My amateur analyses on morroccan affinity to south euros

[Nomansman]

I made this thread not for trolling or trying to offend anyone, just out of curiosity and for fun after to get to know more about north africans.

After i seen gedmatch results of north africans + as well their historical affinity to south euros and geographical distance, i kind of expected them to be a lot closer than i got to see after playing around a bit with north african g25 nmonte coordinates. I mean, this whole time i myself thought north africans would be significantly somewhat a bit close to south euros.

But this suprised me a bit:



Distance to: Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.13761508 Spanish_Canarias
0.16528326 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16919579 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16933056 Spanish_Murcia
0.17083389 Spanish_Galicia
0.17092024 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17580107 Spanish_Alacant
0.17619895 Spanish_Asturias
0.17646728 Spanish_Eivissa
0.17759084 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17764012 Spanish_Menorca
0.17927061 Spanish_Baleares
0.18031074 Spanish_Valencia
0.18070842 Spanish_Cataluna
0.18126291 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18283997 Spanish_Aragon
0.18330112 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18437348 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.18471654 Spanish_Castello
0.18481394 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.18492045 Spanish_Navarra
0.18527431 Spanish_Pirineu
0.18551003 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18551338 Spanish_Girona
0.18622741 Spanish_Penedes
0.18627004 Spanish_Cantabria
0.18640651 Spanish_Lleida
0.18861149 Spanish_Barcelones
0.18949471 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19230914 Spanish_Soria
0.20190827 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.13028200 Spanish_Canarias
0.15811822 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16164713 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16216751 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.16255073 Spanish_Murcia
0.16303269 Spanish_Galicia
0.16904396 Spanish_Asturias
0.16919130 Spanish_Alacant
0.16981026 Spanish_Eivissa
0.16988351 Spanish_Menorca
0.17029300 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17252702 Spanish_Baleares
0.17253483 Spanish_Valencia
0.17341475 Spanish_Cataluna
0.17465054 Spanish_Aragon
0.17514902 Spanish_Mallorca
0.17595825 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.17702269 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17712081 Spanish_Pirineu
0.17735532 Spanish_Navarra
0.17740322 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.17743919 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.17798011 Spanish_Castello
0.17855531 Spanish_Girona
0.17917529 Spanish_Cantabria
0.17949690 Spanish_Lleida
0.17973777 Spanish_Penedes
0.18098040 Spanish_Barcelones
0.18151576 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.18377888 Spanish_Soria
0.19305498 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.14063315 Spanish_Canarias
0.16721970 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17082265 Spanish_Murcia
0.17135565 Spanish_Andalucia
0.17293167 Spanish_Galicia
0.17298122 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17738909 Spanish_Eivissa
0.17750177 Spanish_Menorca
0.17792018 Spanish_Alacant
0.17950842 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17965288 Spanish_Baleares
0.18178846 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18195698 Spanish_Asturias
0.18231506 Spanish_Valencia
0.18361684 Spanish_Cataluna
0.18402155 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18577862 Spanish_Aragon
0.18581114 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.18623690 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.18665820 Spanish_Girona
0.18670643 Spanish_Castello
0.18711012 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18740134 Spanish_Pirineu
0.18745323 Spanish_Penedes
0.18825617 Spanish_Lleida
0.18865292 Spanish_Navarra
0.18939154 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19007717 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19027933 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19374550 Spanish_Soria
0.20638033 Spanish_Pais_Vasco



These are the more euro leaning berber samples i could find. All the other berber samples would not turn a bit closer to euros than these samples.
Its interesting to see how close theyre to canarias compared to other euros(they would also get italians at distance of at least 17 and up to 22), but then again they get some of the canaria samples at 13 and some even at 11 and after looking a bit up about canarias, it seems like north african admix is a thing. So its not too weird that they get them at such distance. So it seems like non-north african admixed south euros would at get euro leaning N africans at distance of 16(which is still very huge)
I kind of expected i would be much more further(im a lot further still than these individual samples though) than these samples would be, since theyre right next to south euros and my country doesnt even border chechenya, but this suprised me a bit....



Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.20364311 Spanish_Mallorca
0.20387353 Spanish_Canarias
0.20413058 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20458581 Spanish_Eivissa
0.20503837 Spanish_Penedes
0.20512698 Spanish_Alacant
0.20607058 Spanish_Girona
0.20642507 Spanish_Baleares
0.20645434 Spanish_Galicia
0.20700760 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20714104 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20717654 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20760288 Spanish_Menorca
0.20826710 Spanish_Murcia
0.20992130 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20996212 Spanish_Valencia
0.21000075 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.21029031 Spanish_Lleida
0.21047748 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.21122468 Spanish_Barcelones
0.21172941 Spanish_Cataluna
0.21191334 Spanish_Pirineu
0.21228095 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.21274856 Spanish_Castello
0.21315191 Spanish_Aragon
0.21396886 Spanish_Cantabria
0.21565419 Spanish_Soria
0.21635500 Spanish_Navarra
0.21660789 Spanish_Asturias
0.22749211 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.22802473 Spanish_La_Rioja


Although a distance difference of 4(i get spanish and portugese at least at distance of 20, while less african morrocans get them at least of 16) is kind of huge, its still crazy to see how i, an afghan pashtun, are not much further from the neighbors of morroccans, despite their huge amount of euro alike admix in gedmatch(while i get much less compared to morrocans). And most of the other slightly more african shifted north africans would get most south italians and spanish at distance of 17,5 to 19, while i get them at least at 18-20,5.



Seems like its not for nothing north africans dont look like euros mostly. Either its just me who did a bad conclusion and the vahado distances arent reliable or it is the fact that north africans(even kabyle types....i assume this is what kabyles would get like....i wouldnt mind being corrected, if im wrong) are just REALLY REALLY far from their european neighbors and suprisingly not much closer than i am.

What do you guys think?

[Nomansman]

Any opnions?

[Morena]

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OK, serious now. ;)
I will share what I know, which isn't much, so I hope that others may be kind enough to add information.

It seems that you are saying that you are surprised by the genetic distance between N. Africans and Southern Europeans? This shouldn't be that surprising based on historical reasons. Going back to pre-history, both areas were populated by distinctly different founding populations. North Africa by Iberomasurians (which, despite the name, are not native to Iberia), while Iberia was populated by WHG + EEF culture known as something else (forgot the name).

Despite it's short distance, the strait of Gibraltar is actually quite treacherous and difficult to cross. The strait even managed to sink many of Bjorn the Ironside's ships as he sailed back home to from sacking much of the Mediterranean. If it managed to nearly best Vikings, some of the best sailors, then I don't think that Stone age or early Bronze age peoples would have crossed it.

The close proximity of both regions has led many to the same speculation, only to be surprised by the fact that the Mediterranean, very early on, was more of a migration barrier than a migration facilitator. Remember that people migrated primarily by foot, before taking to sea.

It was this different early stages in our development that really delineated the differences between the two peoples. All other admixture events, and there were about three, really weren't big enough to supersede this foundation.

As for why you, as an Afghan may share a greater affinity, I do not know enough to say. I do know that you guys run along the same genetic cline, so to speak, even if if you aren't closely related within the cline.

[Adamastor]

North Africans have around 10-15% SSA type of ancestry, what makes them far from Euros. If you removed the SSA they score in Eurogenes calculators they would be in between Levantine Arabs and Southwestern Europeans like Portuguese, Spaniards and Northern Italians.

SSA is very far removed from any other type of ancestry, even small bits can take someone very far from where he was supposed to plot based on the rest of his ancestry.

Look at results of people with 1/8 of SSA ancestry and the rest European, they are always very far from mainstream European cluster in most calculators. Most are at 14-18 of distance from their first population.

[Adamastor]

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OK, serious now. ;)
I will share what I know, which isn't much, so I hope that others may be kind enough to add information.

It seems that you are saying that you are surprised by the genetic distance between N. Africans and Southern Europeans? This shouldn't be that surprising based on historical reasons. Going back to pre-history, both areas were populated by distinctly different founding populations. North Africa by Iberomasurians (which, despite the name, are not native to Iberia), while Iberia was populated by WHG + EEF culture known as something else (forgot the name).

Despite it's short distance, the strait of Gibraltar is actually quite treacherous and difficult to cross. The strait even managed to sink many of Bjorn the Ironside's ships as he sailed back home to from sacking much of the Mediterranean. If it managed to nearly best Vikings, some of the best sailors, then I don't think that Stone age or early Bronze age peoples would have crossed it.

The close proximity of both regions has led many to the same speculation, only to be surprised by the fact that the Mediterranean, very early on, was more of a migration barrier than a migration facilitator. Remember that people migrated primarily by foot, before taking to sea.

It was this different early stages in our development that really delineated the differences between the two peoples. All other admixture events, and there were about three, really weren't big enough to supersede this foundation.

As for why you, as an Afghan may share a greater affinity, I do not know enough to say. I do know that you guys run along the same genetic cline, so to speak, even if if you aren't closely related within the cline.

North Africans can be modeled as Neolithic Iberian + Iberomaurusian + SSA. The latter components are what make them very far from Europeans.

Iberians are mostly Neolithic Iberian + Bell Beaker + small Iberomaurusian.

[Morena]

North Africans have around 10-15% SSA type of ancestry, what makes them far from Euros. If you removed the SSA they score in Eurogenes calculators they would be in between Levantine Arabs and Southwestern Europeans like Portuguese, Spaniards and Northern Italians.

SSA is very far removed from any other type of ancestry, even small bits can take someone very far from where he was supposed to plot based on the rest of his ancestry.

Look at results of people with 1/8 of SSA ancestry and the rest European, they are always very far from mainstream European cluster in most calculators. Most are at 14-18 of distance from their first population.

I disagree with this because we don't cluster with each other in maps. We don't even cluster with EEF. They have a significant amount of Iberomasurian, which is their founding population. We don't have that. We have significant amounts of WHG, which they don't have.

It's not the SSA, it's the foundation. Seriously though, that's not how to do it. It's like saying, if Iberian's didn't have as much EEF and more Bell Beaker, we'd cluster with the British. (just throwing that out there as an example, I don't know if it is actually true). But then if that were so, they wouldn't be Iberians, they'd be British. You have to take the whole thing into account.

[Nomansman]

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OK, serious now. ;)
I will share what I know, which isn't much, so I hope that others may be kind enough to add information.

It seems that you are saying that you are surprised by the genetic distance between N. Africans and Southern Europeans? This shouldn't be that surprising based on historical reasons. Going back to pre-history, both areas were populated by distinctly different founding populations. North Africa by Iberomasurians (which, despite the name, are not native to Iberia), while Iberia was populated by WHG + EEF culture known as something else (forgot the name).

Despite it's short distance, the strait of Gibraltar is actually quite treacherous and difficult to cross. The strait even managed to sink many of Bjorn the Ironside's ships as he sailed back home to from sacking much of the Mediterranean. If it managed to nearly best Vikings, some of the best sailors, then I don't think that Stone age or early Bronze age peoples would have crossed it.

The close proximity of both regions has led many to the same speculation, only to be surprised by the fact that the Mediterranean, very early on, was more of a migration barrier than a migration facilitator. Remember that people migrated primarily by foot, before taking to sea.

It was this different early stages in our development that really delineated the differences between the two peoples. All other admixture events, and there were about three, really weren't big enough to supersede this foundation.

As for why you, as an Afghan may share a greater affinity, I do not know enough to say. I do know that you guys run along the same genetic cline, so to speak, even if if you aren't closely related within the cline.

I do not share greater affinity to south west euros than less african north africans do, but little suprisingly im significantly closer to russians compared to most euro shifted N african. In fact im slightly closer to the russian being furthest from me than the russian being closest to most euro shifted n african:


Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.19206801 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol56
0.19457345 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr151
0.19492214 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr138
0.19559751 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr170
0.19618612 Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6
0.19642974 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr149
0.19665331 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol89
0.19836541 Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol34
0.19893908 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk18
0.20006640 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.20055979 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega1
0.20086946 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk15
0.20108357 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr128
0.20153353 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr120
0.20361728 Russian_Smolensk:SM256_russian_Smolensk
0.20383060 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol100
0.20400563 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol1
0.20504032 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega9
0.20574743 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol349
0.20596903 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78
0.20628059 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol350
0.20692319 Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol45
0.20819084 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega17
0.20880096 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol304
0.20886948 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol303
0.21111662 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol345
0.21182802 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol312
0.21271711 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol339



Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.23665449 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk9
0.23723780 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol89
0.23787014 Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol34
0.23834781 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol100
0.23864039 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol56
0.23902237 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol78
0.24117420 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol304
0.24210167 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol345
0.24368884 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk18
0.24469293 Russian_Smolensk:SM256_russian_Smolensk
0.24489833 Russian_Kursk:russianKursk6
0.24511338 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr149
0.24600370 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol312
0.24632160 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr151
0.24682639 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr170
0.24722871 Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk15
0.24815704 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol303
0.24969910 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr138
0.24971578 Russian_Orel:russianOrjol1
0.25102388 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol339
0.25228559 Russian_Orel:RussianOrjol45
0.25237041 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr120
0.25237713 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol349
0.25442409 Russian_Smolensk:RUS_Smol350
0.25527660 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega1
0.25650011 Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr128
0.26601153 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega9
0.26725854 Russian_Pinega:RusPinega17


Lol, im even closer to russians maybe than to morrocans and arabians as well. Kind of crazy, people would not believe me IRL.

But anyway, thanks for replying. Kind of clear things up a bit

[Nomansman]

North Africans have around 10-15% SSA type of ancestry, what makes them far from Euros. If you removed the SSA they score in Eurogenes calculators they would be in between Levantine Arabs and Southwestern Europeans like Portuguese, Spaniards and Northern Italians.

SSA is very far removed from any other type of ancestry, even small bits can take someone very far from where he was supposed to plot based on the rest of his ancestry.

Look at results of people with 1/8 of SSA ancestry and the rest European, they are always very far from mainstream European cluster in most calculators. Most are at 14-18 of distance from their first population.

I guess youre right.

[Synapsid]

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OK, serious now. ;)
I will share what I know, which isn't much, so I hope that others may be kind enough to add information.

It seems that you are saying that you are surprised by the genetic distance between N. Africans and Southern Europeans? This shouldn't be that surprising based on historical reasons. Going back to pre-history, both areas were populated by distinctly different founding populations. North Africa by Iberomasurians (which, despite the name, are not native to Iberia), while Iberia was populated by WHG + EEF culture known as something else (forgot the name).

Despite it's short distance, the strait of Gibraltar is actually quite treacherous and difficult to cross. The strait even managed to sink many of Bjorn the Ironside's ships as he sailed back home to from sacking much of the Mediterranean. If it managed to nearly best Vikings, some of the best sailors, then I don't think that Stone age or early Bronze age peoples would have crossed it.

The close proximity of both regions has led many to the same speculation, only to be surprised by the fact that the Mediterranean, very early on, was more of a migration barrier than a migration facilitator. Remember that people migrated primarily by foot, before taking to sea.

It was this different early stages in our development that really delineated the differences between the two peoples. All other admixture events, and there were about three, really weren't big enough to supersede this foundation.

As for why you, as an Afghan may share a greater affinity, I do not know enough to say. I do know that you guys run along the same genetic cline, so to speak, even if if you aren't closely related within the cline.

But eventually those Bracin_N+WHG neolithic farmers (that's what EEF really is) did expand across the straits of Gibraltar, and replace/absorbing the Iberomuasians, thus bringing NW Africa into the cardinal ware culture fold. Compare the Ifri N'Ammar to the kelif el boroud (KEB) samples and you see the difference.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/02/20/191569.full.pdf

[Adamastor]

I disagree with this because we don't cluster with each other in maps. We don't even cluster with EEF. They have a significant amount of Iberomasurian, which is their founding population. We don't have that. We have significant amounts of WHG, which they don't have.

It's not the SSA, it's the foundation. Seriously though, that's not how to do it. It's like saying, if Iberian's didn't have as much EEF and more Bell Beaker, we'd cluster with the British. (just throwing that out there as an example, I don't know if it is actually true). But then if that were so, they wouldn't be Iberians, they'd be British. You have to take the whole thing into account.

I'm not saying Iberians and North Africans are similar, quite the contrary. My point is to exactly explain why they are far away from Europeans even scoring loads of European components. The main reason for that is the SSA they score.

You can say North Africans are intermediary between Southwestern Europeans, Levantines and Subsaharans. They can be modeled roughly as 50% Neolithic European/Iberian, 40% Iberomaurusian, 10% SSA.

Given the fact part of Iberomaurusian (they can be modeled as half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt) is a very archaic stuff even more archaic than Basal Eurasian, with some relatedness to SSA type of ancestry, it's read as SSA by GEDmatch calculators. That's why North Africans are 20% SSA in GGEDmatch calculators even if they aren't really 20% SSA.

Iberomaurusian is roughly 55% proper West Eurasian and 45% some Basal stuff more archaic than Basal Eurasian. Only formal models can differentiate the latter from SSA, even if it's not real ''black'' ancestry.

[Nomansman]

I'm not saying Iberians and North Africans are similar, quite the contrary. My point is to exactly explain why they are far away from Europeans even scoring loads of European components. The main reason for that is the SSA they score.

You can say North Africans are intermediary between Southwestern Europeans, Levantines and Subsaharans. They can be modeled roughly as 50% Neolithic European/Iberian, 40% Iberomaurusian, 10% SSA.

Given the fact part of Iberomaurusian (they can be modeled as half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt) is a very archaic stuff even more archaic than Basal Eurasian, with some relatedness to SSA type of ancestry, it's read as SSA by GEDmatch calculators. That's why North Africans are 20% SSA in GGEDmatch calculators even if they aren't really 20% SSA.

Iberomaurusian is roughly 55% proper West Eurasian and 45% some Basal stuff more archaic than Basal Eurasian. Only formal models can differentiate the latter from SSA, even if it's not real ''black'' ancestry.

So theyre more easteurasian, meaning they can easily be on avg 75% westeurasian.

Explains a lot why they dont look too euro as whole.

[Synapsid]

I'm not saying Iberians and North Africans are similar, quite the contrary. My point is to exactly explain why they are far away from Europeans even scoring loads of European components. The main reason for that is the SSA they score.

You can say North Africans are intermediary between Southwestern Europeans, Levantines and Subsaharans. They can be modeled roughly as 50% Neolithic European/Iberian, 40% Iberomaurusian, 10% SSA.

Given the fact part of Iberomaurusian (they can be modeled as half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt) is a very archaic stuff even more archaic than Basal Eurasian, with some relatedness to SSA type of ancestry, it's read as SSA by GEDmatch calculators. That's why North Africans are 20% SSA in GGEDmatch calculators even if they aren't really 20% SSA.

Iberomaurusian is roughly 55% proper West Eurasian and 45% some Basal stuff more archaic than Basal Eurasian. Only formal models can differentiate the latter from SSA, even if it's not real ''black'' ancestry.

Taforalt is half Dzdzuana and half Ancestral North African not half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt.

[Nomansman]

Anyway, do anyone has any kabyle g25 coordinates? Im not sure if i modelled with any of them in OP and if you do, could you post them to me? Would like to try them out as well

[Synapsid]

So theyre more easteurasian, meaning they can easily be on avg 75% westeurasian.

Explains a lot why they dont look too euro as whole.

East Eurasian!? East Eurasian are wholly crown Eurasians like Paleo-Europeans and WHG but East shifted with Dinesovan admixture. That 25% non-West Eurasians is an Basal ancestry that is more basal than Basal Eurasians, called Ancestral North Africans, who were (we can if infer via Iberomasurian DNA,) considered to be the earliest carrier of Y-DNA haplogroup E-clade.

[PaleoEuropean]

North Africans have around 10-15% SSA type of ancestry, what makes them far from Euros. If you removed the SSA they score in Eurogenes calculators they would be in between Levantine Arabs and Southwestern Europeans like Portuguese, Spaniards and Northern Italians.

SSA is very far removed from any other type of ancestry, even small bits can take someone very far from where he was supposed to plot based on the rest of his ancestry.

Look at results of people with 1/8 of SSA ancestry and the rest European, they are always very far from mainstream European cluster in most calculators. Most are at 14-18 of distance from their first population.

I think it depends on the region, I don't thing Algerians and Tunisians have that much SSA.

[Nassbean]

I disagree with this because we don't cluster with each other in maps. We don't even cluster with EEF. They have a significant amount of Iberomasurian, which is their founding population. We don't have that. We have significant amounts of WHG, which they don't have.

It's not the SSA, it's the foundation. Seriously though, that's not how to do it. It's like saying, if Iberian's didn't have as much EEF and more Bell Beaker, we'd cluster with the British. (just throwing that out there as an example, I don't know if it is actually true). But then if that were so, they wouldn't be Iberians, they'd be British. You have to take the whole thing into account.

Actually they have WHG too but in less proportion and most of coastal maghrebi have more anatolian like ancestry than iberomaurusian

[Nomansman]

Actually they have WHG too but in less proportion and most of coastal maghrebi have more anatolian like ancestry than iberomaurusian

Are any of the north morrocan samples in g25 kabyles? Do you have any kabyle g25 coordinates? I would like to see how they differ, if north morrocans arent kabyles

These guys seem kind of light tbh

[Adamastor]

Taforalt is half Dzdzuana and half Ancestral North African not half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt.

Yeah, you're right. Dzudzuana is firmly West Eurasian, but ANA is probably more archaic, but not exactly SSA. It's more basal than Basal Eurasian.

[Nomansman]

East Eurasian!? East Eurasian are wholly crown Eurasians like Paleo-Europeans and WHG but East shifted with Dinesovan admixture. That 25% non-West Eurasians is an Basal ancestry that is more basal than Basal Eurasians, called Ancestral North Africans, who were (we can if infer via Iberomasurian DNA,) considered to be the earliest carrier of Y-DNA haplogroup E-clade.

SOrry, but i didnt understand that much. Im not really good at this and kind of still a noob in this genetics stuff

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Why do you mention Southern Europeans but use exclusively Spanish samples? I don't get it, especially when you take into account that Spaniards are the furthest away from Moroccan samples when it comes to Southern Europeans. Italians and other Southeastern Europeans like Greeks and Albanians share more affinity with Moroccans genetically (albeit still distant). This is because those populations have significant east med and west asian ancestry that most Iberians lack on the same proportion and is to be found among Morocans too.

[Nomansman]

Why do you mention Southern Europeans but use exclusively Spanish samples? I don't get it, especially when you take into account that Spaniards are the furthest away from Moroccan samples when it comes to Southern Europeans. Italians and other Southeastern Europeans like Greeks and Albanians share more affinity with Moroccans genetically (albeit still distant). This is because those populations have significant east med and west asian ancestry that most Iberians lack on the same proportion and is to be found among Morocans too.

Yeah, they actually do. Little suprised by that.

I can post some results with same samples. Anyway, i was just too lazy to use other samples, but i can do that

[Nassbean]

Are any of the north morrocan samples in g25 kabyles? Do you have any kabyle g25 coordinates? I would like to see how they differ, if north morrocans arent kabyles

These guys seem kind of light tbh

Wait I will ask someone

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Yeah, they actually do. Little suprised by that.

I can post some results with same samples. Anyway, i was just too lazy to use other samples, but i can do that

It is not really surprising because Iberians individually at most can be ~10% North African (depending on the region), whereas the global average is roughly ~5%. It is not enough to drag us closer to North Africans in comparison with other Southern Europeans who are 50% or more West Mediterranean+Eastern Mediterranean+West Asian genetic wise (which Morocans are more or less about the same).

[FountainOfSalmacis]

Are we talking about the real moroccans?

[Morena]

But eventually those Bracin_N+WHG neolithic farmers (that's what EEF really is) did expand across the straits of Gibraltar, and replace/absorbing the Iberomuasians, thus bringing NW Africa into the cardinal ware culture fold. Compare the Ifri N'Ammar to the kelif el boroud (KEB) samples and you see the difference.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/02/20/191569.full.pdf
I didn't know that. I did know that the native Iberian culture at the time was more sophisticated at the time. Thanks.

I'm not saying Iberians and North Africans are similar, quite the contrary. My point is to exactly explain why they are far away from Europeans even scoring loads of European components. The main reason for that is the SSA they score.

You can say North Africans are intermediary between Southwestern Europeans, Levantines and Subsaharans. They can be modeled roughly as 50% Neolithic European/Iberian, 40% Iberomaurusian, 10% SSA.

Given the fact part of Iberomaurusian (they can be modeled as half Dzudzuana and half Taforalt) is a very archaic stuff even more archaic than Basal Eurasian, with some relatedness to SSA type of ancestry, it's read as SSA by GEDmatch calculators. That's why North Africans are 20% SSA in GGEDmatch calculators even if they aren't really 20% SSA.

Iberomaurusian is roughly 55% proper West Eurasian and 45% some Basal stuff more archaic than Basal Eurasian. Only formal models can differentiate the latter from SSA, even if it's not real ''black'' ancestry.

OK, thanks for clearing that up.

[Synapsid]

Yeah, you're right. Dzudzuana is firmly West Eurasian, but ANA is probably more archaic, but not exactly SSA. It's more basal than Basal Eurasian.

It had a deeper source ancestry than Basal Eurasian (which exist in Dzudzuana) but is quite removed from SSA. Basal Eurasian is possibly 80 kya. Crown Eurasian (the bulk of Non-africans who bred with Neanderthals) split SSA around 70-60,000 kya if we go by Y-DNA and mtDNA coalescence dating. But Dzudzuana is pretty much Anatolian hunter gatherer-like and less Basal than latter Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (who were 14% NAtufians who were 14% Taforalt/IAM thus 6% ANA) but not by much. Dzudzuana was geographically in the Caucasus and was replaced by CHG which was super ANE rich.

[Nomansman]

Now wit other south euro samples:


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0.16010010 Italian_Umbria
0.16014786 Greek_Izmir:GreecePhokaia60
0.16023640 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE252
0.16093911 Italian_Marche
0.16134161 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP14
0.16142344 Greek_Trabzon:G25008
0.16235781 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP16
0.16257440 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP18
0.16319961 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE231
0.16379478 Greek_Central_Anatolia:G2501
0.16385419 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE209
0.16435134 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP4
0.16515494 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.16581336 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP10
0.16616490 Greek_Trabzon:G25005
0.16623455 Italian_Tuscany
0.16750550 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.16809224 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE59
0.16826600 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF28k
0.16829436 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP3
0.16867128 Greek_Trabzon:G25010
0.16911512 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17
0.17023448 Albanian
0.17037206 Italian_Liguria
0.17084381 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP5
0.17147247 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.17218615 Greek_Trabzon:G25004
0.17226505 Greek_Trabzon:G25006
0.17254142 Greek_Trabzon:G25007
0.17270010 Italian_Piedmont
0.17282618 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.17286418 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP12
0.17302725 Greek_Trabzon:G25002
0.17325993 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.17339489 Greek_Trabzon:G25009
0.17384988 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP9
0.17738865 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.17771738 Greek_Trabzon:G25003
0.17780172 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.17781831 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP15
0.17895925 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.17923211 Italian_Lombardy
0.18095672 Italian_Bergamo
0.18237950 Italian_Veneto
0.18251677 Greek_Trabzon:G25001
0.18375392 Greek_Thrace:G250001
0.18440253 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.18702226 Italian_Northeast
0.19347713 Italian_Aosta_Valley



Distance to: Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.13690860 Italian_Jew
0.14527135 Sicilian_West
0.15033752 Italian_Calabria
0.15046295 Sicilian_East
0.15283496 Greek_Crete:Crete7
0.15345461 Italian_Campania
0.15530266 Greek_Crete:Crete4
0.15643368 Italian_Basilicata
0.15729959 Italian_Apulia
0.15752363 Greek_Crete:Crete6
0.15818130 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos1
0.15841908 Greek_Crete:Crete8
0.15920111 Italian_Abruzzo
0.15961093 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos4
0.15967544 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos2
0.15977771 Greek_Crete:Crete5
0.16053209 Italian_Lazio
0.16098989 Greek_Crete:B_Crete-2
0.16123880 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos5
0.16137368 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos9
0.16205646 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos8
0.16218021 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos7
0.16224574 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos6
0.16269752 Italian_Molise
0.16276047 Greek_Izmir:GreeceSmyrna58
0.16289249 Italian_Umbria
0.16328021 Greek_Crete:Crete3
0.16382312 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF51k
0.16387776 Greek_Crete:Crete2
0.16389964 Greek_Crete:Crete10
0.16421722 Italian_Marche
0.16523300 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF69k
0.16535681 Greek_Izmir:GreeceSmyrna4
0.16536643 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP14
0.16563523 Greek_Izmir:GreeceSmyrna30
0.16587248 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP18
0.16658678 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF36k
0.16676367 Greek_Izmir:GreeceSmyrna9
0.16734376 Italian_Tuscany
0.16739039 Greek_Crete:B_Crete-1
0.16739778 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP16
0.16739873 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF52k
0.16859789 Greek_Crete:Crete9
0.16866167 Italian_Liguria
0.16918279 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE252
0.16990725 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE144
0.17009471 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE126
0.17026795 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP4
0.17032251 Greek_Kos:GreeceKos10
0.17086588 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE209
0.17162120 Greek_Izmir:GreecePhokaia60
0.17192115 Italian_Piedmont
0.17194462 Greek_Peloponnese:GreeceNE231
0.17209806 Greek_Central_Anatolia:G2503
0.17223512 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE59
0.17338934 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP3
0.17395457 Greek_Izmir:GreeceF28k
0.17476008 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP10
0.17487810 Albanian
0.17492473 Greek_Thessaly:GreeceNE162
0.17531715 Italian_Lombardy
0.17691817 Italian_Bergamo
0.17698977 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP5
0.17712341 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP11
0.17735906 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE34
0.17785199 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP17
0.17797521 Greek_Central_Anatolia:G2502
0.17798845 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP9
0.17983523 Italian_Veneto
0.18036250 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP15
0.18094761 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.18131299 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP8
0.18188766 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GREEKGRALPOP12
0.18287484 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE8
0.18368191 Greek_Central_Anatolia:G2501
0.18389615 Greek_Central_Macedonia:GreeceNE11
0.18510413 Italian_Northeast
0.18545624 Greek_Trabzon:G25008
0.18915879 Greek_Thrace:G250001
0.19050785 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.19065063 Greek_Trabzon:G25005
0.19311846 Greek_Trabzon:G25010
0.19474172 Greek_Trabzon:G25004
0.19611424 Greek_Trabzon:G25006
0.19679602 Greek_Trabzon:G25009
0.19744973 Greek_Trabzon:G25002
0.19755233 Greek_Trabzon:G25007
0.20036895 Greek_Trabzon:G25003
0.20288490 Greek_Trabzon:G25001


Yeah, theyre definetly closer to the other south euros(and further from portugese even compared to spanish)

[Adamastor]

It had a deeper source ancestry than Basal Eurasian (which exist in Dzudzuana) but is quite removed from SSA. Basal Eurasian is possibly 80 kya. Crown Eurasian (the bulk of Non-africans who bred with Neanderthals) split SSA around 70-60,000 kya if we go by Y-DNA and mtDNA coalescence dating. But Dzudzuana is pretty much Anatolian hunter gatherer-like and less Basal than latter Anatolian Neolithic Farmers (who were 14% NAtufians who were 14% Taforalt/IAM thus 6% ANA) but not by much. Dzudzuana was geographically in the Caucasus and was replaced by CHG which was super ANE rich.

Yeah, but older calculators and even some more recent can't differentiate ANA from SSA yet.

[Morena]

Why do you mention Southern Europeans but use exclusively Spanish samples? I don't get it, especially when you take into account that Spaniards are the furthest away from Moroccan samples when it comes to Southern Europeans. Italians and other Southeastern Europeans like Greeks and Albanians share more affinity with Moroccans genetically (albeit still distant). This is because those populations have significant east med and west asian ancestry that most Iberians lack on the same proportion and is to be found among Morocans too.

Geographic proximity + history

[Duffmannn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morisco

[Synapsid]

SOrry, but i didnt understand that much. Im not really good at this and kind of still a noob in this genetics stuff

Yeah I was once a noob. People talk about East Eurasians a lot here in the genetic section.

[Adamastor]

By the way, Moroccans are very far even from Levantine Arabs and Egyptians, they are quite unique genetically. A blend of West Med + East Med + local African stuff.

[Nassbean]

Are we talking about the real moroccans?

https://media.giphy.com/media/12msOFU8oL1eww/source.gif

[Nassbean]

What I don't understand is why are there all those genetic studies about north africans if we still don't have any genetic sample of capsians ? They are considered by most specialist as "proto-berbers" and they were from the Near-east

[Synapsid]

Geographic proximity + history

Cultural gap is much bigger. The attitude to Women, Human sexuality, drinks, Music Genre, Political views (free spreech etc), language, clothing, HDI, and especially religiosity is like day and night

[Nassbean]

Historically we were ennemies with southern european nations for centuries ...look at the corsican or sardinian flag lol

[Adamm]

Are any of the north morrocan samples in g25 kabyles? Do you have any kabyle g25 coordinates? I would like to see how they differ, if north morrocans arent kabyles

These guys seem kind of light tbh

These are the coordinates of a Kabyle woman (blond haired):

Kabyle_scaled,-0.03187,0.137096,-0.001508,-0.069122,0.033545,-0.021196,-0.020681,0.003461,0.055017,0.028429,0.009906,-0.005245,0.014569,-0.012799,0.007872,-0.022142,0.001304,-0.01837,-0.041103,0.007128,-0.01435,-0.031655,0.01442,-0.003735,0.007185

[Synapsid]

I disagree with this because we don't cluster with each other in maps. We don't even cluster with EEF. They have a significant amount of Iberomasurian, which is their founding population. We don't have that. We have significant amounts of WHG, which they don't have.

