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[Bosniensis]

https://i.imgur.com/oF7MXEX.png

[Ford]

https://i.imgur.com/iIOGXSp.png

[Bosniensis]

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/iIOGXSp.png[/IG]

That is basically Kievan Rus.

[Dušan]

https://i.imgur.com/meOsDBf.jpg

[Dick]

My Father’s. I’ll need to upload mine again



https://i.imgur.com/bWx2tvu.jpg

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yydfCDD/111.png

[Vid Flumina]

https://i.imgur.com/78JDyOK.png

[Bosniensis]

[img]https://i.imgur.com/78JDyOK.png[/ig]

That is basically 100% Roman.

It is wrong to separate Gauls, Illyrians and Thracians from Roman component, for they have been part of Roman world since beginning in various forms.

[Dick]

https://i.imgur.com/oF7MXEX.png

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i_jr18i-Hws/hqdefault.jpg

[Bosniensis]

[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i_jr18i-Hws/hqdefault.jpg[/ig]

I am happy only for a reason that Serbian DNK project prediction about my origin (Dalmatian/Herzegovian Vlachs) is probably true.

[Celestia]

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94300&d=1578164947

[Vid Flumina]

That is basically 100% Roman.

It is wrong to separate Gauls, Illyrians and Thracians from Roman component, for they have been part of Roman world since beginning in various forms.

You have a point - as always. My G25 distance map:

https://i.imgur.com/3zJS7xC.png

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/51/48/7a/51487a776aaa90f20a2c6763d5d2d794.jpg

[Adamm]

https://i.imgur.com/etNRQJj.png

[Kaspias]

https://i.ibb.co/9HzDRg4/Ads-z.png

[ksha]

https://i.ibb.co/y6M0m0N/screenshot-mytrueancestry-com-2020-01-04-20-28-46.png (https://ibb.co/7nTvxvS)

https://i.ibb.co/3WxvFxC/scrmytrancest.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[Bosniensis]

Post your Ancient Components:

1. Romans 21,2%
2. Scythians 17.3%
3. Sarmatians 11.4%
4. Franks 10%
5. Roman Hispania 8.42%
6. Gauls 6.61%
7. Illyrians 5.91%
8. Galo-Romans 5,56%
9. Visigoths 4.38%
10. Vikings 4.25%
11. Avars 3.89%


So Romans
=========
Romans 21.2%
Roman Hispania 8.42%
Gauls 6.61%
Illyrians 5.91%
Galo-Romans 5.56%
=========
47,7%


Huns (Turko-Slavs) Attila etc...
=====
Scythians 17,3%
Sarmatians 11.4%
Franks (allies of Huns) 10%
Visigoths 4.38%
Vikings 4.25%
Avars 3.89%
======
51.22%


So mix of Romans and Huns.

[Coastal Elite]

Me

https://i.imgur.com/kst45cQ.jpg

Sister

https://i.imgur.com/EEW2aJA.jpg

Mom

https://i.imgur.com/bcyJYtc.jpg

[Erronkari]

https://i.imgur.com/1WCuQxh.png



Your closest Ancient populations...
Iberian
The Iberians were a non-Celtic group of people associated with the southern and eastern coasts of the Iberian peninsula in the first milennium BC. Due to their military skills, Iberian soldiers were frequently involved in conflicts in Italy, Greece and Sicily. They lived in villages and fortified settlements called oppida based on a tribal organization with knowledge of metalworking, writing, bronze working and agricultural techniques. Preceeding Roman conquests in the region, Iberian settlements grew in complexity due to contacts with Phoenicians, Greeks and Carthageinians. They traded extensively with other cultures in the Medieterranean where Iberian pottery and metalwork has been found in France, Italy and North Africa. The Iberians also had close contact with Phoenicians who had established colonies in southern Andalusia. In the First Punic war between Rome and Carthage, Hamilcar Barca began his conquest in Iberia making the IBerian theater the key battleground between these powers. Many Iberian and Celtiberian warriors fought for one side or the other, though most tribes sided with Carthage. After Carthage's ultimate defeat, the Iberian territories were divided into Hispania Ulterior and Hispania Citerior. An Iberian revolt in 197 BC against Rome was crushed, but was the beginning of a long drawn out campaign for the conquest of Lustiania to the west

[Kaspias]

Romans 28%
Hellenic Roman 20.2%
Ancient Greeks 8.9%
Roman Hispania 8.46%
Sarmatians 7.52%
Seleucid 6.54%
Scythians 5.65%
Hittites 4.86%
Illyrians 3.65%
Pontic 3.03%
Ottomans 3.03%


What is their problem with these names, they are deceiving people by writing such names. I wanted from them to correct it but they seem like having fun with it.

Seleucid is actually mainland Greek. Avar is actually early Slav. Kalehöyük is not Hittite. Pontic is not Pontic. Hellenic Roman is not Hellenic but Roman

MyFakeAncestry

[Thracian]

1- 30.3% Romans
2- 19.1% Hellenic Romans
3- 9.05% Roman Hispania
4- 8.33% Ancient Greeks
5- 6.05% Scythians
6- 5.61% Franks
7- 5.54% Sarmatians
8- 4.17% Illyrians
9- 4.05% Seleucid Emp.
10- 4.05% Gallo-Romans
11- 3.17% Gauls

[Rgvgjhvv]

Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.586)
Seleucid + Roman (7.396)
Hellenic Roman (11.69)
Roman (12.12)
Ancient Greek (14.56)
Seleucid (16.13)
Pontic (16.41)

[Hithaeglir]

Can you upload 23&me results or it's a separate test?

[Dušan]

Strange. I never got Scandinavia in any calculator, and here Swedish and Danish Vikings...


22.4% Schytians
12.2% Sarmatians
10.9% Romans
10.5% Franks
8.52% Swedish Vikings
6.5% Gauls
6.26% Danish Vikings
5.79% Avars
5.66% Gallo-Romans
5.61% Illyrians
5.41% Longobards

https://i.imgur.com/XogEt83.jpg

[Bosniensis]

Romans 28%
Hellenic Roman 20.2%
Ancient Greeks 8.9%
Roman Hispania 8.46%
Sarmatians 7.52%
Seleucid 6.54%
Scythians 5.65%
Hittites 4.86%
Illyrians 3.65%
Pontic 3.03%
Ottomans 3.03%


What is their problem with these names, they are deceiving people by writing such names. I wanted from them to correct it but they seem like having fun with it.

Seleucid is actually mainland Greek. Avar is actually early Slav. Kalehöyük is not Hittite. Pontic is not Pontic. Hellenic Roman is not Hellenic but Roman

MyFakeAncestry

While Seleucids are Hellenic, the sample from Seleucea isn't Macedonian, it's Isaurian sample.

Isaurians are native anatolians mixed people who lived in Macedonian conquered newly named "Seleucea" province.

Isaurian marauders were fiercely independent mountain people who created havoc in neighboring districts under Macedonian and Roman occupations.

[Dick]

Can you upload 23&me results or it's a separate test?

You can upload your raw data

[Bosniensis]

Can you upload 23&me results or it's a separate test?

If you buy advanced premium account you can upload multiple tests. But the best way (cheaper) is to create two separate accounts.

[Kaspias]

While Seleucids are Hellenic, the sample from Seleucea isn't Macedonian, it's Isaurian sample.

Isaurians are native anatolians mixed people who lived in Macedonian conquered newly named "Seleucea" province.

Isaurian marauders were fiercely independent mountain people who created havoc in neighboring districts under Macedonian and Roman occupations.

Despite this sample is from the Seleucid period, person is an outlier with normal mainlander results.

[Hrvoje Vukčić Hrvatinić]

https://i.imgur.com/zd6CADw.png

[Dušan]

MyFakeAncestry

+1

[Thracian]

Oracles

https://i.ibb.co/7v3qfzn/nta.png

[Bosniensis]

Modern pop

1. Bosnian (5.277)
2. Macedonian (6.023) Alexandrata na Velikata
3. Romanian (6.400)
4. Bulgarian (7.473)
5. Serbian (7.512)
6. Moldavian (7.913)
7. Croatian (10.37)
8. Slovenian (10.75)

[Kyp]

My mother

https://i.imgur.com/Moe93Lj.jpg

Viking Danish + Gaul (2.736)
Gaul + Ostrogoth (3.326)
Frank (7.197)
Viking Danish (8.95)
Visigoth (10.19)
Gaul (10.56)
Ostrogoth (10.59)

[Hithaeglir]

Ta da!

Hellenic Roman + Roman (6.603)
Hellenic Roman + Thracian (8.055)
Roman (8.224)
Hellenic Roman (11.58)
Ancient Greek (13.98)
Thracian (15.13)
Roman Hispania (15.88)

[Hithaeglir]

Modern :

1. Greek_Thessaly (6.507)
2. Tuscan (10.47)
3. Italian_Abruzzo (11.92)
4. Greek (12.09)
5. Central_Greek (12.39)
6. Macedonian (12.63)
7. Kosovan (12.77)
8. East_Sicilian (13.04)

[PAGANE]

Seleucid + Scythian (5.739)
Seleucid + Gaul (7.388)
Gaul (15.04)
Seleucid (15.71)
Scythian (16.44)
Roman (16.58)
Thuringii (18.58)

[Cumansky]

Wogs=
Scythians 11.40%
Avars 8.72%
Sarmatians 8.27%
Kievan Rus 4.50%
Franks 3.11%
Ostrogoths 1.92%

= 37.92%

East Slavs=
Vikings (Swedish) 19.20%
Baltic Tribes 15.60%
Oeselians 14.20%
Longbards 8.60%
Danish Vikings 4.48%

= 62.08%

Similar: 61.6% Estonian + 38.4% Turks_Istanbul @ 4.5

[jingorex]

https://i.postimg.cc/jSYJXFTx/ancestor1.png

[CommonSense]

https://i.imgur.com/8npdjL4.png

[JamesBond007]

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/i_jr18i-Hws/hqdefault.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/jjZtTL5Q/myancestry.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/bw6qcZd0/celto-germanic.png

Germanic : 70.7%

Celtic : 29.3 %


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA4SmHS8JV8&list=OLAK5uy_lC3UfbC_o6rkNFR5GtbbMLEyWWsYmW0dU


https://previews.123rf.com/images/fujisl/fujisl1706/fujisl170600014/79517884-statue-of-cheruscan-arminius-in-the-teutoburg-forest-near-the-city-of-detmold-germany-.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Sack_of_Rome_by_the_Visigoths_on_24_August_410_by_ JN_Sylvestre_1890.jpg

https://www.historytoday.com/sites/default/files/articles/Cole_Thomas_The_Course_of_Empire_Destruction_1836. jpg

[JamesBond007]

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)


What do these numbers mean?
Genetic distance measures how close you are to a given modern population. Many modern populations are surprisingly close to another, which is often due to true common ancestry.

