Low upper eyelid crease height is superior to high upper eyelid crease height

[Ymyyakhtakh]

https://i.imgur.com/ftW1ai5.jpg

Plastic surgery which decreases upper eyelid crease height makes the eyes look less tired or lazy, because it decreases upper eyelid exposure:

https://i.imgur.com/8EmKIzj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rYFihJ3.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/96eJNH9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HRN2sFM.jpg

On the other hand, double eyelid surgery makes the eyes look more tired or lazy, because it increases the height of the upper eyelid crease, or because it makes the upper eyelid crease more prominent:

https://i.imgur.com/buRVp1h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G5W38Th.jpg

In the two images below, even though the visible area of the upper eyelid is still fairly large after the surgery, the reduction in upper eyelid exposure clearly makes the eyes look better:

https://i.imgur.com/jIjuVB9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/yrSAvtd.jpg

Sources of the photos above:

https://www.tabanmd.com/eyelid-retraction/
https://www.tabanmd.com/almond-eye-surgery/
https://www.tabanmd.com/asian-blepharoplasty-eyelid-crease/
https://r7z9r7i7.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Combined-decompression-and-retraction-manuscript-TabanMD.pdf
http://www.lasersurgeryhatyai.com/content_detail.php?content_id=66

Below are morphs of players in the Swedish top-level men's (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/allsvenskan-herrar/77486/) and women's (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/obos-damallsvenskan/77346/) soccer leagues grouped by upper eyelid exposure (UEE). I did not attempt to account for differences in the angle of the photos, so the morphs with higher UEE consist of photos that were taken on average at a lower angle. I also did not attempt to account for differences in facial expression, so the morphs with higher UEE also have a longer distance between the eyebrows and the eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/pTnFFoa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kNolUhD.gif
https://i.imgur.com/IGIoxCQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/nYQtPf2.jpg

Below are more morphs. You can see that people with higher upper eyelid exposure also tend to have more prominent lower eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/NBWY59q.gif

Out of a total of 197 players in the Japanese women's top-level volleyball league (https://www.vleague.jp/women/team/v1) (who were not missing a photo and who I estimated to be ethnic Japanese), I thought that the player on the left below looked the best, and the player on the right below looked the worst. The player on the left looks like she has no eyelids, but the player on the right has very prominent eyelids by Japanese standards. The player on the right does not have inner epicanthic folds, and she has high upper eyelid crease height by Japanese standards.

https://i.imgur.com/2yVGCAi.jpg

Similarly out of 148 players in the Swedish top-level women's soccer league (who were not missing a photo and who I estimated to be ethnic Swedes), I thought that the player on the left below looked the best, and the player on the right below looked the worst. The player on the left has very low upper eyelid crease height, so that she has virtually zero upper eyelid exposure. The player on the right has high upper eyelid crease height, so that she has high upper eyelid exposure. The player on the right also has higher palpebral fissure height, higher orbits, and more prominent lower eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/aSWHzxf.jpg

[Voskos]

You make all this fuss for 8% siberian admix? Imagine what happens when it increases to 25%.

[Laag]

Another high-quality thread from you.:thumb001:

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here's more examples of Swedish soccer players who have a very low upper eyelid crease and very low upper eyelid exposure (by white standards). They have eyes that look somehow clear or alert:

https://i.imgur.com/kpbhApz.jpg


You make all this fuss for 8% siberian admix? Imagine what happens when it increases to 25%.

I had turned wannabe-Mongoloid years before I learned that Finns have Mongoloid admixture (circa 2006 vs circa 2014).

The looksmaxing people have discovered the same things as me independently, like that low UEE (upper eyelid exposure) looks better than high UEE, and that positive canthal tilt (PCT) looks better than negative canthal tilt (NCT): https://lookstheory.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/what-makes-a-persons-eyes-attractive/. (However I don't agree with the author of that post that low upper eyelid exposure looks less attractive in women than in men. I also don't agree that neutral canthal tilt looks better than positive canthal tilt in men.)

[Laag]

I think low upper eyelid crease or a complete lack of it (so-called hooded eyes) is archaic trait this is more characteristic of pure unmixed nations which preserved ancient archaic features.
Mari girls

https://i.imgur.com/ni2ghLU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zxApEKn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LDSg7UE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7iRR3kS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xvucG2j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MZn3tub.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L7lvk8k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AkXmsIM.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I think low upper eyelid crease or a complete lack of it (so-called hooded eyes) is archaic trait this is more characteristic of pure unmixed nations which preserved ancient archaic features.
Mari girls

https://i.imgur.com/ni2ghLU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/zxApEKn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LDSg7UE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7iRR3kS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xvucG2j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/MZn3tub.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L7lvk8k.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AkXmsIM.jpg


There are even Maris with a high upper eyelid crease, but as expected, they look hideous:

https://i.imgur.com/M7P4W05.jpg

Compare to Mari men with no visible upper eyelid crease:

https://i.imgur.com/asZ5DXx.jpg

The opposite of hunter eyes are farmer eyes, which have become the most common in the regions of the world that have been agricultural the longest, such as around the Fertile Crescent. Characteristics of farmer eyes include high upper eyelid exposure, low canthal tilt, high orbits, round orbits, high palpebral fissure height, prominent lines of the eyelids, and dark skin of the eyelids. In Europe, farmer eyes are the least common among the populations whose ancestors have been agricultural for the shortest period of time.

In the photo of Maris below, the boy who is the third from the right in the back row looks the worst, and he also has the highest upper eyelid exposure. Out of all the boys in the photo, he has the most poorly developed facial skeleton. He even has the semi-floppy ears of a domesticated human (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/449a/f17f2bfa6670e669a312b2f18b145497940e.pdf). In general, he looks like he belongs to a higher-EEF population than Maris whose ancestors have been agricultural for more millennia than the ancestors of Maris. The boy who is the third from the right in the front row is at the opposite end of the spectrum. His eyes look clear or bright, because he looks like he has no eyelids, because the skin of his eyelids is not dark, and because he has low palpebral fissure height. His facial skeleton has both high lateral growth and high forward growth.

https://i.imgur.com/q4uuRxe.jpg

Out of the men in this photo of Moksha, the one with a red dot over his head looks the worst. He has the highest upper eyelid exposure, and he has a poorly developed facial skeleton with collapsed maxilla. On the other hand, the man with a green dot over his head looks the best. His eyes look very narrow, and he does not appear to have a visible upper eyelid crease.

https://i.imgur.com/UlrabGI.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/105061

In this photo of Mordvins, the girl on the right looks worse. Even though she has the single positive Mongoloid characteristic of low palpebral fissure height, it is outset by the three negative Caucasoid characteristics of upper eyelid exposure, leptomorphic face shape, and leptomorphic nose shape.

http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/v47vU4SA9zJDbw-_DYOsSSP9e-8SpQEebpon4b7_uomNQbJ0pQ0fff35BR-KyIrb.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/76808

[Laag]

High upper eyelid crease looks like degeneration trait.

[Bakha]

I love your threads mate. You just telling the truth to these ugly looking westerners and meds.
If those typical western/med traits werent ugly people wouldn’t do such difficult surgeries and spend lots of cash on it lol

[Bakha]

Dat right swede have that typical western/iberian horse face look
https://i.imgur.com/aSWHzxf.jpg

[chociprasa]

I think that thick eyelids ("upper eyelid exposure") can look cute on females, depending on the circumstances.

[chociprasa]

High upper eyelid crease looks like degeneration trait.

Agreed, though. It indicates stunted bone development.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

https://i.ibb.co/QrLTnjw/upper-eyelid-exposure-vs-superior-chinky-eyes.jpg


I think that thick eyelids ("upper eyelid exposure") can look cute on females, depending on the circumstances.

Actually if the soft tissue of the eyelids (skin and fat pads) is thick, like in East Asians, the eyelids are less prominent, and the skin of the eyelids is less likely to be wrinkled or creased. When the skin of the eyelids is thin, the skin is also more translucent, so it appears darker.


Agreed, though. It indicates stunted bone development.

Yeah, in the lookism community, people are saying that the upper eyelids become exposed because the supraorbital rims are underdeveloped: https://lookism.net/showthread.php?tid=330822. In people who have a strong browridge, the upper eyelids are often covered by the frontal bone. On the other hand, when the orbits are high, the distance from the eyeball to the supraorbital rim is also higher, and the area of the upper eyelids becomes more expanded.

[chociprasa]

More propaganda:

https://i.ibb.co/QrLTnjw/upper-eyelid-exposure-vs-superior-chinky-eyes.jpg



Actually if the soft tissue of the eyelids (skin and fat pads) is thick, like in East Asians, the eyelids are less prominent, and the skin of the eyelids is less likely to be wrinkled or creased. When the skin of the eyelids is thin, the skin is also more translucent, so it appears darker.



