.34,17.89,20.20,13.03,27.42,3.63 ,0,0,1.02,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Western-Thrace(Kaspias),21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.90 ,0,1.34,0,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia(Kaspias),20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4 .13,0,0.41,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Western-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.83,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1. 52,0,0.49,1.28,0,0,0,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias),19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0, 0,1.00,0,1.52,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki(Kaspias),19.32,20.53,20.5,11.27 ,25.05,2.32,0,0,0.73,0.29,0,0,0
Greek_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),23.34,16.97,18.98,11.86,22.95,3 .96,0,0,0.81,0.64,0.46,0,0
Serb_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),18.17,25.73,24.26,13.50,14.58,2 .09,0,0,0,0.99,0,0.68,0
Vlach_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),21.16,16.34,21.87,11.20,23.99,4 .14,0.06,0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4 .68,0,0.66,0,0,0.67,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander(Kaspias),21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05, 4.71,0,0,0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
Macedonian_Southwest(Kaspias),18.21,23.02,22.24,10 .01,23.19,2.53,0,0.8,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Central(Kaspias),19.26,23.57,21.08,12.6 8,20.06,1.89,0,0.17,1.10,0,0,0,0.20
Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias),21.19,19.31,17.17,15 .1,20.65,3.91,0,0.84,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Macedonian_East(Kaspias),23.4,22.77,19.9,8.95,21.8 4,1.13,0,0.77,0.85,0.16,0,0,0.24
Macedonian_Northwest(Kaspias),23.21,23.67,19.11,10 .68,18.68,2.14,0.58,0.47,1.46,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_North(Kaspias),20.21,24.00,21.25,10.02, 21.18,2.53,0,0.81,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Greece(Kaspias),16.58,23.42,18.82,14.49 ,23.78,0.88,0,1.48,0.25,0,0.12,0,0.18
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central(Kaspias),21.08,20.82,21.51,10.81,23.51,0.9 8,0,0,0.16,0.74,0.39,0,0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East(Kaspias),19.26,17.27,22.23,11.81,23.16,3.03,0 ,1.33,0.93,0.98,0,0,0

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 11:29 AM
My results with them. I wanted to try without Balkan Turks and Pomaks

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 1.9836% / 1.98357526 | ADC: 0.25x
35.6 Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias)
30.4 GR_Macedonia
15.8 Crimean_Tatar
13.2 Mari
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
1.6 Ashkenazi
0.6 Selkup
0.4 Romani

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 4.4186% / 4.41859844 | ADC: 0.5x
59.6 GR_Macedonia
28.4 Crimean_Tatar
7.4 Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias)
2.6 Mari
2.0 Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias)


Target: Kaspias
Distance: 6.3379% / 6.33788649 | ADC: 1x
43.6 GR_Macedonia
35.8 Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias)
19.8 Crimean_Tatar
0.8 Macedonian_Greece(Kaspias)

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 10.5416% / 10.54157483 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias)

Dušan
01-01-2020, 11:36 AM
https://i.imgur.com/t6T39fI.jpg








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Dušan
01-01-2020, 11:46 AM
x0.25

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Mingle
01-01-2020, 12:02 PM
There were some samples which already included with the same name. I labeled them as Kaspias, and will update in the future as i get more covering samples.

I will post Turks, Pomaks and Bulgarians today or tomorrow.


Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias),18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26 .36,2.59,0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Thrace(Kaspias),16.34,17.89,20.20,13.03,27.42,3.63 ,0,0,1.02,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Western-Thrace(Kaspias),21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.90 ,0,1.34,0,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia(Kaspias),20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4 .13,0,0.41,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Western-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.83,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1. 52,0,0.49,1.28,0,0,0,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias),19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0, 0,1.00,0,1.52,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki(Kaspias),19.32,20.53,20.5,11.27 ,25.05,2.32,0,0,0.73,0.29,0,0,0
Greek_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),23.34,16.97,18.98,11.86,22.95,3 .96,0,0,0.81,0.64,0.46,0,0
Serb_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),18.17,25.73,24.26,13.50,14.58,2 .09,0,0,0,0.99,0,0.68,0
Vlach_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),21.16,16.34,21.87,11.20,23.99,4 .14,0.06,0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4 .68,0,0.66,0,0,0.67,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander(Kaspias),21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05, 4.71,0,0,0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
Macedonian_Southwest(Kaspias),18.21,23.02,22.24,10 .01,23.19,2.53,0,0.8,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Central(Kaspias),19.26,23.57,21.08,12.6 8,20.06,1.89,0,0.17,1.10,0,0,0,0.20
Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias),21.19,19.31,17.17,15 .1,20.65,3.91,0,0.84,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Macedonian_East(Kaspias),23.4,22.77,19.9,8.95,21.8 4,1.13,0,0.77,0.85,0.16,0,0,0.24
Macedonian_Northwest(Kaspias),23.21,23.67,19.11,10 .68,18.68,2.14,0.58,0.47,1.46,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_North(Kaspias),20.21,24.00,21.25,10.02, 21.18,2.53,0,0.81,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Greece(Kaspias),16.58,23.42,18.82,14.49 ,23.78,0.88,0,1.48,0.25,0,0.12,0,0.18
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central(Kaspias),21.08,20.82,21.51,10.81,23.51,0.9 8,0,0,0.16,0.74,0.39,0,0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East(Kaspias),19.26,17.27,22.23,11.81,23.16,3.03,0 ,1.33,0.93,0.98,0,0,0

What's the sample size for these?

Lucas
01-01-2020, 12:03 PM
There were some samples which already included with the same name. I labeled them as Kaspias, and will update in the future as i get more covering samples.

I will post Turks, Pomaks and Bulgarians today or tomorrow.


Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias),18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26 .36,2.59,0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Thrace(Kaspias),16.34,17.89,20.20,13.03,27.42,3.63 ,0,0,1.02,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Western-Thrace(Kaspias),21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.90 ,0,1.34,0,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia(Kaspias),20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4 .13,0,0.41,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Western-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.83,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1. 52,0,0.49,1.28,0,0,0,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias),19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0, 0,1.00,0,1.52,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki(Kaspias),19.32,20.53,20.5,11.27 ,25.05,2.32,0,0,0.73,0.29,0,0,0
Greek_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),23.34,16.97,18.98,11.86,22.95,3 .96,0,0,0.81,0.64,0.46,0,0
Serb_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),18.17,25.73,24.26,13.50,14.58,2 .09,0,0,0,0.99,0,0.68,0
Vlach_Central-Macedonia(Kaspias),21.16,16.34,21.87,11.20,23.99,4 .14,0.06,0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia(Kaspias),22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4 .68,0,0.66,0,0,0.67,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander(Kaspias),21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05, 4.71,0,0,0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
Macedonian_Southwest(Kaspias),18.21,23.02,22.24,10 .01,23.19,2.53,0,0.8,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Central(Kaspias),19.26,23.57,21.08,12.6 8,20.06,1.89,0,0.17,1.10,0,0,0,0.20
Macedonian_Southeast(Kaspias),21.19,19.31,17.17,15 .1,20.65,3.91,0,0.84,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Macedonian_East(Kaspias),23.4,22.77,19.9,8.95,21.8 4,1.13,0,0.77,0.85,0.16,0,0,0.24
Macedonian_Northwest(Kaspias),23.21,23.67,19.11,10 .68,18.68,2.14,0.58,0.47,1.46,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_North(Kaspias),20.21,24.00,21.25,10.02, 21.18,2.53,0,0.81,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Greece(Kaspias),16.58,23.42,18.82,14.49 ,23.78,0.88,0,1.48,0.25,0,0.12,0,0.18
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central(Kaspias),21.08,20.82,21.51,10.81,23.51,0.9 8,0,0,0.16,0.74,0.39,0,0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East(Kaspias),19.26,17.27,22.23,11.81,23.16,3.03,0 ,1.33,0.93,0.98,0,0,0
Added, thanks.

Bosniensis
01-01-2020, 12:13 PM
With Kaspias samples:

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 0.4581% / 0.45807797
30.0 Macedonian_Southwest(Kaspias)
20.8 Macedonian_Greece(Kaspias)
13.0 Lithuanian
10.0 South_Polish
9.2 Austrian
7.6 Southeast_English
3.8 Trentino
1.6 Sakilli
1.0 Swiss_Italian
0.6 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.6 Romani
0.6 Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias)
0.4 Malay
0.2 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 North_German
0.2 Macedonian_North(Kaspias)
0.2 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central(Kaspias)

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.2092% / 1.20920291 | ADC: 0.25x
85.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
10.8 Romanian_Transylvania
1.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.2 Macedonian
1.0 Trentino
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 12:19 PM
What's the sample size for these?

One to three for each.

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 01:26 PM
Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 0.4152% / 0.41523395
40.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.4 Belorussian
8.6 Bosniak_Tuzla
8.4 Macedonian_East
6.0 Latvian
5.6 Lebanese_Druze
5.4 Greek_Western-Macedonia
4.8 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
2.4 Norwegian
2.2 Southwest_Finnish
1.8 Greek_Thessaloniki
1.4 Greek_Istanbul
1.0 Estonian
0.2 Swiss_German

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 01:59 PM
Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 0.4152% / 0.41523395
40.8 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.4 Belorussian
8.6 Bosniak_Tuzla
8.4 Macedonian_East
6.0 Latvian
5.6 Lebanese_Druze
5.4 Greek_Western-Macedonia
4.8 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
2.4 Norwegian
2.2 Southwest_Finnish
1.8 Greek_Thessaloniki
1.4 Greek_Istanbul
1.0 Estonian
0.2 Swiss_German

Can you try it with 0.25x and 0.5x?

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 02:13 PM
Can you try it with 0.25x and 0.5x?

Yeah man...

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 1.7696% / 1.76958801 | ADC: 0.25x
32.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
28.8 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
26.6 Macedonian
9.6 Southwest_Russian
1.6 Belorussian
0.8 Bosnian
0.4 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: JohnnyP
Distance: 2.8565% / 2.85646164 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Greek_Northern-Thrace
21.4 Macedonian
11.6 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
7.8 Bosnian
1.0 Romanian_Botosani

paradox
01-01-2020, 02:36 PM
My father's k13 updated with Kaspias references.
Hi Kaspias, what's your opinion?

Target: Father
Distance: 0.3643% / 0.36434400

14.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias)
11.2 Greek_Central Macedonia(Kaspias)
9.8 Swiss_Italian
9.8 Greek_Thessaloniki(Kaspias)
9.2 Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias)
7.6 Belorussian
7.6 Greek_EasternThrace(Kaspias)
7.4 Southwest_Finnish
7.2 Norwegian
5.8 Swiss_German
4.4 Lebanese_Christian
2.4 Cossacks_Kuban
2.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.2 Latvian
0.2 Greek_Western-Macedonia(Kaspias)

Target: Father
Distance: 1.5525% / 1.55253703 | ADC: 0.25x

83.4 Romanian_Oltenia
8.2 Swiss_Italian
3.6 NorthSwedish
3.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.2 Montenegrin
0.4 Macedonian_East(Kaspias)

Target: Father
Distance: 2.4751% / 2.47510290 | ADC: 0.5x

88.8 Romanian_Oltenia
10.2 Friuli-VG
0.6 Yemenite_Jewish
0.4 Montenegrin

Target: Father
Distance: 3.1836% / 3.18364571 | ADC: 1x

100.0 Romanian_Oltenia

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 04:06 PM
My father's k13 updated with Kaspias references.
Hi Kaspias, what's your opinion?

Target: Father
Distance: 0.3643% / 0.36434400

14.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace(Kaspias)
11.2 Greek_Central Macedonia(Kaspias)
9.8 Swiss_Italian
9.8 Greek_Thessaloniki(Kaspias)
9.2 Greek_Istanbul(Kaspias)
7.6 Belorussian
7.6 Greek_EasternThrace(Kaspias)
7.4 Southwest_Finnish
7.2 Norwegian
5.8 Swiss_German
4.4 Lebanese_Christian
2.4 Cossacks_Kuban
2.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.2 Latvian
0.2 Greek_Western-Macedonia(Kaspias)

Target: Father
Distance: 1.5525% / 1.55253703 | ADC: 0.25x

83.4 Romanian_Oltenia
8.2 Swiss_Italian
3.6 NorthSwedish
3.2 Yemenite_Jewish
1.2 Montenegrin
0.4 Macedonian_East(Kaspias)

Target: Father
Distance: 2.4751% / 2.47510290 | ADC: 0.5x

88.8 Romanian_Oltenia
10.2 Friuli-VG
0.6 Yemenite_Jewish
0.4 Montenegrin

Target: Father
Distance: 3.1836% / 3.18364571 | ADC: 1x

100.0 Romanian_Oltenia

How can he be more Northern shifted than Oltenia? He didn't even score Eastern Macedonia and Vlach but directly Wallachia. I don't think Aromanians have exact same genetic with Daco-Romanians, this may point a surprising ancestral background.

I can't remember the village of your father, but i remember the two cities he lived. I also remember you said something like there were iron mine. So i made a general investigation on it. I don't know if it will be helpful or not.

Checked the migration movements of Vlachs in Eastern Macedonia, their possible origin, this was what i found:


In the same period, most of the men of Nymfaio were supporting their families by working as goldsmiths, tailors, dyers, and transporters. To begin with, they were itinerant craftsmen and artisans, and they gradually established colonies in a number of towns and kefalohoria in Macedonia and beyond, as far as Përmet in southern Albania and Thiva (Thebes) in southern Greece. Many of them, starting off mainly as goldsmiths, developed into enterprising merchants ― dealing mainly in tobacco ― not only in the Balkans but also in Constantinople, Romania, Egypt, and even Sweden. The men working away from home were gradually joined by their families, particularly in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century, forming some noteworthy Nevestian colonies, some small, others quite large, in Florina, Kastoria, Monastir, Edessa, Naoussa, Veria, and Yannitsa, with the largest and most vigorous community being in Thessaloniki. In Eastern Macedonia, they met up with earlier refugees from Nymfaio. With the influx of new migrants from Nymfaio, small but vigorous and well-to-do colonies of, mainly, goldsmiths and tobacco mechants sprang up in Serres, Drama, Prossotsani, Doxato, Kavala, and Xanthi. It must have been through Kavala and Constantinople that the Nevestians forged their connections with Egypt, where they established vigorous, wealthy colonies.

The people of Klissoura already had close connections with the colonies in the Habsburg Empire and Serbia, and that was where they chose to go until the beginning of the twentieth century, establishing rich colonies in Vienna, Budapest, Dresden, Zemun, Belgrade, Pancevo, Nis, Bucharest, Jassy, and Odessa. More than 2,000 families reportedly made their way to these Klissourian colonies, a probably exaggerated figure, but certainly indicative of the magnitude of the migrations from Klissoura. Unlike the inhabitants of the other Vlach villages and settlements in this group, the Klissourians did not disperse as merchants and craftsmen to the towns and kafalohoria of Macedonia (apart from the internal migrants who went to nearby Kastoria, Amyndaio, and Ptolemaïda). During the nineteenth century, Klissoura evolved into a vigorous commercial and light industrial centre and a transit centre that rivalled Kastoria. In its heyday it may have had as many as a thousand houses, with more than a hundred shops and light industrial establishments in its commercial centre. Numerous Vlach caravans, even from other places, such as Veria and Katerini, set out from Klissoura for all the major commercial centres in the Balkans, carrying all kinds of marketable goods. Emigration halved the population between 1870 (6,400 inhabitants) and 1912 (3,000 inhabitants). Most of the Klissourians remained within the Ottoman Empire at this time. From 1890 onwards, they headed in large numbers for Constantinople and Thessaloniki. At the beginning of the twentieth century, the colony in Constantinople comprised about eighty enterprising merchants and craftsmen and a total of 300 souls. A vigorous association named Profitis Ilias was established to help organise the colony better. It was disbanded after 1908, and the most dynamic members moved mainly to Thessaloniki, where the old Klissourian colony played a leading role in the affairs of the Greek Orthodox community. In 1907, the Klissourians set up the Ayios Markos Association. A smaller group, mainly of tobacco merchants, settled in Kavala at this time.

Throughout the nineteenth century, the Blatsiots (from Vlasti), whether descended from the Vlach refugees of 1769 onwards or from Greek-speakers living in Vlasti, continued to maintain their contact with, and to emigrate to, the colonies in the Habsburg Empire, the Danubian Principalities, and Serbia, accompanying the Vlach or Grek caravans heading north across the Danube. The colonies which they established in the towns in Eastern Macedonia in the first half of the nineteenth century grew considerably between the 1860s and the beginning of the twentieth century. During this latter period, those who left Vlasti were migrants, not fugitives, and were members of the merchant and light industrial class, not transhumant stockbreeders. Thus, most of the Blatsiots who went to Thessaloniki, Serres, Kavala, Drama, Constantinople, Egypt, and Romania at this time had almost forgotten the Vlach language.

Presence of them:


Contrary to the general impression, there have been Vlach associations, societies and fraternities in Greece for many decades now. Some of them are extremely well-established, with an active history stretching back over about a hundred years: for example, the associations of the Vlachs of Olympos, Klissoura and Monastiri in the city of Thessaloniki, and the association of the Vlachs of Samarina in Larissa. It is true that in the years immediately following the war (leaving aside the earlier period) the Greek political scene did not provide a hospitable environment for groups like the Vlachs. Much the same was true, of course, in the other Balkan countries, those behind the so-called Iron Curtain. Nevertheless, from the 1960’s and 1970’s – as the widespread internal migration of the period gradually brought large waves of Vlachs to the major cities, where they established themselves - more and more associations began to be founded, with an interest in the traditions, culture and place of origin of each group. Here in the city, far from their villages and cut off from the traditional way of life they had previously enjoyed, the Vlachs felt a more pressing need to come together and form their own associations. The next big step was taken in the early 1980’s. Post-war democracy in Greece had now come of age. A significant number of Vlach associations came together to form a second-tier organisation, the ‘Panhellenic Federation of Vlach Cultural Associations’, which now numbers 89 members, associations from all over Greece, from Prossotsani in Eastern Macedonia to Paleomanina in western Mainland Greece. The word Vlach now began to be heard more and more frequently. The Vlach Federation is indisputably the largest of its kind in the Balkans, and still growing; there are at least 25 other associations waiting to become members, and new ones are constantly being established in all parts of the country.




In the nineteenth century, both the Vlach villages with a commercial, light industrial, and ‘urban’ economic basis and those that were more directly involved in various forms of stockbreeding were large prosperous communities, at least in comparison with the neighbouring villages and estates dwelt in and worked by the smallholders and tenant farmers of other linguistic groups. And wherever the Vlachs cohabited with other groups, they usually held high positions in the local economic, social, and cultural class system. There were exceptions, of course, such as the Vlach villages in Moglena and the hut settlements of the exclusively nomadic Vlach stockbreeders. The interest of many researchers has focused on the pastoral Vlachs, and they have rather neglected the equally numerous, but settled, merchants and craftsmen. One of the direct effects of this has been to reinforce the stereotypical misperceptions about the Vlachs. The examples of Vlach communities. in and around such Central and Eastern Macedonian towns as Katerini, Servia, Veria, Naoussa, Edessa, Aridaia, Gevgelija, Serres, Iraklia, Alistrati, Nevrokop (Goce Delčev), Prossotsani, Drama, Hryssoupoli, and especially Thessaloniki come as a great surprise to most people and show how little they know about who the Vlachs really are.




In my opinion, there are two options for your father: Gramostian or Daco-Romanian. Highlander Vlach sample should be Gramostian, but as you see your father is very Northern compared to him. Is it a result of a Daco-Romanian migration or mixing with other ethnicities?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/South-Balkan-Romance-languages.png/1280px-South-Balkan-Romance-languages.png

I searched who were living in Eastern Macedonia before the Balkan Wars. I saw that there was a Bulgarian community who identify as Marvaks.(Мървашко)


Мърва̀шко или Марва̀шко е историко-географска област в Югоизточна Македония, днес разположена на териториите на Гърция (Егейска Македония) и България (Пиринска Македония). Основният поминък на мървашките села е бил рударство и железодобив, с които се свързва произходът на името Мървашко.

The main livelihood of the Muravak villages was mining and iron mining, which are associated with the origin of the name Murvashko.

vbnetkhio
01-01-2020, 04:21 PM
How can he be more Northern shifted than Oltenia?


Oltenians aren't very northern plotting. a lot of Bulgarians are more north than them. they speak a pre-Slavic language after all.

