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Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 05:50 AM
Its insane how these people are one of the closest living to Amerindians and thus are indirectly related (albelt still very distant) to Latinos genetically, but they so alien from one another as day and night.

Siberians. I think they are Nenets, Mansi and Ket.

http://imgur.com/CQRCzCc.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wOvaNAQ.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTEby25aqrp_ED-Ge7RhCT3HhjpPAz-6N5PkeIAmVFO2VrsUDcr

Central Asians. I think they are Kyrgyz (in first pic) and Uzbek

http://imgur.com/rbx1oNr.jpg

http://imgur.com/I5Vy8B8.jpg

http://imgur.com/o9SPVas.jpg

Zuh
01-06-2020, 05:53 AM
I have Siberian ancestry and look nothing like them as a matter of fact im Siberian-Iberian.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 05:54 AM
I have Siberian ancestry and look nothing like them as a matter of fact im Siberian-Iberian.

Its insane and mindblowing how they are genetically one of the closest Old World relatives of Amerindians but they look nothing alike at all.

Would they be seen as aliens in Mexico? I dont think they pass in Latin America?

Zuh
01-06-2020, 05:56 AM
Would they be seen as aliens in Mexico? I dont think they pass in Latin America?

They would be seen as atypical as the majority reminds me of the native american character's from the Ice age movie yeah the type.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 06:00 AM
They would be seen as atypical as the majority reminds me of the native american character's from the Ice age movie yeah the type.

Its insane and mindblowing how they are genetically one of the closest Old World relatives of Amerindians but they look barely alike like as contrasting as day and night.

Would this means they still can pass in Latin America or overall they don't?

Zuh
01-06-2020, 06:07 AM
Its insane and mindblowing how they are genetically one of the closest Old World relatives of Amerindians but they look barely alike like as contrasting as day and night.

Would this means they still can pass in Latin America or overall they don't?

Don't think so also they are lighter than many mestizos amerindians being darker is probably due to climate adaptation.

Siberia is colder than even the southern cone or Alaska.

Adamastor
01-06-2020, 06:13 AM
No, at least in Brazil. They could pass only as ''hapas'' here, Brazilians of partial Japanese ancestry, but not even close to average mixed Brazilians.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 06:19 AM
Don't think so also they are lighter than many mestizos amerindians being darker is probably due to climate adaptation.

Siberia is colder than even the southern cone or Alaska.

Does this means Siberians and Central Asians (especially the blatantly Mongoloid looking ones) overall do not pass in Latin America and would stand out? I think they look too extreme and ethnic to even pass for Japanese Brazilians or other Latinos of Asian descent.

Its so paradoxical how they are indirectly related (but still very very far away genetically) to Latinos due to the Amerindian-Siberian link but look totally different from one another. Its literally similar to hyrax and elephant case.

Central Asia is closer to North America climate especially Canada and USA (excluding the south) I think.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 06:25 AM
No, at least in Brazil. They could pass only as ''hapas'' here, Brazilians of partial Japanese ancestry, but not even close to average mixed Brazilians.

Hmm interesting. I guess in general, they would stand out from the average Brazilian crowd? But not enough for people to render them as foreigners?

Ymyyakhtakh
01-06-2020, 07:15 AM
These Tehuelche (Patagonians) look pretty (sub-)Uralid / NEUP:

https://ids.si.edu/ids/deliveryService?max=1000&id=NMNH-04299200
http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/edanmdm:siris_arc_55893


I think they are Nenets, Nganasan or Mansi and Ket.

The man in the second photo is wearing Mansi clothes.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 02:46 PM
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samario
01-06-2020, 03:32 PM
Siberians could pass in some communities in Boyaca and Cundinamarca and also amongst some mixed people with fair skin and hooded eyelids, I know one Costeño woman like that, she's also of Italian ancestry though but with really hooded eyelids. Kyrgyz couldn't for the most part, Turkic blood here is very rare, some of them even have red hair. Turkic blood+red hair, not a thing here.

Blondie
01-06-2020, 04:00 PM
No they can't especially the snow white north siberians.

Kyp
01-06-2020, 04:10 PM
Yes they can

Token
01-06-2020, 04:10 PM
You chose the wrong kind of Siberians. Actual Kets and Mansi look pretty much Amerindian.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 11:30 PM
Yes they can

Are you sure? Never seen Latinos who look like them.

