Classy me please

[Aileron]

Hi new member here,

I would like to know my taxonomy about my pheno and hear your opinions about it.(İ think i have some Turanid)

I am Turkish and from Denizli a city in southwestern part of the country.

Pls no trolling ( i know it happens in antro sites lol)

https://resmim.net/f/HbE5na.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/E8UDho.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/5rISCj.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/IW2OKk.jpg

https://resmim.net/f/ZOzEvt.jpg

[Kutlu]

Hoşgeldin

I think you are Dinarid(depigmented) with some Turanid

[Aileron]

Hoşgeldin

I think you are Dinarid(depigmented) with some Turanid

Thanks for the answer/Teşekkürler

[archangel]

Some sort of North Pontid/Turanid, you look kinda Tatarish

[Aileron]

Some sort of North Pontid/Turanid, you look kinda Tatarish

Thanks for the reply, i dont know about much about North Pontid going to search for it (i know about Turanid though)

[The Great Uniter]

You have Turanid and (North) Pontid with some reduced subnordid. Can't pinpoint exactly. You are hard to classify. You are clearly not Dinarid in the slightest.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

N. pontid + Some Turanid, you'd pass in Romania

[Aileron]

You have Turanid and (North) Pontid with some reduced subnordid. Can't pinpoint exactly. You are hard to classify. You are clearly not Dinarid in the slightest.

Thank you, i am going to search more for phenotypes

[Aileron]

N. pontid + Some Turanid, you'd pass in Romania

Thank you

[nittionia]

Welcome :)

[The Great Uniter]

Welcome :)

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[Aileron]

Welcome :)

Thanks :)

[Mr.G]

I think North Pontid may be the best choice. Not sure about Turanid, something is altering you from textbook North Pontid, but I'm not sure what it is.

[Aileron]

I think North Pontid may be the best choice. Not sure about Turanid, something is altering you from textbook North Pontid, but I'm not sure what it is.

Thanks, i think i have some Turanid component in my eye areas as Turanid is shown in my other family members too

[Negah]

North Pontid.

[Aileron]

North Pontid.

Thanks for the answer

[Blondie]

Norid, not turanid

[Aileron]

Norid, not turanid

Thank you but i think i have Turanid component in my eye area and Turanid is visible in my family members too

[Nassbean]

Pontid + minor turanid + something else ( that can explain your light hair)

[Aileron]

Pontid + minor turanid + something else ( that can explain your light hair)

Thanks my friend

[Salonikios]

Do you know your ancestry? It can help for classification.

[Aileron]

Do you know your ancestry? It can help for classification.

ı am Turkish, My fathers side are from Denizli as i mentioned and far as we know we are Yörük
My mothers side are from Kastamonu a city in central Black sea region.

[Salonikios]

ı am Turkish, My fathers side are from Denizli as i mentioned and far as we know we are Yörük
My mothers side are from Kastamonu a city in central Black sea region.

I do not think Anatolian Yörüks have many nordid influenced types but Balkan Yörüks or Balkan Turks have more nordid admixture for sure. Maybe you can have muhajir ancestor. You can be native too if you say so.

[kalach]

Depigmented ponto-turanid. Looks northwestern Turkic.

[Ranger0075]

I think u looks Russian

[Aileron]

I do not think Anatolian Yörüks have many nordid influenced types but Balkan Yörüks or Balkan Turks have more nordid admixture for sure. Maybe you can have muhajir ancestor. You can be native too if you say so.

I dont think we have Nordid influence and most of the Yörüks left the nomadic lifestyle actually and migrated to cities my fathers family has done it generations ago.
As far as i know i dont have any ancestry outside of the mentioned

[Aileron]

Depigmented ponto-turanid. Looks northwestern Turkic.

Thanks dostum

[Aileron]

I think u looks Russian

Thank you my friend

[Aldaris]

Third photo looks as though Kraftwerk, another Turkish member, shaved himself, colored his hair and made yet another account. Anyway, welcome.

[Aileron]

Third photo looks as though Kraftwerk, another Turkish member, shaved himself, colored his hair and made yet another account. Anyway, welcome.

Thanks my friend, though i dont know the other Turkish user but i know there are quite a few Turkish members here even a Turkish forum

[Salonikios]

I dont think we have Nordid influence and most of the Yörüks left the nomadic lifestyle actually and migrated to cities my fathers family has done it generations ago.
As far as i know i dont have any ancestry outside of the mentioned

It is actually steppe admixture. Balkan Turks can have 40-50(North Atlantic- Baltid components). Anatolians have less mostly 20-30. You are pontid-turanid then. No nordid at all.

[kalach]

Thanks dostum

Önemli değil, you look too westernized for a Turkic. I guess not all western phenotypes came by balkan assimilation, jannisary system etc. Second and third photo look Central European, but the first one proves Turkic origin. Hair can deceive true phenotype. One should be classified without hair and heard for better results.

