Classify Russian viking girl

[Ymyyakhtakh]

The photos are from this blog post: http://sagy.vikingove.cz/inspiromat-3-zena-z-birky/.

Google translation:


Lidia conceived his costume in the first half of the 10th century in Birka. Most of her equipment consists of replicas from the grave Bj 965, which dates back to 913 with the help of a coin. Nevertheless, Lidia does not place her costume on the ideal reconstruction of Birka's clothes, because she has replicas of items not found in Birka. Lidie also told me that she was in the process of remodeling and sewing new caftan and outerwear, and at the same time she apologized for reconstructing three periods at the same time and not knowing all the grave numbers by heart.

In the photos we can see just three underwear, which have a simple tunic cut. The first ones (blue) are made of 100% wool woven in a diamond twill weave. They are dyed with indigo and lined with silk twill, whose warp is dyed with buckthorn and indigo weft. The silk trim at the neck can be seen two card strips made of silver and silk, which have a pattern in the card from the grave Bj 965. The second underwear (yellow) is made of polychrome silk and lined with blue silk. A card strip can also be found on this edging. The third underwear (green) is made of simple flax and is trimmed with silk, which is stained with stained soda.

Outerwear (apron, hangerock) is trapezoidal and is made of 100% wool twill dyed indigo. Despite this dress Lidie wears red-red caftan, which is sewn from 100% wool woven in weave quadruple twill. The dye is stained; the escape is a bit darker than the warp. Caftan is hemmed with Sasanid silk with motifs of medallions with lions and phoenix. The second caftan, yellow, is linen, lined with silk, lined with polychrome silk and beaver fur.

Oval brooches are replicas of findings that have been found in several Birka graves, including Bj 965. All other buckles, necklaces and pendants, ear spoons or pincushions are replicas of Birka's findings. The exception is the Friesian ridge with its case and crosses, which are based on findings from the island of Ruegen. The costume is complemented by a scarf with a knot, which is an interpretation of the "knot" depicted in the Valkyrie figures.

Actually I'm not sure if she's an ethnic Russian.

I found the photos by searching Yandex's reverse image search for images that were similar to a photo of a Chuvash girl (https://yandex.ru/images/search?source=collections&url=http%3A%2F%2Fds73.ucoz.ru%2F_nw%2F31%2F4015243 6.jpg&rpt=imagelike).

https://i.imgur.com/If4upFX.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/dCAUBqq.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/8a7wROn.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Xd8BYGX.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/89eZinf.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/rzryyU7.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/e9njmiW.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/8drtrh3.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/hVHOfCx.jpg

[Ülev]

NEUP I guess

[sean]

Uralid.

[VigVagKesalt]

Looks 3/10 Siberian

[Laag]

Uralische/NEUP

[Kivan]

East Baltid.

[Maintenance]

Looks finnish

[Laag]

Actually I'm not sure if she's an ethnic Russian.


She looks very Russian, no one would have thought that she was not Russian.
Looks like this girl from Vologda.
https://s15.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/12/6002556/inx960x640.jpg
https://s12.stc.all.kpcdn.net/share/i/4/729326/wx1080.jpg

This Bulgarian looking churka from Russia (he has Bulgarian surname) doesn't look Russian but the OP girl looks Ok.
https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/priutkomedianta/40988188/27011/original.jpg

[Joso]

baltid+mongoloid

[Ymyyakhtakh]

More photos from this girl's VKontakte (https://vk.com/id11203130):

https://i.imgur.com/bGqfQSd.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/gGRILIM.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xcIIK2S.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/qLWERj9.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/nOO5fzJ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/dNDCPFZ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/jDACNeh.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NqbARZC.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/bSC5gAU.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/yA82FUa.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/eZojaT3.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/zPRwMzK.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/NIKR1mX.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/irqi4uU.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/5HA0dvu.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/oI90e5q.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/FbpSgbQ.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/TOFPEUi.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/s9ClfPH.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/Ip11O5Q.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/YMXdtw7.jpg

Opposite ends of the eyelid spectrum:

https://i.imgur.com/df6oJ0U.jpg

Here's a morph of photos I found by searching for people who looked like this girl on Yandex's reverse image search (which actually returned multiple Finns, and it also returned one Khanty):

https://i.imgur.com/zSQ9fZw.jpg


She looks very Russian, no one would have thought that she was not Russian.

Yeah apparently she's from Tver.

[Laag]

Yeah apparently she's from Tver.

Yes, very Northern European appearance.

https://i.imgur.com/nwbYszJ.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LQJYXfb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/bklHZrs.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iaQVV6S.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ObhqcUj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2UjxxJj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DNqG0ku.jpg

[Columella]

Cool look
She seems between the Baltic/Ladogan and Uralid
I know a Ukrainian girl with a nearly identical but minor the “Uralic” features.