Maguzanci
01-06-2020, 11:32 PM
You chose the wrong kind of Siberians. Actual Kets and Mansi look pretty much Amerindian.

They are actually Nenets, Mansi (second pic) and Ket (third pic) though. I can post more pics

Token
01-06-2020, 11:36 PM
They are actually Nenets, Mansi (second pic) and Ket (third pic) though. I can post more pics

Post less biased pics, please.

Laag
01-07-2020, 12:21 AM
Post less biased pics, please.

I don't know much about Kets but the girl looks very Nenets to me.
Nenets

https://i.imgur.com/eSTSJno.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QOCLhnL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/okUW6aP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ABRlfQI.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gfc0rpp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ibepZwL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5i0OHMU.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/rB6wglf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/macVxTY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/uEaIhPS.jpg


Also the guy looks quite Khanty/Mansi.
An Khanty woman from Coon. She has light hair and blue eyes.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe022.jpg
A Khanty man.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe023.jpg
A Mansi man.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe024.jpg

Khanty

https://i.imgur.com/2I8doiq.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/v0u4Hj2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p1DmGIO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/G1XWQIJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/THLWB2d.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/v5vit8I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SklJ8ii.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/I6ncOYO.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/l7K7pUD.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/L4pcZMg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tknLBJ8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cO3rXWX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/su5DAjc.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/eolgKMK.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tiFyX9D.jpg

Chaos One
01-07-2020, 12:28 AM
A good number of Uzbeks and Tajiks can pass in Northern Argentina, Eastern Bolivia and Chile. More Uzbeks than Tajiks in fact.

Kazakhs are too "East Asian" and would be seen as "chinos".

Maguzanci
01-07-2020, 12:33 AM
A good number of Uzbeks and Tajiks can pass in Northern Argentina, Eastern Bolivia and Chile. More Uzbeks than Tajiks in fact.

Kazakhs are too "East Asian" and would be seen as "chinos".

I guess these Uzbeks can pass as Balanced or Indomestizo?

So Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs do not really pass?

Do.Siberians like Nenets, Mansi, Ket pass or would they also be unpassable?

Laag
01-07-2020, 12:35 AM
As far as I know Latinos are totally brown skinned, dark haired and dark eyed. On the other hand Nenets, Khanty and Mansi can might be quite light pigmented.
Aksyanova found that 28,8% of Khanty and 37,3% of Mansi have light eyes (7-12 on Bunak scale).

Kamal900
01-07-2020, 12:36 AM
No. They look very Turkic than Mestizo or any ethnic group in the new world.

Token
01-07-2020, 12:39 AM
Nenets are mixed and Khanty even more. I will not even post their genetic results because the light hair tells everything.
Post Siberians with no Bronze age steppe admixture such as Yeniseians and lets see if they don't look similar to Amerindians.

Chaos One
01-07-2020, 12:54 AM
I guess these Uzbeks can pass as Balanced or Indomestizo?

So Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs do not really pass?

Do.Siberians like Nenets, Mansi, Ket pass or would they also be unpassable?

Pass from Castizo to Mestizo. But I would say that there're 2 limits here: if the Uzbek is too white, do not pass because it's a different kind of white; if too asian, they would go into "chino" box as Kazakhs or Kyrgyz enter.

About Kazakhs and Kyrgyz: I think brazilian natives are more akin to them than any other Andid group in fact. The same would apply for Siberian groups overall. Not they they are similar, but in fact they share some common features without doubt. Some examples would be this Pataxó girl:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTZb0EHrTLe86e6GVPEMWXIMgIVPet LayVa-beXzAg1Qzzbhz_2

or those Tupi women:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQQX9BgaukEDrmsfAJSvzxitM15R1f qDEqXRiPaRp6Q-Sec55QX

Ymyyakhtakh
01-07-2020, 01:11 AM
Post less biased pics, please.

Old photos of Kets (http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT?ethnos=3507041):

https://i.ibb.co/YcLn1RC/faces-of-ket-people.jpg


Post Siberians with no Bronze age steppe admixture such as Yeniseians and lets see if they don't look similar to Amerindians.

