My Y-37 results

[Daos777]

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Biggest waste of money ever.......

I just bought Y-67


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[Mortimer]

At 12 markers I also have Italy at 27 I have a whole list of countries and at 37 markers I have Bosnia and Herzegowina. I just posted the 37 marker match because thats the closest and most refined of them all. I think the higher markers you test the more refined it is.

[Mortimer]

12 Marker
EXACT MATCH
Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments
Italy 1 6397 < 0.1 %
GENETIC DISTANCE -1
Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments
Belgium 1 914 0.1%
Bosnia and Herzegovina 2 284 0.7%
Bulgaria 1 693 0.1%
Croatia 1 497 0.2%
Cyprus 1 92 1.1%
England 4 43417 < 0.1 %
France 1 7131 < 0.1 %
Germany 9 23233 < 0.1 %
Greece 1 1486 0.1%
Iraq 1 1966 0.1%
Italy 2 6397 < 0.1 %
Montenegro 2 119 1.7%
Palestinian Territory 1 312 0.3%
Scotland 3 20555 < 0.1 %
Serbia 1 309 0.3%
South Africa 1 177 0.6%
Spain 2 5878 < 0.1 %
Syrian Arab Republic 2 515 0.4%
Turkey 1 1516 0.1%
United Kingdom 1 15262 < 0.1 %
Yemen 1 703 0.1%
25 Marker
No Matches Found
37 Marker
GENETIC DISTANCE -4
Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments
Bosnia and Herzegovina 1 193 0.5%

[Daos777]

12 Marker
EXACT MATCH
CountryMatch TotalCountry TotalPercentageComments
Italy16397< 0.1 %
GENETIC DISTANCE -1
CountryMatch TotalCountry TotalPercentageComments
Belgium19140.1%
Bosnia and Herzegovina22840.7%
Bulgaria16930.1%
Croatia14970.2%
Cyprus1921.1%
England443417< 0.1 %
France17131< 0.1 %
Germany923233< 0.1 %
Greece114860.1%
Iraq119660.1%
Italy26397< 0.1 %
Montenegro21191.7%
Palestinian Territory13120.3%
Scotland320555< 0.1 %
Serbia13090.3%
South Africa11770.6%
Spain25878< 0.1 %
Syrian Arab Republic25150.4%
Turkey115160.1%
United Kingdom115262< 0.1 %
Yemen17030.1%
25 Marker
No Matches Found
37 Marker
GENETIC DISTANCE -4
CountryMatch TotalCountry TotalPercentageComments
Bosnia and Herzegovina11930.5%

Nice, you got a bunch of matches. Wtf is going on with mine? I didn’t even get any matches at 37 markers. Hopefully the Y-67 will show me something


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[Annihilus]

match @ 12 or 25 says nothing, even 37 doesn't mean a thing

here's mine @ 12 exact match

Country Match Total Country Total Percentage Comments
Austria 1 1348 0.1%
Canada 1 1367 0.1%
Czech Republic 2 1428 0.1%
England 5 43417 < 0.1 %
Greece 1 1486 0.1%
Hungary 1 2184 < 0.1 %
Norway 7 4093 0.2%
Poland 1 7553 < 0.1 %
Romania 1 989 0.1%
Russian Federation 2 10058 < 0.1 %
Saudi Arabia 3 7595 < 0.1 %
Scotland 4 20555 < 0.1 %
Slovenia 1 337 0.3%
Sweden 11 8356 0.1%
United Kingdom 1 15262 < 0.1 %

[Mortimer]

match @ 12 or 25 says nothing, even 37 doesn't mean a thing

Big Y is way too expensive. The Y 37 was on reduced sale for holidays.

[Daos777]

match @ 12 or 25 says nothing, even 37 doesn't mean a thing

here's mine @ 12 exact match

CountryMatch TotalCountry TotalPercentageComments
Austria113480.1%
Canada113670.1%
Czech Republic214280.1%
England543417< 0.1 %
Greece114860.1%
Hungary12184< 0.1 %
Norway740930.2%
Poland17553< 0.1 %
Romania19890.1%
Russian Federation210058< 0.1 %
Saudi Arabia37595< 0.1 %
Scotland420555< 0.1 %
Slovenia13370.3%
Sweden1183560.1%
United Kingdom115262< 0.1 %

67 mean anything?


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[Annihilus]

67 mean anything?


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I believe that could mean something with a very low genetic distance but chances are you'll get 0 results anyway. 67 would be to good explore a low 37 further.

Best thing to do for Y is if you can't afford big-Y is to join a group for your Y and ask the most economic way to test snp's downstream.