5 means you are close to this population
10 means you could fit into this population
15 means a related population

[Coastal Elite]

https://i.postimg.cc/jjZtTL5Q/myancestry.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/bw6qcZd0/celto-germanic.png

Germanic : 70.7%

Celtic : 29.3 %



Yours is kinda like my mom's but more swarthy Saxon. Obviously its best to be a Frank though.

https://i.imgur.com/bcyJYtc.jpg

[Rgvgjhvv]

1. Central_Greek (4.402)
2. Greek_Crete (6.335)
3. Greek (6.353)
4. East_Sicilian (6.356)
5. South_Italian (6.541)
6. Greek_Islands (6.921)
7. Italian_Abruzzo (7.477)
8. Ashkenazi (8.670)

[**JC**]

Germanic 80%
Celts 20%


Give or take a few % points.

[firemonkey]

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Screenshot_2020-01-05%20MyTrueAncestry%20com%20closest%20ancient.png


Celts 38.3
Danish Vikings 15.3
Viking Swedish 9.84
Saxons 8.4
Viking Icelandic 7.28
Longobards 7.21
Norwegian Vikings 5.47
Vandals 3.64
Franks 2.11
Alemanni 1.3
Visigoths 0.99

[PaleoEuropean]

Both my kits:

https://i.imgur.com/esglVO8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5mKTILz.jpg

[Coastal Elite]

Both my kits:

https://i.imgur.com/esglVO8.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5mKTILz.jpg

You have the top mix so far in IMO. Hard to beat a Celt-Frank-Viking combo

[firemonkey]

Father.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Screenshot_2020-01-05%20MyTrueAncestry%20com%20Dad%20ancient.png

Celts 33.9
Danish Vikings 12.4
Viking Swedish 9.51
Saxons 9.5
Longobards 9.41
Viking Icelandic 6.89
Norwegian Vikings 6.48
Vandals 4.69
Franks 3.98
Visigoths 1.62
Alemanni 1.5

[Coastal Elite]

Father.

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/labile/genealogy/Screenshot_2020-01-05%20MyTrueAncestry%20com%20Dad%20ancient.png

Celts 33.9
Danish Vikings 12.4
Viking Swedish 9.51
Saxons 9.5
Longobards 9.41
Viking Icelandic 6.89
Norwegian Vikings 6.48
Vandals 4.69
Franks 3.98
Visigoths 1.62
Alemanni 1.5

How close is he to Celts and Franks under Ancient Populations?

[Dick]

1. Central_Greek (4.402)
2. Greek_Crete (6.335)
3. Greek (6.353)
4. East_Sicilian (6.356)
5. South_Italian (6.541)
6. Greek_Islands (6.921)
7. Italian_Abruzzo (7.477)
8. Ashkenazi (8.670)

Hey we look similar except you play for Greece and I play for Polska

[Cumansky]

Anyone got Early Slav? My Mother kit Early Slav around 3-4%

[JamesBond007]

Yours is kinda like my mom's but more swarthy Saxon. Obviously its best to be a Frank though.

No, it is best to be a mix of Celtic+Norman (Frankish+viking) +Saxon which is my mix otherwise known as English or my mix. English master race checking in. I am probably somewhat more Celtic than the average English person but that is what makes me SouthWest English rather than SouthEast English. Are you speaking a Frankish d'oil language or rather the language of the master race : English ? ! English obviously ! :

Closest modern populations anything :

1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)


Celts (One of the first settlers of Britain) : 29.3%
Danish viking (Where England gets it's name from Angleland or Angland or England) : 12.3%
Viking Swedish : 11.5%
Longobards (Germanic Norman ruling class of Italy) : 11.4%
Saxons : (the Germanic tribe that gave Britain it's identify although England is named after Danish vikings) 10.6%
Norwegian Vikings : 7.7%
Icelandic Vikings : 6.37%
Franks : 4.61%
Vandals : 2.94%
Visigoths : 2.87%
Ostrogoths : 0.79 %

[Coastal Elite]

No, it is best to be a mix of Celtic+Norman (Frankish+viking) +Saxon which is my mix otherwise known as English or my mix. English master race checking in. I am probably somewhat more Celtic than the average English person but that is what makes me SouthWest English rather than SouthEast English. Are you speaking a Frankish d'oil language or rather the language of the master race : English ? ! English obviously ! :


1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)


Celts (One of the first settlers of Britain) : 29.3%
Danish viking (Where England gets it's name from Angleland or Angland or England) : 12.3%
Viking Swedish : 11.5%
Longobards (Germanic Norman ruling class of Italy) : 11.4%
Saxons : (the Germanic tribe that gave Britain it's identify although England is named after Danish vikings) 10.6%
Norwegian Vikings : 7.7%
Icelandic Vikings : 6.37%
Franks : 4.61%
Vandals : 2.94%
Visigoths : 2.87%
Ostrogoths : 0.79 %

Do me a favor and rank the top five best ancient populations on MyTrueAncestry. This is open to anyone who wants to rank. This should probably be its own thread.

[oszkar07]

23andme data



Your closest Ancient populations...
Frank + Avar (5.894)
Scythian + Ostrogoth (6.58)
Scythian (9.327)
Ostrogoth (11.38)
Frank (11.88)
Viking Danish (12.17)
Avar (14.36)

Outlier Samples


115. Hungary Vatya (1 AD) ..... 17.48 - Rise479 -
Top 97% match vs all users

152. Celtic-Sarmatian Outlier (300 BC) ..... 18.75 - MJ39 -
Top 99% match vs all users

169. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 19.23 - OBS137 - ?
Top 78% match vs all users

172. Avar (590 AD) ..... 19.27 - AV2 - ?
Top 92% match vs all users

177. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 19.6 - scy304 -
Top 94% match vs all users

modern populations


1. Austrian (6.601)
2. Czech (8.105)
3. East_German (8.184)
4. Hungarian (11.72)
5. South_Dutch (11.99)
6. North_German (12.53)
7. Croatian (12.96)
8. Southwest_Finnish (13.59)

Iron Age


1. Western-Scythian Black Sea (290 BC) ..... 9.327 - MJ34 -
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 10.41 - scy006 -
Top 92% match vs all users

10. Western Scythian Ukraine (580 BC) ..... 11.02 - MJ13 -
Top 97% match vs all users

12. Western-Scythian Outlier Black Sea (260 BC) ..... 11.06 - MJ46 -
Top 96% match vs all users

32. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 13.42 - scy010 -
Top 94% match vs all users

33. Western-Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 13.75 - MJ16 -
Top 94% match vs all users

37. Halstatt (775 BC) ..... 14.25 - DA112 -
Top 83% match vs all users

38. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) ..... 14.26 - scy009 -
Top 94% match vs all users

42. Western Scythian Hungary (550 BC) ..... 14.54 - DA191 -
Top 65% match vs all users

63. [Hidden] - upgrade to Zeus ..... 15.6 - MJ32 -
Top 98% match vs all users

[firemonkey]

How close is he to Celts and Franks under Ancient Populations?

Celt+ Frank 2.639
Celt 5.571
Frank 7.897

[Cumansky]

My Mother only Early Slav, Slavs is just linguistic they are small tribe in reality

[oszkar07]

Can you upload 23&me results or it's a separate test?

yes you can.

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

Ancient pops:
Viking Danish + Frank (4.126)
Ostrogoth + Frank (4.219)
Frank (6.53)
Viking Danish (7.105)
Celt (8.933)
Ostrogoth (9.111)
Saxon (9.417)

Breakdown:

Celts - 26.1%
Danish Vikings - 20%
Franks - 10.8%
Longboards - 8.91%
Vikings (Swedish) - 7.99%
Saxons - 6.91%
Scythians - 5.07%
Vikings (Icelandic) - 4.9%
Visigoths - 3.43%
Ostrogoths - 2.92%
Norwegian Vikings - 2.69%

[Cumansky]

In context of Mytrueancestry Avars is what? Is this proxy for medieval Bulgars, that is my assumption what else can it be

Don't tell me this Early Slav, what a BS, because there is another sample called "Early Slav" that is another sample. Belarusians are wogs look at Andrei Arlovski or any Belarusian if you don't know

And Bulgars state went from Volga-Steppe-Caucasus-Persia-Steppe-Crimea-Eastern Balkan-Western Balkan-Greece in middle ages

[Dick]

My Mother only Early Slav, Slavs is just linguistic they are small tribe in reality

Yes initially a small tribe with 2 major founder effects, R1a and I2

[Cumansky]

Yes initially a small tribe with 2 major founder effects, R1a and I2

In your dreams, your wogistani to the max, I2 is pan wogistani Hunters, Cheddar Man

[Mortimer]

Pure Roman. One single population and picture

https://i.postimg.cc/GpJcHptk/Roman-Hellenic-Roman.jpg

[Dick]

In your dreams, your wogistani to the max, I2 is pan wogistani Hunters, Cheddar Man

Make up your mind then, were Slavs is just linguistic or not

[paradox]

Closest Ancient populations
Romans, Hellenic Romans, Seleucid Empire, Pontic Empire

Seleucid + Roman (10.28)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (10.95)
Roman (13.81)
Hellenic Roman (15.29)
Seleucid (15.59)
Pontic (19.65)

Ancient sample breakdown
Romans 33.2
Hellenic Romans 19.7
Roman Hispania 9.82
Ancient Greeks 8.81
Minoans 5.35
Philistines 4.34
Hittites 4.21
Illyrians 3.85
Scynthians 3.83
Gallo-Romans 3.73
Seleucid Empire 3