[Laag]

Also she looks like these Russian sportswomen.

https://novostivoronezha.ru/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/mel-nitkova-598x350.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSN_ydqr_y9ZKWY1a1Y9CSnF-XpG9S0iUV_q8DlH5me7gq0Obj5yg&s
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/67847717_575206019885269_7692645115789969567_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=5mUWzLtMu5wAX9FgOwN&oh=d737eb5e46e666df7eea204ef549c0f2&oe=5EDB3764
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/61406420_610328889465688_8233762394149970015_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=lao3_OwQvQEAX8AcbsK&oh=6c1e79de812e13a91d621fa110fd4086&oe=5ED61CED
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/61711218_606440913183246_3982750928720359421_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=tMC9TmPDlJUAX-I1uFc&oh=b76150e6c7bafd53fdaca77c66f6018d&oe=5ED53DEA
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/58453587_1317942171715609_2278816774129689396_n.jp g?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=101&_nc_ohc=1GeiFjOQAJAAX_nEm6D&oh=0659c2cb984c566760bc4bc12bbc3afe&oe=5ED5E307
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/56359445_439173000178347_4564028991609080224_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=103&_nc_ohc=73J75XyzA_0AX_c8_4G&oh=0bab55c5f3ad7176ab2875fc2d2dc80c&oe=5EBBEAC4
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/p1080x1080/73401869_787722218335586_1813860641613075849_n.jpg ?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=102&_nc_ohc=kXxGGzOmNA0AX-MikRa&oh=e24bc758d0e107f1e6eacc088edeac01&oe=5ED66466
https://scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/64915471_1313911285414247_1536975032016564497_n.jp g?_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=H73W0P2fyuMAX9sq6OD&oh=81d005c6fd27286d764ade8e47cf73ed&oe=5EC0F043



https://pp.userapi.com/c841134/v841134136/3e87a/_r1_LtJmDJA.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c844520/v844520125/42e66/OeuEOs9O2Po.jpg
https://pp.userapi.com/c639321/v639321333/de66/NVcdQxBfwk4.jpg


Those Russians who say that they don't look Russian probably looks like that Bulgarian looking churka "Russian" director Konstantin Bogomolov.
https://snob.ru/indoc/attachments/snob2/03/24/0324e745e0980343b94627ca4b7b85273000455d003cdd41da 69a6448e1e6f3e.jpg

[Blondie]

Baltid + CM

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Also she looks like these Russian sportswomen.

...

Those Russians who say that they don't look Russian probably looks like that Bulgarian looking churka "Russian" director Konstantin Bogomolov.

Konstantin Bogomolov the forced meme lol.

The first one doesn't look nearly as perfect because for example she has too high upper eyelid exposure and dark skin of the eyelids.

Also look at how much bigger this girl's face is compared to everyone else:

https://sun9-50.userapi.com/c849432/v849432026/4b806/bE5Q-jp0F28.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/DsgElAo.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/WQjdjue.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/iy8aefE.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/9W9cH30.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/SS4GTeG.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/e46ViAP.jpg

I feel like the key to looking perfect is to have maximum face size.

By face I mean this:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Facial_skeleton_-_en.svg

[ooops]

typical Russian Balto-Mongol girl

[Laag]

Also look at how much bigger this girl's face is compared to everyone else:


Yeah true. Big face is general Upper Paleolithic trait.
NEUP woman from Coon.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe022.jpg
Her upper facial height = 130 mm.
Some male examples of Brunn or Borreby types from Coon have even lower facial height.

[Hajimurad]

Also she looks like these Russian sportswomen.

Those Russians who say that they don't look Russian probably looks like that Bulgarian looking churka "Russian" director Konstantin Bogomolov.

That girl and Bulgarian equally looks atypical for majority of ethnic Russians, which belongs to various mixed or intermediate types between Baltid and Pontid (like Eugene Ponasenkov, Serge Shnurov or Prokhor Shalyapin).

[Laag]

Probably similar this Mari woman from Biasutti.
https://i.imgur.com/AzaoQPg.jpg

[Batavia]

A Westbaltid/Eastbaltid mix imo.

[Tellerin]

Uralic with Features of Greec [overall] and Tunisians [mouth area]
Bulgarian
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f0/BASA-2072K-1-337-248-National_costume_of_Bulgaria%2C_Samokov.JPG

[Norb]

Aryan invader phenotype?

[Davy Jones's Locker]

I'd guess East Baltic.

