Class/Pass FountainOfSalmacis.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

I did this same thread about 10 months ago and I wanted to see if some new people could state their opinion.

https://imgur.com/a/WNt89Ph

[Duffmannn]

Pan-North West Europe.

UK, Ireland, Benelux, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Austria, Switzerland and in a minor extense Italy, Spain, Portugal.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Pan-North West Europe.

UK, Ireland, Benelux, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Austria, Switzerland and in a minor extense Italy, Spain, Portugal.
Thanks for your input. You wouldn’t see me passing a bit in balkans, eastern euro?

[Duffmannn]

Thanks for your input. You wouldn’t see me passing a bit in balkans, eastern euro?

Yes, but your pheno is very western I would say.

Poland, Czechia, Slovakia, Hungary, Slovenia... basically countries bordering west Europe.

[Zuh]

Geneticamente eres castizo sino me equivoco verdad?.


Toda europe mi opinion.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Geneticamente eres castizo sino me equivoco verdad?.


Toda europe mi opinion.

Al parecer soy 85% caucasico y 15% amerindio. Eurogenes me da 16% amerindio + siberiano y el resto europeo + un poco de asia occidental.

[Erronkari]

North Atlantid with Baltid and probably Gorid.
You look pan central-northern European.

[Kivan]

Borreby + Alpinid.

Pass best in Central Europe, but passable in many regions.

[Tooting Carmen]

Pan-Western Euro

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Borreby + Alpinid.

Pass best in Central Europe, but passable in many regions.

Do you think I would pass commonly in some Turkish regions?

[Kivan]

Do you think I would pass commonly in some Turkish regions?

In Western and Northern regions of the country is not rare to find people who resemble you.
You wouldn't be out of place among these people, in my opinion:
https://abload.de/img/dturnhmxcaacjvy6xjp8.jpg
https://abload.de/img/1492518840_whatsapp-tej1m.jpeg

[alnortedelsur]

Not sure how to classify you, but I think you look kind of central Euro, but could also reasonably pass through most of Europe, from British Isles to Greece and From Spain to Russia.

[Celestia]

Alpine.
As others have stated you look Pan-European. North-West Europe to Central Europe, Plus Iberia.

[Zroota]

Brunn + Alpine

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Thanks to everyone. I guess I should change my profile to Pan-Euro

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.59
2 North_Sea 14.93
3 East_Med 14.63
4 Amerindian. 14.03
5 West_Med 12.96
6 Baltic 10.16
7 Eastern_Euro 6.76
8 Siberian 2.28
9 West_Asian 2.03
10 Oceanian 0.76
11 Red_Sea 0.41
12 South_Asian 0.36
13 Sub-Saharan 0.11

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 84.21
2 E_Eurasian 15.79

[Rocinante]

Pues tienes el mismo color de cabello, barba y piel que tengo yo jajaja. Pareces del centro de Europa. Alpinid+Balto-Nordid

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Pues tienes el mismo color de cabello, barba y piel que tengo yo jajaja. Pareces del centro de Europa. Alpinid+Balto-Nordid

Segun tu una pinta mas eslava o occidental ?

[Rocinante]

Segun tu una pinta mas eslava o occidental ?

Más occidental

[alnortedelsur]

Pues tienes el mismo color de cabello, barba y piel que tengo yo jajaja. Pareces del centro de Europa. Alpinid+Balto-Nordid

Hahaha... pues ya somos tres. Aunque en mi caso tengo ojos azules.

[Rocinante]

Hahaha... pues ya somos tres. Aunque en mi caso tengo ojos azules.

Aunque tu fenotipo es mas claro todavía a mí parecer, de hecho, más que pasar como español, como lo es tu mamá por ejemplo, pasas mejor en el norte de Europa, sin especificar si occidental o oriental. Es a mi parecer ojo.

[Aldaris]

Pan-Euro indeed. Happens to mixed fellows more often than not.

[Voyt]

You look like Post-Malone
I would say Borreby+Med

[alnortedelsur]

Aunque tu fenotipo es mas claro todavía a mí parecer, de hecho, más que pasar como español, como lo es tu mamá por ejemplo, pasas mejor en el norte de Europa, sin especificar si occidental o oriental. Es a mi parecer ojo.

hahaha... en serio? nah... es cierto que soy claro, pero gente como Donald Trump, Leven Rambin o Conan O'brien son todavía bastante mas pálidos que yo, hahaha.

No dudo que puedo pasar desapercibido en gran parte de Europa, pero también encajo bien en el sur de Europa, que como bien sabes, toda mi sangre Europea es del sur de Europa (principalmente Española, mas alguna ascendencia Italiana distante). Yo diría que mi pigmentación encaja más en el promedio Francés y Centro-Europeo, aunque tampoco es algo fuera de lo común en España.

