7/8 French 1/8 Greek

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Low SNP

1 North_Sea 26.64
2 Atlantic 25.3
3 West_Med 19.41
4 Baltic 9.85
5 East_Med 5.7
6 Eastern_Euro 5.18
7 West_Asian 4.86
8 Red_Sea 1.32
9 South_Asian 0.88
10 Amerindian 0.4
11 Sub-Saharan 0.31
12 Oceanian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 4.54
2 Spanish_Galicia 6.85
3 Spanish_Cataluna 7.42
4 Portuguese 8.16
5 South_Dutch 8.62
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.81
7 Spanish_Extremadura 10.01
8 Spanish_Cantabria 10.19
9 Spanish_Murcia 10.46
10 West_German 10.53
11 Southwest_French 11.32
12 Southwest_English 11.71
13 Spanish_Valencia 11.91
14 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.14
15 North_Italian 12.6
16 Spanish_Andalucia 13.07
17 Spanish_Aragon 13.09
18 East_German 13.48
19 Southeast_English 13.49
20 North_German 14.55

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% North_Dutch + 31.3% Sardinian @ 2.41
2 70.5% North_German + 29.5% Sardinian @ 2.73
3 80.8% South_Dutch + 19.2% Sardinian @ 2.88
4 68.4% Danish + 31.6% Sardinian @ 3.06
5 91.2% French + 8.8% Sardinian @ 3.12
6 69.3% Irish + 30.7% Sardinian @ 3.14
7 50.9% Spanish_Cantabria + 49.1% West_German @ 3.18
8 75.2% Southwest_English + 24.8% Sardinian @ 3.2
9 72.3% Southeast_English + 27.7% Sardinian @ 3.37
10 52% West_German + 48% Southwest_French @ 3.48
11 68.4% West_Scottish + 31.6% Sardinian @ 3.48
12 57.4% Spanish_Galicia + 42.6% South_Dutch @ 3.69
13 80.2% French + 19.8% Southwest_French @ 3.69
14 68.7% French + 31.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.7
15 78.3% French + 21.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.7
16 66% Spanish_Galicia + 34% Southwest_English @ 3.78
17 71.2% Spanish_Galicia + 28.8% North_German @ 3.82
18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% West_German @ 3.82
19 72.5% French + 27.5% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.84
20 73.1% Spanish_Galicia + 26.9% North_Dutch @ 3.9


1 North_Atlantic 39.1
2 West_Med 23.65
3 Baltic 18.27
4 East_Med 10.66
5 West_Asian 5.06
6 South_Asian 1.37
7 Amerindian 0.82
8 Red_Sea 0.46
9 Sub-Saharan 0.41
10 Oceanian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 French 5.41
2 Spanish_Cataluna 6.88
3 Spanish_Galicia 7.82
4 Portuguese 8.07
5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 8.53
6 Southwest_French 8.91
7 Spanish_Cantabria 8.97
8 Spanish_Valencia 9.11
9 Spanish_Extremadura 9.58
10 Spanish_Murcia 9.8
11 South_Dutch 9.85
12 West_German 9.85
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 9.96
14 Spanish_Andalucia 10.92
15 Spanish_Aragon 11.95
16 North_Italian 11.98
17 Austrian 13.62
18 Southeast_English 14.75
19 East_German 15.36
20 Southwest_English 15.61

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.9% North_German + 33.1% Sardinian @ 1.46
2 78% West_German + 22% Sardinian @ 1.63
3 78% South_Dutch + 22% Sardinian @ 1.78
4 58.6% Spanish_Andalucia + 41.4% East_German @ 1.88
5 63.2% Spanish_Valencia + 36.8% East_German @ 2.06
6 80.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 19.5% Ukrainian @ 2.17
7 79.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 20.1% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.18
8 65.6% Spanish_Cantabria + 34.4% Hungarian @ 2.2
9 70% Spanish_Cataluna + 30% East_German @ 2.21
10 83.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.22
11 79.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 20.5% South_Polish @ 2.22
12 81.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 18.6% Polish @ 2.23
13 56.5% Serbian + 43.5% French_Basque @ 2.25
14 65.8% Danish + 34.2% Sardinian @ 2.28
15 60.3% Spanish_Valencia + 39.7% Austrian @ 2.28
16 83.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.3
17 58.5% Spanish_Aragon + 41.5% Hungarian @ 2.33
18 61.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + 38.9% East_German @ 2.35
19 83% Spanish_Cataluna + 17% Southwest_Russian @ 2.37
20 55.7% Spanish_Andalucia + 44.3% Austrian @ 2.38