It's not the SSA, it's the foundation. Seriously though, that's not how to do it. It's like saying, if Iberian's didn't have as much EEF and more Bell Beaker, we'd cluster with the British. (just throwing that out there as an example, I don't know if it is actually true). But then if that were so, they wouldn't be Iberians, they'd be British. You have to take the whole thing into account.

tbh the British Neolithic population was wiped out by the bell beakers. In Iberia, they pretty destroyed the Neolithic cultures of Iberia and slaughtered most of the males. They were pretty much genocidal.

[Nomansman]

These are the coordinates of a Kabyle woman (blond haired):

Kabyle_scaled,-0.03187,0.137096,-0.001508,-0.069122,0.033545,-0.021196,-0.020681,0.003461,0.055017,0.028429,0.009906,-0.005245,0.014569,-0.012799,0.007872,-0.022142,0.001304,-0.01837,-0.041103,0.007128,-0.01435,-0.031655,0.01442,-0.003735,0.007185



Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.14063315 Spanish_Canarias
0.14582608 Greek_Kos
0.14657451 Greek_Crete
0.15605455 Greek_Izmir
0.15696725 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.16147110 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16721970 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16750623 Greek_Thessaly
0.16875307 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17023448 Albanian
0.17048448 Greek_Trabzon
0.17082265 Spanish_Murcia
0.17135565 Spanish_Andalucia
0.17293167 Spanish_Galicia
0.17298122 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17738909 Spanish_Eivissa
0.17750177 Spanish_Menorca
0.17950842 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17965288 Spanish_Baleares
0.18178846 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18195698 Spanish_Asturias
0.18231506 Spanish_Valencia
0.18344408 Bulgarian
0.18361684 Spanish_Cataluna
0.18375392 Greek_Thrace
0.18402155 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18577862 Spanish_Aragon
0.18581114 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.18623690 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.18665820 Spanish_Girona
0.18670643 Spanish_Castello
0.18711012 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18740134 Spanish_Pirineu
0.18745323 Spanish_Penedes
0.18825617 Spanish_Lleida
0.18865292 Spanish_Navarra
0.18939154 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19007717 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19027933 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19374550 Spanish_Soria
0.20638033 Spanish_Pais_Vasco



Distance to: Jama0112_scaled
0.16125944 Greek_Trabzon
0.16989833 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.17553832 Greek_Crete
0.17743714 Bulgarian
0.17844029 Greek_Kos
0.17919922 Greek_Izmir
0.18154599 Greek_Thrace
0.18184269 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18224800 Greek_Thessaly
0.18344981 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18495574 Albanian
0.20364311 Spanish_Mallorca
0.20387353 Spanish_Canarias
0.20413058 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20458581 Spanish_Eivissa
0.20503837 Spanish_Penedes
0.20607058 Spanish_Girona
0.20642507 Spanish_Baleares
0.20645434 Spanish_Galicia
0.20700760 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20714104 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20717654 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20760288 Spanish_Menorca
0.20826710 Spanish_Murcia
0.20992130 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20996212 Spanish_Valencia
0.21000075 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.21029031 Spanish_Lleida
0.21047748 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.21122468 Spanish_Barcelones
0.21172941 Spanish_Cataluna
0.21191334 Spanish_Pirineu
0.21228095 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.21274856 Spanish_Castello
0.21315191 Spanish_Aragon
0.21396886 Spanish_Cantabria
0.21565419 Spanish_Soria
0.21635500 Spanish_Navarra
0.21660789 Spanish_Asturias
0.22749211 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.22802473 Spanish_La_Rioja




Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.14626743 Spanish_Canarias
0.17487017 Greek_Crete
0.17494449 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17657262 Greek_Kos
0.17836774 Spanish_Andalucia
0.17885307 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17939766 Spanish_Murcia
0.18001503 Spanish_Galicia
0.18176304 Greek_Izmir
0.18431385 Spanish_Asturias
0.18668470 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18693642 Spanish_Menorca
0.18711617 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18720687 Greek_Thessaly
0.18761620 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.18975389 Spanish_Baleares
0.18986345 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18988267 Spanish_Valencia
0.18998325 Albanian
0.19025414 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19128887 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19196607 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19218094 Spanish_Aragon
0.19303281 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.19449651 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19455138 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19464116 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19469133 Spanish_Navarra
0.19530765 Spanish_Castello
0.19584933 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19608976 Spanish_Girona
0.19623469 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.19674620 Spanish_Penedes
0.19675511 Spanish_Lleida
0.19725714 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19916029 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.20142806 Greek_Thrace
0.20247312 Spanish_Soria
0.20254566 Bulgarian
0.20529777 Greek_Trabzon
0.20999944 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.23298472 English_Cornwall:HG00239





Doesnt seem too different from the other north morroccans. Seems like N morroccans from g25 spreadsheet are just like kabyles autosomally.
Ironically although she be closer to italians and ashknezi jews(not even much closer to them), im closer to russians significantly and slightly closer maybe to germans and irish people as well, despite me being paki looking and my genetics being maybe even more alien than hers to euros...i think?


Well, thanks a lot for the coordinates and clarifying that 1/3 of the north african samples in g25 spreadsheet can be taken as kabyles.

[Adamm]

Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.14063315 Spanish_Canarias
0.14582608 Greek_Kos
0.14657451 Greek_Crete
0.15605455 Greek_Izmir
0.15696725 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.16147110 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16721970 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16750623 Greek_Thessaly
0.16875307 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17023448 Albanian
0.17048448 Greek_Trabzon
0.17082265 Spanish_Murcia
0.17135565 Spanish_Andalucia
0.17293167 Spanish_Galicia
0.17298122 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17738909 Spanish_Eivissa
0.17750177 Spanish_Menorca
0.17950842 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.17965288 Spanish_Baleares
0.18178846 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18195698 Spanish_Asturias
0.18231506 Spanish_Valencia
0.18344408 Bulgarian
0.18361684 Spanish_Cataluna
0.18375392 Greek_Thrace
0.18402155 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18577862 Spanish_Aragon
0.18581114 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.18623690 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.18665820 Spanish_Girona
0.18670643 Spanish_Castello
0.18711012 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18740134 Spanish_Pirineu
0.18745323 Spanish_Penedes
0.18825617 Spanish_Lleida
0.18865292 Spanish_Navarra
0.18939154 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19007717 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19027933 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19374550 Spanish_Soria
0.20638033 Spanish_Pais_Vasco



Distance to: Jama0112_scaled
0.16125944 Greek_Trabzon
0.16989833 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.17553832 Greek_Crete
0.17743714 Bulgarian
0.17844029 Greek_Kos
0.17919922 Greek_Izmir
0.18154599 Greek_Thrace
0.18184269 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18224800 Greek_Thessaly
0.18344981 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18495574 Albanian
0.20364311 Spanish_Mallorca
0.20387353 Spanish_Canarias
0.20413058 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20458581 Spanish_Eivissa
0.20503837 Spanish_Penedes
0.20607058 Spanish_Girona
0.20642507 Spanish_Baleares
0.20645434 Spanish_Galicia
0.20700760 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20714104 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20717654 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20760288 Spanish_Menorca
0.20826710 Spanish_Murcia
0.20992130 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20996212 Spanish_Valencia
0.21000075 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.21029031 Spanish_Lleida
0.21047748 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.21122468 Spanish_Barcelones
0.21172941 Spanish_Cataluna
0.21191334 Spanish_Pirineu
0.21228095 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.21274856 Spanish_Castello
0.21315191 Spanish_Aragon
0.21396886 Spanish_Cantabria
0.21565419 Spanish_Soria
0.21635500 Spanish_Navarra
0.21660789 Spanish_Asturias
0.22749211 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.22802473 Spanish_La_Rioja




Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.14626743 Spanish_Canarias
0.17487017 Greek_Crete
0.17494449 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17657262 Greek_Kos
0.17836774 Spanish_Andalucia
0.17885307 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.17939766 Spanish_Murcia
0.18001503 Spanish_Galicia
0.18176304 Greek_Izmir
0.18431385 Spanish_Asturias
0.18668470 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18693642 Spanish_Menorca
0.18711617 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18720687 Greek_Thessaly
0.18761620 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.18975389 Spanish_Baleares
0.18986345 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18988267 Spanish_Valencia
0.18998325 Albanian
0.19025414 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19128887 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19196607 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19218094 Spanish_Aragon
0.19303281 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.19449651 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19455138 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19464116 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19469133 Spanish_Navarra
0.19530765 Spanish_Castello
0.19584933 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19608976 Spanish_Girona
0.19623469 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.19674620 Spanish_Penedes
0.19675511 Spanish_Lleida
0.19725714 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19916029 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.20142806 Greek_Thrace
0.20247312 Spanish_Soria
0.20254566 Bulgarian
0.20529777 Greek_Trabzon
0.20999944 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.23298472 English_Cornwall:HG00239





Doesnt seem too different from the other north morroccans. Seems like N morroccans from g25 spreadsheet are just like kabyles autosomally.
Ironically although she be closer to italians and ashknezi jews(not even much closer to them), im closer to russians significantly and slightly closer maybe to germans and irish people as well, despite me being paki looking and my genetics being maybe even more alien than hers to euros...i think?


Well, thanks a lot for the coordinates and clarifying that 1/3 of the north african samples in g25 spreadsheet can be taken as kabyles.

Kabyles and North Moroccans are autosomally wise not that different, I'm North Moroccan but according to LM-Genetics I'm not different from Kabyle.

https://i.imgur.com/5pEjaOM.png

You are closer to German and Irish maybe because of some Yemnaya old ancestry?

[Nomansman]

Kabyles and North Moroccans are autosomally wise not that different, I'm North Moroccan but according to LM-Genetics I'm not different from Kabyle.

https://i.imgur.com/5pEjaOM.png

You are closer to German and Irish maybe because of some Yemnaya old ancestry?

Yeah, but thing is that on those gedmatch tests i get like only 1/3 euro components of what euros get, while morroccans and north africans in general are very med shifted(albeit having a huge affinity to egyptians and can have REALLY high "SW-Asian" like on harappaworld). Maybe its also because of the slight african admix in north africans?

Its interesting that most euro berbers arent even actually close to most north african admix canaria spanish. THere really is a huge difference between northerners and south euros after all, specially spanish. THe difference between italians and berbers is interesting smaller(slightly), specially with sicillians

[Nomansman]

Hey, can anyone do a good modelling with the kabyle sample, but with some saudi alike arab, some ssa type and some south euro sample? And specially sardinian? Some guy i know is really interested to see how north africans can get modelled with modern samples. And it be nice with the ones i listed.

[Chaos One]

Even with 0% SSA they would plot somewhat far from South Euros because their main components tend to be different. I know some calculators would plot them equally or closer (like some K3 or those who work more with West/East Med), but when you break down into both Meds, Atlantic and so goes on, things start to go apart easily.

Using a huge gamma of possibilities: a common Moroccan have more Red Sea than any Euro; have more North African than any other Euro (maybe only Guanches can get a bit closer); have less Atlantic and/or any other Euro related (North Sea, East Euro, Baltic, Siberian, Caucasian, etc). Those differences create that gap easily. And the same applies to any other NA group like Kabylies or Tunisians, because the core is the same.

Still, it dows not mean that in terms of phenotype, is impossible to have a blonde North African with light eyes, because those are two different things at some point. That being said, you can have an Euro and a Moroccan being both Gracile Med with same traits...but genetically they will have clear differences.

[Nomansman]

Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.05973677 Saharawi:SAH48
0.06340519 Saharawi:SAH2
0.06564497 Saharawi:SAH13
0.06826873 Saharawi:SAH6
0.06928468 Saharawi:SAH7
0.06985444 Saharawi:SAH58
0.07253339 Saharawi:SAH24
0.07256543 Saharawi:SAH21
0.07485296 Saharawi:SAH59
0.07525236 Saharawi:SAH14
0.07583501 Saharawi:SAH31
0.07697205 Saharawi:SAH49
0.07796564 Saharawi:SAH41
0.07902081 Saharawi:SAH27
0.07943212 Saharawi:SAH9
0.08032658 Saharawi:SAH22
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0.40304491 Kirghiz:Bishkek28456
0.40424003 Mansi:Mansi91
0.40788500 Kirghiz:Bishkek28452
0.40946142 Kirghiz:Bishkek28442
0.40948405 Kirghiz:Bishkek28445
0.40957487 Mansi:Mansi94
0.41011484 Kirghiz:Bishkek28443
0.41403042 Mansi:Mansi79
0.41465941 Mansi:Mansi76
0.41506462 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI13
0.42241807 Kirghiz:Bishkek28449
0.42547882 Kirghiz:Bishkek28451
0.42550960 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI3
0.42558244 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI21
0.42838685 Kirghiz:Bishkek28454
0.42904822 Masai:NA21514
0.42929956 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI5
0.43221956 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI9
0.43237532 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI5
0.43301004 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI15
0.43335172 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI1
0.43786823 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI20
0.43939118 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI7
0.43939319 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI19
0.43981837 Ethiopian_Ari:T_Aari-2.DG
0.43996277 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI14
0.44134103 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI18
0.44191260 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI8
0.44268278 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI6
0.44341920 Ethiopian_Ari:T_Aari-1.DG
0.44640333 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI4
0.44746963 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI11
0.44943114 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI11
0.45119982 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI7
0.45164635 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI2
0.45670118 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI6
0.45690801 Masai:NA21400
0.45986564 Masai:NA21648
0.46108415 Masai:NA21425
0.46405455 Masai:NA21581
0.46940512 Masai:NA21487
0.47132497 Masai:Ayodo_103M
0.47359901 Masai:Ayodo_101M
0.48844161 Kikuyu:Ayodo_83K
0.49442863 Kikuyu:Ayodo_61K
0.51422359 Kikuyu:Ayodo_47K
0.51831728 Kikuyu:Ayodo_67K
0.52998129 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ13
0.54976394 Ethiopian_Mursi:T_Mursi-2.DG
0.55264127 Ethiopian_Mursi:T_Mursi-1.DG
0.55498865 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ17
0.55527450 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ4
0.55536590 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ11
0.55593645 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ16
0.55597610 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041154
0.55750375 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041174
0.55752346 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041159
0.55753911 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041153
0.55871161 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041168
0.55902328 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ18
0.55937516 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041166
0.55990682 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041162
0.56039776 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041170
0.56128584 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041161
0.56336026 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041167
0.56355556 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041155
0.56364666 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041158
0.56408071 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041171
0.56415888 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041172
0.56471998 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041175
0.56476075 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041184
0.56629018 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041151
0.56711721 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041225
0.56884512 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041157
0.56978818 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041169
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0.57061864 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041186
0.57079632 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041218
0.57144785 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041231
0.57179008 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041222
0.57201072 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041224
0.57209309 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041232
0.57272498 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041217
0.57390975 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041226
0.57398681 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041227
0.57546173 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041221
0.57571299 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01844
0.57581767 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041230
0.57586417 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041165
0.57617377 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041228
0.57675358 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01596
0.57750981 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01595
0.57791976 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01842
0.57793573 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041185
0.57804372 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041220
0.57828721 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041223
0.57916557 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041182
0.57992323 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041233
0.58180890 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041235
0.58258478 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK5
0.58354505 Nanai:AMU-628
0.58548097 Korean:Korean1
0.58605212 Korean:Korean2
0.58618698 Dai:B_Dai-4
0.58628970 Dai:HGDP01308
0.58679427 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01846
0.58740371 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK17
0.58834955 Nanai:AMU-555
0.58876969 Korean:Korean18
0.58890413 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK10
0.58959107 Korean:Korean27
0.59030355 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01598
0.59103439 Korean:Korean4
0.59113329 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK12
0.59123525 Korean:Korean21
0.59136139 Korean:Korean6
0.59143818 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK3
0.59159381 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK13
0.59169769 Korean:Korean8
0.59171652 Korean:Korean15
0.59212498 Korean:Korean3
0.59216554 Korean:Korean9
0.59228980 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK18
0.59232381 Korean:Korean10
0.59270804 Korean:Korean23
0.59280605 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01600
0.59309178 Korean:Korean7
0.59327938 Korean:Korean20
0.59354849 Nanai:AMU-636
0.59362544 Korean:Korean30
0.59381083 Korean:Korean22
0.59389334 Korean:Korean11
0.59408421 Korean:Korean13
0.59429551 Nanai:AMU-631
0.59431070 Korean:Korean28
0.59431952 Dai:HGDP01307
0.59464662 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01597
0.59466534 Korean:Korean25
0.59471318 Korean:Korean14
0.59475403 Korean:Korean24
0.59483747 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK15
0.59487810 Korean:Korean29
0.59497722 Nanai:AMU-601
0.59505772 Korean:Korean5
0.59599703 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK11
0.59600463 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK4
0.59647165 Dai:HGDP01309
0.59652332 Korean:Korean16
0.59665704 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK23
0.59665913 Nanai:AMU-559
0.59675246 Korean:Korean17
0.59749187 Korean:Korean19
0.59767305 Nanai:AMU-561
0.59821271 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK9
0.59833154 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK1
0.59885182 Korean:Korean26
0.59912427 Nanai:AMU-547
0.59921729 Nanai:AMU-549
0.59922155 Mandenka:HGDP00918
0.59984428 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK20
0.60069471 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK19
0.60145902 Korean:Korean12
0.60205710 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK7
0.60252127 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK6
0.60398416 Nanai:AMU-610
0.60411010 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK14
0.61158973 Mandenka:HGDP00915
0.61236062 Mandenka:HGDP00911
0.61414673 Bantu_Kenya:HGDP01417
0.61569165 Mandenka:HGDP00913
0.61577900 Mandenka:HGDP00906
0.61679341 Bantu_Kenya:S_BantuKenya-1.DG
0.61685383 Mandenka:HGDP00917
0.61905821 Mandenka:HGDP00905
0.62020794 Mandenka:HGDP01200
0.62086361 Mandenka:HGDP00904
0.62127212 Mandenka:HGDP00910
0.62199661 Mandenka:HGDP01199
0.62258023 Mandenka:HGDP01202
0.62476186 Mandenka:HGDP00912
0.62482187 Mandenka:HGDP00907
0.62517395 Mandenka:HGDP00908
0.62596230 Mandenka:B_Mandenka-3
0.62768263 Mandenka:HGDP00909
0.62803290 Mandenka:HGDP01201
0.62884712 Bantu_S.W.:KSP203
0.63189875 Bantu_S.W.:KSP204
0.63274728 Bantu_S.W.:KSP201
0.63469872 Bantu_S.W.:KSP198
0.63512251 Bantu_S.W.:KSP199
0.63532272 Bantu_S.W.:KSP200
0.63681121 Bantu_S.E.:KSP177
0.64031471 Bantu_S.E.:KSP179
0.64070762 Bantu_S.W.:KSP197
0.64184262 Bantu_S.E.:KSP181
0.64241072 Esan_Nigeria:HG03109
0.64521697 Esan_Nigeria:HG02943
0.64591716 Bantu_S.E.:KSP175
0.64629485 Esan_Nigeria:HG03108
0.64632409 Bantu_S.E.:KSP182
0.64706596 Esan_Nigeria:HG02974
0.64903998 Bantu_S.E.:KSP183
0.64925489 Bantu_S.E.:KSP176
0.64962769 Esan_Nigeria:HG02923
0.65071296 Esan_Nigeria:HG03100
0.65301520 Bantu_S.E.:KSP180
0.65310981 Esan_Nigeria:HG02922
0.65357419 Bantu_S.E.:KSP178
0.66184077 Esan_Nigeria:HG03099
0.76873425 Ju_hoan_North:S_Ju_hoan_North-2
0.77058973 Ju_hoan_North:S_Ju_hoan_North-1
0.78079495 Ju_hoan_North:S_Ju_hoan_North-3
0.84256886 Mbuti:B_Mbuti-4.DG
0.85130577 Mbuti:S_Mbuti-3.DG
0.86182313 Mbuti:S_Mbuti-1.DG
0.86445492 Mbuti:S_Mbuti-2.DG
0.95937616 Ju_hoan_North:A_Ju_hoan_North-5
0.96234867 Ju_hoan_North:B_Ju_hoan_North-4

[Nomansman]

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0.07799530 Saharawi:SAH7
0.07911838 Saharawi:SAH13
0.08115208 Saharawi:SAH48
0.08200179 Saharawi:SAH2
0.08388509 Saharawi:SAH58
0.08701196 Saharawi:SAH6
0.09029982 Saharawi:SAH59
0.09160115 Saharawi:SAH21
0.09165196 Saharawi:SAH24
0.09174434 Saharawi:SAH31
0.09504673 Saharawi:SAH41
0.09537860 Saharawi:SAH14
0.09667099 Saharawi:SAH9
0.09672649 Saharawi:SAH49
0.09764115 Saharawi:SAH22
0.10157180 Saharawi:SAH27
0.10159654 Saharawi:SAH40
0.10263113 Saharawi:SAH44
0.10690940 Saharawi:SAH34
0.10762006 Saharawi:SAH18
0.10905485 Saharawi:SAH10
0.10926429 Saharawi:SAH12
0.12572332 Maltese:Malta16AM91
0.13286550 Maltese:Malta2AM91
0.13306645 Maltese:Malta12AM91
0.13418475 Maltese:Malta17AM91
0.13421378 Maltese:Malta7AM91
0.14232499 Maltese:Malta15AM91
0.14377190 Maltese:Malta4AM91
0.14645693 Maltese:Malta8AM91
0.16611082 Saharawi:SAH3
0.22494477 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY17
0.23019396 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY2
0.23175098 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR4
0.23415718 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY16
0.23482611 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY19
0.23605268 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY9
0.23676045 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA16
0.23691678 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY6
0.23749547 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY21
0.23872043 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY18
0.23874075 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY10
0.23904275 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA24
0.23914566 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY3
0.23930849 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY1
0.23954437 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA14
0.24064015 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA25
0.24107032 Nomansman_scaled
0.24271058 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR8
0.24417130 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY12
0.24544273 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY8
0.24545498 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA2
0.24604594 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA21
0.24625213 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA17
0.24671124 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA19
0.24804422 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY20
0.24908008 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY13
0.24958704 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA6
0.24981387 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-2.DG
0.25271435 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA22
0.25414944 Ethiopian_Agaw:T_Agaw-1.DG
0.25486857 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA5
0.25562336 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1822
0.25568274 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA18
0.25796207 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA1
0.25972416 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118113
0.25990655 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO12
0.26121547 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew1831
0.26125249 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA3
0.26210001 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY11
0.26222989 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118092
0.26288433 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA7
0.26331710 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO11
0.26376319 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA4
0.26475505 Ethiopian_Jew:EthiopianJew4690
0.26641776 Ethiopian_Jew:GRC12118119
0.26749194 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO5
0.26880638 Ethiopian_Tigray:TYGRAY5
0.26970860 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO13
0.27103178 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA11
0.27258626 Ethiopian_Afar:AFAR9
0.27549598 Ethiopian_Amhara:AMHARA10
0.28093190 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO19
0.28344864 Hazara_Afghanistan:Hazara6_27Af
0.28408908 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO18
0.28520427 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO15
0.28725296 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO6
0.28777438 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO9
0.30153230 Hazara:HGDP00104
0.31109673 Hazara:HGDP00100
0.31414477 Somali:SOMALI6
0.31619612 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO21
0.31678905 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_43S
0.31683906 Somali:SOMALI14
0.31759581 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO7
0.31911951 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO8
0.31937555 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO3
0.32022183 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA1
0.32177352 Somali:SOMALI4
0.32329302 Somali:SOMALI12
0.32457170 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO2
0.32481037 Somali:SOMALI3
0.32517415 Somali:SOMALI7
0.32537183 Somali:SOMALI13
0.32541955 Somali:SOMALI15
0.32637765 Somali:SOMALI1
0.32638501 Somali:SOMALI2
0.32774554 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_34S
0.33075573 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_40S
0.33123120 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO20
0.33187050 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA5
0.33690156 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_61S
0.33738888 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO16
0.34354232 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_23S
0.34479934 Kazakh:607_A
0.34577023 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_69S
0.34729911 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_21S
0.34773385 Hazara:HGDP00102
0.34782122 Hazara_Afghanistan:Hazara6_2Af
0.34887403 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_35S
0.35113827 Ethiopian_Wolayta:WOLAYTA7
0.35115457 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_41S
0.35321612 Somali_Kenya:Ayodo_52S
0.35361275 Ethiopian_Oromo:OROMO1
0.35439041 Mansi:Mansi43
0.35578893 Hazara_Afghanistan:Hazara6_6Af
0.35700465 Hazara:HGDP00099
0.36005517 Hazara:HGDP00103
0.37567300 Kazakh:608_A
0.37779520 Kazakh:688_B
0.37899674 Mansi:Mansi48
0.37953727 Kazakh:689_B
0.38062455 Saharawi:SAH8
0.38127301 Mansi:Mansi56
0.38406571 Kazakh:597_B
0.38628023 Kazakh:608_B
0.39114027 Kazakh:690_B
0.39320143 Kazakh:690_A
0.40033458 Kazakh:734_A
0.40410289 Kirghiz:Bishkek28446
0.40736612 Mansi:Mansi91
0.40902712 Kazakh:689_A
0.41029120 Kirghiz:Bishkek28456
0.41293360 Mansi:Mansi94
0.41486978 Kirghiz:Bishkek28452
0.41649200 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI13
0.41651048 Kirghiz:Bishkek28442
0.41672685 Kirghiz:Bishkek28445
0.41732095 Mansi:Mansi79
0.41802952 Kirghiz:Bishkek28443
0.41841320 Mansi:Mansi76
0.42663584 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI21
0.42693903 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI3
0.42867206 Kirghiz:Bishkek28449
0.42995260 Masai:NA21514
0.43093007 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI5
0.43157209 Kirghiz:Bishkek28451
0.43370380 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI15
0.43374203 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI9
0.43408896 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI5
0.43432792 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI1
0.43619089 Kirghiz:Bishkek28454
0.43908305 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI20
0.44082468 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI7
0.44099331 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI19
0.44126995 Ethiopian_Ari:T_Aari-2.DG
0.44138651 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI14
0.44252920 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI18
0.44274740 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI8
0.44385925 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI6
0.44499387 Ethiopian_Ari:T_Aari-1.DG
0.44814772 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI4
0.44860940 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI11
0.45009717 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator:ARI11
0.45198415 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI2
0.45232123 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI7
0.45748844 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith:ARI6
0.45792660 Masai:NA21400
0.46014789 Masai:NA21648
0.46240046 Masai:NA21425
0.46441965 Masai:NA21581
0.46954809 Masai:NA21487
0.47089973 Masai:Ayodo_103M
0.47381749 Masai:Ayodo_101M
0.48669272 Kikuyu:Ayodo_83K
0.49248556 Kikuyu:Ayodo_61K
0.51198073 Kikuyu:Ayodo_47K
0.51624267 Kikuyu:Ayodo_67K
0.53013705 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ13
0.54943428 Ethiopian_Mursi:T_Mursi-2.DG
0.55260923 Ethiopian_Mursi:T_Mursi-1.DG
0.55414668 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ17
0.55492621 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ4
0.55503023 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ11
0.55579275 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ16
0.55859472 Ethiopian_Gumuz:GUMUZ18
0.55966187 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041154
0.56128252 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041159
0.56131901 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041153
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0.56712737 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041167
0.56746617 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041171
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0.56825395 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041172
0.56843083 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041175
0.56862386 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041184
0.56977634 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041151
0.57094455 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041225
0.57260132 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041157
0.57339399 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041183
0.57399201 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041169
0.57405181 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041186
0.57459490 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041218
0.57478361 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041231
0.57535389 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041232
0.57536770 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041222
0.57547004 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041224
0.57580941 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041217
0.57768052 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041226
0.57812649 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041227
0.57874660 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041221
0.57901190 Indonesian_Bali:GRC10041165
0.57948797 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041228
0.57984271 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041230
0.58123425 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01844
0.58130186 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK5
0.58141298 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041185
0.58181195 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041223
0.58199746 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041220
0.58236691 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01596
0.58306041 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041182
0.58342739 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01842
0.58344068 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01595
0.58373547 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041233
0.58528933 Indonesian_Java:GRC10041235
0.58667118 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK17
0.58763184 Nanai:AMU-628
0.58779962 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK10
0.59013869 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK12
0.59045579 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK3
0.59053361 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK13
0.59164959 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK18
0.59179893 Dai:HGDP01308
0.59189512 Dai:B_Dai-4
0.59233467 Nanai:AMU-555
0.59265528 Korean:Korean1
0.59288009 Kinh_Vietnam:HG01846
0.59331198 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK15
0.59345407 Mandenka:HGDP00918
0.59356400 Korean:Korean2
0.59463588 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK11
0.59501995 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK4
0.59557657 Korean:Korean18
0.59563276 Ethiopian_Anuak:ANUAK23
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This is very out of topic posts, but i just posted these for someone's request.

Interesting how less SSA berbers are almost equally as close to me as to horners. And now i see why some maltese people can look very non-euro


And now when i see its, its interesting to see how euro shifted berbers arent much closer to portugese and more pure spanish than some horners

[dududud]

No, they are close to other levant people.

Next thread.

[Grace O'Malley]

So who are the closest Europeans to North African populations? Anyway some European countries are closer to some non-European countries than to some European countries. It depends on geography. Most like West Asians are closer to Southeast Europeans than any North African country is to a European country. I might look at it sometime.

[Nomansman]

So who are the closest Europeans to North African populations? Anyway some European countries are closer to some non-European countries than to some European countries. It depends on geography. Most like West Asians are closer to Southeast Europeans than any North African country is to a European country. I might look at it sometime.

I think apart from north african admix individuals, most are at least gonna be a bit closer to each other than non-euros as whole(some south euros might be closer to southern neighbors slightly than to some russians)

[Cristiano viejo]

Its interesting that most euro berbers arent even actually close to most north african admix canaria spanish. THere really is a huge difference between northerners and south euros after all, specially spanish. THe difference between italians and berbers is interesting smaller(slightly), specially with sicillians
What made you think otherwise??? Spanish and North Africans are totally different people.

[Nomansman]

What made you think otherwise??? Spanish and North Africans are totally different people.

I didnt say you would be close, but i just expected you to be closer. Even canaria spanish and maltese as well are pretty far from most euro berbers

Guess you guys really are extremely different

[Grace O'Malley]

tbh the British Neolithic population was wiped out by the bell beakers. In Iberia, they pretty destroyed the Neolithic cultures of Iberia and slaughtered most of the males. They were pretty much genocidal.

I think the British Neolithic was in decline already by the time of the Bell Beakers. There has been studies done that show that this was in the case in Ireland and that there was a large populations decline in the neolithic due to weather conditions so not many survived. This would explain why Bell Beakers didn't take wives from the population like they did in Iberia and elsewhere. Bell Beakers were already mixed with Globular Amphora when they got to Britain and Ireland.

[Nordarya]

So who are the closest Europeans to North African populations? Anyway some European countries are closer to some non-European countries than to some European countries. It depends on geography. Most like West Asians are closer to Southeast Europeans than any North African country is to a European country. I might look at it sometime.

Kosovo and Albania.

[Nomansman]

Kosovo and Albania.

More like italians. Balkanites are a bit further

[Nassbean]

I didnt say you would be close, but i just expected you to be closer. Even canaria spanish and maltese as well are pretty far from most euro berbers

Guess you guys really are extremely different

the ancient inhabitants of the canary islands : guanches were like modern north africans but they have faced exterminations and massive colonization that's why modern canarians plot closer to iberians ( but still a lot of them feel more berber than anything else)

[Samnium]

I didnt say you would be close, but i just expected you to be closer. Even canaria spanish and maltese as well are pretty far from most euro berbers

Guess you guys really are extremely different

I do agree, and Maltese North-African is even more restricted than Canarian one.

If anything Maltese are relatively close to Levantines, even if removed, they are pretty much Sicilians with higher North-African and less Northern components if you talk about Syracusa province or Ragusa in southern Sicily that are the most northern shifted sicilian provinces.

Overall, very different from Northern Africans that are a mix of Iberomaurusian, Yoruban and also some Natufian.

[Nomansman]

the ancient inhabitants of the canary islands : guanches were like modern north africans but they have faced exterminations and massive colonization that's why modern canarians plot closer to iberians ( but still a lot of them feel more berber than anything else)

Kind of explains why their god(read a bt about it in wiki) were some kind of anubi type gods like egyptians

[Nomansman]

I do agree, and Maltese North-African is even more restricted than Canarian one.

If anything Maltese are relatively close to Levantines, even if removed, they are pretty much Sicilians with higher North-African and less Northern components if you talk about Syracusa province or Ragusa.

Overall, very different from Northern Africans that are a mix of Iberomaurusian, Yoruban and also some Natufian.

Yeah, never seen any of the berbers get any south euros below the distance of 13, apart from one canaria sample(at distance of 11,1). But even distance of 8 is kind of far, and 11,1 even more(talking about vahado g25)

[Nordarya]

More like italians. Balkanites are a bit further

No. E haplogroup is highest in Kosovo and Albania, followed by other Balkanite Mohammedans, such as Bosniaks. Percentages of E in Iberia and Italia are not so high, but higher than everywhere else in Europe. Basically, E is strongest wherever Shari'a law rules, both historically and contemporaneously.

[Nassbean]

Hey, can anyone do a good modelling with the kabyle sample, but with some saudi alike arab, some ssa type and some south euro sample? And specially sardinian? Some guy i know is really interested to see how north africans can get modelled with modern samples. And it be nice with the ones i listed.

here kabyle and north moroccan samples :

https://i.imgur.com/TPOmeJn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fbJ7gWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lqxnlSQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VKynHcN.jpg

here soussi results (south morocco/ very pure berbers) :

https://i.imgur.com/uPpZCla.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tlb6GBS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Qpgk5oP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8vtDsLD.jpg

here canarian results :

https://i.imgur.com/VDCrIIG.png
https://i.imgur.com/ygofpVI.jpg

sicilian result :

https://i.imgur.com/ek4HrNb.jpg

sorry it's not based on modern samples but it can already give you a good idea i think

[Nassbean]

Kind of explains why their god(read a bt about it in wiki) were some kind of anubi type gods like egyptians

Where have you read this ?? and no these guanches were quite isolated from other berbers and the egyptian influence on the berber culture is almost inexistent

[Nassbean]

I do agree, and Maltese North-African is even more restricted than Canarian one.