[Salonikios]

I dont think we have Nordid influence and most of the Yörüks left the nomadic lifestyle actually and migrated to cities my fathers family has done it generations ago.
As far as i know i dont have any ancestry outside of the mentioned

It is actually steppe admixture. Balkan Turks can have 40-50(North Atlantic- Baltid components). Anatolians have less mostly 20-30. You are pontid-turanid then. No nordid at all. By the way you dyed your hair? :D

[Aileron]

It is actually steppe admixture. Balkan Turks can have 40-50(North Atlantic- Baltid components). Anatolians have less mostly 20-30. You are pontid-turanid then. No nordid at all. By the way you dyed your hair? :D

No man its natural lol:)

[itilvolga]

Sal artık şu forumu. İnsanların haberi olmadan fotoğraflarını paylaşıyorsun bir de burada. Her açtığın hesap banlanacak, anla artık, kendini daha fazla komik duruma düşürme.

[Aileron]

Sal artık şu forumu. İnsanların haberi olmadan fotoğraflarını paylaşıyorsun bir de burada. Her açtığın hesap banlanacak, anla artık, kendini daha fazla komik duruma düşürme.

Bişey anlamadım?

[itilvolga]

Bişey anlamadım?

Bir kağıda Aileron yazıp yüzünün en azından yarısının gözükeceği şekilde fotoğraf paylaşırsan bir şey anlamana gerek kalmayacak.

[Rgvgjhvv]

I see absolutely no turanid influence whatsoever. Welcome to the forum.

[Aileron]

I see absolutely no turanid influence whatsoever. Welcome to the forum.

Thank you my friend

[Aileron]

More classification?

[Aileron]

More opinions?

[Kivan]

Corded Nordid.

[Aileron]

Corded Nordid.

That would be very far fetched imho

Nordids have a different kind of dacial shape imho
Mine is more almond
https://resmim.net/f/4zQC5R.jpg

[Aileron]

bump.

[Wolfdog]

Pontid mainly + some Borreby or Baltid or both types

My TOP 5 countries for you

1. Russia
2. Ukraine
3. Moldova
4. Belorussia
5. Poland

[Samnium]

You don't look turkic at all. You pass easily as european.

[Aileron]

Pontid mainly + some Borreby or Baltid or both types

My TOP 5 countries for you

1. Russia
2. Ukraine
3. Moldova
4. Belorussia
5. Poland

Thank you my friend, i have the pigmention but i think my facial features would look off in most slavic countries

[Aileron]

You don't look turkic at all. You pass easily as european.

Turkic is a very broad term from asian looking to european looking.
Many Turkics before us(Anatolian and Balkan Turks) settled in Europea such as Cumans,Huns and some of the early Hungarian tribes were Turkic origin

[Mr.G]

I still say North Pontid with minor West Turanid.

[Samnium]

Turkic is a very broad term from asian looking to european looking.
Many Turkics before us(Anatolian and Balkan Turks) settled in Europea such as Cumans,Huns and some of the early Hungarian tribes were Turkic origin

Yes Turks are very diverse when it comes to look. I had a turkish neighbor he could pass in Mongolia, and he wasn't even from "Anatolia" proper but from Aegean Coast (Izmir).

[Kivan]

That would be very far fetched imho

Nordids have a different kind of dacial shape imho
Mine is more almond

No, not really.

You don't look remotely close to anything with "Pontid" in the name. You look close to the Corded plate:
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%2027.jpg


But i agree, depending on the angle/photo, i think there's something Turkic on your eye area.

[Aileron]

No, not really.

You don't look remotely close to anything with "Pontid" in the name. You look close to the Corded plate:
http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/Photos/Coon%20Plate%2027.jpg


But i agree, depending on the angle/photo, i think there's something Turkic on your eye area.

Thank you my friend

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

Kurdish look.

[Wolfdog]

Thank you my friend, i have the pigmention but i think my facial features would look off in most slavic countries

I am talking about facial features. Sure, pigmentation = very speculative characteristics.
But your facial proportions, nose, cheekbones look very "Pontic", also transformed by some Baltic features.
In my region ( South Ukraine ) you would pass easily as local.
And 90% of regional population = Slavic people (Ukrainians, Russian, Poles and various interblends ).
P.S.
Surely, majority of Anatolian Turks look West Asian / East Mediterranean ,
and many East Slavs look uniquely "Slavic"/Osteuropoid
But I don't think there is something non-realistic due to strong input of Ancient North Eurasian blood in East Europe as well as in Anatolia.
IMO
your phenotype ("Pontid"/"North Pontid") could be the result of recombination = East Med. Early Neolothic + Steppic Ancient North Eurasian blood...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/c2/cb/bec2cb8e8a345e1968b85e7bf2411458.png

[Aileron]

Thanks for the answers

[Aileron]

I am talking about facial features. Sure, pigmentation = very speculative characteristics.
But your facial proportions, nose, cheekbones look very "Pontic", also transformed by some Baltic features.
In my region ( South Ukraine ) you would pass easily as local.
And 90% of regional population = Slavic people (Ukrainians, Russian, Poles and various interblends ).
P.S.
Surely, majority of Anatolian Turks look West Asian / East Mediterranean ,
and many East Slavs look uniquely "Slavic"/Osteuropoid
But I don't think there is something non-realistic due to strong input of Ancient North Eurasian blood in East Europe as well as in Anatolia.
IMO
your phenotype ("Pontid"/"North Pontid") could be the result of recombination = East Med. Early Neolothic + Steppic Ancient North Eurasian blood...
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/be/c2/cb/bec2cb8e8a345e1968b85e7bf2411458.png

Wow thanks for the answer my friend, thats lots of information

[Kyp]

Yes Turks are very diverse when it comes to look. I had a turkish neighbor he could pass in Mongolia, and he wasn't even from "Anatolia" proper but from Aegean Coast (Izmir).