Closest genetic modern populations...
1. Greek_Thessaly (6.575)
2. Greek (7.108)
3. Greek_Crete (8.764)
4. Ashkenazi (9.812)
5. Macedonian (10.07)
6. Bulgarian (10.08)
7. Central_Greek (10.66)
8. Kosovan (10.98)

[paradox]

My father's

Closest Ancient populations
Gauls, Romans, Thuringii, Franks, Gallo-Romans

Gaul + Roman (9.312)
Thuringii + Roman (9.696)
Gaul (12.68)
Roman (12.77)
Thuringii (15.79)
Frank (16.34)
Gallo-Roman (16.67)

Ancient sample breakdown
Romans 32.2
Roman Hispania 12
Franks 9.85
Scynthians 9.23
Gauls 7.54
Illyrians 6.99
Gallo-Romans 6.77
Hellenic Romans 5.6
Visigoths 3.83
Ancient Greeks 3.04
Celts 2.78

Closest genetic modern populations...
1. Romanian (4.380)
2. Bulgarian (5.357)
3. Macedonian (5.889)
4. Bosnian (6.002)
5. Serbian (6.623)
6. Kosovan (7.977)
7. Greek_Thessaly (11.90)
8. Greek (12.66)

[Cumansky]

Make up your mind then, were Slavs is just linguistic or not



"The early Slavs were a diverse group of tribes who lived in Eastern Europe between the 5th and 10th centuries and created the foundation of Slavic nations to come. The Byzantine historian Procopius of Caesarea described these people as tall and especially strong, with reddish auburn hair. He reported how they would fight on foot carrying shields and spears, preferring ambush and guerrilla tactics to open warfare. Byzantines would employ these Early Slavs as mercenaries. However, various nomadic horseback tribes such as the fierce Scythians, Sarmatians and Alans were on the Eurasian Steppes around the Black Sea and absorbed into the Slavic population over time. Such close contact with these societies transformed Slavs into very skilled horsemen. Use of cavalry enabled the Slavs to expand rapidly southwest into the Balkans, the Alps and northeast toward the Volga River. Typically these early Slavic nations were known to have lived in a democracy avoiding rule of any single chief. Settlements were not uniformly distributed, but rather found in clusters which were linked by familial or clan relationships. The first historical Slavic state was founded by Samo, followed by Bulgaria in 681 AD, followed by Great Moravia, Carantania, Pannonia, Croatia, Serbia and the Obotrites."

- MyTrueAncestry

[Cumansky]

Mother (3/4 Cossack Ukrainian 1/4 Jewish with 7% SSA in GEDmatch)

Baltic + Scythian (8.521)
Avar + Kievan Rus (11.05)
Kievan Rus (12.1)
Avar (12.5)
Scythian (15.59)
Early Slav (17.75)

Baltic Tribes 21.20%
Vikings (Swedish) 15.60%
Oeselians 12.80%
Scythians 10.80%
Avars 9.48%
Sarmatians 6.80%
Longbards 6.80%
Danish Vikings 5.22%
Kievan Rus 5.07%
Early Slavs 3.26%
Franks 2.97%

Father (South Polish)

Oeselian + Kievan Rus (5.976)
Oeselian + Scythian (6.967)
Avar (12.42)
Viking (12.91)
Kievan Rus (13.7)
Scythian (14.63)
Oeselian (15.82)

Vikings (Swedish) 22.90%
Oeselians 15.70%
Scythians 10.80%
Baltic Tribes 10.60%
Longbards 10.20%
Sarmatians 8.80%
Avars 7.04%
Danish Vikings 6.12%
Kievan Rus 3.28%
Visigoths 2.29%
Franks 2.27%

[Dušan]

I don't understand how I didn't get Early Slav and Kievan Rus in Ancient sample breakdown, but I got Danish and Swedish Viking???!

MyFakeAncestry.com

[Cumansky]

Cumansky

Vikings (Swedish) 19.20%
Baltic Tribes 15.60%
Oeselians 14.20%
Scythians 11.40%
Avars 8.72%
Longbards 8.60%
Sarmatians 8.27%
Kievan Rus 4.50%
Danish Vikings 4.48%
Franks 3.11%
Ostrogoths 1.92%

[Cumansky]

I don't understand how I didn't get Early Slav and Kievan Rus in Ancient sample breakdown, but I got Danish and Swedish Viking???!

MyFakeAncestry.com

Your real Slav, more than countrymen

[Bosniensis]

I don't understand how I didn't get Early Slav and Kievan Rus in Ancient sample breakdown, but I got Danish and Swedish Viking???!

MyFakeAncestry.com

Kievan Rus were Vikings

Oleg of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Kiev is actually called Helgi Roriksen and IS Viking

There is probably thin line between Vikings and Kievan Rus' so you were pulled to Vikings.

There is no mistake there.

[Adamm]

How can you copy paste your Ancient sample breakdown?

[Dušan]

Kievan Rus were Vikings

Oleg of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Kiev is actually called Helgi Roriksen and IS Viking

There is probably thin line between Vikings and Kievan Rus' so you were pulled to Vikings.

There is no mistake there.


Maybe thats the reason.
All I know that I never got Scandinavia in any calculator.

[Cumansky]

Kievan Rus were Vikings

Oleg of Novgorod, Grand Prince of Kiev is actually called Helgi Roriksen and IS Viking

There is probably thin line between Vikings and Kievan Rus' so you were pulled to Vikings.

There is no mistake there.

No Kievan Rus is modern Ukrainian genetically, very mixed Pan Slavic. This is distinct from the Early Tribes that make Slavic people, this sample was already after era

[Cumansky]

Roman is Italian or Italian Jewish keep it real, has nothing do with war Vlachs

[Cumansky]

Roman can be Albanian because they are Italian too

[Cumansky]

All same people that got mixed after

[Kyp]

Stupid question maybe:

So i've uploaded my kit, my mothers and my fathers.
My mother's matches are mainly Germanic/Celtic my father's are Iranian/Alans/Anatolian samples
How can it be that I only seem to match Roman and Balkan samples although I have almost no ancestry from there?
I get that these areas plot closest to me but matching them is something else...

How is a match defined by MyTrueAncestry?

https://i.imgur.com/CVg89ly.jpg

[oszkar07]

Oszkar's Armenian wife

Ancient Populations

Hittite + Safavid (10.19)
Safavid (11.67)
Hellenic Roman + Safavid (11.9)

Ancient Samples

1. Iron Age Urartu Hasanlu (900 BC) ..... 10.03 - F38 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Medieval Persia (1450 AD) ..... 11.67 - I1955 -
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Bronze Age Urartu (1100 BC) ..... 11.99 - I2327 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Canaanite Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 12.84 - R67 -
Top 99% match vs all users

5. Copper Age Iran (3800 BC) ..... 13.71 - I1665 -
Top 99% match vs all users

6. Canaanite Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 14.52 - R68 -
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Eneolithic Maykop Caucasus (3670 BC) ..... 16.15 - OSS001 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Copper Age Iran (4500 BC) ..... 16.31 - I1661 -
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9. Copper Age Iran (3900 BC) ..... 16.55 - I1674 -
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Armenia Bronze Age (3200 BC) ..... 16.81 - I658
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11. Copper Age Armenia (4000 BC) ..... 19.14 - I1631 -
Top 98% match vs all users

12. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 19.41 - R38 -
Top 98% match vs all users

13. Crusader Knight Mix / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 19.46 - SI-45 -
Top 98% match vs all users

14. Early-Alan Tajikistan (100 BC) ..... 21.25 - I12292 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

15. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 21.54 - R76 -
Top 94% match vs all users

16. Hittite Anatolia (1675 BC) ..... 21.71 - MA2200 -
Top 97% match vs all users

17. Pontic Greek (300 AD) ..... 22.01 - Ker1 -
Top 92% match vs all users

18. Bronze Age Anatolia (2050 BC) ..... 22.15 - I2683 -
Top 96% match vs all users

19. Hellenic Roman / Dodecanese (580 AD) ..... 22.57 - CL30 -
Top 92% match vs all users

20. Hittite Anatolia (1625 BC) ..... 23.31 - MA2205 -
Top 95% match vs all users

21. Roman Empire Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 23.47 - R128 -
Top 94% match vs all users

22. Hellenic Roman / Cretan (580 AD) ..... 23.56 - CL38 -
Top 92% match vs all users

23. Copper Age Anatolia (3800 BC) ..... 23.88 - I0184
Top 94% match vs all users

24. Early-Alan Mix Tajikistan (100 BC) ..... 23.98 - I12260 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

25. Bronze Age Armenia (1500 BC) ..... 24.08 - Rise397 -
Top 95% match vs all users

26. Crusader Knight Armenian / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 24.39 - SI-44 -
Top 99% match vs all users

27. Alan (250 AD) ..... 24.6 - DA162 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

28. Hellenic Roman / Calabria (580 AD) ..... 25.31 - CL25 - ?
Top 92% match vs all users

29. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 26.08 - QED-2 -
Top 94% match vs all users

30. Jarkutan Bactria-Margiana Uzbekistan (1950 BC) ..... 26.28 - I4901 - ?
Top 98% match vs all users

31. Armenia Bronze Age (1450 BC) ..... 26.34 - I1656 -
Top 99% match vs all users

32. Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC) ..... 26.39 - MA2198 - ?
Top 87% match vs all users

33. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 26.42 - R71 -
Top 94% match vs all users

34. Anatolian Roman Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 26.44 - R78 -
Top 94% match vs all users

35. Roman Outlier Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 26.46 - R1550 -
Top 93% match vs all users

36. Kura-Araxes Caspian Sea (2900 BC) ..... 26.89 - VEK009 - ?
Top 99% match vs all users

37. Anatolian Roman ANAS (200 AD) ..... 26.9 - R70 -
Top 94% match vs all users

38. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 26.97 - QED-7 -
Top 98% match vs all users

39. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 27.59 - R69 -
Top 90% match vs all users

40. Anatolian Roman Isola Sacra (200 AD) ..... 27.62 - R43 -
Top 93% match vs all users

41. Canaanite Rome Isola Sacra (70 AD) ..... 27.65 - R42 -
Top 97% match vs all users

42. Anatolia Bronze Age (1625 BC) ..... 27.79 - I2495 -
Top 94% match vs all users

43. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 27.85 - ERS1790730 -
Top 96% match vs all users

