Pakistan Swat Saidu Sharif Buddhist monastery 400-200BCE samples

[lameduck]

Swat is ancient center of learning and cilvilization

some sculptures

https://www.buddhistdoor.net/upload/file/20160513/9360/442464f3e57a151981ce8e8caaac568a_350__2.jpg

modern day avatars

i am using gujjars of swat for representation (as they are closest to pak punjab agricultural tribes) , otherwise it is shared heritage of all the groups in the region , also difference is mainly ASI levels with yousafzais having less ASI , major signal is mostly similar(Gedrosia+steppe+MEd)


https://scontent.fham6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11049651_356245637918861_5048129158244378354_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQkK_Oycwr_NxviGctctRqnlPdppmcXiCQLoqLwxzTH acnOcGlRbJhXExVj_2dk9mRa7wJ1kWNmegC6FIIKGM1iI&_nc_ht=scontent.fham6-1.fna&oh=2877e77c2af2aa013c4a4fad41b167f9&oe=5EAD04AA
https://scontent.fham6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11193366_369504013259690_5922553278374197561_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQlZ4vTYnaOA9kQC1WhhvN9zybVQJb-Tq3t1jwzh8ioiTrRTVxziXkMiNiYxtMfh7WDCB8YG401eEBj0-dozLNaa&_nc_ht=scontent.fham6-1.fna&oh=bc1c81469d93d9814940c0db22cc1dea&oe=5EB1D934


modern day popultion is majority yousafzai pashtuns (who are latter arrivals) followed by gujjars and small dardic tribes like kohistanis

Most results very similar to agricultural tribes of pakistan Punjab

one guy has helle MED, other have more ASI akin to dalits of pak punjab


Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan C4a'b'c n/a (female) 400-200 BCE I7720

133330 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit LL4974372

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 38.81
2 S-Indian 29.52
3 Caucasian 14.06
4 NE-Euro 7.96
5 Siberian 2.15
6 W-African 1.64
7 SE-Asian 1.32
8 NE-Asian 1.22
9 American 1.08
10 Papuan 0.91
11 SW-Asian 0.84
12 Beringian 0.49

Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan M30d1 n/a (female) 400-200 BCE I7723


143298 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit CS7673672

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 36.87
2 S-Indian 31.14
3 Caucasian 13.87
4 NE-Euro 8.21
5 Siberian 1.97
6 American 1.89
7 SE-Asian 1.83
8 W-African 1.59
9 Beringian 0.77
10 SW-Asian 0.7
11 NE-Asian 0.66
12 Papuan 0.37
13 Pygmy 0.13

Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan 400-200 BCE I7722

GEDmatch ID: MY7006166

Y-DNA: R2-Y1379
mtDNA: U2b2

141319 SNPs used in this evaluation

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 56.72
2 Baloch 32.38
3 NE-Euro 3.52
4 W-African 1.74
5 NE-Asian 1.71
6 Beringian 1.05
7 Papuan 0.92
8 American 0.8
9 Siberian 0.66
10 SE-Asian 0.27
11 Pygmy 0.24

Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan H15a1a1 n/a (female) 361-203 BCE I6893

Kit QY9126724

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 31.25
2 S-Indian 28.17
3 NE-Euro 14.19
4 Caucasian 9.79
5 Mediterranean 9.33
6 W-African 1.96
7 American 1.81
8 Beringian 1.48
9 SE-Asian 1.26
10 Papuan 0.76

Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan 431-381 BCE I6891

141482 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit EZ4302767

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 41.25
2 S-Indian 29.41
3 Caucasian 16.06
4 NE-Euro 7.04
5 W-African 2.06
6 Siberian 1.56
7 American 1.08
8 Beringian 0.66
9 SE-Asian 0.38
10 Pygmy 0.29
11 Papuan 0.22

Saidu Sharif Swat Pakistan 406-353 BCE I7717

142336 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit EK4034524

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.71
2 S-Indian 34.4
3 Caucasian 12.82
4 NE-Euro 4.88
5 W-African 2.11
6 American 1.74
7 Beringian 0.97
8 NE-Asian 0.91
9 Papuan 0.65
10 SE-Asian 0.52
11 San 0.27
12 Siberian 0.02