If anything Maltese are relatively close to Levantines, even if removed, they are pretty much Sicilians with higher North-African and less Northern components if you talk about Syracusa province or Ragusa in southern Sicily that are the most northern shifted sicilian provinces.

Overall, very different from Northern Africans that are a mix of Iberomaurusian, Yoruban and also some Natufian.

"yoruban" and "natufian" lol just take a look at the results i posted

[Cristiano viejo]

I didnt say you would be close, but i just expected you to be closer.

Why?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

So who are the closest Europeans to North African populations? Anyway some European countries are closer to some non-European countries than to some European countries. It depends on geography. Most like West Asians are closer to Southeast Europeans than any North African country is to a European country. I might look at it sometime.


Distance to: Libyan

0.16151658 Maltese
0.16757541 Cypriot
0.17024202 Spanish_Canarias
0.17308183 Sicilian_West
0.17493840 Italian_Calabria
0.17569354 Sicilian_East
0.17924467 Italian_Campania
0.18001448 Greek_Crete
0.18029936 Greek_Kos
0.18243870 Italian_Basilicata
0.18412350 Italian_Apulia
0.18714750 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18942713 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.18957744 Italian_Molise
0.19057218 Italian_Lazio
0.19101023 Greek_Izmir
0.19136714 Armenian
0.19457068 Italian_Marche
0.19479003 Italian_Umbria
0.19693137 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19804428 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19842792 Portuguese
0.19978836 Italian_Tuscany
0.20116041 Greek_Trabzon
0.20136411 Greek_Thessaly
0.20175738 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20234558 French_Corsica
0.20237539 Spanish_Murcia
0.20272181 Italian_Liguria
0.20321671 Greek_Central_Macedonia

Distance to: Egyptian

0.12710229 Cypriot
0.13352767 Maltese
0.14315584 Italian_Calabria
0.14437893 Greek_Kos
0.14517380 Greek_Crete
0.14533132 Sicilian_East
0.14577005 Sicilian_West
0.14774573 Armenian
0.14821456 Italian_Campania
0.14887010 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.15175901 Italian_Basilicata
0.15391510 Italian_Apulia
0.15812130 Italian_Abruzzo
0.15877382 Greek_Trabzon
0.15931618 Spanish_Canarias
0.16017309 Italian_Molise
0.16032143 Greek_Izmir
0.16335230 Italian_Lazio
0.16725141 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16776097 Italian_Marche
0.16863371 Italian_Umbria
0.17505955 Italian_Tuscany
0.17509000 Greek_Thessaly
0.17716058 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17803320 Albanian
0.18011246 French_Corsica
0.18196697 Italian_Liguria
0.18270862 Italian_Piedmont
0.18301552 Swiss_Italian
0.18386884 Spanish_Extremadura

Distance to: Tunisian

0.16312523 Maltese
0.16518466 Spanish_Canarias
0.17403334 Sicilian_West
0.17470788 Cypriot
0.17744979 Italian_Calabria
0.17783832 Sicilian_East
0.18146338 Italian_Campania
0.18391131 Greek_Crete
0.18463476 Italian_Basilicata
0.18476264 Greek_Kos
0.18585391 Italian_Apulia
0.18851237 Italian_Abruzzo
0.19118202 Italian_Molise
0.19130300 Italian_Lazio
0.19339496 Greek_Izmir
0.19384836 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19399806 Portuguese
0.19488960 Italian_Umbria
0.19516331 Italian_Marche
0.19630436 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19736642 Spanish_Andalucia
0.19827392 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19847902 Spanish_Murcia
0.19895274 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19915720 Spanish_Galicia
0.19954076 Italian_Tuscany
0.20021611 Armenian
0.20064634 French_Corsica
0.20084541 Italian_Liguria
0.20151309 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Algerian

0.17610502 Spanish_Canarias
0.17922278 Maltese
0.18979223 Sicilian_West
0.19383741 Italian_Calabria
0.19392755 Cypriot
0.19394286 Sicilian_East
0.19791978 Italian_Campania
0.20073142 Italian_Basilicata
0.20107130 Greek_Crete
0.20190174 Italian_Apulia
0.20221800 Greek_Kos
0.20416326 Italian_Abruzzo
0.20493250 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20519929 Portuguese
0.20654689 Italian_Lazio
0.20658152 Italian_Molise
0.20855362 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20915437 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20927694 Greek_Izmir
0.20955279 Italian_Umbria
0.20980977 Spanish_Murcia
0.21005118 Spanish_Galicia
0.21014129 Italian_Marche
0.21335525 Italian_Liguria
0.21356231 Italian_Tuscany
0.21397104 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.21424402 French_Corsica
0.21449852 Greek_Peloponnese
0.21494505 Spanish_Asturias
0.21586274 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Moroccan

0.19727118 Spanish_Canarias
0.19997446 Maltese
0.21082240 Sicilian_West
0.21295418 Cypriot
0.21468306 Italian_Calabria
0.21484467 Sicilian_East
0.21868390 Italian_Campania
0.22149064 Greek_Crete
0.22165641 Italian_Basilicata
0.22218946 Greek_Kos
0.22289985 Italian_Apulia
0.22522896 Italian_Abruzzo
0.22597676 Spanish_Extremadura
0.22631267 Portuguese
0.22765498 Italian_Molise
0.22768361 Italian_Lazio
0.22973784 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23010132 Greek_Izmir
0.23047944 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23073351 Italian_Umbria
0.23105771 Spanish_Murcia
0.23113643 Spanish_Galicia
0.23144843 Italian_Marche
0.23291198 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.23490473 Italian_Tuscany
0.23512566 Italian_Liguria
0.23547656 Greek_Peloponnese
0.23570948 Armenian
0.23572080 French_Corsica
0.23600400 Spanish_Asturias

[Grace O'Malley]

Distance to: Libyan

0.16151658 Maltese
0.16757541 Cypriot
0.17024202 Spanish_Canarias
0.17308183 Sicilian_West
0.17493840 Italian_Calabria
0.17569354 Sicilian_East
0.17924467 Italian_Campania
0.18001448 Greek_Crete
0.18029936 Greek_Kos
0.18243870 Italian_Basilicata
0.18412350 Italian_Apulia
0.18714750 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18942713 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.18957744 Italian_Molise
0.19057218 Italian_Lazio
0.19101023 Greek_Izmir
0.19136714 Armenian
0.19457068 Italian_Marche
0.19479003 Italian_Umbria
0.19693137 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19804428 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19842792 Portuguese
0.19978836 Italian_Tuscany
0.20116041 Greek_Trabzon
0.20136411 Greek_Thessaly
0.20175738 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20234558 French_Corsica
0.20237539 Spanish_Murcia
0.20272181 Italian_Liguria
0.20321671 Greek_Central_Macedonia

Distance to: Egyptian

0.12710229 Cypriot
0.13352767 Maltese
0.14315584 Italian_Calabria
0.14437893 Greek_Kos
0.14517380 Greek_Crete
0.14533132 Sicilian_East
0.14577005 Sicilian_West
0.14774573 Armenian
0.14821456 Italian_Campania
0.14887010 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.15175901 Italian_Basilicata
0.15391510 Italian_Apulia
0.15812130 Italian_Abruzzo
0.15877382 Greek_Trabzon
0.15931618 Spanish_Canarias
0.16017309 Italian_Molise
0.16032143 Greek_Izmir
0.16335230 Italian_Lazio
0.16725141 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16776097 Italian_Marche
0.16863371 Italian_Umbria
0.17505955 Italian_Tuscany
0.17509000 Greek_Thessaly
0.17716058 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17803320 Albanian
0.18011246 French_Corsica
0.18196697 Italian_Liguria
0.18270862 Italian_Piedmont
0.18301552 Swiss_Italian
0.18386884 Spanish_Extremadura

Distance to: Tunisian

0.16312523 Maltese
0.16518466 Spanish_Canarias
0.17403334 Sicilian_West
0.17470788 Cypriot
0.17744979 Italian_Calabria
0.17783832 Sicilian_East
0.18146338 Italian_Campania
0.18391131 Greek_Crete
0.18463476 Italian_Basilicata
0.18476264 Greek_Kos
0.18585391 Italian_Apulia
0.18851237 Italian_Abruzzo
0.19118202 Italian_Molise
0.19130300 Italian_Lazio
0.19339496 Greek_Izmir
0.19384836 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19399806 Portuguese
0.19488960 Italian_Umbria
0.19516331 Italian_Marche
0.19630436 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19736642 Spanish_Andalucia
0.19827392 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19847902 Spanish_Murcia
0.19895274 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19915720 Spanish_Galicia
0.19954076 Italian_Tuscany
0.20021611 Armenian
0.20064634 French_Corsica
0.20084541 Italian_Liguria
0.20151309 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Algerian

0.17610502 Spanish_Canarias
0.17922278 Maltese
0.18979223 Sicilian_West
0.19383741 Italian_Calabria
0.19392755 Cypriot
0.19394286 Sicilian_East
0.19791978 Italian_Campania
0.20073142 Italian_Basilicata
0.20107130 Greek_Crete
0.20190174 Italian_Apulia
0.20221800 Greek_Kos
0.20416326 Italian_Abruzzo
0.20493250 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20519929 Portuguese
0.20654689 Italian_Lazio
0.20658152 Italian_Molise
0.20855362 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20915437 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20927694 Greek_Izmir
0.20955279 Italian_Umbria
0.20980977 Spanish_Murcia
0.21005118 Spanish_Galicia
0.21014129 Italian_Marche
0.21335525 Italian_Liguria
0.21356231 Italian_Tuscany
0.21397104 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.21424402 French_Corsica
0.21449852 Greek_Peloponnese
0.21494505 Spanish_Asturias
0.21586274 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Moroccan

0.19727118 Spanish_Canarias
0.19997446 Maltese
0.21082240 Sicilian_West
0.21295418 Cypriot
0.21468306 Italian_Calabria
0.21484467 Sicilian_East
0.21868390 Italian_Campania
0.22149064 Greek_Crete
0.22165641 Italian_Basilicata
0.22218946 Greek_Kos
0.22289985 Italian_Apulia
0.22522896 Italian_Abruzzo
0.22597676 Spanish_Extremadura
0.22631267 Portuguese
0.22765498 Italian_Molise
0.22768361 Italian_Lazio
0.22973784 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23010132 Greek_Izmir
0.23047944 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23073351 Italian_Umbria
0.23105771 Spanish_Murcia
0.23113643 Spanish_Galicia
0.23144843 Italian_Marche
0.23291198 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.23490473 Italian_Tuscany
0.23512566 Italian_Liguria
0.23547656 Greek_Peloponnese
0.23570948 Armenian
0.23572080 French_Corsica
0.23600400 Spanish_Asturias

They are big distances as well. So this shows not much affinity. I'd like to see the distances for West Asians but they are obviously a lot closer to some Euro pops.

[Nordarya]

Distance to: Libyan

0.16151658 Maltese
0.16757541 Cypriot
0.17024202 Spanish_Canarias
0.17308183 Sicilian_West
0.17493840 Italian_Calabria
0.17569354 Sicilian_East
0.17924467 Italian_Campania
0.18001448 Greek_Crete
0.18029936 Greek_Kos
0.18243870 Italian_Basilicata
0.18412350 Italian_Apulia
0.18714750 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18942713 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.18957744 Italian_Molise
0.19057218 Italian_Lazio
0.19101023 Greek_Izmir
0.19136714 Armenian
0.19457068 Italian_Marche
0.19479003 Italian_Umbria
0.19693137 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19804428 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19842792 Portuguese
0.19978836 Italian_Tuscany
0.20116041 Greek_Trabzon
0.20136411 Greek_Thessaly
0.20175738 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20234558 French_Corsica
0.20237539 Spanish_Murcia
0.20272181 Italian_Liguria
0.20321671 Greek_Central_Macedonia

Distance to: Egyptian

0.12710229 Cypriot
0.13352767 Maltese
0.14315584 Italian_Calabria
0.14437893 Greek_Kos
0.14517380 Greek_Crete
0.14533132 Sicilian_East
0.14577005 Sicilian_West
0.14774573 Armenian
0.14821456 Italian_Campania
0.14887010 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.15175901 Italian_Basilicata
0.15391510 Italian_Apulia
0.15812130 Italian_Abruzzo
0.15877382 Greek_Trabzon
0.15931618 Spanish_Canarias
0.16017309 Italian_Molise
0.16032143 Greek_Izmir
0.16335230 Italian_Lazio
0.16725141 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16776097 Italian_Marche
0.16863371 Italian_Umbria
0.17505955 Italian_Tuscany
0.17509000 Greek_Thessaly
0.17716058 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17803320 Albanian
0.18011246 French_Corsica
0.18196697 Italian_Liguria
0.18270862 Italian_Piedmont
0.18301552 Swiss_Italian
0.18386884 Spanish_Extremadura

Distance to: Tunisian

0.16312523 Maltese
0.16518466 Spanish_Canarias
0.17403334 Sicilian_West
0.17470788 Cypriot
0.17744979 Italian_Calabria
0.17783832 Sicilian_East
0.18146338 Italian_Campania
0.18391131 Greek_Crete
0.18463476 Italian_Basilicata
0.18476264 Greek_Kos
0.18585391 Italian_Apulia
0.18851237 Italian_Abruzzo
0.19118202 Italian_Molise
0.19130300 Italian_Lazio
0.19339496 Greek_Izmir
0.19384836 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19399806 Portuguese
0.19488960 Italian_Umbria
0.19516331 Italian_Marche
0.19630436 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19736642 Spanish_Andalucia
0.19827392 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19847902 Spanish_Murcia
0.19895274 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19915720 Spanish_Galicia
0.19954076 Italian_Tuscany
0.20021611 Armenian
0.20064634 French_Corsica
0.20084541 Italian_Liguria
0.20151309 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Algerian

0.17610502 Spanish_Canarias
0.17922278 Maltese
0.18979223 Sicilian_West
0.19383741 Italian_Calabria
0.19392755 Cypriot
0.19394286 Sicilian_East
0.19791978 Italian_Campania
0.20073142 Italian_Basilicata
0.20107130 Greek_Crete
0.20190174 Italian_Apulia
0.20221800 Greek_Kos
0.20416326 Italian_Abruzzo
0.20493250 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20519929 Portuguese
0.20654689 Italian_Lazio
0.20658152 Italian_Molise
0.20855362 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20915437 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20927694 Greek_Izmir
0.20955279 Italian_Umbria
0.20980977 Spanish_Murcia
0.21005118 Spanish_Galicia
0.21014129 Italian_Marche
0.21335525 Italian_Liguria
0.21356231 Italian_Tuscany
0.21397104 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.21424402 French_Corsica
0.21449852 Greek_Peloponnese
0.21494505 Spanish_Asturias
0.21586274 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Moroccan

0.19727118 Spanish_Canarias
0.19997446 Maltese
0.21082240 Sicilian_West
0.21295418 Cypriot
0.21468306 Italian_Calabria
0.21484467 Sicilian_East
0.21868390 Italian_Campania
0.22149064 Greek_Crete
0.22165641 Italian_Basilicata
0.22218946 Greek_Kos
0.22289985 Italian_Apulia
0.22522896 Italian_Abruzzo
0.22597676 Spanish_Extremadura
0.22631267 Portuguese
0.22765498 Italian_Molise
0.22768361 Italian_Lazio
0.22973784 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23010132 Greek_Izmir
0.23047944 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23073351 Italian_Umbria
0.23105771 Spanish_Murcia
0.23113643 Spanish_Galicia
0.23144843 Italian_Marche
0.23291198 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.23490473 Italian_Tuscany
0.23512566 Italian_Liguria
0.23547656 Greek_Peloponnese
0.23570948 Armenian
0.23572080 French_Corsica
0.23600400 Spanish_Asturias

Must be shared Eurasian mtDNA for proximity, but Kosovo and Albania have the highest African Y-DNA.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Must be shared Eurasian mtDNA for proximity, but Kosovo and Albania have the highest African Y-DNA.

mtDNA doesn't necessarily have a correlation with modern humans autosomal results. If anything it is just a novelty to help you understand your ancestors migration patterns. You will have barely anything in common with the founder ancestor that carried your mtDNA mutation for the first time.

Albanians and Kosovars have the highest incidence of E-V13, that lineage can be traced back to the Horn of Africa but it isn't exactly an "African Y-DNA", it is a subclade from the early bronze age in Europe.

[Nomansman]

here kabyle and north moroccan samples :

https://i.imgur.com/TPOmeJn.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fbJ7gWh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lqxnlSQ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VKynHcN.jpg

here soussi results (south morocco/ very pure berbers) :

https://i.imgur.com/uPpZCla.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/tlb6GBS.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Qpgk5oP.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8vtDsLD.jpg

here canarian results :

https://i.imgur.com/VDCrIIG.png
https://i.imgur.com/ygofpVI.jpg

sicilian result :

https://i.imgur.com/ek4HrNb.jpg

sorry it's not based on modern samples but it can already give you a good idea i think

What? South morroccans are pure berbers? Can you send me coordinates?

I thought north morroccans/kabyles were pure berbers

[Nassbean]

What? South morroccans are pure berbers? Can you send me coordinates?

I thought north morroccans/kabyles were pure berbers

no not all south moroccans only people from isolated areas like the souss region and north moroccans and kabyles are "pure" in the sense that their ssa tend to be the lowest and sorry mate I don't have their coordinates it's just pics I saved some weeks ago

[Nomansman]

Where have you read this ?? and no these guanches were quite isolated from other berbers and the egyptian influence on the berber culture is almost inexistent

I think i did remember reading it in wiki about canarians. Maybe i saw wrong? Its weird though, i cant find that info on canarians in wiki anymore. I must have seen wrong

[Nassbean]

I think i did remember reading it in wiki about canarians. Maybe i saw wrong? Its weird though, i cant find that info on canarians in wiki anymore. I must have seen wrong

no problem bro

[Nomansman]

Why?

Because you live almost next to each other? Kind of expects neighbors to have some affinity to each other on everything.
I forgot about the med sea thing though.

[Nomansman]

Distance to: Libyan

0.16151658 Maltese
0.16757541 Cypriot
0.17024202 Spanish_Canarias
0.17308183 Sicilian_West
0.17493840 Italian_Calabria
0.17569354 Sicilian_East
0.17924467 Italian_Campania
0.18001448 Greek_Crete
0.18029936 Greek_Kos
0.18243870 Italian_Basilicata
0.18412350 Italian_Apulia
0.18714750 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18942713 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.18957744 Italian_Molise
0.19057218 Italian_Lazio
0.19101023 Greek_Izmir
0.19136714 Armenian
0.19457068 Italian_Marche
0.19479003 Italian_Umbria
0.19693137 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19804428 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19842792 Portuguese
0.19978836 Italian_Tuscany
0.20116041 Greek_Trabzon
0.20136411 Greek_Thessaly
0.20175738 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20234558 French_Corsica
0.20237539 Spanish_Murcia
0.20272181 Italian_Liguria
0.20321671 Greek_Central_Macedonia

Distance to: Egyptian

0.12710229 Cypriot
0.13352767 Maltese
0.14315584 Italian_Calabria
0.14437893 Greek_Kos
0.14517380 Greek_Crete
0.14533132 Sicilian_East
0.14577005 Sicilian_West
0.14774573 Armenian
0.14821456 Italian_Campania
0.14887010 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.15175901 Italian_Basilicata
0.15391510 Italian_Apulia
0.15812130 Italian_Abruzzo
0.15877382 Greek_Trabzon
0.15931618 Spanish_Canarias
0.16017309 Italian_Molise
0.16032143 Greek_Izmir
0.16335230 Italian_Lazio
0.16725141 Greek_Peloponnese
0.16776097 Italian_Marche
0.16863371 Italian_Umbria
0.17505955 Italian_Tuscany
0.17509000 Greek_Thessaly
0.17716058 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.17803320 Albanian
0.18011246 French_Corsica
0.18196697 Italian_Liguria
0.18270862 Italian_Piedmont
0.18301552 Swiss_Italian
0.18386884 Spanish_Extremadura

Distance to: Tunisian

0.16312523 Maltese
0.16518466 Spanish_Canarias
0.17403334 Sicilian_West
0.17470788 Cypriot
0.17744979 Italian_Calabria
0.17783832 Sicilian_East
0.18146338 Italian_Campania
0.18391131 Greek_Crete
0.18463476 Italian_Basilicata
0.18476264 Greek_Kos
0.18585391 Italian_Apulia
0.18851237 Italian_Abruzzo
0.19118202 Italian_Molise
0.19130300 Italian_Lazio
0.19339496 Greek_Izmir
0.19384836 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19399806 Portuguese
0.19488960 Italian_Umbria
0.19516331 Italian_Marche
0.19630436 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.19736642 Spanish_Andalucia
0.19827392 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19847902 Spanish_Murcia
0.19895274 Greek_Peloponnese
0.19915720 Spanish_Galicia
0.19954076 Italian_Tuscany
0.20021611 Armenian
0.20064634 French_Corsica
0.20084541 Italian_Liguria
0.20151309 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Algerian

0.17610502 Spanish_Canarias
0.17922278 Maltese
0.18979223 Sicilian_West
0.19383741 Italian_Calabria
0.19392755 Cypriot
0.19394286 Sicilian_East
0.19791978 Italian_Campania
0.20073142 Italian_Basilicata
0.20107130 Greek_Crete
0.20190174 Italian_Apulia
0.20221800 Greek_Kos
0.20416326 Italian_Abruzzo
0.20493250 Spanish_Extremadura
0.20519929 Portuguese
0.20654689 Italian_Lazio
0.20658152 Italian_Molise
0.20855362 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20915437 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20927694 Greek_Izmir
0.20955279 Italian_Umbria
0.20980977 Spanish_Murcia
0.21005118 Spanish_Galicia
0.21014129 Italian_Marche
0.21335525 Italian_Liguria
0.21356231 Italian_Tuscany
0.21397104 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.21424402 French_Corsica
0.21449852 Greek_Peloponnese
0.21494505 Spanish_Asturias
0.21586274 Greek_Thessaly

Distance to: Moroccan

0.19727118 Spanish_Canarias
0.19997446 Maltese
0.21082240 Sicilian_West
0.21295418 Cypriot
0.21468306 Italian_Calabria
0.21484467 Sicilian_East
0.21868390 Italian_Campania
0.22149064 Greek_Crete
0.22165641 Italian_Basilicata
0.22218946 Greek_Kos
0.22289985 Italian_Apulia
0.22522896 Italian_Abruzzo
0.22597676 Spanish_Extremadura
0.22631267 Portuguese
0.22765498 Italian_Molise
0.22768361 Italian_Lazio
0.22973784 Spanish_Andalucia
0.23010132 Greek_Izmir
0.23047944 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.23073351 Italian_Umbria
0.23105771 Spanish_Murcia
0.23113643 Spanish_Galicia
0.23144843 Italian_Marche
0.23291198 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.23490473 Italian_Tuscany
0.23512566 Italian_Liguria
0.23547656 Greek_Peloponnese
0.23570948 Armenian
0.23572080 French_Corsica
0.23600400 Spanish_Asturias

Can you do one with my coordinates as well?

Nomansman_scaled,0.093335,0.051792,-0.072784,0.042959,-0.06432,0.023706,0.00423,0.007615,-0.026179,-0.026242,-0.003085,0.003897,0.000595,-0.006331,0.019272,0.013126,-0.007953,-0.002154,0.002011,-0.014507,-0.003244,-0.013231,0.007025,-0.000361,0.005149

[Nassbean]

Because you live almost next to each other? Kind of expects neighbors to have some affinity to each other on everything.
I forgot about the med sea thing though.

there are only 13-15km between morocco and spain in the past the two areas were far more connected than today ( ancient south-eastern iberians were heavily mixed with north africans). And I'm not trying to associate my people with them by saying this lol just try to make things clear because the current situation can give the impression that this strait was a strong genetic barrier

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Can you do one with my coordinates as well?

Nomansman_scaled,0.093335,0.051792,-0.072784,0.042959,-0.06432,0.023706,0.00423,0.007615,-0.026179,-0.026242,-0.003085,0.003897,0.000595,-0.006331,0.019272,0.013126,-0.007953,-0.002154,0.002011,-0.014507,-0.003244,-0.013231,0.007025,-0.000361,0.005149


Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.15336860 Armenian
0.16125944 Greek_Trabzon
0.16989833 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.17553832 Greek_Crete
0.17743714 Bulgarian
0.17844029 Greek_Kos
0.17919922 Greek_Izmir
0.18154599 Greek_Thrace
0.18172211 Cypriot
0.18184269 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18196056 Italian_Calabria
0.18211060 Italian_Basilicata
0.18218734 Romanian
0.18223678 Italian_Molise
0.18224800 Greek_Thessaly
0.18292697 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18322904 Italian_Campania
0.18344981 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18354581 Sicilian_West
0.18426984 Macedonian
0.18437707 Sicilian_East
0.18439424 Italian_Apulia
0.18449294 Maltese
0.18495574 Albanian
0.18629556 Italian_Umbria
0.18719332 Italian_Marche
0.18783127 Swiss_Italian
0.18982982 Italian_Tuscany
0.19124382 Italian_Lazio
0.19173388 Italian_Piedmont


Your top 30 matches. Bear in mind that I only used Southern European samples as a source plus a few Caucasians. You are not really that close to any but it gives you an idea to whom you share more affinity nonetheless. What is your ethnicity?

[Avicenna]

Because you live almost next to each other? Kind of expects neighbors to have some affinity to each other on everything.
I forgot about the med sea thing though.

They are not as alien as you make them out to be. Moroccans are also neighbours to sub saharans to the south and yet they get them at a distance of 70 plus.

[Nordarya]

mtDNA doesn't necessarily have a correlation with modern humans autosomal results. If anything it is just a novelty to help you understand your ancestors migration patterns. You will have barely anything in common with the founder ancestor that carried your mtDNA mutation for the first time.

Albanians and Kosovars have the highest incidence of E-V13, that lineage can be traced back to the Horn of Africa but it isn't exactly an "African Y-DNA", it is a subclade from the early bronze age in Europe.

How is mtDNA any less influential than Y-DNA, insofar as autosomal totals go? Whether it's the Red Sea coast of the Horn and thus Ethiopian or Somalian, it's no less African than Mediterranean Egyptian or Berber.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

How is mtDNA any less influential than Y-DNA, insofar as autosomal totals go? Whether it's the Red Sea coast of the Horn and thus Ethiopian or Somalian, it's no less African than Mediterranean Egyptian or Berber.

Because there isn't necessarily a correlation autosomally. An E-V13 Norwegian won't be identical to an E-V13 Albanian.

[Nomansman]

Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.15336860 Armenian
0.16125944 Greek_Trabzon
0.16989833 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.17553832 Greek_Crete
0.17743714 Bulgarian
0.17844029 Greek_Kos
0.17919922 Greek_Izmir
0.18154599 Greek_Thrace
0.18172211 Cypriot
0.18184269 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.18196056 Italian_Calabria
0.18211060 Italian_Basilicata
0.18218734 Romanian
0.18223678 Italian_Molise
0.18224800 Greek_Thessaly
0.18292697 Italian_Abruzzo
0.18322904 Italian_Campania
0.18344981 Greek_Peloponnese
0.18354581 Sicilian_West
0.18426984 Macedonian
0.18437707 Sicilian_East
0.18439424 Italian_Apulia
0.18449294 Maltese
0.18495574 Albanian
0.18629556 Italian_Umbria
0.18719332 Italian_Marche
0.18783127 Swiss_Italian
0.18982982 Italian_Tuscany
0.19124382 Italian_Lazio
0.19173388 Italian_Piedmont


Your top 30 matches. Bear in mind that I only used Southern European samples as a source plus a few Caucasians. You are not really that close to any but it gives you an idea to whom you share more affinity nonetheless. What is your ethnicity?

I know that. Even at distance of 9 is kind of far

anyway, im an afghan pashtun. just wanted to see how further i was compared to kabyles to south euros

[Nomansman]

They are not as alien as you make them out to be. Moroccans are also neighbours to sub saharans to the south and yet they get them at a distance of 70 plus.

It makes even more sense they get sub saharans at even 100. They look exremetly different from each other like day and light. Even somalis look different from them a lot.

But tbh, if we exclude those south euros with questionable north african admix(even theyre kind of far), then at least they would be at distance of 16 to most euro berbers. Thats actually REALLY far. Even iranians are maybe closer

[Avicenna]

It makes even more sense they get sub saharans at even 100. They look exremetly different from each other like day and light. Even somalis look different from them a lot.

But tbh, if we exclude those south euros with questionable north african admix(even theyre kind of far), then at least they would be at distance of 16 to most euro berbers. Thats actually REALLY far. Even iranians are maybe closer

But if the most distant population at a 100 is still genetically 99. 9 percent similar to you and every other human, are we really that different?

[Leto]

no not all south moroccans only people from isolated areas like the souss region and north moroccans and kabyles are "pure" in the sense that their ssa tend to be the lowest
How sizeable is their number in relation to the entire population of Morocco?

[Nomansman]

But if the most distant population at a 100 is still genetically 99. 9 percent similar to you and every other human, are we really that different?

Lol, dude

I know we all have genetically affinity to each other, despite what other thinks

But now im just talking about autosomal results. Kabyles as whole just arent close to any euros at all and specially not non-berber admixed S euros

[Grace O'Malley]

there are only 13-15km between morocco and spain in the past the two areas were far more connected than today ( ancient south-eastern iberians were heavily mixed with north africans). And I'm not trying to associate my people with them by saying this lol just try to make things clear because the current situation can give the impression that this strait was a strong genetic barrier

Yes normally the sea is not a great genetic barrier. I've seen studies on Europeans and mountain ranges are a much greater genetic barrier to gene flow. North Africans today aren't close to any Europeans though and as these lists show Spanish aren't the closest Europeans either.

[Nassbean]

How sizeable is their number in relation to the entire population of Morocco?

who ? soussi or north moroccans?

[Nassbean]

Yes normally the sea is not a great genetic barrier. I've seen studies on Europeans and mountain ranges are a much greater genetic barrier to gene flow. North Africans today aren't close to any Europeans though and as these lists show Spanish aren't the closest Europeans either.

Actually the mediterranean sea as a whole played the role of a strong genetic barrier between the northern and southern shores like the sahara in Africa but the strait wasn't really a strong genetic barrier. The difference is even bigger today because of historical reasons : Muslim vs christian world , reconquista, expulsion of muslims in sicilia, same in Malta, etc

[Leto]

who ? soussi or north moroccans?
All those unadmixed people you talk about. I remember you even posted partial SS-blacks from Morocco.

[Grace O'Malley]

Actually the mediterranean sea as a whole played the role of a strong genetic barrier between the northern and southern shores like the sahara in Africa but the strait wasn't really a strong genetic barrier. The difference is even bigger today because of historical reasons : Muslim vs christian world , reconquista, expulsion of muslims in sicilia, same in Malta, etc

Yes of course, things like language, religion, the Reconquista etc are other factors but a study done on Europe showed that the biggest genetic barrier was mountains which is why Spaniards and Italians have less recent ancestors from other parts of Europe than other Europeans. It's just an interesting point. Religion though like Muslim vs Christian was an inhibitor to gene flow in the past.

[Nassbean]

All those unadmixed people you talk about. I remember you even posted partial SS-blacks from Morocco.

region of souss : 2 657 906 inhabitants
North morocco : around 8-9 million

Berbers from the middle and high atlas mountain also can be seen as "pure" imo and there are around 34 millions of moroccans so I'd say they make up a good portion of the population

[Nordarya]

Because there isn't necessarily a correlation autosomally. An E-V13 Norwegian won't be identical to an E-V13 Albanian.

No shit Sherlock. I'm autosomally British Isles but paternally Norwegian, itself not even originally Germanic either and maternally, I am likewise Iranic. I sure as hell don't cluster with Indo-Iranians, even though I go straight back by both parents to common rootstock, through Sarmatia and Scythia. I'm less than average for either cluster.

[Leto]

region of souss : 2 657 906 inhabitants
North morocco : around 8-9 million

Berbers from the middle and high atlas mountain also can be seen as "pure" imo and there are around 34 millions of moroccans so I'd say they make up a good portion of the population
Interesting. I find the Berbers to be a unique group.

Two quick questions: where are your from on the map? Just give the number.
And what about the Atlantic coast? 4 and 6,7 (Rabat, Marrakesh & Casablanca)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Morocco_Regions_2015.png

[Nassbean]

Interesting. I find the Berbers to be a unique group.

Two quick questions: where are your from on the map? Just give the number.
And what about the Atlantic coast? 4 and 6,7 (Rabat, Marrakesh & Casablanca)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Morocco_Regions_2015.png

I'm from the northern part of the number 2 and the atlantic coast today is a very diverse region even though people there are mainly berber : it's the region where most of the hilalian tribes (arabs) settled , It's also where a lot of moriscos settled (especially rabat and salé) , casablanca has attracted moroccans from all over the country it's not rare to meet haratin/black moroccans there. As for marrakech it's full of people with high amount of SSA because this city played an important role in the slave trade and it's not far from warzazat and zagora who are known for their big haratin community

[Adamm]

Interesting. I find the Berbers to be a unique group.

Two quick questions: where are your from on the map? Just give the number.
And what about the Atlantic coast? 4 and 6,7 (Rabat, Marrakesh & Casablanca)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Morocco_Regions_2015.png

4, 6 and 7 are the most mutt areas of Morocco, heavily inter-racial mixing on the west coast and the most liberal areas of Morocco. Endogamy within Berbers and conservatism is mostly found in number 2.

