Post your % Ancient MyTrueAncestry

[Cumansky]

Vikings (Swedish) 18.2%
Baltic Tribes 16.7%
Avars 13.1%
Scythians 12.8%
Longobards 9.7%
Sarmatians 6.97%
Oeselians 6.26%
Kievan Rus 5.94%
Danish Vikings 4.71%
Franks 2.93%
Ostrogoths 2.69%

[Coastal Elite]

Franks 29.2
Celts 13.2
Gauls 9.76
Visigoths 8.09
Danish Vikings 7.01
Longobards 6.6
Saxons 6.33
Illryians 5.78
Scythians 5.17
Vikings (Swedish) 5.05
Thuringii 3.66

[TheOldNorth]

Franks 23.9%
Visigoths 16.9%
Longobards 13%
Celts 11.6%
Gauls 6.84%
Danish Vikings 6.29%
Saxons 6.25%
Swedish Vikings 4.27%
Scythians 4.06%
Vandals 3.29%
Illyrians 3.28%

[TheOldNorth]

Vikings (Swedish) 18.2%
Baltic Tribes 16.7%
Avars 13.1%
Scythians 12.8%
Longobards 9.7%
Sarmatians 6.97%
Oeselians 6.26%
Kievan Rus 5.94%
Danish Vikings 4.71%
Franks 2.93%
Ostrogoths 2.69%

are you really french? from these results you look slavic or baltic of some kind

[Cumansky]

are you really french? from these results you look slavic or baltic of some kind

No I'm not French lmao

[RandomGuy20]

Scythians - 18.6
Longobards - 12.7
Vikings (Swedish) - 12.4
Celts - 11.2
Franks - 10.3
Danish Vikings - 9.45
Saxons - 6.89
Avars - 5.37
Visigoths - 4.71
Ostrogoths - 4.07
Sarmatians - 4.05

[TheOldNorth]

No I'm not French lmao

O wait, I didn't recognize your changed pic, I'm stupid

[Matty74]

Viking + Celt (2.149)
Viking Danish + Vandal (3.46)
Celt (5.432)
Vandal (5.617)
Saxon (5.708)
Viking Danish (6.759)
Viking (7.302)

Celts 24.7%
Longobards 14%
Swedish Vikings 12.9%
Danish Vikings 11%
Norwegian Vikings 7.53%
Icelandic Vikings 4.69%
Saxons 11.4%
Vandals 7.82%
Franks 3.09%
Alemanni 1.6%
Visigoths 0.99%

50.12% Viking & Longobard
24.70 Celt
24.90 Saxon/Vandal/Frank/Alemanni/Visigoth

[**JC**]

Saxons 19.2%
Celts 16.1%
Danish Vikings 13.7%
Longobards 12%
Vikings (Swedish) 9.97%
Franks 9.46%
Vandals 5.61%
Norwegian Vikings 5.42%
Visigoths 3.57%
Ostrogoths 3%
Vikings (Icelandic) 1.66%

[Dušan]

22.4% Schytians
12.2% Sarmatians
10.9% Romans
10.5% Franks
8.52% Swedish Vikings
6.5% Gauls
6.26% Danish Vikings
5.79% Avars
5.66% Gallo-Romans
5.61% Illyrians
5.41% Longobards

[Kyp]

Me

Romans 32.7
Hellenic Romans 12.1
Sarmatians 9.76
Roman Hispania 8.36
Illyrians 6.59
Scythians 6.25
Seleucid Empire 5.88
Franks 5.08
Pontic Empire 4.48
Ancient Greeks 4.25
Gauls 3.87




Mother

Celts 19.6
Franks 18.8
Danish Vikings 15.1
Longobards 8.34
Scythians 7.35
Saxons 7.14
Vikings Swedish 6.86
Visigoths 4.79
Vikings Icelandic 4.55
Ostrogoths 4.36
Gauls 2.1
Vandals 1.0

[Bosniensis]

Romans 22.5%
Scythians 16.3%
Sarmatians 11.3%
Franks 10.3%
Illyrians 7.6%
Roman Hispania 7.3%
Gauls 7.08%
Gallo-Romans 5.22%
Avars 4.81%
Visigoths 4.33%
Kievan Rus 2.94%

[Ylla]

Romans 46.5
Hellenic Romans 14
Roman Hispania 9.41
Ancient Greeks 6.8
Illyrians 4.95
Minoans 4.55
Thracians 3.66
Hittites 3.05
Gallo Romans 3
Philistines 2.47
Gauls 1.79

[paradox]

If anyone has posted their results previously on the forum, check them. They may have changed.