44. Hellenic Roman Necropolis MR (200 AD) ..... 27.97 - R1545 -
Top 91% match vs all users

45. Anatolian Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 28.21 - R130 -
Top 92% match vs all users

46. Canaanite Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 28.34 - R1547 -
Top 93% match vs all users

47. Anatolian Roman Casale del Dolce (288 AD) ..... 28.58 - R126 -
Top 92% match vs all users

48. Neolithic Iran (8000 BC) ..... 28.71 - AH2 -
Top 99% match vs all users

49. Hellenic Roman Empire VP (100 AD) ..... 28.95 - R115 -
Top 90% match vs all users

50. Roman Era Citizen / Lebanon (250 AD) ..... 29.16 - QED-9 -
Top 94% match vs all users

51. Canaanite (1600 BC) ..... 29.44 - ERS1790731 -
Top 94% match vs all users

52. Imperial Rome Isola Sacra (99 AD) ..... 29.59 - R39 -
Top 91% match vs all users

53. Medieval Alan Caucasus (1150 AD) ..... 29.69 - DA164
Top 97% match vs all users

54. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 29.73 - R114 -
Top 82% match vs all users

55. Hellenic Ottoman (1500 AD) ..... 30.13 - MA2196 -
Top 91% match vs all users

56. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 30.16 - R34 -
Top 88% match vs all users

57. Hittite Anatolia (1875 BC) ..... 30.39 - MA2206 -
Top 93% match vs all users

58. Caucasus Outlier Medieval Denmark (1250 AD) ..... 30.44 - G117 -
Top 97% match vs all users

59. Imperial Rome Viale Rossini (100 AD) ..... 30.49 - R75 -
Top 88% match vs all users

60. Ahskelon Canaanite (1200 BC) ..... 30.74 - ASH008_ASH_IA2 -
Top 97% match vs all users

Modern Populations


1. Armenian (4.818)
2. Georgian_Jewish (6.639)
3. Kurdish (9.596)
4. Assyrian (11.26)
5. Azeri (12.25)
6. Turkish (12.58)
7. Iranian (12.81)
8. Iranian_Jewish (16.64)

[paradox]

@Cumansky What are war Vlachs? I've never heard of them.

[paradox]

Stupid question maybe:

So i've uploaded my kit, my mothers and my fathers.
My mother's matches are mainly Germanic/Celtic my father's are Iranian/Alans/Anatolian samples
How can it be that I only seem to match Roman and Balkan samples although I have almost no ancestry from there?
I get that these areas plot closest to me but matching them is something else...

How is a match defined by MyTrueAncestry?

https://i.imgur.com/CVg89ly.jpg

It's not a stupid question. You are mixed so you will match the samples/ethnicities that are halfway points between both parents. Does that make sense? You won't necessarily have anything to do with those samples/ethnicities genetically.

[The Great Uniter]

It's not a stupid question. You are mixed so you will match the samples/ethnicities that are halfway points between both parents. Does that make sense? You won't necessarily have anything to do with those samples/ethnicities genetically.

Hello honey. You are half Aromanian, right? Do you plot with South Romanians?

[Kyp]

It's not a stupid question. You are mixed so you will match the samples/ethnicities that are halfway points between both parents. Does that make sense? You won't necessarily have anything to do with those samples/ethnicities genetically.

So this chart basically summarizes the closest samples? Okay yes that makes sense.

[paradox]

Hello honey. You are half Aromanian, right? Do you plot with South Romanians?

Hi, I knew you'd find me eventually :) What do you mean by plot? On a graph or on gedmatch? My mum is from Crete so I'm not going to get results like my father. I do get Romanian in my top 3 gedmatch results occasionally. They've screwed up some of the the samples they use on gedmatch though, they mixed them with gypsies. How could they not know the difference???????
I forgot to answer your first question. Yes I am half.

[RandomGuy20]

23 and me:

https://i.imgur.com/PombDDL.png

https://i.imgur.com/CPRpZzG.png

AncestryDNA:

https://i.imgur.com/fJ9EvgM.png

Mum:

https://i.imgur.com/R5ZWvw3.png

Grandma (North German):

https://i.imgur.com/FfXjkOb.png

[Moje ime]

Your closest Ancient populations...

Scythian + Gaul (8.799)
Scythian + Frank (10.04)
Gaul (11.19)
Scythian (11.92)
Frank (13.65)
Thuringii (14.7)
Visigoth (16.55)

https://i.imgur.com/ZoHDwRU.png

Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Serbian (6.395)
2. Romanian (6.808)
3. Bosnian (8.132)
4. Austrian (8.699)
5. Hungarian (9.397)
6. Bulgarian (9.872)
7. Croatian (10.28)
8. Moldavian (10.34)


https://i.imgur.com/fPXDPZU.png

https://i.imgur.com/qWJg7dQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/ojfmmm4.png

https://i.imgur.com/WcszbnW.png

https://i.imgur.com/F5wH8bX.png

https://i.imgur.com/lojDM8V.png


I lost 1550 BC sample, got 1270 AD and 1058 AD

[Freeroostah]

https://i.imgur.com/MugQ2mS.png

[Elias.99]

Ancient Greek + Canaanite / Semite (12.01)

[Elias.99]

Do they have sub saharan samples on the page?

[The Great Uniter]

Hi, I knew you'd find me eventually :) What do you mean by plot? On a graph or on gedmatch? My mum is from Crete so I'm not going to get results like my father. I do get Romanian in my top 3 gedmatch results occasionally. They've screwed up some of the the samples they use on gedmatch though, they mixed them with gypsies. How could they not know the difference???????
I forgot to answer your first question. Yes I am half.

I think it's on Gedmatch ;) I am not entirely sure though, I would ask Iron/Carpatz that he knows better. I don't know why they confused the results with gyppos, maybe you were actually mistaken by the designation "Roma" which gypsies use? Romanians and Aromanians are genetically unrelated to those. Did your father also did a DNA test? Notify me or link me what in truth he scored.

"Plot" is referring to the population you genetically tend to relate to it definitely has some geographical or location-related connotations as well, like the area you are closer too. It's your y dna from your father that interests me where he really plots to. :D

[TheOldNorth]

My mother

https://i.imgur.com/Moe93Lj.jpg

Viking Danish + Gaul (2.736)
Gaul + Ostrogoth (3.326)
Frank (7.197)
Viking Danish (8.95)
Visigoth (10.19)
Gaul (10.56)
Ostrogoth (10.59)

I wonder where the hell the Azerbaijani is here, like on mine, no trace of my quarter Jewish whatsoever

[TheOldNorth]

94329 mine
94330 mom's

[Kyp]

I wonder where the hell the Azerbaijani is here, like on mine, no trace of my quarter Jewish whatsoever

it's my mother results. She's full German.

[TheOldNorth]

it's my mother results. She's full German.

didn't see that, I'm being a retard right now
also do you know what the percents are?

[Kyp]

didn't see that, I'm being a retard right now
also do you know what the percents are?

Celts 22.6
Franks 15.8
Danish Vikings 15.1
Longobards 8.34
Scythians 7.35
Saxons 7.14
Vikings Swedish 6.86
Visigoths 4.79
Vikings Icelandic 4.55
Ostrogoths 4.36
Gauls 3.1

[TheOldNorth]

Celts 22.6
Franks 15.8
Danish Vikings 15.1
Longobards 8.34
Scythians 7.35
Saxons 7.14
Vikings Swedish 6.86
Visigoths 4.79
Vikings Icelandic 4.55
Ostrogoths 4.36
Gauls 3.1

interestingly high amount of celtic... would she happen to come from the rhine region or southern germany?

[Kyp]

interestingly high amount of celtic... would she happen to come from the rhine region or southern germany?

Franconia, northernmost part of Bavaria

[paradox]

I think it's on Gedmatch ;) I am not entirely sure though, I would ask Iron/Carpatz that he knows better. I don't know why they confused the results with gyppos, maybe you were actually mistaken by the designation "Roma" which gypsies use? Romanians and Aromanians are genetically unrelated to those. Did your father also did a DNA test? Notify me or link me what in truth he scored.

"Plot" is referring to the population you genetically tend to relate to it definitely has some geographical or location-related connotations as well, like the area you are closer too. It's your y dna from your father that interests me where he really plots to. :D

Hi, my father's results are on this thread post #64 just below mine. If you want to see more go through my posting history, I can't post links at the moment. His y dna is Ev13.

[Matty74]

https://i.imgur.com/4Ez5LfQ.png

https://i.imgur.com/s7fP8yZ.jpg

[Beo242]

94345

[Dick]

94345

I am also I1 Z63. where is your uncle from

[Beo242]

he is from Belarus, but his ancestors were Germans from Minsk(if you know from old colonies from Luthernaskaya and Nemetskaya streets in Minsk)

[Dick]

he is from Belarus, but his ancestors were Germans from Minsk(if you know from old colonies from Luthernaskaya and Nemetskaya streets in Minsk)

Lol well that's a coincidence. I'm not Belarusian. Ignore the flag in my profile. I'm actually a Serb.

[Beo242]

lol. So your paternal ancestor was a goth?

[Dick]

lol. So your paternal ancestor was a goth?

I guess so.

[Bosniensis]

I guess so.

Most of Goths are R1b. I1 among the goths comes from assimilated populace just like I2 among R1a Slavs.

[PT Tagus]

https://i.imgur.com/fEVpFPj.png

https://i.imgur.com/pc8iPyv.png

[Grace O'Malley]

https://i.imgur.com/pkWnKwU.png

https://i.imgur.com/TWQSlf6.png

[Kyp]

https://i.imgur.com/pkWnKwU.png

https://i.imgur.com/TWQSlf6.png

Wow how much % Celtic?

[Grace O'Malley]

interestingly high amount of celtic... would she happen to come from the rhine region or southern germany?

What they call samples on MTA might not be accurate. They call most of the Bronze Age British samples Celtic for example. They appear to call samples that get modern day Ireland or Scotland etc on their K15 calc Celtic. They have for example samples like Viking Celtic, Danish Celt, Celtic Mix Lombard and samples like Bronze Age Celt from England when the Celts didn't even exist in the Bronze Age. I personally wouldn't take this very seriously.

[Grace O'Malley]

Wow how much % Celtic?