[Leto]

I'm from the northern part of the number 2 and the atlanctic coast today is a very diverse region even though people there are mainly berber : it's the region where most of the hilalian tribes (arabs) settled , It's also where a lot of moriscos settled (especially rabat and salé) , casablanca has attracted moroccans from all over the country it's not rare to meet haratin/black moroccans there. As for marrakech it's full of people with high amount of SSA because this city played an important role in the slave trade and it's not far from warzazat and zagora who are known for their big haratin community
Thanks for the info.

4, 6 and 7 are the most mutt areas of Morocco, heavily inter-racial mixing on the west coast and the most liberal areas of Morocco. Endogamy within Berbers and conservatism is mostly found in number 2.
Really? 3,5,8 also look like pretty inland areas. Unless someone would specifically resettle blacks in there xD

[Adamm]

Thanks for the info.

Really? 3,5,8 also look like pretty inland areas. Unless someone would specifically resettle blacks in there xD

9 and 8 has huge black communities (haratin ancestors) who settled there, 3 and 5 (Fes and Meknas) also huge mixing.

[Nomansman]

4, 6 and 7 are the most mutt areas of Morocco, heavily inter-racial mixing on the west coast and the most liberal areas of Morocco. Endogamy within Berbers and conservatism is mostly found in number 2.

Yeah, i saw really many black admixed morroccans in both marakesh and agadir(agadir is right next to marakech). Many of the people could even be darker than me, while most had my skin colour. Only some where light and nobody almost never looked euro(but 1/2 of people in marakech and 2/3 of people in agadir kind of looked like slightly darker version of morrocans nassbean posts a lot). Maybe i saw few lighter types in agadir, but thats it. Thats why im a bit suprised to see lighter morrocans Nassbean posts

[Nassbean]

Yeah, i saw really many black admixed morroccans in both marakesh and agadir(agadir is right next to marakech). Many of the people could even be darker than me, while most had my skin colour. Only some where light and nobody almost never looked euro(but 1/2 of people in marakech and 2/3 of people in agadir kind of looked like slightly darker version of morrocans nassbean posts a lot). Maybe i saw few lighter types in agadir, but thats it. Thats why im a bit suprised to see lighter morrocans Nassbean posts

It's really sad that you didn't have the opportunity to visit the north and rural areas (like the mountains) I feel like you don't trust me lol I also posted pics of me and I'm not an outlier so idk what I can do more

[Nomansman]

It's really sad that you didn't have the opportunity to visit the north and rural areas (like the mountains) I feel like you don't trust me lol I also posted pics of me and I'm not an outlier so idk what I can do more

I didnt say the people you posted were that much outliers. 1/2 of people in marrakech(maybe even more?) and 2/3 of agadir looked like the people you post pics of

[marco]

If you’re talking about iberomaurusian shifted North Africans then of course they are not anywhere close to Europeans they are natives. But if you are talking about certain North African samples on the coast they are genetically similar to the people of Southern Europe I’ll do a model with the Kabyle sample and post for you to see

[marco]

Yeah, i saw really many black admixed morroccans in both marakesh and agadir(agadir is right next to marakech). Many of the people could even be darker than me, while most had my skin colour. Only some where light and nobody almost never looked euro(but 1/2 of people in marakech and 2/3 of people in agadir kind of looked like slightly darker version of morrocans nassbean posts a lot). Maybe i saw few lighter types in agadir, but thats it. Thats why im a bit suprised to see lighter morrocans Nassbean posts
I don’t know exactly where you went in agadir but that is false. They are not light but they are not dark by any means and most in agadir are shifted towards iberomaurusian and score the highest percentages. They are natives, if you’re looking for light people closer to the look of Europeans you can find that in the coastal areas and even in some areas like fez. Bare in mind a lot of these people are out in the sun for long periods they don’t hide away from the sun like certain ethnic groups. If you leave anyone out in the sun for long periods of course they are gonna be dark when I go on holiday to Morocco Same thing happens to me

[marco]

Target: Kabyle_scaled
Distance: 4.0188% / 0.04018844
60.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
31.0 MAR_Iberomaurusian
8.2 TZA_Pemba_600BP
A decent distance adding bell beaker Italian added with iberomaurusian and ssa

[Nomansman]

I don’t know exactly where you went in agadir but that is false. They are not light but they are not dark by any means and most in agadir are shifted towards iberomaurusian and score the highest percentages. They are natives, if you’re looking for light people closer to the look of Europeans you can find that in the coastal areas and even in some areas like fez. Bare in mind a lot of these people are out in the sun for long periods they don’t hide away from the sun like certain ethnic groups. If you leave anyone out in the sun for long periods of course they are gonna be dark when I go on holiday to Morocco Same thing happens to me

Then i would say more like 3/4 would fit Nassbean's pic. But i sure do remember a good bunch were dark

[marco]

Then i would say more like 3/4 would fit Nassbean's pic. But i sure do remember a good bunch were dark
Most likely because of the sun I have being to agadir and have many friends from there they are not dark. Like I stated if you are out in the sun for long periods this will happen, it happens to me when I came back I was darker now that it’s winter I’m lighter and at my normal skin tone. Mix it with them being skinny as well you probably got the wrong idea, I’ll post a picture of myself but apricity is not letting me upload as my profile image

[Nomansman]

Most likely because of the sun I have being to agadir and have many friends from there they are not dark. Like I stated if you are out in the sun for long periods this will happen, it happens to me when I came back I was darker now that it’s winter I’m lighter and at my normal skin tone. Mix it with them being skinny as well you probably got the wrong idea, I’ll post a picture of myself but apricity is not letting me upload as my profile image

Well, i guess so. I assume then 95% of people in agadir could easily fit in nassbeans pics then(hardly saw SSA-shifted morroccans though)

[Avicenna]

Most likely because of the sun I have being to agadir and have many friends from there they are not dark. Like I stated if you are out in the sun for long periods this will happen, it happens to me when I came back I was darker now that it’s winter I’m lighter and at my normal skin tone. Mix it with them being skinny as well you probably got the wrong idea, I’ll post a picture of myself but apricity is not letting me upload as my profile image

I had a work colleague who was from agadir, his skin tone wss rosy pink with dark brown thick coarse hair.

[marco]

Target: Kabyle_scaled
Distance: 4.0188% / 0.04018844
60.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
31.0 MAR_Iberomaurusian
8.2 TZA_Pemba_600BP
A decent distance adding bell beaker Italian added with iberomaurusian and ssa


Well, i guess so. I assume then 95% of people in agadir could easily fit in nassbeans pics then(hardly saw SSA-shifted morroccans though)
You won’t let’s take Ryan Giggs for example he has more ssa then the average for North Africans and you would never be able to tell he was part ssa. Also Americans you may find on average they have 10 to 15 percent ssa and it has no effect on there phenotype

[marco]

Anyway this is pointless R1b came and wiped out The pre existing Europeans , ancient iberians were a lot more connected to North Africans then modern ones but I still believe coastal Moroccans are genetically similar from what I’ve seen

[marco]

Target: Moroccan_North:MCH8
Distance: 2.7008% / 0.02700795
51.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
34.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
7.0 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
6.6 TZA_Pemba_600BP
One under three percent

[Grace O'Malley]

Target: Moroccan_North:MCH8
Distance: 2.7008% / 0.02700795
51.8 Bell_Beaker_ITA
34.6 MAR_Iberomaurusian
7.0 Bell_Beaker_Iberia
6.6 TZA_Pemba_600BP
One under three percent

Did Bell Beakers go to North Africa or is this due to something later?

[Nomansman]

Anyway this is pointless R1b came and wiped out The pre existing Europeans , ancient iberians were a lot more connected to North Africans then modern ones but I still believe coastal Moroccans are genetically similar from what I’ve seen

Would "coastal" berbers be closer to euros than even the most euro north african samples i found?

[marco]

Did Bell Beakers go to North Africa or is this due to something later?
You will find people with R1b parental lineages in North Africa. Like I said though this doesn’t really bother or effect me I’m Arab and I’m just stating facts here iberians like to say they have nothing to do with North Africans genetically which is a lie. I think it’s because they get bullied by the rest of Europe who call them names. I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of coastal Moroccans and Southern Europeans clearly share a lot of dna. Anyway I’m just interested in genetics not politics

[marco]

Would "coastal" berbers be closer to euros than even the most euro north african samples i found?
You can find some that are closer those would be morisco descendants

[Nomansman]

You can find some that are closer those would be morsico descendants

Morisco descedants are morrocans with spanish blood in them, right?

[Nassbean]

Morisco descedants are morrocans with spanish blood in them, right?

the majority of moroccans have iberian ancestry (it's mainly from the neolithic) but moriscos have been expulsed from spain after 1609 and most of them settled in Morocco today their descendents have more iberian/italian than the average

[Nomansman]

the majority of moroccans have iberian ancestry (it's mainly from the neolithic) but moriscos have been expulsed from spain after 1609 and most of them settled in Morocco today their descendents have more iberian/italian than the average

Kind of explains why some morroccans really look euro

[Leto]

Kind of explains why some morroccans really look euro
Like this, I guess. Was she from South America or Cuba, people would say she is white.
http://img6.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/t/o/tolyb7qmr6e5oty6.jpg?kj8as6ye
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Maryam+Hassouni+34th+International+Emmy+Awards+UH6 SZSCWN3il.jpg

[Nomansman]

Like this, I guess. Was she from South America or Cuba, people would say she is white.
http://img6.bdbphotos.com/images/orig/t/o/tolyb7qmr6e5oty6.jpg?kj8as6ye
http://www3.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Maryam+Hassouni+34th+International+Emmy+Awards+UH6 SZSCWN3il.jpg

Yeah, she looks kind of white. Not too much though tbh.

If im gonna be honest, i seen more euro looking afghans in my life than euro looking berbers(and i dont see too much of either). Though i do believe berbers have more euro looking people

[Nassbean]

Yeah, she looks kind of white. Not too much though tbh.

If im gonna be honest, i seen more euro looking afghans in my life than euro looking berbers(and i dont see too much of either). Though i do believe berbers have more euro looking people

euro looking berbers are only present among isolated communities like riffians, kabyles for example :

for example this guy is riffian

https://i.imgur.com/GGYnwHm.jpg

and this one is kabyle

https://i.imgur.com/DrdE1Ss.jpg

[Grace O'Malley]

You will find people with R1b parental lineages in North Africa. Like I said though this doesn’t really bother or effect me I’m Arab and I’m just stating facts here iberians like to say they have nothing to do with North Africans genetically which is a lie. I think it’s because they get bullied by the rest of Europe who call them names. I don’t think it’s anything to be ashamed of coastal Moroccans and Southern Europeans clearly share a lot of dna. Anyway I’m just interested in genetics not politics

It would be interesting if they were R1b-D27 but I don't think you get that in North Africa as far as I'm aware. I don't think Iberians get bullied by the rest of Europe. The majority of people know nothing about genetics anyway. I'm also just interested in genetics and just go along with what the studies say. I've changed by views as data is updated. I don't think people should be ashamed of any dna they have. I don't know why people would be? Iberians though do have a lot more genetics shared with other Europeans than North Africans and that's just factual. I think all discussions on genetics are interesting. It's not like Europe was cut off and depending on where the population is some Europeans are closer to some non-Europeans than they are to other European populations. That's just commonsense looking at geography. I don't know why people would have a problem with that if they were aware. It's all very interesting and people should be open minded about the topic.

[Nordarya]

Yeah, she looks kind of white. Not too much though tbh.

If im gonna be honest, i seen more euro looking afghans in my life than euro looking berbers(and i dont see too much of either). Though i do believe berbers have more euro looking people

Afghan women are Aryan slaves of Mohammedans, but Berbers are Semitic slaves of Mohammedans. I wouldn't fuck Anne Franke, nor any Afroasiatic. Alexander got Roxana of Bactria and I'm sure she was worth it.

[Leto]

Yeah, she looks kind of white. Not too much though tbh.

If im gonna be honest, i seen more euro looking afghans in my life than euro looking berbers(and i dont see too much of either). Though i do believe berbers have more euro looking people
Pashtuns and Berbers are totally unrelated. Pashtuns have Steppe ancestry plus Indian/South Asian. Berbers have virtually no Steppe but they have African ancestry and also Mediterranean which Central Asians largely lack.

I like this famous Pashtun man
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/4d/b6/c64db68dbd726133a6794ddd7af0db7d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/6042/6248011618_ed287f6243_b.jpg

And that kind of look and also this man's represents a pre-Turko-Mongol look of South-Central Asia
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/pathan-portrait-saeed-akhtar.jpg

[Adamm]

Pashtuns and Berbers are totally unrelated. Pashtuns have Steppe ancestry plus Indian/South Asian. Berbers have virtually no Steppe but they have African ancestry and also Mediterranean which Central Asians largely lacks.

I like this famous Pashtun man
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/4d/b6/c64db68dbd726133a6794ddd7af0db7d.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/6042/6248011618_ed287f6243_b.jpg

And that kind of look and also this man's represents a pre-Turko-Mongol look of South-Central Asia
https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/1/pathan-portrait-saeed-akhtar.jpg

wow, those eyes are from another planet. These Afghanistan people have some rare eye patrons/colors like this woman:

https://i.imgur.com/dyi5N4k.png

[marco]

It would be interesting if they were R1b-D27 but I don't think you get that in North Africa as far as I'm aware. I don't think Iberians get bullied by the rest of Europe. The majority of people know nothing about genetics anyway. I'm also just interested in genetics and just go along with what the studies say. I've changed by views as data is updated. I don't think people should be ashamed of any dna they have. I don't know why people would be? Iberians though do have a lot more genetics shared with other Europeans than North Africans and that's just factual. I think all discussions on genetics are interesting. It's not like Europe was cut off and depending on where the population is some Europeans are closer to some non-Europeans than they are to other European populations. That's just commonsense looking at geography. I don't know why people would have a problem with that if they were aware. It's all very interesting and people should be open minded about the topic.
It depends on which part of Spain you are speaking about. Same goes for Italy everybody knows southern Italians are Levantine influenced. Spainsh people, Northern Africans (coastal) and Italians share many common components. I’m not saying they are one hundred percent similar don’t misconstrue what I’m saying, what I’m saying is that coastal Moroccans and iberians share a lot of dna and similarities.

[marco]

Morisco descedants are morrocans with spanish blood in them, right?
They usually have low iberomaurusian. Little to none existent levant ancestry with high european. I know someone like this but I Can’t be sure if his one or not but his results indicate it.

[marco]

euro looking berbers are only present among isolated communities like riffians, kabyles for example :

for example this guy is riffian

https://i.imgur.com/GGYnwHm.jpg

and this one is kabyle

https://i.imgur.com/DrdE1Ss.jpg
Not really I know one who is not interested isolated and one other that lived in tetouan her great grandfather was fully Portuguese but she won’t do G25. The dec

[Nordarya]

euro looking berbers are only present among isolated communities like riffians, kabyles for example :

for example this guy is riffian

https://i.imgur.com/GGYnwHm.jpg

and this one is kabyle

https://i.imgur.com/DrdE1Ss.jpg
Those look like typical douchebags. Look at those absent-minded smirks. WTF? At least they aren't 100% Wog, judging by their eyes. You know, though Greeks, Romans and Vandals/Alans all settled Mediterranean Africa. Why try to make the indigenous component of Africa seem lighter, when it's obvious these are introduced influences from elsewhere? That is to say, these phenotypes do not belong to any ethnic groups on the South coast of the Sea, but are diamonds in the rough. Testing ought to be done for verification.

[Samnium]

Those look like typical douchebags. Look at those absent-minded smirks. WTF? At least they aren't 100% Wog, judging by their eyes. You know, though Greeks, Romans and Vandals/Alans all settled Mediterranean Africa. Why try to make the indigenous component of Africa seem lighter, when it's obvious these are introduced influences from elsewhere? That is to say, these phenotypes do not belong to any ethnic groups on the South coast of the Sea, but are diamonds in the rough. Testing ought to be done for verification.

Lol people like that are 0,0001% of the population, phenotype outliers. They have almost all medium-brown to dark brown eyes (the later is very common and average).

Light Hazel/Blue/Green/Grey are very rare.

[Cristiano viejo]

It depends on which part of Spain you are speaking about. Same goes for Italy everybody knows southern Italians are Levantine influenced. Spainsh people, Northern Africans (coastal) and Italians share many common components. I’m not saying they are one hundred percent similar don’t misconstrue what I’m saying, what I’m saying is that coastal Moroccans and iberians share a lot of dna and similarities.

We dont share anything and no matter which part of Spain we are speaking since all Spaniards are genetically the same.
Spaniards and Moroccans are absolutely different people, phenotypically, genetically and culturally.

[Nomansman]

We dont share anything and no matter which part of Spain we are speaking since all Spaniards are genetically the same.
Spaniards and Moroccans are absolutely different people, phenotypically, genetically and culturally.

Well.....tbh, some of you guys from canaria can be quiet mixed....

[Cristiano viejo]

Well.....tbh, some of you guys from canaria can be quiet mixed....

Canarians are not ethnic Spaniards, of course they are mixed.

[Rocinante]

It depends on which part of Spain you are speaking about. Same goes for Italy everybody knows southern Italians are Levantine influenced. Spainsh people, Northern Africans (coastal) and Italians share many common components. I’m not saying they are one hundred percent similar don’t misconstrue what I’m saying, what I’m saying is that coastal Moroccans and iberians share a lot of dna and similarities.

Italians don't share DNA with north africans, they share with west asians. And spaniards, no matter which region, don't really share DNA with them, about 5% in average, very small amount.

[Rocinante]

Well.....tbh, some of you guys from canaria can be quiet mixed....

Canarias are spanish castillian mixed with acient guanches.

[Nordarya]

Lol people like that are 0,0001% of the population, phenotype outliers. They have almost all medium-brown to dark brown eyes (the later is very common and average).

Light Hazel/Blue/Green/Grey are very rare.

Notice how all the Northern Africans want to be Whiter than Southern Europeans, who they say are Black?

[Samnium]

Notice how all the Northern Africans want to be Whiter than Southern Europeans, who they say are Black?

Some said that they are 25% direct SSA here which isn't true at all, but I've seen as far only one member that wanted to pass his people as light as S.Euros (atleast in skin tone).

[Nordarya]

Some said that they are 25% direct SSA here which isn't true at all, but I've seen as far only one member that wanted to pass his people as light as S.Euros (atleast in skin tone).

There's a lot of trolling on here, by Afrocentrists saying that Europe belongs to them because of SSA admixture in Southern Europeans.

[marco]

We dont share anything and no matter which part of Spain we are speaking since all Spaniards are genetically the same.
Spaniards and Moroccans are absolutely different people, phenotypically, genetically and culturally.
I just proved otherwise don’t embarrass your self trying to act like a big man north Moroccans are clearly related to you. Don’t make me post those results of Spaniards I don’t have time for this childish games. You are genetically related to North Africans you share a lot of dna with north Moroccans in particular.

Also take into account Morisco descendants as well, anyway let’s leave it there you can’t fight genetics and the truth

[marco]

Notice how all the Northern Africans want to be Whiter than Southern Europeans, who they say are Black?
Which North Africans not me and the majority don’t. North Moroccans and Kabyles are actually white stop denying them
There right to identify as that they clearly share a lot of dna with south Europeans

[Nordarya]

Which North Africans not me and the majority don’t. North Moroccans and Kabyles are actually white stop denying them
There right to identify as that they clearly share a lot of dna with south Europeans

You just proved my point. Go figure.

[Leto]

Which North Africans not me and the majority don’t. North Moroccans and Kabyles are actually white stop denying them
There right to identify as that they clearly share a lot of dna with south Europeans
Morocco has a White Princess
https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13873197_1753096621596665_3056953737548626994_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeHPxxRKDL_ekLIPl1Sr3HFtdB7ZHdaYfOX_xvwre dbX5_5aZ5obcdnCORfa8WjdGncqcXuW-R1g6OjxyrWgS5JWsrmHpe0OHRn467z-D6_jJA&_nc_oc=AQld7-jIuDW-cWIQX-joixBFqsTxlVNnE9bvK1YlFRrIze02rENcbbzuWtViDRVaDUw&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&_nc_tp=12&oh=07bab7373a40c9ce959ba7e1077b8d2f&oe=5E9BC319

[marco]

You just proved my point. Go figure.
Proved what point I’m just fighting for the rights of others who want to identify as white they’re european components clearly outweigh there other components. I don’t see any reason for you to deny them

[marco]

Morocco has a White Princess
https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/13873197_1753096621596665_3056953737548626994_n.jp g?_nc_cat=108&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeHPxxRKDL_ekLIPl1Sr3HFtdB7ZHdaYfOX_xvwre dbX5_5aZ5obcdnCORfa8WjdGncqcXuW-R1g6OjxyrWgS5JWsrmHpe0OHRn467z-D6_jJA&_nc_oc=AQld7-jIuDW-cWIQX-joixBFqsTxlVNnE9bvK1YlFRrIze02rENcbbzuWtViDRVaDUw&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&_nc_tp=12&oh=07bab7373a40c9ce959ba7e1077b8d2f&oe=5E9BC319
Yes, what’s your thoughts on the whole subject it doesn’t really effect me because I’m an arab but I still want to fight for the rights of those being denied

[marco]

You just proved my point. Go figure.
All the complaining you are doing here there is a Moroccan dude out there who has a European woman with her legs behind her ears!

All that aside I posted results and evidence I can pull up spainsh samples for comparison if you it makes you feel better

[marco]

They may have the genes but you got the latin name going for you. Fight for your rights brother!
Not me brother north Moroccans have the genetics I posted the results. I’m fighting for their rights me myself I’m an arab

[Leto]

Yes, what’s your thoughts on the whole subject it doesn’t really effect me because I’m an arab but I still want to fight for the rights of those being denied
My thoughts? I don't think the North Africans are white collectively speaking. They are not European, nor do they belong to Western civilization or anything remotely close to it. Like you said, you are an Arab, so are most North Africans (a blend of Arabs and Berbers with a strongly Muslim culture). Even if there are a few white-passing individuals from Pakistan all the way to Morocco (the greater "MENA" region), none of the countries and peoples are considered white in any meaningful way, as simple as that. And I doubt they consider themselves white either.

[marco]

My thoughts? I don't think the North Africans are white collectively speaking. They are not European, nor do they belong to Western civilization or anything remotely close to it. Like you said, you are an Arab, so are most North Africans (a blend of Arabs and Berbers with a strongly Muslim culture). Even if there are a few white-passing individuals from Pakistan all the way to Morocco, none of the countries and peoples are considered white in any meaningful way, as simple as that. And I doubt they consider themselves white either.
I’m not talking about myself I already posted results to a few pages back. North Moroccans are not Arabs they score highly on european components and can be modelled with no levant input. So that’s false they are close to Southern Europeans specifically spainsh people. If you’re talking about other groups in Morocco then yes. Before making a claim back it up I did and posted results.

You are using misinformation arabs are a Minority in Morocco you clearly don’t know how genetics work if they want to identity as white they can it’s there right. Even if you don’t accept those North Moroccans that clearly share dna with you at least the women will

[Nomansman]

Which North Africans not me and the majority don’t. North Moroccans and Kabyles are actually white stop denying them
There right to identify as that they clearly share a lot of dna with south Europeans

I wouldnt say non euro-admixed kabyles are white. I mean like, youre not even close to most north african admixed canaria sample in g25 spreadsheet(and thats the most euro shifted kabyle from libya). Youre definetly closer to euros than to your southern neighbors, but you being close to euros? I wouldnt say that

Many of you do look euro though

[marco]

I wouldnt say non euro-admixed kabyles are white. I mean like, youre not even close to most north african admixed canaria sample in g25 spreadsheet(and thats the most euro shifted kabyle from libya). Youre definetly closer to euros than to your southern neighbors, but you being close to euros? I wouldnt say that

Many of you do look euro though
They form there own cluster and share a lot of dna genetically you are to focused on PCA plots

[Leto]

I’m not talking about myself I already posted results to a few pages back. North Moroccans are not Arabs they score highly on european components and can be modelled with no levant input. So that’s false they are close to Southern Europeans specifically spainsh people. If you’re talking about other groups in Morocco then yes. Before making a claim back it up I did and posted results.

You are using misinformation arabs are a Minority in Morocco you clearly don’t know how genetics work if they want to identity as white they can it’s there right. Even if you don’t accept those North Moroccans that clearly share dna with you at least the women will
Can I have a look at your K13 & K15 results again? I vaguely remember you were a rather normal Moroccan, weren't you?

[Nomansman]

They form there own cluster and share a lot of dna genetically you are to focused on PCA plots

They do share a lot of euro admix along with south euros, but pca plots(not sure how much they should be trusted, as many of them can give different conclusions. To just see the distance between two people, vahado is a good example. Davidski told me that) and g25 nmonte results shouldnt be denied.
You guys probably also have a lot of foreign admix(even if you have 0% SSA), otherwise you wouldnt be that far from south euros.


Morroccans form their cluster, but i assume their cluster should be even further from south italians slightly more than i would be to turks, if i was my own cluster

[marco]

They do share a lot of euro admix along with south euros, but pca plots(not sure how much they should be trusted, as many of them can give different conclusions. To just see the distance between two people, vahado is a good example. Davidski told me that) and g25 nmonte results shouldnt be denied.
You guys probably also have a lot of foreign admix(even if you have 0% SSA), otherwise you wouldnt be that far from south euros.


Morroccans form their cluster, but i assume their cluster should be even further from south italians slightly more than i would be to turks, if i was my own cluster
PCA plots can’t always be trusted and I’ve seen a sample who’s half european half Moroccan and still they don’t cluster exactly with Europeans but inbetween. That said more then half of there components are european with iberomaurusian and slight ssa, this is what keeps the distance on a PCA plot.

[Nomansman]

PCA plots can’t always be trusted and I’ve seen a sample who’s half european half Moroccan and still they don’t cluster exactly with Europeans but inbetween. That said more then half of there components are european with iberomaurusian and slight ssa, this is what keeps the distance on a PCA plot.

What about vahado distances? That should be ignored too?

[Nordarya]

Proved what point I’m just fighting for the rights of others who want to identify as white they’re european components clearly outweigh there other components. I don’t see any reason for you to deny them I never denied Eurasian admixes in Africa, which are no more or less significant than African admixes in Eurasia. Thank or blame the Mediterranean Sea for this.


All the complaining you are doing here there is a Moroccan dude out there who has a European woman with her legs behind her ears!

All that aside I posted results and evidence I can pull up spainsh samples for comparison if you it makes you feel betterI count Eurasian R1b in Africa as my brethren, not Afroasiatic E, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have the same Eurasian maternal lineage.

Please don't use the presence of E in Europe for Eurabia and I won't make excuses for Leopold in the Congo. Keep your Koran to yourself; I'm not going to send you any Bibles.


Yes, what’s your thoughts on the whole subject it doesn’t really effect me because I’m an arab but I still want to fight for the rights of those being deniedIf your haplogroup is E, you're the Black half of Blasian DE, so just get over it. If you're J, I count you as a second or third cousin.


My thoughts? I don't think the North Africans are white collectively speaking. They are not European, nor do they belong to Western civilization or anything remotely close to it. Like you said, you are an Arab, so are most North Africans (a blend of Arabs and Berbers with a strongly Muslim culture). Even if there are a few white-passing individuals from Pakistan all the way to Morocco (the greater "MENA" region), none of the countries and peoples are considered white in any meaningful way, as simple as that. And I doubt they consider themselves white either. This is the point where E haplogroup men have to search for a renewed meaningful brotherhood with D haplogroup men in Asia, so they can be DE Bros and leave us the fuck alone. Uterine fraternity just ain't the same.

[marco]

What about vahado distances? That should be ignored too?
In my opinion yes, there’s a new tool out anyway that I think is much better then nmonte. Things are still developing and nothing is concrete or set in stone

[marco]

I never denied Eurasian admixes in Africa, which are no more or less significant than African admixes in Eurasia. Thank or blame the Mediterranean Sea for this.

I count Eurasian R1b in Africa as my brethren, not Afroasiatic E, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have the same Eurasian maternal lineage.

Please don't use the presence of E in Europe for Eurabia and I won't make excuses for Leopold in the Congo. Keep your Koran to yourself; I'm not going to send you any Bibles.

If your haplogroup is E, you're the Black half of Blasian DE, so just get over it. If you're J, I count you as a second or third cousin.

This is the point where E haplogroup men have to search for a renewed meaningful brotherhood with D haplogroup men in Asia, so they can be DE Bros and leave us the fuck alone. Uterine fraternity just ain't the same.

Listen like I stated it’s not like a little 10 To 15 percent we are speaking about it’s more then half there components which are european. At least you accept R1b as your brethren that’s a start and we are getting somewhere I don’t know what J has to do with the conversation though

Besides there is plenty of E in Europe including North African parental lineages in Spain. I’m
Not saying the whole or North Africa is related to you just coastal ones there is Tunisians who score 70 percent european on there autosomal

[Nomansman]

In my opinion yes, there’s a new tool out anyway that I think is much better then nmonte. Things are still developing and nothing is concrete or set in stone

Can i see that new thing? Any links?

[marco]

I never denied Eurasian admixes in Africa, which are no more or less significant than African admixes in Eurasia. Thank or blame the Mediterranean Sea for this.

I count Eurasian R1b in Africa as my brethren, not Afroasiatic E, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't have the same Eurasian maternal lineage.

Please don't use the presence of E in Europe for Eurabia and I won't make excuses for Leopold in the Congo. Keep your Koran to yourself; I'm not going to send you any Bibles.

If your haplogroup is E, you're the Black half of Blasian DE, so just get over it. If you're J, I count you as a second or third cousin.

This is the point where E haplogroup men have to search for a renewed meaningful brotherhood with D haplogroup men in Asia, so they can be DE Bros and leave us the fuck alone. Uterine fraternity just ain't the same.

This is my haplogroup:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/
Arabic origin this isn’t about me though there is plenty who score R1b in those regions like north Morocco and Kabyle

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

What about vahado distances? That should be ignored too?

They should be ignored because when you run the entire spreadsheet of modern populations distances North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of distance with Iberians...:rolleyes:

Iberians are even closer to people who are as far away such as Chechens or Komis than they are to Maghrebians. Maghrebians being 50% to 70% European is also absolutely false, be it either ancient or modern ancestry, otherwise they would be closer to other Europeans either on PCAs or in Vahaduo models (and they are not).

[Adamm]

Listen like I stated it’s not like a little 10 To 15 percent we are speaking about it’s more then half there components which are european. At least you accept R1b as your brethren that’s a start and we are getting somewhere I don’t know what J has to do with the conversation though

Besides there is plenty of E in Europe including North African parental lineages in Spain. I’m
Not saying the whole or North Africa is related to you just coastal ones there is Tunisians who score 70 percent european on there autosomal

70% European autosomal for coastal Tunisians? Where?

[Nomansman]

They should be ignored because when you run the entire spreadsheet of modern populations distances North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of distance with Iberians...:rolleyes:

Iberians are even closer to people who are as far away such as Chechens or Komis than they are to Maghrebians. Maghrebians being 50% to 70% European is also absolutely false, be it either ancient or modern ancestry, otherwise they would be closer to other Europeans either on PCAs or in Vahaduo models (and they are not).

Yeah, all kind of west asians are more closer to all euros(except north african admixed ones....maybe) than most euro kabyles on nmonte and probably gedmatch and other dna tools as well i assume. Maybe even iranians(they get albanians at distance of 14, while most euro kabyles get them at 18) are closer to euros than berbers are.

[marco]

They should be ignored because when you run the entire spreadsheet of modern populations distances North Africans do not even show up in the first 200 samples in terms of distance with Iberians...:rolleyes:

Iberians are even closer to people who are as far away such as Chechens or Komis than they are to Maghrebians. Maghrebians being 50% to 70% European is also absolutely false, be it either ancient or modern ancestry, otherwise they would be closer to other Europeans either on PCAs or in Vahaduo models (and they are not).

Not true at all they would not plot closer but be heading in that direction which they are. The other components like iberomaurusian and ssa is putting them at a distance doesn’t mean they are not half or more then half european. Not all maghrebians we are talking about specific ones in certain areas learn to read before commenting.

I already posted results of a North Moroccan sample further more Ive seen how a half european and half North African sample plots and they still plot inbetween

[Avicenna]

They do share a lot of euro admix along with south euros, but pca plots(not sure how much they should be trusted, as many of them can give different conclusions. To just see the distance between two people, vahado is a good example. Davidski told me that) and g25 nmonte results shouldnt be denied.
You guys probably also have a lot of foreign admix(even if you have 0% SSA), otherwise you wouldnt be that far from south euros.


Morroccans form their cluster, but i assume their cluster should be even further from south italians slightly more than i would be to turks, if i was my own cluster

What are vahado distances?

[marco]

70% European autosomal for coastal Tunisians? Where?
I’ll find it for you he posted it a while back it was a 23 and me result, to be fair he looked it

[Nomansman]

What are vahado distances?

G25 distances. Vahado is just another name for the g25 program i got my g25 results from

[marco]

Yeah, all kind of west asians are more closer to all euros(except north african admixed ones....maybe) than most euro kabyles on nmonte and probably gedmatch and other dna tools as well i assume. Maybe even iranians(they get albanians at distance of 14, while most euro kabyles get them at 18) are closer to euros than berbers are.
Where’s your sources for that? Are you also talking percentage wise? Do west Asians score bell beaker?

[Nordarya]

This is my haplogroup:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-L210/
Arabic origin this isn’t about me though there is plenty who score R1b in those regions like north Morocco and Kabyle

Why did you give me a thumbs down? If you're J, you're Anatolian, i.e. Eurasian, which does inherently imply White, same as I, from the common IJ. Those R1b are probably of Latin origin.

[Nomansman]

Where’s your sources for that? Are you also talking percentage wise? Do west Asians score bell beaker?

No, im just talking about distances.