Impaler
01-01-2020, 04:24 PM
What type of Greek is this sample? Greek_Western-Macedonia

I am closest to Macedonian/Greek samples than Romanian :)


Distance to: Impaler
8.28440704 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.58049532 Macedonian_Southeast
8.94314262 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.62560290 North_Macedonian
9.62869605 Kosovo_Albanian
9.76831613 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.15002463 Bulgarian
10.32157934 Romanian_Oltenia
10.41340962 Vlach_North-Macedonia
10.52220034 Macedonian_Northwest
10.87855689 Macedonian_East
10.95321871 Greek_Thessaly
10.97552172 Macedonian
11.12095882 GR_Peloponese
11.22323928 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.33592519 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.38153329 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
11.41358693 GR_Macedonia
11.51306215 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
11.58537440 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
11.72229500 Romanian_Muntenia
11.83096361 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
12.06858929 Montenegrin
12.24965306 Macedonian_Central
12.34091974 Romanian_Transylvania

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 04:29 PM
What type of Greek is this sample? Greek_Western-Macedonia

I am closest to Macedonian/Greek samples than Romanian :)


Distance to: Impaler
8.28440704 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.58049532 Macedonian_Southeast
8.94314262 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.62560290 North_Macedonian
9.62869605 Kosovo_Albanian
9.76831613 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.15002463 Bulgarian
10.32157934 Romanian_Oltenia
10.41340962 Vlach_North-Macedonia
10.52220034 Macedonian_Northwest
10.87855689 Macedonian_East
10.95321871 Greek_Thessaly
10.97552172 Macedonian
11.12095882 GR_Peloponese
11.22323928 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.33592519 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.38153329 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
11.41358693 GR_Macedonia
11.51306215 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
11.58537440 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
11.72229500 Romanian_Muntenia
11.83096361 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
12.06858929 Montenegrin
12.24965306 Macedonian_Central
12.34091974 Romanian_Transylvania

From Florina

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 05:04 PM
From Florina

and Greek_Northern-Thrace is from ?

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 05:14 PM
and Greek_Northern-Thrace is from ?

Ivaylovgrad, Bulgaria

Jana
01-01-2020, 05:15 PM
My father updated, looks super accurate :thumb001:

27.6 Croat_Split
24.2 Slovenian
21.6 Hungarian
13.8 Bosniak_Tuzla
10.6 Romanian_Transylvania
1.6 Romanian_Muntenia
0.6 Dai

64.0 Croat_Split
23.6 Hungarian
10.8 Slovenian
1.6 Bosniak_Tuzla

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 05:17 PM
Ivaylovgrad, Bulgaria

Greek from Ivaylovgrad?

Kaspias
01-01-2020, 05:17 PM
Greek from Ivaylovgrad?

Yes.

Ford
01-01-2020, 05:21 PM
Updated K13

Target: Ford
Distance: 1.7786% / 1.77855005 | ADC: 0.25x
35.2 Croat_Split
22.0 Serb_Croatia
19.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
17.2 Serbian_Bosnia
5.2 Romanian_Muntenia
0.8 Selkup
0.4 Sardinian

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.9267% / 0.92665539
20.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
18.4 Southwest_Finnish
16.4 Macedonian_Central
12.2 Latvian
9.6 Macedonian_East
9.4 South_Polish
8.0 Romanian_Muntenia
4.6 Sardinian
0.8 Trentino
0.6 French_Basque

Leto
01-01-2020, 05:34 PM
Updated K13

Target: Ford
Distance: 1.7786% / 1.77855005 | ADC: 0.25x
35.2 Croat_Split
22.0 Serb_Croatia
19.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
17.2 Serbian_Bosnia
5.2 Romanian_Muntenia
0.8 Selkup
0.4 Sardinian

Target: Ford
Distance: 0.9267% / 0.92665539
20.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
18.4 Southwest_Finnish
16.4 Macedonian_Central
12.2 Latvian
9.6 Macedonian_East
9.4 South_Polish
8.0 Romanian_Muntenia
4.6 Sardinian
0.8 Trentino
0.6 French_Basque
What is ADC: 0.25x? Where can I select it?

Ford
01-01-2020, 05:36 PM
What is ADC: 0.25x? Where can I select it?

It's the ADD DIST COL function, interestingly I become more and more Bosnian Serb as I increase this.

Target: Ford
Distance: 2.3538% / 2.35378153 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Serbian_Bosnia

Target: Ford
Distance: 2.2745% / 2.27445246 | ADC: 1x
71.8 Serbian_Bosnia
24.4 Croat_Split
3.8 Serb_Croatia

Target: Ford
Distance: 2.0846% / 2.08455536 | ADC: 0.5x
57.2 Serbian_Bosnia
25.6 Croat_Split
16.8 Serb_Croatia
0.4 Selkup

Leto
01-01-2020, 05:45 PM
Used values from yourDNAportal

Target: Leto
Distance: 3.7583% / 3.75830350 | ADC: 2x
78.6 Southwest_Russian
21.4 Kargopol_Russian

Target: Leto
Distance: 3.4142% / 3.41422433 | ADC: 1x
61.6 Southwest_Russian
38.4 Kargopol_Russian

Target: Leto
Distance: 2.8400% / 2.83997686 | ADC: 0.5x
53.6 Southwest_Russian
34.2 Kargopol_Russian
4.6 Finnish
4.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.2 Tatar
0.2 West_Greenlander

Target: Leto
Distance: 1.7141% / 1.71414306 | ADC: 0.25x
36.8 Southwest_Russian
23.2 Russian_Smolensk
17.6 Kargopol_Russian
11.4 East_Finnish
3.8 Tatar
2.8 Finnish
1.6 Chuvash
1.6 Saudi
0.6 East_Greenlander
0.6 North_Amerindian

Target: Leto
Distance: 1.0189% / 1.01894090
35.6 Russian_Smolensk
24.4 Estonian
19.0 Erzya
6.6 Finnish
5.0 Chuvash
3.8 Saudi
1.4 Belorussian
1.4 North_Ossetian
1.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.8 Evens
0.8 Karitiana
0.2 North_Amerindian

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 06:02 PM
Macedonian and Greek samples with K13 Ancient ,ADC: 0.25x.

JohnnyP
01-01-2020, 08:32 PM
New K13 Ancient

dududud
01-01-2020, 08:43 PM
K13
My mother:
34.2 Sardinian
21.2 Macedonian_East
13.2 Trentino
11.0 Spanish_Valencia
8.0 Southeast_English
7.0 French_Basque
3.2 Romanian_Muntenia
1.4 Latvian
0.6 Dai
0.2 Swiss_Italian

7.86531627 Lombardy
9.33827607 Piedmont
10.23680614 Liguria
10.41617972 Veneto
10.56839628 Swiss-Italian
10.78751130 FrenchCorsica
10.82971837 Emilia
11.26680079 Trentino
11.34252617 Spanish_Andalucia
11.49943042 Tuscany
11.71505869 Swiss_Italian
11.93165118 Spanish_Valencia
11.94984937 Spanish_Extremadura
12.37286951 Portuguese
12.87676978 Spanish_Galicia
13.05376957 Spanish_Murcia
13.39741766 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
13.68666504 Friuli-VG
13.70275155 Spanish_Cataluna
13.86478272 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
14.09224964 Tuscan
14.31848106 Spanish_Cantabria
14.81780011 Romagna
15.07856426 Southwest_French
15.42143962 AostaValley

oszkar07
01-02-2020, 03:10 AM
New K13 Ancient
Distance to: Oszkar
7.31041039 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.70505678 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.99280301 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
8.30319216 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
8.74030320 DA194_Hungary_Scythian
8.97552227 Hallstatt_Celt_DA112_Bylany_Czechia
9.11989035 sz22_Longobard
9.25472312 SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.71985597 RISE431_Wielkopolska_Proto_Unetice_R1a_R1a
9.77170405 SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.89533223 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
10.61972222 SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard
10.77275731 SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard
10.89523290 SZ12_szolad_hungary_longobard
11.34916737 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
11.41380305 Albertsdedt_Germany_LN_M107790
11.73089511 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
12.30402373 SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard
12.69566068 CL92_collegno_italy_longobard
12.69964173 I0116_Unetice
12.73808070 RISE98_L_Beddinge_56_Sweden_3736_years_M_R_M405_K1 b1a
12.85770586 el_Miron
12.86096031 RISE436_Tiefbrunn_Germany_4124_years_M_CT_CTS3662_ N
13.01461102 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
13.07792797 SZ22_szolad_hungary_longobard

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.3086% / 2.30856558 | ADC: 0.5x
39.4 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
27.0 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.8 SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard
13.8 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
6.0 DA194_Hungary_Scythian

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.5915% / 1.59149976 | ADC: 0.25x
34.8 DA191_Hungary_Scythian_550_BC_550_bc
30.6 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.8 SZ25_szolad_hungary_longobard
14.2 BR2_Hungary_1200_BC
3.6 RISE569_Early_Medieval_Czech_2000_years_F_H1af2
0.8 HGDP00945_Yakut_Male_HGDP00945
0.8 MigrationPeriod_DA119_Slovakia_3750400_AD
0.4 RISE495_Arban_1_Russia_M_R_F3105_D4j1

Coastal Elite
01-02-2020, 03:22 AM
K13 Ancient

Distance to: DacoCeltic
3.87555157 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
5.33908232 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
5.46581193 SZ18_szolad_hungary_longobard
5.59180651 CL57_collegno_italy_longobard
5.90393936 CL47_collegno_italy_longobard
7.54110735 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.77728102 CL102_collegno_italy_longobard
8.39097730 CL49_collegno_italy_longobard
8.62076563 SZ45.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
8.89974719 I6582_Silesia_Bell_Beaker
9.06193136 SZ38_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.09155652 SZ23_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.22468428 SZ5.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.45439580 SZ3.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
9.57948328 DA199_Late_Medieval_Hungary
9.68032541 SZ24_szolad_hungary_longobard
10.44101528 SZ42_szolad_hungary_longobard
10.71721046 SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard
11.36645063 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
11.58973684 CrusaderSI39KingdomofJerusalem
11.96219461 sz22_Longobard
12.28570714 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
12.46339440 CL87_collegno_italy_longobard
12.56747389 I8206_iberia
12.70443230 I6581_Silesia_Bell_Beaker_R1b_R1b


Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.8756% / 3.87555157 | ADC: 2x
100.0 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.2854% / 3.28540940 | ADC: 1x
82.2 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
17.2 CL57_collegno_italy_longobard
0.6 SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 1.8979% / 1.89788007 | ADC: 0.5x
44.6 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
23.0 CL57_collegno_italy_longobard
17.0 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
15.4 SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 1.1865% / 1.18648738 | ADC: 0.25x
29.6 CL63_collegno_italy_longobard
20.8 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
17.8 SZ8_szolad_hungary_longobard
15.4 CL57_collegno_italy_longobard
13.6 SZ27_szolad_hungary_longobard
1.6 Polish_Bell_Beaker_I4253_Samborzec._Poland_2571022 08_BC
1.2 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.1827% / 0.18266801
11.0 Sope_r_Jabara_Estonia_Corded_Ware_culture_4575_435 0_F_H5a1
8.8 RISE254_Szazhalombatta_Foldvar_Hungary_3631_years_ GHIJK_Z12203_J1c9
8.6 SZ3.SG_szolad_hungary_longobard
7.6 IA_Castel_di_Decima_R1016
5.0 kzb003_srubno_alakulskaya_1773_1627BCE_M_R1a_R_Z94 _H
4.8 RISE174_Oxie_7_Sweden_1521_years_W1
4.8 SZ31_szolad_hungary_longobard
4.6 Chalcolithic_Age_Anatolian_Barcinhoyuk._Turkey_394 3_BC
3.6 Andronovo_RISE503_Russia_174601298_BC
3.4 Srubnaya_I0232_185001200_BC
2.8 CO1_Apc_Berekalja_I_Hungary_2700_2900_cal_BC
2.8 Kura_Araxes
2.8 RISE21_Karlstrup_Denmark_3092_years_N1a1a2
2.6 RISE564_Osterhofen_Altenmark_Germany_M_R_L51_HV
2.4 RISE523_Kapova_cave_Russia_3192_years_G2a1
2.2 grt035_Sigtuna_10-12_century
2.0 I0054_LBK
2.0 I1658_ArmeniaEBA
2.0 scy192_scythian_2863_2503bce
1.8 RISE499_Bystrovka_Russia_2000_years_F_H5a1
1.6 CL53_collegno_italy_longobard
1.4 RISE00_Sope_Estonia_2000_years_F_H5a1
1.2 scy301_scythian_Moldova_390_205bce
1.0 KLEI10_KLEI10_Kleitos_Greece_4230_3995calBCE_years _old_g2a_k1a2
1.0 SZ20_szolad_hungary_longobard
0.8 RISE175_Abekas_I_Sweden_3025_years_M_F_M235_T1a1
0.8 RISE42_Marbjerg_Denmark_3681_years_M_CT_CTS2711_H2 c1
0.6 84001_Sigtuna_10_12_century
0.6 Andronovo_RISE505_Russia
0.6 IA_Ardea_R851
0.6 XyH3_XyH3
0.4 Gyvakarai1_Lithuania_2620_2470_y_old
0.4 Kennewick_Man_Kennewick._Washington_state._USA
0.4 N36_Neolithic_Kujawy_Lengyel_BKG
0.4 stg026_Sigtuna
0.2 Andronovo_RISE500_Russia_174601298_BC
0.2 DA144_Ancient_Sarmatian_R1_R1
0.2 Donkalnis7_Lithuania_5460_4940_y_old
0.2 I0103_Corded_Ware_Germany
0.2 I0104_Corded_Ware_Germany
0.2 I0124_EHG_I0124_S
0.2 Karitiana_Male_II_Karitiana_Male_II
0.2 MJ12_Thraco_Kimmerian
0.2 RISE502_Bystrovka_Russia_3140_years_F_U5a1d
0.2 RISE505_Kytmanovo_Russia_3391_years_U4a1b
0.2 VEK009_Velikent_Kura_Araxes_4850_J1_z1842_U4a2
0.2 Yak_Bab_Yak_Bab
0.2 YamnayaKaragash_EBA_Yamnaya

andre
01-02-2020, 10:27 AM
Distance to: Andre_K13

5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.72958973 Serbian_new
6.00030833 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
6.24445856 Macedonian
6.47237572 Montenegrin
6.50719602 Serb_Croatia
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
7.17518474 Bosnian
7.20484559 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.60535338 Romanian_Transylvania
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.88712162 Serbian_Bosnia
7.91163700 Macedonian_Northwest
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.29426911 Romanian_Botosani
8.41437461 Croat_Split
8.43411525 Szekely
9.06705575 Macedonian_East
9.56461349 North_Macedonian
9.60763238 Macedonian_North
9.83250222 Csango_Gymes
10.15001385 Croat_Bosnia
10.19262969 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.79834247 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster

Ikol
01-02-2020, 10:42 AM
30.8 Macedonian_North
13.8 Polish
8.2 Latvian
7.8 Trentino
7.8 Swiss_German
7.2 Serb_North-Macedonia
6.2 German_east
6.0 Macedonian_Southwest
4.4 Sardinia
3.2 Welsh
1.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.8 French_Basque
0.6 Karitiana
0.4 German_West
0.4 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
0.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
0.2 Dai
0.2 Papuan

Target: boris
Distance: 1.0338% / 1.03378916 | ADC: 0.25x
72.4 Croat_Split
18.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.8 Southwest_French
1.6 Sardinian
0.2 Mayan



Distance to: boris
4.24166241 Croat_Split
4.24447877 Serb_Croatia
4.42914213 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
4.62073416 Serbian_new
5.04027653 Serbian_Bosnia
6.02725321 Croat_Bosnia
6.04534097 Montenegrin
6.10429357 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.11548036 Szekely
6.27197864 Bosnian
6.27346794 Romanian_Transylvania
6.31355684 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
6.64216079 Csango_Gymes
6.66823815 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
8.01225662 Slovenian
8.11459796 Romanian_Oltenia
8.16013480 South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster
8.38300066 Moldavian
8.38896502 Macedonian
8.65612500 Romanian_Botosani
9.02444458 Macedonian_Northwest
9.50795982 Bosniak_Tuzla
9.51789367 Hungarian
9.67838313 Romanian_Muntenia
9.89576677 Croatian


I dont think this is accruate xD Can anyone confirm this. WHy split

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-02-2020, 10:43 AM
Eurogenes K13 updated spreadsheet



Target: Viriato
Distance: 1.0681% / 1.06805136 | ADC: 0.25x
43.2 Portuguese
27.2 Spanish_Andalucia
16.4 Piedmont
10.2 AostaValley
1.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
1.2 Serb_North-Macedonia
0.4 Nogay
0.2 Dolgan

Distance to: Viriato
3.23292437 Portuguese
3.93624186 Spanish_Extremadura
4.88668599 Spanish_Galicia
5.04575069 Spanish_Murcia
5.26206233 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
5.60081244 Swiss-Italian
5.65020354 Spanish_Andalucia
5.68664224 Spanish_Cataluna
6.00774500 Spanish_Valencia
6.37721726 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.80600470 Piedmont
7.19443535 Swiss_Italian
7.46456295 AostaValley
8.11696988 Spanish_Cantabria
8.20635729 Lombardy
8.46095148 Trentino
8.49180193 Veneto
9.89720162 Spanish_Aragon
10.18237202 Liguria
10.28382225 Southwest_French
10.42528177 Friuli-VG
11.19542317 Emilia
11.36765587 French
12.18064038 Swiss_French
12.72202028 Tuscany

Ylla
01-02-2020, 12:10 PM
Gedmatch has removed my sample (it says sample not found). Anyone else had this happen to them? Probably for the best ;)

dududud
01-02-2020, 01:13 PM
K15
4.68215762 France-South
5.04739537 Spanish_Cataluna
5.44698082 Portuguese
5.47397479 Spanish_Galicia
6.32907576 Italy_Aostavalley
6.57997720 Italy_Piedmont
6.90081879 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.18581241 Spanish_Extremadura
7.73146817 Spanish_Murcia
8.02949563 Spanish_Cantabria
9.21497151 French
9.61870573 Italy_Trentino
9.62623499 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
9.62930942 Spanish_Valencia
10.05040298 Italy_Veneto
10.22291054 Italy_Lombardy
10.34231115 Spanish_Andalucia
10.44685120 Southwest_French
10.87338954 North_Italian
11.08951306 Spanish_Aragon
11.84721486 Italy_Friuli
11.91444082 Austria-Tyrol
12.73877545 Italy_Liguria
13.88527277 German_Bavarian
14.73262366 South_Dutch

26.6 Orcadian
25.4 Italy_Aostavalley
25.4 Sardinian
10.6 French_Basque
4.8 Southwest_English
2.8 West_Norwegian
2.0 Abhkasian
1.2 Turkish_Trabzon
1.0 Dai
0.2 Georgian_Laz

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
01-02-2020, 01:16 PM
Gedmatch has removed my sample (it says sample not found). Anyone else had this happen to them? Probably for the best ;)

GEDmatch was sold to a new company (Verogen). GEDmatch users were required to accept the site’s new terms and conditions if they wanted to access their data, otherwise their data would be deleted. You will have to upload your raw data again if you want to use it.

Dušan
01-02-2020, 04:43 PM
K13 ancient

https://i.imgur.com/WUzPfNh.jpg




















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When I use only medieval Russian and Thracian.

https://i.imgur.com/9SEdtR1.jpg








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Lucas
01-02-2020, 05:01 PM
Added to Dodecad K12b modern regional Italian breakdown:)

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm

JohnnyP
01-02-2020, 05:46 PM
Dodecad K12b

Target: johnnyp
Distance: 0.1971% / 0.19706938
28.6 Greek
13.8 Italy_Trentino
12.6 Belorussian
8.4 Lithuanians
7.8 Finnish
4.8 Abhkasians
4.6 Hungarians
4.2 Sardinian
3.4 Bulgarian
2.8 German
2.0 Albanian_Kosovo
2.0 Greek_Cappadocia
1.2 French
1.2 Laz
0.8 Pais_Vasco
0.4 Assyrian
0.4 Georgian_Gurian
0.2 Bosnian
0.2 Cambodians
0.2 Dai
0.2 Nganassan
0.2 Selkup

Cumansky
01-02-2020, 07:04 PM
Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 2.6209% / 2.62085778
55.6 Latvian
26.2 Macedonian_East
7.0 Southeast_English
5.6 Finnish
4.0 Swedish
0.6 Karitiana
0.6 Lebanese_Druze
0.4 Moroccan_Jew

Target: Cumansky_Father
Distance: 3.5844% / 3.58444301 | ADC: 0.25x
32.6 Bosniak_Tuzla
22.4 South_Polish
15.8 Latvian
9.6 Southwest_Russian
9.0 Finnish
5.2 Polish
3.4 Lithuanian
2.0 Ukrainian

Cumansky
01-02-2020, 07:05 PM
Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 4.3005% / 4.30054612
69.0 Latvian
18.0 Macedonian_East
4.2 Yemenite_Jewish
2.6 Sardinian
2.2 Algerian_Jewish
2.2 Yoruban
1.8 Moroccan_Jew

Target: Cumansky_Mother
Distance: 5.5923% / 5.59230313 | ADC: 0.25x
46.2 Southwest_Russian
30.2 Latvian
13.2 Bosniak_Tuzla
10.4 Tunisian

Cumansky
01-02-2020, 07:06 PM
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 3.2389% / 3.23894964
60.4 Latvian
24.0 Macedonian_East
7.0 Finnish
6.4 Moroccan_Jew
1.4 Spanish_Valencia
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: Cumansky
Distance: 4.3215% / 4.32154860 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Bosniak_Tuzla
28.2 Latvian
20.8 Southwest_Russian
1.0 East_Finnish
1.0 Yemenite_Jewish

Saint-Glinglin
01-02-2020, 07:31 PM
Added to Dodecad K12b modern regional Italian breakdown:)

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm

Distance to: sgg_k12b
7.56445005 Italy_Aosta_Valley
8.29624614 French
9.01481004 French
11.07506749 Italy_Trentino
11.18700586 Cataluna
11.31233895 Swiss_Italian
11.49569920 Baleares
12.02667452 Galicia
12.69309655 Extremadura
12.72678671 Spaniards
13.63719253 Italy_Piedmont
13.89668369 Italy_Lombardy
13.91592972 Castilla_Y_Leon
13.98291100 Portuguese
14.12801118 Spanish
14.21898792 Italy_Veneto
14.23099083 Cantabria
14.77498223 Valencia
14.99145343 Italy_FriuliVG
15.68588856 Castilla_La_Mancha
15.80522382 Murcia
16.08241586 Aragon
16.23582151 Andalucia
16.63850024 Italy_Liguria
16.83968824 Mixed_Germanic

Target: sgg_k12b
Distance: 3.2771% / 3.27705363 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 French
23.2 Valencia
17.8 Italy_Aosta_Valley
4.2 Abhkasians

It's rather consistant with the other updates (k13 & k15).

altaic
01-02-2020, 07:42 PM
Can someone copy all the available sources here? I can not login http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ IP from work unfortunately. (Source: Poland IP)
However, I can login to https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ without an issue.