[GustavusAdolphus]

Looks East Baltic to me

[Oneeye]

Looks Russian AF, not Viking to me

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Out of the two Bulgarian girls Tellerin posted, I think the one on the left (who looks more like the girl in this thread) looks a lot better. She has a wider face, bigger cheekbones, a shorter nose, a lower bridge of the nose, a less downturned nose, and a longer distance between the nose and the mouth. Her eyes look more alert and less sad, because she has higher canthal tilt, her supraorbital rims are less slanted outwards, the skin of her eyelids is less dark, and the lines of her lower eyelids are less prominent. Her skin also looks more firm, so her nasolabial folds look more like sharp lines.

https://i.imgur.com/8zjzw5k.jpg


Looks Russian AF, not Viking to me

What about Rurik's viking babes in Staraya Ladoga?

Don't forget that North Germanics are genetically, phenotypically, and geographically intermediate between other Germanics and NEEs.

In the same way that worse-looking North Germanics look more like the more southern higher-EEF populations (like Germans and the British), I think that better-looking North Germanics look more like the more northern lower-EEF populations (like Saami, Finns, Karelians, Pomors, and Komis):

https://i.imgur.com/5ELZdy0.jpg

[Lousianaboy]

wtf her chin is very low, round, weak and a extremely retracted chin

[Lousianaboy]

she reminds me a lighter and blonde version of the chess player Magnus Carlsen but he is norwegian

[GustavusAdolphus]

East Baltics are probably the purest Nordics along with Faelid

[Lousianaboy]

curiously some northern europeans resemble american mestizos or amerindians like Bjork

[Lousianaboy]

East Baltics are probably the purest Nordics along with Faelid

and what about we the Hallstatt, felids, north atlantid, keltid nordic, port nordid, east nordid, north pontid, .....

[kalach]

Albino black

[GustavusAdolphus]

and what about we the Hallstatt, felids, north atlantid, keltid nordic, port nordid, east nordid, north pontid, .....

True there are pure strains among those but on the whole the East Baltics looks the most strongest features, large skull, heavy bones, wide nose, good for surviving a northern climate

[Dick]

and what about we the Hallstatt, felids, north atlantid, keltid nordic, port nordid, east nordid, north pontid, .....

Hallstatts probably looked more like Charles de Gaulle

https://www.onthisday.com/images/people/charles-de-gaulle-medium.jpg

[Lousianaboy]

True there are pure strains among those but on the whole the East Baltics looks the most strongest features, large skull, heavy bones, wide nose, good for surviving a northern climate

but east baltic are nor long skulled they are flat skulled and round headed, in my opinion the east baltic are a intermediate racial group between nordics and mongoloids, obviously they are more adapted to extreme cold weather but this doesn't makes them nordics, remember that they were developed in Eurasia and we the nordics like faelid and north atlantid developed our lives in the ancient balkans and France

[Ymyyakhtakh]

East Baltics are probably the purest Nordics along with Faelid

Yeah except the term Nordic/Nordid was hijacked by Coon et al., so it now refers to the weak-skulled depigmented wog types (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IV2.htm):


It can be shown that Sumerians who lived over five thousand years ago in Mesopotamia are almost identical in skull and face form with living Englishmen, and that predynastic Egyptian skulls can be matched both in a seventeenth century London plague pit, and in Neolithic cist-graves in Switzerland. Modern dolichocephalic whites or browns are very similar in head and face measurements and form. The Nordic race in the strict sense is merely a pigment phase of the Mediterranean.[3]

[Footnote 3: Popularly, the word "Nordic" is frequently applied to a blond or pigmentally intermediate conglomerate type or group of types in northern Europe, which contains other than blond Mediterranean elements.]

Therefore only someone who looks like a depigmented MENA can be a pure Nordic.

[GustavusAdolphus]

Atlantid is more of a mediterranean strains and keltic nordid is just a cross between atlantid and halstatt/faelid (from the original anglo saxons who were 100% halstatt/faelid) east nordid i would group in with the east baltic. Even halstatt i would say has some mediterranean influence. When i think of a true german i think of Irma Grese or Ilse Koch or Mannfred Richtofen all East Baltic

[GustavusAdolphus]

Yeah except the term Nordic/Nordid was hijacked by Coon et al., so it now refers to the weak-skulled depigmented wog types (https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-IV2.htm):


It can be shown that Sumerians who lived over five thousand years ago in Mesopotamia are almost identical in skull and face form with living Englishmen, and that predynastic Egyptian skulls can be matched both in a seventeenth century London plague pit, and in Neolithic cist-graves in Switzerland. Modern dolichocephalic whites or browns are very similar in head and face measurements and form. The Nordic race in the strict sense is merely a pigment phase of the Mediterranean.[3]

[Footnote 3: Popularly, the word "Nordic" is frequently applied to a blond or pigmentally intermediate conglomerate type or group of types in northern Europe, which contains other than blond Mediterranean elements.]