Saidu Sharif R6b L1a 400-200 BCE I7721

Kit RM5745861

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.65
2 S-Indian 32.02
3 Caucasian 11.7
4 NE-Euro 7.84
5 NE-Asian 2.2
6 W-African 2.12
7 Papuan 1.04
8 American 1.01
9 Siberian 0.8
10 Beringian 0.63

Saidu Sharif I7719 BCE 200-400

137754 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit TT3289750

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.98
2 S-Indian 29.25
3 Caucasian 13.03
4 NE-Euro 11.24
5 Siberian 2.57
6 W-African 1.56
7 SW-Asian 1.22
8 Beringian 0.8
9 Papuan 0.77
10 NE-Asian 0.75
11 American 0.58
12 SE-Asian 0.13
13 Mediterranean 0.13

Pakistan Swat Saidu_Sharif_H I6896 361-202 calBCE

Component %
Baloch 36,40%
S-Indian 30,90%
Caucasian 13,00%
NE-Euro 10,51%
NE-Asian 1,77%
American 1,59%
SE-Asian 1,53%
W-African 1,52%
Mediterranean 0,75%
Siberian 0,72%
SW-Asian 0,68%
Papuan 0,28%
Beringian 0,21%
San 0,14%

Saidu Sharif Male K1b1a1+199 Q1b2 400-200 BCE I7718

Component %
Baloch 39,05%
S-Indian 25,59%
Caucasian 16,09%
NE-Euro 9,39%
W-African 2,60%
American 2,41%
Papuan 1,67%
Beringian 1,67%
Siberian 0,89%
SE-Asian 0,28%
NE-Asian 0,24%
SW-Asian 0,12%

Saidu Sharif I2954 403-360 calBCE

1022 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit YM7942267

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 30.32
2 S-Indian 23.2
3 Baloch 21.03
4 American 8.56
5 Caucasian 5.94
6 Mediterranean 5.04
7 Papuan 3.41
8 Pygmy 2.49

Saidu Sharif M30 n/a (female) 400-200 BCE I6894

Component %
Baloch 37,48%
S-Indian 30,89%
Caucasian 15,09%
NE-Euro 8,08%
Siberian 1,92%
W-African 1,68%
Papuan 1,36%
SW-Asian 1,31%
Beringian 0,70%
American 0,63%
NE-Asian 0,62%
San 0,22%
Mediterranean 0,02%
E-African 0,01%

Aligrama_H Swat I8218 n/a (female) 50 calBCE - 52 calCE

164095 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AE4530931

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.72
2 S-Indian 28.42
3 Caucasian 15.28
4 NE-Euro 9.96
5 W-African 1.72
6 NE-Asian 1.6
7 Beringian 1.26
8 American 1.23
9 Siberian 1.18
10 SW-Asian 0.84
11 Papuan 0.74
12 San 0.04

Aligrama_H Swat HV6 R2a3a2b2b1 356-121 calBCE I8245

132443 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit PH6079270

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 40.35
2 Baloch 35.93
3 NE-Euro 8.87
4 Caucasian 7.56
5 SW-Asian 1.57
6 Siberian 1.38
7 W-African 1.3
8 Papuan 0.79
9 American 0.67
10 NE-Asian 0.61
11 Beringian 0.54
12 San 0.27
13 E-African 0.13
14 Pygmy 0.03
15 SE-Asian 0.01

Aligrama Swat L1a 756-430 calBCE I8220

147791 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AG2194996

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.19
2 S-Indian 29.49
3 Caucasian 17.71
4 NE-Euro 3.76
5 Siberian 1.85
6 NE-Asian 1.69
7 W-African 1.45
8 SW-Asian 1
9 Beringian 0.66
10 American 0.64
11 Papuan 0.48
12 Pygmy 0.48
13 SE-Asian 0.44
14 San 0.15

Pakistan Swat Butkara_H U2a J1 41 calBCE - 57 calCE I6550

Component
Baloch 43.15
S-Indian 33.71
Caucasian 12.53
NE-Euro 2.91
American 1.99
Siberian 1.80
W-African 1.57
Beringian 0.66
NE-Asian 0.65
Pygmy 0.65
Papuan 0.34
SE-Asian 0.04

