A rarity? E-V13 without Albanians?

[MiloshN]

How do you comment on this? E-V13 branch without Albanians?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY34282/

Your opinion ?

[Dick]

E-v13 is too broad of a category. It’s like saying just R1a or i2. There are different subclades

[Daos777]

Why is that surprising? E-V13 spread throughout Europe in the Bronze Age all those north European e-v13 and west European E-V13 has nothing to do with Albanian E-V13.

The best example of this is Bakha on this site he is Uzbeki and he is E-V13. You think his E-V13 comes from Albanians lol?


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[Leto]

The best example of this is Bakha on this site he is Uzbeki and he is E-V13. You think his E-V13 comes from Albanians lol?

That dickhead (now that he's banned I can mention him) is a hopeless mongrel, he's not an "Uzbeki", he changed his alleged background multiple times (Tajik - Iranian - Tatar - Uzbek). God only knows what his mother mixed with.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

That dickhead (now that he's banned I can mention him) is a hopeless mongrel, he's not an "Uzbeki", he changed his alleged background multiple times (Tajik - Iranian - Tatar - Uzbek). God only knows what his mother mixed with.

I appreciated his reflexive acts of calling others wogs.

[Dick]

That dickhead (now that he's banned I can mention him) is a hopeless mongrel, he's not an "Uzbeki", he changed his alleged background multiple times (Tajik - Iranian - Tatar - Uzbek). God only knows what his mother mixed with.

There was another rusiian,forgot his name, and he’s e-v13 but his paternal ancestor was from Odessa I think so probably from Greek colonists

[Leto]

I appreciated his reflexive acts of calling others wogs.
Yet he looks like one himself. He CANNOT pass as Russian or European/white despite his stupid claims.

[Leto]

There was another rusiian,forgot his name, and he’s e-v13 but his paternal ancestor was from Odessa I think so probably from Greek colonists
Norka? He's quarter Tatar, allegedly Crimean (autosomally more like Volga Tatar though) but yes, he's E-V13 for some reason.

[Coastal Elite]

I'm not sure mankind can ever fully grasp E-V13. It's beyond our comprehension. It might require aliens flying down to earth to explain it to us. In fact, E-V13 may have come from aliens. #DeepThoughts

[WeirdLookingFellow]

I'm not sure mankind can ever fully grasp E-V13. It's beyond our comprehension. It might require aliens flying down to earth to explain it to us. In fact, E-V13 may have come from aliens. #DeepThoughts

Dear diary, today, American Decebal told me I'm an alien.

[Pine]

1. E-V13' MRCA is 4800ybp
2. YFull uploads are voluntary - it doesn't show a clade's full diversity (there may be Albanians in that subclade)
3. Here is a more extreme one: https://yfull.com/tree/E-BY5787/

[Pine]

Norka? He's quarter Tatar, allegedly Crimean (autosomally more like Volga Tatar though) but yes, he's E-V13 for some reason.

It would be more odd not to find E-V13 in Crimean Tatars.

[Daos777]

I'm not sure mankind can ever fully grasp E-V13. It's beyond our comprehension. It might require aliens flying down to earth to explain it to us. In fact, E-V13 may have come from aliens. #DeepThoughts

I mean it’s pretty simple.

E-V13 comes from iberomaurusians crossing Mediterranean in the Mesolithic or even earlier. Their culture is centered around fishing and they like warmer climates so they stay in Southern Europe and never move to north Europe. They are found in all Southern Europe not just Balkans. Proven by the 7,000 year old sample in Spain.

Indo-Europeans come and assimilate them. They for some reason don’t get genocided like the I2 and other G2.


“What is surprising with E-V13 is that it is as common in R1a-dominant as in R1b-dominant countries. R1a Indo-European tribes are associated with the Corded Ware culture, which spanned across Northeast Europe, Scandinavia and the northern half of Central Europe. R1b tribes invaded the Balkans, the southern half of Central Europe, and joined up with Corded Ware people in what is now Germany, the Czech Republic and western Poland. If E-V13 was found among both groups, it would have needed to be either assimilated in the Pontic Steppe or very near from it (say, in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture, around western Ukraine, Moldova and Romania), or at the junction between the two groups in central Europe (e.g. around the Czech Republic).”

E-V13 in Uzbekis, Tajiks, Iranians, and Kurds can be explained by this

“The eastern advance of the Corded Ware culture eventually gave rise to the Sintashta culture in the Ural region, which is the ancestral culture of the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans. E-V13's presence in this culture would explain why modern Iranians and Kurds possess E-V13, in addition to R1a-Z93 and R1b-Z2103. E-V13 has been found as far away as central Siberia, near the Altai, a region also known to have been settled by Bronze Age Indo-Europeans.”


It’s only confusing to people because people still want E-V13 to be a Neolithic farmer haplo which it wasn’t and a bunch of confusion and illogical bullshit based on a retarded premise proven wrong already is what’s causing all this confusion. E-V13 did not come from the Levant or Anatolia period.