Im gonna show you. Just wait

[Leto]

Can I have a look at your K13 & K15 results again? I vaguely remember you were a rather normal Moroccan, weren't you?
Hey marco, I fucking ferreted out your K13 xD

Population
North_Atlantic 6.22 Pct
Baltic -
West_Med 18.59 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 29.55 Pct
Red_Sea 19.59 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.23 Pct
Siberian 0.25 Pct
Amerindian 0.77 Pct
Oceanian 0.70 Pct
Northeast_African 11.36 Pct
Sub-Saharan 12.74 Pct

Distance to: marco
7.47900394 Tunisian
7.69782437 Algerian
8.66292676 Mozabite_Berber
9.57776070 Moroccan
16.22575114 Egyptian
22.23320265 Bedouin
22.28597990 Libyan_Jewish
23.68509025 Tunisian_Jewish
24.06186817 Algerian_Jewish
26.15874806 Sephardic_Jewish
26.26905975 Jordanian
26.62597979 Italian_Jewish
26.93806229 Palestinian
27.55027042 Ashkenazi
28.45607317 Syrian
28.49209715 East_Sicilian
29.52747026 South_Italian
29.55998139 West_Sicilian
29.95055258 Samaritan
30.03536249 Saudi

Target: marco
Distance: 3.0193% / 3.01928490 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Tunisian
24.6 Mozabite_Berber
13.0 Saudi
6.8 Moroccan
5.8 Ethiopian_Amhara
3.2 Mandenka

Target: marco
Distance: 1.6159% / 1.61586478
67.4 Moroccan
21.2 Yemenite_Jewish
6.8 Yoruban
4.0 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Papuan

Couldn't find K15 though. Maybe you would still share them?

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Not true at all they would not plot closer but be heading in that direction which they are. The other components like iberomaurusian and ssa is putting them at a distance doesn’t mean they are not half or more then half european. Not all maghrebians we are talking about specific ones in certain areas learn to read before commenting.

I already posted results of a North Moroccan sample further more Ive seen how a half european and half North African sample plots and they still plot inbetween

"They are heading in that direction", lol. What is that suppose to mean? Nothing, you are just projecting wishful thoughts. With that silly rhetoric I can also say that all the other 200 samples that are closer to Iberians are heading towards "our direction" first and foremost.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. There are Latin American members here who are 70%-80% European being the rest SSA\Ameridian and they plot closer than any Moroccan to other European samples. And that's because they have actual European ancestry, unlike the vast majority of Maghrebians.

[marco]

Hey marco, I fucking ferreted out your K13 xD

Population
North_Atlantic 6.22 Pct
Baltic -
West_Med 18.59 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 29.55 Pct
Red_Sea 19.59 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.23 Pct
Siberian 0.25 Pct
Amerindian 0.77 Pct
Oceanian 0.70 Pct
Northeast_African 11.36 Pct
Sub-Saharan 12.74 Pct

Distance to: marco
7.47900394 Tunisian
7.69782437 Algerian
8.66292676 Mozabite_Berber
9.57776070 Moroccan
16.22575114 Egyptian
22.23320265 Bedouin
22.28597990 Libyan_Jewish
23.68509025 Tunisian_Jewish
24.06186817 Algerian_Jewish
26.15874806 Sephardic_Jewish
26.26905975 Jordanian
26.62597979 Italian_Jewish
26.93806229 Palestinian
27.55027042 Ashkenazi
28.45607317 Syrian
28.49209715 East_Sicilian
29.52747026 South_Italian
29.55998139 West_Sicilian
29.95055258 Samaritan
30.03536249 Saudi

Target: marco
Distance: 3.0193% / 3.01928490 | ADC: 0.25x
46.6 Tunisian
24.6 Mozabite_Berber
13.0 Saudi
6.8 Moroccan
5.8 Ethiopian_Amhara
3.2 Mandenka

Target: marco
Distance: 1.6159% / 1.61586478
67.4 Moroccan
21.2 Yemenite_Jewish
6.8 Yoruban
4.0 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.4 Karitiana
0.2 Papuan

Couldn't find K15 though. Maybe you would still share them?
Yes I’m arab I didn’t claim to be anything else was you missing something. You can find them I post all my results should be somewhere on the thread I don’t use gedmatch anymore

[Nomansman]

West asian distances to south west euros:


Distance to: Armenian
0.07908621 Italian_Calabria
0.08172247 Italian_Campania
0.08401403 Italian_Basilicata
0.08614178 Italian_Apulia
0.08676003 Sicilian_East
0.09033400 Italian_Abruzzo
0.09076023 Italian_Molise
0.10066254 Italian_Lazio
0.10232162 Italian_Marche
0.10306068 Italian_Umbria
0.11209224 Albanian
0.11271041 Italian_Tuscany
0.12149191 Italian_Piedmont
0.12813162 Italian_Liguria
0.13185164 Italian_Lombardy
0.13521769 Italian_Veneto
0.13557479 Italian_Bergamo
0.14039698 Italian_Northeast
0.14072155 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14549883 Spanish_Canarias
0.14666745 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.14804763 Spanish_Eivissa
0.14825458 Spanish_Menorca
0.14864416 Spanish_Extremadura
0.14949253 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15059196 Spanish_Baleares
0.15132855 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15171006 Spanish_Murcia
0.15244965 Spanish_Alacant
0.15399374 Spanish_Galicia
0.15419195 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15422238 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15527639 Spanish_Penedes
0.15548294 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15579297 Spanish_Girona
0.15608469 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15624049 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15694618 Spanish_Valencia
0.15806959 Spanish_Lleida
0.15961248 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.16016128 Spanish_Castello
0.16032175 Spanish_Aragon
0.16042881 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16078507 Spanish_Barcelones
0.16092920 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16345000 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16421731 Spanish_Navarra
0.16562984 Spanish_Asturias
0.16668841 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17086573 Spanish_Soria
0.18029968 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Armenian_Hemsheni
0.09232754 Italian_Calabria
0.09513073 Italian_Campania
0.09632408 Italian_Basilicata
0.09845222 Italian_Apulia
0.10026293 Sicilian_East
0.10177599 Italian_Molise
0.10228740 Italian_Abruzzo
0.11234906 Italian_Lazio
0.11318073 Italian_Umbria
0.11325724 Italian_Marche
0.12123702 Albanian
0.12259690 Italian_Tuscany
0.13096593 Italian_Piedmont
0.13747821 Italian_Liguria
0.14110596 Italian_Lombardy
0.14408349 Italian_Veneto
0.14466017 Italian_Bergamo
0.14877568 Italian_Northeast
0.14947600 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.15449974 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.15740013 Spanish_Canarias
0.15754334 Spanish_Menorca
0.15787609 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15845787 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15902808 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15987524 Spanish_Baleares
0.16153585 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16166582 Spanish_Murcia
0.16221445 Spanish_Alacant
0.16290402 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.16380485 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.16390782 Spanish_Penedes
0.16407782 Spanish_Galicia
0.16456997 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.16469113 Spanish_Girona
0.16529175 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.16631846 Spanish_Valencia
0.16642098 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.16679164 Spanish_Lleida
0.16849360 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.16904115 Spanish_Castello
0.16930195 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16936883 Spanish_Aragon
0.16989088 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16995125 Spanish_Barcelones
0.17236965 Spanish_Cantabria
0.17375665 Spanish_Navarra
0.17524822 Spanish_Asturias
0.17541014 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17861071 Spanish_Soria
0.18913572 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[marco]

"They are heading in that direction", lol. What is that suppose to mean? Nothing, you are just projecting wishful thoughts. With that silly rhetoric I can also say that all the other 200 samples that are closer to Iberians are heading towards "our direction" first and foremost.

You clearly don't know what you are talking about. There are Latin American members here who are 70%-80% European being the rest SSA\Ameridian and they plot closer than any Moroccan to other European samples. And that's because they have actual European ancestry, unlike the vast majority of Maghrebians.

There’s a huge difference those North Africans have iberomaurusian mixed with ssa making up 40 percent of there dna hence why they don’t plot closer

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Adygei
0.11024053 Italian_Basilicata
0.11061698 Italian_Molise
0.11104038 Italian_Calabria
0.11189871 Italian_Apulia
0.11232260 Italian_Campania
0.11244220 Italian_Abruzzo
0.11454080 Sicilian_East
0.11705445 Italian_Marche
0.11711438 Italian_Umbria
0.11757177 Albanian
0.12178425 Italian_Lazio
0.12242902 Italian_Tuscany
0.12638460 Italian_Piedmont
0.12886575 Italian_Liguria
0.13430099 Italian_Northeast
0.13508258 Italian_Veneto
0.13561003 Italian_Lombardy
0.13603131 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13832833 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.13900002 Italian_Bergamo
0.14632977 Spanish_Mallorca
0.14752297 Spanish_Eivissa
0.14786473 Spanish_Menorca
0.14931102 Spanish_Baleares
0.14989486 Spanish_Penedes
0.15006338 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15107411 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15124914 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15146601 Spanish_Canarias
0.15158622 Spanish_Alacant
0.15173396 Spanish_Girona
0.15174852 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15190349 Spanish_Murcia
0.15242683 Spanish_Galicia
0.15367016 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15374037 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15396396 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15398069 Spanish_Lleida
0.15455572 Spanish_Valencia
0.15604204 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.15659839 Spanish_Cataluna
0.15670093 Spanish_Barcelones
0.15709520 Spanish_Pirineu
0.15746924 Spanish_Aragon
0.15754230 Spanish_Castello
0.16016705 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16168523 Spanish_Asturias
0.16305546 Spanish_Navarra
0.16413172 Spanish_Soria
0.16861355 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17548981 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Chechen
0.11807675 Italian_Molise
0.11880208 Italian_Basilicata
0.11988403 Italian_Abruzzo
0.12000248 Italian_Calabria
0.12058941 Italian_Apulia
0.12090672 Italian_Campania
0.12360993 Sicilian_East
0.12378008 Italian_Umbria
0.12383459 Italian_Marche
0.12416890 Albanian
0.12834925 Italian_Tuscany
0.12880528 Italian_Lazio
0.13148023 Italian_Piedmont
0.13487137 Italian_Liguria
0.13727518 Italian_Northeast
0.13773768 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13924944 Italian_Veneto
0.14113493 Italian_Lombardy
0.14279253 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14379624 Italian_Bergamo
0.15005746 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15160591 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15294710 Spanish_Penedes
0.15296648 Spanish_Baleares
0.15314772 Spanish_Menorca
0.15418049 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15478485 Spanish_Girona
0.15494511 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15526187 Spanish_Alacant
0.15598097 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15628120 Spanish_Galicia
0.15649176 Spanish_Canarias
0.15656431 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15690045 Spanish_Murcia
0.15722084 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15773508 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15777451 Spanish_Lleida
0.15842821 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15896617 Spanish_Valencia
0.15938610 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.16013762 Spanish_Barcelones
0.16053346 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16150975 Spanish_Castello
0.16156126 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16161611 Spanish_Aragon
0.16367697 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16631257 Spanish_Navarra
0.16641059 Spanish_Asturias
0.16668319 Spanish_Soria
0.17456269 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17909174 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Balkar
0.11889142 Italian_Molise
0.11912418 Italian_Basilicata
0.11999724 Italian_Calabria
0.12076025 Italian_Apulia
0.12086876 Italian_Abruzzo
0.12137643 Italian_Campania
0.12327875 Sicilian_East
0.12340710 Albanian
0.12477169 Italian_Marche
0.12492625 Italian_Umbria
0.12963203 Italian_Tuscany
0.12996537 Italian_Lazio
0.13249910 Italian_Piedmont
0.13438539 Italian_Liguria
0.13814456 Italian_Northeast
0.13978259 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.14038209 Italian_Veneto
0.14144095 Italian_Lombardy
0.14312643 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14464021 Italian_Bergamo
0.15084220 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15189418 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15265856 Spanish_Menorca
0.15336515 Spanish_Baleares
0.15395516 Spanish_Penedes
0.15473431 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15506116 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15536188 Spanish_Canarias
0.15563210 Spanish_Girona
0.15565687 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15570369 Spanish_Alacant
0.15579272 Spanish_Murcia
0.15605225 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15631347 Spanish_Galicia
0.15750604 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15820722 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15828800 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15830421 Spanish_Lleida
0.15853203 Spanish_Valencia
0.16034635 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.16040821 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16050961 Spanish_Barcelones
0.16145310 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16151816 Spanish_Castello
0.16193609 Spanish_Aragon
0.16407678 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16556996 Spanish_Asturias
0.16661103 Spanish_Navarra
0.16679815 Spanish_Soria
0.17378543 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17934066 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Azeri_Turkey
0.09367203 Italian_Calabria
0.09635180 Italian_Campania
0.09697221 Italian_Basilicata
0.09817075 Sicilian_East
0.09890112 Italian_Apulia
0.10084375 Italian_Molise
0.10129855 Italian_Abruzzo
0.10995027 Italian_Marche
0.11125930 Italian_Umbria
0.11194571 Italian_Lazio
0.11508551 Albanian
0.11874882 Italian_Tuscany
0.12463547 Italian_Piedmont
0.12763591 Italian_Liguria
0.13354870 Italian_Lombardy
0.13656864 Italian_Veneto
0.13823114 Italian_Bergamo
0.13849675 Italian_Northeast
0.14052016 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14308218 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.14385011 Spanish_Canarias
0.14704352 Spanish_Eivissa
0.14793971 Spanish_Menorca
0.14803327 Spanish_Extremadura
0.14843393 Spanish_Mallorca
0.14967128 Spanish_Andalucia
0.14981422 Spanish_Baleares
0.14997627 Spanish_Murcia
0.15067058 Spanish_Alacant
0.15158222 Spanish_Galicia
0.15246905 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15299787 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15305923 Spanish_Penedes
0.15311612 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15317826 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15382905 Spanish_Girona
0.15480882 Spanish_Valencia
0.15558450 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15642474 Spanish_Lleida
0.15830604 Spanish_Barcelones
0.15867454 Spanish_Aragon
0.15869497 Spanish_Cataluna
0.15870562 Spanish_Pirineu
0.15888800 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.15892718 Spanish_Castello
0.16156527 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16157039 Spanish_Asturias
0.16214136 Spanish_Navarra
0.16877015 Spanish_Soria
0.17010419 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17744423 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[Adamm]

Yes I’m arab I didn’t claim to be anything else was you missing something. You can find them I post all my results should be somewhere on the thread I don’t use gedmatch anymore

You claim to be Arab but you have more Berber admixture than Riffians, lol.

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.10944926 Italian_Calabria
0.11151820 Italian_Campania
0.11226939 Italian_Basilicata
0.11491831 Italian_Apulia
0.11514409 Sicilian_East
0.11566132 Italian_Abruzzo
0.11580998 Italian_Molise
0.12442781 Italian_Umbria
0.12477485 Italian_Marche
0.12548327 Italian_Lazio
0.12957061 Albanian
0.13188320 Italian_Tuscany
0.13791175 Italian_Piedmont
0.14316951 Italian_Liguria
0.14833331 Italian_Veneto
0.14877760 Italian_Lombardy
0.14977344 Italian_Northeast
0.15163490 Italian_Bergamo
0.15318694 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.15344423 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.15505575 Spanish_Canarias
0.15816856 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15909114 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15942272 Spanish_Mallorca
0.16097568 Spanish_Menorca
0.16139305 Spanish_Baleares
0.16142124 Spanish_Alacant
0.16198398 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16261204 Spanish_Murcia
0.16268115 Spanish_Galicia
0.16342332 Spanish_Penedes
0.16434962 Spanish_Girona
0.16436885 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.16479324 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.16563944 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.16596105 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.16648302 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.16696802 Spanish_Valencia
0.16804905 Spanish_Lleida
0.16947222 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.16981092 Spanish_Barcelones
0.16999226 Spanish_Cataluna
0.17006659 Spanish_Castello
0.17012871 Spanish_Pirineu
0.17090522 Spanish_Aragon
0.17281988 Spanish_Cantabria
0.17393534 Spanish_Navarra
0.17589985 Spanish_Asturias
0.17720357 Spanish_Soria
0.18122293 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18945193 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: North_Ossetian
0.12525581 Italian_Calabria
0.12539884 Italian_Basilicata
0.12588000 Italian_Molise
0.12708010 Italian_Campania
0.12714215 Italian_Apulia
0.12763356 Italian_Abruzzo
0.12885372 Sicilian_East
0.13243203 Italian_Marche
0.13259053 Italian_Umbria
0.13359618 Albanian
0.13672425 Italian_Lazio
0.13802195 Italian_Tuscany
0.14134951 Italian_Piedmont
0.14277678 Italian_Liguria
0.14887908 Italian_Northeast
0.15007014 Italian_Veneto
0.15012386 Italian_Lombardy
0.15021558 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.15292588 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.15363479 Italian_Bergamo
0.16006578 Spanish_Mallorca
0.16063679 Spanish_Eivissa
0.16132100 Spanish_Menorca
0.16189223 Spanish_Canarias
0.16262126 Spanish_Baleares
0.16297631 Spanish_Extremadura
0.16321600 Spanish_Penedes
0.16418408 Spanish_Andalucia
0.16434838 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.16435256 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.16443044 Spanish_Alacant
0.16462645 Spanish_Galicia
0.16468750 Spanish_Murcia
0.16504437 Spanish_Girona
0.16541289 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.16673844 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.16724092 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.16734258 Spanish_Valencia
0.16737388 Spanish_Lleida
0.16949416 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16956191 Spanish_Barcelones
0.16965986 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.17026897 Spanish_Pirineu
0.17033228 Spanish_Aragon
0.17070403 Spanish_Castello
0.17306602 Spanish_Cantabria
0.17354946 Spanish_Asturias
0.17528408 Spanish_Navarra
0.17667226 Spanish_Soria
0.18280927 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.18794770 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Kumyk
0.10693029 Italian_Basilicata
0.10695726 Italian_Molise
0.10832874 Italian_Calabria
0.10907173 Italian_Abruzzo
0.10914360 Italian_Apulia
0.10920932 Italian_Campania
0.11164450 Sicilian_East
0.11265140 Albanian
0.11363626 Italian_Marche
0.11380087 Italian_Umbria
0.11790899 Italian_Lazio
0.11889643 Italian_Tuscany
0.12215396 Italian_Piedmont
0.12497454 Italian_Liguria
0.12861367 Italian_Northeast
0.13042972 Italian_Veneto
0.13095732 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13171636 Italian_Lombardy
0.13366295 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.13478332 Italian_Bergamo
0.14131701 Spanish_Mallorca
0.14219662 Spanish_Eivissa
0.14374638 Spanish_Baleares
0.14376431 Spanish_Menorca
0.14495203 Spanish_Penedes
0.14498381 Spanish_Extremadura
0.14531718 Spanish_Canarias
0.14593012 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.14607613 Spanish_Alacant
0.14628101 Spanish_Girona
0.14660044 Spanish_Murcia
0.14669369 Spanish_Andalucia
0.14685020 Spanish_Galicia
0.14699062 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.14827254 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.14885163 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.14908109 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.14928060 Spanish_Lleida
0.14963049 Spanish_Valencia
0.15120362 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.15152285 Spanish_Barcelones
0.15166702 Spanish_Cataluna
0.15238960 Spanish_Pirineu
0.15240655 Spanish_Castello
0.15312922 Spanish_Aragon
0.15496459 Spanish_Cantabria
0.15709774 Spanish_Asturias
0.15762034 Spanish_Navarra
0.15847485 Spanish_Soria
0.16467811 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17113255 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Iranian_Mazandarani
0.13297249 Italian_Calabria
0.13547680 Italian_Campania
0.13614228 Italian_Basilicata
0.13860878 Italian_Apulia
0.13874455 Sicilian_East
0.13960917 Italian_Molise
0.13993133 Italian_Abruzzo
0.14894263 Italian_Umbria
0.14901688 Italian_Marche
0.14993035 Italian_Lazio
0.15248056 Albanian
0.15626348 Italian_Tuscany
0.16206897 Italian_Piedmont
0.16662059 Italian_Liguria
0.17242050 Italian_Veneto
0.17248243 Italian_Lombardy
0.17347237 Italian_Northeast
0.17552656 Italian_Bergamo
0.17684435 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.17726007 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.18059177 Spanish_Canarias
0.18328356 Spanish_Extremadura
0.18374538 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18386845 Spanish_Mallorca
0.18540986 Spanish_Menorca
0.18606578 Spanish_Baleares
0.18616494 Spanish_Alacant
0.18674996 Spanish_Andalucia
0.18758547 Spanish_Murcia
0.18771422 Spanish_Galicia
0.18789086 Spanish_Penedes
0.18889469 Spanish_Girona
0.18919210 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.18962694 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.19014296 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19031469 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.19111417 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19157764 Spanish_Valencia
0.19247858 Spanish_Lleida
0.19382165 Spanish_Barcelones
0.19407944 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.19442500 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19464140 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19471666 Spanish_Castello
0.19538595 Spanish_Aragon
0.19716888 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19864729 Spanish_Navarra
0.19986121 Spanish_Asturias
0.20196420 Spanish_Soria
0.20614755 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.21296953 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[marco]

You claim to be Arab but you have more Berber admixture than Riffians, lol.

Looool

[Nomansman]

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Distance to: Turkish_Northwest
0.09609517 Italian_Basilicata
0.09644936 Italian_Calabria
0.09749512 Italian_Molise
0.09795247 Italian_Campania
0.09871107 Italian_Apulia
0.09942060 Italian_Abruzzo
0.09953596 Sicilian_East
0.10238526 Albanian
0.10332801 Italian_Umbria
0.10394611 Italian_Marche
0.10771659 Italian_Lazio
0.10893717 Italian_Tuscany
0.11245761 Italian_Piedmont
0.11555546 Italian_Liguria
0.12044159 Italian_Northeast
0.12106443 Italian_Lombardy
0.12133177 Italian_Veneto
0.12365468 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.12450149 Italian_Bergamo
0.12587295 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.12916364 Spanish_Canarias
0.13002486 Spanish_Eivissa
0.13065452 Spanish_Mallorca
0.13134616 Spanish_Murcia
0.13145318 Spanish_Baleares
0.13146041 Spanish_Menorca
0.13237897 Spanish_Extremadura
0.13306783 Spanish_Andalucia
0.13339330 Spanish_Alacant
0.13401211 Spanish_Galicia
0.13410080 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.13447446 Spanish_Penedes
0.13484305 Spanish_Girona
0.13484716 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.13542420 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.13631502 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.13654776 Spanish_Valencia
0.13782137 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.13794722 Spanish_Lleida
0.13926901 Spanish_Cataluna
0.13932133 Spanish_Castello
0.13981224 Spanish_Pirineu
0.14036608 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.14055422 Spanish_Aragon
0.14084796 Spanish_Barcelones
0.14267048 Spanish_Cantabria
0.14412809 Spanish_Asturias
0.14427406 Spanish_Navarra
0.14509955 Spanish_Soria
0.14994014 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.15980830 Spanish_Pais_Vasco




Distance to: Turkish_Aydin
0.09849263 Italian_Calabria
0.09894210 Italian_Basilicata
0.10045890 Italian_Campania
0.10100470 Italian_Molise
0.10138686 Italian_Apulia
0.10145236 Sicilian_East
0.10277394 Italian_Abruzzo
0.10652146 Albanian
0.10758598 Italian_Umbria
0.10765988 Italian_Marche
0.11088646 Italian_Lazio
0.11336206 Italian_Tuscany
0.11714634 Italian_Piedmont
0.11973315 Italian_Liguria
0.12525131 Italian_Lombardy
0.12580974 Italian_Northeast
0.12638145 Italian_Veneto
0.12853031 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.12889140 Italian_Bergamo
0.13181309 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13214751 Spanish_Canarias
0.13452654 Spanish_Eivissa
0.13543192 Spanish_Murcia
0.13560543 Spanish_Mallorca
0.13570391 Spanish_Menorca
0.13606894 Spanish_Baleares
0.13672349 Spanish_Extremadura
0.13720060 Spanish_Andalucia
0.13797593 Spanish_Alacant
0.13828593 Spanish_Galicia
0.13896858 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.13908590 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.13970624 Spanish_Penedes
0.13996471 Spanish_Girona
0.14001851 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.14062380 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.14108365 Spanish_Valencia
0.14281956 Spanish_Lleida
0.14286380 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.14369175 Spanish_Cataluna
0.14413835 Spanish_Castello
0.14466449 Spanish_Pirineu
0.14530764 Spanish_Aragon
0.14536528 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.14546696 Spanish_Barcelones
0.14747066 Spanish_Cantabria
0.14784545 Spanish_Asturias
0.14879997 Spanish_Navarra
0.15063881 Spanish_Soria
0.15423920 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.16415735 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[Leto]

Yes I’m arab I didn’t claim to be anything else was you missing something. You can find them I post all my results should be somewhere on the thread I don’t use gedmatch anymore
Can't seem to find them. Anyway, you may as well take them from yourDNAportal.

[Leto]

You claim to be Arab but you have more Berber admixture than Riffians, lol.
His Red Sea is super fucking high (almost 20%).

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

There’s a huge difference those North Africans have iberomaurusian mixed with ssa making up 40 percent of there dna hence why they don’t plot closer

Those North Africans that you are excluding are the vast majority. No one can take seriously some cherry picked sample of one individual that fits whichever agenda you are trying to prove (which isn't even that close to Europeans to begin with, lol, but whatever). That's the equivalent of me posting some Iberian that plots with French people, something that doesn't represent by any means the average.

And by the way, you are not Semitic judging by your results. Don't tell me you are one of those Maghrebis that thinks he is an Arab, lol. There are no pure descendants of the Arabian Bedouin invaders aside from Arabia itself. They settled down and intermarried extensively with local pre-Arab inhabitants of North of Africa.

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Iranian_Bandari
0.15949483 Italian_Calabria
0.16254259 Italian_Campania
0.16309264 Italian_Basilicata
0.16363263 Sicilian_East
0.16586606 Italian_Apulia
0.16613718 Italian_Molise
0.16628015 Italian_Abruzzo
0.17343931 Italian_Umbria
0.17423859 Italian_Marche
0.17541626 Italian_Lazio
0.17583182 Albanian
0.17931742 Italian_Tuscany
0.18417389 Italian_Piedmont
0.18689526 Italian_Liguria
0.19018999 Spanish_Canarias
0.19274351 Italian_Northeast
0.19274490 Italian_Veneto
0.19414019 Italian_Lombardy
0.19525651 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.19656281 Italian_Bergamo
0.19661642 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19673664 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.19982656 Spanish_Eivissa
0.20003317 Spanish_Mallorca
0.20031761 Spanish_Alacant
0.20056353 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20113504 Spanish_Galicia
0.20144220 Spanish_Murcia
0.20173077 Spanish_Menorca
0.20198714 Spanish_Baleares
0.20240027 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20324490 Spanish_Penedes
0.20405688 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20412103 Spanish_Girona
0.20548448 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.20625568 Spanish_Valencia
0.20686380 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20698544 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.20799276 Spanish_Lleida
0.20840519 Spanish_Cataluna
0.20898150 Spanish_Barcelones
0.20939871 Spanish_Pirineu
0.20955531 Spanish_Castello
0.21000438 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.21020082 Spanish_Aragon
0.21161326 Spanish_Cantabria
0.21302970 Spanish_Navarra
0.21308595 Spanish_Asturias
0.21502025 Spanish_Soria
0.22188312 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.22752539 Spanish_Pais_Vasco





Distance to: Ingushian
0.11525066 Italian_Molise
0.11557309 Italian_Basilicata
0.11648531 Italian_Calabria
0.11705842 Italian_Abruzzo
0.11708136 Italian_Apulia
0.11739191 Italian_Campania
0.11955653 Sicilian_East
0.12143440 Italian_Marche
0.12184996 Italian_Umbria
0.12237276 Albanian
0.12633565 Italian_Lazio
0.12671762 Italian_Tuscany
0.13008761 Italian_Piedmont
0.13277811 Italian_Liguria
0.13724024 Italian_Northeast
0.13827600 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13873952 Italian_Veneto
0.13904724 Italian_Lombardy
0.14189162 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14256561 Italian_Bergamo
0.14963408 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15076031 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15195981 Spanish_Menorca
0.15254420 Spanish_Baleares
0.15282109 Spanish_Penedes
0.15357791 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15431368 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15456907 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15467335 Spanish_Alacant
0.15471126 Spanish_Girona
0.15496589 Spanish_Canarias
0.15511963 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15555108 Spanish_Galicia
0.15567555 Spanish_Murcia
0.15685612 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15694266 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15712865 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15719023 Spanish_Lleida
0.15785943 Spanish_Valencia
0.15925916 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.15953261 Spanish_Barcelones
0.15993927 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16078545 Spanish_Aragon
0.16079199 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16098336 Spanish_Castello
0.16313475 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16450213 Spanish_Asturias
0.16541420 Spanish_Navarra
0.16730604 Spanish_Soria
0.17343672 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17814404 Spanish_Pais_Vasco



I have now tried to see the distance between all kinds of west asians to south west euros. Even the most south asian shifted ones(bandaris, who can be modelled like 4/10 mazandarani and rest pashtun afghans like me).


Edited: My bad. My bad.

THought Most euro berbers would get spanish at distance of 18 in avg. It turned more out like 16,6. So west asians are only slightly closer to south west euros than berbers are.

[Adamm]

More:


Distance to: Iranian_Bandari
0.15949483 Italian_Calabria
0.16254259 Italian_Campania
0.16309264 Italian_Basilicata
0.16363263 Sicilian_East
0.16586606 Italian_Apulia
0.16613718 Italian_Molise
0.16628015 Italian_Abruzzo
0.17343931 Italian_Umbria
0.17423859 Italian_Marche
0.17541626 Italian_Lazio
0.17583182 Albanian
0.17931742 Italian_Tuscany
0.18417389 Italian_Piedmont
0.18689526 Italian_Liguria
0.19018999 Spanish_Canarias
0.19274351 Italian_Northeast
0.19274490 Italian_Veneto
0.19414019 Italian_Lombardy
0.19525651 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.19656281 Italian_Bergamo
0.19661642 Spanish_Extremadura
0.19673664 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.19982656 Spanish_Eivissa
0.20003317 Spanish_Mallorca
0.20031761 Spanish_Alacant
0.20056353 Spanish_Andalucia
0.20113504 Spanish_Galicia
0.20144220 Spanish_Murcia
0.20173077 Spanish_Menorca
0.20198714 Spanish_Baleares
0.20240027 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.20324490 Spanish_Penedes
0.20405688 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.20412103 Spanish_Girona
0.20548448 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.20625568 Spanish_Valencia
0.20686380 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.20698544 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.20799276 Spanish_Lleida
0.20840519 Spanish_Cataluna
0.20898150 Spanish_Barcelones
0.20939871 Spanish_Pirineu
0.20955531 Spanish_Castello
0.21000438 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.21020082 Spanish_Aragon
0.21161326 Spanish_Cantabria
0.21302970 Spanish_Navarra
0.21308595 Spanish_Asturias
0.21502025 Spanish_Soria
0.22188312 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.22752539 Spanish_Pais_Vasco





Distance to: Ingushian
0.11525066 Italian_Molise
0.11557309 Italian_Basilicata
0.11648531 Italian_Calabria
0.11705842 Italian_Abruzzo
0.11708136 Italian_Apulia
0.11739191 Italian_Campania
0.11955653 Sicilian_East
0.12143440 Italian_Marche
0.12184996 Italian_Umbria
0.12237276 Albanian
0.12633565 Italian_Lazio
0.12671762 Italian_Tuscany
0.13008761 Italian_Piedmont
0.13277811 Italian_Liguria
0.13724024 Italian_Northeast
0.13827600 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.13873952 Italian_Veneto
0.13904724 Italian_Lombardy
0.14189162 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.14256561 Italian_Bergamo
0.14963408 Spanish_Mallorca
0.15076031 Spanish_Eivissa
0.15195981 Spanish_Menorca
0.15254420 Spanish_Baleares
0.15282109 Spanish_Penedes
0.15357791 Spanish_Extremadura
0.15431368 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.15456907 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.15467335 Spanish_Alacant
0.15471126 Spanish_Girona
0.15496589 Spanish_Canarias
0.15511963 Spanish_Andalucia
0.15555108 Spanish_Galicia
0.15567555 Spanish_Murcia
0.15685612 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.15694266 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.15712865 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.15719023 Spanish_Lleida
0.15785943 Spanish_Valencia
0.15925916 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.15953261 Spanish_Barcelones
0.15993927 Spanish_Cataluna
0.16078545 Spanish_Aragon
0.16079199 Spanish_Pirineu
0.16098336 Spanish_Castello
0.16313475 Spanish_Cantabria
0.16450213 Spanish_Asturias
0.16541420 Spanish_Navarra
0.16730604 Spanish_Soria
0.17343672 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.17814404 Spanish_Pais_Vasco



I have now tried to see the distance between all kinds of west asians to south west euros. Even the most south asian shifted ones(bandaris, who can be modelled like 4/10 mazandarani and rest pashtun afghans like me).


It seems like all west asians really are significantly closer to south euros than berbers are, excluding north african admixed south euros(even italians were closer).

It seems like the only "west asians" less closer to euros compared to the berbers in OP are bandaris, but theyre still not much further from south west euros than most euro berbers are.


Now this is kind of a bit interesting

It is the Aryan connection between Euros and Indians.

Can you also run my coordinates on that datasheet you are using there and compare my distance?

[Nomansman]

It is the Aryan connection between Euros and Indians.

Can you also run my coordinates on that datasheet you are using there and compare my distance?

Ok. Just send me them through PM

[marco]

His Red Sea is super fucking high (almost 20%).
Yes that’s how I like it super high, Because I’m an arab. Wanna see my G25 results as well? If it distracts you from the topic at hand about results I posted myself on the thread I’m flattered you are interested in me but I don’t swing that way so you got the wrong idea

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

His Red Sea is super fucking high (almost 20%).

His Red Sea is completely normal. Moroccan average on K13 for Read Sea is 18%. He just doesn't know how to interpret his own results and thinks he is a Bedouin, lol.