Aegan Coast is one of the more mongoloid influenced regions in Turkey so it makes sense.

[anaise]

North Pontid. I think u look pan european.

[Aileron]

Yes Turks are very diverse when it comes to look. I had a turkish neighbor he could pass in Mongolia, and he wasn't even from "Anatolia" proper but from Aegean Coast (Izmir).

I am a Yörük and we are supposed to be more Turkic in genetics compared the avarage
I will see it finish taking the test

[Kaspias]

Kurdish look.

Lol?

[LittleBeyond]

Lol?

Kurdish = Turk minus Central Asian genes. Turks and Kurds need to start loving each other

[Kaspias]

Kurdish = Turk minus Central Asian genes. Turks and Kurds need to start loving each other

I'm closer to the Germans than Kurds, just saying

[Kyp]

I'm closer to the Germans than Kurds, just saying

You are Balkan Turk. Genetic outlier.
It's a fact that most Turks are closer to Kurds than to Greeks even.
And I don't know why I will get hate for this, just by stating facts

[Kaspias]

You are Balkan Turk.
It's a fact that most Turks are closer to Kurds than to Greeks even.

Kurdish = Turk minus Central Asian genes. Turks and Kurds need to start loving each other

I'm Turk

Only Eastern and some Central Anatolian Turks closer Kurds than Greeks


What is the relevance with loving Kurds anyway, he doesn't look like Kurds. Wtf is this reaction?

[LittleBeyond]

@Aileron You pass anywhere in Europe.

[Kyp]

Kurdish = Turk minus Central Asian genes. Turks and Kurds need to start loving each other

I'm Turk

Only Eastern and some Central Anatolian Turks closer Kurds than Greeks


What is the relevance with loving Kurds anyway, he doesn't look like Kurds. Wtf is this reaction?

Even Central Western Turks are closer to Kurds actually. I think only Aegan Turks (Southwest excluded) are closer to Greeks. I'm not responsible for the trolling I was just reacting to the response.

[LittleBeyond]

Kurdish = Turk minus Central Asian genes. Turks and Kurds need to start loving each other

I'm Turk

Only Eastern and some Central Anatolian Turks closer Kurds than Greeks


What is the relevance with loving Kurds anyway, he doesn't look like Kurds. Wtf is this reaction?

Kivan explains well the relevance. Turks by hating Kurds are basically just hating themselves. Sad reality that close people hate each other, Bosnian VS Serb, Turk vs Kurd

[Kaspias]

Even Central Western Turks are closer to Kurds actually. I think only Aegan Turks (Southwest excluded) are closer to Greeks. I'm not responsible for the trolling I was just reacting to the response.

How a Balkan Turk can be the genetic outlier with a population more than any Balkan nation? Turkish ethnicity covers both Balkan and Anatolian Turks.

No, they don't. In some calculators they do because there is no Cappadocian Greek reference.



Kivan explains well the relevance. Turks by hating Kurds are basically just hating themselves. Sad reality that close people hate each other, Bosnian VS Serb, Turk vs Kurd

Man, seriously asking, what is the relevance with loving Kurds or hating Kurds with my statement. He doesn't look like Kurd. If i would say he doesn't look like Turk would you write "you should start to love Turks"?

Amazing...

[LittleBeyond]

Dude, Balkan Turks are closer to their host country than to any part of Turkey. I wasn't even discussing the looks of the guy lol

[Kaspias]

Dude, Balkan Turks are closer to their host country than to any part of Turkey. I wasn't even discussing the looks of the guy lol


Balkan Turks are closer to their host country than to any part of Turkey

Okay. So?


I wasn't even discussing the looks of the guy lol

Then why you commented on me?

[LittleBeyond]

Okay. So?



Then why you commented on me?

It was accidentally.

[Kyp]

How a Balkan Turk can be the genetic outlier with a population more than any Balkan nation? Turkish ethnicity covers both Balkan and Anatolian Turks.

No, they don't. In some calculators they do because there is no Cappadocian Greek reference.






Distance to: Turk_Central_West
12.95431974 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.29344951 Zaza
14.21806246 Greek_Cappadocia
14.61888163 Kurd_Sorani

[LittleBeyond]

Distance to: Turk_Central_West
12.95431974 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.29344951 Zaza
14.21806246 Greek_Cappadocia
14.61888163 Kurd_Sorani

Turks in general identify as Turks because of their shared Central Asian genes with each other?

[ooops]

Norid
You could pass anywhere in Europe

[Zmey Gorynych]

You seem to have a long head so I do not think that you have Dinarid influence. Turanid is unlikely for the same reason. I'd say you're an Irano-Nordid.

[Kyp]

Turks in general identify as Turks because of their shared Central Asian genes with each other?

idk if it's that easy.

