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dududud
12-28-2019, 09:03 AM
Close to southern italian or iberians?

West_Med 50,34%
North_Atlantic 29,87%
East_Med 11,47%
West_Asian 8,30%
Baltic 0,01%

West_Med 70,23%
North_Atlantic 22,80%
East_Med 6,97%

West_Med 62,33%
North_Atlantic 29,84%
East_Med 7,74%
Red_Sea 0,09%

West_Med 60,67%
North_Atlantic 34,61%
East_Med 4,71%
Red_Sea 0,01%

West_Med 64,41%
North_Atlantic 28,86%
East_Med 6,73%

West_Med 65,72%
North_Atlantic 25,43%
East_Med 8,85%

West_Med 55,26%
North_Atlantic 28,53%
East_Med 15,61%
Red_Sea 0,61%

dududud
12-28-2019, 09:52 AM
bump

Ibericus
12-28-2019, 10:12 AM
Closer to Sardinians,.

dududud
12-28-2019, 10:27 AM
Closer to Sardinians,.

Not really, they have less East-Med and Red Sea + they shift toward west-med, really.

Do you have a sardinian sample with 10 or 15.00% of East-Med?

Ibericus
12-28-2019, 10:59 AM
Not really, they have less East-Med and Red Sea + they shift toward west-med, really.

Do you have a sardinian sample with 10 or 15.00% of East-Med?
Yes, there are Sardinians with both high WEst-med (this obvious) but also high amount of East-MEd.

Sardinian from Benettuti:

North-Sea 11,52
Atlantic 21,27
West_Med 48,31
East_Med 15,57
Red_Sea 2,26


Sardinian from Sulcis Iglesiente :

North-Sea 12,73
Atlantic 17,53
West_Med 48,17
East_Med 15,68

dududud
12-28-2019, 12:13 PM
Yes, there are Sardinians with both high WEst-med (this obvious) but also high amount of East-MEd.

Sardinian from Benettuti:

North-Sea 11,52
Atlantic 21,27
West_Med 48,31
East_Med 15,57
Red_Sea 2,26


Sardinian from Sulcis Iglesiente :

North-Sea 12,73
Atlantic 17,53
West_Med 48,17
East_Med 15,68

Sulcis Iglesiente is where are from my ancestors.

Do you have other sample? Can you pm me with all of your kit? I search sardinians kits or results (k13 or k15)

15 of east-med seems to me a reasonable score and close to an old nuragh, it could come from the Anatolians farmers and not from the Phoenicians (or little).

I asked you that because the only sardinian kits I could see their east-med was 20, but I saw very few Sardinian results

dududud
12-28-2019, 12:48 PM
Yes, there are Sardinians with both high WEst-med (this obvious) but also high amount of East-MEd.

Sardinian from Benettuti:

North-Sea 11,52
Atlantic 21,27
West_Med 48,31
East_Med 15,57
Red_Sea 2,26


Sardinian from Sulcis Iglesiente :

North-Sea 12,73
Atlantic 17,53
West_Med 48,17
East_Med 15,68

Wesh?

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 12:52 PM
You probably already ran it through the K13 calculator. Anyway here are the results (for the mean of the numbers you gave in the first post):

Distance to: nuraghe
17.19452238 Sardinian
35.45103243 Spanish_Andalucia
36.00734925 French_Basque
36.19453412 Spanish_Aragon
36.36929337 Southwest_French
36.62236885 Spanish_Cantabria
36.66006274 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
37.71254035 Spanish_Valencia
37.73962506 Spanish_Extremadura
38.78733685 Spanish_Murcia
38.88173607 Spanish_Galicia
39.29967175 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
39.62903607 Portuguese
39.63016654 North_Italian
39.96442418 Spanish_Cataluna
42.82257465 Tuscan
43.11472834 Swiss_Italian
45.77908802 Albanian
46.01215818 West_Sicilian
47.68611643 French
47.99106688 Swiss_French
48.04007910 Algerian
48.13134113 Kosovo_Albanian
48.53611748 Italian_Abruzzo
48.78391128 Greek_Peloponnese

Target: nuraghe
Distance: 15.7856% / 15.78564574
82.6 Sardinian
17.4 French_Basque

