Classify Volga Tatar girl

[Ymyyakhtakh]

She was born in 1992, but these photos are from 2010-2013.

https://i.imgur.com/8ufZ7oR.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/iMqg2eL.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ihiumNI.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/aMU7PLi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ZmGhVcG.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/rU6zRqp.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/yWQS6i7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/ouRPz36.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/sRlhVIA.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Vu00Vb7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/cTJaPBH.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/hgO2OZb.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/P05CEc1.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/LhgTsa8.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/5MmTAx0.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/c8FTOqB.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/yE8kclw.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NlLlDBB.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/g4Iu0GC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/y2Gf4y1.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/vJ03uZh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Fqm8649.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/y8F9t1z.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/LoT6E07.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/696sbdu.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/QuJyfew.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xgq8Im2.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/vYTK35C.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/D39NZvi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/dgqyTDx.jpg

^ The girl on the right in the last photo is a Finnish Tatar basketball player.

[Satem]

I would say Gorid

[chociprasa]

Savolaxid + Volgid.

[Bakha]

East Baltid

[Ymyyakhtakh]

People are saying that Putin looks Mongoloid or whatever, but look at how big this girl's face is compared to Putin:

https://i.imgur.com/iVMGmUT.jpg

Her mom is more leptoprosopic:

https://i.imgur.com/PGJCzrk.jpg

[Östsvensk]

Volgid + East Baltid seems about right, I think.

Her mother looks similar to a Finn who I used to know.

[Laag]

Beauty. Pass as Komi or Mari.

[Davy Jones's Locker]

East Baltid

My opinion also.

[kiko]

East Baltic + Borreby

She could pass as a North American Castiza (like a Nordish type + residual Silvid, Pacifid, Eskimid, Pueblid, or Margid influence).

[vorobuthek]

suburalid/sublappid

[Kivan]

Nordic/Alpine/Uralid mix.

[dududud]

She is cute. Good eyes.

[vorobuthek]

People are saying that Putin looks Mongoloid

He looks like Udmurt, due to old age and Botox. In his youth, he looks 100% euro.
https://s12.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/6703186/inx960x640.jpg

https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/d5efc89c5852185b777744e15bed0f50.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

suburalid/sublappid

It's funny how Bunak called the sub-Uralid type (which was associated with Maris and Chuvashes) a weaker form of the sub-Lappid type (which was associated with Udmurts and Komi-Permyaks), even though in terms of Mongoloid admixture, probably Maris > Udmurts > Chuvashes > Komi-Permyaks. Maybe it's because old school physical anthropology relied so heavily on cephalic index as a racial differentiator.

From Bunak 1932 (https://www.jstor.org/stable/25749116?read-now=1&seq=25#metadata_info_tab_contents):


Der Lappische Typus (Nr. 6) entspricht der bekannten Lappischen Rasse von Deniker, Der Wolga-Finnische Typus (Nr. 7) — mesocephal, dunkel, von niedrigem Wuchs — wurde schon friiher von mir analysiert (1924) und als "Suburaler", als eine Variante der uralischen (Woghulischen) Rasse Deniker's bezeichnet. Der Wjatka-Kama-Typus (Nr. 8), der der Färbung und einiger anderen Merkmale nach dem Suburalischen nahe steht, unterscheidet sich von diesem durch größeren Kopfindex, kleineren Gesichtsindex und einige andere Besonderheiten. Diese Merkmale nähern den Wjatka-Kama-finnischen Typus dem lappischen, identifizieren ihn mit letzerem aber nicht, und er kann aus diesem Grunde als eine abgeshwächte Form der lappischen Rasse, nach Analogie mit der vorhegehenden als eine sublappische Rasse bezeichnet werden.