[Kaspias]

Distance to: Turk_Central_West
12.95431974 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.29344951 Zaza
14.21806246 Greek_Cappadocia
14.61888163 Kurd_Sorani

https://i.ibb.co/PwF7N6Q/kr1.png
https://i.ibb.co/KxB4Y7Q/kr2.png
https://i.ibb.co/fdJrTXg/kr3.png
https://i.ibb.co/C9TPjX4/kr4.png

[LittleBeyond]

https://i.ibb.co/PwF7N6Q/kr1.png
https://i.ibb.co/KxB4Y7Q/kr2.png
https://i.ibb.co/fdJrTXg/kr3.png
https://i.ibb.co/C9TPjX4/kr4.png

The distance isn't high, still close nonetheless.

[Kaspias]

The distance isn't high, still close nonetheless.

Do you think it is because of Turks have Kurdish ancestry in general?

[Lousianaboy]

fair turanid+pontid

[LittleBeyond]

Do you think it is because of Turks have Kurdish ancestry in general?

Yes. Central Turks are basically Kurds with some Asian genes. Considering the history of Turkey, it makes sense.

[Kyp]

Do you think it is because of Turks have Kurdish ancestry in general?

For the record: I don't. That would only be Azerbaijani people who share NW Iranian related ancestry with Kurds.
But all Oğuzlar share some kind of Iranic ancestry albeit central asian or from Khorasan/Khoresm.

[Kaspias]

Yes. Central Turks are basically Kurds with some Asian genes. Considering the history of Turkey, it makes sense.

No.

There are three major stop in the Oghuz migration to the West.

1. Iran
2. Anatolia
3. Balkans

Oghuz Turks were already carrying around 25% Iranic-like genes. They are also mixed with Farsi people during the Seljuk Empire. In Anatolia, they mixed with Greek speaker Central Anatolians.

Kurdish genetic at the halfway between Anatolia and Iran which is close to the admixture of Anatolian Turks, makes them plot closely. It is neither about Kurds have Turkish DNA nor Turks have Kurdish DNA.

[LittleBeyond]

lol

[Khamzat]

You can pass in NW Europe If you told me you're English, I wouldn't question it.

[Kivan]

Results of a Yörük from Antalya (Southern Turkey):



Eurogenes K13:

Admix Results (sorted):

#Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.48
2 West_Asian 23.15
3 West_Med 15.03
4 North_Atlantic 9.92
5 Baltic 7.17
6 Siberian 6.25
7 Red_Sea 4.92
8 East_Asian 4.45
9 South_Asian 3.71
10 Amerindian 0.91
11 Northeast_African 0.66
12 Sub-Saharan 0.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 9.93
2 Central_Greek 14.66
3 Azeri 14.79
4 East_Sicilian 15.23
5 South_Italian 15.85
6 Italian_Abruzzo 16.31
7 Turkmen 17.09
8 Ashkenazi 17.37
9 Greek_Thessaly 17.78
10 Lebanese_Muslim 18.36
11 West_Sicilian 18.4
12 Sephardic_Jewish 18.58
13 Syrian 18.8
14 Cyprian 18.88
15 Kumyk 19.44
16 Nogay 19.84
17 Algerian_Jewish 19.9
18 Assyrian 20.13
19 Armenian 20.22
20 Georgian_Jewish 20.22

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.1% Nogay + 49.9% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.66
2 51.7% Sephardic_Jewish + 48.3% Nogay @ 3.85
3 51.2% Nogay + 48.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.18
4 50.7% Nogay + 49.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.28
5 51.7% Nogay + 48.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.3
6 53.1% East_Sicilian + 46.9% Turkmen @ 4.36
7 54.2% Central_Greek + 45.8% Turkmen @ 4.53
8 56% South_Italian + 44% Nogay @ 4.64
9 52.1% South_Italian + 47.9% Turkmen @ 4.7
10 51.3% Cyprian + 48.7% Nogay @ 4.76
11 61.7% South_Italian + 38.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.06
12 52% Turkmen + 48% West_Sicilian @ 5.35
13 62.9% East_Sicilian + 37.1% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.44
14 57.3% East_Sicilian + 42.7% Nogay @ 5.53
15 64% Central_Greek + 36% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.62
16 55.7% Algerian_Jewish + 44.3% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.69
17 54.2% Turkmen + 45.8% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.81
18 55.1% Italian_Jewish + 44.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.82
19 81.2% Turkish + 18.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.89
20 83.2% Turkish + 16.8% Southwest_French @ 5.91

[Kaspias]

lol

Why you deleted lol?

Your results seem like 1/2 Ashkenazi(may be from Ukraine-Russia-Belarussia) and 1/2 Russian. That Russian admixture most probably something ancestral though, not direct half-half mixing.