Amerindian 0.11 Pct
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 0.88 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 5.63 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 5.17 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 4.71 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 2.29 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.61 Pct
French 14.53 Pct
Iberian 16.15 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 21.58 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African 0.65 Pct
North_Atlantic 9.18 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.62 Pct
North_Sea 10.91 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.52 Pct
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 0.29 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian 0.06 Pct
West_Med 5.04 Pct

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Distance: 3.0738% / 0.03073832
48.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
39.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.4 WHG

0.02150792 French_Paris
0.02248890 French_Occitanie
0.02283790 Swiss_German
0.02314338 French_Auvergne
0.02397660 French_Nord
0.02416998 Swiss_French
0.02555349 French_Alsace
0.02724525 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.02737848 French_Provence
0.02756534 Belgian
0.03061646 Spanish_Penedes
0.03211368 Spanish_Girona
0.03268293 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03481482 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03523748 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03583094 Italian_Northeast
0.03621447 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03627443 Spanish_Lleida
0.03717486 Spanish_Barcelones
0.03721434 French_Brittany
0.03779642 Spanish_Baleares
0.03805791 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.03809999 Spanish_Castello
0.03851272 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03985847 Austrian

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https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/04/3/1579718400-eeee.png

[Samnium]

French Paris sample is quite Iberian shifted, I believe it's linked to the Iberian lean of Western France.

[dududud]

French Paris sample is quite Iberian shifted, I believe it's linked to the Iberian lean of Western France.

I do not know. He just seems to be modeled as average central French.

[Samnium]

I do not know. He just seems to be modeled as average central French.

Yes I definitely think, that's why I said "Iberian lean", the central French cluster is as whole closer to Iberians than to Dutch or Germans.


You see the "yellow" part that's french central cluster is present as north as Paris. Pretty much all the southern half and the western part (except Britanny, Normandy, and Pas-de-Calais).

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Yes I definitely think, that's why I said "Iberian lean", the central French cluster is as whole closer to Iberians than to Dutch or Germans.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/391594357544976384/668417074267422748/EDyWxIHXUAAXJS5.png?width=1214&height=670

You see the "yellow" part that's french central cluster is present as north as Paris. Pretty much all the southern half and the western part (except Britanny, Normandy, and Pas-de-Calais).

Yes but a central Frenchman and closer to another Frenchman than a Spanishman, that's the point on this map. This map show definitively the existence of a French cluster

[Samnium]

Yes but a central Frenchman and closer to another Frenchman than a Spanishman, that's the point on this map. This map show definitively the existence of a French cluster

Depends on what french though, there are northern fringes but yeah the french cluster exist obviously, it's just that France is a transitional zone between SW and NW populations so that's why you have Central France closer to Iberians, while other regions will be closer to NW populations, even if between them they are closer (generally speaking) than the non-french populations they are close to.

The thing is that we lack lot of French samples from lot of regions, for example I've never seen a sample from Burgundy, Normandy.... I would assume that French cluster is all between Britanny reference, a bit south of French reference, West German/Belgian reference and Basque reference.

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Depends on what french though, there are northern fringes but yeah the french cluster exist obviously, it's just that France is a transitional zone between SW and NW populations so that's why you have Central France closer to Iberians, while other regions will be closer to NW populations, even if between them they are closer (generally speaking) than the non-french populations they are close to.

The thing is that we lack lot of French samples from lot of regions, for example I've never seen a sample from Burgundy, Normandy.... I would assume that French cluster is all between Britanny reference, a bit south of French reference and West German/Belgian reference.

I believe that the study from which the card comes has several samples, including those from the center of France?

[Samnium]

I believe that the study from which the card comes has several samples, including those from the center of France?