Lucas
01-02-2020, 08:29 PM
Can someone copy all the available sources here? I can not login http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ IP from work unfortunately. (Source: Poland IP)
However, I can login to https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ without an issue.

So what error you see? Everyone can open except you today. Also there isn't any login needed. Maybe you are using G25 coordinates?

Coastal Elite
01-02-2020, 08:50 PM
Dodecad K12b modern


Distance to: DacoCeltic
9.74657209 Italy_Aosta_Valley
10.48455912 Italy_Trentino
11.58557448 Italy_FriuliVG
11.90023109 French
11.97298626 French
12.24634895 Swiss_Italian
12.83962616 Mixed_Germanic
12.85248225 Bosnian
13.18899001 Italy_Veneto
13.24145007 German
13.87832825 Italy_Piedmont
14.87756701 Dutch
14.96816622 Hungarians
15.54222756 Italy_Lombardy
15.92242758 Kent
16.39402330 CEU30
16.55376090 English
17.50769026 Italy_Liguria
17.78441146 Italy_Emilia
17.79685365 Cornwall
17.81200999 Albanian_North
17.89787697 Romanians
18.01898998 British_Isles
18.46304417 British
18.68348469 Albanian_Kosovo

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.2578% / 3.25775041 | ADC: 0.5x
48.0 Italy_Aosta_Valley
28.0 Bosnian
24.0 Mixed_Germanic

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 2.2489% / 2.24893087 | ADC: 0.25x
37.0 Italy_Aosta_Valley
36.2 Mixed_Germanic
17.2 Bosnian
5.0 Italy_Trentino
3.6 Adygei
1.0 Nogais

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.2504% / 0.25041434
22.2 British_Isles
13.8 French_Basque
12.2 Abhkasians
10.6 Lithuanian
8.8 Polish
8.0 CEU30
4.6 Romanians
4.4 Sardinian
4.0 German
3.6 Mixed_Germanic
3.4 Pais_Vasco
3.2 Georgian_Imereti
0.8 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Pulliyar

Lucas
01-02-2020, 08:58 PM
Dodecad K12b modern


Distance to: DacoCeltic
9.74657209 Italy_Aosta_Valley
10.48455912 Italy_Trentino
11.58557448 Italy_FriuliVG
11.90023109 French
11.97298626 French
12.24634895 Swiss_Italian
12.83962616 Mixed_Germanic
12.85248225 Bosnian
13.18899001 Italy_Veneto
13.24145007 German
13.87832825 Italy_Piedmont
14.87756701 Dutch
14.96816622 Hungarians
15.54222756 Italy_Lombardy
15.92242758 Kent
16.39402330 CEU30
16.55376090 English
17.50769026 Italy_Liguria
17.78441146 Italy_Emilia
17.79685365 Cornwall
17.81200999 Albanian_North
17.89787697 Romanians
18.01898998 British_Isles
18.46304417 British
18.68348469 Albanian_Kosovo

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 3.2578% / 3.25775041 | ADC: 0.5x
48.0 Italy_Aosta_Valley
28.0 Bosnian
24.0 Mixed_Germanic

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 2.2489% / 2.24893087 | ADC: 0.25x
37.0 Italy_Aosta_Valley
36.2 Mixed_Germanic
17.2 Bosnian
5.0 Italy_Trentino
3.6 Adygei
1.0 Nogais

Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.2504% / 0.25041434
22.2 British_Isles
13.8 French_Basque
12.2 Abhkasians
10.6 Lithuanian
8.8 Polish
8.0 CEU30
4.6 Romanians
4.4 Sardinian
4.0 German
3.6 Mixed_Germanic
3.4 Pais_Vasco
3.2 Georgian_Imereti
0.8 Japanese
0.2 JPT30
0.2 Pulliyar

Usually you have south German midpoint. Aosta is something new?

Hapanuwa
01-02-2020, 09:39 PM
Dodecad k12b updated


Distance to: Hapanuwa
3.96929465 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.70936949 Turk_Southwest
5.81940719 Turk_Northwest
6.04110917 Turk_Central_West
6.31676341 Turk_Anatolia
7.89441575 Turk_South
8.33671398 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.55150864 Turk_Central_East
9.32732545 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.06895724 Yoruk
10.44620984 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
11.12416289 Turk_Southeast
12.12288332 Greek_Crete
13.26804055 Azerbaijani
13.31683521 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.35203637 Italy_Apulia
14.68382103 Turk_East
14.91266576 Ashkenazy_Jews
15.03411454 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.18449942 Italy_Calabria
15.34093429 Italy_Sicily
15.81096771 Greek_Cappadocia
16.06980709 Ashkenazi
16.43343439 Italy_Campania
16.92327810 Italy_Abruzzo



Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 3.9693% / 3.96929465 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Turk_West_BlackSea

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 2.6364% / 2.63643264 | ADC: 0.5x
89.0 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.6 Ashkenazy_Jews
2.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
1.0 Dai
0.2 CDX30

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.5735% / 1.57347922 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Turk_West_BlackSea
13.4 Ashkenazy_Jews
5.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
2.6 KHV30
2.2 Balkars
0.2 Samaritians

Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 0.0473% / 0.04729750
3.2 Cypriots
3.0 Samaritians
2.8 Ashkenazi
2.6 Sephardic_Jews
2.4 Italy_Abruzzo
2.2 Balkars
2.2 Greek_Pontus
2.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.0 Azerbaijan_Jews
2.0 Greek_Cappadocia
2.0 Iraq_Jews
1.6 Bulgarians
1.6 Druze
1.6 Georgian_Imereti
1.6 Iranian_Jews
1.6 Kumyks
1.4 Adygei
1.4 Armenian_West
1.4 Bulgarian
1.4 Castilla_Y_Leon
1.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
1.4 Georgian_Adjara
1.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.4 Hemshin
1.2 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Georgian_Svan
1.2 Greek
1.2 Italy_Liguria
1.2 Italy_Lazio
1.2 Italy_Calabria
1.2 North_Ossetians
1.2 Turk_Central_East
1.0 Abhkasians
1.0 Ashkenazy_Jews
1.0 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
1.0 Greek_Crete
1.0 Nogais
1.0 Turk_Southwest
0.8 Albanian_Kosovo
0.8 Albanian_North
0.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
0.8 Bedouin
0.8 Georgian_Turkey
0.8 Hungarians
0.8 France_Corsica
0.8 Nusayri_Turkey
0.8 Russian_B
0.8 Turk_West_BlackSea
0.8 Turk_East
0.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
0.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
0.6 Cambodians
0.6 Chechens
0.6 CHS30
0.6 Circassian
0.6 Georgian_Gurian
0.6 Han
0.6 Italy_Piedmont
0.6 Italy_Romagna
0.6 Japanese
0.6 Laz
0.6 Lithuanian
0.6 Nganassan
0.6 Turk_Ahiska
0.6 Turk_Central_West
0.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
0.6 Yoruk
0.4 Altai
0.4 Aragon
0.4 Belorussian
0.4 Buryat
0.4 Chuvashs
0.4 Daur
0.4 Dolgan
0.4 Evenk
0.4 Finnish
0.4 Garo
0.4 Iranian
0.4 Italy_Veneto
0.4 Kurd
0.4 Lahu
0.4 Lebanese
0.4 Lezgins
0.4 MAS30
0.4 Mordovians
0.4 Oroqen
0.4 Russian
0.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.4 Tujia
0.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.4 Turk_Southeast
0.4 Ukranians
0.4 Yemen_Jews
0.2 Armenian_East
0.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Baleares
0.2 Bosnian
0.2 Cataluna
0.2 CDX30
0.2 CHB30
0.2 Chinese
0.2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
0.2 Dai
0.2 Dhurwa
0.2 Dutch
0.2 French
0.2 Gadaba
0.2 Galicia
0.2 Gond
0.2 Hezhen
0.2 Iran_Central_East
0.2 Swiss_Italian
0.2 Italy_Aosta_Valley
0.2 Italy_Lombardy
0.2 Italy_Tuscany
0.2 Italy_Apulia
0.2 Kharia
0.2 KHV30
0.2 Korean
0.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
0.2 Lithuanians
0.2 Mixed_Slav
0.2 Mongol
0.2 Mongola
0.2 Palestinian
0.2 Polish
0.2 Romanians
0.2 Russian
0.2 Sardinian
0.2 Saudis
0.2 Swedish
0.2 Tajiks
0.2 Turk_Anatolia
0.2 Turk_Northwest
0.2 Yizu

Coastal Elite
01-02-2020, 09:47 PM
Usually you have south German midpoint. Aosta is something new?

I get Aosta Valley sometimes. It's an outlier for Northern Italy, more French or Germanic or something.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?307780-Aosta-Valley-more-Central-European-than-Provence

Kaspias
01-02-2020, 10:07 PM
Bulgarians, Pomaks and Turks.


Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88, 0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2. 69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1 .27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11 ,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24. 65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0 ,0
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1 .12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0
Bulgarian_Central,23.19,22.39,17.70,8.96,20.02,3.7 1,0.87,0,1.54,1.62,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Haskovo,20.45,23.47,21.57,10.51,19.54,0. 61,0,0,2.14,0.75,0.88,0.06,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2 .86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95 ,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.3 9,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31 ,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3. 15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36, 0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1. 85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33 ,0,1.08,0,0.13
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07, 0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0 ,0.49,1.13,0,0,0
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0, 0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76, 0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.8 0,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0. 25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer,15.65,18.37,15.33,17.42,17.18,3.97,0,3 .47,7.75,0.47,0,0.4,0
Turk_Xanthi,17.64,19.53,13.78,14.43,25.22,2.09,0,1 .91,3.70,0.16,0.61,0,0
Turk_Komotini,14.83,18.25,12.70,15.92,22.85,2.77,1 .68,1.92,6.80,0.87,0.46,0,0.95
Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain,14.6,18.22,12.61,16.66,21.62,4.36,0.63,2.34, 8.17,0.34,0,0.42,0.04
Turk_N-Macedonia,19.62,26.16,14.14,12.18,18.91,2.55,2.33, 1.13,2.05,0.67,0.04,0.21,0
Turk_Thessaloniki,19.29,19.58,17.35,12.55,26.1,1.9 7,0,0.51,1.38,0.94,0,0,0.32
Turk_Stara-Zagora,21.7,18.28,14.13,15.26,19.21,4.15,1.27,0.54 ,4.73,0.58,0,0.14,0
Turk_Edirne,13.92,14.66,16.81,19.56,20.22,2.35,3.0 4,3.03,5.28,0.53,0.53,0.07,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi,17.75,17.11,15.37,21.97,16.46,0.9,0.12,4.61, 5.19,0,0,0,0.53
Turk_Kazanlik,20.10,16.93,17.68,11.70,22.85,1.50,2 .76,1.72,3.09,0.72,0.59,0.37,0
Turk_Burgas,19.03,11.49,14.52,19.18,23.94,3.15,1.3 2,2.12,4.28,0.44,0,0.16,0.37
Turk_Kavala,22.02,18.10,16.46,14.95,20.83,1.60,0,1 .12,2.06,0.27,0.21,0,0.12
Turk_Sliven-Alevi,20.29,20.76,14.36,19.19,13.55,2.51,2.98,2.70 ,1.95,1.38,0,0,0.33
Turk_Crete,15.92,13.82,17.01,15.12,26.39,4.34,0,1. 98,2.4,0.21,0.19,1.76,0.87
Turk_Drama,17.20,22.87,15.61,15.52,19.94,1.52,1.62 ,2.76,1.90,0.27,0.26,0.19,0.34
Turk_Dobrich,18.15,22.61,15.49,12.65,18.85,4.32,2. 72,2.17,0.35,1.73,0,0.59,0.38
Turk_Razgrad,21.27,22.84,14.09,12.92,19.33,1.03,2. 24,2.57,2.24,0.25,0.12,0,1.10
Turk_Alexandroupoli,21.94,16.43,16.91,13.31,23.54, 4.30,0,0.35,2.08,0.99,0,0.13,0
Turk_Targovishte,20.17,18.88,12.05,14.29,22.67,2.6 1,1.15,3.42,3.38,0.61,0.77,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-West,16.43,21.01,14.99,15.94,16.79,3.94,3.41,3.15, 3.24,0.79,0.31,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-East,21.29,16.80,14.74,14.36,18.50,2.29,0.23,1.80, 5.40,2.55,1.10,0.66,0.29
Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33

andre
01-02-2020, 10:12 PM
Distance to: K13
4.18683651 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.90885934 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.52255376 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.72958973 Serbian_new
6.00030833 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
6.24445856 Macedonian
6.47237572 Montenegrin
6.50719602 Serb_Croatia
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
6.82049852 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.94674744 Turk_N-Macedonia
7.17518474 Bosnian
7.20484559 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.60535338 Romanian_Transylvania
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.76006443 Bulgarian_Central
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.88712162 Serbian_Bosnia
7.91163700 Macedonian_Northwest
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.29426911 Romanian_Botosani
8.36671979 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
8.41437461 Croat_Split
8.41821240 Bulgarian_Southwest

Impaler
01-02-2020, 10:18 PM
Distance to: Impaler
6.90446233 Turk_Kazanlik
7.22497751 Turk_Razgrad
7.22507439 Turk_Targovishte
7.40196596 Turk_Kavala
7.48050800 Turk_Stara-Zagora
8.18026283 Turk_Alexandroupoli
8.28440704 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.40571234 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.58049532 Macedonian_Southeast
8.71612299 Turk_Kardzhali-East
8.82981880 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
8.94314262 Greek_Central-Macedonia
9.07233707 Bulgarian_Burgas
9.34111342 Turk_Dobrich
9.42464323 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
9.47211698 Bulgarian_Southwest
9.51741562 Pomak_Drama
9.52382801 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
9.52994753 Bulgarian_Central
9.62560290 North_Macedonian
9.62869605 Kosovo_Albanian
9.69687579 Turk_Thessaloniki
9.74325408 Turk_Xanthi
9.76831613 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
10.09881181 Pomak_Nevrokopi

Impaler
01-02-2020, 10:30 PM
Distance to: K13
4.18683651 Bulgarian_Pleven
4.90885934 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.25476926 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
5.52255376 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.72958973 Serbian_new
6.00030833 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
6.24445856 Macedonian
6.47237572 Montenegrin
6.50719602 Serb_Croatia
6.80810546 Romanian_Oltenia
6.82049852 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
6.94674744 Turk_N-Macedonia
7.17518474 Bosnian
7.20484559 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.60535338 Romanian_Transylvania
7.71079114 Bulgarian
7.76006443 Bulgarian_Central
7.82883133 Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
7.88712162 Serbian_Bosnia
7.91163700 Macedonian_Northwest
8.23652232 Romanian_Muntenia
8.29426911 Romanian_Botosani
8.36671979 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
8.41437461 Croat_Split
8.41821240 Bulgarian_Southwest

Bro, no Turk for you? It seems like Baiazid I is one of my "fathers". :lmao

Kaspias
01-02-2020, 10:34 PM
Distance to: FTDNA
3.36425326 Turk_Komotini
3.87498387 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
6.71866802 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
7.25914596 Turk_Kardzhali-West
7.71193231 Turk_Stara-Zagora
7.72999353 Turk_Drama
8.45941487 Pomak_Drama
8.48067804 Turk_Kardzhali-East
9.20743178 Turk_Razgrad
9.39252362 Turk_Dobrich
9.42547612 Turk_Edirne
9.59017727 Pomak_Komotini
9.85007107 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.98820805 Turk_Kazanlik
10.11377279 Turk_Kavala
10.54157483 Macedonian_Southeast
10.80916741 Turk_Thessaloniki
10.96909142 GR_Macedonia
11.09231716 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
11.11358178 Pomak_Nevrokopi
11.11791347 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.16487910 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.19363212 Macedonian_Greece
11.43537931 Turk_Crete
11.64255986 Turk_Burgas


Distance to: 23andMe
5.85948803 Turk_Xanthi
6.22560037 Turk_Komotini
7.58321172 Turk_Targovishte
7.62603436 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
8.34092321 Pomak_Drama
8.63572232 Turk_Drama
8.86670175 Turk_Thessaloniki
9.18457402 Turk_Dobrich
9.56970263 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.67972107 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.74955384 Pomak_Komotini
9.75042050 Turk_Razgrad
9.83455134 Turk_Kazanlik
9.86634177 Macedonian_Greece
10.02340594 GR_Macedonia
10.02372685 Turk_Kardzhali-West
10.46229420 Turk_Stara-Zagora
10.56396706 Pomak_Nevrokopi
10.58694007 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.65409311 Pomak_Xanthi
10.78325554 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
10.83836704 Turk_Crete
10.99749972 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.03691533 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.08176881 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer



Target: FTDNA
Distance: 1.6722% / 1.67215164 | ADC: 0.25x
67.4 Turk_Komotini
10.0 Pomak_Drama
9.4 Pomak_Kavala
7.4 Turk_Dobruja-Tatar
5.8 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 2.3487% / 2.34872546 | ADC: 0.5x
74.4 Turk_Komotini
8.0 Pomak_Drama
6.0 Pomak_Kavala
4.8 Turk_Kardzhali-West
3.2 Turk_Dobruja-Tatar
2.4 Turk_Razgrad
1.2 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 3.3627% / 3.36274859 | ADC: 1x
85.8 Turk_Komotini
10.0 Turk_Kardzhali-West
4.2 Turk_Drama

Target: FTDNA
Distance: 4.0023% / 4.00227435 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_Komotini



Target: 23andMe
Distance: 2.8183% / 2.81830238 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Turk_Komotini
47.4 Pomak_Xanthi
2.4 Karakalpak

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 3.1567% / 3.15669783 | ADC: 0.5x
68.8 Turk_Komotini
31.2 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 3.7135% / 3.71346043 | ADC: 1x
78.4 Turk_Komotini
21.6 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 6.2256% / 6.22560037 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_Komotini

Impaler
01-02-2020, 10:35 PM
Distance to: FTDNA
3.36425326 Turk_Komotini
3.87498387 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
6.71866802 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
7.25914596 Turk_Kardzhali-West
7.71193231 Turk_Stara-Zagora
7.72999353 Turk_Drama
8.45941487 Pomak_Drama
8.48067804 Turk_Kardzhali-East
9.20743178 Turk_Razgrad
9.39252362 Turk_Dobrich
9.42547612 Turk_Edirne
9.59017727 Pomak_Komotini
9.85007107 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.98820805 Turk_Kazanlik
10.11377279 Turk_Kavala
10.54157483 Macedonian_Southeast
10.80916741 Turk_Thessaloniki
10.96909142 GR_Macedonia
11.09231716 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
11.11358178 Pomak_Nevrokopi
11.11791347 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.16487910 Bulgarian_Thrace
11.19363212 Macedonian_Greece
11.43537931 Turk_Crete
11.64255986 Turk_Burgas


Distance to: 23andMe
5.85948803 Turk_Xanthi
6.22560037 Turk_Komotini
7.58321172 Turk_Targovishte
7.62603436 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
8.34092321 Pomak_Drama
8.63572232 Turk_Drama
8.86670175 Turk_Thessaloniki
9.18457402 Turk_Dobrich
9.56970263 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.67972107 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.74955384 Pomak_Komotini
9.75042050 Turk_Razgrad
9.83455134 Turk_Kazanlik
9.86634177 Macedonian_Greece
10.02340594 GR_Macedonia
10.02372685 Turk_Kardzhali-West
10.46229420 Turk_Stara-Zagora
10.56396706 Pomak_Nevrokopi
10.58694007 Greek_Northern-Thrace
10.65409311 Pomak_Xanthi
10.78325554 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
10.83836704 Turk_Crete
10.99749972 Greek_Thessaloniki
11.03691533 Turk_Alexandroupoli
11.08176881 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer



Target: FTDNA
Distance: 1.6722% / 1.67215164 | ADC: 0.25x
67.4 Turk_Komotini
10.0 Pomak_Drama
9.4 Pomak_Kavala
7.4 Turk_Dobruja-Tatar
5.8 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 2.3487% / 2.34872546 | ADC: 0.5x
74.4 Turk_Komotini
8.0 Pomak_Drama
6.0 Pomak_Kavala
4.8 Turk_Kardzhali-West
3.2 Turk_Dobruja-Tatar
2.4 Turk_Razgrad
1.2 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 3.3627% / 3.36274859 | ADC: 1x
85.8 Turk_Komotini
10.0 Turk_Kardzhali-West
4.2 Turk_Drama

Target: FTDNA
Distance: 4.0023% / 4.00227435 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_Komotini



Target: 23andMe
Distance: 2.8183% / 2.81830238 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Turk_Komotini
47.4 Pomak_Xanthi
2.4 Karakalpak

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 3.1567% / 3.15669783 | ADC: 0.5x
68.8 Turk_Komotini
31.2 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 3.7135% / 3.71346043 | ADC: 1x
78.4 Turk_Komotini
21.6 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: 23andMe
Distance: 6.2256% / 6.22560037 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_Komotini

Which one do you find more accurate? Which raw data? 23andMe or FTDNA?