Yeah, in the lookism community, people are saying that the upper eyelids become exposed because the supraorbital rims are underdeveloped: https://lookism.net/showthread.php?tid=330822. In people who have a strong browridge, the upper eyelids are often covered by the frontal bone. On the other hand, when the orbits are high, the distance from the eyeball to the supraorbital rim is also higher, and the area of the upper eyelids becomes more expanded.

You're right. Have you seen that meme pic comparing "prey eyes" and "hunter eyes"? No to minimal upper eyelid exposure makes you look like a hunting animal, like a tiger or a wolf.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

You're right. Have you seen that meme pic comparing "prey eyes" and "hunter eyes"? No to minimal upper eyelid exposure makes you look like a hunting animal, like a tiger or a wolf.

Unfortunately yes, but I wish my mind would be less contaminated so that it would not contain entries for concepts like "hunter eyes".

It's also a product of differences in canthal tilt (i.e. palpebral fissure inclination) and in palpebral fissure height (i.e. aperture height).

https://i.imgur.com/hqfJ4UC.png

Out of European populations, hunter eyes are more common among the populations that score more hunter in Eurogenes Hunter_Gatherer vs. Farmer.

[Rico33]

More propaganda:

https://i.ibb.co/QrLTnjw/upper-eyelid-exposure-vs-superior-chinky-eyes.jpg



Actually if the soft tissue of the eyelids (skin and fat pads) is thick, like in East Asians, the eyelids are less prominent, and the skin of the eyelids is less likely to be wrinkled or creased. When the skin of the eyelids is thin, the skin is also more translucent, so it appears darker.



Yeah, in the lookism community, people are saying that the upper eyelids become exposed because the supraorbital rims are underdeveloped: https://lookism.net/showthread.php?tid=330822. In people who have a strong browridge, the upper eyelids are often covered by the frontal bone. On the other hand, when the orbits are high, the distance from the eyeball to the supraorbital rim is also higher, and the area of the upper eyelids becomes more expanded.

They don't look THAT chinky.

[Laag]

Karelian model Yana Spirkova. In some cases, you can see low upper eyelid crease in others she has superior hooded eyes with epicanthus.

https://sun9-12.userapi.com/c851136/v851136599/9c116/GgdpndxQEuw.jpg
https://sun9-69.userapi.com/c857736/v857736185/b862a/SxUTBUWPXg4.jpg
https://sun9-40.userapi.com/c850620/v850620979/1838dc/6LAxkUTiR6A.jpg
https://sun9-43.userapi.com/c856120/v856120668/163515/hdyIpO90UqQ.jpg
https://sun9-69.userapi.com/c850416/v850416668/14ac8f/p8ObiyT6bzo.jpg
https://sun9-41.userapi.com/c857636/v857636392/18058/vfLqfFK7qOc.jpg
https://sun9-68.userapi.com/c846524/v846524402/a618c/MOfW_a07gk4.jpg
https://sun9-18.userapi.com/c824700/v824700379/159042/O9TQYe4aSa0.jpg
https://sun9-46.userapi.com/c837225/v837225104/754e9/Za08Vw6CmZc.jpg


When will Eugenics will rise again in Europe all white people which have visible upper eyelid will be spared from this defect.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

There were a total of 192 players in the German top-level women's soccer league (https://www.dfb.de/flyeralarm-frauen-bundesliga/spieltagtabelle/) whose nationality was listed as German, who were not missing a photo, and who I estimated to be an ethnic German.

Below are morphs of the 12 players who I estimated to have the lowest and the highest upper eyelid crease height. I again estimated upper eyelid crease height based on a single photo, and I did not attempt to account for differences in facial expression or in the angle of the photo.

https://i.imgur.com/dGOhukq.jpg

As before, the morph with lower upper eyelid crease height ended up having a wider and more robust face.

The players with low upper eyelid crease height look more Scandinavian or Finnic, but the players with high upper eyelid crease height look more Southern European.


Karelian model Yana Spirkova. In some cases, you can see low upper eyelid crease in others she has superior hooded eyes with epicanthus.

https://sun9-12.userapi.com/c851136/v851136599/9c116/GgdpndxQEuw.jpg
https://sun9-69.userapi.com/c857736/v857736185/b862a/SxUTBUWPXg4.jpg
https://sun9-40.userapi.com/c850620/v850620979/1838dc/6LAxkUTiR6A.jpg
https://sun9-43.userapi.com/c856120/v856120668/163515/hdyIpO90UqQ.jpg
https://sun9-69.userapi.com/c850416/v850416668/14ac8f/p8ObiyT6bzo.jpg
https://sun9-41.userapi.com/c857636/v857636392/18058/vfLqfFK7qOc.jpg
https://sun9-68.userapi.com/c846524/v846524402/a618c/MOfW_a07gk4.jpg
https://sun9-18.userapi.com/c824700/v824700379/159042/O9TQYe4aSa0.jpg
https://sun9-46.userapi.com/c837225/v837225104/754e9/Za08Vw6CmZc.jpg


The first two photos are taken at a low angle, which makes the upper eyelid crease appear to be higher.

She looks so perfect anyway.


When will Eugenics will rise again in Europe all white people which have visible upper eyelid will be spared from this defect.

Yeah lol, that's one of the measurements we'll be performing to see who is racially pure enough to be assimilated into the Ugric Khanate.

https://static.luolasto.org/file/mahti-bucket/15934/ugric-khanate.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here are similar morphs of players in the 2019 women's hockey world championship (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2019/ww/teams). I excluded non-whites, most of whom were Japanese.

https://i.imgur.com/jIHrkUU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7h5Bzif.jpg

Out of all 230 players in the tournament, the player in the bottom right corner of the image above had the highest upper eyelid crease in their headshot photo. I think that she was also one of the worst-looking players in the entire tournament.

On the other hand, I thought that the Czech player below was the best-looking player out of all 230 players in the tournament, but she also looks like she has no upper eyelids:

https://uvmathletics.com/images/2018/9/17/Kolowrat_Sammy.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

The morphs below consist of photos of Finnish players in the Finnish top-level men's hockey league: https://liiga.fi/fi/pelaajat/2019-2020/. I estimated the upper eyelid exposure of each player based on a cropped photo of their left eye. I did not account for the effect of the camera angle or facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/o5krGFB.jpg

In the gif file below, compared to the morph of players with a very small visible area of the upper eyelids, the morph of players with a very large visible area of the upper eyelids has a narrower face, lower cheekbones, a longer and narrower nose, a shorter distance between the nose and the mouth, and thinner lips. The area of the shadows of its nasolabial folds is also larger.

https://i.imgur.com/cUvfrN3.gif

Here's an image of the left eye of each player whose photo I used in the morphs:

https://i.imgur.com/Mnu9Nj2.jpg

Here are again the players who I estimated to have the smallest and the largest visible area of the upper eyelids:

https://i.imgur.com/MJaYvOk.jpg

In the image above, you can see that there are two super-woggy looking players who also have high upper eyelid exposure (Niklas Friman and Frans Tuohimaa). As far as I can tell, both of them are ethnic Finns however.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

In this photo of Finnish skiers, the women on the left and right who have high upper eyelid exposure (UEE) look worse than the two women in the middle who have low UEE.

https://i.imgur.com/wShWi3e.jpg

In this photo of Russians, both the girl on the right and the child held by her have high upper eyelid exposure, so they have dull-looking eyes.

http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/8EOZMqY2fJOZxROeF1vYiWI1zbdzwklSG39k_KdLv5xS3CJUYi 29dZziptI87PlU.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/88639

Out of these three Russian women, the one in the middle who has the highest UEE and the darkest eyelids doesn't even look Russian.

https://i.imgur.com/czhlZh0.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/108260

Out of these Moksha girls, the one in the middle who has the highest UEE has the dullest-looking eyes. She also has other characteristics that are associated with higher-EEF populations, like the narrowest face, the longest and narrowest nose, the longest chin, and the lowest cheekbones.

https://i.imgur.com/K5Ss6Ox.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/104931

Out of these Komi boys, the one on the left who has the highest UEE looks the most retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/ZIolCM9.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/330297

In this photo of Bashkirs, the man on the right (who has Mongoloid-like eyes with low UEE) has eyes that look lively, but the boy on the left (who has MENA-like eyes with high UEE) has eyes that look dull.

https://i.imgur.com/pOE7wNf.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/74256

In this photo of Russians, the girl on the right who has high UEE looks zombified, but the woman on the left who has low UEE has clear-looking eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/dOcq7k7.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/74436

Out of the three men whose face is fully visible in this photo, the one on the left (who has low UEE and non-prominent eyelids) has clear-looking eyes, but the other two (who have high UEE and prominent eyelids) have MENA-like dead eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/rQJj477.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/258298

In this photo of Aleuts, the girl who is the second from the right who has the highest UEE looks retarded.

https://i.imgur.com/VQ1hzsU.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/287690

[Laag]

Russian theater director Konstantin Bogomolov. Looks MENA/churka/degenerate.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D7vn6kXXYAUIu0o.jpg:large
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/priutkomedianta/40988188/27011/original.jpg
Russian actor of Mari descent Oleg Taktarov. Badass looking.
https://avatars.mds.yandex.net/get-zen_doc/1811900/pub_5d96df7c43fdc000b032544a_5d96df9e2f1e4400ae8ea 552/scale_1200
https://cdnimg.rg.ru/i/gallery/b85f8ef6/4_3ad0f733.jpg

[Nurzat]

would lookists approve? (in Christmas t-shirt xD)

https://scontent.ftce2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/80543599_143268247112974_3335061832128790528_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=k5bttaWA9K0AQk8eWQ-d5n0lnSXxyyczRJbTWxnFnhNdD98ErkRkZMxew&_nc_ht=scontent.ftce2-1.fna&oh=b00dc2708eb3ccd82d5018ddb86069ae&oe=5EA685C5

[TheOldNorth]

Something I might do if I had a lot of money lying around, but I don’t and I’m not one to change my body on a whim

[Ymyyakhtakh]

This post contains photos from the website of the Smithsonian Institution: https://collections.si.edu.