[Dick]

There was no need to upgrade to 67 if you have no 37 matches. You need to join various E projects on the ftdna website now and ask admins about your specific markers

[Mortimer]

There was no need to upgrade to 67 if you have no 37 matches. You need to join various E projects on the ftdna website now and ask admins about your specific markers

I posted my Y STR marker results in the Serbian DNA project. Maybe one of the admins can tell me something of it.

[Daos777]

There was no need to upgrade to 67 if you have no 37 matches. You need to join various E projects on the ftdna website now and ask admins about your specific markers

God damn it lol https://media3.giphy.com/media/YJjvTqoRFgZaM/giphy.gif

This is me on dna sites.

[Dick]

I posted my Y STR marker results in the Serbian DNA project. Maybe one of the admins can tell me something of it.

Good idea.

[Coastal Elite]

Can you just upload raw dna for this or does it require spiting again?

[Daos777]

Can you just upload raw dna for this or does it require spiting again?

It requires swabbing, for the Y-DNA. Even the useless upgrade I just purchased will require me to swab again.


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[Dick]

God damn it lol

This is me on dna sites.

Either way it's fine. One day you will have closer matches just be patient. Log on to ftdna, click on myprojects, then join a project. Then check the project to see if you have matches, some can have more markers than you as well and you might get a subclade that way.

[Daos777]

Either way it's fine. One day you will have closer matches just be patient. Log on to ftdna, click on myprojects, then join a project. Then check the project to see if you have matches, some can have more markers than you as well and you might get a subclade that way.

Joined the biggest E-M35 project (6,000 people) no matches. Fack lol.


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[Dick]

Joined the biggest E-M35 project (6,000 people) no matches. Fack lol.


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Join more, also join the serbian dna project. Email admins and ask them what they think about your marker results

[Kaspias]

No match even in 12

[Dick]

Maybe you are a rare branch like this one with a Ukrainian

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY34282/

[CommonSense]

Really odd to have only one match on 12 markers. I have several pages of them, and four matches on 37 markers.

Your branch must have been a really isolated one.

[Voskos]

Cool. I have no matches at all from y12 to y67 except an uncle of mine who tested.

[Daos777]

No match even in 12

What’s your Y-DNA?


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[Kaspias]

What’s your Y-DNA?


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Q-M242 > Q-L54 > Q-L330

[MagnusDark]

Technically we "match" all people within our clade back to the MRCA anyways. I am not sure what value Y12 matches hold compared to SNP matching. I have Y12 matches that are Z280 or even R1*. So technically, unless the Y12 match is your clade, they are not as close as everyone carrying your SNP. So a E-V13 who has a E1b* y12 match that is negative for V13 is still closer to all the other V13, whether he received them as a match with a closer distance level or not.

I have no Y37/67/111 matches myself(likely due to a founder effect). That could be the case for others in similar scenarios. My Closest and furthest Y12 are as follows:

Hume - British Isles - genetic distance 0 - R-M173

Contreras - Spain - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

Domsic - Croatia - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

(2)Bass - United States, Colorado - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

Vass - Menijhert, Hungary - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

Vetter - Germany - genetic distance 1 - R-L1029

Yambarske - West Prussia/Poland - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

Baxter - likely USA or British Isles - genetic distance 1 - R-Z92

Kniewel - Germany - genetic distance 1 - R-L1029

Shanner - Yorkshire, England - genetic distance 1 - R-YP445

Kalis - Germany - genetic distance 1 - R-L1029

Graff - Baretswil, Switzerland - genetic distance 1 - R-L1029

Drobyshevsky - Belarus - genetic distance 1 - R-M198

Lewonow - SE Belarus - genetic distance 1 - R-Y18348

Hamata - Germany - genetic distance 1 - R-YP1136

[vbnetkhio]

Q-M242 > Q-L54 > Q-L330

could it be proto-Ugric? it's found both in Khanty-Mansi and Hungarians

[Daos777]

Just talked to one of the admins he said that it’s not a waste of money that I ordered y-67
If I want to figure out my subclade. There isn’t enough STRs to figure it out from 37.

If you guys have yours you can use this website to predict your subclade.

http://www.nevgen.org/


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[Östsvensk]

Can you only buy Y-67 as an upgrade if you buy Y-37 first?

[Dick]

Just talked to one of the admins he said that it’s not a waste of money that I ordered y-67
If I want to figure out my subclade. There isn’t enough STRs to figure it out from 37.

If you guys have yours you can use this website to predict your subclade.

http://www.nevgen.org/


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That website was wrong for me

[Daos777]

Can you only buy Y-67 as an upgrade if you buy Y-37 first?