Kaspias
01-02-2020, 10:38 PM
Which one do you find more accurate? Which raw data? 23andMe or FTDNA?

I trust FTDNA more. But it extremely shifts me to my father.

PT Tagus
01-02-2020, 10:41 PM
Dodecad K12b updated spreadsheet


https://i.imgur.com/xj5GFm8.png


ADC 0.25x, 0.5x, 1x, 2x

https://i.imgur.com/aDasT0L.png


https://i.imgur.com/MTCWIDG.png

Impaler
01-02-2020, 10:43 PM
I trust FTDNA more. But it extremely shifts me to my father.

How much Mongoloid your father would have? Maybe 12-15%?

Kaspias
01-02-2020, 11:02 PM
How much Mongoloid your father would have? Maybe 12-15%?

I think around 13%. It is certain in the 12-16 range. I expect something like that:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.29
2 North_Atlantic 17.04
3 West_Asian 17.02
4 Baltic 16.29
5 West_Med 10.51
6 Siberian 10.45
7 South_Asian 3.57
8 Red_Sea 3.4
9 East_Asian 2.3
10 Amerindian 0.13

And when i run it:

Distance to: f
5.88509133 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
6.81931082 Turk_Komotini
7.49048063 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
9.15285201 Turk_Stara-Zagora
9.40684857 Turk_Edirne
9.46791952 Turk_Kardzhali-East
9.81310348 Turk_Targovishte
10.18296617 Turk_Kardzhali-West
10.42887818 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
10.62323868 Turk_Burgas
11.13427591 Turk_Xanthi
12.36504751 Turk_Drama
12.56912885 Turk_Kavala
12.57950714 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
12.71862021 Turk_Kazanlik
12.90445659 Turk_Razgrad
13.53682016 Pomak_Drama
13.60099261 Turk_Alexandroupoli
13.64022361 Turk_Crete
13.76658273 Macedonian_Southeast
13.85329203 Turk_Dobrich
14.43199224 Greek_Istanbul
14.45443876 Bulgarian_Burgas
14.65773175 Pomak_Komotini
14.67468909 Turk_N-Macedonia

Target: f
Distance: 2.5457% / 2.54574914 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Turk_Komotini
12.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
7.6 Turk_Kardzhali-East
5.0 Scottish
2.6 Tadjik
2.4 Dolgan

Target: f
Distance: 3.9239% / 3.92391360 | ADC: 0.5x
61.0 Turk_Komotini
18.6 Turk_Kardzhali-East
6.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.2 Afghan_Turkmen
6.0 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

Target: f
Distance: 6.0363% / 6.03626976 | ADC: 1x
70.0 Turk_Komotini
28.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
1.8 Crimean_Tatar

Target: f
Distance: 6.6863% / 6.68629448 | ADC: 2x
95.4 Turk_Komotini
4.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer

Impaler
01-02-2020, 11:09 PM
I think around 13%. It is certain in the 12-16 range. I expect something like that:


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.29
2 North_Atlantic 17.04
3 West_Asian 17.02
4 Baltic 16.29
5 West_Med 10.51
6 Siberian 10.45
7 South_Asian 3.57
8 Red_Sea 3.4
9 East_Asian 2.3
10 Amerindian 0.13

And when i run it:

Distance to: f
5.88509133 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
6.81931082 Turk_Komotini
7.49048063 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
9.15285201 Turk_Stara-Zagora
9.40684857 Turk_Edirne
9.46791952 Turk_Kardzhali-East
9.81310348 Turk_Targovishte
10.18296617 Turk_Kardzhali-West
10.42887818 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
10.62323868 Turk_Burgas
11.13427591 Turk_Xanthi
12.36504751 Turk_Drama
12.56912885 Turk_Kavala
12.57950714 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
12.71862021 Turk_Kazanlik
12.90445659 Turk_Razgrad
13.53682016 Pomak_Drama
13.60099261 Turk_Alexandroupoli
13.64022361 Turk_Crete
13.76658273 Macedonian_Southeast
13.85329203 Turk_Dobrich
14.43199224 Greek_Istanbul
14.45443876 Bulgarian_Burgas
14.65773175 Pomak_Komotini
14.67468909 Turk_N-Macedonia

Target: f
Distance: 2.5457% / 2.54574914 | ADC: 0.25x
70.0 Turk_Komotini
12.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
7.6 Turk_Kardzhali-East
5.0 Scottish
2.6 Tadjik
2.4 Dolgan

Target: f
Distance: 3.9239% / 3.92391360 | ADC: 0.5x
61.0 Turk_Komotini
18.6 Turk_Kardzhali-East
6.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.2 Afghan_Turkmen
6.0 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

Target: f
Distance: 6.0363% / 6.03626976 | ADC: 1x
70.0 Turk_Komotini
28.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
1.8 Crimean_Tatar

Target: f
Distance: 6.6863% / 6.68629448 | ADC: 2x
95.4 Turk_Komotini
4.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer

That's a lot! Thracian has barely 3%. Your father is a Balkan Turk but his Mongoloid is higher than many Turkish from Anatolia. That is very interesting.

Leto
01-02-2020, 11:13 PM
That's a lot! Thracian has barely 3%. Your father is a Balkan Turk but his Mongoloid is higher than many Turkish from Anatolia. That is very interesting.
I agree. I didn't even think such people existed in Bulgaria. I mean Tatarstan is much more Eastern and even there many Tatars are below 20% Mongoloid. I think 13-15% can in many cases be visible phenotypically.

Kaspias
01-02-2020, 11:38 PM
That's a lot! Thracian has barely 3%. Your father is a Balkan Turk but his Mongoloid is higher than many Turkish from Anatolia. That is very interesting.

It is a bit more than the regional average, which is 10%. Southern part of Kardzhali and the mountainous area of Komotini, Eastern Rhodopes has the highest East Eurasian scores in the Balkans except for Dobruja Tatars.

The more interesting thing from my perspective is having Q-L330 despite not having a Tatar background. When i checked last time there was no single Q-L330 in Anatolian & Balkan Turks.

JohnnyP
01-02-2020, 11:58 PM
Updated K13 Eurogenes
Target: JohhnyP
Distance: 0.2694% / 0.26939861
28.0 Greek_Northern-Thrace
15.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
12.6 Belorussian
10.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.4 Pomak_Xanthi
6.4 Macedonian_Greece
6.0 Latvian
4.6 Greek_Istanbul
4.0 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
1.4 Norwegian
0.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
0.6 South_Polish
0.2 Greek_Chios
0.2 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Papuan

JohnnyP
01-03-2020, 12:24 AM
Macedonian ,Bulgarian and Greek on K13 Ancient Eurogenes.
94247

Lafaur
01-03-2020, 03:52 AM
Puerto Rican Amerindian
Taína,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2.70,3.95,4.53,84.62,1.77,1. 95,0.48
Anzick-1 Paleo-Indian
Clovis,0.95,0.14,0.07,3.52,0,0,0,0,0,1.63,4.57,88. 51,0.34,0.27,0

bained
01-03-2020, 04:03 AM
Bulgarians, Pomaks and Turks.


Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88, 0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2. 69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1 .27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11 ,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24. 65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0 ,0
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1 .12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0
Bulgarian_Central,23.19,22.39,17.70,8.96,20.02,3.7 1,0.87,0,1.54,1.62,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Haskovo,20.45,23.47,21.57,10.51,19.54,0. 61,0,0,2.14,0.75,0.88,0.06,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2 .86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95 ,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.3 9,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31 ,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3. 15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36, 0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1. 85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33 ,0,1.08,0,0.13
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07, 0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0 ,0.49,1.13,0,0,0
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0, 0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76, 0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.8 0,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0. 25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer,15.65,18.37,15.33,17.42,17.18,3.97,0,3 .47,7.75,0.47,0,0.4,0
Turk_Xanthi,17.64,19.53,13.78,14.43,25.22,2.09,0,1 .91,3.70,0.16,0.61,0,0
Turk_Komotini,14.83,18.25,12.70,15.92,22.85,2.77,1 .68,1.92,6.80,0.87,0.46,0,0.95
Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain,14.6,18.22,12.61,16.66,21.62,4.36,0.63,2.34, 8.17,0.34,0,0.42,0.04
Turk_N-Macedonia,19.62,26.16,14.14,12.18,18.91,2.55,2.33, 1.13,2.05,0.67,0.04,0.21,0
Turk_Thessaloniki,19.29,19.58,17.35,12.55,26.1,1.9 7,0,0.51,1.38,0.94,0,0,0.32
Turk_Stara-Zagora,21.7,18.28,14.13,15.26,19.21,4.15,1.27,0.54 ,4.73,0.58,0,0.14,0
Turk_Edirne,13.92,14.66,16.81,19.56,20.22,2.35,3.0 4,3.03,5.28,0.53,0.53,0.07,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi,17.75,17.11,15.37,21.97,16.46,0.9,0.12,4.61, 5.19,0,0,0,0.53
Turk_Kazanlik,20.10,16.93,17.68,11.70,22.85,1.50,2 .76,1.72,3.09,0.72,0.59,0.37,0
Turk_Burgas,19.03,11.49,14.52,19.18,23.94,3.15,1.3 2,2.12,4.28,0.44,0,0.16,0.37
Turk_Kavala,22.02,18.10,16.46,14.95,20.83,1.60,0,1 .12,2.06,0.27,0.21,0,0.12
Turk_Sliven-Alevi,20.29,20.76,14.36,19.19,13.55,2.51,2.98,2.70 ,1.95,1.38,0,0,0.33
Turk_Crete,15.92,13.82,17.01,15.12,26.39,4.34,0,1. 98,2.4,0.21,0.19,1.76,0.87
Turk_Drama,17.20,22.87,15.61,15.52,19.94,1.52,1.62 ,2.76,1.90,0.27,0.26,0.19,0.34
Turk_Dobrich,18.15,22.61,15.49,12.65,18.85,4.32,2. 72,2.17,0.35,1.73,0,0.59,0.38
Turk_Razgrad,21.27,22.84,14.09,12.92,19.33,1.03,2. 24,2.57,2.24,0.25,0.12,0,1.10
Turk_Alexandroupoli,21.94,16.43,16.91,13.31,23.54, 4.30,0,0.35,2.08,0.99,0,0.13,0
Turk_Targovishte,20.17,18.88,12.05,14.29,22.67,2.6 1,1.15,3.42,3.38,0.61,0.77,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-West,16.43,21.01,14.99,15.94,16.79,3.94,3.41,3.15, 3.24,0.79,0.31,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-East,21.29,16.80,14.74,14.36,18.50,2.29,0.23,1.80, 5.40,2.55,1.10,0.66,0.29
Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33


LOL man, you have 3 of my samples in your spreadsheet. The Bulgarian_Haskovo is actually from Hisarya, Plovdiv Province. This one and Bulgarian_Central and Eastern_Rhodopes are 0.000000 distance with ones I have. You can also use North_Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0 and another from Hisarya,26.41,22.34,18.27,11.04,17.22,1.60,1.04,0, 0,1.50,0.57,0,0 and me from Hisarya BaiNed,25.63,21.24,18.04,8.86,22.32,2.31,0,0,0.27, 0.97,0.32,0,0

Kaspias
01-03-2020, 10:26 AM
LOL man, you have 3 of my samples in your spreadsheet. The Bulgarian_Haskovo is actually from Hisarya, Plovdiv Province. This one and Bulgarian_Central and Eastern_Rhodopes are 0.000000 distance with ones I have. You can also use North_Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0 and another from Hisarya,26.41,22.34,18.27,11.04,17.22,1.60,1.04,0, 0,1.50,0.57,0,0 and me from Hisarya BaiNed,25.63,21.24,18.04,8.86,22.32,2.31,0,0,0.27, 0.97,0.32,0,0

Do you have a clue why it is registered as Haskovo in Anthrogenica PCA?

I edited the spreadsheet.


Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88, 0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2. 69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1 .27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11 ,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24. 65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0 ,0
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1 .12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0
Bulgarian_Central,24.07,22.36,18.89,9.84,19.77,1.9 1,0.21,0,1.53,0.97,0.44,0.01,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2 .86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95 ,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.3 9,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31 ,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3. 15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36, 0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1. 85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33 ,0,1.08,0,0.13
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope,21.90,22.46,18.39,13.49,19.27,2.48,0 ,0.29,0.73,0.62,0.37,0,0
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07, 0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0 ,0.49,1.13,0,0,0
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0, 0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76, 0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.8 0,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0. 25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer,15.65,18.37,15.33,17.42,17.18,3.97,0,3 .47,7.75,0.47,0,0.4,0
Turk_Xanthi,17.64,19.53,13.78,14.43,25.22,2.09,0,1 .91,3.70,0.16,0.61,0,0
Turk_Komotini,14.83,18.25,12.70,15.92,22.85,2.77,1 .68,1.92,6.80,0.87,0.46,0,0.95
Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain,14.6,18.22,12.61,16.66,21.62,4.36,0.63,2.34, 8.17,0.34,0,0.42,0.04
Turk_N-Macedonia,19.62,26.16,14.14,12.18,18.91,2.55,2.33, 1.13,2.05,0.67,0.04,0.21,0
Turk_Thessaloniki,19.29,19.58,17.35,12.55,26.1,1.9 7,0,0.51,1.38,0.94,0,0,0.32
Turk_Stara-Zagora,21.7,18.28,14.13,15.26,19.21,4.15,1.27,0.54 ,4.73,0.58,0,0.14,0
Turk_Edirne,13.92,14.66,16.81,19.56,20.22,2.35,3.0 4,3.03,5.28,0.53,0.53,0.07,0
Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi,17.75,17.11,15.37,21.97,16.46,0.9,0.12,4.61, 5.19,0,0,0,0.53
Turk_Kazanlik,20.10,16.93,17.68,11.70,22.85,1.50,2 .76,1.72,3.09,0.72,0.59,0.37,0
Turk_Burgas,19.03,11.49,14.52,19.18,23.94,3.15,1.3 2,2.12,4.28,0.44,0,0.16,0.37
Turk_Kavala,22.02,18.10,16.46,14.95,20.83,1.60,0,1 .12,2.06,0.27,0.21,0,0.12
Turk_Sliven-Alevi,20.29,20.76,14.36,19.19,13.55,2.51,2.98,2.70 ,1.95,1.38,0,0,0.33
Turk_Crete,15.92,13.82,17.01,15.12,26.39,4.34,0,1. 98,2.4,0.21,0.19,1.76,0.87
Turk_Drama,17.20,22.87,15.61,15.52,19.94,1.52,1.62 ,2.76,1.90,0.27,0.26,0.19,0.34
Turk_Dobrich,18.15,22.61,15.49,12.65,18.85,4.32,2. 72,2.17,0.35,1.73,0,0.59,0.38
Turk_Razgrad,21.27,22.84,14.09,12.92,19.33,1.03,2. 24,2.57,2.24,0.25,0.12,0,1.10
Turk_Alexandroupoli,21.94,16.43,16.91,13.31,23.54, 4.30,0,0.35,2.08,0.99,0,0.13,0
Turk_Targovishte,20.17,18.88,12.05,14.29,22.67,2.6 1,1.15,3.42,3.38,0.61,0.77,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-West,16.43,21.01,14.99,15.94,16.79,3.94,3.41,3.15, 3.24,0.79,0.31,0,0
Turk_Kardzhali-East,21.29,16.80,14.74,14.36,18.50,2.29,0.23,1.80, 5.40,2.55,1.10,0.66,0.29
Turk_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33



Bulgarian Central have 8 sample size now. Haskovo deleted. North-Rhodope added

bained
01-03-2020, 11:09 AM
Do you have a clue why it is registered as Haskovo in Anthrogenica PCA?


Bulgarian Central have 8 sample size now. Haskovo deleted. North-Rhodope added

He plots closely to it, idk. I have him as Maritza on Anthrogenica plots.

This is pretty much me on 23andme, holy shit.
Distance: 0.9369% / 0.93688943 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
31.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
10.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Macedonian_East
3.8 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Kayra
01-03-2020, 11:47 AM
Target: Kayra
Distance: 1.4203% / 1.42032087 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Bosnian
32.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.0 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
4.2 RU_Pinega
0.8 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
0.8 Uzbeki
0.2 Naxi

Target: Kayra
Distance: 2.8512% / 2.85116653 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
47.4 Bosnian
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

Target: Kayra
Distance: 3.0958% / 3.09578182 | ADC: 1x
53.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
43.0 Bosnian
3.8 Macedonian

Target: Kayra
Distance: 5.8825% / 5.88249622 | ADC: 2x
57.4 Montenegrin
42.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer

Kaspias
01-03-2020, 12:03 PM
He plots closely to it, idk. I have him as Maritza on Anthrogenica plots.

This is pretty much me on 23andme, holy shit.
Distance: 0.9369% / 0.93688943 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
31.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
10.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
9.8 Swiss_Italian
5.4 Macedonian_East
3.8 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
0.8 Yemenite_Jewish


Target: Kayra
Distance: 1.4203% / 1.42032087 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Bosnian
32.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.0 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
4.2 RU_Pinega
0.8 Tibeto-Burman_Burmese
0.8 Uzbeki
0.2 Naxi

Target: Kayra
Distance: 2.8512% / 2.85116653 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
47.4 Bosnian
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

Target: Kayra
Distance: 3.0958% / 3.09578182 | ADC: 1x
53.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
43.0 Bosnian
3.8 Macedonian

Target: Kayra
Distance: 5.8825% / 5.88249622 | ADC: 2x
57.4 Montenegrin
42.6 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer


Glad to see such accurate results! It is probably more accurate than anything else for Kayra :D

altaic
01-03-2020, 01:27 PM
So what error you see? Everyone can open except you today. Also there isn't any login needed. Maybe you are using G25 coordinates?

Hi Lukasz,
It is the filter I have at work. Not a technical issue from your side (Sonicwall Geo-IP Filter. The Geo-IP Filter feature allows you to block connections to or from a geographic location.)
Block reason: Gateway GEO-IP Filter Alert
IP address: 86.111.241.128
Connection initiated towards country: Poland

I asked here because I can login to this link https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/ without an issue at work. Looks like http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ link has different IP that I can not open at work.

When I am home, no problem to browse both link. It is just at work due to the IP filter mentioned above...
Thanks in advance

Lucas
01-03-2020, 01:32 PM
If more people will have such problem I can use cloudflare to have US IP adress.

altaic
01-03-2020, 01:37 PM
If more people will have such problem I can use cloudflare to have US IP adress.