In this photo of Shilluk, the boy with a red dot over his head has high UEE and MENA-like dull-looking eyes. The boy with a green dot over his head has more clear-looking eyes, because he does not have prominent eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/RUYWUg6.jpg

In this photo of Bororo, all three people have MENA-like dull eyes because they have prominent eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/b0RDIuP.jpg

In this photo of Ashanti, the girl in the middle who has the least prominent eyelids has the brightest-looking eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/ePlZtNA.jpg

In this photo of Sotho, both girls have dull-looking eyes, because they have prominent upper eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/FR5gElB.jpg

In this photo of Sotho, the boy on the right who has lower palpebral fissure height and less prominent eyelids has better-looking eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/abkjdbg.jpg

These Hausa boys both have clear-looking eyes, because they have low palpebral fissure height and a supratarsal crease.

https://i.imgur.com/3Nz1Poe.jpg

On the other hand, these Hausa girls all have MENA-like dead eyes. All also have a narrow face.

https://i.imgur.com/2DjdIIt.jpg

In this photo of Yoruba, the girls on the left and right both have MENA-like ugly eyes because they have prominent eyelids. Both also have a convex nose. Within all races, people with some MENA-like characteristics also tend to have other MENA-like characteristics.

https://i.imgur.com/l2Ok1xL.jpg

In this photo of Kuba, the boy with a red dot over his head has scary-looking eyes with prominent eyelids and high UEE. The boy with a green dot over his head is at the opposite end of the spectrum.

https://i.imgur.com/Hz6temI.jpg

In this photo of Algerians, both the man and the girl have a typical degenerated MENA look with high UEE.

https://i.imgur.com/gPIsXtv.jpg

In this photo of Ainu, the man in the middle who has the highest UEE and the lowest canthal tilt looks the worst.

https://i.imgur.com/DdswSLy.jpg

In this photo, the two girls with a green dot over their head who don't have prominent eyelids have clear-looking eyes, but the three girls with a red dot over their head have dull-looking eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/zJqJU5r.jpg

In this photo of Eskimo, the girl in the front who has the highest UEE has the dullest-looking eyes.

https://i.imgur.com/Rdm5VVX.jpg

In this photo of Hawaiians, all girls look ugly because they have prominent eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/KzrE8Gq.jpg

In this photo, the Native American with a green dot over his head has much better-looking eyes than the white with a red dot over his head. They are located also at the opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of how well-developed their facial skeleton is.

https://i.imgur.com/IQJXs03.jpg

This photo follows the usual pattern, where the person with higher UEE looks clearly worse, and where they also have a less well-developed facial skeleton.

https://i.imgur.com/Qtp9CbG.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here are more photos of Native Americans from the website of the Smithsonian Institution, where I think the persons with higher upper eyelid exposure (or more prominent eyelids in general) look worse:

https://i.imgur.com/NvzW3o6.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/dilJvZt.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/27nRHGC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/syjWHlE.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/RNrbVD9.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/uVxqa2p.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/7fWaQb4.jpg

[IrisSelene]

but according to many barely visible or non visible upper eyelid on females looks ugly and masculine so

[L3mon J3lly]

but according to many barely visible or non visible upper eyelid on females looks ugly and masculine so

If by "many" you mean effeminate East Asian, central Asian and Finnic "males", yes.


In the real world, however, East Asian, central Asian, Latina women, ugric females, etc, are considered the most effeminate creatures on this planet, and their respective "males" the most incel and castigated hermaphrodites. A lower eyelid crease is actually correlated with hugher estrogen levels and female beauty:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/bin/rspb20053296f01.jpg


Composite faces of the (a) 10 women with highest and (b) 10 with lowest levels of late follicular oestrogen metabolite (oestrone-3-glucuronide, E1G).


^ The low-estrogen unattractive composite on the right is the Western European archetype, the high estrogen woman has the finno-ugric cuck face.

[IrisSelene]

If by "many" you mean effeminate East Asian, central Asian and Finnic "males", yes.


In the real world, however, East Asian, central Asian, Latina women, ugric females, etc, are considered the most effeminate creatures on this planet, and their respective "males" the most incel and castigated hermaphrodites. A lower eyelid crease is actually correlated with hugher estrogen levels and female beauty:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/bin/rspb20053296f01.jpg




^ The low-estrogen unattractive composite on the right is the Western European archetype, the high estrogen woman has the finno-ugric cuck face.

no, it was on reddit, i uploaded on a page to get rated and they told me i looked uglier bc of my wide low bridge nose and hidden upper eyelid bc they're masculine traits.

[L3mon J3lly]

no, it was on reddit, i uploaded on a page to get rated and they told me i looked uglier bc of my wide low bridge nose and hidden upper eyelid bc they're masculine traits.

Reddit is full of East Asian and miscegenated race cucks constantly coping about being on the losing end of evolutionary biology.

A low wide nose bridge and hidden upper eyelid are both effeminate and neotenic traits that are extremely desirable for females (but incel-tier as a man).

[IrisSelene]

Reddit is full of East Asian and miscegenated race cucks constantly coping about being on the losing end of evolutionary biology.

A low wide nose bridge and hidden upper eyelid are both effeminate and neotenic traits that are extremely desirable for females (but incel-tier as a man).

i mean thats what i always thought too but idk anymore lol

[Ymyyakhtakh]

If by "many" you mean effeminate East Asian, central Asian and Finnic "males", yes.


In the real world, however, East Asian, central Asian, Latina women, ugric females, etc, are considered the most effeminate creatures on this planet, and their respective "males" the most incel and castigated hermaphrodites. A lower eyelid crease is actually correlated with hugher estrogen levels and female beauty:


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1560017/bin/rspb20053296f01.jpg




^ The low-estrogen unattractive composite on the right is the Western European archetype, the high estrogen woman has the finno-ugric cuck face.

Aren't you just saying that the "Western European archetype" consists of females with an abnormally low estrogen level (lowest 10 out of 59) who were rated as uglier? Features that are ugly in females (like dark areas around the eyes and an elongated horse face) are also ugly in males. Based on this paper, higher estrogen is associated with higher fWHR in females, in the same way that higher T is associated with higher fWHR in males.

The low-estrogen morph also has other anti-Finnic features that are more characteristic of non-outlier Europeans:

- lower canthal tilt;
- higher level of dark areas around the eyes;
- more prominent lines of the lower eyelid;
- narrower root, bridge, and ala of the nose;
- thinner lips and narrower mouth;
- longer and narrower face;
- lower cheekbones;
- longer and narrower chin;
- longer forehead.

https://i.ibb.co/4s3kxNf/composite-faces-of-women-with-lowest-and-highest-fetal-estrogen.gif

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here are morphs of players in the 2019 women's hockey world cup (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2019/ww/teams) grouped by visible area of upper eyelids. I excluded players who I estimated to be non-white. I did not attempt to account for differences in camera angle or facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/IMsOza3.jpg

In the gif file below, compared to the morph with a very large visible area of upper eyelids, the morph with a very small visible area of upper eyelids has a wider face, a wider and shorter nose, a lower level of dark areas around the eyes, less prominent lines of the lower eyelids, and more reddish skin. It also appears to have larger teeth with wider dental arches.