Pakistan Swat Butkara_H I6552 M30 n/a (female) 200-0 BCE [mother of directly dated I6549 at 167-46 calBCE)

Component %
Baloch 40,29%
S-Indian 35,76%
Caucasian 10,30%
NE-Euro 7,84%
W-African 1,41%
Papuan 1,30%
American 1,06%
NE-Asian 0,86%
SW-Asian 0,84%
SE-Asian 0,33%
Mediterranean 0,01%

Pakistan Swat Butkara H+n/a (female) 200 BCE - 100 CE I6551

Component %
Baloch 41,01%
S-Indian 33,51%
Caucasian 13,18%
NE-Euro 4,73%
NE-Asian 2,92%
Siberian 1,77%
American 1,22%
W-African 1,12%
SW-Asian 0,28%
Beringian 0,18%
SE-Asian 0,07%
E-African 0,01%

Pakistan Swat Butkara U8b1a1 n/a (female) 200 BCE - 100 CE I6547

Component %
Baloch 38,68%
S-Indian 34,12%
Caucasian 13,55%
NE-Euro 5,34%
Beringian 2,61%
NE-Asian 1,86%
E-African 1,36%
SW-Asian 1,09%
W-African 0,95%
SE-Asian 0,44%
San 0,01%


Aligrama_H Swat I8218 n/a (female) 50 calBCE - 52 calCE

164095 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AE4530931

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.72
2 S-Indian 28.42
3 Caucasian 15.28
4 NE-Euro 9.96
5 W-African 1.72
6 NE-Asian 1.6
7 Beringian 1.26
8 American 1.23
9 Siberian 1.18
10 SW-Asian 0.84
11 Papuan 0.74
12 San 0.04

Aligrama_H Swat HV6 R2a3a2b2b1 356-121 calBCE I8245

132443 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit PH6079270

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 40.35
2 Baloch 35.93
3 NE-Euro 8.87
4 Caucasian 7.56
5 SW-Asian 1.57
6 Siberian 1.38
7 W-African 1.3
8 Papuan 0.79
9 American 0.67
10 NE-Asian 0.61
11 Beringian 0.54
12 San 0.27
13 E-African 0.13
14 Pygmy 0.03
15 SE-Asian 0.01

Aligrama Swat L1a 756-430 calBCE I8220

147791 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AG2194996

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.19
2 S-Indian 29.49
3 Caucasian 17.71
4 NE-Euro 3.76
5 Siberian 1.85
6 NE-Asian 1.69
7 W-African 1.45
8 SW-Asian 1
9 Beringian 0.66
10 American 0.64
11 Papuan 0.48
12 Pygmy 0.48
13 SE-Asian 0.44
14 San 0.15

Aligrama_H Swat I8218 n/a (female) 50 calBCE - 52 calCE

164095 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AE4530931

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 37.72
2 S-Indian 28.42
3 Caucasian 15.28
4 NE-Euro 9.96
5 W-African 1.72
6 NE-Asian 1.6
7 Beringian 1.26
8 American 1.23
9 Siberian 1.18
10 SW-Asian 0.84
11 Papuan 0.74
12 San 0.04

Aligrama_H Swat HV6 R2a3a2b2b1 356-121 calBCE I8245

132443 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit PH6079270

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 S-Indian 40.35
2 Baloch 35.93
3 NE-Euro 8.87
4 Caucasian 7.56
5 SW-Asian 1.57
6 Siberian 1.38
7 W-African 1.3
8 Papuan 0.79
9 American 0.67
10 NE-Asian 0.61
11 Beringian 0.54
12 San 0.27
13 E-African 0.13
14 Pygmy 0.03
15 SE-Asian 0.01

Aligrama Swat L1a 756-430 calBCE I8220

147791 SNPs used in this evaluation

Kit AG2194996

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 40.19
2 S-Indian 29.49
3 Caucasian 17.71
4 NE-Euro 3.76
5 Siberian 1.85
6 NE-Asian 1.69
7 W-African 1.45
8 SW-Asian 1
9 Beringian 0.66
10 American 0.64
11 Papuan 0.48
12 Pygmy 0.48
13 SE-Asian 0.44
14 San 0.15

[Nomansman]

Pretty typical to swat gujjars and big affinity between many of these samples and northern pashtuns/kalashis

Many pashtuns from swat can easily get up to 23% SI and some even 25% without being mixed

[Bandesha]

Modern population living there have nothing to do with it, mostly look like kambojas, arains samples, kamboja kingdom literally existed in gandhara

[lameduck]

Modern population living there have nothing to do with it, mostly look like kambojas, arains samples, kamboja kingdom literally existed in gandhara

is it true that dalit population of pak punjab was much lower, before british brought menial castes from gangatic plaians during shortage of lobourers during canal construction in 1800s?