Ok. If you have US IP address, it will be OK, at least for me :) Thanks

Thracian
01-03-2020, 06:34 PM
Kaspias' final samples


Distances


Distance to: Thracian_I
4.66840444 Turk_Stara-Zagora
5.73613982 Turk_Targovishte
6.00818608 Turk_Kavala
6.41832533 Turk_Alexandroupoli
6.44848044 Macedonian_Southeast
6.75689278 Turk_Kardzhali-East
6.87028384 Turk_Kazanlik
7.05139702 Turk_Xanthi
7.42994616 Turk_Burgas
7.44307060 Turk_Komotini
7.49533188 Pomak_Drama
7.93547730 Greek_Western-Macedonia
8.06793034 Greek_Istanbul
8.08055072 Turk_Kardzhali-West
8.33368466 Turk_Drama
8.43397297 Bulgarian_Burgas
8.50308767 GR_Macedonia
8.59574895 Turk_Razgrad
8.59974418 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
8.63470903 Turk_Thessaloniki
8.67974654 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.73452918 Turk_Dobrich
8.81978458 Greek_Central-Macedonia
8.83191372 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
8.88277547 Turk_Edirne

Distance to: Thracian
5.98195620 Turk_Stara-Zagora
6.38141834 Turk_Kardzhali-West
7.03752087 Turk_Edirne
7.07247481 Macedonian_Southeast
7.56331277 Turk_Kavala
7.77345483 Turk_Kardzhali-East
7.84771304 Pomak_Drama
8.06550680 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
8.06794274 Turk_Komotini
8.19360116 Turk_Drama
8.28255395 Turk_Targovishte
8.39434929 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
8.41609767 Turk_Burgas
8.43442351 Turk_Alexandroupoli
8.53025205 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain
8.56296678 Turk_Dobrich
8.56495184 Turk_Kazanlik
8.64675083 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
8.76092461 Pomak_Komotini
8.89052867 GR_Macedonia
9.05586550 Greek_Istanbul
9.10126365 Turk_Xanthi
9.15065571 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
9.23923157 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
9.45800719 Greek_Peloponnese


23andMe


Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 1.0519% / 1.05189759 | ADC: 0.25x
56.4 Turk_Stara-Zagora
28.2 Greek_Istanbul
5.0 Turk_Alexandroupoli
5.0 Turk_Targovishte
1.8 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
1.8 Piramalai
1.2 Velamas
0.4 Lebanese_Druze
0.2 Chamar

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 2.1070% / 2.10698793 | ADC: 0.5x
64.6 Turk_Stara-Zagora
24.2 Greek_Istanbul
6.0 Turk_Targovishte
3.2 Turk_Burgas
1.4 Piramalai
0.6 Turk_Kazanlik


FTDNA



Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.5120% / 1.51202229 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 Turk_Stara-Zagora
21.0 Turk_Kardzhali-West
21.0 Greek_Peloponnese
8.2 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
2.8 Balochi
2.8 Sindhi
1.6 Turk_Edirne
0.2 Saudi

Target: Thracian
Distance: 2.8529% / 2.85290132 | ADC: 0.5x
44.2 Turk_Stara-Zagora
22.0 Turk_Edirne
18.6 Turk_Kardzhali-West
8.6 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
5.2 Greek_Peloponnese
1.4 Sindhi

Thracian
01-03-2020, 06:43 PM
I used regional samples excluded Balkan Turks but included Anatolian Turks.

It also supports again Anatolian admixture on Balkan Turks is negligible.

23andMe



Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 121.5680% / 1.21567977
30.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
27.4 Greek_Central-Macedonia
14.4 Iran_Centraleast
12.2 Csango_Gymes
6.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.4 Greek_Symi_Island
2.4 Iranian_Jewish
2.2 Iranian
0.8 Bulgarian_Serres
0.4 Bulgarian_Central

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 201.1512% / 2.01151184 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4 Greek_Central-Macedonia
23.4 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
18.8 Pomak_Drama
16.0 Turkmen
1.4 Iran_Bandari

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 365.6999% / 3.65699858 | ADC: 0.5x
50.8 Macedonian_Southeast
17.4 Greek_Istanbul
15.0 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
6.6 Pomak_Drama
6.2 Turkmen
2.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.2 GR_Peloponese

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 567.8405% / 5.67840462 | ADC: 1x
76.0 Macedonian_Southeast
22.4 Greek_Istanbul
1.6 Pomak_Drama



Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 644.8480% / 6.44848044 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Macedonian_Southeast





FTDNA



Target: Thracian
Distance: 157.2291% / 1.57229099
21.8 Bulgarian_Serres
19.0 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
17.2 Greek_Peloponnese
15.2 Iran_Centraleast
11.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.4 Lor_Iran
2.4 Pomak_Kavala
1.6 Serb_North-Macedonia

Target: Thracian
Distance: 243.1130% / 2.43112957 | ADC: 0.25x
28.0 Macedonian_Southeast
22.8 Greek_Peloponnese
18.8 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
10.8 Pomak_Drama
9.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.4 Iran_Bandari
3.6 Pomak_Kavala
0.6 Iran_Centraleast

Target: Thracian
Distance: 343.4304% / 3.43430410 | ADC: 0.5x
75.4 Macedonian_Southeast
8.8 Pomak_Drama
5.2 Iran_Bandari
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.0 Turk_North_West
1.4 Greek_Peloponnese


Target: Thracian
Distance: 576.1805% / 5.76180454 | ADC: 1x
84.0 Macedonian_Southeast
8.0 Pomak_Drama
8.0 Turk_North_West

Target: Thracian
Distance: 707.2475% / 7.07247481 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Macedonian_Southeast

Dušan
01-03-2020, 06:50 PM
Dodecad K12b

Distance to: Dušan
3.15678634 Bosnian
8.66609485 Hungarians
9.68489546 Romanians
11.82079524 Bulgarian
11.91160778 Bulgarians
15.62674630 German
15.73829775 Italy_FriuliVG
16.16956091 Albanian_North
17.43846897 Albanian_Kosovo
17.44713214 Italy_Trentino
18.39069176 Italy_Veneto
19.09478103 Swiss_Italian
19.29368722 Italy_Aosta_Valley
19.99201116 Italy_Piedmont
21.14736863 Mixed_Germanic
21.62160812 Italy_Lombardy
22.51902316 Italy_Liguria
22.58573001 Dutch
22.82943212 Italy_Emilia
23.22796806 French
23.43530243 French
23.52868887 Ukranians
23.59670719 Italy_Tuscany
23.99336992 Italy_Romagna
24.36086000 Polish


Target: Dušan
Distance: 0.1913% / 0.19133228
31.2 Belorussian
15.0 Bulgarians
8.0 Abhkasians
6.8 Italy_Trentino
6.6 Sardinian
5.6 Valencia
4.4 Finnish
4.2 Lithuanians
4.0 Albanian_North
2.2 Baleares
1.8 Greek
1.4 Andalucia
1.4 France_Corsica
1.2 Castilla_Y_Leon
1.2 Chechens
1.2 German
1.0 Hungarians
0.8 Nganassan
0.4 French_Basque
0.4 Norwegian
0.4 Spanish
0.4 Swedish
0.2 Canarias
0.2 Dutch

Target: Dušan
Distance: 1.7925% / 1.79247908 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 Bosnian
21.2 Bulgarians
18.2 Hungarians
1.4 Italy_Aosta_Valley
0.2 Nganassan

Target: Dušan
Distance: 2.3815% / 2.38153830 | ADC: 0.5x
89.0 Bosnian
11.0 Bulgarians

Kaspias
01-03-2020, 07:07 PM
I used regional samples excluded Balkan Turks but included Anatolian Turks.

It also supports again Anatolian admixture on Balkan Turks is negligible.

23andMe



Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 121.5680% / 1.21567977
30.8 Bulgarian_Southwest
27.4 Greek_Central-Macedonia
14.4 Iran_Centraleast
12.2 Csango_Gymes
6.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.4 Greek_Symi_Island
2.4 Iranian_Jewish
2.2 Iranian
0.8 Bulgarian_Serres
0.4 Bulgarian_Central

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 201.1512% / 2.01151184 | ADC: 0.25x
40.4 Greek_Central-Macedonia
23.4 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
18.8 Pomak_Drama
16.0 Turkmen
1.4 Iran_Bandari

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 365.6999% / 3.65699858 | ADC: 0.5x
50.8 Macedonian_Southeast
17.4 Greek_Istanbul
15.0 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
6.6 Pomak_Drama
6.2 Turkmen
2.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.2 GR_Peloponese

Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 567.8405% / 5.67840462 | ADC: 1x
76.0 Macedonian_Southeast
22.4 Greek_Istanbul
1.6 Pomak_Drama



Target: Thracian_I
Distance: 644.8480% / 6.44848044 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Macedonian_Southeast





FTDNA



Target: Thracian
Distance: 157.2291% / 1.57229099
21.8 Bulgarian_Serres
19.0 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
17.2 Greek_Peloponnese
15.2 Iran_Centraleast
11.8 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
8.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.4 Lor_Iran
2.4 Pomak_Kavala
1.6 Serb_North-Macedonia

Target: Thracian
Distance: 243.1130% / 2.43112957 | ADC: 0.25x
28.0 Macedonian_Southeast
22.8 Greek_Peloponnese
18.8 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
10.8 Pomak_Drama
9.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.4 Iran_Bandari
3.6 Pomak_Kavala
0.6 Iran_Centraleast

Target: Thracian
Distance: 343.4304% / 3.43430410 | ADC: 0.5x
75.4 Macedonian_Southeast
8.8 Pomak_Drama
5.2 Iran_Bandari
5.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.0 Turk_North_West
1.4 Greek_Peloponnese


Target: Thracian
Distance: 576.1805% / 5.76180454 | ADC: 1x
84.0 Macedonian_Southeast
8.0 Pomak_Drama
8.0 Turk_North_West

Target: Thracian
Distance: 707.2475% / 7.07247481 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Macedonian_Southeast



Well that's good idea, didn't think it.

FTDNA

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 2.5248% / 2.52483974 | ADC: 0.25x
80.2 Pomak_Drama
10.8 Afghan_Turkmen
7.8 Altaian
1.2 Lebanese_Druze

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 4.3079% / 4.30786886 | ADC: 0.5x
70.6 Pomak_Drama
19.6 Crimean_Tatar
9.4 Turk_North_West
0.4 Ashkenazi

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 6.1776% / 6.17762161 | ADC: 1x
87.4 Pomak_Drama
11.8 Crimean_Tatar
0.8 Turk_North_West

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 8.4594% / 8.45941487 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama



Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 1.9651% / 1.96513928 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Pomak_Xanthi
17.2 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
10.6 Afghan_Turkmen
9.4 Pomak_Drama
5.4 Lebanese_Druze
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
1.8 Karakalpak
0.4 Dolgan
0.2 Oroqen
0.2 Tuvinian


Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 4.3598% / 4.35984558 | ADC: 0.5x
44.4 Pomak_Drama
33.2 Pomak_Xanthi
13.0 Crimean_Tatar
3.6 Yemenite_Jewish
3.0 Turk_North_West
2.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
0.2 Karakalpak

Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 7.8851% / 7.88514401 | ADC: 1x
86.6 Pomak_Drama
13.4 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 8.3409% / 8.34092321 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama

Thracian
01-03-2020, 07:16 PM
Well that's good idea, didn't think it.

FTDNA

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 2.5248% / 2.52483974 | ADC: 0.25x
80.2 Pomak_Drama
10.8 Afghan_Turkmen
7.8 Altaian
1.2 Lebanese_Druze

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 4.3079% / 4.30786886 | ADC: 0.5x
70.6 Pomak_Drama
19.6 Crimean_Tatar
9.4 Turk_North_West
0.4 Ashkenazi

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 6.1776% / 6.17762161 | ADC: 1x
87.4 Pomak_Drama
11.8 Crimean_Tatar
0.8 Turk_North_West

Target: KaspiasFTDNA
Distance: 8.4594% / 8.45941487 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama



Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 1.9651% / 1.96513928 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Pomak_Xanthi
17.2 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
10.6 Afghan_Turkmen
9.4 Pomak_Drama
5.4 Lebanese_Druze
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
2.4 Yemenite_Jewish
1.8 Karakalpak
0.4 Dolgan
0.2 Oroqen
0.2 Tuvinian


Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 4.3598% / 4.35984558 | ADC: 0.5x
44.4 Pomak_Drama
33.2 Pomak_Xanthi
13.0 Crimean_Tatar
3.6 Yemenite_Jewish
3.0 Turk_North_West
2.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
0.2 Karakalpak

Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 7.8851% / 7.88514401 | ADC: 1x
86.6 Pomak_Drama
13.4 Pomak_Xanthi

Target: Kaspias23andMe
Distance: 8.3409% / 8.34092321 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama

Did you just exclude Balkan Turks? I used this spread sheet. Maybe we add or remove some populations not sure yet.


Kurdish,3.67,3.55,6.20,40.33,29.77,5.69,8.07,0.36, 1.01,0.49,0.28,0.52,0.07
Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey,3.73,4.75,7.96,38.41,30.58,5. 17,7.45,0.4,1.11,0.56,0,0,0
Kurd_Iran,4,2.22,7.31,39.88,31.03,4.36,9.29,0,0.99 ,0.19,0,0.03,0.54
Kurd_Sorani,2.98,4.22,6.58,38,30.5,6.66,8.45,0.41, 0.76,0.66,0.24,0.72,0.27
Kurdish_Jewish,0.80,0.29,10.41,30.50,41.89,10.63,3 .93,0.57,0.05,0.14,0.26,0.53,0.00
Greek_Istanbul,18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26.36,2.59, 0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Thrace,16.34,17.89,20.20,13.03,27.42,3.63,0,0,1.02 ,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Western-Thrace,21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.90,0,1.34,0 ,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia,20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4.13,0,0.4 1,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Western-Macedonia,22.83,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1.52,0,0.49 ,1.28,0,0,0,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace,19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0,0,1.00,0, 1.52,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki,19.32,20.53,20.5,11.27,25.05,2. 32,0,0,0.73,0.29,0,0,0
Greek_Central-Macedonia,23.34,16.97,18.98,11.86,22.95,3.96,0,0,0 .81,0.64,0.46,0,0
Serb_North-Macedonia,18.17,25.73,24.26,13.50,14.58,2.09,0,0,0 ,0.99,0,0.68,0
Vlach_Central-Macedonia,21.16,16.34,21.87,11.20,23.99,4.14,0.06, 0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia,22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4.68,0,0.6 6,0,0,0.67,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander,21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05,4.71,0,0, 0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
Macedonian_Southwest,18.21,23.02,22.24,10.01,23.19 ,2.53,0,0.8,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Central,19.26,23.57,21.08,12.68,20.06,1 .89,0,0.17,1.10,0,0,0,0.20
Macedonian_Southeast,21.19,19.31,17.17,15.1,20.65, 3.91,0,0.84,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Macedonian_East,23.4,22.77,19.9,8.95,21.84,1.13,0, 0.77,0.85,0.16,0,0,0.24
Macedonian_Northwest,23.21,23.67,19.11,10.68,18.68 ,2.14,0.58,0.47,1.46,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_North,20.21,24.00,21.25,10.02,21.18,2.5 3,0,0.81,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Greece,16.58,23.42,18.82,14.49,23.78,0. 88,0,1.48,0.25,0,0.12,0,0.18
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central,21.08,20.82,21.51,10.81,23.51,0.98,0,0,0.1 6,0.74,0.39,0,0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East,19.26,17.27,22.23,11.81,23.16,3.03,0,1.33,0.9 3,0.98,0,0,0
Turkish_mixed,7.12,4.32,12.01,30.83,28.97,5.46,4.0 5,2.41,3.63,0.28,0.56,0.34,0.01
Turk_Anatolia,7.8,6.7,11.49,28.23,26.85,4.32,3.32, 3.21,6.46,0.63,0.45,0.3,0.23
Turk_Central_Black_Sea,5.57,5.29,11.47,31.63,27.5, 4.32,2.57,3.81,6.75,0.59,0.3,0.02,0.08
Turk_Central_East,6.5,6,11.05,29.12,29.7,4.14,3.61 ,2.42,5.93,0.55,0.53,0.18,0.21
Turk_Central_West,9.43,6.14,11.37,27.29,27.47,4.87 ,2.76,3.24,5.81,0.51,0.59,0.26,0.21
Turk_Cypriot,5.87,3.86,18.77,18.36,36.95,8.38,2.06 ,0.64,1.47,0.3,0,1.95,1.31
Turk_East,5.37,4.44,10.98,35.86,29.82,4.02,4.85,1. 19,2.15,0.61,0.25,0.3,0.13
Turk_East_Black_Sea,2,2.18,14.83,40.78,33.76,2.4,1 .81,0.76,0.89,0.12,0.38,0,0
Turk_Meskhetian,1.28,2.96,12.66,45.51,29.35,3.41,2 .82,1.13,0.09,0.06,0.4,0.3,0
Turk_North_West,8.8,9.51,12.55,25.66,23.89,2.89,2. 3,4.75,8.02,0.63,0.61,0.26,0.07
Turk_South,6.89,6.1,10.81,27.85,26.51,5.15,3.94,3. 32,7.45,0.44,0.45,0.5,0.48
Turk_South_East,5.41,4.3,10.44,34.23,30.39,4.93,4. 07,1.77,3.24,0.35,0.32,0.36,0.12
Turkmen,7.21,5.91,2.52,32.73,19.76,1.31,11.21,6.87 ,10.08,1.88,0.32,0.08,0.11
Turkmen_Iraq,4.43,2.1,8.05,35.26,31.26,7.43,5.96,2 .1,0.91,0.63,0.22,0.67,0.98
Turkmen_Uzbekistan,7.25,9.48,3.13,25.95,11.85,3.01 ,9.77,10.3,17.5,0.98,0.37,0.29,0.12
Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0,0,0
Romanian_Oltenia,24.37,24.49,17.09,11.28,18.04,2.1 4,0.55,0.27,0.83,0.60,0.18,0.09,0.06
Romanian_South_Central_Moldova,23.66,27.39,16.45,1 0.42,16.41,2.00,0.2,0.56,2.15,0.37,0.35,0.04,0
Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina,24.97,31.21,15.12, 9.58,13.13,1.48,1.49,0.47,1.74,0.54,0.25,0,0.12
Romanian_Muntenia,23.20,24.80,19.75,10.02,20.15,0, 0,0.7,1.75,0.27,0.45,0,02
Romanian_Transylvania,24.69,25.70,18.14,11.08,16.3 5,0.79,0.36,0.52,0.68,0.84,0.7,0,0.13
North_Macedonian,23.775,21.6875,19.2675,10.7825,20 .785,2.01,0.16,0.0475,0.36,0.5625,0.475,0,0.075
Montenegrin,25.2764285714,25.5585714286,17.5721428 571,10.2835714286,16.9257142857,2.4157142857,0.188 5714286,0.26,0.7021428571,0.4492857143,0.295714285 7,0.0328571429,0.0585714286
Macedonian,23.3507142857,25.1935714286,17.92285714 29,10.5664285714,19.1064285714,2.0142857143,0.465, 0.3485714286,0.1957142857,0.4078571429,0.374285714 3,0.0164285714,0.0585714286
Lor_Iran,1.16,3.82,5.91,39.11,29.66,7.04,9.87,0.18 ,1.31,0.38,0.39,0.36,0.68
Kosovo_Albanian,22.4377777778,17.9844444444,20.775 5555556,12.7611111111,22.0188888889,2.4544444444,0 .3922222222,0.37,0.1777777778,0.2466666667,0.34,0. 0233333333,0.0166666667
Iranian,2.07,4.23,4.23,38.20,29.70,7.48,10.56,0.04 ,1.34,0.28,0.24,0.17,1.47
Iran_Bandari,1.22,5.00,1.58,39.40,17.21,4.19,19.92 ,0.00,0.19,1.09,0.71,2.73,6.66
Iran_Centraleast,3.29,4.79,3.67,39.54,25.33,5.16,1 5.06,0.17,1.02,0.62,0.51,0.37,1.89
Iranian_Jewish,1.26,0.87,8.94,29.82,41.97,9.77,5.8 3,0.01,0.25,0.01,0.33,0.74,0.20
Greek_Thessaly,19.12,16.32,20.63,11.87,25.40,3.83, 1.35,0.09,0.20,0.70,0.32,0.13,0.03
Greek_Andros_Island,19.35,10.61,18.08,15.98,28.96, 4.76,0,0.37,0.54,0.73,0,0.64,0
Greek_Cappadocian,6.83,3.81,18.16,27.6,36.59,4.92, 0.94,0.03,0.64,0.03,0.4,0,0
Greek_Chios,12.26,6.67,20.79,20.21,33.04,5.56,0,0. 58,0.45,0.02,0.19,0.18,0
Greek_Cypriot,5.67,2.81,19.86,20.34,41.08,8.12,0.5 ,0.07,0.23,0,0.47,0.3,0.54
Greek_Dodecanese,11.6,4.81,21.36,16.98,35.05,7.015 ,1.49,0.58,0.36,0.33,0.07,0.27,0.13
Greek_Caucasus,2.09,2.19,14.56,38.52,36.1,4.13,1.6 4,0.14,0.14,0,0.49,0,0
Greek_Macedonia_Thrace,15.23,16.22,18.36,17.97,26. 41,3.56,0.54,0.36,0.58,0,0.53,0.15,0.03
Greek_Peloponnese,18.56,14.36,21.06,15.04,24.24,5. 05,0,0.57,0.29,0.28,0.17,0,0.32
Greek_Symi_Island,14.19,2.63,21.63,17.09,35.08,5.8 4,1.17,0.68,0.64,0,0,0.7,0.34
Greek_Trabzon,3.03,2.61,15.35,37.05,36.21,3.91,0.9 5,0.22,0.3,0.04,0.3,0,0.3
GR_Macedonia,16.955,18.8833333333,19.22,14.8316666 667,24.9683333333,3.0516666667,0.3616666667,0.385, 0.6433333333,0,0.485,0.18,0.035
GR_Peloponese,18.50375,15.75625,19.3175,12.96125,2 6.99875,3.585,1.23375,0.375,0.34375,0.205,0.50875, 0.2075,0.00125
Central_Greek,16.86,10.36,21.47,15.44,29.25,5.03,0 .29,0.24,0.14,0.32,0.56,0.03,0.01
Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88, 0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2. 69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1 .27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11 ,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24. 65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0 ,0
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1 .12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0
Bulgarian_Central,23.19,22.39,17.70,8.96,20.02,3.7 1,0.87,0,1.54,1.62,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Haskovo,20.45,23.47,21.57,10.51,19.54,0. 61,0,0,2.14,0.75,0.88,0.06,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2 .86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95 ,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.3 9,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31 ,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3. 15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36, 0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1. 85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33 ,0,1.08,0,0.13
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07, 0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0 ,0.49,1.13,0,0,0
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0, 0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76, 0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.8 0,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0. 25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0
Bosniak_Sandzak,24.31,25.40,19.12,9.89,16.79,2.86, 0.35,0.25,0.20,0.51,0.13,0.00,0.19
Bosniak_Tuzla,27.03,35.88,13.58,7.51,12.14,0.81,0. 39,0.38,0.78,0.57,0.51,0.20,0.27
Bulgarian,21.75,24.06,17.91,11.91,20.12,1.95,0.11, 0.52,0.43,0.57,0.41,0.11,0.16
Chechen,10.14,15.25,4.48,46.45,13.11,1.36,3.47,1.3 4,1.73,1.32,1.05,0.18,0.12
Croatian,27.21,36.11,14.54,7.94,9.44,1.45,0.97,0.3 0,0.33,0.80,0.40,0.32,0.19
Kaykavian_Croatian,32.40,34.24,12.44,7.93,7.81,1.4 9,1.32,0.75,0.15,1.18,0.23,0.00,0.06
Croat_Bosnia,28.045,32.0675,15.4175,7.4575,11.93,1 .45,2.01,0,1.0625,0.375,0.13,0,0.0925
Croat_Split,26.60,31.52,16.57,7.89,13.14,1.59,0.44 ,0.22,0.52,0.51,0.59,0.24,0.14
South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster,25.45,35.03,15.55,6.7,1 1.30,2.50,0.29,0.34,0.99,0.69,0.50,0.00,0.32
South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster,25.25,29.91,16.48,8.85 ,15.03,1.97,0.74,0.26,0.64,0.48,0.17,0.01,0.16
Csango_Gymes,27.25,29.91,14.27,7.02,11.16,3.75,1.2 5,0.88,2.8,0.76,0,1.00,0
Serbian_new,25.1342857143,30.1357142857,16.5271428 571,8.7135714286,15.37,1.75,0.3692857143,0.2928571 429,0.8414285714,0.3471428571,0.3021428571,0.04357 14286,0.0978571429
Serbian_Bosnia,26.2975,31.9975,15.9675,7.81,13.62, 1.785,0.58,0.6375,0.625,0.18,0.3975,0.1075,0
Serb_Croatia,24.61,30.10,17.60,8.67,14.73,1.85,0.5 0,0.16,1.05,0.23,0.36,0.01,0.05

Kaspias
01-03-2020, 08:35 PM
Did you just exclude Balkan Turks? I used this spread sheet. Maybe we add or remove some populations not sure yet.