As before, the morphs with a larger visible area of the upper eyelids also have a longer distance between the eyebrows and the eyes. It is probably partially caused by differences in facial expression and in the angle of the camera. However it is probably also the result of actual differences in facial structure, because for example the morphs with a larger visible area of the upper eyelids clearly have a root of the nose that is positioned further up on the y-axis.

https://i.imgur.com/DLJYshI.gif

Here are cropped versions of the images that I used in the morphs:

https://i.imgur.com/SuDhjuo.jpg

I additionally divided the players into two groups based on whether I estimated them to have below average (n=102) or above average (n=103) upper eyelid exposure. In the images below, I think that in the case of each country, the morph with below average UEE looks better than the morph with above average UEE. The morphs with below average UEE generally also have a wider face and more prominent cheekbones. Therefore for example in the case of Sweden, the morph with below average UEE looks more Finnish, and in the case of Finland, the morph with above average UEE looks more Swedish.

https://i.imgur.com/RtdoR8m.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GCqRaLX.gif

Below are also similar morphs of players in the 2019 men's hockey world championship (https://www.iihf.com/en/events/2019/wm/teams). In the case of many countries, the morph with above average UEE appears to have a more upturned nose, but I think it's because the photos in the morph were taken at a lower angle.

https://i.imgur.com/TUrLPzk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UYC6tI0.gif


would lookists approve? (in Christmas t-shirt xD)

https://scontent.ftce2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/80543599_143268247112974_3335061832128790528_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=104&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=k5bttaWA9K0AQk8eWQ-d5n0lnSXxyyczRJbTWxnFnhNdD98ErkRkZMxew&_nc_ht=scontent.ftce2-1.fna&oh=b00dc2708eb3ccd82d5018ddb86069ae&oe=5EA685C5

Yes, hooded eyes master race. Out of the morphs above, you look the most like maybe the Czech, Latvian, or Russian morph with below average UEE.

[Chris596]

As long as someone can live a healthy life, they shouldn't change their body. Everyone has different eyelids, different skin, etc for different reasons. Maybe those people who had their eyelids surgically modified, were not only dissatisfied with themselves. Of course, this is just my opinion. You can also check out my eyes in my latest post (and the only one so far), I'm happy with myself :)

[IrisSelene]

these topics are so interesting....


idk if mine is medium, small or very small, I'm guessing that just small bc it is visible a bit, only rlly not visible at some certain angles lol

[IrisSelene]

As long as someone can live a healthy life, they shouldn't change their body. Everyone has different eyelids, different skin, etc for different reasons. Maybe those people who had their eyelids surgically modified, were not only dissatisfied with themselves. Of course, this is just my opinion. You can check also check out my eyes in my latest post (and the only one so far), I'm happy with myself :)

Of course everyone should be happy with what theyve got, and i think eyes in general are just beautiful and interesting

[Skjaldemjøden]

I find low eyelid creases in women unattractive. It's also at odds with any classic European standard of beauty, but to each their own.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

these topics are so interesting....


idk if mine is medium, small or very small, I'm guessing that just small bc it is visible a bit, only rlly not visible at some certain angles lol

Based on the photos you posted yesterday, I would classify your upper eyelid exposure as maybe "low", even though in the one photo taken at a high angle, you have almost no visible pretarsal skin.

In different posts in this thread, I have used different criteria for what I have classified as "very low", "low", or "medium" UEE. And those are just terms I made up.

I think I would classify my own UEE as "very low". At a direct angle, only a tiny part of the outer side of my upper eyelids are visible. I don't even have an Asian shape of the eyes, and my eyes are not that narrow, but I just have a low browridge, so my upper eyelids are covered by my brow. Kinda like this Icelandic soccer player:

https://i.imgur.com/PlycywD.jpg

Also the term "upper eyelid exposure" (and the acronym UEE) were probably made up by the lookism virgins. There are currently 3,850 hits on Google search for the search phrase "upper eyelid exposure", most of which are on websites related to the lookism community.

A similar term used by plastic surgeons is "pretarsal show":

https://i.imgur.com/SCdrJUS.jpg

The skin between the upper eyelid crease and the upper eyelid margin is called "pretarsal skin". "Upper eyelid crease height" is also called "pretarsal skin height".

https://i.imgur.com/pYaE4JN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/T21M3YT.jpg

[IrisSelene]

Based on the photos you posted yesterday, I would classify your upper eyelid exposure as maybe "low", even though in the one photo taken at a high angle, you have almost no visible pretarsal skin.

In different posts in this thread, I have used different criteria for what I have classified as "very low", "low", or "medium" UEE. And those are just terms I made up.

I think I would classify my own UEE as "very low". At a direct angle, only a tiny part of the outer side of my upper eyelids are visible. I don't even have an Asian shape of the eyes, and my eyes are not that narrow, but I just have a low browridge, so my upper eyelids are covered by my brow. Kinda like this Icelandic soccer player:

https://i.imgur.com/PlycywD.jpg

Also the term "upper eyelid exposure" (and the acronym UEE) were probably made up by the lookism virgins. There are currently 3,850 hits on Google search for the search phrase "upper eyelid exposure", most of which are on websites related to the lookism community.

A similar term used by plastic surgeons is "pretarsal show":

https://i.imgur.com/SCdrJUS.jpg

The skin between the upper eyelid crease and the upper eyelid margin is called "pretarsal skin". "Upper eyelid crease height" is also called "pretarsal skin height".

https://i.imgur.com/pYaE4JN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/T21M3YT.jpg

oh no, ignore the pics i posted last time on here, i had used eyelid tape to give the impression i had more visible eyelids haha, theyre not the best example


this would be more accurate

on the right side of the photo im wearing the eyelid tape, my natural eyelid is the one on the left side of the pic

https://i.imgur.com/RapqExn.jpg

[IrisSelene]

I find low eyelid creases in women unattractive. It's also at odds with any classic European standard of beauty, but to each their own.

yea thats what ive been told lol

[Ymyyakhtakh]

The images below are cropped from old portraits of African Americans from the website of the Smithsonian Institution: http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=henry+clay+anderson.

I made a list of the URLs of the photos by running a shell command like this:

for u in "http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=henry+clay+anderson&start="{0..4932..20};do curl -Ls "$u"|pup '.record img attr{src}'|xml unesc|sed s/max=170/max=1000/;done

I believe these images demonstrate two opposites of the phenotypic spectrum, which also exist among whites. One opposite is Uralid-like, which is associated with low upper eyelid exposure, high canthal tilt, high fWHR, prominent cheekbones, a wide and short nose that is concave or upturned, high forward growth, and a large and robust facial skeleton. The other opposite is MENA-like, which is associated with the inverse characteristics.

https://i.imgur.com/xp8TL4Y.jpg

Similar images of males:

https://i.imgur.com/416tgMv.jpg

This gif file compares the black equivalent of a Uralid-like type with the black equivalent of a MENA-like type:

https://i.imgur.com/0iL8Doy.gif

African girls with low upper eyelid exposure and a Uralid-like type (Dan (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref27252), Tofinnu (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref28436), and Kuba (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref28512)):

https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EENG-VIII-51_03Ahttps://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EENG-VIII-37_32https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EENG-VI-18_17Ahttps://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=damsmdm:NMAfA-EEPA_2013-009-0670


African girls with high upper eyelid exposure and a MENA-like type (Bororo (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref17772), Mangbetu (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref19365), Yoruba (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-1973-001-ref28445), and Dogon (http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=NMAfA-EEPA_2013-009-0670)):

https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EENG-II-5_35https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EEPA_EECL_03031-000001https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=NMAfA-EEPA_EECL_02548-000001

Man from Mali (http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-eepa-2013-009-ref4507) with the black equivalent of Uralic eyes:

https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=600&id=damsmdm:NMAfA-EEPA_2013-009-2354

[Celine]

My mom has this huuuuuuge area in the eyes... I personally find it ugly.

[Samnium]

I think I have between medium and low eyelid. Not as low to be like the examples but much less higher than the medium examples.

[Kyp]

My area of visible eyelids is very small luckily for me as I have very hooded eyes. My father has almost no visible eyelids at all.

[Samnium]

My area of visible eyelids is very small luckily for me as I have very hooded eyes. My father has almost no visible eyelids at all.

Your eyes aren't rather deep set ? But it's true that having saw your picture your eyelids aren't visible.

[Kyp]

Your eyes aren't rather deep set ? But it's true that having saw your picture your eyelids aren't visible.

Deep set + hooded I would say

[Samnium]

Deep set + hooded I would say

I think I've partially hooded as well rethinking about it. (not full though)

I've rarely seen deep set eyes without some kind of hooded though. It's a common "combo".

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I think I've partially hooded as well rethinking about it. (not full though)

I've rarely seen deep set eyes without some kind of hooded though. It's a common "combo".

Yeah and people who have protruding eyes also tend to have more prominent eyelids. Similarly people who have more deep-set eyes tend to have more close-set eyes, and people who have more protruding eyes tend to have more wide-set eyes.