Yeniseians (Kets) have been mixed with Russians, Selkups, and Khanty (Flegontov et al. 2016 (Genomic study of the Ket: a Paleo-Eskimo-related ethnic group with significant ancient North Eurasian ancestry) (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4750364/)):


Over the centuries, Kets and other Yeniseian people suffered relocation, extinction and loss of language and culture. First, they were under a constant pressure from the reindeer herders to the north (Enets and Nenets) and east (Evenks) and the Turkic-speaking pastoralists to the south. Second, Russian conquest of Siberia, which started at the end of the 16th century, exposed the natives to new diseases, such as the 17th century smallpox epidemic[7]. Third, in the 20th century USSR resettled the Kets in Russian-style villages, thus interrupting their nomadic lifestyle[2]. Under the pressure of disease and conflict, the Kets have been gradually migrating north along the Yenisei River, and now reside in several villages in the Turukhansk district (Krasnoyarsk region); around 1,200 people in total[8]. Until the 20th century, Kets, being nomadic hunters and fishers in a vast Siberian boreal forest, had little contact with other ethnic groups, which is manifested by the rarity of loanwords in Ket language[2]. However, since the collapse of the inter-Ket exogamous marriage system following the smallpox epidemics in the 17th and 18th centuries, Kets have been marrying Selkups, Uralic-speaking reindeer herders[2,9]. Moreover, during the 20th century, the settled Kets have been increasingly mixing with other native Siberian people and with the Russians, which resulted in irrevocable loss of Ket language, genotype, and culture.

These days light eyes are fairly common among Kets (even though Selkups and Khanty are both fairly light-eyed, so it might be more because of Uralic influence than Russian influence):

https://i.imgur.com/Vmf1QfA.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/A3u3bJi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/sxlYMhB.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/dJudUnM.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/VNfGn8x.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/cvI7GvY.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6HQuG2V.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/wk8vfRA.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/6jIVxjB.jpg

Zroota
01-07-2020, 01:32 AM
Those in the last pic look very Hazara. Perhaps a few individuals can pass. But they all look very Asiatic, where some even would pass in East Asia.

Adamastor
01-07-2020, 03:21 AM
Nenets are mixed and Khanty even more. I will not even post their genetic results because the light hair tells everything.
Post Siberians with no Bronze age steppe admixture such as Yeniseians and lets see if they don't look similar to Amerindians.

But we must take into account that at least in Brazil Amerindians aren't fully Siberian. Nowadays we know about population Y and it's possible influence in Brazilian Amerindians. It's still up to debate how they acquired this admixture and if it's pre-migration or post-migration, but the Australoid and pseudo-Negroid features exhibited by some Brazilian Amerindians certainly has something to do with that.

Laag
01-07-2020, 05:27 AM
I would say Nenets, Khanty and Mansi are totally unpassable in Latin America. They look like people from two completely different worlds.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2842/9682222511_d4e3f3ef4d_b.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/47/Jeunes_femmes_mayas.jpg/1280px-Jeunes_femmes_mayas.jpg
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1280xn/p05yrd3b.jpg
https://files.globalgiving.org/pfil/29867/ph_29867_108550.jpg?m=1506102093000
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/410/cpsprodpb/12ED7/production/_92272577_2658168e-2fcf-44b5-8035-69923017999e.jpg
https://www.paho.org/guy/images/stories/indigenous.jpg


As a Northern Russian I may have a Siberian admixture. I believe I have it because all Northern Russians have a Siberian admixture.

These two sisters claim to be of Komi, Russian and Nenets origin.

https://i.imgur.com/mmaMgtF.jpg


This girl has Russian surname but claims to be Nenets.

https://i.imgur.com/jFGzb3l.jpg


These girls have Nenets surnames but may have some Russian blood.

https://i.imgur.com/jiHYv9B.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6NwUD1Z.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/wrZyjTy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3oyc54G.jpg


For us Siberian admixture is not something alien. Actually NE Europe is one of the whitest parts of Europe and people with Siberian admixture pass as Aryan in continental Europe.
On the other hand Latin America is literally racial shit hole with its Amerindian admixture. Spanish users do not consider people with Amerindian blood as White. I consider Nenets, Khanty and Mansi as White people.