Kurdish,3.67,3.55,6.20,40.33,29.77,5.69,8.07,0.36, 1.01,0.49,0.28,0.52,0.07
Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey,3.73,4.75,7.96,38.41,30.58,5. 17,7.45,0.4,1.11,0.56,0,0,0
Kurd_Iran,4,2.22,7.31,39.88,31.03,4.36,9.29,0,0.99 ,0.19,0,0.03,0.54
Kurd_Sorani,2.98,4.22,6.58,38,30.5,6.66,8.45,0.41, 0.76,0.66,0.24,0.72,0.27
Kurdish_Jewish,0.80,0.29,10.41,30.50,41.89,10.63,3 .93,0.57,0.05,0.14,0.26,0.53,0.00
Greek_Istanbul,18.08,15.35,16.12,19.69,26.36,2.59, 0,0,0.53,0.42,0.73,0.13,0
Greek_Eastern-Thrace,16.34,17.89,20.20,13.03,27.42,3.63,0,0,1.02 ,0.31,0.13,0,0
Greek_Western-Thrace,21.88,13.08,22.91,12.65,25.86,1.90,0,1.34,0 ,0.38,0,0,0
Greek_Eastern-Macedonia,20.66,15.94,21.89,13.13,22.35,4.13,0,0.4 1,0.19,0,0.06,1.25,0
Greek_Western-Macedonia,22.83,18.2,18.37,13.76,23.52,1.52,0,0.49 ,1.28,0,0,0,0
Greek_Northern-Thrace,19.04,22.53,19.23,12.02,24.12,0,0,0,1.00,0, 1.52,0,0
Greek_Thessaloniki,19.32,20.53,20.5,11.27,25.05,2. 32,0,0,0.73,0.29,0,0,0
Greek_Central-Macedonia,23.34,16.97,18.98,11.86,22.95,3.96,0,0,0 .81,0.64,0.46,0,0
Serb_North-Macedonia,18.17,25.73,24.26,13.50,14.58,2.09,0,0,0 ,0.99,0,0.68,0
Vlach_Central-Macedonia,21.16,16.34,21.87,11.20,23.99,4.14,0.06, 0.43,0,0,0.81,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia,22.21,19.88,20.33,11.84,19.73,4.68,0,0.6 6,0,0,0.67,0,0
Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander,21.34,21.03,18.47,10.96,22.05,4.71,0,0, 0,1.06,0.25,0.12,0
Macedonian_Southwest,18.21,23.02,22.24,10.01,23.19 ,2.53,0,0.8,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Central,19.26,23.57,21.08,12.68,20.06,1 .89,0,0.17,1.10,0,0,0,0.20
Macedonian_Southeast,21.19,19.31,17.17,15.1,20.65, 3.91,0,0.84,0.59,0.29,0.95,0,0
Macedonian_East,23.4,22.77,19.9,8.95,21.84,1.13,0, 0.77,0.85,0.16,0,0,0.24
Macedonian_Northwest,23.21,23.67,19.11,10.68,18.68 ,2.14,0.58,0.47,1.46,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_North,20.21,24.00,21.25,10.02,21.18,2.5 3,0,0.81,0,0,0,0,0
Macedonian_Greece,16.58,23.42,18.82,14.49,23.78,0. 88,0,1.48,0.25,0,0.12,0,0.18
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central,21.08,20.82,21.51,10.81,23.51,0.98,0,0,0.1 6,0.74,0.39,0,0
Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East,19.26,17.27,22.23,11.81,23.16,3.03,0,1.33,0.9 3,0.98,0,0,0
Turkish_mixed,7.12,4.32,12.01,30.83,28.97,5.46,4.0 5,2.41,3.63,0.28,0.56,0.34,0.01
Turk_Anatolia,7.8,6.7,11.49,28.23,26.85,4.32,3.32, 3.21,6.46,0.63,0.45,0.3,0.23
Turk_Central_Black_Sea,5.57,5.29,11.47,31.63,27.5, 4.32,2.57,3.81,6.75,0.59,0.3,0.02,0.08
Turk_Central_East,6.5,6,11.05,29.12,29.7,4.14,3.61 ,2.42,5.93,0.55,0.53,0.18,0.21
Turk_Central_West,9.43,6.14,11.37,27.29,27.47,4.87 ,2.76,3.24,5.81,0.51,0.59,0.26,0.21
Turk_Cypriot,5.87,3.86,18.77,18.36,36.95,8.38,2.06 ,0.64,1.47,0.3,0,1.95,1.31
Turk_East,5.37,4.44,10.98,35.86,29.82,4.02,4.85,1. 19,2.15,0.61,0.25,0.3,0.13
Turk_East_Black_Sea,2,2.18,14.83,40.78,33.76,2.4,1 .81,0.76,0.89,0.12,0.38,0,0
Turk_Meskhetian,1.28,2.96,12.66,45.51,29.35,3.41,2 .82,1.13,0.09,0.06,0.4,0.3,0
Turk_North_West,8.8,9.51,12.55,25.66,23.89,2.89,2. 3,4.75,8.02,0.63,0.61,0.26,0.07
Turk_South,6.89,6.1,10.81,27.85,26.51,5.15,3.94,3. 32,7.45,0.44,0.45,0.5,0.48
Turk_South_East,5.41,4.3,10.44,34.23,30.39,4.93,4. 07,1.77,3.24,0.35,0.32,0.36,0.12
Turkmen,7.21,5.91,2.52,32.73,19.76,1.31,11.21,6.87 ,10.08,1.88,0.32,0.08,0.11
Turkmen_Iraq,4.43,2.1,8.05,35.26,31.26,7.43,5.96,2 .1,0.91,0.63,0.22,0.67,0.98
Turkmen_Uzbekistan,7.25,9.48,3.13,25.95,11.85,3.01 ,9.77,10.3,17.5,0.98,0.37,0.29,0.12
Romanian_Botosani,22.52,33.55,15.3,9.67,13.39,2.08 ,1.2,0.4,1.78,0,0,0,0
Romanian_Oltenia,24.37,24.49,17.09,11.28,18.04,2.1 4,0.55,0.27,0.83,0.60,0.18,0.09,0.06
Romanian_South_Central_Moldova,23.66,27.39,16.45,1 0.42,16.41,2.00,0.2,0.56,2.15,0.37,0.35,0.04,0
Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina,24.97,31.21,15.12, 9.58,13.13,1.48,1.49,0.47,1.74,0.54,0.25,0,0.12
Romanian_Muntenia,23.20,24.80,19.75,10.02,20.15,0, 0,0.7,1.75,0.27,0.45,0,02
Romanian_Transylvania,24.69,25.70,18.14,11.08,16.3 5,0.79,0.36,0.52,0.68,0.84,0.7,0,0.13
North_Macedonian,23.775,21.6875,19.2675,10.7825,20 .785,2.01,0.16,0.0475,0.36,0.5625,0.475,0,0.075
Montenegrin,25.2764285714,25.5585714286,17.5721428 571,10.2835714286,16.9257142857,2.4157142857,0.188 5714286,0.26,0.7021428571,0.4492857143,0.295714285 7,0.0328571429,0.0585714286
Macedonian,23.3507142857,25.1935714286,17.92285714 29,10.5664285714,19.1064285714,2.0142857143,0.465, 0.3485714286,0.1957142857,0.4078571429,0.374285714 3,0.0164285714,0.0585714286
Lor_Iran,1.16,3.82,5.91,39.11,29.66,7.04,9.87,0.18 ,1.31,0.38,0.39,0.36,0.68
Kosovo_Albanian,22.4377777778,17.9844444444,20.775 5555556,12.7611111111,22.0188888889,2.4544444444,0 .3922222222,0.37,0.1777777778,0.2466666667,0.34,0. 0233333333,0.0166666667
Iranian,2.07,4.23,4.23,38.20,29.70,7.48,10.56,0.04 ,1.34,0.28,0.24,0.17,1.47
Iran_Bandari,1.22,5.00,1.58,39.40,17.21,4.19,19.92 ,0.00,0.19,1.09,0.71,2.73,6.66
Iran_Centraleast,3.29,4.79,3.67,39.54,25.33,5.16,1 5.06,0.17,1.02,0.62,0.51,0.37,1.89
Iranian_Jewish,1.26,0.87,8.94,29.82,41.97,9.77,5.8 3,0.01,0.25,0.01,0.33,0.74,0.20
Greek_Thessaly,19.12,16.32,20.63,11.87,25.40,3.83, 1.35,0.09,0.20,0.70,0.32,0.13,0.03
Greek_Andros_Island,19.35,10.61,18.08,15.98,28.96, 4.76,0,0.37,0.54,0.73,0,0.64,0
Greek_Cappadocian,6.83,3.81,18.16,27.6,36.59,4.92, 0.94,0.03,0.64,0.03,0.4,0,0
Greek_Chios,12.26,6.67,20.79,20.21,33.04,5.56,0,0. 58,0.45,0.02,0.19,0.18,0
Greek_Cypriot,5.67,2.81,19.86,20.34,41.08,8.12,0.5 ,0.07,0.23,0,0.47,0.3,0.54
Greek_Dodecanese,11.6,4.81,21.36,16.98,35.05,7.015 ,1.49,0.58,0.36,0.33,0.07,0.27,0.13
Greek_Caucasus,2.09,2.19,14.56,38.52,36.1,4.13,1.6 4,0.14,0.14,0,0.49,0,0
Greek_Macedonia_Thrace,15.23,16.22,18.36,17.97,26. 41,3.56,0.54,0.36,0.58,0,0.53,0.15,0.03
Greek_Peloponnese,18.56,14.36,21.06,15.04,24.24,5. 05,0,0.57,0.29,0.28,0.17,0,0.32
Greek_Symi_Island,14.19,2.63,21.63,17.09,35.08,5.8 4,1.17,0.68,0.64,0,0,0.7,0.34
Greek_Trabzon,3.03,2.61,15.35,37.05,36.21,3.91,0.9 5,0.22,0.3,0.04,0.3,0,0.3
GR_Macedonia,16.955,18.8833333333,19.22,14.8316666 667,24.9683333333,3.0516666667,0.3616666667,0.385, 0.6433333333,0,0.485,0.18,0.035
GR_Peloponese,18.50375,15.75625,19.3175,12.96125,2 6.99875,3.585,1.23375,0.375,0.34375,0.205,0.50875, 0.2075,0.00125
Central_Greek,16.86,10.36,21.47,15.44,29.25,5.03,0 .29,0.24,0.14,0.32,0.56,0.03,0.01
Bulgarian_Sofia,20.64,27.60,18.10,9.15,17.80,2.88, 0.90,0.53,0.82,0.70,0.66,0.20,0
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa,27.23,27.16,16.45,9.78,13.18,2. 69,0,0.28,2.16,0.23,0.84,0,0
Bulgarian_Southwest,26.90,22.33,16.06,9.16,21.27,1 .27,0.06,0.11,2.00,0.56,0.29,0.00,0.00
Bulgarian_Serres,22.95,22.58,19.15,8.27,19.21,5.11 ,1.60,0.07,0.20,0.49,0,0,0.36
Bulgarian_Thrace,17.09,19.89333,19.62667,12.54,24. 65667,2.01,2.416667,0.726667,0.753333,0,0.286667,0 ,0
Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes,21.73,21.46,17.37,14.88,16.78,3.54,1.61,1 .12,0,0.47,0.88,0.16,0
Bulgarian_Central,23.19,22.39,17.70,8.96,20.02,3.7 1,0.87,0,1.54,1.62,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Haskovo,20.45,23.47,21.57,10.51,19.54,0. 61,0,0,2.14,0.75,0.88,0.06,0
Bulgarian_Northwest,16.56,29.65,18.57,12.5,17.17,2 .86,0,1.4,0.38,0,0.91,0,0
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik,17.05,26.34,20.12,11.33,18.95 ,2.93,0,0.48,0.95,0.76,0.53,0.54,0
Bulgarian_Burgas,23.92,21.59,14.33,17.54,19.18,1.3 9,0.35,0.27,0.49,0,0,0.94,0
Bulgarian_Pleven,24.14,27.52,16.69,7.96,18.37,1.31 ,1.09,0.31,1.44,0.96,0.21,0,0
Bulgarian_Gabrovo,22.02,23.32,18.08,12.17,18.41,3. 15,1.36,0.41,1.08,0,0,0,0
Bulgarian_Ruse,17.59,29.84,17.48,15.72,15.73,1.36, 0,0.45,0.25,0,1.40,0.18,0
Bulgarian_Plovdiv,23.68,20.24,18.62,11.63,22.44,1. 85,0,0,0,0.99,0.55,0,0
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora,21.65,24.49,17.67,11.29,19.07,3.29,0,0,1.33 ,0,1.08,0,0.13
Pomak_Komotini,15.18,22.66,17.87,16.57,21.45,3.07, 0.04,0.92,0.63,0.9,0.45,0,0.27
Pomak_Central-Macedonia,24.01,21.38,13.21,13.02,20.84,5.57,0,0,0 ,0,0,0,0
Pomak_Xanthi,14.67,28.41,17.04,8.30,26.71,3.25,0,0 ,0.49,1.13,0,0,0
Pomak_Plovdiv,21.86,27.36,16.93,7.50,22.14,1.68,0, 0.82,0,0.78,0.23,0.47,0.24
Pomak_Nevrokopi,20.29,23.47,17.57,12.92,20.7,2.76, 0,0.75,0.19,0.68,0.66,0,0
Pomak_Drama,17.96,22.92,16.03,14.84,21.63,3.02,1.8 0,0,1.02,0.59,0.20,0,0
Pomak_Kavala,21.86,24.65,14.51,14.45,16.30,6.90,0. 25,0,0,0,0,1.08,0
Bosniak_Sandzak,24.31,25.40,19.12,9.89,16.79,2.86, 0.35,0.25,0.20,0.51,0.13,0.00,0.19
Bosniak_Tuzla,27.03,35.88,13.58,7.51,12.14,0.81,0. 39,0.38,0.78,0.57,0.51,0.20,0.27
Bulgarian,21.75,24.06,17.91,11.91,20.12,1.95,0.11, 0.52,0.43,0.57,0.41,0.11,0.16
Chechen,10.14,15.25,4.48,46.45,13.11,1.36,3.47,1.3 4,1.73,1.32,1.05,0.18,0.12
Croatian,27.21,36.11,14.54,7.94,9.44,1.45,0.97,0.3 0,0.33,0.80,0.40,0.32,0.19
Kaykavian_Croatian,32.40,34.24,12.44,7.93,7.81,1.4 9,1.32,0.75,0.15,1.18,0.23,0.00,0.06
Croat_Bosnia,28.045,32.0675,15.4175,7.4575,11.93,1 .45,2.01,0,1.0625,0.375,0.13,0,0.0925
Croat_Split,26.60,31.52,16.57,7.89,13.14,1.59,0.44 ,0.22,0.52,0.51,0.59,0.24,0.14
South_Croat_Slavic_Cluster,25.45,35.03,15.55,6.7,1 1.30,2.50,0.29,0.34,0.99,0.69,0.50,0.00,0.32
South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster,25.25,29.91,16.48,8.85 ,15.03,1.97,0.74,0.26,0.64,0.48,0.17,0.01,0.16
Csango_Gymes,27.25,29.91,14.27,7.02,11.16,3.75,1.2 5,0.88,2.8,0.76,0,1.00,0
Serbian_new,25.1342857143,30.1357142857,16.5271428 571,8.7135714286,15.37,1.75,0.3692857143,0.2928571 429,0.8414285714,0.3471428571,0.3021428571,0.04357 14286,0.0978571429
Serbian_Bosnia,26.2975,31.9975,15.9675,7.81,13.62, 1.785,0.58,0.6375,0.625,0.18,0.3975,0.1075,0
Serb_Croatia,24.61,30.10,17.60,8.67,14.73,1.85,0.5 0,0.16,1.05,0.23,0.36,0.01,0.05

I removed Jew and Turkmen_Iraq, added Afghan-Turkmen


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 2.5923% / 2.59232541 | ADC: 0.25x
39.8 Pomak_Drama
21.2 Afghan_Turkmen
15.2 Pomak_Xanthi
12.6 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
2.4 Turk_South
0.2 Greek_Istanbul


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 4.1005% / 4.10047582 | ADC: 0.5x
82.6 Pomak_Drama
15.0 Afghan_Turkmen
2.4 Turk_North_West


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 6.6726% / 6.67256492 | ADC: 1x
93.6 Pomak_Drama
5.0 Afghan_Turkmen
1.4 Turk_North_West

Target: FTDNA
Distance: 8.4594% / 8.45941487 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama


Target: 23andme
Distance: 2.7845% / 2.78449423 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Pomak_Xanthi
18.8 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
15.2 Afghan_Turkmen
7.4 Turk_Cypriot
1.8 Greek_Andros_Island
1.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Target: 23andme
Distance: 4.6920% / 4.69198243 | ADC: 0.5x
44.4 Pomak_Xanthi
33.2 Pomak_Drama
9.0 GR_Peloponese
6.4 Afghan_Turkmen
4.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.2 Turk_North_West


Target: 23andme
Distance: 7.8851% / 7.88514401 | ADC: 1x
86.6 Pomak_Drama
13.4 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: 23andme
Distance: 8.3409% / 8.34092321 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama


Very Pomak compared to you

Thracian
01-03-2020, 09:17 PM
I removed Jew and Turkmen_Iraq, added Afghan-Turkmen


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 2.5923% / 2.59232541 | ADC: 0.25x
39.8 Pomak_Drama
21.2 Afghan_Turkmen
15.2 Pomak_Xanthi
12.6 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
2.4 Turk_South
0.2 Greek_Istanbul


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 4.1005% / 4.10047582 | ADC: 0.5x
82.6 Pomak_Drama
15.0 Afghan_Turkmen
2.4 Turk_North_West


Target: FTDNA
Distance: 6.6726% / 6.67256492 | ADC: 1x
93.6 Pomak_Drama
5.0 Afghan_Turkmen
1.4 Turk_North_West

Target: FTDNA
Distance: 8.4594% / 8.45941487 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama


Target: 23andme
Distance: 2.7845% / 2.78449423 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Pomak_Xanthi
18.8 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
15.2 Afghan_Turkmen
7.4 Turk_Cypriot
1.8 Greek_Andros_Island
1.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

Target: 23andme
Distance: 4.6920% / 4.69198243 | ADC: 0.5x
44.4 Pomak_Xanthi
33.2 Pomak_Drama
9.0 GR_Peloponese
6.4 Afghan_Turkmen
4.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
2.2 Turk_North_West


Target: 23andme
Distance: 7.8851% / 7.88514401 | ADC: 1x
86.6 Pomak_Drama
13.4 Pomak_Xanthi


Target: 23andme
Distance: 8.3409% / 8.34092321 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Pomak_Drama


Very Pomak compared to you

Adding Afghan_Turkmen makes sense but my results are almost the same except for pen=0.