[Bandesha]

is it true that dalit population of pak punjab was much lower, before british brought menial castes from gangatic plaians during shortage of lobourers during canal construction in 1800s?

No

[Bandesha]

Pretty typical to swat gujjars and big affinity between many of these samples and northern pashtuns/kalashis

Many pashtuns from swat can easily get up to 23% SI and some even 25% without being mixed

Many yousufzais look like gujjars and many gujjars look like pathans like malala yousufzais father doesn't look typical pathan to me , This pashtunization happend in last 700 to 1000 years when hords of gujjars came from gujrat/rajhastan india after defeats from muslim rulers, and later same mulsim rulers set them up strongly in potohar and further nd in last thousand years they are living here so heavily mixed with real native populations and have intermixed identities with native population

This gujjar is saying last wali e swat was gujjar and pathans are fighting with him and saying he was yousfzai , so most like many yousfzais have intermixed identity now in modern times


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1oIEnN-1O0


gojiri is not dardic language but a Rajasthani/Marwari language

[Zoro]

I believe there’s genetic continuity in the Swat area from the Iron Age. I think those Saidu Sharif IA and related people live today inside Yusufzai Pashtuns, Gujjars and other area people. Whether the original Yusufzais that brought Islam into the area were genetically more western is irrelevant. They mixed with the local Gandharans they subdued. Even the Pashto kanguage is not 100% Indo-Iranian. I believe there is still alot of Gandharan loan words. These ancient civilizations of the area make the common thread that ties together the Pakistani Pashtuns and peoples of Punjab

FWIW

[lameduck]

I believe there’s genetic continuity in the Swat area from the Iron Age. I think those Saidu Sharif IA and related people live today inside Yusufzai Pashtuns, Gujjars and other area people. Whether the original Yusufzais that brought Islam into the area were genetically more western is irrelevant. They mixed with the local Gandharans they subdued. Even the Pashto kanguage is not 100% Indo-Iranian. I believe there is still alot of Gandharan loan words. These ancient civilizations of the area make the common thread that ties together the Pakistani Pashtuns and peoples of Punjab

FWIW

All pakistani groups are related in the sense bulk of there population is on a cline and their main genetic component is indo iranian great diversity you see in Pakistan is because of variation in ASI levels.

[Zoro]

All pakistani groups are related in the sense bulk of there population is on a cline and their main genetic component is indo iranian great diversity you see in Pakistan is because of variation in ASI levels.


True but the genetic connection of Pashtuns (especially eastern) and other Pakistani groups (excluding Baloch) to us western Iranics is more ancient. Now Western and Southern Oashtuns may have gotten a little geneflow from us more recently such as via Baloch or who knows via the Kurds that migrated east 500 or 800 years ago although I think it would be minimal. Also the difference between Pashto and W. Iranian languages including Balochi is big enough to indicate any common ancestor would be very old.

Interestingly some of us Kurds show a small ASI signal or for example I show Mauriyan percent in Mytrueancestry.com but the source is mystery

[Kamal900]

They seem to have more neolithic Iranian ancestry than steppe ancestry from Eastern Europe, and they look like more closer to Iranians than anything.