[Daos777]

1. E-V13' MRCA is 4800ybp
2. YFull uploads are voluntary - it doesn't show a clade's full diversity (there may be Albanians in that subclade)
3. Here is a more extreme one: https://yfull.com/tree/E-BY5787/

Where did this MRCA come from tho?

[Mingle]

That dickhead (now that he's banned I can mention him) is a hopeless mongrel, he's not an "Uzbeki", he changed his alleged background multiple times (Tajik - Iranian - Tatar - Uzbek). God only knows what his mother mixed with.

I think he added Tajik cause his Uzbek side was genetically more like an Uzbekified Tajik rather than a normal Uzbek. His dad was even West Asian shifted by Tajik standards IIRC.

[Dick]

I mean it’s pretty simple.

E-V13 comes from iberomaurusians crossing Mediterranean in the Mesolithic or even earlier. Their culture is centered around fishing and they like warmer climates so they stay in Southern Europe and never move to north Europe. They are found in all Southern Europe not just Balkans. Proven by the 7,000 year old sample in Spain.

Indo-Europeans come and assimilate them. They for some reason don’t get genocided like the I2 and other G2.


“What is surprising with E-V13 is that it is as common in R1a-dominant as in R1b-dominant countries. R1a Indo-European tribes are associated with the Corded Ware culture, which spanned across Northeast Europe, Scandinavia and the northern half of Central Europe. R1b tribes invaded the Balkans, the southern half of Central Europe, and joined up with Corded Ware people in what is now Germany, the Czech Republic and western Poland. If E-V13 was found among both groups, it would have needed to be either assimilated in the Pontic Steppe or very near from it (say, in the Cucuteni-Trypillian culture, around western Ukraine, Moldova and Romania), or at the junction between the two groups in central Europe (e.g. around the Czech Republic).”

E-V13 in Uzbekis, Tajiks, Iranians, and Kurds can be explained by this

“The eastern advance of the Corded Ware culture eventually gave rise to the Sintashta culture in the Ural region, which is the ancestral culture of the Indo-Iranian branch of Indo-Europeans. E-V13's presence in this culture would explain why modern Iranians and Kurds possess E-V13, in addition to R1a-Z93 and R1b-Z2103. E-V13 has been found as far away as central Siberia, near the Altai, a region also known to have been settled by Bronze Age Indo-Europeans.”


It’s only confusing to people because people still want E-V13 to be a Neolithic farmer haplo which it wasn’t and a bunch of confusion and illogical bullshit based on a retarded premise proven wrong already is what’s causing all this confusion. E-V13 did not come from the Levant or Anatolia period.

There’s no E-v13 found in Neolithic Europe, as of yet anyway

[Leto]

I think he added Tajik cause his Uzbek side was genetically more like an Uzbekified Tajik rather than a normal Uzbek. His dad was even West Asian shifted by Tajik standards IIRC.
Have you seen the Uzbek samples I uploaded? I think you wanted to see them
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?236025-Uzbek-GEDmatch-results&p=6393933&viewfull=1#post6393933
No specified regions. They are from the Estonian bio center.

[Mingle]

Have you seen the Uzbek samples I uploaded? I think you wanted to see them
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?236025-Uzbek-GEDmatch-results&p=6393933&viewfull=1#post6393933
No specified regions. They are from the Estonian bio center.

I haven't seen them, thanks for sharing. They're all from Uzbekistan, right?

By the way, I updated the HarappaWorld sheet on Vahaduo if you want to test it out with Uzbeks or some others.

[TheMaestro]

It's pretty widespreaded around whole Europe so it's not a surprise

[Leto]

I haven't seen them, thanks for sharing. They're all from Uzbekistan, right?

By the way, I updated the HarappaWorld sheet on Vahaduo if you want to test it out with Uzbeks or some others.
Yes, from Uz as far as I'm concerned. One is around 50% mongoloid and one or two are barely 30%. Most are between 30 and 40% though.

[Daos777]

There’s no E-v13 found in Neolithic Europe, as of yet anyway

“E-V13 from Avellaner cave, Spain. Belonged to the Cardium Pottery Culture, dated to have lived ~7,000ybp”

I mean besides this one right? But this one is associated with Cardium pottery culture and not EEF. Also doesn’t explain where and when E-V13 entered Europe.


Off topic though

There is an Ossetian branch of E-V13 kinda proving that whole Sintashta dispersal of it throughout the Iranic world/Central Asia.

[Dorian]

Norka? He's quarter Tatar, allegedly Crimean (autosomally more like Volga Tatar though) but yes, he's E-V13 for some reason.

https://books.google.co.kr/books?id=-vLcCQAAQBAJ&pg=PT24&lpg=PT24&dq=azoc+greeks&source=bl&ots=wj4jasBss4&sig=0qT0BJHqVASJY7h5li30t61yfew&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjE_fe1nrrcAhXFE4gKHcrtDtU4ChDoATABegQIA RAB#v=onepage&q=azoc%20greeks&f=false

[Daos777]

That dickhead (now that he's banned I can mention him) is a hopeless mongrel, he's not an "Uzbeki", he changed his alleged background multiple times (Tajik - Iranian - Tatar - Uzbek). God only knows what his mother mixed with.

