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andre
12-28-2019, 07:14 PM
Someone have informations about my haplogroup? I don't know how to search and on Eupedia i didn't found nothing.
It's a normal sub-clade for balkans?
94111

TheMaestro
12-28-2019, 07:31 PM
You're white, unlike those E plebs.

andre
12-28-2019, 07:48 PM
Someone?

andre
01-22-2020, 05:12 PM
Someone could help me?

PaleoEuropean
01-22-2020, 05:15 PM
Someone have informations about my haplogroup? I don't know how to search and on Eupedia i didn't found nothing.
It's a normal sub-clade for balkans?
94111

Your Clade is more Germanic-British but most I2 lines exist in the Balkans at small numbers.

PaleoEuropean
01-22-2020, 05:16 PM
Haplogroup I2a2a (M223)
I2a2a (formerly I2b1) amounts to over 90% of I2a2.

I2a2a1 (M284+)
I2-M284 occurs almost exclusively in Britain and Ireland, but has also been found in Portugal, France, Germany and Norway. It is a very old haplogroup, originating some 10,000 years ago and is split in two subclades Y10626 and L1195, which are each about 7,000 years old. Present-day carriers share a common ancestor who lived approximately 5,500 to 6,000 years ago, during the Megalithic age.

I2a2a2 (L701+)
I2-L701 was formed a bit over 10,000 years ago and quickly split in two main branches: L699 and P78.

The L699 branch was found in the Yamna culture (S12195 subclade), the homeland of Proto-Indo-European speakers and of haplogroup R1b-L51. A rare subclade, it is found mostly in Hungary, Germany, Switzerland, the Benelux, France and Britain, all countries with relatively high percentages of haplogroup R1b. L699+ matches the I2 Continental 3b clade at Family Tree DNA.

The P78 branch split into two clades A427 and Y7219 some 5,300 years ago, at the time of the Yamna culture in the Pontic Steppe. It is distributed mostly across Central and Northwest Europe, particularly in Poland, Germany and the Netherlands, but also in Romania, Hungary, Scandinavia, Britain, Ireland, France and Italy. Isolated samples have also been found in Greece, Turkey and Armenia. Like the L701 clade, it might well have originated in the Yamna culture and spread with Proto-Indo-European speakers to Central Europe. One branch of A427 is found among Ashkenazi Jews with mostly German surnames, probably through the convertion of Germans to Judaism during the Middle Ages. P78+ matches the I2 Continental 3a clade at Family Tree DNA.

I2a2a3 (Z161+)
I2-Z161 is the largest I2a2 subclade today. Also formed about 10,000 years ago, it is composed of three top-level subclades: L623, Y5188 and L801. The two first are extremely rare and have only been identified in Scotland and Ireland. 99% of Z161 members belong to L801 and share a common ancestor who lived 4,000 years ago, although L801 subclades experienced a dramatic expansion in the last 2,000 years. L801 is found predominantly in Germanic countries, with a particularly high concentration in Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, England and in Northwest Sicily (Norman settlement). It is also found at lower densities throughout the rest of Europe, from Portugal to Russia. I2-L801 is thought to have been propagated around Europe by the Danish Vikings (Britain, Normandy, Sicily), the Swedish Vikings (Baltic, Russia, Ukraine), the Goths (Moldova, Balkans, Italy, south-west France, Spain), the Suebi (Portugal and Galicia), the Lombards (attested by a hotspot in Campobasso, Molise), and the Franks (Rhineland, Belgium). All top level subclades are found in Germany, which points to its place of origin. Z161+ commonly known as the I2 Continental clade (except Continental 3).

The Y16963 and CTS1977 subclades are also found in Germany, the Benelux and the British Isles.
L1425 is found in Scandinavia, Germany, the Low Countries, England, France, Switzerland and Italy.
S2364 is the largest and most diversified I2a2 subclade. It has the widest distribution of any subclade. It is found in all Germanic countries, including Britain, but also Ireland, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Latvia, Russia, Ukraine, Bulgaria, Italy, France, Spain and Portugal. This suggests that it could have been propagated by the Franks, Anglo-Saxons, Goths and Vikings, among others. S2364 originated nearly 4,000 years ago, but its numerous subclades developed between 3,000 and 1,000 years ago, which matches the time frame of the Germanic ethnogenesis and Germanic migrations.
L1198 is a large branch found mostly in western Europe. That lineage emerged about 3,000 years ago and expanded quickly during the Germanic Iron Age from circa 500 BCE. It is divided in three branches that seem to have their roots in Sweden or Germany.
S20905 is found in Germany (Rhineland), France (Alsace), Switzerland, Hungary, as well as England, Sweden and Finland. The continental group (Z190+) might descend from the Alemanni, Suebi or another Germanic tribe that settled around Swabia.
Y6060 is found in the Netherlands and the British Isles and could be of Frisian and Anglo-Saxon origin.
Y17535 is found in Bohemia, Alsace, Galicia (Spain), Portugal and Britain. The continental branch could be linked to the Suebi tribe, which migrated from Swabia (SW Germany and Alsace) to Galicia and northern Portugal.
Amorim et al. (2018) tested the ancient Lombard-era DNA from 6th-century Italy and Hungary and identified one I2a2a-L801 and three I2a2a-ZS20 (downstream of L801 and S2364) samples in Szólád in western Hungary. They were all autosomally fully northwest European like the I1-L22, R1a-Z284 and the R1b-U106 samples, but unlike the other samples (E-V13, E-V22, G2a1a, I2a2a-L1229, R1b-U152, R1b-Z2103, T1a1a) that were clearly more southern European.

I2a2a4 (L1229+)
I2-L1229 originated some 9,000 years ago. It divided in two branches S18331 and Z2069 about 5,000 years ago. S18331 is the least common of the two and is scattered all over western Europe.It dates from the Late Neolithic/Chalcolithic period and could have been associated with Atlantic Megalithic cultures. Z2069 is more common but has a narrower distribution, limited mostly to central and northern Germany, England, Normandy and other parts of France. It is also found among English surnames in Ireland, although not Norman ones (but rather Anglo-Saxon ones). Its much higher density in Germany and England than in Denmark or France, and its absence from Sicily, indicate that it is probably an Anglo-Saxon lineage rather than Norman/Viking.

Token
01-22-2020, 05:17 PM
Germanic.

Pine
01-23-2020, 01:03 AM
Germanic.

Clade is 14500 years old. "Germanic". You're all retards. Never ask anything about haplogroups here, or anything that has a right answer. You're this: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3259/. That's the best that can be done with what's there. However, someone more familiar with it, can tell you which subclade of it you're more likely to belong to based on the mutations you're positive for.

MagnusDark
01-23-2020, 01:21 PM
Clade is 14500 years old. "Germanic". You're all retards. Never ask anything about haplogroups here, or anything that has a right answer. You're this: https://www.yfull.com/tree/I-Y3259/. That's the best that can be done with what's there. However, someone more familiar with it, can tell you which subclade of it you're more likely to belong to based on the mutations you're positive for.

Most probably still belongs downstream to a Germanic clade that arrived in the middle ages, given the history of some settlements in Romania & Moldova of Germanic peoples. Of course his case could be older basal rarity that splits the branch. Only a full genome Y test will show this though.