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Illyrius
01-09-2020, 04:33 PM
Opinions, facts?

Bosniensis
01-09-2020, 04:34 PM
We are Scythians (Slavs) so yes.

Blondie
01-09-2020, 04:37 PM
Yes before the turkics have conquered and mongrelized them.

pulstar
01-09-2020, 04:37 PM
Opinions, facts?

Green, they were green with big black eyes.

Nurzat
01-09-2020, 04:38 PM
I ran the ancient Scythians in the Global25 coords sheet on vahaduo with my Europa v3 model:

Target: Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA:I0576
Distance: 7.1679% / 0.07167884
43.4 Finnic
42.0 TurkoMongol
7.8 Indian
4.0 American
2.2 Caucasian
0.6 African

Target: Scythian_Aldy_Bel_IA:I0577
Distance: 6.2998% / 0.06299776
58.8 Finnic
18.8 TurkoMongol
11.6 Caucasian
5.8 American
5.0 Indian

Target: Scythian_HUN: DA191
Distance: 3.0402% / 0.03040214
36.2 BaltoSlavic
25.4 Atlantic
22.4 Finnic
15.4 CeltoGermanic
0.6 African

Target: Scythian_HUN: DA194
Distance: 3.5514% / 0.03551449
40.2 BaltoSlavic
27.4 Atlantic
23.2 CeltoGermanic
8.6 Finnic
0.6 American

Target: Scythian_HUN: DA195
Distance: 2.3625% / 0.02362545
40.4 Balkan
28.0 BaltoSlavic
19.4 Atlantic
5.6 CeltoGermanic
4.6 Levantine
1.2 American
0.6 African
0.2 Indian

Target: Scythian_HUN: DA197
Distance: 2.2608% / 0.02260779
49.2 BaltoSlavic
27.8 Atlantic
12.6 CeltoGermanic
7.4 Balkan
2.2 Caucasian
0.6 African
0.2 American

Target: Scythian_HUN: DA198
Distance: 3.3005% / 0.03300539
64.6 Balkan
26.6 Atlantic
6.8 CeltoGermanic
2.0 Arabic

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy192
Distance: 2.7030% / 0.02702966
41.6 Balkan
25.8 Atlantic
14.8 Caucasian
11.8 Finnic
5.4 Levantine
0.6 American

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy197
Distance: 2.8983% / 0.02898312
66.2 Balkan
22.0 Atlantic
7.2 CeltoGermanic
3.2 Caucasian
1.4 TurkoMongol

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy300
Distance: 2.8972% / 0.02897210
41.2 Balkan
24.0 Atlantic
18.2 Levantine
12.4 CeltoGermanic
2.0 Finnic
1.8 American
0.4 Arabic

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy301
Distance: 3.0844% / 0.03084370
35.2 CeltoGermanic
22.6 Balkan
19.4 Caucasian
11.4 BaltoSlavic
5.8 TurkoMongol
2.6 American
2.2 Levantine
0.4 African
0.4 Indian

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy305
Distance: 2.4726% / 0.02472629
63.0 Balkan
13.2 CeltoGermanic
9.0 Levantine
8.2 Atlantic
3.0 Caucasian
1.6 Indian
1.0 American
1.0 TurkoMongol

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy311
Distance: 3.5306% / 0.03530608
40.8 CeltoGermanic
30.2 Balkan
11.8 Levantine
8.6 Caucasian
3.8 TurkoMongol
2.6 American
2.2 Indian

Target: Scythian_RUS_Urals:MJ42
Distance: 6.0574% / 0.06057442
35.6 Finnic
25.6 TurkoMongol
15.6 CeltoGermanic
11.4 Caucasian
5.0 American
5.0 Indian
1.8 African

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ13
Distance: 3.4282% / 0.03428157
33.8 BaltoSlavic
25.2 CeltoGermanic
22.0 Finnic
12.4 Caucasian
3.4 Levantine
1.8 American
1.4 African