Yes I can see what sampling they used if you want.

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Yes I can see what sampling they used if you want.

Show me.

[Samnium]

Show me.


Fine-scale genetic population structure in France, Joanna GIEMZA (2019)


20 samples per province, it's not a lot but all the french provinces ("départements") are covered which is something very interesting

[dududud]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/638825419436720148/669625770540269568/unknown.png

Fine-scale genetic population structure in France, Joanna GIEMZA (2019)


20 samples per province, it's not a lot but all the french provinces ("départements") are covered which is something very interesting

20 samples per province is always better than the samples available on Gedmatch ...

If these samples were included on gedmatch, I am sure to have a closer proximity to the French from the southeast.

[Samnium]

20 samples per province is always better than the samples available on Gedmatch ...

If these samples were included on gedmatch, I am sure to have a closer proximity to the French from the southeast.

I agree those are professional samples with a very high of SNP analyzed and a high level of accuracy, nothing to do with "amateur" Gedmatch that's really outdated and give different results to everyone.

Not southwestern ? Southeast seems to be more North Italian shifted, especially on G25 the Marseille sample is practically the same of the Northeast Italian one I believe.

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Not southwestern ? Southeast seems to be more North Italian shifted, especially on G25 the Marseille sample is practically the same of the Northeast Italian one I believe.

I'm a little more eastern shifted than the Catalans and the French from the Southwest.

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/04/3/1579722430-dede.png

[Samnium]

I'm a little more eastern shifted than the Catalans and the French from the Southwest.

https://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2020/04/3/1579722430-dede.png

Ok I see. Your Sardinian side might have some East Med or maybe your father, don't know.

But yeah basing on that picture you will be close to SE French and plot like Trento areas.

[dududud]

Ok I see. Your Sardinian side might have some East Med or maybe your father, don't know.

But yeah basing on that picture you will be close to SE French and plot like Trento areas.

Trento, yeah.


My results:

1 North_Atlantic 38.97
2 West_Med 27.41
3 Baltic 13.8
4 East_Med 11.39
5 West_Asian 5.34
6 East_Asian 1.55
7 Red_Sea 1.05
8 Sub-Saharan 0.32
9 Oceanian 0.15


Barcin_N,57
Yamnaya_Samara,32.8
WHG,9.8
Han,0.4

0.02609388 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.02669493 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02773651 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.02943306 Spanish_Lleida
0.03004642 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.03009889 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03025102 Italian_Bergamo
0.03059421 Spanish_Aragon
0.03067901 French_Auvergne
0.03087552 Spanish_Penedes
0.03103724 Spanish_Valencia
0.03106019 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03121372 Spanish_Baleares
0.03122473 Spanish_Girona
0.03124159 Italian_Lombardy
0.03149856 Spanish_Menorca
0.03171026 French_Provence
0.03176389 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.03213324 Spanish_Cataluna
0.03221976 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.03275819 Spanish_Pirineu
0.03283374 French_Occitanie
0.03287426 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03343845 Spanish_Cantabria
0.03386100 Spanish_Asturias






Mother:

65.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
26.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.0 WHG
0.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N


0.03261063 Italian_Lombardy
0.03450613 Italian_Bergamo
0.03760000 French_Corsica
0.04097807 Spanish_Menorca
0.04152536 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04161598 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04320562 Spanish_Baleares
0.04325985 Spanish_Eivissa
0.04333024 Italian_Piedmont
0.04337742 Italian_Veneto
0.04376790 Italian_Liguria
0.04387011 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04538461 Spanish_Valencia
0.04554990 Spanish_Andalucia
0.04618132 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04655279 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04659165 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04675050 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04725483 Spanish_Aragon
0.04740506 Spanish_Alacant
0.04766341 Spanish_Lleida
0.04782257 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04807637 Spanish_Murcia
0.04846812 Spanish_Girona
0.04854816 Spanish_Catalunya_Central

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[Aileron]

Nice....

[dududud]

Nice....

Thanks.

[Saint-Glinglin]

If these samples were included on gedmatch, I am sure to have a closer proximity to the French from the southeast.

Yeah, that would be really interesting to have them on gedmatch ! Nice thread by the way !