I think both protruding eyes and wide-set eyes are part of the domestication syndrome phenotype. I have not yet found a single photo of a wild boar which would have derp eyes like this:

https://www.helsinki.fi/sites/default/files/styles/12_7_medium/public/thumbnails/image/12002050_861189473949321_640504111673522742_n-2.jpg?itok=84aNuieshttps://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_80/w_1600,h_900,c_fill,g_faces/w_400/13-3-5553067.jpg

Compare to wild boars:

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/frantic/korkeasaari-fi/2017/03/170308_korpiseikkailu_villisika_500x500px.jpghttps ://kuvat.kaakonviestinta.fi/img/855/41e431d590b56a83e2cf25f5cea37e43

Uglier people have more protruding eyes, and they have a higher distance between the eyes (at least relative to their facial width, even though not necessarily in absolute terms).

https://i.imgur.com/t5dOl88.jpg

Modern humans have more protruding eyes than ancestral humans (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/228974732_Post-Pleistocene_diachronic_change_in_East_Asian_facial _skeletons_The_size_shape_and_volume_of_the_orbits ):


In China there is a reduction in facial breadth, height and prognathism, posterior tooth size, brain volume and cranial robusticity from the Neolithic to the modern period. However, the height of the orbits increases rather than decreases. Examination of the structural relationships between orbit and facial dimensions in Tohoku Japanese and Australian Aboriginal crania suggests a steady reduction in orbit volume in China. This may have resulted in a more anterior placement of the eyeball and associated structures in modern East Asians than in their Neolithic counterparts.

[...]

Where crania have a shorter cranial base, in association with a less projecting lower face and reduced upper facial breadth, orbit volumes are reduced. This would decrease the volume available for the recti muscles, and orbital nerves and blood vessels, pushing the eyeball into a more anterior or relatively protruding position. A situation analogous to this in the degree of protrusion of the eye, and extent of facial flatness, occurs in domestic breeds of dog. While there is only limited comparative evidence to support this view in humans, Adachi (1904a) suggested that this was the situation in modern Japanese when compared with other modern human populations with more projecting facial skeletons (Adachi, 1904a, b). This is in marked contrast with fossil hominids like Arago 21 (right orbit volume 44 ml, measured from a cast) and Kabwe (right orbit volume 46 ml) whose supraorbital development, facial projection and orbit volumes exceed the modern human range of variation (modern human adult orbit volume range is 18–38 ml).

[Samnium]

Yeah and people who have protruding eyes also tend to have more prominent eyelids. Similarly people who have more deep-set eyes tend to have more close-set eyes, and people who have more protruding eyes tend to have more wide-set eyes.

I think both protruding eyes and wide-set eyes are part of the domestication syndrome phenotype. I have not yet found a single photo of a wild boar which would have derp eyes like this:

https://www.helsinki.fi/sites/default/files/styles/12_7_medium/public/thumbnails/image/12002050_861189473949321_640504111673522742_n-2.jpg?itok=84aNuieshttps://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/f_auto,fl_progressive/q_80/w_1600,h_900,c_fill,g_faces/w_400/13-3-5553067.jpg

Compare to wild boars:

http://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/frantic/korkeasaari-fi/2017/03/170308_korpiseikkailu_villisika_500x500px.jpghttps ://kuvat.kaakonviestinta.fi/img/855/41e431d590b56a83e2cf25f5cea37e43

Uglier people have more protruding eyes, and they have a higher distance between the eyes (at least relative to their facial width, even though not necessarily in absolute terms).

https://i.imgur.com/t5dOl88.jpg

Yeah I totally agree, protuding eyes give that "tired" vibe that isn't really pleasant, if combined with negative canthal tilt and a shape that isn't that good you can end up with very "ugly" eyes by the way.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

The photos below are of Samburu girls (or possibly girls from some other Nilotic peoples): http://alamy.com/search.html?qt=samburu+woman. The girls with MENA-like eyes also tend to have other progressive features, like a narrower face or nose, a higher bridge of the nose, lower forward growth, thinner lips, or smaller teeth.

Mongoloid-like eyes (small visible area of upper eyelids, non-prominent lines of eyelids, high canthal tilt, low palpebral fissure height, or low level of dark areas around the eyes):

https://i.imgur.com/85BE4A2.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/r1Pzxig.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/alvkRjD.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/3ZMU1G0.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/zf4r4si.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/y5lAS30.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/KHQZe4y.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/danqZ9F.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Y8rTxL7.jpg

MENA-like eyes (large visible area of upper eyelids, prominent lines of eyelids, low canthal tilt, high palpebral fissure height, or high level of dark areas around the eyes):

https://i.imgur.com/W7vY5un.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/5mIH7EK.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/zziLetZ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/H0RDAfn.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jOR5WRL.jpg

In the GIF file below, the "Best-looking" morph has very low UEE, and it even appears to have epicanthus palpebralis. The "Worst-looking" morph not only has higher UEE, but it also has more prominent lines of the lower eyelids, lower canthal tilt, and more protruding eyes, and its eyebrows and supraorbital rims are also less slanted inwards. It also has a narrower face, a narrower nose, and a higher bridge of the nose.

https://i.imgur.com/MWwhcsw.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here's examples of Himba who are situated at the opposite ends of the eyelid spectrum. All photos are from Alamy: https://www.alamy.com/search.html?qt=himba+woman.

https://i.imgur.com/kQqALCg.jpg

In the GIF file below, compared to the "16 best" morph, the "16 worst" morph not only has higher visible pretarsal skin area of the upper eyelids, but it also has lower canthal tilt and higher orbits. Its supraorbital rims are more slanted outwards, which is typical of Caucasoid orbit shape. It also has more protruding eyes, so that even the z-axis distance from the infratarsal crease to the lower eyelid margin appears to be longer.

https://i.imgur.com/Bn5FJSw.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here's more examples of Africans who are at opposite ends of the eyelid spectrum. (I'm not 100% sure that each person is listed under the correct ethnic group.)

https://i.imgur.com/1wOWVe2.jpg

I think some of the best-looking African peoples are the darkest-skinned Nilotic pastoralists, like Nuer and Nyangatom. I found virtually no people among them with ugly MENA-like eyes:

https://www.alamy.com/search.html?qt=nuer+woman
https://www.alamy.com/search.html?qt=nyangatom+woman

Maasai are another Nilotic pastoral people, but they have more Caucasoid admixture than Nuer (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Northeast_African_genomic_variation_ADMIXTURE _plot.PNG), so there are even people who look like this among them:

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/ABW2EE/maasai-girl-unmarried-girls-with-their-beaded-necklaces-and-colourful-ABW2EE.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

The website balticcasting.com (https://www.balticcasting.com/en/database) returned 75 persons whose nationality was listed as Estonian, whose sex was listed as female, and whose age was listed as between 18 and 30. I downloaded all of their default photos, but I excluded 24 persons whose default photo was not a standard headshot photo taken against a blue background.

I made morphs of the remaining 51 photos, where each morph consists of 17 photos.

https://i.imgur.com/i5Yd24a.jpg

In the GIF file below, compared to the morphs with higher UEE, the morphs with lower UEE have more reddish skin, bigger cheekbones, lower palpebral fissure height, and a wider nose.

https://i.imgur.com/RgZRp04.gif

Below are cropped versions of the images I used in the morphs. I don't know if it's just by chance, but the number of persons who smiled in their photo so that their teeth were visible (not counting when only a tiny part of the teeth are visible) was 10/17 for lowest UEE, 3/17 for intermediate UEE, and 2/17 for highest UEE.

https://i.imgur.com/NdvP6tz.jpg

I also went through the photos of 801 models whose nationality was listed as Latvian. I classified 68 models as having very low UEE, and out of them 76% smiled so that their teeth were visible, but I classified 46 models as having very high UEE, and out of them only 50% smiled so that their teeth were visible. Maybe I have found a real effect.

Another reliable predictor of overall attractiveness is how straight the lower eyelid margin is. People who have more protruding eyes tend to have a more curved lower eyelid margin, because their eyeball is pushed against the lower eyelid. On the other hand, people who have deep-set eyes tend to have a more straight lower eyelid margin. For example these models from the balticcasting.com website have a very straight lower eyelid margin:

https://i.imgur.com/IzwtTFW.jpg

[Aileron]

wondering my type too

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I searched Alamy for the phrase "bodi tribe woman": https://www.alamy.com/search.html?qt=bodi%20tribe%20woman. Bodi is just some random Nilotic people.

I selected photos which matched criteria such as the following:

- the photo was accepted by my morpher;
- the photo featured a single female who I estimated to be between 15 and 30 years old (however I also included a few instances of a female with a child);
- the person in the photo was facing the camera at a fairly direct angle;
- the person in the photo was not making an unusual facial expression;
- I estimated that the person in the photo was not included in another photo which I had selected (even though there might still be a few duplicates).

I then divided the photos into 2 equal-sized groups based on how chinky the eyes of the person in the photo looked, which I determined mostly based on upper eyelid exposure, the prominence of the eyelids, palpebral fissure inclination, and palpebral fissure height.

https://i.imgur.com/iK741Mv.jpg

In the image above, the persons with less chinky eyes look more Ethiopid or Bantuid on average. I think Nilotids have better eye shape than Ethiopids or Bantuids because they are more fit genetically, similar to the reason why Siberians have better eye shape than whites, and why whites have better eye shape than MENAs. Similarly among whites, better-looking people have more Siberian-like eye shape and worse-looking people have more MENA-like eye shape.

