ancient egyptian phenotypes

[grecoroman]

https://i.postimg.cc/9XqxZ5hT/11.png

[grecoroman]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/04/45/d8/0445d8abbe40ebabb91123263e21cb3c.jpg

[Abdelnour]

Not black enough...

[Rocinante]

East med

[grecoroman]

Not black enough...

ancient egyptians were never blacks!!

these portraits were from fayum, 300 AD.

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Armenoids

[Adamastor]

A mix of Orientalids/Arabids, Aegyptids, Saharids, Armenoids and some with Ethiopid influences.

They look like modern Egyptians and more like North Africans than like Levantines.

[grecoroman]

A mix of Orientalids/Arabids, Aegyptids, Saharids, Armenoids and some with Ethiopid influences.

They look like modern Egyptians and more like North Africans than like Levantines.

they look no different to modern egyptians

[dududud]

Very ugly.

[Adamm]

They look like modern day egyptians.

[JamesBond007]

I find ancient Egyptian civilization to be overrated. Some think the pyramids must have been built with the help of aliens and crazy shit like that and that they are 'amazing' and can't figure out how humans could have built them back then. However, I can explain, to anyone, how the pyramids were built with primitive mathematics.

On the same note, modern day subsaharan Africans are so primitive they could not even make a civilization as good as ancient Egypt currently.

[grecoroman]

They look like modern day egyptians.

could they pass among modern egyptians??

https://i.postimg.cc/hv90BJN8/11.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Wpr8rKtD/22.png

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

They all look like different variations of Mohamed Salah.

[Adamm]

I find ancient Egyptian civilization to be overrated. Some think the pyramids must have been built with the help of aliens and crazy shit like that and that they are 'amazing' and can't figure out how humans could have built them back then. However, I can explain, to anyone, how the pyramids were built with primitive mathematics.

On the same note, modern day subsaharan Africans are so primitive they could not even make a civilization as good as ancient Egypt currently.

Still it was amazing what they managed to build with their primitive mathematics, watch this and enjoy:


https://youtu.be/Dtw2vfKihXA

[Adamm]

could they pass among modern egyptians??

https://i.postimg.cc/hv90BJN8/11.png
https://i.postimg.cc/Wpr8rKtD/22.png

Yeah absolutely.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

However, I can explain, to anyone, how the pyramids were built with primitive mathematics.

Go ahead...

[grecoroman]

Yeah absolutely.

Too bad it's impossible to conduct DNA testing on Egyptian Mummies and mass Graves, to look at theyr results and compare them to modern egyptians.

[grecoroman]

A mix of Orientalids/Arabids, Aegyptids, Saharids, Armenoids and some with Ethiopid influences.

They look like modern Egyptians and more like North Africans than like Levantines.

Egypt has been the crossroads between North Africa, the levant and the horn of Africa.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

On the same note, modern day subsaharan Africans are so primitive they could not even make a civilization as good as ancient Egypt currently. Doesn’t this statement alone justify the praise that Ancient Egypt has?

[Yorgo]

They look like their descendants, the Copts.

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-TQ725_GettyI_H_20170530162505.jpg

[Kamal900]

They look like their descendants, the Copts.

https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-TQ725_GettyI_H_20170530162505.jpg

Muslims and Copts are both descendants from the ancient Egyptians, and the closest modern day populations to them are the modern day Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, Jordanians and even Arabians as well.

[grecoroman]

Muslims and Copts are both descendants from the ancient Egyptians, and the closest modern day populations to them are the modern day Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, Jordanians and even Arabians as well.

semites and arabians are different to the egyptian peoples

[Latinus]

Mainly caucasoids, some show Nubian influence.

[Kamal900]

semites and arabians are different to the egyptian peoples

Not genetically though. Southern Levantines and Arabians are the closet people to the Egyptians genetically.

[Synapsid]

Not genetically though. Southern Levantines and Arabians are the closet people to the Egyptians genetically.

Ethnic arabs from the peninsula tend have straighter hair than Egyptians tho

[Dna8]

Go ahead...

Bump.

[Kamal900]

Ethnic arabs from the peninsula tend have straighter hair than Egyptians tho

True, but they're very closely related to one another regardless.

[Kamal900]

Too bad it's impossible to conduct DNA testing on Egyptian Mummies and mass Graves, to look at theyr results and compare them to modern egyptians.