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ14
Distance: 4.1251% / 0.04125126
68.0 BaltoSlavic
22.4 Balkan
6.4 Caucasian
2.0 Papuan
1.2 Indian

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ15
Distance: 5.6489% / 0.05648945
57.2 Finnic
24.4 Caucasian
6.4 American
6.2 TurkoMongol
5.6 Indian
0.2 CeltoGermanic

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ16
Distance: 3.8295% / 0.03829535
29.4 CeltoGermanic
22.2 Finnic
17.8 Caucasian
17.0 BaltoSlavic
7.2 Indian
4.8 TurkoMongol
1.0 African
0.4 Papuan
0.2 American

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ34
Distance: 2.7814% / 0.02781445
28.6 CeltoGermanic
28.2 Finnic
19.6 Caucasian
9.6 BaltoSlavic
8.0 Levantine
2.0 TurkoMongol
1.8 Indian
1.4 American
0.4 African
0.4 Papuan

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ35
Distance: 5.0000% / 0.04999974
29.2 BaltoSlavic
22.6 CeltoGermanic
17.8 Caucasian
13.0 Finnic
7.0 Indian
6.0 Levantine
4.0 TurkoMongol
0.4 African

Target: Scythian_UKR:MJ46
Distance: 3.3594% / 0.03359381
51.4 CeltoGermanic
23.0 Caucasian
9.2 Finnic
5.8 TurkoMongol
5.6 Indian
3.6 American
1.2 BaltoSlavic
0.2 African

Target: Scythian_UKR:scy009
Distance: 2.4430% / 0.02442957
63.6 BaltoSlavic
18.2 Atlantic
15.6 CeltoGermanic
1.8 Caucasian
0.8 African

Target: Scythian_UKR:scy010
Distance: 3.9610% / 0.03960997
32.2 BaltoSlavic
31.8 CeltoGermanic
25.6 Balkan
5.6 Atlantic
1.8 African
1.6 Caucasian
1.4 American

Target: Scythian_UKR:scy011
Distance: 3.7818% / 0.03781790
34.0 BaltoSlavic
33.4 Caucasian
21.2 CeltoGermanic
7.6 TurkoMongol
2.0 American
1.8 African

Target: Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA:IS2
Distance: 5.7094% / 0.05709448
34.4 Finnic
18.8 CeltoGermanic
17.2 Caucasian
16.0 TurkoMongol
8.2 Indian
5.4 American

Target: Scythian_Zevakino_Chilikta_IA:Ze6b
Distance: 6.3264% / 0.06326381
43.4 TurkoMongol
18.6 Finnic
17.6 Caucasian
10.2 CeltoGermanic
4.4 Indian
4.2 American
1.0 African
0.6 Papuan

the model:

BaltoSlavic:Latvian,0.1354494,0.122473,0.0887742,0 .089471,0.043208,0.0340246,0.0125966,0.0140762,-0.002168,-0.0368842,-0.0035728,-0.0138178,0.0232208,0.031378,-0.010559,0.0040572,0.0027118,-0.0003802,0.0016088,0.0043022,-0.0027952,-0.0057128,0.0090708,-0.0093264,0.0026346
CeltoGermanic:Irish,0.1334042,0.134875,0.0610876,0 .0482532,0.0383388,0.0188992,0.003,0.0047738,0.003 1318,0.002725,-0.00714,0.005606,-0.0143759,-0.0139278,0.0253478,0.0048208,-0.0110725,0.0022052,0.0007502,0.0013385,0.0051745, 0.0012249,-0.0003563,0.0147667,0.0010665
Finnic:Finnish_East,0.1265711,0.0754538,0.0952229, 0.0812991,0.0279127,0.0239846,0.0090243,0.0163608, 0.0052153,-0.0301419,0.0047905,-0.008887,0.0185082,0.005725,0.0008008,-0.0028109,-0.0050329,-0.0003168,-0.0020741,0.0054275,0.0088094,0.0012738,0.0022678, 0.0049162,0.0044066
Atlantic:Sardinian,0.1206524,0.1679686,0.0276806,-0.0515508,0.0603188,-0.0224786,-0.003478,0.004292,0.0427048,0.0798558,-0.0020784,0.0158856,-0.0270266,-0.0131842,-0.0132192,-0.004614,0.0120476,-0.0013176,0.0017596,-0.012931,-0.0050908,-0.0042044,-0.0097122,-0.021087,0.0008382
Balkan:Albanian,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.0155562,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279, 0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
Caucasian:Georgian_Imer,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
Levantine:Lebanese_Christian,0.0881496,0.1457849,-0.0488581,-0.0788479,-0.0128912,-0.03074,-0.0004961,-0.0042818,0.0051812,0.0102254,0.0066579,-0.0045293,0.0103899,0,-0.0103147,0.0084709,-0.0021007,0.0017877,0.0025419,-0.0001251,0.0007627,-0.0003022,-0.0014104,0.0023564,-0.0012108
Arabic:BedouinB,0.041925,0.1439232,-0.0598156,-0.1169808,-0.0093179,-0.0480622,-0.0141008,-0.0087432,0.05154,-0.0052038,0.0158689,-0.0305729,0.0629496,0.004855,0.0043959,0.0288529,-0.0199706,0.00366,-0.0040153,0.029,0.0109668,0.0152299,-0.0039166,0.0071025,-0.0083092
TurkoMongol:Negidal,0.0284557,-0.452249,0.0951603,-0.0383293,-0.0806307,-0.051223,0.013239,0.017153,0.0124077,0.013121,-0.011367,0.0012987,-0.005352,-0.0012847,-0.011084,-0.0079553,-0.0012603,0.0119933,0.0246787,0.0187593,0.0181763,-0.0383323,-0.0137627,0.0115677,0.003393
American:Karitiana,0.0588087,-0.320061,0.1183532,0.1083675,-0.1136622,-0.0136192,-0.3230612,-0.382484,-0.0153735,-0.017343,0.0009473,-0.0026975,-0.0016352,0.0273182,-0.0045692,0.0044197,0.0110175,0.002597,0.0001047,-0.0003543,-0.0055318,0.010902,-0.005546,-0.0025303,-0.0067858
Indian:Paniya,0.0085637,-0.1650478,-0.1863694,0.1380143,-0.048683,0.0526173,-0.0055841,0.0167904,0.0864746,0.0548009,0.0048639, 0.0002854,-0.0030087,0.0140964,-0.0226783,-0.0274207,0.0106108,-0.0005973,-0.0033041,0.0280373,0.0073857,0.0130011,-0.0094138,0.0062888,-0.0075499
Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
African:Bantu_Kenya,-0.599848,0.064994,0.014331,0.01292,0.004308,0.0064 14,-0.009635,0.028845,0.00409,-0.026606,-0.002273,0.01124,-0.032408,0.004542,-0.033523,0.024131,-0.015125,-0.002407,-0.016718,0.004502,0.002121,-0.006059,-0.00456,0.001084,0.002036

Illyrius
01-09-2020, 04:39 PM
Yes before the turkics have conquered and mongrelized them.

*Cries in R1a Z93

Kyp
01-09-2020, 04:46 PM
Yes EHG+CHG mostly

Smeagol
01-09-2020, 04:47 PM
Scythians were not a unified people. The ones in the west were probably mostly white, while going east there would have been an increase of Mongoloid admixture.

Illyrius
01-09-2020, 04:58 PM
yes they are white. and first victims of Turks.

I feel so sorry for them.

Token
01-09-2020, 04:58 PM
Scythians were very heterogeneous, but early Scythians and Sarmatians from the Pontic-Caspian steppe were bizarrely Indo-European.

samario
01-09-2020, 05:09 PM
Very, they were blonde, tall and had fierce eyes.

Bred
01-09-2020, 05:10 PM
Yes EHG+CHG mostly

isnt that just means steppe yamnaya ?