[Kyp]

Distance to: Yoruk
5.34286440 Turk_Southwest
6.40164041 Turk_Northwest
7.00106420 Turk_South
7.32684107 Turk_Anatolia
8.11559610 Turk_Central_West
8.12193327 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.17934594 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.17355395 Turk_Central_East
10.97013674 Turk_Southeast
11.89968907 Azerbaijani
12.30317032 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.36426204 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.57236899 Turkmen_Iran
13.68058844 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
16.26494082 Turkmens
16.51225908 Nogais
16.87101953 Turk_East
16.92049349 Turkmen_Iraq
17.00806573 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.22603263 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.57841859 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
17.65871456 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
17.86289730 Zaza
18.41464634 Kurd_Sorani
18.54498315 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Distance to: Turk_Southwest
3.01565913 Turk_Northwest
3.06874567 Turk_West_BlackSea
3.57499650 Turk_Anatolia
3.93927658 Turk_Central_West
4.58265207 Turk_South
5.34286440 Yoruk
5.96720202 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.10259108 Turk_Central_East
8.77450283 Turk_Southeast
10.71691187 Azerbaijani
10.73178923 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.01615178 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.52067490 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.25365610 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
14.32371111 Turk_East
15.10825602 Greek_Crete
15.50562156 Turkmen_Iraq
15.72867127 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.35716663 Zaza
16.52105324 Turkmen_Iran
16.61971721 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.11346394 Italy_Apulia
17.29466392 Kurd_Sorani
17.53040216 Greek_Cappadocia
17.61471260 Nusayri_Turkey

Distance to: Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.87492609 Turk_South
3.12878571 Turk_Anatolia
3.26151805 Turk_Central_East
3.97127184 Turk_Central_West
5.84011130 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.96720202 Turk_Southwest
6.32729010 Turk_Southeast
7.26728973 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.07275046 Azerbaijani
8.17934594 Yoruk
8.71727595 Turk_Northwest
9.44748644 Turk_East
9.47815383 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.73187339 Zaza
12.76124602 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.76553955 Turkmen_Iraq
13.92369922 Armenian_East
14.14873493 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.60065409 Greek_Cappadocia
14.66124483 Kurd_Sorani
14.88950301 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.07794747 Uzbekistan_Jews
15.18198933 Nusayri_Turkey
15.23924539 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.37210461 Armenian_West

[Aileron]

Wow this thread flourished since last time i checked

[Aileron]

More bumpp

[Kyp]

Proto Nordid

[Aileron]

Proto Nordid

I assocaite Nordid with North Euro region but i dont think i can pass in there

[Pater Patota]

I fell in love you dear :033102to:

[Kyp]

@Aileron

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

Proto Nordid is the most eastern version of Nordid, Probably related to old Iranic peoples of Central Asia, which would also contribute to Turkic migrations.

[Aileron]

@Aileron

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

Proto Nordid is the most eastern version of Nordid, Probably related to old Iranic peoples of Central Asia, which would also contribute to Turkic migrations.
Thats makes sense thanks��

[Pater Patota]

You’re atypical Turkish not like middle eastern “barzo” looking, you’re so fine Euro looking beautiful guy!

[Aileron]

You’re atypical Turkish not like middle eastern “barzo” looking, you’re so fine Euro looking beautiful guy!

Dostum barzo diyerek doğuluları mı kastediyorsun:)

[Pater Patota]

Dostum barzo diyerek doğuluları mı kastediyorsun:)

Doğu Akdeniz, Doğu Anadolu İran bileşiklerini yani Ermeni-Kürt-İran tipleri evet kıllı ayıları kastediyorum.

[Aileron]

Doğu Akdeniz, Doğu Anadolu İran bileşiklerini yani Ermeni-Kürt-İran tipleri evet kıllı ayıları kastediyorum.
Kardeşim onlarda bizim insanımız yav ayrıştırmayalım

[LittleBeyond]

LOL @ these classifications.

[Aileron]

LOL @ these classifications.

what do you think my friend, there are lots of different opinions :)

[LittleBeyond]

what do you think my friend, there are lots of different opinions :)

These classifications are non-scientific; I can just tell you that you can pass as any European ethnicity. Europeans are quite diverse, some North Europeans like Swedes can even end up looking like Cypriots. I went to a tour in Europe.

[Aileron]

These classifications are non-scientific; I can just tell you that you can pass as any European ethnicity. Europeans are quite diverse, some North Europeans like Swedes can even end up looking like Cypriots. I went to a tour in Europe.
why is he banned though?

[Crimson Winds]

Not sure but definetly not Pontid. Every Western-looking Turkish classified as Pontid here nevertheles.

[GiCa]

Very intetesting

You are Nordic adapted plus turanid (east asian genes vibe in your face) that makes you pass also in finland, Russia, Ukraine.. The north east of europe, russia/eurasia

[kalach]

I don't know why but you remind me Heinrich Himmler with better bone development:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/59/da/b059daf902f8457e8c4148dc2b56dce3.jpg

[Aileron]

Thanks for the answers

[GiCa]

Very intetesting

You are Nordic adapted plus turanid (east asian genes vibe in your face) that makes you pass also in finland, Russia, Ukraine.. The north east of europe, russia/eurasia

In particular turkey is right on front of and down below Ukraine (you cross the Black Sea and you are already in Crimea)

You would perfectly fit also there

[Aileron]

In particular turkey is right on front of and down below Ukraine (you cross the Black Sea and you are already in Crimea)

You would perfectly fit also there

Thanks for detailed answer
Can i pass in Italy?