Romans 35.8
Hellenic Romans 17.2
Roman Hispania 9.82
Ancient Greeks 7.81
Hittites 5.82
Illyrians 5.3
Minoans 4.67
Philistines 4.09
Gallo-Romans 3.29
Seleucid Empire 3.13
Scynthians 2.94

My father's

Romans 33.8
Roman Hispania 11.2
Franks 10.2
Illyrians 9.13
Scynthians 8.22
Gauls 8.1
Gallo-Romans 5.78
Visigoths 4.07
Hellenic Romans 3.64
Thuringii 2.89
Thracians 2.81

[Pedro Ruben]

Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.967)
Gaul + Al-Andalus (6.437)
Illyrian (8.562)
Al-Andalus (9.375)
Gallo-Roman (10.8)
Roman Hispania (11.27)
Gaul (13.21)

Illyrian 17%
Roman Hispania 16.1%
Romans 12.4%
Gallo-Romans 12.3%
Franks 8.73%
Al-Andalus 7.2%
Etruscans 6.89%
Visigoths 6.22%
Vascones 4.76%
Iberians 4.55%
Gauls 3.66%

[Saiwalo]

Vikings (Swedish): 24.2%
Sarmatians: 18.6%
Longobards: 18%
Scythians: 8.39%
Norwegian Vikings: 8.07%
Avars: 5.27%
Danish Vikings: 4.63%
Oeselians: 3.5%
Visigoths: 3.39%
Cimmerians: 2.96%
Saxons: 2.8%

[Noraktar]

Romans 27.3
Hellenic Romans 21.5
Seleucid Empire 9.76
Pontic Empire 9.19
Ancient Greeks 6.83
Hittites 6.65
Roman Hispania 5.47
Minoans 3.89
Illyrians 3.42
Alans 3.28
Canaanites and Semites 2.63

[JamesBond007]

Celts : 24.1%
Longobards : 14.3%
Saxons : 13.9%
Danish vikings : 12.1%
Viking Swedish : 10.8%
Norwegian Viking : 7.32%
Franks : 5.92%
Vandals : 4.3%
Viking Iceland : 3.57%
Visigoths : 2.9%
Ostrogoths : 0.74%

[Dick]

https://i.imgur.com/G0BbPao.jpg

[Ford]

Scythians 19.5%
Franks 12.8%
Romans 11.4%
Gauls 8.35%
Longoboards 8.21%
Illyrians 7.51%
Avars 7.05%
Danish Vikings 6.91%
Vikings (Swedish) 6.52%
Visigoths 5.78%
Ostrogoths 5.76%

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Illyrians - 19%
Roman Hispania - 15%
Romans - 15%
Gallo-Romans - 14.8%
Etruscans - 7.58%
Franks - 6.7%
Visigoths - 5.36%
Al-Andalus - 5.2%
Iberians - 4.22%
Vascones - 3.74%
Latins - 3.15%

[Nomansman]

Ghaznavid 42%
Mauryan 26.70%
Sindhi brahmin 10.60%
Sarmatian 6.61%
Alans 2.96%
Huns 2.61%
Hellenic romans 2.43%
Schythians 1.65%
Cimmerians 1.53%
Romans 1.41%
Safavid dynasty 1.31%

So basically 42% afghan pashtun, 37.30% nw south asian and rest a mix between euros and bit west asian(aka 20.70% total)

[Kökény]

Franks 15.4 %
Scythians 13.9%
Gauls 13.2 %
Romans 11.4%
Celts 9.35 %
Illyrians 7.49 %
Danish Vikings 6.82%
Longobards 6.8%
Visigoths 5.74%
Thuringii 5.04%
Saxons 4.68 %

[Adamm]

Romans: 18.4%
Minoans: 13.4%
Canaanites and Semites: 12.6%
Roman Hispania: 10.9%
Hellenic Romans: 9.56%
Philistines: 9.1%
Ancient Egyptians: 8.36%
Ancient Greeks: 7.76%
Hittites: 5.71%
Carthaginians: 2.5%
Thracians: 1.43%

[Bosniensis]

Illyrians - 19%


Illyrian % with all Portuguese go in line with Greek Myth that says that Illyrians and Celts are identical people descended from two brothers.

I believe yours are Celtic that falsely go under Illyrian.

[Ritz06]

Sarmatians 23.3%
Romans 21.9%
Franks 10.7%
Scythians 9.88%
illyrians 6.79
Gauls 5.36%
Hellenic romans 4.74%
Celts 4.73%
Visigoths 4.31%
Cimmerians 4.15%
Alans 3.94%

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Illyrian % with all Portuguese go in line with Greek Myth that says that Illyrians and Celts are identical people descended from two brothers.

I believe yours are Celtic that falsely go under Illyrian.

I think that Celtic ancestry in the Balkans is negligible. This sample is probably just similar to modern Iberians (70% Farmer + 30% Steppe\Hunter-Gatherer).

[Bosniensis]

I think that Celtic ancestry in the Balkans is negligible. This sample is probably just similar to modern Iberians (70% Farmer + 30% Steppe\Hunter-Gatherer).

We have mix from multiple directions. Celtic, Greek, Roman, Scythian etc..

In the context of admixture, nobody is more Pan-European than Balkanites :P

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

We have mix from multiple directions. Celtic, Greek, Roman, Scythian etc..

In the context of admixture, nobody is more Pan-European than Balkanites :P

If you are talking about paternal lineages then you might have a point. In Western Europe there's always a clearly dominant lineage whereas in the Balkan region you've got more diversity.

http://i.imgur.com/GLL0M9y.png

[Gaditanian]

Illyrian % with all Portuguese go in line with Greek Myth that says that Illyrians and Celts are identical people descended from two brothers.

I believe yours are Celtic that falsely go under Illyrian.

All spaniards are giving Illyrians instead of Celts in this page.