33.6%. It's because I have such a lot of Bronze Age matches from Britain also the Gaelic hybrid matches from Iceland etc.

My Top 10 for example.

1. Scotland Late Bronze Age (900 BC) ..... 2.065 - I2860 -
Top 99% match vs all users

2. Viking Celtic Boat Burial Iceland (925 AD) ..... 2.688 - VDP-A6 -
Top 99% match vs all users

3. Bell Beaker England (2100 BC) ..... 3.39 - I2452 -
Top 99% match vs all users

4. Bronze Age Orkney Islands (1750 BC) ..... 4.688 - I2981 -
Top 98% match vs all users

5. Early Bronze Age Thames (1800 BC) ..... 4.931 - I5377 -
Top 96% match vs all users

6. Celtic Briton Gladiator York (250 AD) ..... 4.973 - 6DRIF-3 -
Top 99% match vs all users

7. Food Vessel Scotland (1900 BC) ..... 4.98 - I5515 -
Top 99% match vs all users

8. Bronze Age Scottish Islands (2350 BC) ..... 5.047 - I5367 -
Top 99% match vs all users

9. Middle Bronze Age England (1575 BC) ..... 5.279 - I7573 -
Top 99% match vs all users

10. Late Medieval Gotlander (1600 AD) ..... 5.286 - Unknown
Top 98% match vs all users

[Rædwald]

https://i.postimg.cc/2yydfCDD/111.png

Ancient Samples


Celts - 18.8%
Saxons - 16.2%
Danish Vikings - 13.6%
Longobards - 10.7%
Vikings (Swedish) - 10%
Franks - 9.53%
Vandals - 5.67%
Viking (Norway) - 5.04%
Vikings (Iceland) - 4.09%
Visigoths - 3.54%
Ostrogoths - 2.45%

[noricum]

https://s19.directupload.net/images/200106/2c8krykt.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

https://s19.directupload.net/images/200106/d8j24yt5.jpg (https://www.directupload.net)

[PaleoEuropean]

Most of Goths are R1b. I1 among the goths comes from assimilated populace just like I2 among R1a Slavs.

Considering they are from Scandinavia that's highly doubtful. Maybe you are referring to the Goths as they existed in Spain and other places afterword.

[Bosniensis]

Considering they are from Scandinavia that's highly doubtful. Maybe you are referring to the Goths as they existed in Spain and other places afterword.

Visigoths and Ostrogoths came from steppe as R1b, before that they ruled over I1 people whom they used as soldiers and slaves.

[vbnetkhio]

Most of Goths are R1b. I1 among the goths comes from assimilated populace just like I2 among R1a Slavs.

Goths ultimately came from Sweden which is majority i1.

[Bosniensis]

Goths ultimately came from Sweden which is majority i1.

But that wasn't their natural habitat. Paleo-Scandinavian I1 people were conquered by Goths.

Goths (R1b) just like their R1a cousins are Indo-Eureopan people.

[vbnetkhio]

But that wasn't their natural habitat. Paleo-Scandinavian I1 people were conquered by Goths.

Goths (R1b) just like their R1a cousins are Indo-Eureopan people.

Paleo Scandinavians were i2, they had a branch closely related to the Slavic one.
i1 was a small haplogroup in West Europe (one tribe or family) and it expanded at the same time as the indo-european invasion
common ancestor of all i1 men today lived only 4600 years ago

[PaleoEuropean]

Visigoths and Ostrogoths came from steppe as R1b, before that they ruled over I1 people whom they used as soldiers and slaves.


I1a3 is considered the major Goth Y line to my understanding.
https://aleximreh.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/goth-dna/

[Bosniensis]

I1a3 is considered the major Goth Y line to my understanding.
https://aleximreh.wordpress.com/2017/02/08/goth-dna/

According to my personal research (migrantions, wars etc..) I have taken a freedom to disagree with that argument.

Also, Goths, as all Germanic people cherished bloodlines and tribes, it is highly unlikely that they had Y-DNA that originated from non-indoeuropean groups.

However, I accept the fact that Later Goths had I1 haplogroup just like Slavs had I2a1b, neither of those two are original Gothic or Slavic.

But in the end, you are what you represent. Haplogroup nationalism is for nerds only.

[PaleoEuropean]

According to my personal research (migrantions, wars etc..) I have taken a freedom to disagree with that argument.

Also, Goths, as all Germanic people cherished bloodlines and tribes, it is highly unlikely that they had Y-DNA that originated from non-indoeuropean groups.

However, I accept the fact that Later Goths had I1 haplogroup just like Slavs had I2a1b, neither of those two are original Gothic or Slavic.

But in the end, you are what you represent. Haplogroup nationalism is for nerds only.

You are applying modern pseudoscience and science with ancient peoples, that's like saying Goths considered themselves white; pretty silly.

[Bosniensis]

You are applying modern pseudoscience and science with ancient peoples, that's like saying Goths considered themselves white; pretty silly.

You must free yourself from dogmatic schools of thinking. Think yourself sometimes :)

Also pseudo science is like Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, if you accept it as a truth... who can deny you right to believe ?

:D

[Dick]

You must free yourself from dogmatic schools of thinking. Think yourself sometimes :)

Also pseudo science is like Schrödinger's cat thought experiment, if you accept it as a truth... who can deny you right to believe ?

:D

The truth is you're as Roman as I am Chinese

[Bosniensis]

The truth is you're as Roman as I am Chinese

"Roman". Nobody is Roman. Romans do not exist for 1000 years. They are all dead.

The only proper way to say it is that someone in your distant ancestry might have been.

You are Canadian Serb and I am Bosnian :P

[Slavic Italian]

"Roman". Nobody is Roman. Romans do not exist for 1000 years. They are all dead.

The only proper way to say it is that someone in your distant ancestry might have been.

You are Canadian Serb and I am Bosnian :P

Neither of you are Italian. Your ancestors at the very most "served" the Romans.

[Dick]

"Roman". Nobody is Roman. Romans do not exist for 1000 years. They are all dead.

The only proper way to say it is that someone in your distant ancestry might have been.

You are Canadian Serb and I am Bosnian :P

Or in other words I eat bacon and you don't

[PaleoEuropean]

Or in other words I eat bacon and you don't

He can never truly appreciate baked beans as they were intended to be eaten.

[Bosniensis]

Neither of you are Italian. Your ancestors at the very most "served" the Romans.

We are more Hellenic than some Italians, and that is interesting topic for a future research.

Serbs and Bosnians score a lot of Peloponnese and Central Greece, 30-45%


We have expected to score 80-90% Eastern European (from what we have been taught in Schools)


Mine for example Ancient Samples, and this is not just me.. maybe 70% of Serbia and Bosnia have these

https://i.imgur.com/AoWI2dg.png

https://i.imgur.com/h3sriBo.png

[InfamousAngel99]

Me
Celt + Frank (2.79)
Viking Danish + Frank (3.603)
Frank (6.485)
Celt (7.513)
Viking Danish (8.007)
Saxon (10.25)
Visigoth (11.13)

Maternal Grandmother
Viking Danish + Frank (5.531)
Celt + Frank (6.203)
Frank (7.499)
Viking Danish (10.98)
Celt (11.18)
Thuringii (11.71)
Saxon (13.18)

[Celestia]

Mi Madre:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=94391&d=1578376256

[πολεμιστής]

.....................

[πολεμιστής]

https://i.imgur.com/edvRhZh.jpg

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

https://i.imgur.com/CsXdSJE.png

Not Illyrian anymore.


Edit:

https://i.imgur.com/2MKWgJt.png


Spoke too soon, Illyrian is still my top ancient sample at 19.1%.

[πολεμιστής]

https://i.imgur.com/CsXdSJE.png

Not Illyrian anymore.

You are still more Illyrian than Bosniensis ;)

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

You are still more Illyrian than Bosniensis ;)

Iberian members are more "Illyrian" than all Balkan ethnic groups to be fair (on mytrueancestry).

[πολεμιστής]

Iberian members are more "Illyrian" than all Balkan ethnic groups to be fair (on mytrueancestry).


Yeah, that is true, but out of all Balkan people these samples are the closest to certain North Albanians, they just plot more West basically. As I have seen this on various calculators, similarity maps etc. And done my research on this. Also some Iron Age Roman samples were clustering closer to Albanians than to some Italians that shift more West for example that doesn't mean Albanians are Romans so clustering isn't always best to identify a population. Even some Tuscans and North East Italians such as Frulians cluster closer to Albanians than they do to some Italians that shift more West towards Iberia or the ones that cluster with Greeks.

What's interesting also is that North East Italy is almost at the border with Croatia so the people in that area during Ancient times would of bordered the Northenmost Illyrians yet these samples in Croatia shift more West than North East Italians.

Also for example , Vucedol sample clusters West of me, and it belongs to an Y-DNA marker which is very typical in Albanians. But I don't think on MyTrueAncestry they used this sample.

You have also many Albanians that also cluster as North as Romanian average which aren't put on this map and also many as South as Abruzzo or South of Tuscany.


https://i.imgur.com/SItLIkm.png


https://i.imgur.com/4vEC9YX.jpg



These samples also carry Y-DNA markers that are overall more common in the Albanian population rather than the people they cluster with or even South Slavs overall who are largely I2a1b/R1a.

And I think personally their language and culture was similar to Proto-Albanian or pre-Roman Balkan based on my research of various linguists that put Albanian as Illyrian.


Weather Illyrians in Croatia clustered like this is another question. I think by the late Iron Age people of the West Balkans clustered more East like some Italians and Albanians overall. As I don't think Bronze Age samples are a good representative of what people clustered like. As even Bronze Age samples in Montenegro clustered West like these samples for some reason and its possible even Bronze Age samples in Albania would cluster like that.


The West Balkans possibly received another Iron Age migration later. There were two Indo European waves into the West Balkans compared to the rest of Europe which seems to of mostly received one during the Iron Age. The Bronze Age possibly had the most impact in the Balkans genetically and linguistically though.


In the East Balkans, Bronze Age samples were also clustering like North-East Europeans for example. Yet by late Iron Age they were East of Tuscans many of them or more or less like Tuscans. So you see the change even there.