[Aileron]

Last bumpish

[hedonist]

You look like a swedish viking

I think your descended from Varangian mercenaries employed by the Byzantine empire

[Aileron]

You look like a swedish viking

I think your descended from Varangian mercenaries employed by the Byzantine empire

Thanks but this is a little bit far fetched :)

[Duffmannn]

You pass easily in a wide range of eastern Europe (Poland, Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Romania, ex-Yugoslavia, Bulgaria), Turkey, Finland, Kazakhstan russians and as a uncommon Scandinavian (Norway, Sweden)

You have a weird look that I would classify as "nordified tatar" or "nordified turanid turk", obviously much more common in Russia than in Turkey. Do you have circassian or slav ancestry? It seems so.

[Yamnaya]

You look kelto-nordid imo. People mostly just classify you because of your ethnicity. If you would say youre from Ireland, people would have answered differently

[Yamnaya]

You pass easily in a wide range of eastern Europe (Poland, Baltics, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Romania, ex-Yugoslavia, Bulgaria), Turkey, Finland, Kazakhstan russians and as a uncommon Scandinavian (Norway, Sweden)

You have a weird look that I would classify as "nordified tatar" or "nordified turanid turk", obviously much more common in Russia than in Turkey. Do you have circassian or slav ancestry? It seems so.

I dont see him passing in Russia, hes too western shifted

[Moje ime]

You look western to me (on some photos). Would not pass in Serbia. Nordid + something else. Nothing Dinarid.

[Aileron]

Thanks for the answers

[archangel]

On a second look kind of Nordid

[Kamal900]

You look quite British looking to me. Which region of Turkey are you from btw?

[Aileron]

You look quite British looking to me. Which region of Turkey are you from btw?

I am from southwestern part of the country my friend.

[Kamal900]

I am from southwestern part of the country my friend.

It makes sense considering that western Turks are genetically more Mongoloid admixed than other Turks which gives you the pseudo-Northern European look on you with your pigmentation and all. Do you have any genetic results of you here?

[Aileron]

It makes sense considering that western Turks are genetically more Mongoloid admixed than other Turks which gives you the pseudo-Northern European look on you with your pigmentation and all. Do you have any genetic results of you here?

Thanks my friend unfortunately i dont have any genetic results but i am planning to do it

[aherne]

Steppe Type Aryan (proto-Nordid) + some Turanid. Nothing else whatsoever... I would have guessed you as Kazan Tatar.

[Aileron]

Steppe type aryan + some Turanid. Nothing else whatsoever...

Thank you my friend, would you tell me what is steppe Aryan? Some kind of Nordid?

[Yamnaya]

Thank you my friend, would you tell me what is steppe Aryan? Some kind of Nordid?

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html




Do you have any Syrian ancestry?

[aherne]

Thank you my friend, would you tell me what is steppe Aryan? Some kind of Nordid?

The original Indo-European phenotype I mean. It is by far the dominant type in you, but there is Turanid as well obviously (hence similarity to Kazan Tatars).

[Aileron]

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html


Do you have any Syrian ancestry?

Nope my friend i dont, so Proto Nordid is a steppe variant so maybe i have due to my steppe ancestry...

[Yamnaya]

Nope my friend i dont, so Proto Nordid is a steppe variant so maybe i have due to my steppe ancestry...

Turks on average score more steppe ancestry than Spaniards, so its not uncommon

[Aileron]

The original Indo-European phenotype I mean. It is by far the dominant type in you, but there is Turanid as well obviously (hence similarity to Kazan Tatars).

I am a Yörük actually a part of Turkish group who managed to be partially nomadic for hundred years so i am probably more Turkic hence steppe admixed than avarage Turkish person

[Yamnaya]

I am a Yörük actually a part of Turkish group who managed to be partially nomadic for hundred years so i am probably more Turkic hence steppe admixed than avarage Turkish person

I havent seen many results comparing Yöruk to Yamnaya, but it would be really interesting to see results of your people, because Yöruk have very Euro looks

[Aileron]

I havent seen many results comparing Yöruk to Yamnaya, but it would be really interesting to see results of your people, because Yöruk have very Euro looks
I am wondering it too , most of Yörüks left the nomadic lifestyle years ago such as mine

[GeniusPanos]

Nordic with Turanid influence on cheekbones.

[Aileron]

Nordic with Turanid influence on cheekbones.

Thanks my friend

[Gota_type_]

I am a Yörük actually a part of Turkish group who managed to be partially nomadic for hundred years so i am probably more Turkic hence steppe admixed than avarage Turkish person

I guess that after many centuries of turks under bizantine rule and the many wars and exchanges between turks and slavs and considering the base of indoeuropeans that inhabited turkey in the past, that all would explain that there exist types like you. If I saw you in the street I would say that you are from Poland or some mix of Eastern Europe + Baltid.

By the way, what do you think about islam growing in Europe? Do you support it? Do you understand how we Europeans hate what is happening? I ask you because you look basically European yet you are a turk and put "islam" in your profile, so I guess that you support what is going on in Europe with your religion. Not that I really care but just to see if the most European looking turks also support our destruction and that you feel closer to a mulatto moroccoan than to a slavic christian.

[Aileron]

I guess that after many centuries of turks under bizantine rule and the many wars and exchanges between turks and slavs and considering the base of indoeuropeans that inhabited turkey in the past, that all would explain that there exist types like you. If I saw you in the street I would say that you are from Poland or some mix of Eastern Europe + Baltid.