I believe the same, doesn't have so much sense all spaniards Illyrians when Iberian Peninsula was populated in 2/3 of it territory with Celts

[PT Tagus]

Illyrians - 22.7%
Romans - 17.8%
Roman Hispania - 14.2%
Franks - 9.41%
Gallo-Romans - 9.06%
Etruscans - 6.44%
Al-Andalus - 6.1%
Visigoths - 5.73%
Gauls - 3.14%
Iberians - 3.12%
Thracians - 2.14%

[Cumansky]

So, I'm the Avar Khan

[Bosniensis]

All spaniards are giving Illyrians instead of Celts in this page.

I believe the same, doesn't have so much sense all spaniards Illyrians when Iberian Peninsula was populated in 2/3 of it territory with Celts

Myth makes sense as I said:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Cyclops_Polyphemus_%26_Galatea_Family_Tree_%28Gree k_Mythology%29_%28English%29.jpg

[Dick]

All spaniards are giving Illyrians instead of Celts in this page.

I believe the same, doesn't have so much sense all spaniards Illyrians when Iberian Peninsula was populated in 2/3 of it territory with Celts


Myth makes sense as I said:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Cyclops_Polyphemus_%26_Galatea_Family_Tree_%28Gree k_Mythology%29_%28English%29.jpg

Illyrians were Proto-Italo Celts?


Nice Bosniensis. The Ancient Greeks knew their shit

[Bosniensis]

Illyrians were Proto-Italo Celts?


Nice Bosniensis. The Ancient Greeks knew their shit

Celts were Farmers.

They came from Anatolia and Balkans.

They were I2a2, I2a1, I2a1a, G, and some R1

Ancient Greeks and Romans J2a, J2, E1b etc.

[TheMaestro]

Romans - 26.5%
Scythians - 13.9%
Franks - 10.7%
Gauls - 9.04%
Illyrians - 8.5%
Roman Hyspania - 8.16%
Sarmatians - 6.44%
Gallo-Romans 5.54%
Visigoths - 4.66%
Ostrogoths - 3.29%
Hellenic Romans 3.26%

[TheMaestro]

Romans 22.5%
Scythians 16.3%
Sarmatians 11.3%
Franks 10.3%
Illyrians 7.6%
Roman Hispania 7.3%
Gauls 7.08%
Gallo-Romans 5.22%
Avars 4.81%
Visigoths 4.33%
Kievan Rus 2.94%


We have pretty similar results again brate.

[Cumansky]

Celts were Farmers.

They came from Anatolia and Balkans.

They were I2a2, I2a1, I2a1a, G, and some R1

Ancient Greeks and Romans J2a, J2, E1b etc.

They are not I2, where is my Celt %

[Dick]

Celts were Farmers.

They came from Anatolia and Balkans.

They were I2a2, I2a1, I2a1a, G, and some R1

Ancient Greeks and Romans J2a, J2, E1b etc.

Not this again. Founders of Ancient Rome were R1b. Deal with it

[Bosniensis]

Not this again. Founders of Ancient Rome were R1b. Deal with it

People who doesn't have paternal ancestry from Anatolia so all except (I, J, E, G) are recent Italians (last 1500 years).

Troyans were not R1b.

All you hear from those "Scientists" are lies.

There is NO Republican Era R1b except if he was a Slave or Gladiator.

J2a were Troyans, I2a were Gauls.

R1a and R1b are Gomer and Magogites from Steppe. They have only founded Terror in Rome, and they came in 5th century A.D.

I have sources which I can't even explain to you, and I am absolutely sure I am correct, more than ever.

[oszkar07]

Closest Ancient Populations
Frank + Avar (5.894)
Scythian + Ostrogoth (6.58)
Scythian (9.327)
Ostrogoth (11.38)
Frank (11.88)
Viking Danish (12.17)
Avar (14.36)

Ancient Sample Breakdown
Celts 19.8%
DanishVikings 15.4%
Scythians 12.6%
Franks 11.5%
VikingSwedish 8.36%
Longobards 7.90%
Saxons 7.82%
Ostrogoths 5.25%
Avars 4.00%
Visigoths 3.61%
Gauls 3.51%

[Dick]

People who doesn't have paternal ancestry from Anatolia so all except (I, J, E, G) are recent Italians (last 1500 years).

Troyans were not R1b.

All you hear from those "Scientists" are lies.

There is NO Republican Era R1b except if he was a Slave or Gladiator.

J2a were Troyans, I2a were Gauls.

R1a and R1b are Gomer and Magogites from Steppe. They have only founded Terror in Rome, and they came in 5th century A.D.

I have sources which I can't even explain to you, and I am absolutely sure I am correct, more than ever.

Who is your source now. Dr. Nele Karajlic?

[Helen]

Roman Hispania + Illyrian (3.391)
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (4.64)
Illyrian (6.491)
Al-Andalus (8.219)
Roman Hispania (8.482)
Gallo-Roman (8.844)
Etruscan (12.16)

Illyrians 18.5%
Roman Hispania 16.1%
Romans 13.8%
Gallo-Romans 12.8%
Etruscans 8.34%
Iberians 7.46%
Al-Andalus 6.25%
Vascones 5.57%
Visigoths 3.88%
Franks 3.72%
Carthaginians 3.34%

[vbnetkhio]

I have sources which I can't even explain to you,

woah..

[Ford]

I have sources which I can't even explain to you, and I am absolutely sure I am correct, more than ever.

Did you find a magic incense in the lower levels of the Bosnian pyramids?

[Dick]

Did you find a magic incense in the lower levels of the Bosnian pyramids?

XAXAXAXA

[Bosniensis]

Did you find a magic incense in the lower levels of the Bosnian pyramids?