Ymyyakhtakh
01-07-2020, 10:27 AM
These Kickapoo and Blackfoot men both look like Mansi. (The Kickapoo area is mostly within the U.S. and partially in Mexico, but the Blackfoot area is in the U.S. and Canada.)

https://i.imgur.com/jMFQJLT.jpg
http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/edanmdm:siris_arc_15074
Babeshikit in Partial Native Dress with Ornaments and Holding Fan n.d - Kickapoo Indians

https://i.imgur.com/VjMiac5.jpg
Portrait (Front) of Nuo-Knit-Sta (Three Calves) in Partial Native Dress with Ornaments 1898 - Blackfoot
http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/edanmdm:siris_arc_9748

Compare the men above to this Mansi man:

https://i.imgur.com/NZkk4bh.jpg

This Atsina (Gros Ventre) girl looks like she's mixed with American or Canadian whites, but she also looks really Finno-Permic. (The Atsina area is divided between Canada and Montana.)

https://i.imgur.com/4nUeDth.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/GkC38OJ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jrrxmLY.jpg
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_5511 http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_5512 http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_5515

This Ojibwa man is probably also mixed with whites, but he looks like a Uralic caricature:

https://i.imgur.com/3GxCkeX.jpg
Portrait (Front) of Bashicta-Nogueb (High Up In The Sky), Called Charles Sucker, in Partial Native Dress with Ornaments FEB 1901 - Ojibwa
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_9937

Cree woman, also super-Uralische:

https://i.imgur.com/dx2Eldu.jpg
http://collections.si.edu/search/detail/ead_component:sova-naa-2010-28-ref2197

I feel like Uralic people have more in common with the boreal and subarctic tribes of Canada and the northern U.S., like Innu, Micmac, Ojibwa, Cree, Atsina, and Blackfoot.

The Blackfoot language even sounds just like Finnish: "Aamohka nitaayakitsinikatawahka kiaayaowahka ki omahka kipitakiwahka anistawa Ksistsikomaaki. Iitoisiyihk. Iiksipihtsi omii otsitotoispima miini."

Chris596
01-07-2020, 11:09 AM
I don't think so. At all. As previously said, siberians are usually much more light pigmented than latin-americans.

thenewestmember
01-07-2020, 11:24 AM
Most Siberians cannot pass anywhere outside Siberia.

Ymyyakhtakh
01-07-2020, 11:29 AM
I went through old photos of Native Americans (mostly North American) and West Siberians, I selected photos that were fairly high-quality and morphable, and I then made the morphs below of the persons who I thought looked the best.

The West Siberian morphs ended up having a wider face, lower palpebral fissure height, higher canthal tilt, and a shorter nose. Out of the female morphs, the West Siberian morph has a much lower root and bridge of the nose, and it also has a wider root of the nose.

The West Siberian morphs consist of 27 Khanty, 12 Nenets, 9 Ket, and 1 Selkup. The Native American morphs consist of 4 Navajo, 4 Dakota, 2 Ojibwa, 2 Pawnee, 2 Blackfoot, 2 Arapaho, 2 Apache, 2 Cherokee, 2 Assiniboine, 2 Chamacoco, 2 Oglala, 1 Chickasaw, 1 Kickapoo, 1 Jemez, 1 Tohono-O-Odham, 1 Nez-Perce, 1 Kiowa, 1 Choctaw, 1 Oto, 1 Modoc, and 1 Walla-Walla.

https://i.imgur.com/FBKVOsx.jpg


Most Siberians cannot pass anywhere outside Siberia.

Cannot Nenetses from Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug pass in Nenets Autonomous Okrug? Or cannot Siberian Komis pass in Komi Republic? Cannot Siberian Evenks pass as Chinese Evenks?

Buryats (who make up about a third of the indigenous population of Siberia) can pass in Mongolia at least.

Below are the population numbers of Siberian indigenous peoples listed in the 2010 census (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Ethnic_groups). Buryats, Yakuts, and Tuvans alone make up about 78% of the total population (1,393,374 out of 1,784,755). I think all three can usually pass as East Asian. They have little ANE admixture. Their linguistic ancestors arrived fairly recently from Inner Asia. Buryatia and Tuva are usually even considered to be part of Inner Asia, and both have historically been part of the East Asian (Chinese or Mongolian) sphere of influence.