[MagnusDark]

Not sure if the shared CM for these are realistic. Seems so high. I used 23andme file which apparently is more accurate for this. Also I share more cm and similarity with Illyrian samples than Thracian(despite getting this in closest). Not sure what their algorithms are. Here are my results:

https://i.postimg.cc/zv7BXYtx/mag1.png

https://i.postimg.cc/nrk21Mrp/time.png

https://i.postimg.cc/y6pCBNnw/mag2.png

Romans- 43.6%
Hellenic Romans- 12.1%
Roman Hispania- 10.2%
Ancient Greek- 7.98%
Illyrian- 5.64%
Minoan- 4.85%
Thracian- 4.46%
Gallo-Roman- 3.59%
Phillistine- 2.84%
Hittite- 2.72%
Gaul- 1.9%

1. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 7.129 - SZ32 - ?
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2. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 9.299 - R969 -
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3. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 9.724 - SZ36 -
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4. Latin Prenestini Tribe Inland PS (300 BC) ..... 11.49 - R437 -
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5. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 11.56 - I9033 -
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6. Late Roman Empire Crypta Balbi (500 AD) ..... 11.95 - R107 -
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7. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 12.16 - R60 -
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8. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 12.17 - R54 -
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9. Central Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.3 - SZ43 -
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10. Imperial Rome Cluana Ancona (165 AD) ..... 12.31 - R835 -
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11. Thracian Bulgaria (450 BC) ..... 12.46 - I5769 -
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12. Tuscan Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (1350 AD) ..... 12.73 - R1290 -
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13. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 12.81 - R973 -
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14. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 12.92 - R436 -
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15. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 13.06 - R57 -
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16. Central Roman (630 AD) ..... 13.07 - CL36 - ?
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17. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 13.08 - R136 -
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18. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 13.74 - R125 -
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19. Central Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 13.88 - R32 -
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20. Central Roman San Ercolano (100 AD) ..... 13.9 - R117 -
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21. Central Roman / Mixed (590 AD) ..... 13.94 - SZ19 -
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22. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 13.97 - SZ40 - ?
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23. Hellenic Roman Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 14.04 - R1548 -
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24. Medieval Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 14.08 - I12649 -
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25. North Roman Warrior (590 AD) ..... 14.1 - NS3c - ?
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26. Roman Villa Tarragona (350 AD) ..... 14.26 - I6491 -
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27. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 14.34 - R65 -
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28. Central Roman (580 AD) ..... 14.4 - CL121 -
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29. Imperial Rome Centocelle (282 AD) ..... 14.61 - R47 -
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30. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 14.68 - R49 -
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31. Tivoli Palace Late Renaissance (1650 AD) ..... 14.79 - R970 -
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32. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 14.88 - R56 -
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33. Roman/Illyrian Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 14.97 - R36 -
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34. Late Roman Iberia Granada (470 AD) ..... 15.07 - I3576 -
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35. Central Roman Celio Military Hospital (500 AD) ..... 15.09 - R35 -
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36. Protovillanovia Martinsicuro (930 BC) ..... 15.42 - R1 -
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37. Medieval Italy Abbadia SS Plague (1348 AD) ..... 15.48 - BSS31
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38. Scythian Southern Moldova (290 BC) ..... 15.54 - scy197b - ?
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39. Scythian Southern Moldova (270 BC) ..... 15.68 - scy192 -
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40. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 15.74 - I3575 -
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41. Gallo-Roman (590 AD) ..... 15.76 - SZ28 - ?
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42. Sicily Beaker (2200 BC) ..... 15.94 - I4930 -
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43. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) ..... 16.14 - NS3b - ?
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44. Crusader Knight Tuscan / Lebanon (1250 AD) ..... 16.2 - SI-53 -
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45. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 16.3 - R58 -
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46. Imperial Rome ANAS (200 AD) ..... 16.5 - R69 -
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47. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 16.62 - R51 -
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48. Marseilles Plague Victim (1721 AD) ..... 16.69 - OBS137 - ?
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49. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 16.74 - R133 -
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50. Imperial Rome Empire Via Paisiello (100 AD) ..... 16.76 - R114 -
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51. Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 16.78 - R52 -
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52. Iberian Taifa of Valencia (1200 AD) ..... 16.85 - I2647
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53. Tuscan Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1110 AD) ..... 17.16 - R64 -
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54. Roman Mix San Ercolano (500 AD) ..... 17.43 - R118 -
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55. Medieval Cancelleria Basilica (860 AD) ..... 17.59 - R1283 -
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56. Roman Villa Granada Spain (350 AD) ..... 17.75 - I3983 -
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57. Illyrian / Dalmatian (1600 BC) ..... 17.77 - I4332 -
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58. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (905 AD) ..... 17.88 - R59 -
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59. Late Roman Iberia Granada (500 AD) ..... 17.98 - I3582 -
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60. Roman Empire Monterotondo (165 AD) ..... 18.11 - R1540
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https://i.postimg.cc/zBnMhz1F/mag3.png

https://i.postimg.cc/qMbkqLwM/cm1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/MHn9DqCL/cm2.png
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https://i.postimg.cc/sDdVhxdb/cm4.png
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https://i.postimg.cc/J0gHNL8P/cm6.png
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https://i.postimg.cc/9QHrC1QR/cm9.png
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https://i.postimg.cc/kgy8HLvX/cm11.png

[πολεμιστής]

Roman, Ancient Greek, Thracian, Hellenic etc is basically pre-Slavic Balkan ancestry. They are probably a better example of what pre-Slavic Balkan people were clustering like overall than those samples found in Croatia since I think those samples are possibly way too early in time.

[MagnusDark]

Roman, Ancient Greek, Hellenic etc is basically pre-Slavic Balkan ancestry. They are probably a better example of what pre-Slavic Balkan people were clustering like overall than those samples found in Croatia since I think those samples are possibly way too early in time.

That is a good point. There was probably very little differentiation at the time. Also, alot of Balkan Romans were really just Romanized natives for the most part.So, they may not be characteristic of Rome proper, but just Roman admixed Paleo-Balkanites.

[πολεμιστής]

That is a good point. There was probably very little differentiation at the time. Also, alot of Balkan Romans were really just Romanized natives for the most part.So, they may not be characteristic of Rome proper, but just Roman admixed Paleo-Balkanites.

It's possible pre-Slavic Balkan people were genetically similar to Italians , Greeks etc like Albanians are so hence therefore it gives Roman, Ancient Greek etc. Basically whatever samples you are closest too, and it's largely genetic similarity rather than actual ancestry.


Probably plenty of Illyrians that were Greek-like for example hence it gives Ancient Greek for some, Hellenic etc.


We don't have enough ancient samples to make it accurate and even if we did it would probably give a mix mash of different results for some people since those ancient populations largely genetically overlapped possibly with each other


Kinda how some Albanians get Greek, Bulgarian, Tuscan, Macedonian, Romanian etc on calculators. Genetic similarity.

[Bosniensis]

Roman, Ancient Greek, Thracian, Hellenic etc is basically pre-Slavic Balkan ancestry. They are probably a better example of what pre-Slavic Balkan people were clustering like overall than those samples found in Croatia since I think those samples are possibly way too early in time.

Is there any I2 haplogroup and their ancestral clades that hasn't been on Balkans before every J2, E2, R1 etc.. haplogroup?

You can talk about Slavic, Pre-Slavic as much as you want, the fact is that 60% of Bosnians are I2a1 and our only Paternal cousins are Sardinians who are I2a1a

So any attempt to ridicule us Western Balkaners as some 6th century newcomers is doomed.

Balkans has seen more wars than entire Europe combined, and just because we are severly mixed unlike some remote highlanders isn't a reason to call us foreigners.

The fact we are more MIXED than "Some" is the fact that we are the most authentic Balkan people.

[MagnusDark]

Is there any I2 haplogroup and their ancestral clades that hasn't been on Balkans before every J2, E2, R1 etc.. haplogroup?

You can talk about Slavic, Pre-Slavic as much as you want, the fact is that 60% of Bosnians are I2a1 and our only Paternal cousins are Sardinians who are I2a1a

So any attempt to ridicule us Western Balkaners as some 6th century newcomers is doomed.

Balkans has seen more wars than entire Europe combined, and just because we are severly mixed unlike some remote highlanders isn't a reason to call us foreigners.

The fact we are more MIXED than "Some" is the fact that we are the most authentic Balkan people.


You are beyond a mentally confused individual. You ever hear of a bottleneck/founder effect? Most of your "Balkan" ancestry is via proxy(assimilating and mixing with natives). Your paternal direct ancestor arrived with the great migration from north of the Danube. Whether you like that reality or not.

You also really are pathetic. You have been at this for years and still lack a very elementary understanding of Y-DNA and their related subclades. The common ancestor with Sardinian I2 is well over 11000 years. Do you understand basic math?

You're PH908-TMRCA 1800ybp(100-200CE). Your earliest I2a1b ancestor was found in Motala Sweden, still some 5-6 thousand years before the formation of your clade. All I2a1b-Y3120 only trace back to one man in 100 BC. Almost 100 percent of the living descendants are all Slavic speaking. Almost the entirety of I2a1b-Y3120 in the Balkans are due to young bottlenecks/founder effects, which means I2a1b-Y3120 was not in the Balkans before the early middle ages. You have a better chance of connecting your Pre-Slavic I2 ancestor to East Germanics, and potentially a East Celt than you do Paleo-Balkan tribes.

You even said in another thread "the truth is whatever you want it to be". Maybe in your deranged skull. The truth is the truth, whether you believe it or not. The truth is your earliest male ancestor was not in the Balkans.

Same as any of us without paleo-balkan Y-DNA. We merely acquire native ancestry by proxy. You can claim paleo-balkan ancestry as is natural being mixed. You're lying to yourself and creating an agenda when you try and claim your Y-DNA is also paleo-balkan. It is not. The only I2 thats paleobalkan so far are clades of I2a2a, which barely make a dent in the overall percentage of Balkanites.

Also your attempt to draw a connection with a 10000 year old basal clade in Starcevo is also laughable. There were no Illyrians, no Thracians, no Indo-Europeans of any kind at that time. The paleo-balkan cultures had nothing to do with your earliest I ancestor. Additionally there is still a gap of 10000 years between you and they. With absolutely no modern living people having clades in between.