Pharaoh came to Medjugorie and explained me everything.

[Dušan]

It is interesting how the Spaniards and Portuguese got the Illyrians in the first place.

[Dick]

It is interesting how the Spaniards and Portuguese got the Illyrians in the first place.

This is why


https://i.imgur.com/If8VDiT.png

[BreakingBed]

Safavid Dynasty 20.9%
Hellenic Romans 14.6%
Romans 14%
Canaanites and Semites 9.89%
Hittites 8.79%
Alans 8.69%
Maurya Empire 5.5%
Minoans 5.02%
Ancient Greeks 4.78%
Ghaznavid Dynasty 4.69%
Pontic Empire 2.94%

[PAGANE]

Romans- 27.9%
Sarmatians- 13.5%
Scythians- 11.3%
Franks- 9.52%
Illyrians- 6.79%
Gauls- 6.5%
Hellenic Romans- 6.4%
Roman Hispania- 6.38%
Gallo-Romans- 4.25%
Visigoths- 3.9%
Seleucid - 3.41%

[Bosniensis]

This is why


[img]https://i.imgur.com/If8VDiT.png[/ig]

I don't know how is this related to that what you posted, I was reading 12th century Byzantine Chronicles (Scrolls) and
in one of them it is says: "These Franciscans (how they addressed Italians) are not Italians, but rather those Catalans are Italians (whom they remember as one)"

Could they be right, in the sense that Catalans and Southern Spaniards are more Ancient Italians than modern Italians?

[Impaler]

Romans - 32.6%
Hellenic Romans - 14.5%
Roman Hispania - 10.4%
Franks - 8.19%
Illyrians - 7.14%
Scythians - 6.43%
Ancient Greeks - 5.41%
Sarmatians - 4.68%
Gauls - 4.18%
Visigoths - 3.42%
Gallo-Romans - 2.97%

[MustafaTekin]

Romans - 21%
Hellenic Romans - 20%
Hittites - 9.45%
Canaanites & Semites - 9.20%
Ancient Greeks - 7.13%
Safavid Dynasty - 6%
Alans - 5.68%
Ottomans - 5.38%
Pontic Empire - 5.34%
Minoans - 5.06%
Seleucid Empire - 4.94%

[Bosniensis]

Romans - 21%
Hellenic Romans - 20%
Hittites - 9.45%
Canaanites & Semites - 9.20%
Ancient Greeks - 7.13%
Safavid Dynasty - 6%
Alans - 5.68%
Ottomans - 5.38%
Pontic Empire - 5.34%
Minoans - 5.06%
Seleucid Empire - 4.94%

I've heard Genghis Khan and other Turkic Khaganates score 21% Romans, 20% Hellenic and 7% Ancient Greeks.

[hedonist]

Do I need to send my DNA somewhere to determine results?

[MustafaTekin]

I've heard Genghis Khan and other Turkic Khaganates score 21% Romans, 20% Hellenic and 7% Ancient Greeks.

Ok.

[ksha]

Vikings sweden 20,7 %
longobards 17%
scythians 13,1%
danish vikings 10,5%
celts 8,8%
avars 6,54 %
franks 6,23 %
sarmatians 5,82 %
saxons 4,35%
visighots 4,03 %
oeselians 3,44 %

[PAGANE]

[QUOTE = hedonist; 6446999] Трябва ли да изпратя ДНК-то си някъде, за да определя резултатите? [/ ЦИТАТ]


https://mytrueancestry.com/

[Hapanuwa]

Hellenic Roman + Ottoman (6.472)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (10.19)
Hellenic Roman (12.52)
Pontic (14.95)
Seleucid (14.95)
Ottoman (17.35)

Hellenic Romans 25.1%
Romans 23.2%
Hittites 8.54%
Ancient Greeks 8.09%
Canaanites and Semites 7.55%
Minoans 7.1%
Roman Hispania 5.34%
Pontic Empire 4.26%
Seleucid 3.97%
Alans 3.64%
Safavid 3.04%

[Rædwald]

Ancient Breakdown


Celts - 18.8%
Saxons - 16.2%
Danish Vikings - 13.6%
Longobards - 10.7%
Vikings (Swedish) - 10%
Franks - 9.53%
Vandals - 5.67%
Viking (Norway) - 5.04%
Vikings (Iceland) - 4.09%
Visigoths - 3.54%
Ostrogoths - 2.45%

[zzddss]

Ancient Egyptian + Canaanite / Semite (22.06)
Canaanite / Semite (24.57)
Ancient Egyptian (25.24)

[Nassbean]

Romans - 25.3%
Roman Hispania - 18.4%
Minoans - 11.2%
Hellenic Romans - 9.91%
Philistines - 8.42%
Ancient Greeks - 7.87%
Illyrians - 4.73%
Ancient Egyptians - 3.89%
Carthaginians - 3.72%
Hittites - 3.67%
Gallo-romans - 2.61%

Not really accurate for North africans

[Adamm]

Romans - 25.3%
Roman Hispania - 18.4%
Minoans - 11.2%
Hellenic Romans - 9.91%
Philistines - 8.42%
Ancient Greeks - 7.87%
Illyrians - 4.73%
Ancient Egyptians - 3.89%
Carthaginians - 3.72%
Hittites - 3.67%
Gallo-romans - 2.61%

Not really accurate for North africans

It just means they havent uploaded enough samples yet from North Africa.