[marco]

Those North Africans that you are excluding are the vast majority. No one can take seriously some cherry picked sample of one individual that fits whichever agenda you are trying to prove (which isn't even that close to Europeans to begin with, lol, but whatever). That's the equivalent of me posting some Iberian that plots with French people, something that doesn't represent by any means the average.

And by the way, you are not Semitic judging by your results. Don't tell me you are one of those Maghrebis that thinks he is an Arab, lol. There are no pure descendants of the Arabian Bedouin invaders aside from Arabia itself. They settled down and intermarried extensively with local pre-Arab inhabitants of North of Africa.

My results clearly show I’m arab I’m just awaiting my 23 and me results

[Nomansman]

Distance to: Adammm_scaled
0.14885941 Spanish_Canarias
0.16631631 Italian_Calabria
0.16651492 Sicilian_East
0.16942844 Italian_Campania
0.17251031 Italian_Basilicata
0.17353439 Italian_Apulia
0.17588827 Italian_Abruzzo
0.17704017 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17734272 Portuguese
0.17759972 Italian_Lazio
0.17905638 Italian_Molise
0.18043322 Spanish_Andalucia
0.18109399 Italian_Umbria
0.18150017 Spanish_Murcia
0.18170306 Italian_Marche
0.18192617 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.18229240 Spanish_Galicia
0.18561473 Italian_Tuscany
0.18661589 Italian_Liguria
0.18742882 Spanish_Asturias
0.18807643 Spanish_Alacant
0.18901277 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18927827 Spanish_Menorca
0.18936063 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.19049037 Italian_Piedmont
0.19178448 Spanish_Valencia
0.19204386 Spanish_Baleares
0.19222063 Albanian
0.19296469 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19402610 Italian_Lombardy
0.19437804 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19486750 Spanish_Aragon
0.19521064 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.19576565 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.19578050 Italian_Bergamo
0.19649361 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19653203 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19677310 Spanish_Navarra
0.19684073 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19713680 Spanish_Castello
0.19801542 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19836558 Spanish_Girona
0.19871264 Italian_Veneto
0.19884825 Spanish_Lleida
0.19912585 Spanish_Penedes
0.19990462 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.20003259 Spanish_Barcelones
0.20107250 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.20391233 Italian_Northeast
0.20416453 Spanish_Soria
0.20925215 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.21210643 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

[Nomansman]

Yes that’s how I like it super high, Because I’m an arab. Wanna see my G25 results as well? If it distracts you from the topic at hand about results I posted myself on the thread I’m flattered you are interested in me but I don’t swing that way so you got the wrong idea

Can you post your g25 coordinates somewhere? I would like to run with those as well, if you dont mind?

[Nordarya]

Those North Africans that you are excluding are the vast majority. No one can take seriously some cherry picked sample of one individual that fits whichever agenda you are trying to prove (which isn't even that close to Europeans to begin with, lol, but whatever). That's the equivalent of me posting some Iberian that plots with French people, something that doesn't represent by any means the average.

And by the way, you are not Semitic judging by your results. Don't tell me you are one of those Maghrebis that thinks he is an Arab, lol. There are no pure descendants of the Arabian Bedouin invaders aside from Arabia itself. They settled down and intermarried extensively with local pre-Arab inhabitants of North of Africa.

TBH, France is a much more diverse country within the Indo-European family by having three branches plus Basque, while Iberia shares its only I-E branch and the other one is Basque. This just means that the Celto-Germanic heritages makes France different, but is otherwise the same as Iberia.

[Adamm]

Distance to: Adammm_scaled
0.14885941 Spanish_Canarias
0.16631631 Italian_Calabria
0.16651492 Sicilian_East
0.16942844 Italian_Campania
0.17251031 Italian_Basilicata
0.17353439 Italian_Apulia
0.17588827 Italian_Abruzzo
0.17704017 Spanish_Extremadura
0.17734272 Portuguese
0.17759972 Italian_Lazio
0.17905638 Italian_Molise
0.18043322 Spanish_Andalucia
0.18109399 Italian_Umbria
0.18150017 Spanish_Murcia
0.18170306 Italian_Marche
0.18192617 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.18229240 Spanish_Galicia
0.18561473 Italian_Tuscany
0.18661589 Italian_Liguria
0.18742882 Spanish_Asturias
0.18807643 Spanish_Alacant
0.18901277 Spanish_Eivissa
0.18927827 Spanish_Menorca
0.18936063 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.19049037 Italian_Piedmont
0.19178448 Spanish_Valencia
0.19204386 Spanish_Baleares
0.19222063 Albanian
0.19296469 Spanish_Cataluna
0.19402610 Italian_Lombardy
0.19437804 Spanish_Mallorca
0.19486750 Spanish_Aragon
0.19521064 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.19576565 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.19578050 Italian_Bergamo
0.19649361 Spanish_Pirineu
0.19653203 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.19677310 Spanish_Navarra
0.19684073 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.19713680 Spanish_Castello
0.19801542 Spanish_Cantabria
0.19836558 Spanish_Girona
0.19871264 Italian_Veneto
0.19884825 Spanish_Lleida
0.19912585 Spanish_Penedes
0.19990462 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.20003259 Spanish_Barcelones
0.20107250 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.20391233 Italian_Northeast
0.20416453 Spanish_Soria
0.20925215 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.21210643 Spanish_Pais_Vasco

So now we can say the following based upon G25:

Iberians are closer to South Asians than to Berbers/North Africans.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

My results clearly show I’m arab I’m just awaiting my 23 and me results

They don't at all. You are going to be dissapointed when you receive your 23andMe, just warning you. You might have Semitic ancestors somewhere down your ancestry but autosomally you are much more North African than Semitic.

[Adamm]

They don't at all. You are going to be dissapointed when you receive your 23andMe, just warning you. You might have Semitic ancestors somewhere down your ancestry but autosomally you are much more North African than Semitic.

He has a higher N. African admixture on his MyHeritage results than me, the problem with Marco is that he identifies as Arab because his haplogroup turned out to be J.

[Nomansman]

So now we can say the following based upon G25:

Iberians are closer to South Asians than to Berbers/North Africans.

We dont knw exactly, but i can check it out

[Avicenna]

So now we can say the following based upon G25:

Iberians are closer to South Asians than to Berbers/North Africans.

Whats your ethnicity adamm?

[Adamm]

Whats your ethnicity adamm?

Zenati Berber.

[Avicenna]

So now we can say the following based upon G25:

Iberians are closer to South Asians than to Berbers/North Africans.

South asians such as?

[Nomansman]

I know this is a bit out of topic, but we have seen how close non-euros are to euros.

Now we can see how close latter is to former:


Distance to: Albanian
0.09725727 Turkish_Kayseri
0.09933830 Turkish_Adana
0.10035879 Turkish_Central
0.10238526 Turkish_Northwest
0.10652146 Turkish_Aydin
0.11209224 Armenian
0.11223387 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.11265140 Kumyk
0.11508551 Azeri_Turkey
0.11570310 Turkish_North
0.11575147 Azeri_Dagestan
0.11757177 Adygei
0.11827567 Assyrian
0.11879415 Ezid
0.12012654 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.12024934 Azeri
0.12123702 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.12136549 Karachay
0.12237276 Ingushian
0.12333362 Turkish_South
0.12340710 Balkar
0.12357822 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.12363102 Kurdish
0.12375839 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.12416890 Chechen
0.12753040 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.12957061 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.13344571 Iranian_Fars
0.13359618 North_Ossetian
0.13881491 Iranian_Seyyed
0.15248056 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.17023448 Libyan:LIB9
0.17583182 Iranian_Bandari
0.17631451 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18495574 Nomansman_scaled
0.18531611 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.18645109 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.18998325 Kabyle_scaled
0.19222063 Adammm_scaled
0.19755574 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20876262 Ror:Ror_37
0.21444275 Ror:Ror_11
0.21456118 Ror:Ror_12
0.21543121 Ror:Ror_29
0.21657379 Ror:Ror_49
0.21695434 Ror:Ror_17
0.21706630 Ror:Ror_25
0.21818032 Ror:Ror_20
0.21823573 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21845136 Ror:Ror_55
0.21851616 Ror:Ror_83
0.22031087 Ror:Ror_10
0.22059327 Ror:Ror_52
0.22332686 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.22466780 Ror:Ror_45
0.22967438 Ror:Ror_44
0.23014721 Ror:Ror_56
0.23028202 Khatri:K-71
0.24450993 Moroccan_South:ERR12



Distance to: Portuguese
0.13026503 Turkish_Northwest
0.13219961 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13221810 Turkish_Adana
0.13315958 Turkish_Central
0.13460803 Turkish_Aydin
0.14415974 Kumyk
0.14637203 Turkish_North
0.14733970 Azeri_Dagestan
0.14805604 Azeri_Turkey
0.14933436 Turkish_South
0.14956077 Adygei
0.14989276 Armenian
0.15072017 Ezid
0.15160438 Karachay
0.15218531 Azeri
0.15254133 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15291850 Ingushian
0.15376989 Balkar
0.15378564 Assyrian
0.15383999 Chechen
0.15689969 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.15710062 Kurdish
0.15954381 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16017315 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16109086 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16179700 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16192885 North_Ossetian
0.16367584 Iranian_Fars
0.16511494 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.16518896 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16724140 Libyan:LIB9
0.16740870 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17514688 Kabyle_scaled
0.17734272 Adammm_scaled
0.18473982 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19797642 Iranian_Bandari
0.20436871 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20450191 Nomansman_scaled
0.20507283 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.20571904 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21455201 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21900759 Ror:Ror_37
0.22370075 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22438689 Ror:Ror_12
0.22634565 Ror:Ror_49
0.22640202 Ror:Ror_11
0.22756881 Ror:Ror_29
0.22868714 Ror:Ror_17
0.22887791 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22927886 Ror:Ror_20
0.22953682 Ror:Ror_83
0.23004261 Ror:Ror_25
0.23066170 Ror:Ror_55
0.23181275 Ror:Ror_52
0.23326576 Ror:Ror_10
0.23549433 Ror:Ror_45
0.24228467 Ror:Ror_44
0.24429608 Ror:Ror_56
0.24564188 Khatri:K-71

[Adamm]

South asians such as?

Afghans, Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis.

[Nomansman]

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Distance to: Italian_Abruzzo
0.08352641 Turkish_Kayseri
0.08679338 Turkish_Adana
0.08988647 Turkish_Central
0.09033400 Armenian
0.09553565 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.09557737 Assyrian
0.09942060 Turkish_Northwest
0.10129855 Azeri_Turkey
0.10228740 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.10277394 Turkish_Aydin
0.10305304 Ezid
0.10328987 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.10621408 Azeri_Dagestan
0.10670323 Azeri
0.10725998 Kurdish
0.10735821 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.10907173 Kumyk
0.10947725 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.11094980 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.11179545 Turkish_North
0.11244220 Adygei
0.11566132 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.11705842 Ingushian
0.11809639 Karachay
0.11856644 Turkish_South
0.11988403 Chechen
0.12044621 Iranian_Fars
0.12086876 Balkar
0.12539026 Iranian_Seyyed
0.12763356 North_Ossetian
0.13993133 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15312622 Libyan:LIB9
0.15944378 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16628015 Iranian_Bandari
0.17588827 Adammm_scaled
0.17597693 Kabyle_scaled
0.18292697 Nomansman_scaled
0.18503520 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.18593680 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.19696753 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20810194 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.21222655 Ror:Ror_37
0.21680770 Ror:Ror_11
0.21795386 Ror:Ror_12
0.21870531 Ror:Ror_17
0.21874271 Ror:Ror_29
0.21935230 Ror:Ror_49
0.21965664 Ror:Ror_25
0.22078049 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22079141 Ror:Ror_20
0.22083030 Ror:Ror_55
0.22176538 Ror:Ror_83
0.22360872 Ror:Ror_52
0.22403488 Ror:Ror_10
0.22792872 Ror:Ror_45
0.22952235 Khatri:K-71
0.22990953 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.23169904 Ror:Ror_44
0.23298323 Ror:Ror_56




Distance to: Italian_Campania
0.07800838 Turkish_Kayseri
0.08172247 Armenian
0.08203226 Turkish_Adana
0.08551352 Turkish_Central
0.08631023 Assyrian
0.08938281 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.09513073 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.09635180 Azeri_Turkey
0.09753066 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.09767446 Ezid
0.09795247 Turkish_Northwest
0.10045890 Turkish_Aydin
0.10147667 Kurdish
0.10148593 Azeri
0.10169435 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.10263699 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.10407205 Azeri_Dagestan
0.10715402 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.10920932 Kumyk
0.10941605 Turkish_North
0.11151820 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.11232260 Adygei
0.11594520 Iranian_Fars
0.11616296 Turkish_South
0.11739191 Ingushian
0.11803247 Karachay
0.12037430 Iranian_Seyyed
0.12090672 Chechen
0.12137643 Balkar
0.12708010 North_Ossetian
0.13547680 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.14517735 Libyan:LIB9
0.15248488 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16254259 Iranian_Bandari
0.16942844 Adammm_scaled
0.17023323 Kabyle_scaled
0.18322904 Nomansman_scaled
0.18547848 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.18597640 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.19703818 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20203151 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.21467030 Ror:Ror_37
0.21865159 Ror:Ror_11
0.22003794 Ror:Ror_17
0.22018120 Ror:Ror_12
0.22070370 Ror:Ror_29
0.22108923 Ror:Ror_25
0.22141491 Ror:Ror_49
0.22242273 Ror:Ror_55
0.22250239 Ror:Ror_20
0.22259865 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22389922 Ror:Ror_83
0.22431529 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22519136 Ror:Ror_52
0.22583208 Ror:Ror_10
0.22928657 Khatri:K-71
0.22989349 Ror:Ror_45
0.23262631 Ror:Ror_44
0.23497710 Ror:Ror_56

[Nomansman]

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Distance to: Italian_Northeast
0.12044159 Turkish_Northwest
0.12255380 Turkish_Kayseri
0.12334835 Turkish_Adana
0.12388349 Turkish_Central
0.12580974 Turkish_Aydin
0.12861367 Kumyk
0.13430099 Adygei
0.13462895 Azeri_Dagestan
0.13555478 Turkish_North
0.13724024 Ingushian
0.13726471 Karachay
0.13727518 Chechen
0.13814456 Balkar
0.13849675 Azeri_Turkey
0.13912783 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.14039698 Armenian
0.14065635 Turkish_South
0.14168184 Ezid
0.14310165 Azeri
0.14610094 Assyrian
0.14612055 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.14706172 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.14713180 Kurdish
0.14877568 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.14887908 North_Ossetian
0.14920385 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.14977344 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.15439638 Iranian_Fars
0.15451151 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.15976802 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17347237 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18702226 Libyan:LIB9
0.18963611 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19274351 Iranian_Bandari
0.19409123 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19415360 Nomansman_scaled
0.19562352 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20109263 Kabyle_scaled
0.20391233 Adammm_scaled
0.20611587 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21129746 Ror:Ror_37
0.21678608 Ror:Ror_12
0.21835255 Ror:Ror_11
0.21913690 Ror:Ror_29
0.21940368 Ror:Ror_49
0.22150694 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22194864 Ror:Ror_25
0.22204396 Ror:Ror_20
0.22208114 Ror:Ror_83
0.22217680 Ror:Ror_17
0.22284255 Ror:Ror_55
0.22433470 Ror:Ror_52
0.22440665 Ror:Ror_10
0.22785457 Ror:Ror_45
0.23334619 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.23418815 Ror:Ror_56
0.23518777 Ror:Ror_44
0.23895119 Khatri:K-71
0.25279792 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.43990791 Moroccan_South:ERR11


Distance to: Sicilian_East
0.08115405 Turkish_Kayseri
0.08501930 Turkish_Adana
0.08676003 Armenian
0.08763724 Turkish_Central
0.09163196 Assyrian
0.09377088 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.09817075 Azeri_Turkey
0.09953596 Turkish_Northwest
0.10026293 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.10083127 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.10135384 Ezid
0.10145236 Turkish_Aydin
0.10449413 Azeri
0.10613596 Kurdish
0.10627273 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.10680073 Azeri_Dagestan
0.10707007 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.11068384 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.11078251 Turkish_North
0.11164450 Kumyk
0.11454080 Adygei
0.11514409 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.11787172 Turkish_South
0.11892741 Iranian_Fars
0.11955653 Ingushian
0.11974180 Karachay
0.12298335 Iranian_Seyyed
0.12327875 Balkar
0.12360993 Chechen
0.12885372 North_Ossetian
0.13874455 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.14383706 Libyan:LIB9
0.14929509 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16363263 Iranian_Bandari
0.16597812 Kabyle_scaled
0.16651492 Adammm_scaled
0.18437707 Nomansman_scaled
0.18564153 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.18728535 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.19730019 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.19820863 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.21425292 Ror:Ror_37
0.21829755 Ror:Ror_11
0.21905031 Ror:Ror_17
0.21979720 Ror:Ror_12
0.22087879 Ror:Ror_25
0.22118695 Ror:Ror_29
0.22157264 Ror:Ror_49
0.22170707 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22196670 Ror:Ror_20
0.22196766 Ror:Ror_55
0.22243139 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22297323 Ror:Ror_83
0.22541913 Ror:Ror_52
0.22579511 Ror:Ror_10
0.22954608 Ror:Ror_45
0.22965758 Khatri:K-71
0.23325630 Ror:Ror_44
0.23520157 Ror:Ror_56

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Distance to: Spanish_Andalucia
0.13306783 Turkish_Northwest
0.13427960 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13451254 Turkish_Adana
0.13539119 Turkish_Central
0.13720060 Turkish_Aydin
0.14669369 Kumyk
0.14861068 Turkish_North
0.14965238 Azeri_Dagestan
0.14967128 Azeri_Turkey
0.15132855 Armenian
0.15174852 Adygei
0.15217614 Turkish_South
0.15294499 Ezid
0.15384313 Karachay
0.15404283 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15450915 Azeri
0.15511963 Ingushian
0.15556079 Assyrian
0.15605225 Balkar
0.15656431 Chechen
0.15816109 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.15940641 Kurdish
0.16153585 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16198398 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16240627 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16339036 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16418408 North_Ossetian
0.16599876 Iranian_Fars
0.16686816 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.16919579 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.16978584 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17135565 Libyan:LIB9
0.17836774 Kabyle_scaled
0.18043322 Adammm_scaled
0.18674996 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.20056353 Iranian_Bandari
0.20654502 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20714104 Nomansman_scaled
0.20826736 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.20866095 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21673907 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.22148677 Ror:Ror_37
0.22711905 Ror:Ror_12
0.22745038 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22896250 Ror:Ror_11
0.22929211 Ror:Ror_49
0.23026872 Ror:Ror_29
0.23105048 Ror:Ror_17
0.23164134 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.23171025 Ror:Ror_83
0.23181826 Ror:Ror_20
0.23258033 Ror:Ror_25
0.23294548 Ror:Ror_55
0.23473034 Ror:Ror_52
0.23581757 Ror:Ror_10
0.23806346 Ror:Ror_45
0.24517707 Ror:Ror_44
0.24653490 Ror:Ror_56
0.24832987 Khatri:K-71




Distance to: Spanish_Alacant
0.13339330 Turkish_Northwest
0.13517727 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13527845 Turkish_Adana
0.13631177 Turkish_Central
0.13797593 Turkish_Aydin
0.14607613 Kumyk
0.14911643 Turkish_North
0.14931500 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15067058 Azeri_Turkey
0.15158622 Adygei
0.15226772 Turkish_South
0.15244965 Armenian
0.15299216 Ezid
0.15380553 Karachay
0.15434331 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15467335 Ingushian
0.15501687 Azeri
0.15526187 Chechen
0.15570369 Balkar
0.15676439 Assyrian
0.15919434 Kurdish
0.15955125 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16142124 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16221445 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16300967 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16424674 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16443044 North_Ossetian
0.16589828 Iranian_Fars
0.16810503 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.17007261 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17580107 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.17792018 Libyan:LIB9
0.18616494 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18628684 Kabyle_scaled
0.18807643 Adammm_scaled
0.20031761 Iranian_Bandari
0.20502140 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20512698 Nomansman_scaled
0.20640294 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21542590 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21572947 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.21915337 Ror:Ror_37
0.22459747 Ror:Ror_12
0.22652323 Ror:Ror_11
0.22656197 Ror:Ror_49
0.22753788 Ror:Ror_29
0.22935204 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22955159 Ror:Ror_17
0.22982415 Ror:Ror_20
0.22993585 Ror:Ror_83
0.23036849 Ror:Ror_25
0.23094319 Ror:Ror_55
0.23196168 Ror:Ror_52
0.23302703 Ror:Ror_10
0.23471789 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.23568595 Ror:Ror_45
0.24277031 Ror:Ror_44
0.24397527 Ror:Ror_56
0.24664021 Khatri:K-71

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Distance to: Spanish_Murcia
0.13134616 Turkish_Northwest
0.13373092 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13401701 Turkish_Adana
0.13455928 Turkish_Central
0.13543192 Turkish_Aydin
0.14660044 Kumyk
0.14741242 Turkish_North
0.14997627 Azeri_Turkey
0.15007746 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15062826 Turkish_South
0.15171006 Armenian
0.15190349 Adygei
0.15322938 Ezid
0.15373414 Karachay
0.15398430 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15429436 Azeri
0.15567555 Ingushian
0.15579272 Balkar
0.15603090 Assyrian
0.15690045 Chechen
0.15882095 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.15995360 Kurdish
0.16166582 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16261204 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16281887 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16338396 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16468750 North_Ossetian
0.16646675 Iranian_Fars
0.16696634 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.16933056 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.17023000 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17082265 Libyan:LIB9
0.17939766 Kabyle_scaled
0.18150017 Adammm_scaled
0.18758547 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.20144220 Iranian_Bandari
0.20710933 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20815589 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20826710 Nomansman_scaled
0.21017588 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.21690654 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.22163320 Ror:Ror_37
0.22709875 Ror:Ror_12
0.22870295 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.22902903 Ror:Ror_49
0.22947354 Ror:Ror_11
0.23019501 Ror:Ror_29
0.23163053 Ror:Ror_17
0.23185357 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.23191871 Ror:Ror_20
0.23220056 Ror:Ror_83
0.23306005 Ror:Ror_25
0.23358447 Ror:Ror_55
0.23426602 Ror:Ror_52
0.23544026 Ror:Ror_10
0.23812558 Ror:Ror_45
0.24493473 Ror:Ror_44
0.24691338 Ror:Ror_56
0.24851613 Khatri:K-71





Distance to: Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.13782137 Turkish_Northwest
0.13981694 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14025778 Turkish_Adana
0.14109588 Turkish_Central
0.14286380 Turkish_Aydin
0.14885163 Kumyk
0.15342915 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15353271 Turkish_North
0.15367016 Adygei
0.15558450 Azeri_Turkey
0.15624049 Armenian
0.15669751 Karachay
0.15685612 Ingushian
0.15687965 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15712040 Turkish_South
0.15722084 Chechen
0.15805557 Ezid
0.15820722 Balkar
0.16009215 Azeri
0.16110209 Assyrian
0.16225826 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16400441 Kurdish
0.16501295 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16529175 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16641113 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16648302 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16724092 North_Ossetian
0.17084905 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.17114559 Iranian_Fars
0.17571274 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18481394 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18623690 Libyan:LIB9
0.19111417 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19464116 Kabyle_scaled
0.19684073 Adammm_scaled
0.20698544 Iranian_Bandari
0.21000075 Nomansman_scaled
0.21010825 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.21135337 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.22058266 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.22360582 Ror:Ror_37
0.22491903 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.22923837 Ror:Ror_12
0.23114781 Ror:Ror_11
0.23124871 Ror:Ror_49
0.23203314 Ror:Ror_29
0.23397250 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.23440687 Ror:Ror_17
0.23446104 Ror:Ror_20
0.23457755 Ror:Ror_83
0.23508779 Ror:Ror_25
0.23569117 Ror:Ror_55
0.23688884 Ror:Ror_52
0.23755173 Ror:Ror_10
0.24033600 Ror:Ror_45
0.24335577 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.24776418 Ror:Ror_44
0.24795912 Ror:Ror_56
0.25214134 Khatri:K-71

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Distance to: Russian_Kostroma:RUS_Kostr170
0.15847656 Turkish_Northwest
0.15904680 Kumyk
0.16315689 Balkar
0.16374458 Turkish_Aydin
0.16530873 Karachay
0.16708081 Chechen
0.16866668 Ingushian
0.17059239 Adygei
0.17070090 Turkish_North
0.17255143 Turkish_South
0.17473091 Azeri_Dagestan
0.17493968 Turkish_Central
0.17651944 Turkish_Adana
0.17672398 North_Ossetian
0.18014564 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18739815 Azeri_Turkey
0.19039309 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19074003 Azeri
0.19447334 Ezid
0.19491871 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19494025 Ror:Ror_37
0.19559751 Nomansman_scaled
0.19591130 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.19622765 Iranian_Fars
0.19812040 Ror:Ror_12
0.20013085 Iranian_Seyyed
0.20100383 Kurdish
0.20157607 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20279129 Ror:Ror_83
0.20304353 Ror:Ror_29
0.20470379 Ror:Ror_11
0.20491764 Ror:Ror_49
0.20556605 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.20623486 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.20666030 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.20766650 Ror:Ror_20
0.20902404 Ror:Ror_45
0.20939945 Ror:Ror_25
0.20986242 Ror:Ror_10
0.20991774 Ror:Ror_55
0.21003038 Ror:Ror_52
0.21072006 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.21088656 Ror:Ror_17
0.21150472 Armenian
0.21238895 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.21374818 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.21532912 Assyrian
0.21673407 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.21702386 Ror:Ror_56
0.21790549 Iranian_Bandari
0.22087788 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.22325667 Ror:Ror_44
0.23330270 Khatri:K-71
0.24682639 Libyan:LIB9
0.25161198 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.25924771 Kabyle_scaled
0.26315554 Adammm_scaled
0.28873544 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.30484117 Moroccan_South:ERR12




Distance to: Belarusian:Belarusian1
0.17645728 Turkish_Northwest
0.17659416 Kumyk
0.18187082 Turkish_Aydin
0.18189833 Balkar
0.18317671 Chechen
0.18347319 Karachay
0.18517880 Adygei
0.18520995 Ingushian
0.18912801 Turkish_Central
0.18924055 Azeri_Dagestan
0.18968722 Turkish_Adana
0.18976741 Turkish_North
0.19169909 Turkish_Kayseri
0.19309522 Turkish_South
0.19463736 North_Ossetian
0.20023812 Azeri_Turkey
0.20427119 Azeri
0.20441705 Ezid
0.20630695 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.20913242 Iranian_Fars
0.21083941 Kurdish
0.21184727 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.21211149 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.21293910 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.21317773 Iranian_Seyyed
0.21502438 Nomansman_scaled
0.21589394 Ror:Ror_37
0.21670694 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21694190 Armenian
0.21777606 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.21981895 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.22073508 Ror:Ror_12
0.22147133 Assyrian
0.22363541 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.22395158 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.22433441 Ror:Ror_29
0.22448943 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.22458800 Ror:Ror_83
0.22510277 Ror:Ror_11
0.22587780 Ror:Ror_49
0.22674862 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.22715596 Ror:Ror_20
0.22720628 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22860392 Ror:Ror_25
0.22945331 Ror:Ror_55
0.23036307 Ror:Ror_17
0.23054030 Ror:Ror_10
0.23054175 Ror:Ror_45
0.23088488 Ror:Ror_52
0.23165790 Iranian_Bandari
0.23860258 Ror:Ror_56
0.24365376 Ror:Ror_44
0.24829568 Libyan:LIB9
0.25266251 Khatri:K-71
0.25383945 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.25741335 Kabyle_scaled
0.26191147 Adammm_scaled
0.28750573 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.30287165 Moroccan_South:ERR12

[Avicenna]

Afghans, Iranians, Indians, Pakistanis.

Not south asian, not south asian, depends which ethnic group, yes

I got your point though :)

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Spanish_Valencia
0.13654776 Turkish_Northwest
0.13914803 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13953296 Turkish_Adana
0.14007651 Turkish_Central
0.14108365 Turkish_Aydin
0.14963049 Kumyk
0.15213376 Turkish_North
0.15369751 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15455572 Adygei
0.15480882 Azeri_Turkey
0.15572164 Turkish_South
0.15675152 Karachay
0.15694618 Armenian
0.15785943 Ingushian
0.15828342 Ezid
0.15847066 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15853203 Balkar
0.15896617 Chechen
0.15945800 Azeri
0.16154938 Assyrian
0.16277239 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16461345 Kurdish
0.16631471 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16631846 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16696802 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16734258 North_Ossetian
0.16773249 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17105163 Iranian_Fars
0.17175102 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.17528136 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18031074 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18231506 Libyan:LIB9
0.18988267 Kabyle_scaled
0.19157764 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19178448 Adammm_scaled
0.20625568 Iranian_Bandari
0.20931382 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20996212 Nomansman_scaled
0.21121841 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21916945 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21994883 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.22309067 Ror:Ror_37
0.22871456 Ror:Ror_12
0.23081102 Ror:Ror_11
0.23096365 Ror:Ror_49
0.23207512 Ror:Ror_29
0.23343599 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.23358647 Ror:Ror_17
0.23364499 Ror:Ror_83
0.23378809 Ror:Ror_20
0.23478008 Ror:Ror_25
0.23506048 Ror:Ror_55
0.23648381 Ror:Ror_52
0.23732089 Ror:Ror_10
0.23831566 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.23982992 Ror:Ror_45
0.24725911 Ror:Ror_44
0.24761574 Ror:Ror_56
0.25119274 Khatri:K-71





Distance to: Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk18
0.16380203 Kumyk
0.16512776 Turkish_Northwest
0.16861325 Balkar
0.17044709 Chechen
0.17045250 Turkish_Aydin
0.17057231 Karachay
0.17260491 Ingushian
0.17354382 Adygei
0.17633401 Azeri_Dagestan
0.17756261 Turkish_North
0.17819606 Turkish_Central
0.17840500 Turkish_Adana
0.18098475 Turkish_South
0.18125979 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18160524 North_Ossetian
0.18809573 Azeri_Turkey
0.19229899 Azeri
0.19305565 Ezid
0.19376754 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19550439 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19636281 Iranian_Fars
0.19893908 Nomansman_scaled
0.19946091 Kurdish
0.20046612 Ror:Ror_37
0.20062024 Iranian_Seyyed
0.20187590 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20396080 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.20406916 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.20566993 Ror:Ror_12
0.20823279 Armenian
0.20847231 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20855331 Ror:Ror_83
0.20894578 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.20954751 Ror:Ror_29
0.20994008 Ror:Ror_11
0.21105300 Ror:Ror_49
0.21129211 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.21135366 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.21227996 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21247036 Assyrian
0.21258623 Ror:Ror_20
0.21389471 Ror:Ror_25
0.21433263 Ror:Ror_55
0.21468574 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.21506150 Ror:Ror_45
0.21535630 Ror:Ror_17
0.21596338 Ror:Ror_10
0.21612908 Ror:Ror_52
0.21800726 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.21806394 Iranian_Bandari
0.22261012 Ror:Ror_56
0.22903677 Ror:Ror_44
0.23731395 Khatri:K-71
0.24368884 Libyan:LIB9
0.24978722 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.25505517 Kabyle_scaled
0.25880385 Adammm_scaled
0.28474181 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.30014770 Moroccan_South:ERR12




Apparently it seems like although most(if not all south euros) are significatly to slightly closer to most euro berbers than pashtuns, they dont turn much closer though and are really far from both. THeyre all however closest to armenians and turks and specially south italians.


Its interesting to notice that the russians are not only closer to pashtuns than berbers significantly, theyre not even much closer to caucasians(still significantly closer to some) than to pashtuns. I wonder how close they be to pamiris then?

[Adamm]

More:


Distance to: Spanish_Valencia
0.13654776 Turkish_Northwest
0.13914803 Turkish_Kayseri
0.13953296 Turkish_Adana
0.14007651 Turkish_Central
0.14108365 Turkish_Aydin
0.14963049 Kumyk
0.15213376 Turkish_North
0.15369751 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15455572 Adygei
0.15480882 Azeri_Turkey
0.15572164 Turkish_South
0.15675152 Karachay
0.15694618 Armenian
0.15785943 Ingushian
0.15828342 Ezid
0.15847066 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15853203 Balkar
0.15896617 Chechen
0.15945800 Azeri
0.16154938 Assyrian
0.16277239 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16461345 Kurdish
0.16631471 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16631846 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.16696802 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16734258 North_Ossetian
0.16773249 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17105163 Iranian_Fars
0.17175102 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.17528136 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18031074 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18231506 Libyan:LIB9
0.18988267 Kabyle_scaled
0.19157764 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19178448 Adammm_scaled
0.20625568 Iranian_Bandari
0.20931382 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20996212 Nomansman_scaled
0.21121841 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21916945 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21994883 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.22309067 Ror:Ror_37
0.22871456 Ror:Ror_12
0.23081102 Ror:Ror_11
0.23096365 Ror:Ror_49
0.23207512 Ror:Ror_29
0.23343599 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.23358647 Ror:Ror_17
0.23364499 Ror:Ror_83
0.23378809 Ror:Ror_20
0.23478008 Ror:Ror_25
0.23506048 Ror:Ror_55
0.23648381 Ror:Ror_52
0.23732089 Ror:Ror_10
0.23831566 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.23982992 Ror:Ror_45
0.24725911 Ror:Ror_44
0.24761574 Ror:Ror_56
0.25119274 Khatri:K-71





Distance to: Russian_Kursk:RussianKursk18
0.16380203 Kumyk
0.16512776 Turkish_Northwest
0.16861325 Balkar
0.17044709 Chechen
0.17045250 Turkish_Aydin
0.17057231 Karachay
0.17260491 Ingushian
0.17354382 Adygei
0.17633401 Azeri_Dagestan
0.17756261 Turkish_North
0.17819606 Turkish_Central
0.17840500 Turkish_Adana
0.18098475 Turkish_South
0.18125979 Turkish_Kayseri
0.18160524 North_Ossetian
0.18809573 Azeri_Turkey
0.19229899 Azeri
0.19305565 Ezid
0.19376754 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.19550439 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19636281 Iranian_Fars
0.19893908 Nomansman_scaled
0.19946091 Kurdish
0.20046612 Ror:Ror_37
0.20062024 Iranian_Seyyed
0.20187590 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20396080 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.20406916 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.20566993 Ror:Ror_12
0.20823279 Armenian
0.20847231 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20855331 Ror:Ror_83
0.20894578 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.20954751 Ror:Ror_29
0.20994008 Ror:Ror_11
0.21105300 Ror:Ror_49
0.21129211 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.21135366 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.21227996 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21247036 Assyrian
0.21258623 Ror:Ror_20
0.21389471 Ror:Ror_25
0.21433263 Ror:Ror_55
0.21468574 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.21506150 Ror:Ror_45
0.21535630 Ror:Ror_17
0.21596338 Ror:Ror_10
0.21612908 Ror:Ror_52
0.21800726 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.21806394 Iranian_Bandari
0.22261012 Ror:Ror_56
0.22903677 Ror:Ror_44
0.23731395 Khatri:K-71
0.24368884 Libyan:LIB9
0.24978722 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.25505517 Kabyle_scaled
0.25880385 Adammm_scaled
0.28474181 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.30014770 Moroccan_South:ERR12




Apparently it seems like although most(if not all south euros) are significatly to slightly closer to most euro berbers than pashtuns, they dont turn much closer though and are really far from both. THeyre all however closest to armenians and turks and specially south italians.