So according to these results: they're closer to modern sardinians, but not that close. And then to southern iberians rather than to southern italians.

dududud
12-28-2019, 01:02 PM
You probably already ran it through the K13 calculator. Anyway here are the results (for the mean of the numbers you gave in the first post):

Distance to: nuraghe
17.19452238 Sardinian
35.45103243 Spanish_Andalucia
36.00734925 French_Basque
36.19453412 Spanish_Aragon
36.36929337 Southwest_French
36.62236885 Spanish_Cantabria
36.66006274 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
37.71254035 Spanish_Valencia
37.73962506 Spanish_Extremadura
38.78733685 Spanish_Murcia
38.88173607 Spanish_Galicia
39.29967175 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
39.62903607 Portuguese
39.63016654 North_Italian
39.96442418 Spanish_Cataluna
42.82257465 Tuscan
43.11472834 Swiss_Italian
45.77908802 Albanian
46.01215818 West_Sicilian
47.68611643 French
47.99106688 Swiss_French
48.04007910 Algerian
48.13134113 Kosovo_Albanian
48.53611748 Italian_Abruzzo
48.78391128 Greek_Peloponnese

Target: nuraghe
Distance: 15.7856% / 15.78564574
82.6 Sardinian
17.4 French_Basque

So according to these results: they're closer to modern sardinians, but not that close. And then to southern iberians rather than to southern italians.

Do you means Southern France?

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 01:26 PM
Actually it's rather iberians as a whole (including SW France)

dududud
12-28-2019, 01:47 PM
Actually it's rather iberians as a whole (including SW France)

Do you have sardinians sample? As-tu des samples de sardes ? J'ai l'impression ibericus garde tout pour lui, le p'tit coquin !

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 05:12 PM
Do you have sardinians sample? As-tu des samples de sardes ? J'ai l'impression ibericus garde tout pour lui, le p'tit coquin !

Non, malheureusement je n'ai rien // No, unfortunately I don't have any sample.

dududud
12-28-2019, 05:51 PM
Non, malheureusement je n'ai rien // No, unfortunately I don't have any sample.

OK thanks dude.

T'es de Gascogne ?

Saint-Glinglin
12-28-2019, 08:52 PM
OK thanks dude.

T'es de Gascogne ?

Une partie de ma famille vient de Gascogne (Gers, Landes, Lot-et-Garonne, Hautes-Pyrénées). Et la maison de famille est au cœur de l'Armagnac.

dududud
12-29-2019, 08:22 AM
Une partie de ma famille vient de Gascogne (Gers, Landes, Lot-et-Garonne, Hautes-Pyrénées). Et la maison de famille est au cœur de l'Armagnac.

Je serais intéressé par voir tes résultats Gedmatch.

Saint-Glinglin
12-29-2019, 10:08 AM
Depuis leur rachat par Verogen, je ne suis plus sur Gedmatch. Mais dis-moi quel calculateur t'intéresse et je t'enverrai les résultats. D'ailleurs comment on envoie des messages privés sur ce forum ?

dududud
12-29-2019, 07:40 PM
Depuis leur rachat par Verogen, je ne suis plus sur Gedmatch. Mais dis-moi quel calculateur t'intéresse et je t'enverrai les résultats. D'ailleurs comment on envoie des messages privés sur ce forum ?

Je crois qu'il faut atteindre 20 messages...

Tu peux m'envoyer les résultats du Eurogene K13 et 15.

Saint-Glinglin
12-29-2019, 09:20 PM
Je crois qu'il faut atteindre 20 messages...

Tu peux m'envoyer les résultats du Eurogene K13 et 15.

sgg_k13,39.89,18.35,25.41,8.29,7.22,0,0.17,0,0.35, 0,0.31,0,0

sgg_k15,31.20,19.44,8.87,7.20,21.35,7.47,4.34,0.01 ,0.03,0,0,0,0,0,0

dududud
12-30-2019, 05:09 AM
sgg_k13,39.89,18.35,25.41,8.29,7.22,0,0.17,0,0.35, 0,0.31,0,0

sgg_k15,31.20,19.44,8.87,7.20,21.35,7.47,4.34,0.01 ,0.03,0,0,0,0,0,0

merci camarade.