We already do, and they cluster the closest to today's Egyptians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Arabians.

[Synapsid]

True, but they're very closely related to one another regardless.

That is because ethnic Arabs from the Peninsula avoided the population turn over of the Levant (migration of Anatolian_N, Iranian Chacolithic farmers, Small Steppe influences etc) and preserved their more natufian stock along side Egyptians. Modern levantines are decedents of bronze age Sidon_BA like population who are West Asian and northern shifted shifted while Egyptians are old stock Levantines of the Neolithic like Arabs.

[Kamal900]

That is because ethnic Arabs from the Peninsula avoided the population turn over of the Levant (migration of Anatolian_N, Iranian Chacolithic farmers, Small Steppe influences etc) and preserved their more natufian stock along side Egyptians. Modern levantines are decedents of bronze age Sidon_BA like population who are West Asian and northern shifted shifted while Egyptians are old stock Levantines of the Neolithic like Arabs.

Basically this.

[lei.talk]

Egypt#Roman_period_(30_BC - 641_AD) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt#Roman_period_(30_BC%E2%80%93641_AD))

https://i.imgur.com/ZPyqnze.png

Ancient_Egypt#History (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Egypt#History)

[dark-mysterio]

isn't the Copts a north african "Hamitic" population like the Berbers :icon1:

[Kamal900]

isn't the Copts a north african "Hamitic" population like the Berbers :icon1:

No, because it doesn't exist. Egyptians, both ancient and modern, cluster the closest to Southern Levantines and Arabians who are Semites which they belong to the South-West Asiatic cluster. Berbers on the other hand belong to their own genetic cluster that is close but distinct from the middle east and Europe called the North African cluster.

[TheForeigner]

We already do, and they cluster the closest to today's Egyptians, Palestinians, Jordanians and Arabians.

Are you referring to this study? https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2017/05/30/ancient-egyptians-black-or-white/

But now we have ancient DNA! Ancient Egyptian mummy genomes suggest an increase of Sub-Saharan African ancestry in post-Roman periods:

Egypt, located on the isthmus of Africa, is an ideal region to study historical population dynamics due to its geographic location and documented interactions with ancient civilizations in Africa, Asia and Europe. Particularly, in the first millennium BCE Egypt endured foreign domination leading to growing numbers of foreigners living within its borders possibly contributing genetically to the local population. Here we present 90 mitochondrial genomes as well as genome-wide data sets from three individuals obtained from Egyptian mummies. The samples recovered from Middle Egypt span around 1,300 years of ancient Egyptian history from the New Kingdom to the Roman Period. Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more ancestry with Near Easterners than present-day Egyptians, who received additional sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times. This analysis establishes ancient Egyptian mummies as a genetic source to study ancient human history and offers the perspective of deciphering Egypt’s past at a genome-wide level.

[Celine]

Interesting.

[Kamal900]

Are you referring to this study? https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2017/05/30/ancient-egyptians-black-or-white/

But now we have ancient DNA! Ancient Egyptian mummy genomes suggest an increase of Sub-Saharan African ancestry in post-Roman periods:

Egypt, located on the isthmus of Africa, is an ideal region to study historical population dynamics due to its geographic location and documented interactions with ancient civilizations in Africa, Asia and Europe. Particularly, in the first millennium BCE Egypt endured foreign domination leading to growing numbers of foreigners living within its borders possibly contributing genetically to the local population. Here we present 90 mitochondrial genomes as well as genome-wide data sets from three individuals obtained from Egyptian mummies. The samples recovered from Middle Egypt span around 1,300 years of ancient Egyptian history from the New Kingdom to the Roman Period. Our analyses reveal that ancient Egyptians shared more ancestry with Near Easterners than present-day Egyptians, who received additional sub-Saharan admixture in more recent times. This analysis establishes ancient Egyptian mummies as a genetic source to study ancient human history and offers the perspective of deciphering Egypt’s past at a genome-wide level.

That, and thanks to the study we have their samples to calculate their G25 and gedmatch results :)

[dark-mysterio]

No, because it doesn't exist. Egyptians, both ancient and modern, cluster the closest to Southern Levantines and Arabians who are Semites which they belong to the South-West Asiatic cluster. Berbers on the other hand belong to their own genetic cluster that is close but distinct from the middle east and Europe called the North African cluster.

ok thank you

[Negah]

I have encountered many intelligent people from Egypt in the west. Very nice people.