In the GIF file below, compared to the morph with more chinky eyes, the morph with less chinky eyes clearly has more protruding eyeballs. Its supraorbital rims are higher and less straight, and it has a longer distance between the eyebrows and the eyes. Its face is also narrower, its nose is longer, and its chin is narrower.

https://i.imgur.com/xgUVVmu.gif

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Coon used the term "median eyefold" to describe hooded eyes, and he considered it to be the product of low orbits. He said that it was common in Volhynians, Mordvins, and Maris:

> Among the English, Welsh, and Scotch internal and median eyefolds are very uncommon, while external folds are not infrequent.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-X3.htm

> In the morphology of the face, the Volhynians are for the most part typical Neo-Danubians. Median eyefolds, indicative of a low orbit and a heavy fatty deposit in the upper lid, are found among 38 per cent; the nose is concave in 25 per cent of the group, and snubbed in 20 per cent. A heavy deposit of fat on the malars is common, especially among the women; in this type it seems to assume the nature of a secondary sex character. Round faces and plump cheeks are typical.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII9a.htm

> However, there seems to be a moderately high incidence of concavity of the nasal profile, 18 per cent among Mordvins and 39 per cent among Cheremisses; of a median eyefold, which is a sign, as a rule, of a low bony orbit - 34 per cent among Mordvins and 46 per cent among Cheremisses; and 64 per cent of weak beard growth among Mordvins, and 77 per cent among Cheremisses.
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IX9.htm

Volhynian Baltids by Biasutti (the first one has very low upper eyelid exposure):

https://i.imgur.com/0Ay6Mzw.jpg
https://archive.org/details/lerazzeeipopolid02bias

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I made these morphs out of portraits that were part of the Origins of Beauty ethnographic project (https://www.facebook.com/444900195589145/media_set/?set=a.444947508917747):

https://i.imgur.com/T4qn3lh.gif

Each morph consists of 4 photos. I didn't determine how prominent the upper eyelids were only based on upper eyelid exposure, but also based on for example how prominent the lines of the lower eyelids were and how dark the skin of the eyelids was.

In the case of each pair of morphs apart from the Caucasian morphs, the morph with less prominent eyelids clearly has a larger and a more robust facial skeleton than the morph with more prominent eyelids. In the case of blacks and Mongoloids, the morph with less prominent eyelids clearly has higher palpebral fissure inclination than the morph with more prominent eyelids.

Tar file of original images from Facebook: https://anonymousfiles.io/2O5CTZcn/. Mirrors: https://gofile.io/d/4EKnyf, https://www.mediafire.com/file/a0e0d5l0bda0b73/origins-of-beauty-ethnographic-project.tar/file.

[Komintasavalta]

Even among Khoisan, people who look more unhealthy or deformed tend to have more Caucasoid-like eye shape, with higher visible area of the upper eyelids, lower canthal tilt, supraorbital rims that are more slanted outwards, more prominent eyelids, or a higher level of dark areas around the eyes:

https://i.imgur.com/HJ1pVQQ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/kzjiJmC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/VZH4p38.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/eL1APA0.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/1AJHCj4.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/7KtkyMd.jpg

The man in the last photo above is not otherwise that bad, but he has high upper eyelid exposure by Khoisan standards, which makes his eyes look lazy or tired. His skin is also dry and unevenly colored, and he has dark areas around the eyes.

The people who look the healthiest tend to have more Mongoloid-like eye shape, because I believe it was the original human eye shape:

https://i.imgur.com/Yuouhlx.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/bNZR7sk.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/XmtAVwD.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/vjDNSIx.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xckcA2h.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xh4NpCT.jpg

[Komintasavalta]

I searched Alamy for "omo valley young man portrait":
https://www.alamy.com/search.html?qt=omo%20valley%20young%20man%20portra it. Alamy has a large collection of photos of different ethnic groups from the Omo Valley.

I then selected photos which matched criteria such as the following:

- the photo contained a single male person who I estimated to be between 15 and 30 years old;
- the person in the photo was facing the camera at a fairly direct angle;
- the person in the photo had a fairly neutral facial expression;
- the person in the photo did not smile so that a large part of the teeth were visible;
- the eyes of the person in the photo were not closed or facing away from the camera;
- the person in the photo did not appear to have very high Caucasoid admixture (like some Ethiopians);
- the photo was not cropped so that only a part of the head was visible;
- the face of the person in the photo was not covered by a hand or by another object;
- the person in the photo was not wearing heavy face paint;
- the photo was not rejected by the Python package I use to create morphs (https://pypi.org/project/facemorpher/);
- the photo was not aligned incorrectly by my morpher;
- I estimated that the person in the photo was not included in another photo I had selected.

I then divided the photos in three groups based on upper eyelid exposure:

https://i.imgur.com/IXQ5mis.jpg

The "Low UEE" morph has the lowest and the most staight supraorbital rims. The "High UEE" has the highest and most curved supraorbital rims. Out of the three morphs, the "Low UEE" morph has the widest nose and the least elliptical face shape.

Here are the photos I used in the morphs:

https://i.imgur.com/Pb5vkl5.jpg

[Komintasavalta]

Coon wrote that a median upper eyelid fold was common among Maris, Mordvins, and Kabyle, but rare or lacking among peoples of the British Isles:

- "22 per cent of Russians have a median eyefold, which is found among 34 per cent of Mordvins, and 46 per cent of Cheremisses". (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII9b.htm)
- "The Kabyles lack, for the most part, either internal or external eye-folds, but one-fifth of the sample shows median folds, which indicate a low orbit, and may be a reminder of the old Afalou race. The eyebrows are typically and almost exclusively medium in thickness, lacking in concurrency, and relatively great in lateral extension. Thus the bushiness and concurrency of the eyebrows common among Asiatic Mediterranean varieties hardly exist here." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI13.htm)
- Irish: "median and internal eyefolds are apparently rare or lacking". (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-X2.htm)
- "Among the English, Welsh, and Scotch internal and median eyefolds are very uncommon, while external folds are not infrequent." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-X3.htm)
- "The morphology of the external eye is also subject to regional distribution. High orbits, with no folds, are characteristic of Dinarics, and of most Near Eastern peoples; orbits of moderate height, and with a tendency to external folding in maturity and old age, go with long-headed peoples of both blond and brunet varieties, while a median fold, indicative of both a low orbit and a thick fat deposit in the eye region, goes rather with the Finnic and Slavic blond mesocephals and brachycephals. The true internal or mongoloid fold is not common in Europe and is found in numbers only in the east, in the Kalmuck and Tatar districts of Russia, and in the far north." (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-VIII5.htm)

Kabyle are a North Algerian group of Berbers. There were only a few photos which were classified as being of Kabyle on the website of Kunstkamera: http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT?ethnos=3509215. The photos featured the faces of a total of 8 persons whose eyelids were visible. 5 out 8 of the persons appear to have completely nearly completely hooded eyes. Particularly the girl in the top left corner has very low supraorbital rims for a female. The woman in the bottom right corner has the highest UEE, and she also has the highest supraorbital rims.

https://i.imgur.com/gyOaOu1.jpg

[travv]

- "22 per cent of Russians have a median eyefold, which is found among 34 per cent of Mordvins, and 46 per cent of Cheremisses" (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XII9b.htm).



Coon used old data from Bunak. Zolotareva having examined 305 Mari men found that only 6,9% of them don't have a median eyefold.

46% is very low figure. No way Mari so woggy.

[Komintasavalta]

Coon used old data from Bunak. Zolotareva having examined 305 Mari men found that only 6,9% of them don't have a median eyefold.

46% is very low figure. No way Mari so woggy.

Actually you're probably right. Still, even 46% is an extremely high figure by European standards.

There were 301 photos that were classified as being of Maris on the website of the Peter the Great Museum of Anthropology and Ethnography of the Russian Academy of Sciences (http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT?ethnos=3507871, http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT?ethnos=3507873).

I downloaded all the photos, and I cropped out images of faces where I was able to determine how large the visible area of the upper eyelids was. I excluded some low-quality photos, and I excluded photos where the eyes of the person in the photo were not visible or closed. I attempted to exclude duplicate photos of the same person, but I probably missed a few. I didn't exclude any person because I estimated them to not be Mari, so some of the persons in the photos might not actually be Mari.

I estimated that in a total of 184 out of 222 of the photos (about 83%), the person in the photo had completely or nearly completely hooded eyes. The figure was much higher than I expected. The figure would probably be lower among modern Mari.

