Serbian and Belarusian MyTrueAncestry deep dive

[vbnetkhio]

Serbian
https://i.imgur.com/nsnB3YD.png
no Asia

Belarisian:
https://i.imgur.com/fY7pnso.png
https://i.imgur.com/3bDNt6S.png

[Bosniensis]

No Rome for Belarus.

[vbnetkhio]

No Rome for Belarus.

there is some Vatya


Kit F999944

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.93
2 North_Atlantic 33.71
3 West_Med 20.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 11.16
2 Ukrainian 11.97
3 South_Polish 12.31
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.91
5 Estonian_Polish 13.15
6 Russian_Smolensk 13.4
7 Estonian 13.78
8 Belorussian 13.81
9 Southwest_Finnish 14.17
10 Lithuanian 15.03
11 Southwest_Russian 15.39
12 East_German 15.69
13 Croatian 15.84
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.11
15 Finnish 16.18
16 Kargopol_Russian 16.67
17 East_Finnish 17.51
18 North_Swedish 17.93
19 Hungarian 18.12
20 Austrian 18.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.7% Lithuanian + 24.3% French_Basque @ 7.39
2 70.9% Lithuanian + 29.1% Southwest_French @ 8.08
3 82.7% Estonian + 17.3% Sardinian @ 8.47
4 72.6% Lithuanian + 27.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.73
5 80.6% Estonian_Polish + 19.4% French_Basque @ 8.86
6 81.1% Lithuanian + 18.9% Sardinian @ 8.93
7 74.9% Lithuanian + 25.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.97
8 79.8% Estonian + 20.2% French_Basque @ 9.27
9 75% Estonian + 25% Southwest_French @ 9.27
10 74.5% Lithuanian + 25.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.34
11 80% Belorussian + 20% French_Basque @ 9.42
12 80.9% Russian_Smolensk + 19.1% French_Basque @ 9.44
13 87.3% Polish + 12.7% French_Basque @ 9.48
14 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 9.54
15 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.62
16 73% Lithuanian + 27% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.65
17 73.9% Lithuanian + 26.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.66
18 73.4% Lithuanian + 26.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.67
19 77.4% Estonian_Polish + 22.6% Southwest_French @ 9.69
20 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.73

nobody talks much about this sample because of the extremely pure results, but it's actually a high quality sample(100k snps)

[Cumansky]

What is point to compare these two individuals?

[Cumansky]

there is some Vatya


Kit F999944

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.93
2 North_Atlantic 33.71
3 West_Med 20.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 11.16
2 Ukrainian 11.97
3 South_Polish 12.31
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.91
5 Estonian_Polish 13.15
6 Russian_Smolensk 13.4
7 Estonian 13.78
8 Belorussian 13.81
9 Southwest_Finnish 14.17
10 Lithuanian 15.03
11 Southwest_Russian 15.39
12 East_German 15.69
13 Croatian 15.84
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.11
15 Finnish 16.18
16 Kargopol_Russian 16.67
17 East_Finnish 17.51
18 North_Swedish 17.93
19 Hungarian 18.12
20 Austrian 18.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.7% Lithuanian + 24.3% French_Basque @ 7.39
2 70.9% Lithuanian + 29.1% Southwest_French @ 8.08
3 82.7% Estonian + 17.3% Sardinian @ 8.47
4 72.6% Lithuanian + 27.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.73
5 80.6% Estonian_Polish + 19.4% French_Basque @ 8.86
6 81.1% Lithuanian + 18.9% Sardinian @ 8.93
7 74.9% Lithuanian + 25.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.97
8 79.8% Estonian + 20.2% French_Basque @ 9.27
9 75% Estonian + 25% Southwest_French @ 9.27
10 74.5% Lithuanian + 25.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.34
11 80% Belorussian + 20% French_Basque @ 9.42
12 80.9% Russian_Smolensk + 19.1% French_Basque @ 9.44
13 87.3% Polish + 12.7% French_Basque @ 9.48
14 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 9.54
15 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.62
16 73% Lithuanian + 27% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.65
17 73.9% Lithuanian + 26.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.66
18 73.4% Lithuanian + 26.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.67
19 77.4% Estonian_Polish + 22.6% Southwest_French @ 9.69
20 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.73

nobody talks much about this sample because of the extremely pure results, but it's actually a high quality sample(100k snps)

Thracian mixed Slav

[Cumansky]

there is some Vatya


Kit F999944

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 45.93
2 North_Atlantic 33.71
3 West_Med 20.35

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish 11.16
2 Ukrainian 11.97
3 South_Polish 12.31
4 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.91
5 Estonian_Polish 13.15
6 Russian_Smolensk 13.4
7 Estonian 13.78
8 Belorussian 13.81
9 Southwest_Finnish 14.17
10 Lithuanian 15.03
11 Southwest_Russian 15.39
12 East_German 15.69
13 Croatian 15.84
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 16.11
15 Finnish 16.18
16 Kargopol_Russian 16.67
17 East_Finnish 17.51
18 North_Swedish 17.93
19 Hungarian 18.12
20 Austrian 18.15