If you're going to be so pigheaded to go back 10000 years, may as well go back to the beginning when all Haplos came from A out of Africa.

[Bosniensis]

You are beyond a mentally confused individual. You ever hear of a bottleneck/founder effect? Most of your "Balkan" ancestry is via proxy(assimilating and mixing with natives). Your paternal direct ancestor arrived with the great migration from north of the Danube. Whether you like that reality or not.

You also really are pathetic. You have been at this for years and still lack a very elementary understanding of Y-DNA and their related subclades. The common ancestor with Sardinian I2 is well over 11000 years. Do you understand basic math?

You're PH908-TMRCA 1800ybp(100-200CE). Your earliest I2a1b ancestor was found in Motala Sweden, still some 5-6 thousand years before the formation of your clade. All I2a1b-Y3120 only trace back to one man in 100 BC. Almost 100 percent of the living descendants are all Slavic speaking. Almost the entirety of I2a1b-Y3120 in the Balkans are due to young bottlenecks/founder effects, which means I2a1b-Y3120 was not in the Balkans before the early middle ages. You have a better chance of connecting your Pre-Slavic I2 ancestor to East Germanics, and potentially a East Celt than you do Paleo-Balkan tribes.

You even said in another thread "the truth is whatever you want it to be". Maybe in your deranged skull. The truth is the truth, whether you believe it or not. The truth is your earliest male ancestor was not in the Balkans.

Same as any of us without paleo-balkan Y-DNA. We merely acquire native ancestry by proxy. You can claim paleo-balkan ancestry as is natural being mixed. You're lying to yourself and creating an agenda when you try and claim your Y-DNA is also paleo-balkan. It is not. The only I2 thats paleobalkan so far are clades of I2a2a, which barely make a dent in the overall percentage of Balkanites.

Also your attempt to draw a connection with a 10000 year old basal clade in Starcevo is also laughable. There were no Illyrians, no Thracians, no Indo-Europeans of any kind at that time. The paleo-balkan cultures had nothing to do with your earliest I ancestor. Additionally there is still a gap of 10000 years between you and they. With absolutely no modern living people having clades in between.

If you're going to be so pigheaded to go back 10000 years, may as well go back to the beginning when all Haplos came from A out of Africa.

You are really Pathetic.

You want to say that INDO-EUROPEANS who are paternally related to Haplogroup O are more European/Balkan than our I2 ancestors who emerged in EUROPE?

11000 years is still closer than 50.000 years.

"The common ancestor with Sardinian I2 is well over 11000 years." Still FAR closer than any Haplogroup R1a/b whom you deem domestic over mine I2a1b clade.

You will soon uncover the truth about your TIME calculations as well

[MagnusDark]

You are really Pathetic.

You want to say that INDO-EUROPEANS who are paternally related to Haplogroup O are more European/Balkan than our I2 ancestors who emerged in EUROPE?

11000 years is still closer than 50.000 years.

"The common ancestor with Sardinian I2 is well over 11000 years." Still FAR closer than any Haplogroup R1a/b whom you deem domestic over mine I2a1b clade.

You will soon uncover the truth about your TIME calculations as well

You're the only pathetic one. I wouldn't expect anything less from you. You know absolutely nothing about genetics. Zilch. Nada. Keep LARPing. You're still just a Muslim/Arab "Dog" to most Europeans any way. They will never accept you. You still ride that Serbian pogo stick despite them butchering your Slavo-Muslim brethren. Seen as a bitch by Muslims and a race traitor by Serbs. You're just trying to latch onto any identity that makes you feel better.

Still just a Slavic Muslim. One day you claim Illyrian, whilst insulting their actual direct descendants. The next day you're feeling a bit on the Vlach side. What are you today Roman? I wonder what you will be tomorrow...Budal.

[wisteria]

https://i.imgur.com/FlN4RGz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o2Gapn2.jpg

[Pater Patota]

Pontic + Safavid (8.863)
Hellenic Roman + Alan (10.53)
Safavid (13.9)
Pontic (15.62)
Seleucid (18.37)
Alan (18.87)

[Oneeye]

It is more accurate now:


https://i.ibb.co/MZZH8ry/Screenshot-20200110-211024-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/344bf25)

[TheOldNorth]

It is more accurate now:


https://i.ibb.co/MZZH8ry/Screenshot-20200110-211024-Samsung-Internet.jpg (https://ibb.co/344bf25)

what did it say before?

[Matty74]

Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)

[Tchek]

More accurate than before:

https://i.ibb.co/HX3fnHh/My-True-Ancestry-com.jpg

[Ritz06]

https://i.imgur.com/4Y3VHLW.png

[Bosniensis]

https://i.imgur.com/4Y3VHLW.png

I was Greco-Bactrian for a few days till they fixed it xD

[BreakingBed]

https://imgur.com/upq3Y0R

What do you guys think about my ethnicity just for looking these results? I can also upload my "Ancient Breakdown" results too.

[Oneeye]

what did it say before?

Longobards and celts

[BreakingBed]

Safavid Dynasty 20.9%
Hellenic Romans 14.6%
Romans 14%
Canaanites and Semites 9.89%
Hittites 8.79%
Alans 8.69%
Maurya Empire 5.5%
Minoans 5.02%
Ancient Greeks 4.78%
Ghaznavid Dynasty 4.69%
Pontic Empire 2.94%

[J. Ketch]

Mine

Viking Icelandic + Celt (1.595)
Viking Icelandic + Saxon (2.884)
Celt (5.137)
Viking Icelandic (6.265)
Viking Danish (6.844)
Viking (7.21)
Saxon (8.277)

Celts - 35%
Danish Viking - 13.2%
Vikings (Swedish) - 11.5%
Vikings (Icelandic) - 9.76%
Saxons - 9.62%
Longobards - 8.4%
Norwegian Vikings - 5.51%
Vandals - 3.61%
Franks - 2.39%
Visigoths - 0.7%

Mother

Viking Norwegian + Celt (2.764)
Celt + Saxon (3.43)
Saxon (5.168)
Celt (6.443)
Viking Danish (6.464)
Viking Norwegian (6.51)
Longobard (6.825)

Father

Viking + Celt (2.235)
Viking Danish + Saxon (2.309)
Viking (4.273)
Viking Danish (4.705)
Celt (5.757)
Viking Norwegian (7.34)
Saxon (7.447)

[lacreme]

Hellenic Roman + Roman (5.586)
Seleucid + Roman (7.396)
Hellenic Roman (11.69)
Roman (12.12)
Ancient Greek (14.56)
Seleucid (16.13)
Pontic (16.41)

Hi (almost) genetic brother of my friend :D
For comparison's sake here are his results
(on the attached images )

And his closest matches.
1. Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1100 AD) ..... 10.33 -
2. [Hidden] ..... 10.37 -
3. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 10.7 -
4. [Hidden] ..... 10.88 -
5. Hellenic Roman Marcellino (400 AD) ..... 11.24 -
6. [Hidden] ..... 11.25 - ?
7. Roman Imperial Palestrina (100 AD) ..... 11.35 -
8. [Hidden] ..... 11.65 -
9. Hellenic Roman (590 AD) ..... 12.13 - ?
10. [Hidden] ..... 12.13 -
11. Hellenic Roman Mausoleo Augusto (500 AD) ..... 12.31
12. [Hidden] ..... 12.33 -
13. Mycenaean (1350 BC) ..... 12.49 -
14. [Hidden] ..... 12.81 -
15. Imperial Rome Centocelle (200 AD) ..... 12.93 -
16. [Hidden] ..... 13.37 -
17. Central Roman Casale del Dolce (200 AD) ..... 13.58 -
18. [Hidden] ..... 13.64 -
19. Tuscan Late Medieval Villa Magna Italy (1355 AD) ..... 13.79 -
20. [Hidden] ..... 13.81 -

[TheOldNorth]

Longobards and celts

well you know germans have significant alpine/hercnian celtic admixture, especially in south and central germany, and the english are about 40-70% british celtic depending on the region of england, so celts is probably not to far off, but the dutch are pretty germanic, as are northern most germans, and Danes

[Pater Patota]

https://imgur.com/upq3Y0R

What do you guys think about my ethnicity just for looking these results? I can also upload my "Ancient Breakdown" results too.

Yours is similar to mine.I’m a quarter Zaza.

[Lemminkäinen]

Viking + Longobard (4.557)
Viking + Avar (5.131)
Viking (8.967)
Longobard (12.7)
Ostrogoth (13.33)
Avar (13.98)
Scythian (14.08)

Where do Finno-Ugric warriors hide?

Here are also my results based on shared segments with ancient samples. I dropped out all results sharing less than 70% more than other matching users. Sample quality is still a big question and I am not aware of how they define it. Who where Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC people? Did they speak Uralic languages? Three Estonians don't surprise, but Oeselians could have been Scandinavians as well. Late Bronze Age Estonian spoke probably IE language. A lonely Ingrian was Finnic for sure.