In the case of a few photos that were taken at a low angle, I counted the person in the photo as having hooded eyes even though the pretarsal skin of the upper eyelids was clearly visible, because I estimated that the eyes would appear to be completely or nearly completely hooded in a photo that was taken at a straight angle.

https://i.imgur.com/7J1pHMp.jpg

Even among the people who I classified as having hooded eyes, many still have the kind of sad or dull-looking eyes that most Caucasoids have. It's often because they have low palpebral fissure inclination or high palpebral fissure height.

https://i.imgur.com/befIpzD.jpg

On the other hand, the boy below has eyes that look sharp or clear even compared to the other persons with completely hooded eyes. He has eyes where the even the lines of the lower eyelids are barely visible, where the palpebral fissure height is very low, and where the lower eyelid margins are very straight.

https://i.imgur.com/FqSRsGo.jpg

I think these people look particularly Uralish:

https://i.imgur.com/KBgT5j2.jpg

However this girl looks anti-Uralish, because she has visible upper eyelids, an elliptical elongated face shape, a long and narrow nose, and low cheekbones:

https://i.imgur.com/WrPVxr3.jpg

[dududud]

Eurasian eyes. Not very "european".

Lazy eyes = super european

Next.

[Immanenz]

Eurasian eyes. Not very "european".

Lazy eyes = super european

Next.

its not exclusive to Euros though but many Euros dont have lazy eyes which is a good thing.

[Seya]

i don't know what's superior about them..no time to read..but definitely a lot uglier compared to visible upper lid (one everyone) + down turned eyes (on men especially)

[IrisSelene]

I think it depends on the person, some look good with more eyelid showing, some look better with less.

I for a fact, know, that if I got surgery to make my eyelids more visible I would look ugly asf and crazy. Thanks to me experimenting with the eyelid tape lol.

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[Immanenz]

i don't know what's superior about them..no time to read..but definitely a lot uglier compared to visible upper lid (one everyone) + down turned eyes (on men especially)

much more important are other facial features- especially in men- bone structure is key- eye shape is very secondary.

[Harkonnen]

Imagine having these shaped eyes

https://i.imgur.com/stSxXG7.jpg

[Seya]

much more important are other facial features- especially in men- bone structure is key- eye shape is very secondary.

true but the eyes are still in the top 3 most important features on anyone's face and i find downtuned/sleepy eyes to be very pretty

[Komintasavalta]

In this photo of Mari, I think the boy with a green dot over his head has the best eye shape, and the boy with a red dot over his head has worst eye shape:

https://i.imgur.com/Qel4uL4.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/129096

In this photo of Mari, I think the boy and girl with a green dot over their head have the best eye shape, because they have narrow eyes that are slanted inwards and that don't have prominent eyelids. Most of the other children have eyes that look more sad, because they have lower canthal tilt, their palpebral fissure height is higher, or their eyelids are more prominent. Note how compared to the other girls, the girl with a green dot over her head also has a bigger facial skeleton and thicker lips.

https://i.imgur.com/yBSmoQv.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/129167

[travv]

http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/129096


Page not found. Can you fix link?

[IrisSelene]

Fuck I'm finally superior at something lol


Tho sometimes (2nd pic) they can look like that too. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/246339828851d87bc73bd3a9e72bebec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/48d206e4505857053a0a41530f66a05a.jpg

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[Celto-Germanic]

Personally I like larger higher, wide eyed eyes the most. They're simply more expressive (I don't have them, it's just what I find aesthetically appealing)

[SamuelPomper]

Personally I like larger higher, wide eyed eyes the most. They're simply more expressive (I don't have them, it's just what I find aesthetically appealing)

I dislike the eye types who makes me to not trust them. That's why I don't like mongoloid types, they seem sneaky especially with those eyes and vile.

[IrisSelene]

I dislike the eye types who makes me to not trust them. That's why I don't like mongoloid types, they seem sneaky especially with those eyes and vile.I read that the eyes that come across as untrustworthy the most are actually big blue eyes, mainly the really light icy blue ones lol.

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[2garin]

I read that the eyes that come across as untrustworthy the most are actually big blue eyes, mainly the really light icy blue ones lol
Like those eyes?
https://i.imgur.com/4hmmGDm.jpg

[Komintasavalta]

Tho sometimes (2nd pic) they can look like that too. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/246339828851d87bc73bd3a9e72bebec.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201110/48d206e4505857053a0a41530f66a05a.jpg

Yeah because pretarsal show appears higher in photos taken at a lower angle. Your photos are also a good example of how at a low camera angle, the supraorbital rims appear to be higher and more curved.


Personally I like larger higher, wide eyed eyes the most. They're simply more expressive (I don't have them, it's just what I find aesthetically appealing)

May you find a bug-eyed wife who suits your preferences.

I think pretarsal show and canthal tilt are both better predictors of attractiveness than palpebral fissure height. Medium palpebral fissure height does not necessarily look bad, even though I think low palpebral fissure height is still on average better than medium palpebral fissure height. A lot of people have low palpebral fissure height but medium or high pretarsal show. And how large the height of the the eyes appears does not depend on palpebral fissure height alone, but also on the height of the eyelids.

There were a total of 148 players in the Swedish women's top-level soccer league (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/obos-damallsvenskan-2020/82420/) who were not missing a photo and who I estimated to be an ethnic Swede. I tried dividing the players into 4 equal-sized groups based on their pretarsal show, palpebral fissure height, palpebral fissure inclination, and total eye height including eyelids. I estimated each characteristic from a single cropped out photo of the eye area. I attempted to account for the effect of camera angle to some extent, but I still did not give it enough weight, so I ended up selecting persons whose photo was taken at a lower angle as having higher pretarsal show and lower canthal tilt.

When I classified the photos based on palpebral fissure height, I found that what makes the eyes look large or small is not necessarily palpebral fissure height alone, but the combination of upper eyelid height, palpebral fissure height, and lower eyelid height. Therefore I devised a new metric: eye height including eyelids. It is similar to the distance from the upper eyelid crease to the upper eyelid margin to the lower eyelid margin to the lower eyelid crease. However my metric is a weighted average which gives the most weight to palpebral fissure height, intermediate weight to the height of the upper eyelid crease, and the least weight to the height of the lower eyelid crease. The position of the lower eyelid crease is sometimes difficult to measure, some people don't even have a clear crease of the lower eyelids, and some people can appear have a long distance from the lower eyelid margin to the lower eyelid crease but it doesn't make their eyes appear much bigger.

When I classified the photos, I didn't attempt to take the effect of the facial expression into account, so that for example my morphs of people with the lowest palpebral fissure height includes photos of persons whose eyes were narrowed because they were smiling. Compared to palpebral fissure height, total eye height including the height of the eyelids is less affected by differences in facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/y7uzHgl.jpg

In the GIF file below, I think the morph labeled "Top 8 lowest palpebral fissure height" looks worse than the morph labeled "Top 8 lowest eye height including eyelids". It even has higher orbits and a higher y-axis position of the glabella. Some of the persons whose photos I used in the morph were smiling so that they squinted their eyes, but their palpebral fissure height would've been higher if they had a neutral facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/kQjzW71.gif

Here are the players who I estimated to have the lowest and the highest eye height including eyelids:

https://i.imgur.com/acekHx3.jpg

I consider the terms canthal tilt and palpebral fissure inclination to be mostly synonymous. However in people with downward-pointing medial canthi, the angle between the medial and lateral canthus can be much higher than the angle between the innermost and outermost point of the palpebral fissure, even though how slanted the eyes appear mostly depends on palpebral fissure inclination. In the past, I have used the term canthal tilt when I have actually meant palpebral fissure inclination.

I consider the terms "pretarsal show", "upper eyelid exposure", "visible area of pretarsal skin", and "upper eyelid crease height" to be more or less synonymous. The term "upper eyelid exposure" is used in the lookism community, and the term "pretarsal show" is used by plastic surgeons. The term "upper eyelid exposure" is more incorrect in the sense that anatomically even the area of skin that is above the upper eyelid crease is considered to be part of the upper eyelids, but the term "upper eyelid exposure" usually refers to the visible area of the eyelids below the upper eyelid crease.


Like those eyes?
https://i.imgur.com/4hmmGDm.jpg

Hitler has sad-looking eyes because he has low canthal tilt and his supraorbital rims are slanted outwards. However his pretarsal show is not nearly as high as it appears in the photo you posted, because the photo is taken at a low angle.

[IrisSelene]

Yeah because pretarsal show appears higher in photos taken at a lower angle. Your photos are also a good example of how at a low camera angle, the supraorbital rims appear to be higher and more curved.



May you find a bug-eyed wife who suits your preferences.

I think pretarsal show and canthal tilt are both better predictors of attractiveness than palpebral fissure height. Medium palpebral fissure height does not necessarily look bad, even though I think low palpebral fissure height is still on average better than medium palpebral fissure height. A lot of people have low palpebral fissure height but medium or high pretarsal show. And how large the height of the the eyes appears does not depend on palpebral fissure height alone, but also on the height of the eyelids.

There were a total of 148 players in the Swedish women's top-level soccer league (https://www.svenskfotboll.se/serier-cuper/spelarstatistik/obos-damallsvenskan-2020/82420/) who were not missing a photo and who I estimated to be an ethnic Swede. I tried dividing the players into 4 equal-sized groups based on their pretarsal show, palpebral fissure height, palpebral fissure inclination, and total eye height including eyelids. I estimated each characteristic from a single cropped out photo of the eye area. I attempted to account for the effect of camera angle to some extent, but I still did not give it enough weight, so I ended up selecting persons whose photo was taken at a lower angle as having higher pretarsal show and lower canthal tilt.