By the way, what do you think about islam growing in Europe? Do you support it? Do you understand how we Europeans hate what is happening? I ask you because you look basically European yet you are a turk and put "islam" in your profile, so I guess that you support what is going on in Europe with your religion. Not that I really care but just to see if the most European looking turks also support our destruction and that you feel closer to a mulatto moroccoan than to a slavic christian.

İ will reply this when i have time but i suggest you to look differently to the issue ....

[Aileron]

Okay thanks to everybody who contributed to this thread...

[Aileron]

I guess that after many centuries of turks under bizantine rule and the many wars and exchanges between turks and slavs and considering the base of indoeuropeans that inhabited turkey in the past, that all would explain that there exist types like you. If I saw you in the street I would say that you are from Poland or some mix of Eastern Europe + Baltid.

By the way, what do you think about islam growing in Europe? Do you support it? Do you understand how we Europeans hate what is happening? I ask you because you look basically European yet you are a turk and put "islam" in your profile, so I guess that you support what is going on in Europe with your religion. Not that I really care but just to see if the most European looking turks also support our destruction and that you feel closer to a mulatto moroccoan than to a slavic christian.

I am a muslim and try to obey its indications but that doesnt mean i support the current political views of our goverment or whatever happens in Europea.
you shouldnt call people with offensive words such as mulatto etc..
And finally i feel closer to all human beings...

[porpozontokonto]

You look like a typical Crimean Tatar.

[Aileron]

Thanks for feedbacks,,,

[Ylla]

Honestly you can pass in many places. you look Turkish (turanid is visible) but I agree with Moje Ime you also look western european in a way. North pontid + turanid maybe?

[Nomansman]

I feel like you can pass easily in England. TBH, im not sure if you can pass in Denmark(apart from the one pic where youre smiling in white shirt)

[Aileron]

Honestly you can pass in many places. you look Turkish (turanid is visible) but I agree with Moje Ime you also look western european in a way. North pontid + turanid maybe?

Thanks for the answer agree that my Turanid is visible for the other component i have received Nordid or North Pontid

[NPKTO]

You look White Euro to me. Maybe North Pontid with slight Turanid tilt. You don’t look Med to me.

[lameduck]

lol you look white like german/british white , but also have turanid infleunce, never seen such unique phenotype

I would say atlanto turanid

[MustafaTekin]

No

You can pass in bosna,ukraine and hungary.

[Aileron]

No

You can pass in bosna,ukraine and hungary.

Dostum yanlış başlık oldu heralde

[Samnium]

Turks on average score more steppe ancestry than Spaniards, so its not uncommon

No.

Only Basques maybe, but no way Turks from Turkey score more Steppe than Galicians or Catalonians :laugh:

[Duffmannn]

How common is your pheno in Turkey?

I mean, real blondes in Turkey must be something like 1% (even less) of the total population.

With nordic traits (most mediterranean blondes have mediterranean features) it´s even less common.

Does the people comment you on that?

[Aileron]

How common is your pheno in Turkey?

I mean, real blondes in Turkey must be something like 1% (even less) of the total population.

With nordic traits (most mediterranean blondes have mediterranean features) it´s even less common.

Does the people comment you on that?
Noone guess me as a foreigner or questions my Turkishness so i found the reactions here really funny lol
İ have clear Turanid component though

[Aileron]

No.

Only Basques maybe, but no way Turks from Turkey score more Steppe than Galicians or Catalonians :laugh:

How come Spaniards have any steppe ancestry when they dont have any connection to it?

[Duffmannn]

Noone guess me as a foreigner or questions my Turkishness so i found the reactions here really funny lol
İ have clear Turanid component though

I have known many turks in Vienna, and no one seamed like you (not even near)

There are mediterranean types, are even common, in many varieties (Gracile-Med, Pontid-Med, Turanid-Med, Gracile Med), but your pheno is not only rare in Turkey, but in all the mediterranean basin and a bit northern.

I obviously know you are not confused for a foreigner (the turanic-turk element is strong in you, I commented it before), I wasn´t asking about it.

I just was asking if the people comments on you about your blondness or your nordic features, not if you are confused by a foreigner.

[Aileron]

I have known many turks in Vienna, and no one seamed like you (not even near)

There are mediterranean types, are even common, in many varieties (Gracile-Med, Pontid-Med, Turanid-Med, Gracile Med), but your pheno is not only rare in Turkey, but in all the mediterranean basin and a bit northern.

I obviously know you are not confused for a foreigner (the turanic-turk element is strong in you, I commented it before), I wasn´t asking about it.

I just was asking if the people comments on you about your blondness or your nordic features, not if you are confused by a foreigner.

Again nope, people dont know what Nordic is in here lol
Plus many Balkan Turks and some Tatar descent people look more Euro than me
You are from Mexico?

[Duffmannn]

Again nope, people dont know what Nordic is in here lol
Plus many Balkan Turks and some Tatar descent people look more Euro than me
You are from Mexico?

I´m from Spain, but lived in Mexico.

[Aileron]

I´m from Spain, but lived in Mexico.

Can i pass in Spain?

[Duffmannn]

Can i pass in Spain?

No, I mentioned before on this thread where you can pass"

[Duffmannn]

Paradoxically you could pass in Mexico as "güero de rancho"

It´s rural people, mostly mixed tending to the spanish side (mainly castizos and in a minor extense harnizos, from 65% to 85% spanish blood, and the rest amerindian), with light features, but poor ones.