[TheOldNorth]

Ancient Egyptian + Canaanite / Semite (22.06)
Canaanite / Semite (24.57)
Ancient Egyptian (25.24)

I think they mean the new percentage feature

[TheOldNorth]

Do I need to send my DNA somewhere to determine results?

if you've already done 23&me or Ancestry.com, you can upload it to MyTrueAncestry.com and wait about 10 minutes

[RandomGuy20]

Grandma is uber Viking -

Longobards - 31.9
Vikings Swedish - 19.1
Norwegian Vikings - 11.3
Celts - 10
Saxons - 8.25
Danish Vikings - 7.97
Franks - 3.65
Vandals - 2.86
Visigoths - 2.3
Vikings Icelandic - 1.27
Ostrogoths - 1.15

[RandomGuy20]

if you've already done 23&me or Ancestry.com, you can upload it to MyTrueAncestry.com and wait about 10 minutes

Is it true that 23andMe has better raw data than Ancestry for uploads such as these?

[Coastal Elite]

Franks 29.2
Celts 13.2
Gauls 9.76
Visigoths 8.09
Danish Vikings 7.01
Longobards 6.6
Saxons 6.33
Illryians 5.78
Scythians 5.17
Vikings (Swedish) 5.05
Thuringii 3.66

Mom

Celts 20.9
Longobards 15.9
Vikings Swedish (Swedish) 15.8
Danish Vikings 14.1
Saxons 12.6
Norwegian Viking 7.65
Vandals 5,62
Franks 3.44
Vikings (Icelandic) 2,18
Visigoth .94
Ostrogoths .87

[Mortimer]

https://i.postimg.cc/C1yRDdTg/Ancient-Breakdown.jpg

[Pater Patota]

Romans 17.9
Hellenic Romans 17
Safavid Dynasty 11.8
Alans 10.4
Hittites 9.71
Canaanites and Semites 8.48
Ancient Greeks 6.13
Pontic Empire 5.73
Minoans 5.38
Seleucid Empire 3.79
Ghaznavid Dynasty 3.49

[Chaos One]

Romans - 25.3%
Roman Hispania - 18.4%
Minoans - 11.2%
Hellenic Romans - 9.91%
Philistines - 8.42%
Ancient Greeks - 7.87%
Illyrians - 4.73%
Ancient Egyptians - 3.89%
Carthaginians - 3.72%
Hittites - 3.67%
Gallo-romans - 2.61%

Not really accurate for North africans

Romans - 31.4%
Roman Hispania - 17.9%
Illyrians - 9.45%
Hellenic Romans - 8.6%
Gallo-Romans - 6.77%
Etruscans - 5.07%
Ancient Greeks - 4.61%
Visigoths - 4.59%
Franks - 4.58%
Carthaginians - 3.69%
Thracians - 3.22%

Weird situation here. I saw that there's some "Al-Andalus" on those historical populations and none of us got it. Worse, I know I've Morisco background.

[TheOldNorth]

Is it true that 23andMe has better raw data than Ancestry for uploads such as these?

I wouldn't know as I only have 23&me so I can't compare

[WhatsGoingOnBigGuy]

Celts - 26.1%
Danish Vikings - 20%
Franks - 10.8%
Longboards - 8.91%
Vikings (Swedish) - 7.99%
Saxons - 6.91%
Scythians - 5.07%
Vikings (Icelandic) - 4.9%
Visigoths - 3.43%
Ostrogoths - 2.92%
Norwegian Vikings - 2.69%

[Pater Patota]

In my opinion;
Alans=Circassians, Adyghes, Ossetians, Nakh people
Hittites=Armenians, Assyrians
Canaanite&Semitics= Assyrians, Phoenicians.

Well I get 8.48% Canaanite&Semitics on MTA, on gedmatch K36 I get 3.20% Arabian and 14% East Med.So according to that, Kurds, Iranians and Turks get high percentage of Canaanite&Semitics on MTA.

[Pater Patota]

Double post

[vbnetkhio]

I've heard Genghis Khan and other Turkic Khaganates score 21% Romans, 20% Hellenic and 7% Ancient Greeks.

do you realize that these percentages aren't supposed to show admixture or ancestry?

[Bosniensis]

do you realize that these percentages aren't supposed to show admixture or ancestry?

They show your current ancient admixture according to the available ancient samples (so it's not very precise)

It does not show ancestry. Ancestry can only be traced by Y-DNA and that's very hard to track.

However, current admixture shows your possible ancestry due to mixing with certain groups.

[vbnetkhio]

They show your current ancient admixture according to the available ancient samples

it's not that either. it's just a statistic of all samples you "match". it doesn't mean you can be modelled as a mixture of all of them.

[TheOldNorth]

In my opinion;
Alans=Circassians, Adyghes, Ossetians, Nakh people
Hittites=Armenians, Assyrians
Canaanite&Semitics= Assyrians, Phoenicians.

Well I get 8.48% Canaanite&Semitics on MTA, on gedmatch K36 I get 3.20% Arabian and 14% East Med.So according to that, Kurds, Iranians and Turks get high percentage of Canaanite&Semitics on MTA.

Alans equal Ossetians, their direct descendants, though it would make sense surrounding people get related results, and Canaanites does not equal Assyrians, but mainly Phoenicians, Jews, and Carthaginians, although if it says and Semitics, then maybe Assyrians.