I mean I’m pretty sure he is Tajik-like even if his dad is from Uzbekistan. Uzbekis look way more East Asian. He just looks like a Tajik to me with minimal mongoloid if any.

[Dick]

Some famous E-v13 from Vasojevic clan


https://kwtri4b8r0ep8ho61118ipob-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Milosevic-Trump-2.jpg

https://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Milla-Jovovich-green-eyes.jpg

[Leto]

The Donald is E-V13? He's paternally Western German.

[Dick]

The Donald is E-V13? He's paternally Western German.

No Slobodan. Chose a wrong picture

[Daos777]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191221/65b2615a7c2165d58fd4013a7e1a2266.jpg

Only E-V13 that matters

[Glauk]

How do you comment on this? E-V13 branch without Albanians?

https://www.yfull.com/tree/E-BY34282/

Your opinion ?

You’re quite obsessed with ev13 and albanians, aren’t you milos?

[Daos777]

You’re quite obsessed with ev13 and albanians, aren’t you milos?

It’s because he is Albanian


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[Coastal Elite]

Dear diary, today, American Decebal told me I'm an alien.

lol...Irish mixed Decebal.

https://i.imgur.com/5leSdFe.jpg

[Mortimer]

branislav.dinic

Your Confirmed Haplogroup is E-PH1246
Search
Haplogroup E (M-35+) is a North African lineage. It is commonly found throughout all North African countries and is, therefore, closely linked to people of Arab cultures. It is also found at a low frequencies in the Middle East.



Dobro Jutro. Ja sam Svetozar Plemic. Moje Poreklo sa Oceve strane je srpsko. Moj otac je rodjen u vojvodini. Radoslav Plemic ali mi je kazo da je njegov deda Ilija Plemic poreklom iz Bosne. Neznam tacno odakle. I da se naselijo u Vojvodini. Ja sam testiro Y DNA i ja sam E haplogrupa. Prvo sam testiro E SNP pack. A sad sam testiro Y DNA 37 bilo je jeftiniji za prasnike. Zamolijo bi vas da pogledate moje resultate i ako mozete neke daljne Informacije da mi uporucite. Siguran sam da sam omogucijo administratori da vide moje resultate. Ako nisam molim vas objaznite kako da podelim sa vama. Imam Y STR 37 marker i E V 13 SNP Pack. Nasa Slava je Sveti Nikola.



Svako Dobro Svetozar Plemic

[Dick]

branislav.dinic

Your Confirmed Haplogroup is E-PH1246
Search
Haplogroup E (M-35+) is a North African lineage. It is commonly found throughout all North African countries and is, therefore, closely linked to people of Arab cultures. It is also found at a low frequencies in the Middle East.



Dobro Jutro. Ja sam Svetozar Plemic. Moje Poreklo sa Oceve strane je srpsko. Moj otac je rodjen u vojvodini. Radoslav Plemic ali mi je kazo da je njegov deda Ilija Plemic poreklom iz Bosne. Neznam tacno odakle. I da se naselijo u Vojvodini. Ja sam testiro Y DNA i ja sam E haplogrupa. Prvo sam testiro E SNP pack. A sad sam testiro Y DNA 37 bilo je jeftiniji za prasnike. Zamolijo bi vas da pogledate moje resultate i ako mozete neke daljne Informacije da mi uporucite. Siguran sam da sam omogucijo administratori da vide moje resultate. Ako nisam molim vas objaznite kako da podelim sa vama. Imam Y STR 37 marker i E V 13 SNP Pack. Nasa Slava je Sveti Nikola.



Svako Dobro Svetozar Plemic

Evo okle su junacko pleme Plemici


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale,_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina

[Coastal Elite]

Is there a correlation between E-V13 and the ability to dunk a basketball? I feel like I have that North African influence in my calves.

[MagnusDark]

Some famous E-v13 from Vasojevic clan


https://kwtri4b8r0ep8ho61118ipob-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Milosevic-Trump-2.jpg

https://healthyceleb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Milla-Jovovich-green-eyes.jpg

Idk if it’s through mother or father but Trump has descent from Scottish clans that were R1a-Z284. I think clan Donald if I’m not mistaken. Maybe it was his mother then. Was he confirmed E-V13?

[Dick]

Idk if it’s through mother or father but Trump has descent from Scottish clans that were R1a-Z284. I think clan Donald if I’m not mistaken. Maybe it was his mother then. Was he confirmed E-V13?

Not to my knowledge

[Token]

E-V13 in Western Europe is Gothic. Just felt like adding that to this thread.

[Daos777]

E-V13 in Western Europe is Gothic. Just felt like adding that to this thread.

Not in every case.

[MagnusDark]

Not in every case.

In most cases it is though. Its obvious by the fact that most West Euro E-V13 clades only share a common ancestor with Balkan ones back to the Bronze Age.

[Bakha]

Lol at LETO guy who saves users pics and keeps it in the separate folder, trying to insult me while i am
banned.
Ok. Chill out i don’t give a fuck about your opinion.