This is logical that you have more Pomak than me since you are half Pomak. Also, FTDNA's 0.25X seems good to me for you. You can be modeled as half Pomak and half Balkan Turk.

Kaspias
01-03-2020, 10:10 PM
Adding Afghan_Turkmen makes sense but my results are almost the same except for pen=0.

This is logical that you have more Pomak than me since you are half Pomak. Also, FTDNA's 0.25X seems good to me for you. You can be modeled as half Pomak and half Balkan Turk.

I tried it with Deniz's results. From Razgrad, 1/8 Tatar

Target: Deniz
Distance: 3.0609% / 3.06088793 | ADC: 0.25x
15.4 Turk_Razgrad
13.8 Greek_Istanbul
13.2 Turk_Targovishte
13.0 Bulgarian
11.2 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
7.6 Turk_Dobrich
6.8 Turk_Stara-Zagora
6.4 Southwest_Russian
4.4 Lezgin
3.2 RU_Pinega
3.2 Selkup
1.8 Adygei

Target: Deniz
Distance: 5.2485% / 5.24851932 | ADC: 0.5x
53.6 Turk_Razgrad
19.8 Turk_Stara-Zagora
17.4 Turk_Dobrich
5.2 Turk_Targovishte
3.2 Kabardin
0.8 Selkup

Target: Deniz
Distance: 5.9852% / 5.98523449 | ADC: 1x
68.4 Turk_Razgrad
26.6 Turk_Stara-Zagora
5.0 Turk_Dobrich

Target: Deniz
Distance: 6.5587% / 6.55866602 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Turk_Razgrad

Without Balkan Turks

Target: Deniz
Distance: 3.8056% / 3.80564642 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
22.0 Romanian_Botosani
13.6 Turk_North_West
10.2 Bulgarian_Ruse
4.0 Turk_South
3.4 Afghan_Turkmen
3.0 Iranian_Jewish
1.0 Chechen
0.2 Turk_Anatolia

Target: Deniz
Distance: 4.7554% / 4.75542694 | ADC: 0.5x
58.6 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
23.4 Bulgarian_Ruse
14.8 Turk_North_West
2.2 Afghan_Turkmen
1.0 Turkmen


Target: Deniz
Distance: 6.7571% / 6.75708638 | ADC: 1x
71.2 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
15.6 Bulgarian_Ruse
6.4 Bulgarian_Eastern-Rhodopes
6.0 Turk_North_West
0.8 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace

Target: Deniz
Distance: 8.4577% / 8.45771246 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora

Zzzzz
01-03-2020, 11:05 PM
Hi, guys. I couldnt fell asleep this night so I decided to check you out 👀
I decided to try the code Kaspias shared in post 1447.
So here are my results. It's not bad, I see my city twice 😀
Distance to: Zzzzz
2.95907080 Bulgarian
3.66817393 Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.17160708 Macedonian
4.48927611 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.03085480 Romanian_Oltenia
5.05996047 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.19916339 Romanian_Muntenia
5.21919534 Macedonian_Northwest
5.64101941 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.80212030 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.82476609 Macedonian_Central
6.00385553 North_Macedonian
6.05788742 Macedonian_North
6.07160605 Romanian_Transylvania
6.14096898 Macedonian_East
6.16105510 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.21806240 Pomak_Drama
6.23028089 Bulgarian_Haskovo
6.24395708 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.45245690 Bulgarian_Pleven
6.46745700 Bulgarian_Central
6.47291279 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
6.53768343 Montenegrin
6.76656486 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.82381125 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

And the Single
Target: Zzzzz
Distance: 1.3785% / 1.37846321
40.2 Macedonian_Greece
25.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
10.0 Bulgarian_Southwest
8.6 Kaykavian_Croatian
5.2 Romanian_Transylvania
3.4 Bosniak_Tuzla
3.0 Romanian_Muntenia
2.6 Chechen
1.4 Turkmen

Kaspias
01-04-2020, 12:29 AM
Hi, guys. I couldnt fell asleep this night so I decided to check you out ��
I decided to try the code Kaspias shared in post 1447.
So here are my results. It's not bad, I see my city twice ��
Distance to: Zzzzz
2.95907080 Bulgarian
3.66817393 Pomak_Nevrokopi
4.17160708 Macedonian
4.48927611 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
5.03085480 Romanian_Oltenia
5.05996047 Bulgarian_Gabrovo
5.19916339 Romanian_Muntenia
5.21919534 Macedonian_Northwest
5.64101941 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.80212030 Bulgarian_Sofia
5.82476609 Macedonian_Central
6.00385553 North_Macedonian
6.05788742 Macedonian_North
6.07160605 Romanian_Transylvania
6.14096898 Macedonian_East
6.16105510 Greek_Northern-Thrace
6.21806240 Pomak_Drama
6.23028089 Bulgarian_Haskovo
6.24395708 Romanian_South_Central_Moldova
6.45245690 Bulgarian_Pleven
6.46745700 Bulgarian_Central
6.47291279 Bulgarian_Pazardzhik
6.53768343 Montenegrin
6.76656486 Bosniak_Sandzak
6.82381125 Bulgarian_Plovdiv

And the Single
Target: Zzzzz
Distance: 1.3785% / 1.37846321
40.2 Macedonian_Greece
25.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
10.0 Bulgarian_Southwest
8.6 Kaykavian_Croatian
5.2 Romanian_Transylvania
3.4 Bosniak_Tuzla
3.0 Romanian_Muntenia
2.6 Chechen
1.4 Turkmen

You can also try it with 0.25x, 0.5x, 1x. Could be more accurate, 0x is just a full gradient run, don't give certain clues.

Kaspias
01-04-2020, 02:17 AM
I prepared a comparison chart with the samples i posted. Also, clustering of samples can be found here:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311891-Genetic-comparison-of-Macedonia-Thrace-and-Bulgaria

Ikol
01-04-2020, 02:34 AM
Target: boris
Distance: 1.0338% / 1.03378916 | ADC: 0.25x
72.4 Croat_Split
18.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.8 Southwest_French
1.6 Sardinian
0.2 Mayan

Target: boris
Distance: 3.9145% / 3.91451371 | ADC: 2x
50.6 Croat_Split
49.4 Serb_Croatia

Target: boris
Distance: 3.1795% / 3.17950161 | ADC: 1x
76.8 Croat_Split
23.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.2 Trentino

Target: boris
Distance: 1.6990% / 1.69903693 | ADC: 0.5x
70.8 Croat_Split
20.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.2 Trentino
4.0 Southwest_French

What do u guys think?

Rgvgjhvv
01-04-2020, 02:43 AM
K13 updated:

4.28615212 Central_Greek
5.78754698 Apulia
5.90715456 GR_Peloponese
5.94154020 East_Sicilian
6.25845828 Molise
6.31321630 Greek_Andros_Island
6.69257051 Abruzzo
6.72305734 Campania
6.77154340 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
7.39051419 Sicily
7.42340218 Basilicata
7.43065273 Greek_Thessaly
7.52759590 Greek_Peloponnese
7.55198649 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
7.55904094 Greek_Western-Thrace
8.23489526 Malta
8.53954917 Ashkenazi
8.69136353 West_Sicilian
8.74621632 GR_Macedonia
8.89287917 Calabria
9.25984341 Greek_Istanbul
9.58738233 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
9.62464025 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
10.07909718 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
10.19223234 Albanian

Target: Markos
Distance: 1.3862% / 1.38620976

37.6 Greek_Northern-Thrace
20.4 Lebanese_Druze
20.4 Greek_Western-Thrace
10.6 Sardinian
6.0 Greek_Trabzon
3.4 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
0.8 Velamas
0.6 Spanish_Valencia
0.2 Karitiana

Target: Markos
Distance: 2.6905% / 2.69049107 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Central_Greek
21.4 Greek_Northern-Thrace
11.4 Ashkenazi
7.4 Greek_Symi_Island
6.6 Greek_Western-Thrace
3.8 Greek_Cappadocian
1.6 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
0.6 Sardinian

Rgvgjhvv
01-04-2020, 02:48 AM
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/17/74/03/177403356c65470ed3d05d9cde8b944c.jpg

Elias.99
01-04-2020, 04:35 AM
Target: Elias
Distance: 0.7022% / 0.70220439
25.2 Kurdish_Jewish
23.0 Libyan_Jewish
17.2 Mozabite_Berber
8.8 Sardinia
6.0 Georgian_imereti
4.8 Somali
3.2 Palestinian
1.8 Makrani
1.6 Yoruban
1.4 French_Basque
1.2 Saudi
1.0 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.8 Mayan
0.8 Mbuti_Pygmy
0.6 Bantu_S.E.
0.6 Maasai
0.6 Moroccan
0.4 Algerian
0.4 Dai
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Luhya


Target: Elias
Distance: 2.2028% / 2.20279523 | ADC: 0.25x
31.4 Syrian
29.0 Mozabite_Berber
14.4 Greek_Symi_Island
9.8 Turkish_mixed
7.2 Libyan_Jewish
4.2 Turkmen_Iraq
3.8 Hadza
0.2 Mayan

Target: Elias
Distance: 4.3613% / 4.36129022 | ADC: 0.5x
28.8 Syrian
27.8 Mozabite_Berber
18.2 Turk_Cypriot
14.2 Libyan_Jewish
8.0 Turk_Central_West
1.8 Turkish_mixed
1.2 Hadza


Lol any idea why my Jewish is so high when I scored 0% on MyHeritage?

Zzzzz
01-04-2020, 06:24 AM
Thanks, Kaspias, here it is with 0.25, 0,4 and 1.
Target: Zzzzz
Distance: 2.8330% / 2.83300651 | ADC: 1x
74.0 Pomak_Nevrokopi
15.0 Pomak_Plovdiv
7.6 Turk_Razgrad
3.4 Turk_N-Macedonia

Target: Zzzzz
Distance: 2.2106% / 2.21056087 | ADC: 0.5x
45.0 Pomak_Nevrokopi
26.8 Pomak_Plovdiv
22.6 Turk_Razgrad
5.6 Bulgarian_Ruse

Target: Zzzzz
Distance: 1.7733% / 1.77334847 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
16.4 Turk_Drama
14.0 Bulgarian_Burgas
8.8 Bulgarian_Ruse
6.4 Pomak_Nevrokopi
6.4 Turk_Razgrad
2.6 Bulgarian_Plovdiv
1.8 Bulgarian_North-Rhodope

Lucas
01-04-2020, 02:26 PM
K13 was updated with Kaspias Bulgarian, Pomak, Turk samples.

Dušan
01-04-2020, 04:09 PM
K13 updated

https://i.imgur.com/IlunS3C.jpg










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Ikol
01-04-2020, 04:25 PM
Target: boris
Distance: 0.4262% / 0.42622476
16.0 Pomak_Plovdiv
11.2 Polish
11.0 Macedonian_North
8.2 Latvian
7.0 German_east
6.8 Trentino
6.4 Bulgarian_Ruse
5.4 Vlach_North-Macedonia
5.0 Swiss_German
4.2 Sardinian
4.2 Bulgarian_Northwest
3.8 Welsh
3.8 Serb_North-Macedonia
2.8 French_Basque
2.0 Sardinia
0.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.6 Karitiana
0.6 Pomak_Kavala
0.2 Dai

Dude can u help me get this

Ikol
01-04-2020, 04:26 PM
Is this even accurate?

Lucas
01-04-2020, 04:36 PM
Target: boris
Distance: 0.4262% / 0.42622476
16.0 Pomak_Plovdiv
11.2 Polish
11.0 Macedonian_North
8.2 Latvian
7.0 German_east
6.8 Trentino
6.4 Bulgarian_Ruse
5.4 Vlach_North-Macedonia
5.0 Swiss_German
4.2 Sardinian
4.2 Bulgarian_Northwest
3.8 Welsh
3.8 Serb_North-Macedonia
2.8 French_Basque
2.0 Sardinia
0.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.6 Karitiana
0.6 Pomak_Kavala
0.2 Dai

Dude can u help me get this

click ADD DIST COL and post results with different values.

Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić
01-04-2020, 04:47 PM
Awesome work man. Here's my K13

https://i.imgur.com/Pl3ewY1.png

https://i.imgur.com/qsm0Mqm.png

https://i.imgur.com/zcDyDeT.png

Ikol
01-04-2020, 04:47 PM
click ADD DIST COL and post results with different values.

Distance: 1.0338% / 1.03378916 | ADC: 0.25x
72.4 Croat_Split
18.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
7.8 Southwest_French
1.6 Sardinian
0.2 Mayan

Target: boris
Distance: 3.9145% / 3.91451371 | ADC: 2x
50.6 Croat_Split
49.4 Serb_Croatia

Target: boris
Distance: 3.1795% / 3.17950161 | ADC: 1x
76.8 Croat_Split
23.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
0.2 Trentino

Target: boris
Distance: 1.6990% / 1.69903693 | ADC: 0.5x
70.8 Croat_Split
20.0 Bosniak_Sandzak
5.2 Trentino
4.0 Southwest_French

What do u think about the result, im noob at this. and im not even croat

Rgvgjhvv
01-04-2020, 06:47 PM
K13 Updated with Kaspias's populations:

Distance to: Markos
4.28615212 Central_Greek
5.78754698 Apulia
5.90715456 GR_Peloponese
5.94154020 East_Sicilian
6.25845828 Molise
6.31321630 Greek_Andros_Island
6.69257051 Abruzzo
6.72305734 Campania
6.77154340 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
7.39051419 Sicily
7.42340218 Basilicata
7.43065273 Greek_Thessaly
7.52759590 Greek_Peloponnese
7.55198649 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
7.55904094 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.69889602 Turk_Crete
8.23489526 Malta
8.53954917 Ashkenazi
8.69136353 West_Sicilian
8.74621632 GR_Macedonia
8.89287917 Calabria
9.25984341 Greek_Istanbul
9.58738233 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
9.62464025 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
9.73017195 Bulgarian_Thrace
9.96432637 Turk_Thessaloniki

Vid Flumina
01-04-2020, 07:00 PM
K12b updated

Target: VFlumina
Distance: 1.9450% / 1.94504022 | ADC: 0.25x
82.0 Italy_Aosta_Valley
10.8 Italy_Veneto
4.2 Abhkasians
1.4 Andalucia
1.4 Jatt
0.2 Lezgins

Target: VFlumina
Distance: 2.9143% / 2.91429129 | ADC: 0.5x
51.4 Italy_Aosta_Valley
47.4 Italy_Veneto
1.0 Jatt
0.2 Pathan

Target: VFlumina
Distance: 3.3184% / 3.31844629 | ADC: 1x
50.8 Italy_Aosta_Valley
49.2 Italy_Veneto


not bad - both Eurogenes and Dodecad consistently detect NW and NE Italian ancestry

JohnnyP
01-05-2020, 06:32 PM
94335

Moje ime
01-05-2020, 08:18 PM
https://i.imgur.com/oKR8Yqh.png

https://i.imgur.com/d1iALZD.png

Bosniensis
01-05-2020, 08:22 PM
K13 Updated

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 0.4685% / 0.46849257
16.4 Macedonian_Southwest
15.6 Macedonian_Greece
12.6 South_Polish
11.6 Pomak_Plovdiv
10.0 Austrian
7.2 Lithuanian
6.2 Macedonian_North
3.0 East_German
2.8 AostaValley
2.8 Trentino
2.2 Bulgarian_Ruse
2.0 Polish
1.8 Sakilli
1.4 Southeast_English
1.2 North_German
1.0 Bulgarian_Burgas
0.8 Lombardy
0.4 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.4 Malay
0.4 Sardinian
0.2 Greek_Caucasus

Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.2092% / 1.20920291 | ADC: 0.25x
85.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
10.8 Romanian_Transylvania
1.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.2 Macedonian
1.0 Trentino
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator

Moje ime
01-05-2020, 08:34 PM
https://i.imgur.com/QhL8RRf.png

https://i.imgur.com/Zu8ltSi.png

Moje ime
01-05-2020, 08:46 PM
Latest K13 ancient update doesn't have much sense to me. I get only some Hungarian and Moldavian samples.

vbnetkhio
01-05-2020, 08:48 PM
Latest K13 ancient update doesn't have much sense to me. I get only some Hungarian and Moldavian samples.

There was an update?

Moje ime
01-05-2020, 08:49 PM
There was an update?

Yes according to different results.