No. You can buy any package you want independently. If I was to do this again I’d just save up for the Big Y package. So I’m not tempted to keep upgrading which is going to prob cost more

[Daos777]

That website was wrong for me

Makes sense, it’s just a predictor so it’s not totally accurate. But that’s the only thing they suggested for me. How many STRs did you test to?

[Östsvensk]

No. You can buy any package you want independently. If I was to do this again I’d just save up for the Big Y package. So I’m not tempted to keep upgrading which is going to prob cost more

I wondered because I don't see Y-67 available on FTDNA. Only Y-37, Y-111 and Big Y. That made me think that they had retired the test.

[Dick]

Makes sense, it’s just a predictor so it’s not totally accurate. But that’s the only thing they suggested for me. How many STRs did you test to?

37, that might the reason why it was wrong though. Maybe with 67 it will be more accurate like the admin said. I upgraded to Big Y after,

[Kaspias]

could it be proto-Ugric? it's found both in Khanty-Mansi and Hungarians

It's root seems Turkic rather than Ugric. Perhaps both?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/Q-L330/

XiongNu and Avar elite had it. I also remember wegene show Korgun as my match. He was king of the one of the Göktürk-Turkic Khanate(Western) dynasties. Formed the Oghuz afterward.

[Daos777]

Got my y-67 results back and guess what they revealed? That I am E-V13. Fucking useless piece of crap. They shouldn't even market anything but the big Y because anything below that is useless. I can't even figure out my subclade of E-V13.

[Lemgrant]

Got my y-67 results back and guess what they revealed? That I am E-V13. Fucking useless piece of crap. They shouldn't even market anything but the big Y because anything below that is useless. I can't even figure out my subclade of E-V13.

hahahaha

[vbnetkhio]

Got my y-67 results back and guess what they revealed? That I am E-V13. Fucking useless piece of crap. They shouldn't even market anything but the big Y because anything below that is useless. I can't even figure out my subclade of E-V13.

did you try Nevgen?

str tests are meant for checking your distance in generations to other people in the database. you can only predict the haplogroup from them. i could've told you that.
e or e-v13 project admins should also be able to predict a deeper subclade for you

[Dragoon]

Got my y-67 results back and guess what they revealed? That I am E-V13. Fucking useless piece of crap. They shouldn't even market anything but the big Y because anything below that is useless. I can't even figure out my subclade of E-V13.

Had the same problem (different haplogroup). basically y12-24?-36 all the same result. even 23andme gives more accurate clade.
You might have to order some subclade package but anyway, ive wasted enough money on that crap.

[Daos777]

did you try Nevgen?

str tests are meant for checking your distance in generations to other people in the database. you can only predict the haplogroup from them. i could've told you that.
e or e-v13 project admins should also be able to predict a deeper subclade for you

Yeah I used Nevgen. That's where I got E-V13. On FTDNA website the prediction remains E-M35.

I asked the mods but all they said was the best thing you can do is use Nevgen to predict the deeper subclade. I'll ask them again now that I got my Y-67.

I just want to figure out my subclade because my matches make no sense. No matches in Balkans, only in Italy and Germany.

[vbnetkhio]

Yeah I used Nevgen. That's where I got E-V13. On FTDNA website the prediction remains E-M35.

I asked the mods but all they said was the best thing you can do is use Nevgen to predict the deeper subclade. I'll ask them again now that I got my Y-67.

I just want to figure out my subclade because my matches make no sense. No matches in Balkans, only in Italy and Germany.

just try nevgen with 67 markers.
and can you see your matches' subclades? it could be a Roman haplogroup

[Artek]

For some people Y67 works out, for some people it doesn't. I belong to the latter. I eventually ended in ordering Big Y test.

However, some people get more matches (or get their first meaningful match) after upgrading from Y37 to Y67. I have even seen cases of people that had no Y37 match and after an upgrade to Y67 got their first match/matches that later turned out to go 600-1300 years back.

No one knows that until results are ready, so there is no point in blaming yourself. Maybe thanks to the Y67 someone will pop up in the future.

[Daos777]

just try nevgen with 67 markers.
and can you see your matches' subclades? it could be a Roman haplogroup

Nevgen results probabilities.


E1b1b V13>>S7461 37.46

E1b1b V13 >> Y19509 35.37

26.87 probability of an unsupported clade

[Artek]

Nevgen results probabilities.


E1b1b V13>>S7461 37.46

E1b1b V13 >> Y19509 35.37

26.87 probability of an unsupported clade

Both of these lines share common branch of BY3880, so it is safe to say that you are at least BY3880: https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY3880/

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Dude, you need snp test. Str test is useless for subclades, it's useful for matches only. You wasted your money.
next time buy a real thing, this is what you're looking for

http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=2486