[HelloGuys]

Al parecer soy 85% caucasico y 15% amerindio. Eurogenes me da 16% amerindio + siberiano y el resto europeo + un poco de asia occidental.

Verch, no estaba tan mal jajaja en tu thread antiguo dije (Inferí) que podrías ser 88% Euro y el resto amerindio xD no me equivoqué tanto jaja


En mi opinión eres criollo

[Rocinante]

hahaha... en serio? nah... es cierto que soy claro, pero gente como Donald Trump, Leven Rambin o Conan O'brien son todavía bastante mas pálidos que yo, hahaha.

No dudo que puedo pasar desapercibido en gran parte de Europa, pero también encajo bien en el sur de Europa, que como bien sabes, toda mi sangre Europea es del sur de Europa (principalmente Española, mas alguna ascendencia Italiana distante). Yo diría que mi pigmentación encaja más en el promedio Francés y Centro-Europeo, aunque tampoco es algo fuera de lo común en España.

Exacto, a eso me refería compa. Pasas por toda Europa prácticamente.

[alnortedelsur]

Exacto, a eso me refería compa. Pasas por toda Europa prácticamente.

Igual que FountainOfSalamis, y seguramente tu :)

[Rocinante]

Igual que FountainOfSalamis, y seguramente tu :)

Yo creo que paso por el suroeste de Europa y ya, que si España, Portugal, Italia, Sur de Francia. Posiblemente suba unas fotos pronto a ver que tal.

[Wolfdog]

Borreby/Alpine + Atlantid/AtlantoMed

You look panEuro I guess

[alnortedelsur]

Yo creo que paso por el suroeste de Europa y ya, que si España, Portugal, Italia, Sur de Francia. Posiblemente suba unas fotos pronto a ver que tal.

Yo tambien solia creer que mas que nada en el suroeste de Europa, hasta que viviendo aqui en USA he notado que paso fácilmente inadvertido entre los blancos de aqui (que un montón de gente no son super palidas como Trump, sino en muchísimos casos, mas o menos como yo). Y luego cuando mucha gente en este foro, y en la vida real me han dicho que parezco Ruso o me han confundido con ruso me he quedao :eek:

Pero en fin... yo estoy seguro que si cualquier antropólogo experto estudia mis facciones con lupa terminaria detectando vibra Ibérica, eso seguro :D

De hecho, me parezco bastante a mi mama.

[WeirdLookingFellow]

Pan-Euro imo, at least based on the one picture. You would pass in Romania as well, your face doesn't scream W. European.

[PaleoEuropean]

Pan-North West Europe.

UK, Ireland, Benelux, France, Germany, Scandinavia, Austria, Switzerland and in a minor extense Italy, Spain, Portugal.

Alpine?

[anaise]

Very Alpine. Pan-European.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Verch, no estaba tan mal jajaja en tu thread antiguo dije (Inferí) que podrías ser 88% Euro y el resto amerindio xD no me equivoqué tanto jaja


En mi opinión eres criollo
Fue una buena estimacion! Yo tambien pensaba en cifras parecidas, talvez salio un poco mas amerindio de lo que esperaba.

[alnortedelsur]

Fue una buena estimacion! Yo tambien pensaba en cifras parecidas, talvez salio un poco mas amerindio de lo que esperaba.

Felicidades! Con que compania te testeaste? Abriste ya un hilo con tus resultados?

[Lafaur]

Borreby-ish

[Synapsid]

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 20.59
2 North_Sea 14.93
3 East_Med 14.63
4 Amerindian. 14.03
5 West_Med 12.96
6 Baltic 10.16
7 Eastern_Euro 6.76
8 Siberian 2.28
9 West_Asian 2.03
10 Oceanian 0.76
11 Red_Sea 0.41
12 South_Asian 0.36
13 Sub-Saharan 0.11

Eurasia K3 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 84.21
2 E_Eurasian 15.79

Siberian and parts of Baltic should feed into Amerindian. Native American have significant west Eurasian also, so Amerindian should subtract around 5% in West Eurasian part of the #Population Percent. That make you close to 17-20% Native American.

[Adamastor]

Siberian and parts of Baltic should feed into Amerindian. Native American have significant west Eurasian also, so Amerindian should subtract around 5% in West Eurasian part of the #Population Percent. That make you close to 17-20% Native American.

Siberian, yes, Baltic, no. No Amerindians score Baltic and some Europeans score more than 2-3% of East Eurasian in the K3 calculator and even small bits of Siberian and Amerindian. This guy is likely 14-15% Amerindian.

I'm repeating this here for generations, GEDmatch calculators aren't the best way to calculate percentages for mixed Latin Americans, they open too much room for noise levels above 1-2%.