In México "güero" means light person (mexican standard) and "rancho" is an agrarial explotation.

Usually the güeros belong to the higher and richest classes, mostly urban, while the "people of rancho" is poor, being from rancho it´s a derogatory term.

The ligth features plus a tiny amerindian touch, can produce phenos like yours, but so light and nordic are uncommon, but not inexistant.

Do you know this man? Canelo Álvarez


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Sa%C3%BAl_%C3%81lvarez.png

https://laopinionla.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/gettyimages-1146781675.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=940

The castizos most times resemble like a kind of turkish-middle eastern (other times tend more to spaniard, other times just castizo)

[Aileron]

Paradoxically you could pass in Mexico as "güero de rancho"

It´s rural people, mostly mixed tending to the spanish side (mainly castizos and in a minor extense harnizos, from 65% to 85% spanish blood, and the rest amerindian), with light features, but poor ones.

In México "güero" means light person (mexican standard) and "rancho" is an agrarial explotation.

Usually the güeros belong to the higher and richest classes, mostly urban, while the "people of rancho" is poor, being from rancho it´s a derogatory term.

The ligth features plus a tiny amerindian touch, can produce phenos like yours, but so light and nordic are uncommon, but not inexistant.

Do you know this man? Canelo Álvarez


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Sa%C3%BAl_%C3%81lvarez.png

https://laopinionla.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/gettyimages-1146781675.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=940

The castizos most times resemble like a kind of turkish-middle eastern (other times tend more to spaniard, other times just castizo)

Yeah lol good point

[jmls]

North Pontid. You easily pass as European. You are only called Turanid because of nationality.

[Zeno]

North Pontid towards Nordid. There's something else also. In the thread about you passing in Greece, in terms of pigmentation you could (your hair colour is barely blond) but there's something off in terms of phenotype when it comes in our light Greeks.

[mashail]

you look Russian.

[Aileron]

Thanks

[Aileron]

North Pontid towards Nordid. There's something else also. In the thread about you passing in Greece, in terms of pigmentation you could (your hair colour is barely blond) but there's something off in terms of phenotype when it comes in our light Greeks.

Its Turanid:)

[Aileron]

more?

[TrevorXdX]

Blonde North Pontid

[Aileron]

Blonde North Pontid

Thanks friend

[gixajo]

You would be a very, very inusual Spanish.

So, no.

[Benyzero]

You would pass in hungary just fine. Your ancestors had to be mostly europeans carried away by ottomans lol

[Aileron]

You would pass in hungary just fine. Your ancestors had to be mostly europeans carried away by ottomans lol

Lol my family is Yörük, partly nomadic Turks just like Huns :)so i am genetically more Turkic than avarage Turk:)

[Benyzero]

Lol my family is Yörük, partly nomadic Turks just like Huns :)so i am genetically more Turkic than avarage Turk:)

Cool

[Benyzero]

Did you do any dna test?

[kalach]

You would pass in hungary just fine. Your ancestors had to be mostly europeans carried away by ottomans lol

Not Europeans, way earlier than Europeans. His phenotype is explainable by Huns defeating Aryans of Central Asia and raping/assimilating them. Yörüks stood pure Turkics compared to city dwelling Anatolian zombie mixes.

[Benyzero]

Not Europeans, way earlier than Europeans. His phenotype is explainable by Huns defeating Aryans of Central Asia and raping/assimilating them. Yörüks stood pure Turkics compared to city dwelling Anatolian zombie mixes.

So he would be the real turkic pheno? I know turks werent dark, but he clearly light. I 've read about sarmatians for example who where blonde steppe folks according to sources.

[kalach]

So he would be the real turkic pheno? I know turks werent dark, but he clearly light. I 've read about sarmatians for example who where blonde steppe folks according to sources.

You didn't read it well I guess. Real Turkics were mongolid. They met Aryan Central Asian people defeated, assimilated and mixed with them. There is a Turkish oral legend about it Oghuz Khan's Legend. He always invaded west of today's Mongolia, subjugated and assimilated defeated nations. His pheno is not a common Turkic one, but explainable without muh European admixture. He is yörük which means his forefathers stood purely Turkic.

[Benyzero]

You didn't read it well I guess. Real Turkics were mongolid. They met Aryan Central Asian people defeated, assimilated and mixed with them. There is a Turkish oral legend about it Oghuz Khan's Legend. He always invaded west of today's Mongolia, subjugated and assimilated defeated nations. His pheno is not a common Turkic one, but explainable without muh European admixture. He is yörük which means his forefathers stood purely Turkic.

Its okay. :D I was just making a joke. He certainly not a very outlier because you can find light individulals, but not the standard obviously.

[Benyzero]

Hes dna test would show more likely 80%+ West asian probably.

[Aileron]

thanks for the answers

[Rumata]

I don't remember Tatars with this look. If I didn't know it's Turkey, I'd guess Hungary.

[Joso]

Brunn mostly

[Aileron]

Thanks

[Borat]

Turanid, would not pass as ancient Anatolian

[Aileron]

Turanid, would not pass as ancient Anatolian

thanks

[Immanenz]

where are the pics?