When I classified the photos based on palpebral fissure height, I found that what makes the eyes look large or small is not necessarily palpebral fissure height alone, but the combination of upper eyelid height, palpebral fissure height, and lower eyelid height. Therefore I devised a new metric: eye height including eyelids. It is similar to the distance from the upper eyelid crease to the upper eyelid margin to the lower eyelid margin to the lower eyelid crease. However my metric is a weighted average which gives the most weight to palpebral fissure height, intermediate weight to the height of the upper eyelid crease, and the least weight to the height of the lower eyelid crease. The position of the lower eyelid crease is sometimes difficult to measure, some people don't even have a clear crease of the lower eyelids, and some people can appear have a long distance from the lower eyelid margin to the lower eyelid crease but it doesn't make their eyes appear much bigger.

When I classified the photos, I didn't attempt to take the effect of the facial expression into account, so that for example my morphs of people with the lowest palpebral fissure height includes photos of persons whose eyes were narrowed because they were smiling. Compared to palpebral fissure height, total eye height including the height of the eyelids is less affected by differences in facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/y7uzHgl.jpg

In the GIF file below, I think the morph labeled "Top 8 lowest palpebral fissure height" looks worse than the morph labeled "Top 8 lowest eye height including eyelids". It even has higher orbits and a higher y-axis position of the glabella. Some of the persons whose photos I used in the morph were smiling so that they squinted their eyes, but their palpebral fissure height would've been higher if they had a neutral facial expression.

https://i.imgur.com/kQjzW71.gif

Here are the players who I estimated to have the lowest and the highest eye height including eyelids:

https://i.imgur.com/acekHx3.jpg

I consider the terms canthal tilt and palpebral fissure inclination to be mostly synonymous. However in people with downward-pointing medial canthi, the angle between the medial and lateral canthus can be much higher than the angle between the innermost and outermost point of the palpebral fissure, even though how slanted the eyes appear mostly depends on palpebral fissure inclination. In the past, I have used the term canthal tilt when I have actually meant palpebral fissure inclination.

I consider the terms "pretarsal show", "upper eyelid exposure", "visible area of pretarsal skin", and "upper eyelid crease height" to be more or less synonymous. The term "upper eyelid exposure" is used in the lookism community, and the term "pretarsal show" is used by plastic surgeons. The term "upper eyelid exposure" is more incorrect in the sense that anatomically even the area of skin that is above the upper eyelid crease is considered to be part of the upper eyelids, but the term "upper eyelid exposure" usually refers to the visible area of the eyelids below the upper eyelid crease.



Hitler has sad-looking eyes because he has low canthal tilt and his supraorbital rims are slanted outwards. However his pretarsal show is not nearly as high as it appears in the photo you posted, because the photo is taken at a low angle.If you had to add my eyes to these studies you do lol where would they fit?

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[Komintasavalta]

If you had to add my eyes to these studies you do lol where would they fit?

I have used different criteria at different times. But they're what I would have considered "completely or nearly completely hooded" in my post about Maris on the previous page.

On page 4 of this thread when I classified white players in the 2019 women's hockey world cup, I used a 5-option scale with a bell-shaped distribution, so that the middle option was the most common and the first and fifth options were the least common. I classified a total of about 4% (9 out of 205) of the players as having a "very small visible area of upper eyelids". You would fit into that category.

https://i.imgur.com/IMsOza3.jpg

[travv]

I have used different criteria at different times. But they're what I would have considered "completely or nearly completely hooded" in my post about Maris on the previous page.

On page 4 of this thread when I classified white players in the 2019 women's hockey world cup, I used a 5-option scale with a bell-shaped distribution, so that the middle option was the most common and the first and fifth options were the least common. I classified a total of about 4% (9 out of 205) of the players as having a "very small visible area of upper eyelids". You would fit into that category.

https://i.imgur.com/IMsOza3.jpg

Morph with very small visible area look the most Uralisch and vice versa morph with very large visible area the most woggy.


https://i.imgur.com/3rfgW35.png

[Ülev]

trying to make my eyes Uralische

https://i.postimg.cc/s2vkLtb5/uralischeeyes.jpg

[Viridian1]

trying to make my eyes Uralische



Hitler's eyes :o

[Ülev]

Hitler's eyes :o

I always said I am noble

[Moje ime]

Hitler's eyes :o

Slavic eyes ;)

[Ülev]

shoo


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?47930-Classify-Adolf-Hitler

[Viridian1]

shoo


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?47930-Classify-Adolf-Hitler

Dayyym. Now looking at his pics Ive realized I have similar jaws, chin and lips to him.

[Komintasavalta]

The photos in this post are of Izhma Komi, or at least they were classified as being of Izhma Komi on the website of Kunstkamera (http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT?ethnos=3507847).

Out of these three girls, the one on the right has eyes that look more fierce, like the eyes of a predator. The other two girls have eyes that look more sad or tired, because they have lower canthal tilt and higher UEE. The girl on the right also has the biggest facial skeleton.

https://i.imgur.com/Fsy5zTX.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/130390

Here the girl on the left has eyes that look more tired or sad, because she has lower canthal tilt and more prominent eyelids. She also has other more Caucasoid-like features, like a more elliptical and gracile face shape, thinner lips, a lower nasal index, and a shorter distance between the nose and the mouth

https://i.imgur.com/yyGr5iR.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/90564

Here the girl on the right has the highest UEE and the most lazy-looking eyes. She also has lower cheekbones than the girl on the left, and her eyebrows and supraorbital rims seem to be more curved.

https://i.imgur.com/nMcdKKW.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/130452

https://i.imgur.com/KtslUkT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7wAs7Kq.gif

Also the boy on the left has eyes that look the least scary and dead, because for example he has the lowest UEE and the highest canthal tilt.

https://i.imgur.com/2WvHBME.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/130387

Here the boy on the left has the most lazy-looking eyes, because he has the highest UEE. His face is also by far the narrowest and most gracile.

https://i.imgur.com/Ku1LR9h.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/130452

Here the girl on the left has more lazy-looking eyes and higher UEE. She also has other Caucasoid-like traits, like a more narrow and elongated face, and a narrower nasal root.

https://i.imgur.com/332Mj26.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/en/entity/OBJECT/130490

[Komintasavalta]

These are two Hamer men. The one on the left has straight supraorbital rims and low UEE, and the one on the right has curved supraorbital rims and high UEE. The one on the left also has less protruding eyeballs, lower palpebral fissure height, and less prominent lines of the lower eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/w1TYQU6.jpg
https://www.alamy.com/portrait-of-a-hamer-warrior-photographed-near-the-town-of-key-afar-omo-river-valley-ethiopia-image341612107.html
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-portrait-of-hamer-tribe-turmi-omo-valley-ethiopia-117423644.html

In this photo of Larim, the two girls in the middle have the most lively looking eyes, but they also have the lowest UEE and the least prominent lines of the lower eyelids.

https://i.imgur.com/BnDDYX6.jpg
https://www.alamy.com/larim-tribe-women-in-traditional-clothing-boya-mountains-imatong-south-sudan-image348110196.html

These San women look more degenerated and Caucasoid-like. They have more prominent eyelids, a narrower face, lower prognathism, and less prominent cheekbones.

https://i.imgur.com/MFZzZQm.jpg
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-namibia-bushmanland-a-young-san-bushman-woman-at-nhoqma-village-pronounced-26888504.html
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-naro-bushman-san-woman-portrait-central-kalahari-botswana-25875410.html
https://www.alamy.com/a-portrait-of-a-san-bushwoman-image239784115.html
https://www.alamy.com/bushman-woman-tsumkwe-namibia-image68707546.html

These San women look more healthy and more like the ancestral human type. They have less prominent eyelids, a wider face, higher prognathism, and more prominent cheekbones.

https://i.imgur.com/DiYX35a.jpg
https://www.alamy.com/stock-image-botswana-kalahari-bushman-bush-woman-young-woman-165779132.html
https://www.alamy.com/san-tribe-woman-portrait-huila-province-chibia-angola-image217539058.html
https://www.alamy.com/bushman-woman-with-traditional-hairstyle-tsumkwe-namibia-image68700654.html
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-bushmen-bushman-tribe-africa-botswana-kalahari-man-50156901.html

[Komintasavalta]

Domestic pigs have higher upper eyelid exposure than wild boars. They also have shorter medial canthi, so the distance from their palpebral fissure to the medial canthus is lower. Their eyeballs are also more protruding.

https://i.imgur.com/LTSQGto.jpg

Wild boars have more alert-looking eyes like Mongoloids, and domestic pigs have more tired-looking eyes like wogs:

https://i.imgur.com/fnSTrFa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/UQaBjYF.jpg