[Negah]

Not genetically though. Southern Levantines and Arabians are the closet people to the Egyptians genetically.

And phenotype wise too. Many Egyptians look Levantine to me.

[Numidia]

That is because ethnic Arabs from the Peninsula avoided the population turn over of the Levant (migration of Anatolian_N, Iranian Chacolithic farmers, Small Steppe influences etc) and preserved their more natufian stock along side Egyptians. Modern levantines are decedents of bronze age Sidon_BA like population who are West Asian and northern shifted shifted while Egyptians are old stock Levantines of the Neolithic like Arabs.

Today there is no ethnic arabs in arabia the tribal arabs were from yemen


isn't the Copts a north african "Hamitic" population like the Berbers :icon1:

Copts have more foreign admixture hamitic theory is non sense proto semites were originally ancient egyptians


No, because it doesn't exist. Egyptians, both ancient and modern, cluster the closest to Southern Levantines and Arabians who are Semites which they belong to the South-West Asiatic cluster. Berbers on the other hand belong to their own genetic cluster that is close but distinct from the middle east and Europe called the North African cluster.

No modern arabians egyptians and levantines are heavily mixed

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0192269

This populations are so heterogenous that isolated bedouins of arabia are grouped with maghrebis because they perserved their ancient north africans genes (egyptians)
You live in arabia you must know that the residents are fed up of palestinians who try to stick them by claiming common ancestry and many tried with jews too
For people who don't know about palestinians problems of identity you will pass for a psycho especially when you bring religion the same way

[grecoroman]

Yeah absolutely.

https://i.postimg.cc/4xf0rMz8/11.png

[Adamm]

https://i.postimg.cc/4xf0rMz8/11.png

Looks like modern Egyptian women.

[lameduck]

egyptians are beautiful , of all the menas i have seen egyptians have the most occurrences of features that I like , they have refined features.

[grecoroman]

Looks like modern Egyptian women.

https://i.postimg.cc/GhvptBTB/11.png


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q385wkeH-w

[Kamal900]

And phenotype wise too. Many Egyptians look Levantine to me.

Pretty much, yeah.

[grecoroman]

Pretty much, yeah.

Welcome back brother!! I missed you.

[Zuh]

They look like a admixture of Greeks/Romans East Mediterranean and 10-15% SSA to me.

[Kamal900]

Welcome back brother!! I missed you.

Yeah, and a happy new year :)

[Kamal900]

Today there is no ethnic arabs in arabia the tribal arabs were from yemen



Copts have more foreign admixture hamitic theory is non sense proto semites were originally ancient egyptians



No modern arabians egyptians and levantines are heavily mixed

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0192269

This populations are so heterogenous that isolated bedouins of arabia are grouped with maghrebis because they perserved their ancient north africans genes (egyptians)
You live in arabia you must know that the residents are fed up of palestinians who try to stick them by claiming common ancestry and many tried with jews too
For people who don't know about palestinians problems of identity you will pass for a psycho especially when you bring religion the same way

A troll like you shouldn't be talking about things that they have no idea about. I have their G25 results which shows that these groups cluster the closest to one another than either of them to Berbers who belong to their own unique cluster that is close but different from the middle east.

[grecoroman]

shiieeett bud day wuz blak.

[dydyflorent36]

ancient egyptians were never blacks!!

these portraits were from fayum, 300 AD.You do know Canaanite immigrants were in Ancient Egypt in the Middle Kingdom furthermore the Fayum portraits are from the Greco Roman period hardly a useful representation of Ancient Egyptians as the area has been invaded, occupied and settled by foreigners countless of times. Ptolemaic Egypt was already a very multicultural place let alone the Roman period. Many foreigners also assimilated amongst the Native population.


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[grecoroman]

Muslims and Copts are both descendants from the ancient Egyptians, and the closest modern day populations to them are the modern day Egyptians, Jordanians, Palestinians, Jordanians and even Arabians as well.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLXOkZtAkPw

[InfamousAngel99]

Wonderful artwork!

[Kamal900]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLXOkZtAkPw

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These Aframs have nothing to do with the Afro-Asiatics and the East-Sudanic groups of North-East and East Africa.