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miarosie3
01-11-2020, 05:38 PM
Here are my results from Ancestry, 23andme and DNALand. Do you think they’re consistent and accurate with each other?

https://ibb.co/2gJ8Fts

Pine
01-11-2020, 05:54 PM
Given that DNA.LAND is consistently inconsistent, yes. Looks like you have a Middle Eastern grandparent.

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:00 PM
Given that DNA.LAND is consistently inconsistent, yes. Looks like you have a Middle Eastern grandparent.


I thought my DNA Land results mapped up well with my other two tests

Pine
01-11-2020, 06:02 PM
I thought my DNA Land results mapped up well with my other two tests

They do as well as DNA.LAND possibly can. I ignore DNA.LAND's results.

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:09 PM
Ah okay. I will honestly try anything at this point because I just want to know as much as I can. I did some research into DNA Land and their recent reviews since their update seemed to be positive so I wanted to give it a try.

Luke35
01-11-2020, 06:16 PM
Given that DNA.LAND is consistently inconsistent, yes. Looks like you have a Middle Eastern grandparent.

Agree with Pine, looks like you could have a Middle Eastern grandparent. You also seem to have some distant Eastern European. Both 23andMe and AncestryDNA seem to support this. DNALand, well I looked at your result for a minute got confused and gave up. :)

What is your known ancestry?

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:43 PM
Agree with Pine, looks like you could have a Middle Eastern grandparent. You also seem to have some distant Eastern European. Both 23andMe and AncestryDNA seem to support this. DNALand, well I looked at your result for a minute got confused and gave up. :)

What is your known ancestry?


Irish, British and Welsh from my mums mum and her parents. My grandfathers mother is Welsh and his father was born in Lithuania but I’m not sure about the rest of his family. Paternal I have no idea, I’m guessing one parent is Middle Eastern and the other is European. I was told he was Bulgarian but according to the people on this site he’s not so I honestly don’t know at this point lol

Pine
01-11-2020, 06:49 PM
Irish, British and Welsh from my mums mum and her parents. My grandfathers mother is Welsh and his father was born in Lithuania but I’m not sure about the rest of his family. Paternal I have no idea, I’m guessing one parent is Middle Eastern and the other is European. I was told he was Bulgarian but according to the people on this site he’s not so I honestly don’t know at this point lol

Not Bulgarian - the amount of MENA is within the Sephardi range for your dad, but you don't score nearly enough Ashkenazi and South Euro for that. Maybe a MENA shifted Roma, as some are low on South Asian. Then again, they score Anatolian on 23andMe from what I recall. The Bulgarian origin is likely false, even for diaspora groups like Jews and Roma.

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:53 PM
Not Bulgarian - the amount of MENA is within the Sephardi range for your dad, but you don't score nearly enough Ashkenazi and South Euro for that. Maybe a MENA shifted Roma, as some are low on South Asian. Then again, they score Anatolian on 23andMe from what I recall. The Bulgarian origin is likely false, even for diaspora groups like Jews and Roma.


Can I ask what MENA is? I haven’t heard of it before.

I did try the k15 plot map but I gave up with that because I was being told it wouldn’t be accurate for me.

Pine
01-11-2020, 06:55 PM
Can I ask what MENA is? I haven’t heard of it before.

I did try the k15 plot map but I gave up with that because I was being told it wouldn’t be accurate for me.

I was the one who told you that. MENA = Middle Eastern/North African

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:56 PM
Not Bulgarian - the amount of MENA is within the Sephardi range for your dad, but you don't score nearly enough Ashkenazi and South Euro for that. Maybe a MENA shifted Roma, as some are low on South Asian. Then again, they score Anatolian on 23andMe from what I recall. The Bulgarian origin is likely false, even for diaspora groups like Jews and Roma.

I was told to try the MDLP Word 22 calculator and it showed mostly Balkan countries and I was told to ignore that too, so I really don’t know what I should or shouldn’t be doing to find out more.

Pine
01-11-2020, 06:56 PM
I was told to try the MDLP Word 22 calculator and it showed mostly Balkan countries and I was told to ignore that too, so I really don’t know what I should or shouldn’t be doing to find out more.

You should be checking your cousin matches.

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:56 PM
I was the one who told you that. MENA = Middle Eastern/North African

Oh right, but that’s only one grandparent, what about the other European grandparent?

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:57 PM
I have, they’re all European. 331 Balkan, 406 Northwestern and 2 Middle Eastern.

miarosie3
01-11-2020, 06:58 PM
I also have a match whos 100% European Jewish

Pine
01-12-2020, 12:58 AM
I have, they’re all European. 331 Balkan, 406 Northwestern and 2 Middle Eastern.

Where are the Middle Easterners from? I'm assuming you're checking on AncestryDNA. See if you can gauge the ethnicity of the Balkan matches. Maybe they're Turks of some kind.

Adamm
01-12-2020, 01:01 AM
The middle eastern you are getting is according to your 23andMe results ' Peninsula ' which is basically Saudi Arabian/Qatar/Kuweiti/UAE.

Pine
01-12-2020, 02:01 AM
The middle eastern you are getting is according to your 23andMe results ' Peninsula ' which is basically Saudi Arabian/Qatar/Kuweiti/UAE.

Given her cousin matches, I'm wondering if this is a crazy case of multi-generational random inheritance, as Balkanites often score a couple % MENA on 23andMe after the last update. Then again, the lack of Middle Eastern cousins also makes sense if they're Arabian, since few exist in these databases.

Mia, where are the Middle Eastern matches from?

samario
01-12-2020, 02:52 AM
Nice results.

miarosie3
01-12-2020, 04:52 AM
Where are the Middle Easterners from? I'm assuming you're checking on AncestryDNA. See if you can gauge the ethnicity of the Balkan matches. Maybe they're Turks of some kind.

It doesn’t go into anymore depth than that

miarosie3
01-12-2020, 04:53 AM
It doesn’t go into depth, but I do get Egyptian so maybe there? I will try and find out

miarosie3
01-12-2020, 05:05 AM
Given her cousin matches, I'm wondering if this is a crazy case of multi-generational random inheritance, as Balkanites often score a couple % MENA on 23andMe after the last update. Then again, the lack of Middle Eastern cousins also makes sense if they're Arabian, since few exist in these databases.

Mia, where are the Middle Eastern matches from?

According to ancestry our shared ethnicity is Egypt and countries surrounding it and but they seem to have more african results. As for the Balkan is hard to tell because it doesn’t go any further, all I can say is I have 550 Eastern European matches and 331 of them are Balkan.

Pine
01-12-2020, 05:51 AM
According to ancestry our shared ethnicity is Egypt and countries surrounding it and but they seem to have more african results. As for the Balkan is hard to tell because it doesn’t go any further, all I can say is I have 550 Eastern European matches and 331 of them are Balkan.

Check your cousin matches on other sites. You can also pm them. The maps on AncestryDNA are generic, unless Egypt is specified for you.

miarosie3
01-12-2020, 06:09 AM
Check your cousin matches on other sites. You can also pm them. The maps on AncestryDNA are generic, unless Egypt is specified for you.

Yup I have, myheritage I have about 390 Balkan relatives and about 480 Eastern Europe ones but again it doesn’t pin point what countries and as for Middle Eastern it’s coming to about 10 relatives.