Translated:


The Lappid type (No. 6) corresponds to the well-known Lappid race of Deniker, The Volga-Finnic type (No. 7) - mesocephalic, dark, of low stature - was analyzed by me earlier (1924) and described as "Subural", as a variant of Deniker's Uralic (Vogulic) race. The Vyatka-Kama type (No. 8), which is close to the Sub-Uralic type in terms of its coloring and some other characteristics, differs from it because of a larger cephalic index, a smaller facial index, and some other special features. These characteristics make the Vyatka-Kama Finnic type similar to the Lappid type, and for this reason it can be described as a weakened form of the Lappid race, analogous to the latter, as a sub-Lappid race.

https://i.imgur.com/WI7bpeq.jpg


He looks like Udmurt, due to old age and Botox. In his youth, he looks 100% euro.

He looks cute in the last pic lol.

[Laag]

He looks like Udmurt, due to old age and Botox. In his youth, he looks 100% euro.
https://s12.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/6703186/inx960x640.jpg


Like Udmurt with such ugly visible upper eyelids? Impossible.
Actual Udmurt.
http://static.biathlonrus.com/content/media/55926/0131E1387A3F94B716B0.jpg

Udmurts like all Uralische people have superior hooded eyes.
Visible upper eyelids is woggy, MENA traits atypical for white people.
https://static.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20191214/c1_3448854.jpg

[Laag]

Nordic/Alpine/Uralid mix.

Nothing Nordic or Alpine about her. As I've said many times Uralische girls pass as Aryan in brown countries like Turkey or something. Also "Alpine/Uralid mix" sounds like water is wet. Probaly this girl has a bit softer features in comparison with this Khanty girl https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311085-Classify-Khanty-beauty
but this nothing to do with Alpine influence

Bunak claimed that the Uralische race inherited the features of the oldest "undifferentiated" anthropological complex (type), which existed even before the division of mankind into Caucasoid and Mongoloid racial trunks.

That Khanty girls shows strong UP features in unchanged form. There were no "Alpines" during Upper Paleolithic period. Alpines is the result of degradation and infantilization ancient UP population.
The OP girl has undergone some infantilization but still shows UP features in some softened form unlike the majority of Alpines.

[vorobuthek]

Like Udmurt with such ugly visible upper eyelids? Impossible.
Actual Udmurt.
http://static.biathlonrus.com/content/media/55926/0131E1387A3F94B716B0.jpg

Udmurts like all Uralische people have superior hooded eyes.
Visible upper eyelids is woggy, MENA traits atypical for white people.
https://static.bangkokpost.com/media/content/20191214/c1_3448854.jpg

He looks like Udmurt in the second photo, after many Botox injections.

https://www.meme-arsenal.com/memes/d5efc89c5852185b777744e15bed0f50.jpg

[Rico33]

Could pass here.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Like Udmurt with such ugly visible upper eyelids? Impossible.

...

Udmurts like all Uralische people have superior hooded eyes.
Visible upper eyelids is woggy, MENA traits atypical for white people.

Yeah, Putin had lazy-looking eyes even as a kid, because he had such high upper eyelid exposure. Therefore even if his palpebral fissure height would be fairly low, he still doesn't have Finno-Permic eye shape:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/23/bd/1e/23bd1e23974d9dbfbdc94b13ec5cf559.jpg

He looked like Macauley Culkin, who also has high upper eyelid exposure.


Nothing Nordic or Alpine about her. As I've said many times Uralische girls pass as Aryan in brown countries like Turkey or something. Also "Alpine/Uralid mix" sounds like water is wet. Probaly this girl has a bit softer features in comparison with this Khanty girl https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311085-Classify-Khanty-beauty
but this nothing to do with Alpine influence

Bunak claimed that the Uralische race inherited the features of the oldest "undifferentiated" anthropological complex (type), which existed even before the division of mankind into Caucasoid and Mongoloid racial trunks.

That Khanty girls shows strong UP features in unchanged form. There were no "Alpines" during Upper Paleolithic period. Alpines is the result of degradation and infantilization ancient UP population.
The OP girl has undergone some infantilization but still shows UP features in some softened form unlike the majority of Alpines.

