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Mortimer
12-25-2019, 07:10 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/Bnn8GFyQ/NWEuropean.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/XJCGz0Pf/Ancestral-Originsmtdna.jpg

Crn Volk
12-25-2019, 07:14 AM
Yes you are clearly NW European

Mortimer
12-25-2019, 07:20 AM
Probably German, because it would fit geographically better me being from Serbia geographically. Maybe Volksdeutsch. Folk German.

Marmara
12-25-2019, 07:39 AM
That must be where your fondness to national socialism coming from

Mortimer
12-25-2019, 07:40 AM
That must be where your fondness to national socialism coming from

I dont have a fondness for this. Im here the most leftist member. I think you are more right wing then me but say that.

Marmara
12-25-2019, 07:44 AM
I dont have a fondness for this. Im here the most leftist member. I think you are more right wing then me but say that.

I don't mean as political allignment but fancying, besides, saying white people are superior is not left wing.

Mortimer
12-25-2019, 07:45 AM
I don't mean as political allignment but fancying, besides, saying white people are superior is not left wing.

Ok. But you are a right wing turkish nationalist. Im not nationalist.

Mortimer
12-25-2019, 08:20 AM
Maybe my ancestress was a person like Blondie

Mortimer
12-26-2019, 02:39 AM
Hello Svetozar,

Thank you for contacting FTDNA! I do not see anything that would indicate that your mtDNA matches have Jewish ancestry, although you can always click on their name in your match list to get their email address from their profile and email them to ask. T2b5 is not a specifically Jewish haplogroup but that does not mean that there wouldn't be anyone who has this haplogroup with Jewish ancestry.

On the other hand, if you do an internet search for T2b5 or T2b5 in relation to Jewish ancestry, you can find more information. I always look at the Wikipedia page for a haplogroup, at least as a place to start and maps and find sources in the Wikipedia sources. I haven't looked into this so you will have to do your own homework, so to speak, but this article I found about "Sephardic signature in haplogroup T mitochondrial DNA" might interest you.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306851/#

If someone is matching you on the mtFull Sequence test on all three coding regions (HVR1, HVR2, and the Coding Region) like these three people are that would mean that you and your matches have a common matrilineal ancestor within the last 24 generations or so, or roughly within the last 600 years. It would not be surprising if you had and your matches had an ancestor that far back in one of the German-speaking lands who had some descendants who went to Serbia and some who went to Scotland, maybe depending on whether they emigrated via the Danube or the Rhine. This is speculation but it is plausible. This wouldn't indicate that you have a German grandmother but rather that you and your matches would have had a common great-great-X-grandmother some time within the last 600 years or so.

Mortimer
12-26-2019, 03:14 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/mZVp08Sz/Mysteryofthe-Viking-Warrior.jpg

TheForeigner
12-26-2019, 03:41 AM
Maybe you have some little Gothic and/or Celtic ancestry from your European Balkan side.

Mortimer
12-27-2019, 11:13 PM
Hello Svetozar,

Thank you for contacting FTDNA! Just for fun, here is our Public Haplotree tool set to your terminal SNP for Y-DNA and your mtDNA haplogroup.

If I had to guess, I would say that Danube Swabian or one of the other German groups would be the most likely for your matrilineal ancestor. Keep in mind that your mtDNA haplogroup T2b5 references your mother's mother's mother's mother's etc. line. You and your mtDNA — Matches at the HVR1, HVR2, and Coding Region level have a common matrilineal ancestor within the last 24 generations, or 600 years, give or take.

As far as Roma and Sephardic ancestry go, on your Family Finder — myOrigins you have 17% South Central Asia, which makes sense for Roma ancestry from my understanding, and you have a trace percentage < 2% Sephardic. I would wonder if your 11% Iberian (Spanish/Portuguese) and < 2% Sephardic came from the same ancestors. You could do an internet search about it but there were Sephardic Jews who moved to the Balkans after they were kicked out of Spain.

An autosomal DNA test like our Family Finder can match you with descendants of your ancestors from all branches of your family tree, maternal and paternal, in our database going back about 5 generations and gives you the ethnic/regional percentages (going back about 5 generations for any one individual ancestor but further if a significant portion of your ancestry is from that population)

TheMaestro
12-27-2019, 11:17 PM
True Deutche lad.

TheOldNorth
12-29-2019, 11:55 PM
Why German or Scottish?

Mortimer
12-30-2019, 12:01 AM
Why German or Scottish?

I contacted FtDNA and that was what I was told. Likely danube swabian. Read everything, also the emails I published. If you had read everything you would not ask.

Insuperable
12-30-2019, 12:08 AM
How did you come up with 1/64?

Mortimer
12-30-2019, 12:11 AM
How did you come up with 1/64?

Probably miscalculated. But the small eastern european which is assigned to Hungary could also be part of that same ancestry, because Im sure that danube swabians have roots and genetics in hungary, banat, voivodina and part of romania where they settle for centuries, Im sure they are not 100% northwesteuropean. So that could translate to 3.4%, maybe or not. But the mtdna does seem to be of german origins whether autosomally there is something too and how much Im not sure.

https://i.postimg.cc/fRmjSqCz/AC23andme-Campania.jpg

TheOldNorth
12-30-2019, 01:16 AM
I contacted FtDNA and that was what I was told. Likely danube swabian. Read everything, also the emails I published. If you had read everything you would not ask.

I see but mitochondrial haplogroups aren’t the most reliable way to predict what 0.4% of your autosomal DNA is.

Mortimer
12-30-2019, 01:18 AM
I see but mitochondrial haplogroups aren’t the most reliable way to predict what 0.4% of your autosomal DNA is.

Thats true. Thats why I said this now But the mtdna does seem to be of german origins whether autosomally there is something too and how much Im not sure.

TheOldNorth
12-30-2019, 01:26 AM
Thats true. Thats why I said this now But the mtdna does seem to be of german origins whether autosomally there is something too and how much Im not sure.

guess it could be, but probably not Scottish

Mortimer
12-30-2019, 01:38 AM
guess it could be, but probably not Scottish

Hello Svetozar,

Thank you for contacting FTDNA! Just for fun, here is our Public Haplotree tool set to your terminal SNP for Y-DNA and your mtDNA haplogroup.

If I had to guess, I would say that Danube Swabian or one of the other German groups would be the most likely for your matrilineal ancestor. Keep in mind that your mtDNA haplogroup T2b5 references your mother's mother's mother's mother's etc. line. You and your mtDNA — Matches at the HVR1, HVR2, and Coding Region level have a common matrilineal ancestor within the last 24 generations, or 600 years, give or take.

happycow
12-30-2019, 02:38 AM
cool

Kavkam
12-31-2019, 04:17 AM
Maybe my ancestress was a person like Blondie

Blondie is not German and has nothing to do with them. I've never seen a German with a mentality like that.
She doesn't look German either, she rather looks like some kind of Eurasian; similar to this phenotype:

http://humanphenotypes.net/savolaxidf.jpg

She doesn't belong anywhere outside Hungary. She just has a crush on Germans because Hungary is an undeveloped country so she's a wannabe German. A sad pathetic self-hating life indeed.