Lucas
01-06-2020, 10:55 AM
bump

vbnetkhio
01-06-2020, 12:57 PM
bump

add these if any of them is missing


Okunevo_RISE674,0,31.5,17.08,7.34,3.47,32.12,0,8.4 8,0,0,0,0,0
BOT14_Botai,0,12.65,24.51,10.58,4.15,42.99,0,5.12, 0,0,0,0,0
BOT15_Botai,0,8.07,23.38,9.83,8.86,47.6,0,2.25,0,0 ,0,0,0
Afanasievo_RISE511,0,0,2.02,0,27.89,44.12,0,25.97, 0,0,0,0,0
Afanasievo_RISE509,0,0,4.87,2.53,24.51,44.17,0,23. 92,0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya_Rise522,0,0,2.84,4.19,20.51,41.42,0,31.04, 0,0,0,0,0
Yamnaya_I0231,0,0,5.04,4.66,23.52,40.21,0,26.57,0, 0,0,0,0
Yamnaya_I0443,0,0,4.01,3.41,26.01,38.55,0,28.01,0, 0,0,0,0
Yamnaya_Rise548,0,0,1.52,0,28.56,45.46,0,24.46,0,0 ,0,0,0
Andronovo_Rise505,0,1.1,2.03,4.87,36.84,38.85,0,16 .31,0,0,0,0,0
Andronovo_Rise500,0,0,0.59,1.59,44.41,38.28,0.09,1 5.04,0,0,0,0,0
Andronovo_Rise503,0,0,0,0,50.12,33.6,0,16.28,0,0,0 ,0,0
Karasuk_Rise493,1.23,28.93,7.47,6.73,18.11,28.27,0 ,9.27,0,0,0,0,0
Karasuk_Rise495,1.58,31.41,7.18,3.89,20.28,26.92,0 ,7.56,0,0,1.18,0,0
Sintashta_Rise386,0,0,0,0,47.98,33.64,1.44,14.27,0 ,0,0,0,2.67
Sintashta_Rise395,0,0,0,0,47.31,38.38,2.16,11.65,0 ,0,0,0,0.5
Srubnaya_I0354,0,0,9.54,0,18.73,47.49,0,24.24,0,0, 0,0,0
Srubnaya_I0232,0,0,0.54,3.72,41.23,35.85,0,18.66,0 ,0,0,0,0
Srubnaya_I0430,0,0,0.85,0.86,45.12,32.7,3.29,17.18 ,0,0,0,0,0
Srubnaya_I0423,0,0,0,0,53.04,38.26,0,8.7,0,0,0,0,0
West_Siberia_I5766,0,9.92,19.95,12.62,2.51,50.97,0 ,4.02,0,0,0,0,0
Shamanka_EN_DA249,26.33,67.89,5.78,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0 ,0,0
Shamanka_EBA_DA337,11.79,66.22,10.27,0.34,4.87,5.8 ,0,0,0,0,0.38,0,0.34
Ust_Ida_LN_DA342,9.12,60.45,15.87,3.07,0,10.85,0,0 ,0,0,0.64,0,0
Kurma_EBA_DA358,9.43,64.49,9.53,0,3.66,12.48,0,0,0 ,0,0.4,0,0
Hajji_Firuz_BA_I4243,0,0,1.26,5.89,22.55,22.82,0,3 5.32,10.76,0,0.33,0.14,0.93
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_S8726.E1.L1,0,0,0,47.46,0,0,0,5 1.25,0,0,0,0,1.28
Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA3_S8728.E1.L1,0,1.01,0.55,74.01,0 ,0,0,21.82,0,0,1.13,0,1.47
Saidu Sharif_S7722.E1.L1,0.56,1.64,1.5,76.55,0,1.61,0,16 .26,0,0,0.93,0,0.94
Swat_S2270,0.22,4.54,1,44.64,1,7.3,0,37.64,1.21,1. 47,0.49,0.52,0
Kashkarchi_BA_I4153 ,0,0,3.97,4.85,35.93,37.39,0,17.85,0,0,0,0,0
Kashkarchi_BA_I4255 ,0,0.6,2.42,7.85,34.33,34.77,0,19.42,0,0,0.61,0,0
Turkmenistan_IA_DA382,0,0,0.73,8.06,22.95,21.56,0, 46.02,0.69,0,0,0,0
Namazga_DA381,0,0,0,9.17,0,0.86,0,75.81,13.13,0,0, 0,1.04
Gonur_outlier_I1783,0,0.65,8.09,23.01,0.86,16.21,0 ,50.16,0,0,0,0,1.01
Dzharkutan2_BA_I4901 ,3.9,4.82,0.77,4.87,6.82,11.2,4.8,45.26,15.22,1.87 ,0,0,0.46
Kok_Mardan_DA123,0,8.1,1.91,2.64,29.55,23.49,0,33. 58,0,0,0,0,0.74
Tagar_DA2,0,7.53,5.59,0,31.71,35.39,1.19,18.59,0,0 ,0,0,0
Tagar_DA4,0,9.66,4.06,0,38.76,33.53,0,13.47,0,0,0, 0,0.51
Tagar_DA8,0,10.61,4.37,2.05,31.96,34.03,0,16.97,0, 0,0,0,0
Central_Saka_DA13,4.88,26.54,7.1,0.34,17.37,28.19, 0,15.58,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA47,0,11.88,4.9,7.31,21.29,28.09,0 ,25.45,0,0,0,0,1.08
Out_Tian_Shan_Saka_DA56,3.89,19,5.15,4.84,23.66,23 .7,0,19.75,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA57,0,12.56,3.71,5.14,23.84,28.61, 0,26.14,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA58,0,7.65,2.05,5.27,28.57,22.74,0 .39,32.59,0,0,0,0,0.75
Tian_Shan_Saka_DA59,2.38,14.02,3.11,9.08,21.72,23. 93,0,22.4,0,0,0.79,0,2.56
Alan_DA162,0,0,0,0,38.69,7.62,32.78,2.61,17.82,0.4 9,0,0,0
Alan_DA243,0,0.55,1.54,2.65,13.57,18.64,8.25,42.37 ,12,0.43,0,0,0
Nomad_IA_DA129,0,12.03,4.35,6.68,24.5,24.05,0,28.3 9,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_IA_DA221,3.19,19.13,5.46,7.11,20.1,26.27,0,1 8.5,0,0,0.24,0,0
Aldy_Bel_IA_A17,12.2,33.26,6.63,4.38,13.98,20.59,0 ,7.84,0,0,0,0,1.11
Aldy_Bel_IA_A10,5.11,19.96,6.23,5.9,17.44,28.8,0,1 6.11,0,0,0,0.45,0
Early_Sarmatian_IA_PR9,2.28,4.14,3.43,6.73,28.17,2 6.14,0,27.7,0,0,0.76,0,0.65
Early_Sarmatian_IA_PR3,0.31,7.11,3.09,8.75,26.43,3 0.43,0,23.72,0,0,0,0,0.17
Sarmatian_DA30,0,1.95,1.63,3.49,29.91,26.58,0,34.5 5,0,0,0,0,1.88
Pazyryk_IA_Be9,12.43,35.22,6.73,5.47,7.38,19.04,0, 12.15,0,0,1.59,0,0
Pazyryk_IA_Be11,17.31,42.3,3.89,3.56,10.1,14.66,0, 7.56,0,0,0.08,0,0.53
Zevakino_Chilikta_IA_IS2,2.84,16.83,6.16,8.93,14.6 6,24.4,5.28,20.71,0,0,0,0.19,0
Zevakino_Chilikta_IA_Ze6,20.63,27.38,4.93,2.72,8.0 4,13.71,0,17.7,1.76,0,1.09,0.42,1.63
Hungarian_Scythian_DA198,0,0,0,0,38.69,7.62,32.78, 2.61,17.82,0.49,0,0,0
Xiong-Nu_WE_DA38,9.34,23.16,6.88,10.56,11.23,18.85,0,19. 99,0,0,0,0,0
Xiong-Nu_DA39,50.07,44.27,0.43,0,4.02,0,0,1.21,0,0,0,0,0
Xiong-Nu_WE_DA41,10.57,25.58,3.69,7.59,18.39,17.35,0,14. 36,0,0,0,0,2.47
Xiong-Nu_DA43,72.63,24.92,0,0,1.45,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0
Xiong-Nu_DA45,70.38,23.8,0.69,0,1.77,0,0,0,0,1.58,0.34,0 ,1.38
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA65,7.91,19.42,4.49,6.5,21.19,19.16 ,0.77,15.22,0,0,1.39,0,3.96
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA74,6.01,23.43,2.86,2.62,27.15,20.5 6,0,17.37,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA81,0,12.32,4.09,8.18,25.28,24.31,0 .91,24.92,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA85,0,13.5,3.83,8.48,21.3,27.77,0,2 5.13,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA100,4.51,23.45,4.88,6.38,20.37,22. 05,0,18.36,0,0,0,0,0
Tian_Shan_Hun_DA385,5.36,26.72,4.32,5.35,19.57,21. 22,0,17.46,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_Hun-Sarmatian_DA27,34.55,53.01,0.94,0,3.56,5.14,0.06,2 .12,0,0,0.61,0,0
Nomad_Hun_Period_DA95,21.44,60.84,2.08,0,0,9.96,0, 5.69,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_Hun_Period_DA177,27.95,63.53,2.74,0,2.54,0.7 ,0,2.55,0,0,0,0,0
Wusun_DA223,0,8.85,4.39,9.52,18.13,25.07,0,34.04,0 ,0,0,0,0
Kangju_DA206,0,1.37,1.33,7.37,24.12,21.19,0.11,35. 86,8.65,0,0,0,0
Kipchak_DA23,12.81,42.81,2.35,1.82,10.91,17.74,0,1 1.56,0,0,0,0,0
Kipchak_DA179,11.43,9.16,0,7.22,13.12,15.17,2.67,2 1.93,14.8,3.97,0,0,0.53
Turk_DA86,9.07,35.4,4.29,0,16.09,22.18,0,11.81,0,0 ,0,0,1.16
Turk_DA89,5.22,26.19,0,0,23.48,24.21,0,17.1,0,0,0, 0,3.81
Turk_DA228,18.55,19.09,1.03,0.5,18.7,21.42,5.4,11. 59,3.71,0,0,0,0
Karluk_DA222,12.85,31.89,1.84,8.51,4.31,12.74,0.87 ,25.56,1.42,0,0,0,0
Karluk_DA230,14.46,25.27,0.97,3.81,18.3,9.82,0.19, 22.86,3.95,0.31,0,0,0
Karakhanid_DA204,11.26,28.02,4,3.88,18.61,15.33,0, 18.89,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_Medieval_DA93,9.28,38.42,5.47,0.68,12.95,20. 65,0,12.53,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_Medieval_DA118,22.03,65.82,1.55,0,6.73,2.31, 0,1.57,0,0,0,0,0
Nomad_Medieval_DA124,11.59,26.68,1.41,0.92,22.6,10 .2,0,17.19,6.97,1.11,0,0,1.33
Nomad_Medieval_DA126,13.45,13.74,1.25,0.11,27,19.3 4,0.37,19.75,0,0,0,0,5.02
Nomad_Medieval_DA142,4.67,25.33,1.99,2.24,18.69,25 .77,3.42,17.69,0,0,0.22,0,0
Golden_Horde_Asian_DA28,23.68,70.32,1.99,0,0,2.38, 1.13,0.5,0,0,0,0,0

vbnetkhio
01-06-2020, 01:13 PM
Target: Bosniensis
Distance: 1.2092% / 1.20920291 | ADC: 0.25x
85.4 South_Croat_Morlach_Cluster
10.8 Romanian_Transylvania
1.4 Austroasiatic_Ho
1.2 Macedonian
1.0 Trentino
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator

wow, you really are a Vlach

vbnetkhio
01-06-2020, 03:34 PM
bump

could you replace Croat_Bosnia with these 2? i ran all the academics through k13



Croat_Bosnia,26.85,32.16,15.72,7.30,13.75,1.74,0.7 3,0.21,0.56,0.28,0.52,0.10,0.09
Croat_Herzegovina,25.99,33.19,15.00,8.53,13.27,1.1 1,0.95,0.05,0.72,0.74,0.45,0.00,0.00

btw what's with Romanian Oltenia in the end? did you update it?

Leto
01-06-2020, 05:08 PM
bump
AlexRus' results. I think you know the guy, he is very notorious :D

K13

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 1.5439% / 1.54390766
40.4 Southwest_Russian
37.8 Lithuanian
15.0 Erzya
3.8 Sardinian
1.8 Ashkenazi
1.2 Karitiana

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 1.7909% / 1.79087952 | ADC: 0.25x
51.2 Southwest_Russian
38.6 Estonian_Polish
8.2 Erzya
1.0 Karitiana
1.0 Sardinian

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 2.2736% / 2.27360477 | ADC: 0.5x
70.6 Southwest_Russian
26.6 Estonian_Polish
2.2 Kargopol_Russian
0.6 Mayan

K15

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 2.8498% / 2.84983284
42.0 Ukrainian
31.0 Erzya
21.2 Estonian
5.2 West_Norwegian
0.6 Karitiana

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 2.9890% / 2.98898740 | ADC: 0.25x
48.2 Ukrainian
25.4 Erzya
23.4 Estonian
2.8 North_Swedish
0.2 Karitiana

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 3.2225% / 3.22250137 | ADC: 0.5x
55.0 Ukrainian
24.6 Estonian
20.4 Erzya

EUtest

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 2.6488% / 2.64875516
39.4 LIT
28.4 Ukrainian-Russian
9.8 East_Finnish
7.8 South_&_Central_Swedish
5.2 East_Russian
5.2 Komi
2.8 Lezgin
1.0 Sardinian
0.4 NO

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 2.9210% / 2.92096174 | ADC: 0.25x
56.8 Ukrainian-Russian
21.4 LIT
16.2 East_Finnish
5.2 South_&_Central_Swedish
0.4 Lezgin

Target: AlexRus
Distance: 3.4063% / 3.40628436 | ADC: 0.5x
66.2 Ukrainian-Russian
25.2 EE
6.6 East_Finnish
2.0 West_Russian

Lucas
01-06-2020, 05:14 PM
AlexRus' results. I think you know the guy, he is very notorious :D


He is from Anthrogenica only?

Leto
01-06-2020, 05:18 PM
He is from Anthrogenica only?
Nope. He's been banned here at least 5 times xD

Gwydion
01-06-2020, 09:06 PM
Somewhat surprising results for someone roughly 50-60% English, 30-40% Irish, and the rest German. My theory that I have distant Swedish/Finnish and some sort of Volga-region admixture via probable Volga German ancestry can be evidenced in the results:

K13 Updated:

https://iili.io/HhsgfV.png

K15 Updated:

https://iili.io/HhsSiQ.png

Leto
01-07-2020, 07:59 PM
Arhat's wife (Russian)

K13

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.3646% / 1.36455268
61.8 Lithuanian
15.0 Ukrainian
9.6 North_Ossetian
7.8 Erzya
3.0 French_Basque
2.8 Estonian

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.1892% / 2.18924039 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Ukrainian_Belgorod
25.6 Polish
16.4 Kargopol_Russian
1.4 North_Ossetian

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.4962% / 2.49623961 | ADC: 0.5x
73.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.4 Polish
9.4 Kargopol_Russian

K15

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.2924% / 2.29237128
61.4 Estonian_Polish
10.8 Lithuanian
10.2 Chechen
9.8 Estonian
7.2 Southwest_Finnish
0.6 French_Basque

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.8119% / 2.81191153 | ADC: 0.25x
38.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
38.4 Russian_Smolensk
7.6 Polish
6.6 Estonian
4.8 Southwest_Finnish
3.4 Chechen
0.4 East_Finnish

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 3.2472% / 3.24715141 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
26.2 Russian_Smolensk
10.6 Polish
4.4 Southwest_Finnish
0.6 Chechen

EUtest

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.9869% / 1.98693387
33.4 UA
30.6 LIT
14.4 Belorussian
10.2 Ukrainian-Russian
5.8 Komi
5.2 Druze
0.4 Selkup

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.3212% / 2.32115240 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 UA
31.8 Belorussian
26.4 Ukrainian-Russian
5.8 LIT
2.4 Druze
0.6 Nganassan

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 3.0150% / 3.01502096 | ADC: 0.5x
53.0 UA
34.6 Ukrainian-Russian
12.4 Belorussian

MDLP K23b

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.6667% / 1.66673834
44.4 Kashub
29.8 Latvian
15.6 Pole
6.0 Georgian_Tbilisi
1.8 Khant
1.8 Nenets_Forest
0.6 Lahu

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.1844% / 2.18444001 | ADC: 0.25x
41.8 Ukrainian_East
26.2 Russian-Upper-Volga
20.8 Russian-West
5.4 Kashub
4.0 Russian_North
1.4 Georgian_Svan
0.4 Nganasan

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.5456% / 2.54561188 | ADC: 0.5x
40.0 Ukrainian_East
32.0 Russian_North
13.8 Russian-West
12.0 Russian-Upper-Volga
2.2 Moksha

Lucas
01-08-2020, 08:33 AM
Arhat's wife (Russian)

K13

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.3646% / 1.36455268
61.8 Lithuanian
15.0 Ukrainian
9.6 North_Ossetian
7.8 Erzya
3.0 French_Basque
2.8 Estonian

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.1892% / 2.18924039 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Ukrainian_Belgorod
25.6 Polish
16.4 Kargopol_Russian
1.4 North_Ossetian

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.4962% / 2.49623961 | ADC: 0.5x
73.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
17.4 Polish
9.4 Kargopol_Russian

K15

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.2924% / 2.29237128
61.4 Estonian_Polish
10.8 Lithuanian
10.2 Chechen
9.8 Estonian
7.2 Southwest_Finnish
0.6 French_Basque

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.8119% / 2.81191153 | ADC: 0.25x
38.8 Ukrainian_Belgorod
38.4 Russian_Smolensk
7.6 Polish
6.6 Estonian
4.8 Southwest_Finnish
3.4 Chechen
0.4 East_Finnish

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 3.2472% / 3.24715141 | ADC: 0.5x
58.2 Ukrainian_Belgorod
26.2 Russian_Smolensk
10.6 Polish
4.4 Southwest_Finnish
0.6 Chechen

EUtest

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.9869% / 1.98693387
33.4 UA
30.6 LIT
14.4 Belorussian
10.2 Ukrainian-Russian
5.8 Komi
5.2 Druze
0.4 Selkup

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.3212% / 2.32115240 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 UA
31.8 Belorussian
26.4 Ukrainian-Russian
5.8 LIT
2.4 Druze
0.6 Nganassan

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 3.0150% / 3.01502096 | ADC: 0.5x
53.0 UA
34.6 Ukrainian-Russian
12.4 Belorussian

MDLP K23b

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 1.6667% / 1.66673834
44.4 Kashub
29.8 Latvian
15.6 Pole
6.0 Georgian_Tbilisi
1.8 Khant
1.8 Nenets_Forest
0.6 Lahu

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.1844% / 2.18444001 | ADC: 0.25x
41.8 Ukrainian_East
26.2 Russian-Upper-Volga
20.8 Russian-West
5.4 Kashub
4.0 Russian_North
1.4 Georgian_Svan
0.4 Nganasan

Target: Arhat_wife
Distance: 2.5456% / 2.54561188 | ADC: 0.5x
40.0 Ukrainian_East
32.0 Russian_North
13.8 Russian-West
12.0 Russian-Upper-Volga
2.2 Moksha

She is southern Russian? Constantly she has north Caucasian here.

Leto
01-08-2020, 10:00 AM
She is southern Russian? Constantly she has north Caucasian here.
Nope, 75% of her ancestry is from Vladimir and Ivanovo oblasts. She is fully Russian. I think that's because she scores 9% West Asian on Eurogenes which is a bit high for a Russian.

Moje ime
01-10-2020, 01:33 PM
What is going on with this? Latest update is bullshit still not reliable.

Wtf is Bulgarian Dupnitsa I get as first match in updated K13? My result is western shifted and can't be closest to any kind of Bulgarians.

Also in single ancient K13 I get only Hungarian mixed samples mix.
It says nothing.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310130-NEW!-All-Gedmatch-calculators-on-Vahaduo-ON-LINE&p=6435861&viewfull=1#post6435861

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310130-NEW!-All-Gedmatch-calculators-on-Vahaduo-ON-LINE&p=6435927&viewfull=1#post6435927

Dick
01-10-2020, 01:44 PM
What is going on with this? Latest update is bullshit still not reliable.

Wtf is Bulgarian Dupnitsa I get as first match in updated K13? My result is western shifted and can't be closest to any kind of Bulgarians.

Also in single ancient K13 I get only Hungarian mixed samples mix.
It says nothing.



I get Macedonian Guzica as first match.

Elias.99
01-10-2020, 02:47 PM
k13 updated

Distance: 0.7078% / 0.70777997
25.2 Libyan_Jewish
24.0 Kurdish_Jewish
15.4 Mozabite_Berber
9.0 Sardinia
6.4 Georgian_imereti
3.8 Somali
2.2 Saudi
2.0 Palestinian
1.8 Makrani
1.6 Moroccan
1.4 Maasai
1.2 Ethiopian_Amhara
1.2 French_Basque
1.2 Yoruban
1.0 Bantu_S.E.
0.8 Mayan
0.8 Mbuti_Pygmy
0.4 Dai
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Biaka_Pygmy

Distance: 2.2065% / 2.20649931 | ADC: 0.25x
31.4 Syrian
29.0 Mozabite_Berber
14.0 Greek_Symi_Island
10.4 Turkish_mixed
7.4 Libyan_Jewish
3.8 Hadza
3.8 Turkmen_Iraq
0.2 Mayan

Distance: 4.3630% / 4.36299115 | ADC: 0.5x
28.6 Syrian
27.8 Mozabite_Berber
18.4 Turk_Cypriot
14.2 Libyan_Jewish
7.8 Turk_Central_West
2.0 Turkish_mixed
1.2 Hadza

Distance: 8.1494% / 8.14935752 | ADC: 1x
46.2 Turk_Cypriot
30.4 Libyan_Jewish
12.2 Tunisian
8.4 Syrian
2.8 Mozabite_Berber

Distance: 10.0749% / 10.07492385 | ADC: 2x
58.8 Libyan_Jewish
41.2 Turk_Cypriot

Elias.99
01-10-2020, 03:16 PM
Dodecad k12b

Target: Elias
Distance: 15.7024% / 15.70241587 | ADC: 2x
76.4 Morocco_Jews
23.6 Egyptans

Target: Elias
Distance: 9.2864% / 9.28643745 | ADC: 1x
42.0 Morocco_Jews
25.0 Egyptans
22.8 Algerian
6.2 Turkmen_Iraq
4.0 Yoruk

Target: Elias
Distance: 3.2534% / 3.25335189 | ADC: 0.5x
41.0 Algerian
36.2 Turkmen_Iraq
12.8 Morocco_Jews
10.0 Egyptans

Target: Elias
Distance: 1.6979% / 1.69787056 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Algerian
32.2 Turkmen_Iraq
7.8 Egyptans
7.8 Iranians
7.6 Morocco_Jews
0.6 ASW30

Target: Elias
Distance: 0.0696% / 0.06959408
8.2 Moroccans
7.2 Moroccan
6.6 Mozabite
5.6 Jordanians
4.6 Assyrian
4.4 Iraq_Jews
4.2 Georgia_Jews
4.0 Morocco_Jews
3.8 Brahui
3.4 Bedouin
3.2 Makrani
2.8 Algerian
2.8 Egyptans
2.6 Armenian_West
2.6 Sardinian
2.0 Canarias
2.0 Lebanese
2.0 Murcia
1.8 Ethiopian_Jews
1.8 Turkmen_Iraq
1.6 Mandenka
1.4 Iranian_Jews
1.4 Italy_Abruzzo
1.4 Kurds
1.4 Sephardic_Jews
1.4 Yemen_Jews
1.2 Hemshin
1.2 Palestinian
1.0 Andalucia
1.0 Samaritians
1.0 Saudis
0.8 Bantu_S.W._Ovambo
0.8 Dai
0.8 Druze
0.8 Laz
0.6 Kurd_Sorani
0.6 Portuguese
0.4 Bantu_S.E._S.Sotho
0.4 Bantu_S.E._Zulu
0.4 Greek_Pontus
0.4 Italy_Emilia
0.4 Italy_Lazio
0.4 Italy_Calabria
0.4 Nusayri_Turkey
0.4 Yemenese
0.2 Bantu_N.E.
0.2 Bantu_S.E._Pedi
0.2 Chinese
0.2 Cypriots
0.2 Ethiopians
0.2 French_Basque
0.2 Iranians
0.2 France_Corsica
0.2 Italy_Apulia
0.2 Miaozu
0.2 Somali
0.2 Syrians
0.2 Turk_Ahiska
0.2 Yoruba

CLEAR OUTPUT
CYCLES - 1XADD DIST COL - 2XPRINT ZEROES - NOAGGREGATE - YESADD BAR CHART - MODE 1
Elias