(population;people;language group)
651355;Buryat;Mongolic
478085;Yakut;Northeastern Turkic
263934;Tuvan;Northeastern Turkic
74238;Altai;Northeastern Turkic
72959;Khakas;Northeastern Turkic
44640;Nenets;Uralic
37843;Evenk;Tungusic
30943;Khanty;Uralic
22383;Even;Tungusic
15908;Chukchi;Paleo-Siberian
12888;Shor;Northeastern Turkic
12269;Mansi;Uralic
12003;Nanai;Tungusic
7953;Koryak;Paleo-Siberian
7885;Dolgan;Northeastern Turkic
4652;Nivkh;Paleo-Siberian
3649;Selkup;Uralic
3608;Soyot;Mongolic
3193;Itelmen;Paleo-Siberian
2986;Khalkha Mongol;Mongolic
2892;Kumandin;Northeastern Turkic
2765;Ulch;Tungusic
2643;Teleut;Northeastern Turkic
1927;Kamchadal;Paleo-Siberian
1738;Eskimo;Eskimo-Aleut
1603;Yukaghir;Paleo-Siberian
1496;Udege;Tungusic
1219;Ket;Paleo-Siberian
1002;Chuvan;Paleo-Siberian
862;Nganasan;Uralic
762;Tofalar;Northeastern Turkic
596;Oroch;Tungusic
513;Negidal;Tungusic
482;Aleut;Eskimo-Aleut
355;Chulym;Northeastern Turkic
295;Orok;Tungusic
227;Enets;Uralic
4;Kerek;Paleo-Siberian

Speedy Freedy
01-08-2020, 12:13 AM
I went through old photos of Native Americans (mostly North American) and West Siberians, I selected photos that were fairly high-quality and morphable, and I then made the morphs below of the persons who I thought looked the best.

The West Siberian morphs ended up having a wider face, lower palpebral fissure height, higher canthal tilt, and a shorter nose. Out of the female morphs, the West Siberian morph has a much lower root and bridge of the nose, and it also has a wider root of the nose.

The West Siberian morphs consist of 27 Khanty, 12 Nenets, 9 Ket, and 1 Selkup. The Native American morphs consist of 4 Navajo, 4 Dakota, 2 Ojibwa, 2 Pawnee, 2 Blackfoot, 2 Arapaho, 2 Apache, 2 Cherokee, 2 Assiniboine, 2 Chamacoco, 2 Oglala, 1 Chickasaw, 1 Kickapoo, 1 Jemez, 1 Tohono-O-Odham, 1 Nez-Perce, 1 Kiowa, 1 Choctaw, 1 Oto, 1 Modoc, and 1 Walla-Walla.

https://i.imgur.com/FBKVOsx.jpg



Cannot Nenetses from Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug pass in Nenets Autonomous Okrug? Or cannot Siberian Komis pass in Komi Republic? Cannot Siberian Evenks pass as Chinese Evenks?

Buryats (who make up about a third of the indigenous population of Siberia) can pass in Mongolia at least.

Below are the population numbers of Siberian indigenous peoples listed in the 2010 census (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Russia#Ethnic_groups). Buryats, Yakuts, and Tuvans alone make up about 78% of the total population (1,393,374 out of 1,784,755). I think all three can usually pass as East Asian. They have little ANE admixture. Their linguistic ancestors arrived fairly recently from Inner Asia. Buryatia and Tuva are usually even considered to be part of Inner Asia, and both have historically been part of the East Asian (Chinese or Mongolian) sphere of influence.