[FountainOfSalmacis]

23andme has me at 15.5% native american and siberian, 78% euro, 2% west asian and the rest is unassigned. I think my Baltic score is from my significant Croatian ancestry. I’m most likely between 16-17% amerindian. Also what’s up with the Oceanian?

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Siberian, yes, Baltic, no. No Amerindians score Baltic and some Europeans score more than 2-3% of East Eurasian in the K3 calculator and even small bits of Siberian and Amerindian. This guy is likely 14-15% Amerindian.

I'm repeating this here for generations, GEDmatch calculators aren't the best way to calculate percentages for mixed Latin Americans, they open too much room for noise levels above 1-2%.
Thank you. What do you think is best for new worlders?

[Adamastor]

23andme has me at 15.5% native american and siberian,

So that's likely what you have, ignore GEDmatch calculators to calculate these things in absolute numbers, they ascribe Siberian and Amerindian in small quantities to many Europeans, what would increase your percentage.

[Adamastor]

Thank you. What do you think is best for new worlders?

Commercial tests and G25, maybe nMonte. Upload your raw data to ''yourdnaportal'', they have a nMonte oracle there, better than GEDmatch IMO. Davidski himself says so.

[Erronkari]

So that's likely what you have, ignore GEDmatch calculators to calculate these things in absolute numbers, they ascribe Siberian and Amerindian in small quantities to many Europeans, what would increase your percentage.

Totally agree!!
Finally someone tells the truth about some ambiguos residuals of Gedmatch which are just noise (sometimes even more than 1% of mistake margin).

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Totally agree!!
Finally someone tells the truth about some ambiguos residuals of Gedmatch which are just noise (sometimes even more that 1% of mistake margin).
I’m quite baffled at this 0.76 oceanian. This is probably noise.

[Adamastor]

Totally agree!!
Finally someone tells the truth about some ambiguos residuals of Gedmatch which are just noise (sometimes even more that 1% of mistake margin).

Some GEDmatch calcs have ridiculous results. In the K3 these are some European members of the forum:

Swedish Snvekes:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 94.59
2 E_Eurasian 5.41

Portuguese Pedro Ruben:

# Population Percent
1 W_Eurasian 89.97
2 SSA 7.55
3 E_Eurasian 2.48

For Latin Americans these calculators only give distortion.

[Synapsid]

Siberian, yes, Baltic, no. No Amerindians score Baltic and some Europeans score more than 2-3% of East Eurasian in the K3 calculator and even small bits of Siberian and Amerindian. This guy is likely 14-15% Amerindian.

I'm repeating this here for generations, GEDmatch calculators aren't the best way to calculate percentages for mixed Latin Americans, they open too much room for noise levels above 1-2%.

I said parts, not all. Look at Kennewick and Anzick-1 gedmatch results.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215145-Some-gedmatch-results-of-Amerindians-using-certain-calculators

[Adamastor]

I said parts, not all. Look at Kennewick and Anzick-1 gedmatch results.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?215145-Some-gedmatch-results-of-Amerindians-using-certain-calculators

These are archaic samples and GEDmatch sucks to calculate archaic humans. They ascribe 90% SSA to Neanderthals. Of course it's not true SSA, but most people uninformed about the subject would think Neanderthals were like modern SSAs by looking at GEDmatch results.

Most Amerindians seem to score only Amerindian and Siberian in GEDmatch.

[Adamastor]

double

[Synapsid]

double

They not that archaic (you cannot compare Anzick-1 to Dinosevans, there is difference between low coverage and archaic). They still Score mostly Amerind and Siberians, but they have noticeable East Euro which is in line about our knowledge about ANS (Yana), MA-1/ANE, EHG, Steppe_Eneolithic

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Pan-Euro imo, at least based on the one picture. You would pass in Romania as well, your face doesn't scream W. European.

There’s actually 5 pictures. My weight also might be a factor on the pheno.

[Adamastor]

They not that archaic (you cannot compare Anzick-1 to Dinosevans, there is difference between low coverage and archaic). They still Score mostly Amerind and Siberians, but they have noticeable East Euro which is in line about our knowledge about ANS (Yana), MA-1/ANE, EHG, Steppe_Eneolithic

Whatever, but a calculator that ascribe 10% non-Caucasoid to a Portuguese (with 7.5% SSA!) isn't reliable for a mixed Latin American.

[Synapsid]

Whatever, but a calculator that ascribe 10% non-Caucasoid to a Portuguese (with 7.5% SSA!) isn't reliable for a mixed Latin American.

Huh? Yeah that calculator is definitely broken. I don't where they conjured up that amount of SSA in unadmixed portuguese.