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.7% Lithuanian + 24.3% French_Basque @ 7.39
2 70.9% Lithuanian + 29.1% Southwest_French @ 8.08
3 82.7% Estonian + 17.3% Sardinian @ 8.47
4 72.6% Lithuanian + 27.4% Spanish_Cantabria @ 8.73
5 80.6% Estonian_Polish + 19.4% French_Basque @ 8.86
6 81.1% Lithuanian + 18.9% Sardinian @ 8.93
7 74.9% Lithuanian + 25.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 8.97
8 79.8% Estonian + 20.2% French_Basque @ 9.27
9 75% Estonian + 25% Southwest_French @ 9.27
10 74.5% Lithuanian + 25.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.34
11 80% Belorussian + 20% French_Basque @ 9.42
12 80.9% Russian_Smolensk + 19.1% French_Basque @ 9.44
13 87.3% Polish + 12.7% French_Basque @ 9.48
14 74.4% Lithuanian + 25.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 9.54
15 75.5% Lithuanian + 24.5% Spanish_Andalucia @ 9.62
16 73% Lithuanian + 27% Spanish_Galicia @ 9.65
17 73.9% Lithuanian + 26.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.66
18 73.4% Lithuanian + 26.6% Spanish_Cataluna @ 9.67
19 77.4% Estonian_Polish + 22.6% Southwest_French @ 9.69
20 76.7% Estonian + 23.3% Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.73

nobody talks much about this sample because of the extremely pure results, but it's actually a high quality sample(100k snps)

"Poland in antiquity is characterized by peoples belonging to numerous archeological cultures living in and migrating through various parts of the territory that now constitutes Poland in an era that dates from about 400 BC to 450–500 AD. These people are identified as Slavic, Celtic, Germanic, Baltic, Thracian, Avar, and Scythian tribes. Other groups, difficult to identify, were most likely also present, as ethnic composition of archeological cultures is often poorly recognized. While lacking use of a written language to any appreciable degree, many of them developed relatively advanced material culture and social organization, as evidenced by the archeological record, for example judged by the presence of richly furnished, dynastic "princely" graves. Characteristic of the period was high geographical migration rate of large groups of people, even equivalents of today's nations.[1] This article covers the continuation of the Iron Age (see Bronze and Iron Age Poland), the La Tène and Roman influence and Migration periods. La Tène period is subdivided into La Tène A, 450 to 400 BC; La Tène B, 400 to 250 BC; La Tène C, 250 to 150 BC; La Tène D, 150 to 0 BC. 400 to 200 BC is also considered the early pre-Roman period[2] and 200 to 0 BC the younger pre-Roman period (A). It was followed by the period of Roman influence, of which the early stage had lasted from 0 to 150 AD (0–80 B1, 80–150 B2), and the late stage from 150 to 375 AD (150–250 C1, 250–300 C2, 300–375 C3). 375 to 500 AD constituted the (pre-Slavic) Migration Period (D and E).[3]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland_in_antiquity

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[vbnetkhio]

What is point to compare these two individuals?

i sometimes wonder what's the point of life

[Cumansky]

i sometimes wonder what's the point of life

MyTrueAncestry is not valid proof of ancient DNA just another western propaganda, atleast they know my ancestor from Avar Khaganate

[Dick]

Who or what exactly was the vatya sample?

[vbnetkhio]

Who or what exactly was the vatya sample?

there isn't much info. the study where it was tested is locked behind a paywall.

[Dick]

there isn't much info. the study where it was tested is locked behind a paywall.

I wonder why. Is the sample on gedmatch?

[vbnetkhio]

I wonder why. Is the sample on gedmatch?

F999944

[Dick]

F999944

That's what you posted. Add some Byzantine spice to it and you'll get a south slav

[vbnetkhio]

albanian:


https://i.postimg.cc/zBnMhz1F/mag3.png

[Dušan]

Belarisian:
https://i.imgur.com/fY7pnso.png


Now I understand why I get some Viking Sweden in mixed MyTrueAncestry.

https://i.imgur.com/XogEt83.jpg

If Belarusian got it, its obviously Slavic.

[vbnetkhio]

Now I understand why I get some Viking Sweden in mixed MyTrueAncestry.

https://i.imgur.com/XogEt83.jpg

If Belarusian got it, its obviously Slavic.

that's not mixed mode. those are the "ethnicities" of your top 20 (or 50, idk) matches. not deep dive matches, regular ones

[Dušan]

that's not mixed mode. those are the "ethnicities" of your top 20 (or 50, idk) matches. not deep dive matches, regular ones

Thanks, I didn't know that.

[Dušan]

Serbian
https://i.imgur.com/nsnB3YD.png



Comparation with mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Wum1NEM.jpeg


1) Ancient Greece instead of Italy
2) Slavs in Eastern Germany (Krakauer Berg Peissen)
3) some Slavic samples captured by Vikings


Maybe these samples are added recently and this person would get them in updated result, too.

[vbnetkhio]

Comparation with mine:

https://i.imgur.com/Wum1NEM.jpeg


1) Ancient Greece instead of Italy
2) Slavs in Eastern Germany (Krakauer Berg Peissen)
3) some Slavic samples captured by Vikings


Maybe these samples are added recently and this person would get them in updated result, too.

Yes, those studies hadn't yet come out back then.

[Dušan]

Yes, those studies hadn't yet come out back then.

With this strong matching with Krakauer samples, seems that DAI and Constantine VII was right about existence of white Serbs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Serbia) in todays eastern Germany, who settled in Balkans. :)

[Ion Basescul]

there isn't much info. the study where it was tested is locked behind a paywall.

https://sci-hub.se/