(population;people;language group)
651355;Buryat;Mongolic
478085;Yakut;Northeastern Turkic
263934;Tuvan;Northeastern Turkic
74238;Altai;Northeastern Turkic
72959;Khakas;Northeastern Turkic
44640;Nenets;Uralic
37843;Evenk;Tungusic
30943;Khanty;Uralic
22383;Even;Tungusic
15908;Chukchi;Paleo-Siberian
12888;Shor;Northeastern Turkic
12269;Mansi;Uralic
12003;Nanai;Tungusic
7953;Koryak;Paleo-Siberian
7885;Dolgan;Northeastern Turkic
4652;Nivkh;Paleo-Siberian
3649;Selkup;Uralic
3608;Soyot;Mongolic
3193;Itelmen;Paleo-Siberian
2986;Khalkha Mongol;Mongolic
2892;Kumandin;Northeastern Turkic
2765;Ulch;Tungusic
2643;Teleut;Northeastern Turkic
1927;Kamchadal;Paleo-Siberian
1738;Eskimo;Eskimo-Aleut
1603;Yukaghir;Paleo-Siberian
1496;Udege;Tungusic
1219;Ket;Paleo-Siberian
1002;Chuvan;Paleo-Siberian
862;Nganasan;Uralic
762;Tofalar;Northeastern Turkic
596;Oroch;Tungusic
513;Negidal;Tungusic
482;Aleut;Eskimo-Aleut
355;Chulym;Northeastern Turkic
295;Orok;Tungusic
227;Enets;Uralic
4;Kerek;Paleo-Siberian

You should also mention Siberian Tatars.

Carlito's Way
01-08-2020, 04:48 AM
There are many Central Asians that can pass in Mexico, the ones you picked just can't except maybe these, the rest people would think they are chinese or be given nicknames such as El Chino aka The Chinese
the two guys on the left
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTEby25aqrp_ED-Ge7RhCT3HhjpPAz-6N5PkeIAmVFO2VrsUDcr

Erronkari
01-08-2020, 05:24 AM
I wonder if this bolivian midfielder Alejandro Chumacero could pass among some siberian individuals or even some central-asian ones.
He is a sort of extremely depigmented (even his hair is like blonde/gingerish) Balanced Mestizo.
And the most rare is that at least when I was in Bolivia I don't remember to seen someone alike him...
At least not with those caraceristics....
Of course you can see blondes and very light skinned people in Bolivia, but very different to him.
For that reason I am thinking about this possibility if he could fit among those folks in remote lands...

https://i.imgur.com/O53x9vs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FV7vEXX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o9vKWxy.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ur21rDA.jpg

Ymyyakhtakh
01-08-2020, 05:48 AM
You should also mention Siberian Tatars.

They weren't listed as a distinct ethnicity on the Wikipedia page where I copied those population figures from (I'm not sure about the original census data). For the same reason, my list is missing the Komis who live in Siberia.

Speedy Freedy
01-08-2020, 10:57 PM
They weren't listed as a distinct ethnicity on the Wikipedia page where I copied those population figures from (I'm not sure about the original census data). For the same reason, my list is missing the Komis who live in Siberia.

Siberian Tatars were included in the census 2010 as a separate ethnicity. I think that unlike the Siberian Tatars, Komis aren't indigenous to Siberia, albeit they too are living there.

Maguzanci
01-09-2020, 12:49 AM
There are many Central Asians that can pass in Mexico, the ones you picked just can't except maybe these, the rest people would think they are chinese or be given nicknames such as El Chino aka The Chinese
the two guys on the left
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTEby25aqrp_ED-Ge7RhCT3HhjpPAz-6N5PkeIAmVFO2VrsUDcr

What about Siberiana? So if you resemle.Chinese you would not pass in Mexico?

Iroczor
01-21-2020, 05:38 AM
Central Asians kinda cuz of their caucasic admixture. However I don’t know if Siberians can pass. Most of them are too Asian to pass as one. They have a lot of similarities with northern amerindians from Canada and northern USA such as the Sioux or the Navajo.

Maguzanci
01-22-2020, 01:22 AM
Central Asians kinda cuz of their caucasic admixture. However I don’t know if Siberians can pass. Most of them are too Asian to pass as one. They have a lot of similarities with northern amerindians from Canada and northern USA such as the Sioux or the Navajo.

"Kinda" means they can sort of pass but would be pretty atypical and look out of place?

Some more Central Asians. Would they pass?
https://i.imgur.com/j2E9kpR.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/FABYoFu.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/SSmEjaI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/umAGfRr.jpg
Most Siberians would be mistaken as Korean, Chinese in Latin America or are even too extreme to be mistaken as those?

I also think Northern Amerindians and Navajo can look very Siberian/NE Asian.