Its interesting to notice that the russians are not only closer to pashtuns than berbers significantly, theyre not even much closer to caucasians(still significantly closer to some) than to pashtuns. I wonder how close they be to pamiris then?

In general the Middle Eastern populations such as Armenians, Turks, Azeris, Persians, (maybe even Pashtuns) are much closer to S. Europeans than Berbers which makes the S. European-North African connection seems so insignificant and a pathetic thing to push (for whoever tries to push something like that).

[Nomansman]

In general the Middle Eastern populations such as Armenians, Turks, Azeris, Persians, (maybe even Pashtuns) are much closer to S. Europeans than Berbers which makes the S. European-North African connection seems so insignificant and a pathetic thing to push (for whoever tries to push something like that).

Pashtuns are really not much closer and are equally as close to SW euros and vice versa as avg berbers are(while the most euro leaning berbers are significantly closer).

But azeris, armenians and specially turks are a lot closer/significantly closer though. I assume its the shared admix from indo-europeans all the groups have(excluding berbers) which put them at such distance. Even most euro leaning indians are slightly closer to russians than most euro berbers are.

[Nomansman]

With canarias as well(+ maltese):


Distance to: Spanish_Canarias
0.12822110 Turkish_Adana
0.12884699 Turkish_Kayseri
0.12916364 Turkish_Northwest
0.12995245 Turkish_Central
0.13214751 Turkish_Aydin
0.13761508 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.14063315 Libyan:LIB9
0.14385011 Azeri_Turkey
0.14526987 Turkish_North
0.14531718 Kumyk
0.14549883 Armenian
0.14569370 Ezid
0.14579857 Azeri_Dagestan
0.14626743 Kabyle_scaled
0.14702394 Turkish_South
0.14757029 Azeri
0.14782707 Assyrian
0.14885941 Adammm_scaled
0.15093222 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.15146601 Adygei
0.15263968 Karachay
0.15270185 Kurdish
0.15491092 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.15496589 Ingushian
0.15505575 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.15536188 Balkar
0.15649176 Chechen
0.15740013 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.15873435 Iranian_Fars
0.16001054 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.16076875 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16109317 Iranian_Seyyed
0.16189223 North_Ossetian
0.16197295 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.17614139 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.18059177 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19018999 Iranian_Bandari
0.19596259 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.20314806 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.20387353 Nomansman_scaled
0.20444143 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.21335520 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21920437 Ror:Ror_37
0.22480321 Ror:Ror_12
0.22626010 Ror:Ror_49
0.22640525 Ror:Ror_11
0.22729886 Ror:Ror_17
0.22759083 Ror:Ror_29
0.22879464 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22899199 Ror:Ror_20
0.22917887 Ror:Ror_83
0.22955316 Ror:Ror_25
0.23019110 Ror:Ror_55
0.23134206 Ror:Ror_52
0.23372981 Ror:Ror_10
0.23505639 Ror:Ror_45
0.24110061 Ror:Ror_44
0.24300249 Khatri:K-71
0.24621649 Ror:Ror_56


Distance to: Maltese
0.08219657 Turkish_Kayseri
0.08477294 Turkish_Adana
0.08836634 Turkish_Central
0.08939162 Armenian
0.09172631 Assyrian
0.09888969 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.09918827 Turkish_Northwest
0.09994022 Azeri_Turkey
0.10056893 Turkish_Aydin
0.10111606 Ezid
0.10413963 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.10439923 Azeri
0.10579870 Kurdish
0.10601923 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.10822630 Azeri_Dagestan
0.11065871 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.11071780 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.11185585 Turkish_North
0.11354100 Kumyk
0.11443033 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.11616691 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.11691474 Turkish_South
0.11827047 Iranian_Fars
0.11840652 Adygei
0.12147809 Iranian_Seyyed
0.12256915 Karachay
0.12308352 Ingushian
0.12612625 Balkar
0.12678352 Chechen
0.12828211 Libyan:LIB9
0.13134537 North_Ossetian
0.13446042 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.13918544 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.15104664 Adammm_scaled
0.15164564 Kabyle_scaled
0.16124345 Iranian_Bandari
0.18315768 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.18449294 Nomansman_scaled
0.18605541 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.18711848 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.19765562 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20594111 Moroccan_South:ERR12
0.21460259 Ror:Ror_37
0.21881475 Ror:Ror_11
0.21983170 Ror:Ror_17
0.22000979 Ror:Ror_12
0.22089583 Ror:Ror_29
0.22127987 Ror:Ror_25
0.22146098 Ror:Ror_49
0.22241218 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.22264809 Ror:Ror_20
0.22268560 Ror:Ror_55
0.22355703 Ror:Ror_83
0.22522789 Ror:Ror_52
0.22648892 Ror:Ror_10
0.22938619 Khatri:K-71
0.22989678 Ror:Ror_45
0.23255478 Ror:Ror_44
0.23684181 Ror:Ror_56


Now the "euros" are a lot closer to most euro berbers and more further from afghans, but still not much closer to berbers than west asians(specially maltese) and are still pretty far from most euro berber

[Avicenna]

Pashtuns are really not much closer and are equally as close to SW euros and vice versa as avg berbers are(while the most euro leaning berbers are significantly closer).

But azeris, armenians and specially turks are a lot closer/significantly closer though. I assume its the shared admix from indo-europeans all the groups have(excluding berbers) which put them at such distance. Even most euro leaning indians are slightly closer to russians than most euro berbers are.

Can you do one for a central European group such as Austrian?

We are about roughly the same distance to sw euros than kabyles are. I find that so shocking.

Can you add tajik pamiris too?

[Nomansman]

Can you do one for a central European group such as Austrian?

We are about roughly the same distance to sw euros than kabyles are. I find that so shocking.

Well, the more southern euros are significantly closer to euro shifted berbers than us. But with euros like portugese, then theyre only slightly closer to almost being equally as close to berbers as to us. If the euro shifted berbers have shitton of euro and down to 6% SSA, then rest of their admix is 100% alien asf to europe.

Anyway, gonna do it with austrians, croatians,hungarians, bosnians etc

[Nassbean]

Well, the more southern euros are significantly closer to euro shifted berbers than us. But with euros like portugese, then theyre only slightly closer to almost being equally as close to berbers as to us. If the euro shifted berbers have shitton of euro and down to 6% SSA, then rest of their admix is 100% alien asf to europe.

Anyway, gonna do it with austrians, croatians,hungarians, bosnians etc

do you have your K36 similarity map ? here's mine so you can compare with you :

https://i.imgur.com/w8mvi62.png

[Nomansman]

Just for someone's request:


Distance to: German_East
0.15218223 Kumyk
0.15252736 Turkish_Northwest
0.15491624 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.15493497 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.15652819 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.15734240 Chechen
0.15762927 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.15860141 Turkish_Aydin
0.15887267 Balkar
0.15924182 Adygei
0.15933723 Ingushian
0.16002100 Karachay
0.16074370 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.16160781 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.16163246 Turkish_Adana
0.16183136 Turkish_Central
0.16233725 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.16281858 Azeri_Dagestan
0.16299388 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16447980 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.16535060 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.16677740 Turkish_North
0.16851801 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16943801 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16960283 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16963627 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.17065253 Turkish_South
0.17121770 North_Ossetian
0.17251873 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.17277062 Azeri_Turkey
0.17356517 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.17629446 Ezid
0.17672039 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17783289 Azeri
0.17965614 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18013498 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.18076121 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.18104529 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.18264937 Kurdish
0.18345019 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.18389802 Iranian_Fars
0.18476072 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18507856 Armenian
0.18708458 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.18899721 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18903500 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18960521 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.19058563 Assyrian
0.19095614 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.19190000 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.19424475 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19636361 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.19881993 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19983125 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19996821 Nomansman_scaled
0.20023117 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.20316396 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20653650 Ror:Ror_37
0.21182183 Ror:Ror_12
0.21201022 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21242728 Iranian_Bandari
0.21528411 Ror:Ror_11
0.21572578 Ror:Ror_29
0.21609824 Ror:Ror_49
0.21617754 Ror:Ror_83
0.21814536 Ror:Ror_20
0.21837446 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21979734 Ror:Ror_25
0.22044217 Ror:Ror_55
0.22061742 Ror:Ror_17
0.22177319 Ror:Ror_10
0.22244258 Ror:Ror_52
0.22276132 Ror:Ror_45
0.22650020 Libyan:LIB9
0.22935619 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.22964878 Ror:Ror_56
0.23520376 Ror:Ror_44
0.23673736 Kabyle_scaled
0.24061693 Adammm_scaled
0.24242587 Khatri:K-71
0.26689277 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.28468023 Moroccan_South:ERR12




Distance to: Croatian
0.13403931 Turkish_Northwest
0.13672654 Kumyk
0.13998637 Turkish_Aydin
0.14287245 Turkish_Adana
0.14303322 Turkish_Central
0.14385350 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14412663 Adygei
0.14425842 Balkar
0.14426621 Chechen
0.14486609 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.14499296 Karachay
0.14565790 Ingushian
0.14625660 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.14653846 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.14716682 Azeri_Dagestan
0.14887858 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.14895388 Turkish_North
0.15335734 Turkish_South
0.15406907 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15503686 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15611513 Azeri_Turkey
0.15630936 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.15652037 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.15684041 North_Ossetian
0.15757108 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.15856556 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.15958025 Ezid
0.16031924 Azeri
0.16221553 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16249021 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16277076 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16295838 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.16420114 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16524280 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16555152 Kurdish
0.16657048 Armenian
0.16681708 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16777946 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.16814259 Iranian_Fars
0.16919090 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16949681 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17166187 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17170510 Assyrian
0.17184236 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17231144 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17320160 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17376273 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.17654345 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.17800697 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.18359327 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18366939 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18569694 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18714504 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19052065 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19173121 Nomansman_scaled
0.19265303 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19378389 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20000062 Iranian_Bandari
0.20294154 Ror:Ror_37
0.20372672 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20815043 Ror:Ror_12
0.20871880 Libyan:LIB9
0.21086763 Ror:Ror_29
0.21097479 Ror:Ror_11
0.21189410 Ror:Ror_49
0.21293349 Ror:Ror_83
0.21362294 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.21382500 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21433047 Ror:Ror_20
0.21482256 Ror:Ror_25
0.21590160 Ror:Ror_17
0.21595967 Ror:Ror_55
0.21705095 Ror:Ror_10
0.21713811 Ror:Ror_52
0.21899624 Ror:Ror_45
0.22188476 Kabyle_scaled
0.22527523 Adammm_scaled
0.22584164 Ror:Ror_56
0.22907560 Ror:Ror_44
0.23520620 Khatri:K-71
0.25358236 Moroccan_South:ERR18





Distance to: Czech
0.14904163 Turkish_Northwest
0.15003809 Kumyk
0.15228033 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.15364707 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.15398786 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.15523278 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.15541817 Turkish_Aydin
0.15597059 Chechen
0.15714010 Balkar
0.15808600 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15810239 Adygei
0.15832370 Ingushian
0.15834165 Karachay
0.15927859 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15975285 Turkish_Central
0.15978780 Turkish_Adana
0.16002489 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.16105244 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.16133980 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16136863 Azeri_Dagestan
0.16153827 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.16399111 Turkish_North
0.16506863 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16545516 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16597757 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16624852 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16701385 Turkish_South
0.16917047 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16981519 North_Ossetian
0.17088076 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.17192368 Azeri_Turkey
0.17284365 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17495546 Ezid
0.17589799 Azeri
0.17661802 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17666875 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17813567 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18078294 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18097779 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.18127512 Kurdish
0.18210567 Iranian_Fars
0.18381172 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.18494087 Armenian
0.18627805 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18690974 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18735666 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.18805331 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18942206 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.18967014 Assyrian
0.19099087 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19205928 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.19592760 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19622250 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.19630373 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19735766 Nomansman_scaled
0.19915511 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19942504 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20365488 Ror:Ror_37
0.20846487 Ror:Ror_12
0.20889965 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21039639 Iranian_Bandari
0.21215734 Ror:Ror_29
0.21239969 Ror:Ror_11
0.21271942 Ror:Ror_49
0.21385083 Ror:Ror_83
0.21482753 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21509057 Ror:Ror_20
0.21659907 Ror:Ror_25
0.21780548 Ror:Ror_55
0.21808517 Ror:Ror_17
0.21853906 Ror:Ror_10
0.21854628 Ror:Ror_52
0.21962860 Ror:Ror_45
0.22357566 Libyan:LIB9
0.22692668 Ror:Ror_56
0.22760143 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.23144210 Ror:Ror_44
0.23529488 Kabyle_scaled
0.23883254 Adammm_scaled
0.23937574 Khatri:K-71
0.26564130 Moroccan_South:ERR18






Distance to: Austrian
0.13579890 Turkish_Northwest
0.13879978 Kumyk
0.14197406 Turkish_Aydin
0.14475019 Turkish_Adana
0.14492988 Turkish_Central
0.14567983 Chechen
0.14581650 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14649534 Adygei
0.14659080 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.14667646 Balkar
0.14710178 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.14729872 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.14738227 Ingushian
0.14741125 Karachay
0.14873864 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.14898052 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15108880 Turkish_North
0.15449302 Turkish_South
0.15494137 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15604919 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15688907 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.15766997 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.15808290 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.15822809 Azeri_Turkey
0.15902602 North_Ossetian
0.15907352 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16131714 Ezid
0.16216385 Azeri
0.16223980 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16271054 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16379977 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16531614 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.16581472 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16605360 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16718751 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.16724789 Kurdish
0.16860998 Armenian
0.16890423 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.16912524 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.17002339 Iranian_Fars
0.17172976 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.17242384 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17304577 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17365482 Assyrian
0.17406792 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17519081 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17569884 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.17621131 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18060041 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.18434996 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18454810 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18781955 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18872792 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19205023 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19277974 Nomansman_scaled
0.19287537 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19462362 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20171106 Iranian_Bandari
0.20291976 Ror:Ror_37
0.20437395 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20795497 Ror:Ror_12
0.21067328 Libyan:LIB9
0.21105598 Ror:Ror_11
0.21128707 Ror:Ror_29
0.21145980 Ror:Ror_49
0.21352690 Ror:Ror_83
0.21375256 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.21388495 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21445657 Ror:Ror_20
0.21547197 Ror:Ror_25
0.21630159 Ror:Ror_55
0.21657851 Ror:Ror_17
0.21729786 Ror:Ror_10
0.21736123 Ror:Ror_52
0.21931440 Ror:Ror_45
0.22322502 Kabyle_scaled
0.22623043 Ror:Ror_56
0.22657289 Adammm_scaled
0.22942592 Ror:Ror_44
0.23635263 Khatri:K-71
0.25405587 Moroccan_South:ERR18





Its interesting to see that the morroccans are even as close to the central europeans as steppe shifted indians are, although former probably looks million times more like euros than latter


Edit: ALso, can someone explain me why the smileys appear around the pashtun references? I really dont understand that

Double edit: Forgot to add pamiris and yagnobis. Its really interesting to see how central euros and possible central euros arent much further from yagnobis than most euro shifted west asians, despite their bigger amount of bmac compared to west asians. THeyre even MUCH closer to central euros than most euro shifted berbers are. But they kind of also look euro from time to time and have kept a lot of steppe in themselves.

[Nomansman]

do you have your K36 similarity map ? here's mine so you can compare with you :

https://i.imgur.com/w8mvi62.png

How do i do that?

ANd i assume youre definetly closer to euros than i am on that map. But i can try,

[Nassbean]

How do i do that?

ANd i assume youre definetly closer to euros than i am on that map. But i can try,

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

[Avicenna]

Just for someone's request:


Distance to: German_East
0.15218223 Kumyk
0.15252736 Turkish_Northwest
0.15491624 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.15493497 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.15652819 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.15734240 Chechen
0.15762927 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.15860141 Turkish_Aydin
0.15887267 Balkar
0.15924182 Adygei
0.15933723 Ingushian
0.16002100 Karachay
0.16074370 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.16160781 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.16163246 Turkish_Adana
0.16183136 Turkish_Central
0.16233725 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.16281858 Azeri_Dagestan
0.16299388 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16447980 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.16535060 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.16677740 Turkish_North
0.16851801 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16943801 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16960283 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16963627 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.17065253 Turkish_South
0.17121770 North_Ossetian
0.17251873 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.17277062 Azeri_Turkey
0.17356517 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.17629446 Ezid
0.17672039 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17783289 Azeri
0.17965614 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18013498 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.18076121 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.18104529 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.18264937 Kurdish
0.18345019 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.18389802 Iranian_Fars
0.18476072 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18507856 Armenian
0.18708458 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.18899721 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18903500 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18960521 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.19058563 Assyrian
0.19095614 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.19190000 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.19424475 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19636361 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.19881993 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19983125 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19996821 Nomansman_scaled
0.20023117 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.20316396 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20653650 Ror:Ror_37
0.21182183 Ror:Ror_12
0.21201022 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21242728 Iranian_Bandari
0.21528411 Ror:Ror_11
0.21572578 Ror:Ror_29
0.21609824 Ror:Ror_49
0.21617754 Ror:Ror_83
0.21814536 Ror:Ror_20
0.21837446 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21979734 Ror:Ror_25
0.22044217 Ror:Ror_55
0.22061742 Ror:Ror_17
0.22177319 Ror:Ror_10
0.22244258 Ror:Ror_52
0.22276132 Ror:Ror_45
0.22650020 Libyan:LIB9
0.22935619 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.22964878 Ror:Ror_56
0.23520376 Ror:Ror_44
0.23673736 Kabyle_scaled
0.24061693 Adammm_scaled
0.24242587 Khatri:K-71
0.26689277 Moroccan_South:ERR18
0.28468023 Moroccan_South:ERR12




Distance to: Croatian
0.13403931 Turkish_Northwest
0.13672654 Kumyk
0.13998637 Turkish_Aydin
0.14287245 Turkish_Adana
0.14303322 Turkish_Central
0.14385350 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14412663 Adygei
0.14425842 Balkar
0.14426621 Chechen
0.14486609 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.14499296 Karachay
0.14565790 Ingushian
0.14625660 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.14653846 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.14716682 Azeri_Dagestan
0.14887858 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.14895388 Turkish_North
0.15335734 Turkish_South
0.15406907 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15503686 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15611513 Azeri_Turkey
0.15630936 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.15652037 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.15684041 North_Ossetian
0.15757108 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.15856556 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.15958025 Ezid
0.16031924 Azeri
0.16221553 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16249021 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16277076 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16295838 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.16420114 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16524280 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16555152 Kurdish
0.16657048 Armenian
0.16681708 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.16777946 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.16814259 Iranian_Fars
0.16919090 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.16949681 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17166187 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17170510 Assyrian
0.17184236 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17231144 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17320160 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17376273 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.17654345 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.17800697 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.18359327 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18366939 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18569694 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18714504 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19052065 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19173121 Nomansman_scaled
0.19265303 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19378389 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20000062 Iranian_Bandari
0.20294154 Ror:Ror_37
0.20372672 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20815043 Ror:Ror_12
0.20871880 Libyan:LIB9
0.21086763 Ror:Ror_29
0.21097479 Ror:Ror_11
0.21189410 Ror:Ror_49
0.21293349 Ror:Ror_83
0.21362294 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.21382500 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21433047 Ror:Ror_20
0.21482256 Ror:Ror_25
0.21590160 Ror:Ror_17
0.21595967 Ror:Ror_55
0.21705095 Ror:Ror_10
0.21713811 Ror:Ror_52
0.21899624 Ror:Ror_45
0.22188476 Kabyle_scaled
0.22527523 Adammm_scaled
0.22584164 Ror:Ror_56
0.22907560 Ror:Ror_44
0.23520620 Khatri:K-71
0.25358236 Moroccan_South:ERR18





Distance to: Czech
0.14904163 Turkish_Northwest
0.15003809 Kumyk
0.15228033 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.15364707 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.15398786 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.15523278 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.15541817 Turkish_Aydin
0.15597059 Chechen
0.15714010 Balkar
0.15808600 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15810239 Adygei
0.15832370 Ingushian
0.15834165 Karachay
0.15927859 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15975285 Turkish_Central
0.15978780 Turkish_Adana
0.16002489 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.16105244 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.16133980 Turkish_Kayseri
0.16136863 Azeri_Dagestan
0.16153827 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.16399111 Turkish_North
0.16506863 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16545516 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16597757 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16624852 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16701385 Turkish_South
0.16917047 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16981519 North_Ossetian
0.17088076 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.17192368 Azeri_Turkey
0.17284365 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.17495546 Ezid
0.17589799 Azeri
0.17661802 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17666875 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17813567 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.18078294 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18097779 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.18127512 Kurdish
0.18210567 Iranian_Fars
0.18381172 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.18494087 Armenian
0.18627805 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18690974 Iranian_Seyyed
0.18735666 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.18805331 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18942206 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.18967014 Assyrian
0.19099087 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19205928 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.19592760 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19622250 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.19630373 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19735766 Nomansman_scaled
0.19915511 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.19942504 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20365488 Ror:Ror_37
0.20846487 Ror:Ror_12
0.20889965 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.21039639 Iranian_Bandari
0.21215734 Ror:Ror_29
0.21239969 Ror:Ror_11
0.21271942 Ror:Ror_49
0.21385083 Ror:Ror_83
0.21482753 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21509057 Ror:Ror_20
0.21659907 Ror:Ror_25
0.21780548 Ror:Ror_55
0.21808517 Ror:Ror_17
0.21853906 Ror:Ror_10
0.21854628 Ror:Ror_52
0.21962860 Ror:Ror_45
0.22357566 Libyan:LIB9
0.22692668 Ror:Ror_56
0.22760143 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.23144210 Ror:Ror_44
0.23529488 Kabyle_scaled
0.23883254 Adammm_scaled
0.23937574 Khatri:K-71
0.26564130 Moroccan_South:ERR18






Distance to: Austrian
0.13579890 Turkish_Northwest
0.13879978 Kumyk
0.14197406 Turkish_Aydin
0.14475019 Turkish_Adana
0.14492988 Turkish_Central
0.14567983 Chechen
0.14581650 Turkish_Kayseri
0.14649534 Adygei
0.14659080 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1110_tadjik_yag
0.14667646 Balkar
0.14710178 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1095_tadjik_yag
0.14729872 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ0197_tadjik_yag
0.14738227 Ingushian
0.14741125 Karachay
0.14873864 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1176_tadjik_yag
0.14898052 Azeri_Dagestan
0.15108880 Turkish_North
0.15449302 Turkish_South
0.15494137 Tajik_Rushan:tdj868_rushan
0.15604919 Tajik_Rushan:tdj521_rushan
0.15688907 Tajik_Rushan:tdj54_rushan
0.15766997 Tajik_Rushan:tdj508_rushan
0.15808290 Tajik_Rushan:tdj261_rushan
0.15822809 Azeri_Turkey
0.15902602 North_Ossetian
0.15907352 Tajik_Yagnobi:TJ1101_tadjik_yag
0.16131714 Ezid
0.16216385 Azeri
0.16223980 Tajik_Rushan:tdj12_rushan
0.16271054 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj305_shugnan
0.16379977 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj126_shugnan
0.16531614 Georgian_Laz:GEO19_georgian_laz
0.16581472 Iranian_Zoroastrian
0.16605360 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj979_shugnan
0.16718751 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj409_shugnan
0.16724789 Kurdish
0.16860998 Armenian
0.16890423 Tajik_Rushan:tdj277_rushan
0.16912524 Georgian_Laz:GEO28_georgian_laz
0.17002339 Iranian_Fars
0.17172976 Georgian_Laz:GEO10_georgian_laz
0.17242384 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj258_ishkashim
0.17304577 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj262_shugnan
0.17365482 Assyrian
0.17406792 Georgian_Laz:GEO1_georgian_laz
0.17519081 Iranian_Seyyed
0.17569884 Armenian_Hemsheni
0.17621131 Tajik_Shugnan:tdj275_shugnan
0.18060041 Georgian_Laz:GEO7_georgian_laz
0.18434996 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj269_ishkashim
0.18454810 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj255_ishkashim
0.18781955 Iranian_Mazandarani
0.18872792 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj252_ishkashim
0.19205023 Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af
0.19277974 Nomansman_scaled
0.19287537 Tajik_Ishkashim:tdj291_ishkashim
0.19462362 Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af
0.20171106 Iranian_Bandari
0.20291976 Ror:Ror_37
0.20437395 Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af
0.20795497 Ror:Ror_12
0.21067328 Libyan:LIB9
0.21105598 Ror:Ror_11
0.21128707 Ror:Ror_29
0.21145980 Ror:Ror_49
0.21352690 Ror:Ror_83
0.21375256 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.21388495 Jatt_Pathak:Jatt_Jt2
0.21445657 Ror:Ror_20
0.21547197 Ror:Ror_25
0.21630159 Ror:Ror_55
0.21657851 Ror:Ror_17
0.21729786 Ror:Ror_10
0.21736123 Ror:Ror_52
0.21931440 Ror:Ror_45
0.22322502 Kabyle_scaled
0.22623043 Ror:Ror_56
0.22657289 Adammm_scaled
0.22942592 Ror:Ror_44
0.23635263 Khatri:K-71
0.25405587 Moroccan_South:ERR18





Its interesting to see that the morroccans are even as close to the central europeans as steppe shifted indians are, although former probably looks million times more like euros than latter


Edit: ALso, can someone explain me why the smileys appear around the pashtun references? I really dont understand that

Double edit: Forgot to add pamiris and yagnobis. Its really interesting to see how central euros and possible central euros arent much further from yagnobis than most euro shifted west asians, despite their bigger amount of bmac compared to west asians. THeyre even MUCH closer to central euros than most euro shifted berbers are. But they kind of also look euro from time to time and have kept a lot of steppe in themselves.
Thanks for that man.

For the Pashtuns could you add surbakhun and rukha and hrp070 whilst taking away pashtun 2_20 since Im assuming he has higher east Asian which is pulling him away

[Nomansman]

https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

94570945719457294573
94574

I can already imagine this calc not be for people like me, since its for people with high euro ancestry and not for different people like me.

Even some of the results on the map dont make too much sense to me

But the results are interesting anyway. Interesting im closer to south americans than to any north africans

[Nassbean]

94570945719457294573
94574

I can already imagine this calc not be for people like me, since its for people with high euro ancestry and not for different people like me.

Even some of the results on the map dont make too much sense to me

But the results are interesting anyway. Interesting im closer to south americans than to any north africans

All of this start to be confusing honestly I score 51 with malteses for example while you score 18 but according to what you posted you're genetically as close to them than I am how is that even possible ?? maybe it's a question of having ancestry from a region vs shared components idk

[Avicenna]

All of this start to be confusing honestly I score 51 with maltese for example but according to what you posted you're genetically as close to them than I am how is that even possible ?? maybe it's a question of having ancestry from a region vs shared components idk

Gedmatch calculators are quite outdated and use different samples compared to g25 which is based on ancient samples. G25 is far more precise and accurate I'm assuming.

[Nomansman]

All of this start to be confusing honestly I score 51 with maltese for example but according to what you posted you're genetically as close to them than I am how is that even possible ?? maybe it's a question of having ancestry from a region vs shared components idk

It definetly is. You have shittonn of admix that you share with maltese people, that i dont. Also, im not sure if this calc is good for me, since i have lots of bmac. Im even being pulled significantly close to bengalis, although im probably as close to south euros and georgians + armenians(maybe slightl closer to former) as to bengalis.

But even then, it makes sense for you to be closer to euros than me. But i gueess eurogenes is kind of just outdated.

ANyway just for fun, comparison with most "euro shifted" pamiri:

945759457694577

Its interesting to see how close he even is to south americans than to north africans due to a lot of "euro" in him

[Nassbean]

Gedmatch calculators are quite outdated and use different samples compared to g25 which is based on ancient samples. G25 is far more precise and accurate I'm assuming.