[lameduck]

I12138 Swat Protohistoric Grave, 1000-800 BCE, mtDNA: T1a1:



Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baloch 38.48
2 NE-Euro 20
3 Caucasian 16.65
4 S-Indian 13.14
5 American 2.62
6 Mediterranean 2.53
7 Siberian 1.87
8 SW-Asian 1.75
9 W-African 1.42
10 Papuan 1.01
11 Beringian 0.43
12 San 0.1



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 pashtun (harappa) 11.49
2 tajik (yunusbayev) 12.57
3 pathan (hgdp) 12.77
4 kalash (hgdp) 12.97
5 haryana-jatt (harappa) 14.22
6 bhatia (harappa) 15.53
7 burusho (hgdp) 15.88
8 punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) 16.39
9 sindhi (harappa) 16.51
10 punjabi-khatri (harappa) 16.87
11 kashmiri (harappa) 18.82
12 punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) 19.93
13 kashmiri-pandit (reich) 20.72
14 sindhi (hgdp) 21.43
15 punjabi-arain (xing) 21.44
16 punjabi (harappa) 21.61
17 punjabi-brahmin (harappa) 21.64
18 singapore-indian-c (sgvp) 22.12
19 balochi (hgdp) 22.33
20 turkmen (yunusbayev) 22.75

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% kalash (hgdp) + 19.6% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 5.34
2 80.5% kalash (hgdp) + 19.5% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 5.37
3 81.9% kalash (hgdp) + 18.1% belorussian (behar) @ 5.43
4 81.5% kalash (hgdp) + 18.5% russian (hgdp) @ 5.45
5 83.2% kalash (hgdp) + 16.8% lithuanian (behar) @ 5.51
6 81.8% kalash (hgdp) + 18.2% russian (behar) @ 5.6
7 79.8% kalash (hgdp) + 20.2% slovenian (xing) @ 5.8
8 79.6% kalash (hgdp) + 20.4% hungarian (behar) @ 5.87
9 85.3% kalash (hgdp) + 14.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 6.09
10 81.2% kalash (hgdp) + 18.8% n-european (xing) @ 6.14
11 81.3% kalash (hgdp) + 18.7% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 6.18
12 79.3% kalash (hgdp) + 20.7% chuvash (behar) @ 6.3
13 81.8% kalash (hgdp) + 18.2% orcadian (hgdp) @ 6.35
14 81.4% kalash (hgdp) + 18.6% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 6.38
15 81.7% kalash (hgdp) + 18.3% british (1000genomes) @ 6.48
16 54.2% tajik (yunusbayev) + 45.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 6.93
17 81.9% pathan (hgdp) + 18.1% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 6.96
18 82% pathan (hgdp) + 18% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 7
19 83.2% pathan (hgdp) + 16.8% russian (behar) @ 7.08
20 83.3% pathan (hgdp) + 16.7% belorussian (behar) @ 7.12

[lameduck]

anyways for female representation , I will use students from rawalpinid

http://www.pakstudy.com/images/Edu_Pic-09/female%20Government%20Postgraduate%20College%20for %20Women%20Satellite%20Town%20Rawalpindi.jpg
https://i.dawn.com/primary/2018/08/5b7a891de7435.jpg
https://scontent.fham6-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/p640x640/54114874_2029202967133143_2825131420320530432_o.jp g?_nc_cat=106&_nc_oc=AQkTOFXfkPAvdC8-8urYyiaU5syTLjPWGvXVV-l48r5WMzKwH0UyCoVfZTFRyFjtU2g&_nc_ht=scontent.fham6-1.fna&_nc_tp=6&oh=c751a91bb8e5b978d40f5de140ef47c5&oe=5EC9B0AB

[NPKTO]

I assume some fraction of ancient Swat folks looked like modern day Pashtuns, Kalash, Kho, Hunza/Gilgit People as well. Particularly those that score like the recent sample you posted? Or maybe phenotype is just recent thing.

[tipirneni]

I a closest to i8245 Aligrama_H at 1.4 on Myta. Also share big segments from Saidu-Sharif samples showing some recent inflow.

using Gedrosia k12 i8245 Aligrama shows

2 BALOCHI 24.54
3 CAUCASUS 12.38
5 INDO_TIBETAN 3.84
6 E_SIBERIAN 1.66
SW_ASIAN 0.94
SE_ASIAN 0.52

1 51.7% UP_Kol + 48.3% Kurds_SE @ 2.94


compared to mine

2 BALOCHI 25.25
3 CAUCASUS 6.93
4 INDO_TIBETAN 4.46
5 W_SIBERIAN 1.82
6 SE_ASIAN 1.34

82.8% UP_Kol + 17.2% Brahui @ 4.45