[Chaos One]

it's not that either. it's just a statistic of all samples you "match". it doesn't mean you can be modelled as a mixture of all of them.

That's why I said things are weird on this, because my no.1 match is a Morisco one and I don't have any on % or the first list. In fact, my first page list is on 17+ range (Roman + Roman Hispania) while it should be lower if it was Roman + Al Andalus.

[Rædwald]

Is it true that 23andMe has better raw data than Ancestry for uploads such as these?


AncestryDNA


Celts - 18.8%
Saxons - 16.2%
Danish Vikings - 13.6%
Longobards - 10.7%
Vikings (Swedish) - 10%
Franks - 9.53%
Vandals - 5.67%
Viking (Norway) - 5.04%
Vikings (Iceland) - 4.09%
Visigoths - 3.54%
Ostrogoths - 2.45%

23andMe


Celts - 18.6%
Saxons - 15.3%
Danish Vikings - 12.9%
Longobards - 11.5%
Vikings (Swedish) - 11.4%
Franks - 9.12%
Vikings (Norway) - 6.22%
Vandals - 5.49%
Vikings (Iceland) - 3.67%
Visigoths - 3.49%
Ostrogoths - 1.98%

I ran both of mine, and the difference appears to be negligable.

[noricum]

Scythians 16.1
Vikings 12.5
Celts 11.5
Danish Vikings 11.3
Franks 10.3
Avars 8.1
Longobards 7.81
Saxons 7.26
Ostrogoths 5.59
Gauls 4.45
Visigoths 4.16

[Chaos One]

Romans - 31.4%
Roman Hispania - 17.9%
Illyrians - 9.45%
Hellenic Romans - 8.6%
Gallo-Romans - 6.77%
Etruscans - 5.07%
Ancient Greeks - 4.61%
Visigoths - 4.59%
Franks - 4.58%
Carthaginians - 3.69%
Thracians - 3.22%


Using a v3 version:

Romans - 31%
Roman Hispania - 18.2%
Illyrians - 9.55%
Gallo-Romans - 7.83%
Hellenic Romans - 6.41%
Franks - 5.6%
Etruscans - 5.17%
Visigoths - 4.63%
Ancient Greeks - 4.52%
Carthaginians - 3.83%
Gauls - 3.17%

[Adamastor]

Romans - 31.4%
Roman Hispania - 17.9%
Illyrians - 9.45%
Hellenic Romans - 8.6%
Gallo-Romans - 6.77%
Etruscans - 5.07%
Ancient Greeks - 4.61%
Visigoths - 4.59%
Franks - 4.58%
Carthaginians - 3.69%
Thracians - 3.22%

Weird situation here. I saw that there's some "Al-Andalus" on those historical populations and none of us got it. Worse, I know I've Morisco background.

Al-Andalus there is an Iberian with some small Moorish admixture, not a real North African.

[Chaos One]

Al-Andalus there is an Iberian with some small Moorish admixture, not a real North African.

The problem is when your only purple match in all maps (which means that you have direct background) is Al-Andalus:

https://i.imgur.com/oAGjfQU.png

Dunno how this is done, but makes no sense. Like I said, the best match I have is also a Morisco one:

https://i.imgur.com/BGoMxGG.png

[Adamastor]

The problem is when your only purple match in all maps (which means that you have direct background) is Al-Andalus:

https://i.imgur.com/oAGjfQU.png

Dunno how this is done, but makes no sense. Like I said, the best match I have is also a Morisco one:

https://i.imgur.com/BGoMxGG.png

But your European DNA is mostly Northern Italian iirc. Doesn't make sense having Al-Andalus...

[Nassbean]

Romans - 31.4%
Roman Hispania - 17.9%
Illyrians - 9.45%
Hellenic Romans - 8.6%
Gallo-Romans - 6.77%
Etruscans - 5.07%
Ancient Greeks - 4.61%
Visigoths - 4.59%
Franks - 4.58%
Carthaginians - 3.69%
Thracians - 3.22%

Weird situation here. I saw that there's some "Al-Andalus" on those historical populations and none of us got it. Worse, I know I've Morisco background.

People who seem to get "al andalus" are all iberians not north africans and as for your morisco ancestors are you sure? Because i've read that it was forbidden for them to travel to America (maybe via spanish settlers who themselves had morisco ancestors idk). There is also a "moor" sample but I never have it weirdly and the carthaginian sample here isn't really carthaginian it's a phoenician sample from Ibiza

[Chaos One]

But your European DNA is mostly Northern Italian iirc. Doesn't make sense having Al-Andalus...

The problem is here:

https://i.imgur.com/txRcCsS.png

Morisco distance is 16.96, but Roman Hispania + Roman is 16.97

I mean, if the mix was Roman Hispania or Roman with Al-Andalus would make more sense, but even Al-Andalus alone does not enter the Top 4 (Heck, don't know how Gaul is in second).