Scythian Ukraine
600 BC
scy009
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=50.83
Largest segment=31.07 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 40) - Your raw DNA is
93
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna urm160
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=22.11
Largest segment=16.81 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 15) - Your raw DNA is
99
% closer than other matching users

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Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC
1725 BC
kzb002
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=85.04
Largest segment=15.07 cM (7 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is
95
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna 84001
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=40.14
Largest segment=14.94 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is
72
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] ?
Total cM=44.29
Largest segment=13.72 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is
74
% closer than other matching users

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Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC
1725 BC
kzb007
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=82.28
Largest segment=12.4 cM (9 shared. Sample quality: 84) - Your raw DNA is
98
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
DAV-A8
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=38.11
Largest segment=11.67 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 84) - Your raw DNA is
96
% closer than other matching users

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Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC
1725 BC
kzb006
Total cM=19.4
Largest segment=10.3 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 58) - Your raw DNA is
76
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Gaelic Boat Burial Iceland
925 AD
VDP-A7
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=26.25
Largest segment=9.31 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 63) - Your raw DNA is
77
% closer than other matching users

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Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC
1725 BC
kzb009
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=16.71
Largest segment=8.71 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is
82
% closer than other matching users

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Syltholm Neolithic Denmark
3750 BC
Syltholm_1
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=24.36
Largest segment=7.97 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 62) - Your raw DNA is
73
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
TGS-A1
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=21.15
Largest segment=7.17 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 48) - Your raw DNA is
97
% closer than other matching users

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Medieval Oeselian Saaremaa
1270 AD
IIa
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=16.9
Largest segment=6.86 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 39) - Your raw DNA is
81
% closer than other matching users

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Medieval Czech Brandysek
710 AD
Rise569
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=16.62
Largest segment=6.57 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is
91
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
935 AD
urm045
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=9.93
Largest segment=5.97 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 7) - Your raw DNA is
90
% closer than other matching users

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Czech Bilina CWC
2625 BC
I6695
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] ?
Total cM=14.8
Largest segment=5.94 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 42) - Your raw DNA is
93
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
SVK-A1
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=15.2
Largest segment=5.81 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is
88
% closer than other matching users

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Avar
590 AD
AV2
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see] ?
Total cM=16.49
Largest segment=5.61 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is
96
% closer than other matching users

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Iron Age Ingria
130 AD
VIII7
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=10.13
Largest segment=5.29 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 5) - Your raw DNA is
92
% closer than other matching users

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Medieval Oeselian Livonia
1375 AD
IIf
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=12.08
Largest segment=4.41 cM (5 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
93
% closer than other matching users

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Greuthungi / Ostrogoth
400 AD
MJ19
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=11.1
Largest segment=4.09 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is
87
% closer than other matching users

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Scythian Moldova
300 BC
scy301
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=9.81
Largest segment=3.94 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 28) - Your raw DNA is
95
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna stg026
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=8.7
Largest segment=3.42 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 8) - Your raw DNA is
89
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna grt036
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=8.36
Largest segment=3.35 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
93
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna 84005
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=5.58
Largest segment=3.27 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 13) - Your raw DNA is
98
% closer than other matching users

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Nordic Lombard
580 AD
CL146
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=8.04
Largest segment=3.21 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is
76
% closer than other matching users

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Late Bronze Age Estonia
580 BC
VII4
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=6.76
Largest segment=2.6 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 24) - Your raw DNA is
72
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg020
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=4.42
Largest segment=2.44 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 13) - Your raw DNA is
95
% closer than other matching users

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Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
SSJ-A2
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]Y-DNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=4.35
Largest segment=2.43 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 12) - Your raw DNA is
91
% closer than other matching users

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Western Scythian Ukraine
580 BC
MJ13
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Total cM=8.09
Largest segment=2.24 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 17) - Your raw DNA is
86
% closer than other matching users

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[I.vet]

After the last update, I immediately got 9 Vikings :) Almost all of these Vikings are of Scandinavian origin (according to autosomal results), and all my other matches are mainly of Baltic-Slavic and Finnish origin, hmm

Trans-Volga Forest Steppes CWC
1725 BC
kzb002
mtDNA: J1c3aY-DNA: R1a1a1
Total cM=47.98
Largest segment=47.98 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is 8% closer than other matching users


Kievan Rus
1130 AD
Sunghir6
mtDNA: W3a1Y-DNA: I2a1b2
Total cM=37.14
Largest segment=14.15 cM (4 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is 14% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
stg021
mtDNA: J1d1 ?
Total cM=21.74
Largest segment=13.85 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 89) - Your raw DNA is 21% closer than other matching users


Medieval Czech Slav
750 AD
Rise568
mtDNA: H
Total cM=95.72
Largest segment=13.27 cM (12 shared. Sample quality: 3) - Your raw DNA is 64% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna grt036
mtDNA: H13a1a5Y-DNA: I2a2
Total cM=13.56
Largest segment=11.8 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 19) - Your raw DNA is 60% closer than other matching users


Siberia Andronovo
1500 BC
Rise500
mtDNA: U4d1
Total cM=9.72
Largest segment=9.72 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is 6% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna 84005
mtDNA: H1ap1Y-DNA: I1a1b3
Total cM=9.63
Largest segment=9.63 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 13) - Your raw DNA is 22% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna 84001
mtDNA: H2a2a1Y-DNA: N1a1a1a1a1
Total cM=17.51
Largest segment=9.52 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 77) - Your raw DNA is 50% closer than other matching users


Avar
590 AD
AV2
mtDNA: X2m'n ?
Total cM=10.08
Largest segment=7.23 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 34) - Your raw DNA is 43% closer than other matching users


Kivutkalns Hill-fort Latvia
660 BC
Kivutkalns207
mtDNA: H1b2
Total cM=32.98
Largest segment=6.92 cM (6 shared. Sample quality: 48) - Your raw DNA is 60% closer than other matching users


Bronze Age Estonia
1110 BC
V9
mtDNA: K1c1Y-DNA: R1a1'2
Total cM=13.2
Largest segment=6.05 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 30) - Your raw DNA is 78% closer than other matching users


Kivutkalns Hill-fort Latvia
560 BC
Kivutkalns42
mtDNA: H1b1
Total cM=5.58
Largest segment=5.58 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 23) - Your raw DNA is 4% closer than other matching users


Kivutkalns Hill-fort Latvia
590 BC
Kivutkalns215
mtDNA: H1c
Total cM=13.34
Largest segment=5.44 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 40) - Your raw DNA is 56% closer than other matching users


Western Pomerania Unetice
1860 BC
Rise109
mtDNA: U4b1a3
Total cM=43.0
Largest segment=4.82 cM (13 shared. Sample quality: 11) - Your raw DNA is 72% closer than other matching users


Hungary Vatya
1 AD
Rise479
mtDNA: T2bY-DNA: I2a2a1a2a2
Total cM=4.33
Largest segment=4.33 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 51) - Your raw DNA is 9% closer than other matching users


Kivutkalns Hill-fort Latvia
560 BC
Kivutkalns19
mtDNA: H10aY-DNA: R1a1a1b
Total cM=12.07
Largest segment=4.17 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 45) - Your raw DNA is 30% closer than other matching users


Avar
590 AD
AV1
mtDNA: X2m'n ?
Total cM=7.46
Largest segment=4.14 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 36) - Your raw DNA is 35% closer than other matching users


Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
TGS-A1
mtDNA: T2e1Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2a1a2d
Total cM=3.98
Largest segment=3.98 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 48) - Your raw DNA is 3% closer than other matching users


Scythian Ukraine
600 BC
scy009
mtDNA: J2b1a6Y-DNA: R1b1a1a2
Total cM=3.79
Largest segment=3.79 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 40) - Your raw DNA is 16% closer than other matching users


Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
SVK-A1
mtDNA: I2Y-DNA: I1b
Total cM=3.42
Largest segment=3.42 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 41) - Your raw DNA is 13% closer than other matching users


Neolithic Gotlander
5000 BC
FT11 Stora
mtDNA: U5a1f1aY-DNA: I1-M253
Total cM=6.02
Largest segment=3.04 cM (2 shared. Sample quality: 7) - Your raw DNA is 44% closer than other matching users


Early Sarmatian Russia
575 BC
MJ41
mtDNA: U5b2a1a2
Total cM=2.73
Largest segment=2.73 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 31) - Your raw DNA is 25% closer than other matching users


Lithuania Late Bronze Age
905 BC
Turlojiske3
mtDNA: H4a1a1a3Y-DNA: R1a1a1b
Total cM=2.69
Largest segment=2.69 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is 1% closer than other matching users


Iron Age Balt Ingria
15 AD
VIII5
mtDNA: T1a1b
Total cM=2.51
Largest segment=2.51 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 26) - Your raw DNA is 19% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna kal006
mtDNA: V7a
Total cM=6.41
Largest segment=2.27 cM (3 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is 69% closer than other matching users


Bronze Age Estonia
955 BC
OLS11
mtDNA: H1cY-DNA: R1a1
Total cM=2.26
Largest segment=2.26 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 14) - Your raw DNA is 29% closer than other matching users


Iron Age Saaremaa Oesel
215 BC
V12
mtDNA: I1a1Y-DNA: N3a3a
Total cM=2.22
Largest segment=2.22 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is 16% closer than other matching users


Viking Norse Iceland
935 AD
DAV-A9
mtDNA: H2a2aY-DNA: I1
Total cM=2.21
Largest segment=2.21 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 20) - Your raw DNA is 72% closer than other matching users


Late Bronze Age Estonia
600 BC
OLS10
mtDNA: H13a1a1aY-DNA: N3a3'5
Total cM=2.15
Largest segment=2.15 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 20) - Your raw DNA is 20% closer than other matching users


Late Bronze Age Estonia
660 BC
X17
mtDNA: U4Y-DNA: R1a1c
Total cM=2.13
Largest segment=2.13 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 25) - Your raw DNA is 23% closer than other matching users


Iron Age Ingria
130 AD
VIII9
mtDNA: U4
Total cM=2.09
Largest segment=2.09 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 21) - Your raw DNA is 11% closer than other matching users


Viking Sweden
1100 AD
Sigtuna stg026
mtDNA: J1c2
Total cM=1.93
Largest segment=1.93 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 8) - Your raw DNA is 64% closer than other matching users


Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa
420 BC
X04
mtDNA: H1cY-DNA: R1a1'2
Total cM=1.78
Largest segment=1.78 cM (1 shared. Sample quality: 18) - Your raw DNA is 6% closer than other matching users

[RenaRyuguu]

https://i.imgur.com/R3UcD7M.png

https://i.imgur.com/mZ7Idpq.png

[Solitude]

Why Franks and Burgundi have different colors from another germanic tribes? these colors look like a celtic tribe

https://i.postimg.cc/R06C39Zn/mta.png

[Gannicus]

140107

140108

140106

140109

[Highwayman]

https://i.ibb.co/SX0XYgLC/IMG-1151.jpg (https://ibb.co/MDpDwHX0)

Anglo Saxon + Frank (2.796)
Visigoth + Anglo Saxon (2.947)
Viking Norwegian + Frank (3.02)
Visigoth + Celt (3.171)
Viking Norwegian + Visigoth (3.254)
Viking Norwegian (6.75)
Celt (6.977)
Frank (6.979)
Anglo Saxon (7.393)
Visigoth (7.524)

https://i.ibb.co/mF5VjdKb/IMG-1150.jpg (https://ibb.co/wrhFk8qB)
https://i.ibb.co/5gXcb5kq/IMG-1149.jpg (https://ibb.co/W4NKmc0S)