Oldschool physical anthropologists (and people like the German who made humanphenotypes.com and the Norwegian who made SNPA) appear to have been biased in favor of the gracile dolichocephalic/leptomorphic types. Therefore maybe they have created an unduly negative image of Alpinids.

Brachycephalic blonde Alpinid from the surroundings of Zürich by Biasutti (https://archive.org/details/lerazzeeipopolid02bias/page/138):

https://i.imgur.com/FSk6EmO.jpg

Out of the morphs of Swiss hockey players below, I think the morphs on the left side with more Alpinid-like features look the best:

https://i.imgur.com/CcDcjq0.jpg

[nittionia]

i will always read tatar as tartar sauce

[Laag]

Uralicshe race looks badass in comparison with Alpine race. Alpine men have infantile baby face in comparison with CM-looking Uralische men.
https://i.imgur.com/FBsfTgl.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe112.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe134.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe122.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe121.jpg

[RandomGuy20]

East Baltid

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Out of these types, the girl in this thread would probably be sub-Lappid (https://nomadica.ru/biblioteka/se_42_3_trofimova.html):

https://i.ibb.co/d5X6LWm/tatar-anthropological-types-trofimova.jpg


3) Третий компонент, выделяющийся среди татар Среднего Поволжья, занимает особое место в систематике рас. Это – так называемый сублапоноидный тип (Вятско-Камская раса по Бунаку), суббрахикефальный, со смешанной пигментацией волос и глаз, с широким носом, с невысоким переносьем, с прямой или вогнутой спинкой, с большой складкой века, со слабо развитой бородой, с невысоким и среднешироким лицом. Рост ниже среднего. Эпикантус обычно отсутствует или встречается изредка (рис. 3).

Google translation:


3) The third component, distinguished among the Tatars of the Middle Volga, occupies a special place in the taxonomy of races. This is the so-called sub-laponoid type (Vyatka-Kama race according to Bunak), sub-brachycephalic, with mixed pigmentation of hair and eyes, with a wide nose, with a small nose, with a straight or concave back, with a large fold of the eyelid, with a weakly developed beard, with a low and medium wide face. Growth below average. Epicanthus is usually absent or rare (Fig. 3).

[Laag]

Out of these types, the girl in this thread would probably be sub-Lappid (https://nomadica.ru/biblioteka/se_42_3_trofimova.html):

https://i.ibb.co/d5X6LWm/tatar-anthropological-types-trofimova.jpg


3) Третий компонент, выделяющийся среди татар Среднего Поволжья, занимает особое место в систематике рас. Это – так называемый сублапоноидный тип (Вятско-Камская раса по Бунаку), суббрахикефальный, со смешанной пигментацией волос и глаз, с широким носом, с невысоким переносьем, с прямой или вогнутой спинкой, с большой складкой века, со слабо развитой бородой, с невысоким и среднешироким лицом. Рост ниже среднего. Эпикантус обычно отсутствует или встречается изредка (рис. 3).

Google translation:


3) The third component, distinguished among the Tatars of the Middle Volga, occupies a special place in the taxonomy of races. This is the so-called sub-laponoid type (Vyatka-Kama race according to Bunak), sub-brachycephalic, with mixed pigmentation of hair and eyes, with a wide nose, with a small nose, with a straight or concave back, with a large fold of the eyelid, with a weakly developed beard, with a low and medium wide face. Growth below average. Epicanthus is usually absent or rare (Fig. 3).

Her Syblaponoid type is similar to the East Baltic type by other authors.
From Aul
Example of an Estonian of the East Baltic type.
https://i.imgur.com/cAZT4mx.png
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?291469-Plates-from-Anthropology-of-the-Estonians
Or from Cheboksarov
Example of a Komi of the East Baltic type.
https://i.imgur.com/BMxWSvO.jpg