[Chaos One]

People who seem to get "al andalus" are all iberians not north africans and as for your morisco ancestors are you sure? Because i've read that it was forbidden for them to travel to America

My ancestors moved back to Morocco and stayed there for many years before moving to Brazil. That's why I get a quite high North African number, because they probably mixed with locals in Northern Morocco. If it was an Iberian with Morisco background alone, no way I could have 10% North Africa with just one 1/16 ancestor lol

[Nassbean]

My ancestors moved back to Morocco and stayed there for many years before moving to Brazil. That's why I get a quite high North African number, because they probably mixed with locals in Northern Morocco. If it was an Iberian with Morisco background alone, no way I could have 10% North Africa with just one 1/16 ancestor lol

That's weird because I've never heard of moroccans or morisco in morocco going to Brazil ( I don't even think that was possible because it's mainly iberians who controlled the sea routes to America)

[Chaos One]

That's weird because I've never heard of moroccans or morisco in morocco going to Brazil ( I don't even think that was possible because it's mainly iberians who controlled the sea routes to America)

That really happened, but mostly Sephardi Jews; this is part of a wiki article saying that Sephardi Jews started to come to Brazil in 1810 mainly from Morocco:

"Uma nova onda de imigrantes judeus, sefarditas, começou a chegar ao Brasil em 1810, vindos principalmente do Marrocos, estabelecendo-se na Amazônia, principalmente em Belém, onde fundaram em 1824 a mais antiga sinagoga em funcionamento no Brasil e, em 1848, o primeiro cemitério israelita do país; e em Manaus, onde chegaram em 1880. Boa parte dos que chegaram no final do século vinham em função da época dourada da borracha, e sua vinda foi financiada pelos que já estavam na região. Cametá, no interior do Pará, chegou a ter metade de sua população branca constituída de sefarditas."

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaísmo_no_Brasil#Séculos_XIX_e_XX

[Nassbean]

That really happened, but mostly Sephardi Jews; this is part of a wiki article saying that Sephardi Jews started to come to Brazil in 1810 mainly from Morocco:

"Uma nova onda de imigrantes judeus, sefarditas, começou a chegar ao Brasil em 1810, vindos principalmente do Marrocos, estabelecendo-se na Amazônia, principalmente em Belém, onde fundaram em 1824 a mais antiga sinagoga em funcionamento no Brasil e, em 1848, o primeiro cemitério israelita do país; e em Manaus, onde chegaram em 1880. Boa parte dos que chegaram no final do século vinham em função da época dourada da borracha, e sua vinda foi financiada pelos que já estavam na região. Cametá, no interior do Pará, chegou a ter metade de sua população branca constituída de sefarditas."

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaísmo_no_Brasil#Séculos_XIX_e_XX

Ah ok yes in this case that sounds more logical ( recent +jewish people)

[Adamastor]

The problem is here:

https://i.imgur.com/txRcCsS.png

Morisco distance is 16.96, but Roman Hispania + Roman is 16.97

I mean, if the mix was Roman Hispania or Roman with Al-Andalus would make more sense, but even Al-Andalus alone does not enter the Top 4 (Heck, don't know how Gaul is in second).

But the distances are pretty huge, 17.00 is a huge distance (especially considering this test). You probably still cluster in Europe, but far from the European populations of your racial make up and probably near Sicilians or similar guys.

[Chaos One]

But the distances are pretty huge, 17.00 is a huge distance (especially considering this test). You probably still cluster in Europe, but far from the European populations of your racial make up and probably near Sicilians or similar guys.

That's the point. I'm far because I also have North African, Central Asian, Native American and SSA backgrounds.

So, while the distances are logically huge, would be closer if this was a mix of Roman with any other group related to those backgrounds. If it was Roman + Al-Andalus/Greco-Bactrian or even Native/Bantu, would be probably lesser than 17 (like any 2-way or 4-way from Gedmatch calculators). Still, dunno why they gave me this mix since it makes no sense when it comes to proximity. I'm saying this because they have all those groups.

[Adamastor]

That's the point. I'm far because I also have North African, Central Asian, Native American and SSA backgrounds.

So, while the distances are logically huge, would be closer if this was a mix of Roman with any other group related to those backgrounds. If it was Roman + Al-Andalus/Greco-Bactrian or even Native/Bantu, would be probably lesser than 17 (like any 2-way or 4-way from Gedmatch calculators). Still, dunno why they gave me this mix since it makes no sense when it comes to proximity. I'm saying this because they have all those groups.

Al-Andalus is basically an Iberian, the distances would still be huge. Greco-Bactrian is a Balkanite Greek. Probably using Bantus or Natives would make the fit worst because your DNA cannot be modelled in a two-way European - African or European - Native, these admixtures are below 20%.

[JohnnyP]

Romans - 25.8%,
Scythians 14.9%,
Illyrians 11.1%,
Gauls 8.04%,
Roman Hispania 7.81%,
Franks 7.8%,
Sarmatians 7.03%,
Gallo-Romans 5.06%,
Visigoths 4.79%,
Hellenic Romans 3.74%,
Avars 3.7%


1. Byzantine Roman Warrior (605 AD) .....
Top 98% match vs all users


Scythian Southern Moldova
270 BC
scy192
mtDNA: [Upgrade to see]
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 21)
5 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 46.36 cM
Largest segment=154 SNPs / 20.09 cM

Your raw DNA is 93% closer than other matching users

[mitalit]

Illyrians 20
Franks 16,9
Gallo romans 11
Visigoths 8,63
Roman Hispania 7,43
Etruscans 7,3
Celts 7,13
Vascones 6,36
Saxons 5,23
Romans 5,01
Al-andalus 4,79

[Yamnaya]

It doesnt show the percentage on my phone, only the graph:

https://i.imgur.com/ak6zhvN_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Pater Patota]