It is indeed but here the difference is big and make sense (even in terms of phenotypes) that's just incredible or maybe something is lacking when it comes to the dna of NAs

[Nomansman]

These posts are out of topics as well, but for someone's request:


Distance to: Albanian
0.32036230 Hazara
0.36568402 Eritrean
0.37487104 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.38160325 Ethiopian_Afar
0.38529047 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.38549793 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.41488322 Kirghiz
0.43044315 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.43132829 Malayan
0.43733472 Paniya
0.44944156 Altaian
0.45389187 Somali
0.45718867 Onge
0.46419136 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.46464606 Bhumij
0.47043900 Somali_Kenya
0.48609771 Mongolian
0.48612944 Bonda
0.53876522 Burmese
0.56045877 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.56253325 Malay
0.56647635 Ethiopian_Ari
0.57121256 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.57926646 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57927003 Indonesian_Bali
0.58208694 Eskimo
0.58351620 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58974853 Indonesian_Java
0.59469544 Hawaiian
0.59940420 Amerindian_North
0.60118434 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60468834 Japanese
0.61254362 Korean
0.62848075 Ami
0.67120936 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.67153145 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.71361777 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.72863883 Bantu_Kenya
0.73352339 Gambian
0.74709162 Bantu_S.W.
0.75388788 Kongo
0.75732841 Bantu_S.E.
0.76194621 Esan_Nigeria
0.80394664 Papuan




Distance to: Austrian
0.32157904 Hazara
0.39213729 Eritrean
0.40098940 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.40621001 Ethiopian_Afar
0.41081120 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.41094250 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.41208410 Kirghiz
0.43668840 Malayan
0.44187736 Paniya
0.44549582 Altaian
0.45238673 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.46070222 Onge
0.46748697 Bhumij
0.47458732 Somali
0.48383549 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.48389021 Mongolian
0.48924604 Bonda
0.49070891 Somali_Kenya
0.54061763 Burmese
0.56485431 Malay
0.57152267 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57506335 Eskimo
0.57570883 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.57610101 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58137482 Ethiopian_Ari
0.58218119 Indonesian_Bali
0.58618717 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.59002786 Amerindian_North
0.59229984 Indonesian_Java
0.59726687 Hawaiian
0.60293124 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60564922 Japanese
0.61318546 Korean
0.63067402 Ami
0.68336774 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.68365054 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.72488355 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.73925154 Bantu_Kenya
0.74435701 Gambian
0.75766990 Bantu_S.W.
0.76420137 Kongo
0.76758184 Bantu_S.E.
0.77210308 Esan_Nigeria
0.80911177 Papuan

[Nomansman]

More:


Distance to: Belarusian
0.32705956 Hazara
0.41332336 Eritrean
0.41334236 Kirghiz
0.42160615 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.42600807 Ethiopian_Afar
0.43077245 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.43111982 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.44080499 Malayan
0.44480884 Paniya
0.44563023 Altaian
0.46231381 Onge
0.46833816 Bhumij
0.46932317 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.48465108 Mongolian
0.49007608 Bonda
0.49037803 Somali
0.49911874 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.50600588 Somali_Kenya
0.54130143 Burmese
0.56517822 Malay
0.56673705 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57076476 Eskimo
0.57155113 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58254105 Indonesian_Bali
0.58485134 Amerindian_North
0.58666920 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.59195982 Ethiopian_Ari
0.59234448 Indonesian_Java
0.59699597 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.59805523 Hawaiian
0.60300952 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60622600 Japanese
0.61324359 Korean
0.63073042 Ami
0.69104595 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.69139939 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.73179357 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.74630396 Bantu_Kenya
0.75180596 Gambian
0.76512804 Bantu_S.W.
0.77135094 Kongo
0.77481144 Bantu_S.E.
0.77889272 Esan_Nigeria
0.81010464 Papuan



Distance to: Bosnian
0.31955806 Hazara
0.38843883 Eritrean
0.39726490 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.40296891 Ethiopian_Afar
0.40737668 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.40743346 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.41140748 Kirghiz
0.43392324 Malayan
0.43915515 Paniya
0.44515602 Altaian
0.44965426 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.45835904 Onge
0.46482768 Bhumij
0.47223680 Somali
0.48181612 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.48342903 Mongolian
0.48665847 Bonda
0.48844854 Somali_Kenya
0.53877919 Burmese
0.56271366 Malay
0.57056548 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57408131 Eskimo
0.57460234 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.57524713 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.57975563 Indonesian_Bali
0.58018588 Ethiopian_Ari
0.58515777 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.58907885 Amerindian_North
0.58987173 Indonesian_Java
0.59534583 Hawaiian
0.60120147 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60463163 Japanese
0.61213811 Korean
0.62873174 Ami
0.68297108 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.68306953 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.72447279 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.73861452 Bantu_Kenya
0.74365164 Gambian
0.75717580 Bantu_S.W.
0.76364022 Kongo
0.76727020 Bantu_S.E.
0.77143269 Esan_Nigeria
0.80732983 Papuan

[Nomansman]

More:

Distance to: Sardinian
0.37422989 Hazara
0.38319687 Eritrean
0.39277043 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.39989050 Ethiopian_Afar
0.40289748 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.40337197 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.44881290 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.45840140 Kirghiz
0.47091145 Somali
0.47403961 Malayan
0.48025158 Paniya
0.48249149 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.48730078 Somali_Kenya
0.49203061 Altaian
0.49679774 Onge
0.50670642 Bhumij
0.52464361 Mongolian
0.52543896 Bonda
0.57511254 Burmese
0.57949901 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.58624349 Ethiopian_Ari
0.59029826 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.59712019 Malay
0.61286692 Indonesian_Bali
0.62309120 Indonesian_Java
0.62339947 Eskimo_Naukan
0.62592577 Eskimo
0.62716661 Hawaiian
0.62751988 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.63398562 Kinh_Vietnam
0.63738618 Japanese
0.64258915 Amerindian_North
0.64523784 Korean
0.66003864 Ami
0.68980294 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.69041759 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.73212434 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.74639137 Bantu_Kenya
0.74960720 Gambian
0.76394706 Bantu_S.W.
0.77086491 Kongo
0.77464587 Bantu_S.E.
0.77866224 Esan_Nigeria
0.82894999 Papua



Distance to: English_Cornwall
0.33223250 Hazara
0.40033858 Eritrean
0.40914180 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.41366871 Ethiopian_Afar
0.41846224 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.41881408 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.42129722 Kirghiz
0.44405396 Malayan
0.44901567 Paniya
0.45424326 Altaian
0.45930003 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.46805984 Onge
0.47432782 Bhumij
0.48090317 Somali
0.48993415 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.49268858 Mongolian
0.49603202 Bonda
0.49685760 Somali_Kenya
0.54856117 Burmese
0.57184335 Malay
0.57828981 Eskimo_Naukan
0.58075685 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.58185196 Eskimo
0.58293629 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58664509 Ethiopian_Ari
0.58895512 Indonesian_Bali
0.59114025 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.59505919 Amerindian_North
0.59900217 Indonesian_Java
0.60457416 Hawaiian
0.61025186 Kinh_Vietnam
0.61403293 Japanese
0.62149415 Korean
0.63796855 Ami
0.68713388 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.68751070 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.72837882 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.74298277 Bantu_Kenya
0.74784335 Gambian
0.76116579 Bantu_S.W.
0.76756416 Kongo
0.77112889 Bantu_S.E.
0.77543745 Esan_Nigeria
0.81267198 Papuan

[Nomansman]

More:



Distance to: Spanish_Aragon
0.33547326 Hazara
0.37605881 Eritrean
0.38536252 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.39098533 Ethiopian_Afar
0.39538064 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.39543299 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.42467698 Kirghiz
0.43916074 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.44260508 Malayan
0.44821238 Paniya
0.45867990 Altaian
0.46138966 Somali
0.46624581 Onge
0.47154283 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.47432594 Bhumij
0.47783699 Somali_Kenya
0.49486194 Mongolian
0.49506333 Bonda
0.54773450 Burmese
0.56655669 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.57067955 Malay
0.57293648 Ethiopian_Ari
0.57723741 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.58734955 Eskimo_Naukan
0.58735391 Indonesian_Bali
0.59046839 Eskimo
0.59169910 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.59762553 Indonesian_Java
0.60262691 Hawaiian
0.60536199 Amerindian_North
0.60895921 Kinh_Vietnam
0.61290117 Japanese
0.62068092 Korean
0.63627113 Ami
0.67636514 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.67641437 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.71839611 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.73349548 Bantu_Kenya
0.73749721 Gambian
0.75140396 Bantu_S.W.
0.75814779 Kongo
0.76174278 Bantu_S.E.
0.76609256 Esan_Nigeria
0.81211279 Papuan




Distance to: Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.32773236 Hazara
0.38361639 Eritrean
0.39273713 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.39849375 Ethiopian_Afar
0.40287766 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.40294803 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.41994498 Kirghiz
0.43942513 Malayan
0.44508649 Paniya
0.44640670 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.45382700 Altaian
0.46558815 Onge
0.46897056 Somali
0.47197158 Bhumij
0.47886364 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.48541537 Somali_Kenya
0.49146745 Mongolian
0.49388422 Bonda
0.54641072 Burmese
0.57063936 Malay
0.57336152 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.57943856 Ethiopian_Ari
0.58130109 Eskimo_Naukan
0.58400258 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.58452881 Eskimo
0.58596384 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58769124 Indonesian_Bali
0.59778852 Amerindian_North
0.59792647 Indonesian_Java
0.60313650 Hawaiian
0.60882818 Kinh_Vietnam
0.61199950 Japanese
0.61965507 Korean
0.63664101 Ami
0.68279701 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.68280057 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.72462461 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.73941316 Bantu_Kenya
0.74391547 Gambian
0.75755212 Bantu_S.W.
0.76416377 Kongo
0.76775896 Bantu_S.E.
0.77207886 Esan_Nigeria
0.81164340 Papuan

[Nomansman]

More:

Distance to: Belgian
0.32504341 Hazara
0.38972102 Eritrean
0.39864907 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.40366686 Ethiopian_Afar
0.40833132 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.40853981 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.41569110 Kirghiz
0.43783502 Malayan
0.44313600 Paniya
0.44930401 Altaian
0.45015367 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.46199103 Onge
0.46877876 Bhumij
0.47229555 Somali
0.48152922 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.48726586 Mongolian
0.48844707 Somali_Kenya
0.49038765 Bonda
0.54235312 Burmese
0.56614305 Malay
0.57375617 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.57530437 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57875224 Eskimo
0.57961548 Ethiopian_Ari
0.57989246 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58327820 Indonesian_Bali
0.58423086 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.59290104 Amerindian_North
0.59344791 Indonesian_Java
0.59870251 Hawaiian
0.60435337 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60792675 Japanese
0.61549014 Korean
0.63220899 Ami
0.68162500 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.68197852 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.72332581 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.73831481 Bantu_Kenya
0.74319961 Gambian
0.75650741 Bantu_S.W.
0.76315001 Kongo
0.76640893 Bantu_S.E.
0.77112692 Esan_Nigeria
0.80906158 Papuan



Distance to: Russian_Smolensk
0.32557071 Hazara
0.41225184 Kirghiz
0.41262840 Eritrean
0.42095939 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.42542679 Ethiopian_Afar
0.43013804 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.43045581 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.43958826 Malayan
0.44342769 Paniya
0.44485910 Altaian
0.46130843 Onge
0.46720985 Bhumij
0.46910172 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.48367709 Mongolian
0.48891285 Bonda
0.49027475 Somali
0.49904103 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.50600294 Somali_Kenya
0.54030172 Burmese
0.56432197 Malay
0.56655852 Eskimo_Naukan
0.57047762 Eskimo
0.57126140 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.58173321 Indonesian_Bali
0.58483096 Amerindian_North
0.58709751 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.59150624 Indonesian_Java
0.59249523 Ethiopian_Ari
0.59733576 Hawaiian
0.59745327 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.60210731 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60511743 Japanese
0.61221446 Korean
0.62991662 Ami
0.69199128 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.69231672 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.73296605 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.74778139 Bantu_Kenya
0.75351672 Gambian
0.76677262 Bantu_S.W.
0.77310869 Kongo
0.77640288 Bantu_S.E.
0.78075847 Esan_Nigeria
0.80937062 Papuan




Distance to: Spanish_Andalucia
0.33142612 Hazara
0.36174895 Eritrean
0.37112197 Ethiopian_Tigray
0.37695790 Ethiopian_Afar
0.38119665 Ethiopian_Amhara
0.38127083 Ethiopian_Agaw
0.42173298 Kirghiz
0.42532857 Ethiopian_Oromo
0.43827364 Malayan
0.44398395 Paniya
0.44766652 Somali
0.45605360 Altaian
0.45794380 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.46081717 Onge
0.46420909 Somali_Kenya
0.47041095 Bhumij
0.49136841 Bonda
0.49207286 Mongolian
0.54428321 Burmese
0.55362413 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator
0.56007238 Ethiopian_Ari
0.56437794 Ethiopian_Ari_blacksmith
0.56716082 Malay
0.58383821 Indonesian_Bali
0.58491654 Eskimo_Naukan
0.58808722 Eskimo
0.58922432 Eskimo_Chaplin
0.59428489 Indonesian_Java
0.59894799 Hawaiian
0.60311231 Amerindian_North
0.60584029 Kinh_Vietnam
0.60994560 Japanese
0.61769764 Korean
0.63333126 Ami
0.66386873 Ethiopian_Mursi
0.66394765 Ethiopian_Gumuz
0.70610448 Ethiopian_Anuak
0.72154122 Bantu_Kenya
0.72575927 Gambian
0.73971406 Bantu_S.W.
0.74655784 Kongo
0.75013011 Bantu_S.E.
0.75457889 Esan_Nigeria
0.80499601 Papuan




Interesting to see how all of them are furthest from papuans

[Nomansman]

Also, although i did try to check the distances of most euros to both afghans and berbers, i havent tried it with sardinians yet. Here are some results:


Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.17119078 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18089656 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18434570 Libyan:LIB9
0.19071774 Kabyle_scaled
0.25074709 HRP0370_scaled
0.25973684 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01066
0.17829272 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18971730 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19592112 Libyan:LIB9
0.19639575 Kabyle_scaled
0.26168203 HRP0370_scaled
0.27183054 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.16969437 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18190912 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18821815 Kabyle_scaled
0.18938440 Libyan:LIB9
0.26060801 HRP0370_scaled
0.27114488 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.17394670 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18485504 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19003335 Libyan:LIB9
0.19254526 Kabyle_scaled
0.26006232 HRP0370_scaled
0.26954789 Nomansman_scaled




Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.17501170 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18635664 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19062032 Libyan:LIB9
0.19538050 Kabyle_scaled
0.25114246 HRP0370_scaled
0.25978609 Nomansman_scaled





Still really far to morroccans, but now much closer to morroccans compared to pashtuns.

[Nomansman]

Vice versa:


Distance to: HRP0370_scaled
0.25074709 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.25114246 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.26006232 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.26060801 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.26168203 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18089656 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.18190912 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.18485504 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.18635664 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.18971730 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.18434570 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.18938440 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.19003335 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.19062032 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.19592112 Sardinian:HGDP01066




Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.18821815 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.19071774 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.19254526 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.19538050 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.19639575 Sardinian:HGDP01066




Distance to: Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.16969437 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.17119078 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.17394670 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.17501170 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.17829272 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.25973684 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.25978609 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.26954789 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.27114488 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.27183054 Sardinian:HGDP01066



These are the only euros theyre much closer to(who arent partly north african, i assume) compared to pashtuns

[Avicenna]

Also, although i did try to check the distances of most euros to both afghans and berbers, i havent tried it with sardinians yet. Here are some results:


Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.17119078 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18089656 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18434570 Libyan:LIB9
0.19071774 Kabyle_scaled
0.25074709 HRP0370_scaled
0.25973684 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01066
0.17829272 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18971730 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19592112 Libyan:LIB9
0.19639575 Kabyle_scaled
0.26168203 HRP0370_scaled
0.27183054 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.16969437 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18190912 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18821815 Kabyle_scaled
0.18938440 Libyan:LIB9
0.26060801 HRP0370_scaled
0.27114488 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.17394670 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18485504 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19003335 Libyan:LIB9
0.19254526 Kabyle_scaled
0.26006232 HRP0370_scaled
0.26954789 Nomansman_scaled




Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.17501170 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18635664 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19062032 Libyan:LIB9
0.19538050 Kabyle_scaled
0.25114246 HRP0370_scaled
0.25978609 Nomansman_scaled





Still really far to morroccans, but now much closer to morroccans compared to pashtuns.

Yeah Sardinians are quite distant to us. What I find shocking is euros are closer to onge and paniya than any African or east Asian population.

[Avicenna]

Western eurasians are really close to each other seeing this tbh.

[Nomansman]

Western eurasians are really close to each other seeing this tbh.

Yeah. Its interesting though these euros are as close to onge and paniyas as to horners. Maybe the former are partly caucasiod as well?

[Grace O'Malley]

Also, although i did try to check the distances of most euros to both afghans and berbers, i havent tried it with sardinians yet. Here are some results:


Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.17119078 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18089656 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18434570 Libyan:LIB9
0.19071774 Kabyle_scaled
0.25074709 HRP0370_scaled
0.25973684 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01066
0.17829272 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18971730 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19592112 Libyan:LIB9
0.19639575 Kabyle_scaled
0.26168203 HRP0370_scaled
0.27183054 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.16969437 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18190912 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18821815 Kabyle_scaled
0.18938440 Libyan:LIB9
0.26060801 HRP0370_scaled
0.27114488 Nomansman_scaled



Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.17394670 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18485504 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19003335 Libyan:LIB9
0.19254526 Kabyle_scaled
0.26006232 HRP0370_scaled
0.26954789 Nomansman_scaled




Distance to: Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.17501170 Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.18635664 Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.19062032 Libyan:LIB9
0.19538050 Kabyle_scaled
0.25114246 HRP0370_scaled
0.25978609 Nomansman_scaled





Still really far to morroccans, but now much closer to morroccans compared to pashtuns.

Just looking at Irish distances (because that's what I am :) ) Irish are closer to Pashtuns than they are to the nearest North African population which is Moroccan_North.

Ireland some closest pops to show how close some Euros are

Distance to: Irish
0.00683194 Scottish
0.00929077 Orcadian
0.01122034 English
0.01185730 Welsh
0.01334057 English_Cornwall
0.01390465 Shetlandic
0.01589090 Dutch
0.01658923 Icelandic
0.01669854 French_Brittany
0.01818246 Norwegian
0.02700691 Swedish
0.02762477 German
0.03076114 Belgian

Distance to: Irish
0.20874989 Parsi_India
0.21376518 Samaritan
0.21462453 Iranian_Bandari
0.21645810 Jatt_Pathak
0.21765265 Ror
0.22108113 Uthmankhel
0.22180025 BedouinA
0.22242301 Tarkalani
0.22475115 Kho_Singanali
0.22515430 Turkmen
0.22677412 Kalash
0.22753952 Yusufzai
0.22874681 Pashtun
0.23361008 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23373077 Balochi
0.23619098 Makrani
0.23674973 Brahui
0.23837471 Kamboj
0.24161994 Mari
0.24177113 Moroccan_North

[Avicenna]

Just looking at Irish distances (because that's what I am :) ) Irish are closer to Pashtuns than they are to the nearest North African population which is Moroccan_North.

Ireland some closest pops to show how close some Euros are

Distance to: Irish
0.00683194 Scottish
0.00929077 Orcadian
0.01122034 English
0.01185730 Welsh
0.01334057 English_Cornwall
0.01390465 Shetlandic
0.01589090 Dutch
0.01658923 Icelandic
0.01669854 French_Brittany
0.01818246 Norwegian
0.02700691 Swedish
0.02762477 German
0.03076114 Belgian

Distance to: Irish
0.20874989 Parsi_India
0.21376518 Samaritan
0.21462453 Iranian_Bandari
0.21645810 Jatt_Pathak
0.21765265 Ror
0.22108113 Uthmankhel
0.22180025 BedouinA
0.22242301 Tarkalani
0.22475115 Kho_Singanali
0.22515430 Turkmen
0.22677412 Kalash
0.22753952 Yusufzai
0.22874681 Pashtun
0.23361008 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23373077 Balochi
0.23619098 Makrani
0.23674973 Brahui
0.23837471 Kamboj
0.24161994 Mari
0.24177113 Moroccan_North

It would be even closer if you used Afghan Pashtuns and not Pakistani Pashtuns ( the pashtun sample contains some outliers). It would be after Iranian bandari imo.

[Avicenna]

Just looking at Irish distances (because that's what I am :) ) Irish are closer to Pashtuns than they are to the nearest North African population which is Moroccan_North.

Ireland some closest pops to show how close some Euros are

Distance to: Irish
0.00683194 Scottish
0.00929077 Orcadian
0.01122034 English
0.01185730 Welsh
0.01334057 English_Cornwall
0.01390465 Shetlandic
0.01589090 Dutch
0.01658923 Icelandic
0.01669854 French_Brittany
0.01818246 Norwegian
0.02700691 Swedish
0.02762477 German
0.03076114 Belgian

Distance to: Irish
0.20874989 Parsi_India
0.21376518 Samaritan
0.21462453 Iranian_Bandari
0.21645810 Jatt_Pathak
0.21765265 Ror
0.22108113 Uthmankhel
0.22180025 BedouinA
0.22242301 Tarkalani
0.22475115 Kho_Singanali
0.22515430 Turkmen
0.22677412 Kalash
0.22753952 Yusufzai
0.22874681 Pashtun
0.23361008 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23373077 Balochi
0.23619098 Makrani
0.23674973 Brahui
0.23837471 Kamboj
0.24161994 Mari
0.24177113 Moroccan_North

How are British islanders plus Northern euros so damn close to each other?? They are probably closer than individuals from within the same ethnic groups from another region!

[Grace O'Malley]

How are British islanders plus Northern euros so damn close to each other?? They are probably closer than individuals from within the same ethnic groups from another region!

Yes they are all extremely close. Most probably a similar base but also constant interaction over the years.

[Adamastor]

Vice versa:


Distance to: HRP0370_scaled
0.25074709 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.25114246 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.26006232 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.26060801 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.26168203 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Moroccan_North:MOJ2
0.18089656 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.18190912 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.18485504 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.18635664 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.18971730 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Libyan:LIB9
0.18434570 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.18938440 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.19003335 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.19062032 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.19592112 Sardinian:HGDP01066




Distance to: Kabyle_scaled
0.18821815 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.19071774 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.19254526 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.19538050 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.19639575 Sardinian:HGDP01066




Distance to: Moroccan_North:MNA3
0.16969437 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.17119078 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.17394670 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.17501170 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.17829272 Sardinian:HGDP01066



Distance to: Nomansman_scaled
0.25973684 Sardinian:HGDP00665
0.25978609 Sardinian:HGDP01078
0.26954789 Sardinian:HGDP01075
0.27114488 Sardinian:HGDP01073
0.27183054 Sardinian:HGDP01066



These are the only euros theyre much closer to(who arent partly north african, i assume) compared to pashtuns

It happens because most of the Euro admixture North Africans have is Sardinian-like. Neolithic Iberians who expanded to North Africa were WHG-rich Sardinians, not modern Iberians with near-half Bell Beaker ancestry like modern Iberians.

On the other hand, ANA part of Iberomaurusian is a type of ancestry far removed from anything non-African even if it's not black African admixture, it's more basal than Basal Eurasian even. That's why North Africans are distant from almost anyone in West Eurasia even having tons of European and Middle Eastern components. They are quite unique genetically.

[Nomansman]

How are British islanders plus Northern euros so damn close to each other?? They are probably closer than individuals from within the same ethnic groups from another region!

WHat suprises me a bit mmore is how close she is to scandis like swedes. The distance between her and that swede is smaller than the distance between me and the closest pak pashtun + other kandahari pashtuns(if kandaharis arent slightly closer). Seems like afghans have a much bigger diversity compared to west euros(dont even have to include turkics or hazaras).

Also, its kind of odd how close she is to the parsi sample compared to all the other samples(bandaris are less aasi shifted than parsis, yet theyre closer significantly). I doubt afg pashtuns would be much closer or even slighly closer to the irish than jatts tbh.

[Avicenna]

WHat suprises me a bit mmore is how close she is to scandis like swedes. The distance between her and that swede is smaller than the distance between me and the closest pak pashtun + other kandahari pashtuns(if kandaharis arent slightly closer). Seems like afghans have a much bigger diversity compared to west euros(dont even have to include turkics or hazaras).

Also, its kind of odd how close she is to the parsi sample compared to all the other samples(bandaris are less aasi shifted than parsis, yet theyre closer significantly). I doubt afg pashtuns would be much closer or even slighly closer to the irish than jatts tbh.

I only said since afg Pashtuns are closer to all euros than rors are

[Grace O'Malley]

WHat suprises me a bit mmore is how close she is to scandis like swedes. The distance between her and that swede is smaller than the distance between me and the closest pak pashtun + other kandahari pashtuns(if kandaharis arent slightly closer). Seems like afghans have a much bigger diversity compared to west euros(dont even have to include turkics or hazaras).

Also, its kind of odd how close she is to the parsi sample compared to all the other samples(bandaris are less aasi shifted than parsis, yet theyre closer significantly). I doubt afg pashtuns would be much closer or even slighly closer to the irish than jatts tbh.

That was for Irish not for me. My closest pops are as follows but I'm a bit more distant than the Irish average which makes sense because averages will even out. What is interesting is that as an individual I'm closer to some non-British populations than British ones.

This is mine.
Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02659290 Swedish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.04070340 Belgian
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04754192 Austrian

As to what you said about countries look at France? French_Brittany is closer to other populations than it is to other French regions. It's not surprising though that Brittany is closer to the Welsh and Cornwall because many Britons escaped to Brittany to get away from the Anglo-Saxon incursions and also raids by the Irish.

Look at the distance between Brittany and France_South?

Distance to: French_Brittany
0.00968487 Welsh
0.01171291 English_Cornwall
0.01190820 English
0.01545787 Scottish
0.01669854 Irish
0.01671294 Belgian
0.01674995 Orcadian
0.01924137 Dutch
0.02067245 German
0.02109097 French_Nord
0.02292042 Shetlandic
0.02380667 French_Paris
0.02575809 French_Alsace
0.02701326 Norwegian
0.02776955 Icelandic
0.02785778 Swiss_German
0.03394635 Austrian
0.03399582 Swedish
0.03466437 French_Occitanie
0.03926504 French_Auvergne
0.04003233 German_East
0.04229731 Swiss_French
0.04450146 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.04542314 Hungarian
0.04618004 Czech
0.04816123 French_Provence
0.05116830 Croatian
0.05120046 Slovenian
0.05186044 Spanish_Penedes
0.05276965 Spanish_Barcelones
0.05390894 Spanish_Girona
0.05418000 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.05530235 Spanish_Lleida
0.05554120 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.05566872 French_South

[Grace O'Malley]

WHat suprises me a bit mmore is how close she is to scandis like swedes. The distance between her and that swede is smaller than the distance between me and the closest pak pashtun + other kandahari pashtuns(if kandaharis arent slightly closer). Seems like afghans have a much bigger diversity compared to west euros(dont even have to include turkics or hazaras).

Also, its kind of odd how close she is to the parsi sample compared to all the other samples(bandaris are less aasi shifted than parsis, yet theyre closer significantly). I doubt afg pashtuns would be much closer or even slighly closer to the irish than jatts tbh.

There is most likely diversity with Afghans because of not mixing. When populations mix they will even out distances. With places like Ireland, Britain, Scandinavians they have had a long history of interaction because of sea travel and also Britain colonised Ireland. It's an example of how the sea isn't a genetic boundary.

Here's my distances to Pashtuns.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.21061473 Parsi_Pakistan
0.21130871 Iraqi_Jew
0.21354289 Parsi_India
0.21392154 Palestinian
0.21887245 Samaritan
0.21985284 Jatt_Pathak
0.21992963 Iranian_Bandari
0.22085643 Ror
0.22484067 Uthmankhel
0.22604491 Tarkalani
0.22687115 BedouinA
0.22771939 Kho_Singanali
0.22869876 Turkmen
0.23032189 Kalash
0.23130873 Yusufzai
0.23269611 Pashtun
0.23732209 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23835613 Balochi
0.24107341 Makrani
0.24132930 Brahui
0.24195387 Mari
0.24223780 Kamboj
0.24739377 Punjabi_Jatt
0.24860019 Moroccan_North

Also something interesting is that I'm closer to Ukrainians before any Spanish region. So even Western Europeans aren't necessarily the closest to each other.

0.07212042 Ukrainian
0.07380695 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.07514324 Montenegrin
0.07516348 Spanish_Penedes
0.07608760 Spanish_Barcelones
0.07645015 Russian_Orel
0.07686893 Finnish
0.07691614 Russian_Voronez
0.07728130 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.07748194 Spanish_Girona
0.07780406 French_South

[Avicenna]

There is most likely diversity with Afghans because of not mixing. When populations mix they will even out distances. With places like Ireland, Britain, Scandinavians they have had a long history of interaction because of sea travel and also Britain colonised Ireland. It's an example of how the sea isn't a genetic boundary.

Here's my distances to Pashtuns.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.21061473 Parsi_Pakistan
0.21130871 Iraqi_Jew
0.21354289 Parsi_India
0.21392154 Palestinian
0.21887245 Samaritan
0.21985284 Jatt_Pathak
0.21992963 Iranian_Bandari
0.22085643 Ror
0.22484067 Uthmankhel
0.22604491 Tarkalani
0.22687115 BedouinA
0.22771939 Kho_Singanali
0.22869876 Turkmen
0.23032189 Kalash
0.23130873 Yusufzai
0.23269611 Pashtun
0.23732209 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.23835613 Balochi
0.24107341 Makrani
0.24132930 Brahui
0.24195387 Mari
0.24223780 Kamboj
0.24739377 Punjabi_Jatt
0.24860019 Moroccan_North

Also something interesting is that I'm closer to Ukrainians before any Spanish region. So even Western Europeans aren't necessarily the closest to each other.

0.07212042 Ukrainian
0.07380695 Cossack_Ukrainian
0.07514324 Montenegrin
0.07516348 Spanish_Penedes
0.07608760 Spanish_Barcelones
0.07645015 Russian_Orel
0.07686893 Finnish
0.07691614 Russian_Voronez
0.07728130 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.07748194 Spanish_Girona
0.07780406 French_South

If you want use afghans as reference then I suggest you use the afghan Pashtuns sample

[Grace O'Malley]

If you want use afghans as reference then I suggest you use the afghan Pashtuns sample

That sample isn't in the averaged sheet which is what I'm looking at or is it called something different?

[Avicenna]

That sample isn't in the averaged sheet which is what I'm looking at or is it called something different?

Nomansman has access to them as well other AFG pashtuns /tajik which is more representative of Afghans in general.

[Grace O'Malley]

Just out of interest this is what I get using all the averaged G25 spreadsheet.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6928% / 0.01692810
50.0 Irish
48.0 Icelandic
1.0 Adygei
1.0 Cossack_Kuban

If I remove Icelandic this is my result.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.7431% / 0.01743112
75.6 Irish
23.8 Swedish
0.4 Lithuanian_PZ
0.2 Cossack_Kuban

Does anyone else want to post their results? Do North Africans get any Spanish regions? Also what do Spanish posters get?

[Leto]

What are you guys still trying to prove? That the Berbers are not close to the Iberians?

Nomansman has access to them as well other AFG pashtuns /tajik which is more representative of Afghans in general.
What kind of Tajik are you? I guess you aren't tested, are you? I'm interested in Tajiks, some are pretty Aryan by ancestry.

[Nomansman]

What are you guys still trying to prove? That the Berbers are not close to the Iberians?

What kind of Tajik are you? I guess you aren't tested, are you? I'm interested in Tajiks, some are pretty Aryan by ancestry.

No, now we're just posting posts out of interest, nothing more.

Also, avicenna is a kabuli tajik. He could range from a normal afg tajik(those with 10% mong), to a normal afg pashtun to a more south asian shifted afghan(the kind of south asian shifted afghan who would be equally as close to me as to some punjabis....some kabulis really can turn south asian. But for now we can just guess)

[Nomansman]

That sample isn't in the averaged sheet which is what I'm looking at or is it called something different?

These are the afghan pashtun samples youre looking for:

Pashtun:Pashtun2_20Af,0.084229,0.014217,-0.065996,0.037145,-0.057241,0.027331,0.0094,0.006923,-0.02352,-0.014579,-0.007632,0.001049,0.001487,-0.00812,0.017372,0.008088,-0.008866,0.004561,0.009302,-0.00963,0.000749,-0.006925,-0.002588,-0.00723,0.010658
Pashtun:Pashtun2_22Af,0.084229,0.033512,-0.069767,0.040698,-0.052625,0.026495,0.003055,0.001846,-0.027202,-0.020593,-0.006171,-0.001948,0.002825,-0.011423,0.0095,0.0179,0.009648,-0.00038,-0.000754,-0.007128,0.00287,-0.003957,-0.003328,0.005422,0.005149
Pashtun:Pashtun2_8Af,0.086506,0.035544,-0.064111,0.041344,-0.057241,0.029284,0.004935,-0.003231,-0.026997,-0.019864,-0.00406,0.000899,0.001338,0.001101,0.011129,0.0075 58,-0.016298,0.000633,-0.002388,-0.012506,-0.005241,-0.010263,-0.005546,-0.002771,0.005029


There are are some others(including mine):

HRP0370_scaled,0.083091,0.048745,-0.065996,0.032946,-0.061858,0.029562,0.00329,0.000923,-0.015339,-0.01713,-0.001461,0.003747,0.003271,-0.002615,0.016015,0.003447,-0.017863,0.002787,0.000251,-0.017508,0.001747,-0.004204,0.008997,-0.010965,0.002155


HRP0370-Nephew_scaled,0.088782,0.031481,-0.07203,0.044251,-0.06155,0.031236,0.00188,0.001615,-0.011044,-0.015126,-0.005359,-0.005695,0.005798,-0.005643,0.017915,0.013259,-0.003912,0.00228,0.003394,-0.02001,-0.00262,-0.001607,0.007025,-0.003615,0.001676


surbakhun,0.086506,0.036559,-0.075801,0.031654,-0.063396,0.03012,0.005405,-0.000462,-0.025975,-0.02606,-0.009094,0.00015,-0.003122,-0.00289,0.012351,0.02148,0.005998,0.0019,0.008673,-0.009755,-0.010606,-0.008779,0.008874,-0.008676,0.003592


Nomansman_scaled,0.093335,0.051792,-0.072784,0.042959,-0.06432,0.023706,0.00423,0.007615,-0.026179,-0.026242,-0.003085,0.003897,0.000595,-0.006331,0.019272,0.013126,-0.007953,-0.002154,0.002011,-0.014507,-0.003244,-0.013231,0.007025,-0.000361,0.005149


Rukha,0.085367,0.034528,-0.068259,0.049742,-0.0634,0.030399,0.003055,0.000231,-0.0315,-0.018406,-0.016076,-0.00495,-0.002825,-0.013625,0.012215,0.019225,0.003129,-0.000127,0.000628,-0.005628,-0.009109,-0.007172,0.002711,-0.000602,0.004431



You can look for more individual pashtun(although the rest would be paki) coordinates in here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HYrDwxEXv82DvDLoq736pS5ZTGJA4dn5/view

[Leto]

No, now we're just posting posts out of interest, nothing more.

Also, avicenna is a kabuli tajik. He could range from a normal afg tajik(those with 10% mong), to a normal afg pashtun to a more south asian shifted afghan(the kind of south asian shifted afghan who would be equally as close to me as to some punjabis....some kabulis really can turn south asian. But for now we can just guess)
Arhat is quarter Kabuli, he is 5% South Asian/Indian on Harappa and Dod K12b. So his grandfather must have been ~20%. Kabul is mostly Persian-speaking, I guess.

[Nomansman]

Arhat is quarter Kabuli, he is 5% South Asian/Indian on Harappa and Dod K12b. So his grandfather must have been ~20%. Kabul is mostly Persian-speaking, I guess.

Some fully tajiks can turn even up to 22,5% SI actually. Ones from kabul only though.

But yeah, kabul is mostly persian cultured

[Synapsid]

My thoughts? I don't think the North Africans are white collectively speaking. They are not European, nor do they belong to Western civilization or anything remotely close to it. Like you said, you are an Arab, so are most North Africans (a blend of Arabs and Berbers with a strongly Muslim culture). Even if there are a few white-passing individuals from Pakistan all the way to Morocco (the greater "MENA" region), none of the countries and peoples are considered white in any meaningful way, as simple as that. And I doubt they consider themselves white either.

Well technically speaking Berbers were part of the Greeco-Roman and Christian world long before Slavic peoples. Western Christianity was influenced by Tutullian, Origen, and of course St Augustine. I see North Africa as a lost region of the West, not some pure non-western region like Central Asia or Southern Africa, just like S. Iberia use to be in the middles ages.

[Nomansman]

It happens because most of the Euro admixture North Africans have is Sardinian-like. Neolithic Iberians who expanded to North Africa were WHG-rich Sardinians, not modern Iberians with near-half Bell Beaker ancestry like modern Iberians.

On the other hand, ANA part of Iberomaurusian is a type of ancestry far removed from anything non-African even if it's not black African admixture, it's more basal than Basal Eurasian even. That's why North Africans are distant from almost anyone in West Eurasia even having tons of European and Middle Eastern components. They are quite unique genetically.

Honestly, i really doubt some small amount of admix is what pulls the morrocans so far, even if they have shitton of euro alike admix they share with south euros. Even south americans shouldnt be too far from south euros, despite their non-west eurasian admix.

As you guys might have a lot of euro in you, you probably also have a shitton of middleeastern in you which got to be alien asf to south euros. I mean, not even the most north african admixed canaria sample was any close to most euro berber. Its probably because the huge amount of middleeastern in you(tbh, you kind of do have a shitton of middleeastern component in you, like harrappaworld. You got like 30% SW-asian, while spanish get up to max 8%, i think)+ some of the SSA and that ANA component.

Probably also why youre far from west asians and middleeasterners apart from egyptians due to being too euro for middleeasterners as well.