My latest update

Romans 17.9%
Hellenic Romans 17%
Safavid Dynasty 12.7%
Alans 10.4%
Hittites 9.72%
Canaanites&Semites 8.49%
Pontic Empire 5.73%
Ancient Greeks 5.16%
Minoans 4.67%
Byzantine Empire 4.31%
Seleucid Empire 3.79%

[someonenotyou]

Scythian 21.8%
Frank 14%
Sarmatians 10.7%
Gauls 9.31%
Celt 7.41%
Visigoth 7.28&
Danish Viking 6.13%
Illyrians 5.7%
Saxon 4.93%
Viking Swedish 4.25%

[firemonkey]

FTDNA

Celts 36.2
Danish Vikings 14.8
Saxons 12.3
Vikings Swedish 8.52
Longobards 7.83
Vikings Icelandic 5.13
Vandals 5.08
Norwegian Vikings 4.81
Franks 2.7
Alemanni 1.7
Visigoths 0.74

[InfamousAngel99]

Population Percentages
Celts- 33.2%
Danish Vikings- 17.1%
Franks- 13.3%
Saxons- 11.7%
Vikings (Icelandic)- 6.33%
Vikings (Swedish)- 4.96%
Visigoths- 3.33%
Longobards- 3.11%
Vandals- 2.68%
Ostrogoths- 2.45%
Gauls- 1.6%

Populations
Celt + Frank (3.341)
Saxon + Frank (4.103)
Viking Danish + Frank (4.424)
Viking Danish + Visigoth (5.502)
Visigoth + Celt (5.903)
Celt (6.744)
Frank (7.148)
Viking Danish (8.619)
Saxon (9.473)
Visigoth (11.47)

[gixajo]

Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.494)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.287)
Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.463)
Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.628)
Visigoth + Gallo-Roman (6.887)
Gallo-Roman (7.995)
Visigoth (8.182)
Etruscan (9.448)
Al-Andalus (10.69)
Illyrian (10.85)

I add %

Gallo-Romans 18%
Iberians 14,8%
Etruscans 12,4%
Vascones 11,2%
Illiryans 9,99%
Visigoths 8,49%
Roman Hispania 7,02%
Latins 6,59%
Franks 4,44%
Al-Andalus 3,78%
Celts 3,1%

[**JC**]

Ancient Population percentage

Saxons 23.1%
Celts 19.1%
Danish Vikings 12.9%
Franks 10.2%
Longobards 8.03%
Vikings Swedish 7.98%
Vandals 5.85%
Ostrogoths 3.45%
Norwegian Vikings 3.35%
Visigoths 2.42%
Alemanni 1.19%
Vikings Icelandic 1.03%
Belgae 0.95%
Scythians 0.13%
Gauls 0.12%

[Dr_Maul]

25.2% Safavid Dynasty
24.1% Canaanites and Semites
15.6% Amorites
7.18% Hittites
5.96% Alans
4.14% Maurya Empire
3.48% Hellenic Romans
3.03% Ghaznavid Dynasty
2.24% Ancient Egypt
1.92% Romans
1.11% Ancient Greeks
1.06% Seleucid Empire
1.01% Ottomans
1.00% Byzantines
0.77% Minoans
0.75% Huns
0.59% Proto Hungarians
0.55% Phillistines

[Chris596]

Lol this is a long a$$ list

Scythians 14.9%
Romans 10.4%
Franks 10.1%
Proto-Hungarians 6.69%
Gauls 6.57%
Illyrians 5.98%
Sarmatians 4.78%
Belgae 4.3%
Early Slavs 3.89%
Gallo-Romans 3.85%
Danish Vikings 3.62%
Visigoths 3.61%
Byzantine Empire 3.43%
Ostrogoths 3.3
Boii 2.73%
Celts 2.52%
Avars 2.46%
Thuringii 2.42%
Kievan Rus 2.32%
Vikings 1.85%

[Nassbean]

Romans 24.1%
Roman Hispania 17.4%
Carthaginians 10.7%
Minoans 8.71%
Philistines 7.58%
Hellenic Romans 7.55%
Ancient Greeks 7.05%
Phoenicians 3.24%
Ancient Egyptians 2.46%
Hittites 2.29%
Thracians 1.81%
Gallo-romans 1.75%
Al-Andalus 1.59%
Amorites 1.41%
Illyrians 1.15%
Canaanites and Semites 0.68%
Etruscans 0.2%
Gauls 0.09%

You can't do more Mediterranean than this

[Blemoir]

Romans 35.3%
Roman Hispania 21.9%
Illyrians 9.57%
Gallo-Romans 6.13%
Franks 3.46%
Etruscans 3.44%
Al-Andalus 2.9%
Gauls 2.44%
Thracians 2.19%
Ancient Greeks 2.07%
Visigoths 1.95%
Hellenic Romans 1.92%
Phoenicians 1.61%
Thuringii 1.17%
Carthaginians 1.01%
Gepids 0.84%
Seleucid Empire 0.6%
Rhaeti 0.34%
Aquitani 0.27%

Populations:
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (5.704)
Roman Hispania + Roman (5.856)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.126)
Al-Andalus + Roman Hispania (7.855)
Al-Andalus + Roman (8.182)
Roman (8.385)
Roman Hispania (8.573)
Illyrian (12.12)
Gallo-Roman (12.87)
Al-Andalus (14.71)