Therefore only someone who looks like a depigmented MENA can be a pure Nordic.

I agree 100%

[Lousianaboy]

Atlantid is more of a mediterranean strains and keltic nordid is just a cross between atlantid and halstatt/faelid (from the original anglo saxons who were 100% halstatt/faelid) east nordid i would group in with the east baltic. Even halstatt i would say has some mediterranean influence. When i think of a true german i think of Irma Grese or Ilse Koch or Mannfred Richtofen all East Baltic
then what am I ?

[GustavusAdolphus]

Perhaps but I believe the long skull comes from armenoid admixture. Look at half Jewish Heydrich, long skull, Nordic features, but Armenoid admixture is very obvious (from his Jewish half)

[Dick]

Looks Russian AF, not Viking to me

Ok Oneeye


https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Tk1FS57UIIlwxr01s3hcMvb6srs=/0x0:1280x720/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:1280x720):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/7577631/madseye.jpg

[GustavusAdolphus]

then what am I ?

I assume you're Engllish or Scotch Irish like me, if youre from the South.

[Lousianaboy]

I assume you're Engllish or Scotch Irish like me, if youre from the South.

my father is cajun

[GustavusAdolphus]

It doesn't look too apparant, you look Anglo to me maybe with some German/French (being the south), I'd say if I had to guess 75% Anglo Teutonic with 25% Atlantid

[GustavusAdolphus]

my father is cajun

You look pretty Anglo to me, where I live it is nearly 100% English and you could easily pass. You should be proud of your Native American ancestry. They were a noble race :)

[Lousianaboy]

You look pretty Anglo to me, where I live it is nearly 100% English and you could easily pass. You should be proud of your Native American ancestry. They were a noble race :)

I just had Cherokee and choctaw far ancestry and were my great great grandparents, why do you think I have amerindian ancestry ?

[GustavusAdolphus]

I just had Cherokee and choctaw far ancestry and were my great great grandparents, why do you think I have amerindian ancestry ?

Yeah it's not apparant by looking at you, you look English and French.

[Oneeye]

Out of the two Bulgarian girls Tellerin posted, I think the one on the left (who looks more like the girl in this thread) looks a lot better. She has a wider face, bigger cheekbones, a shorter nose, a lower bridge of the nose, a less downturned nose, and a longer distance between the nose and the mouth. Her eyes look more alert and less sad, because she has higher canthal tilt, her supraorbital rims are less slanted outwards, the skin of her eyelids is less dark, and the lines of her lower eyelids are less prominent. Her skin also looks more firm, so her nasolabial folds look more like sharp lines.

https://i.imgur.com/8zjzw5k.jpg



What about Rurik's viking babes in Staraya Ladoga?

Don't forget that North Germanics are genetically, phenotypically, and geographically intermediate between other Germanics and NEEs.

In the same way that worse-looking North Germanics look more like the more southern higher-EEF populations (like Germans and the British), I think that better-looking North Germanics look more like the more northern lower-EEF populations (like Saami, Finns, Karelians, Pomors, and Komis):

https://i.imgur.com/5ELZdy0.jpg

Worse looking North Germanics? :confused:

[Ymyyakhtakh]

wtf her chin is very low, round, weak and a extremely retracted chin

It's just Western and Southeast Europeans who have freakish protruding chins. This is what U.S. whites look like to us:

https://i.imgur.com/TY5N9HD.jpg

"Weak" is the wrong word to describe a non-protruding chin, because people who have a more protruding chin tend have a more weak-looking and smaller mandible, and people who have a less protruding chin tend to have a more strong-looking and larger mandible, like in the case of these Hungarian handball players:

https://i.imgur.com/ttG3lwT.jpg


Worse looking North Germanics? :confused:

Don't you think that there is a north-south continuum, where for example worse-looking Spanish people look more North African and better-looking Spanish people look more British, worse-looking British people look more Spanish and better-looking British people look more North Germanic, and worse-looking North Germanic people look more British? However the continuum does not stop there, and even among North Germanics, I think better-looking people tend to look northern even by North Germanic standards.

(I prefer the term "North Germanic" over the term "Scandinavian". The term "Scandinavian" is ambiguous, because it is sometimes considered to not include Icelandics or Danes, and it is sometimes considered to include Finns. And Saami are also Scandinavian in the sense that they are native inhabitants of the Scandinavian peninsula.)

[Oneeye]

It's just Western and Southeast Europeans who have freakish protruding chins. This is what U.S. whites look like to us:

https://i.imgur.com/TY5N9HD.jpg

"Weak" is the wrong word to describe a non-protruding chin, because people who have a more protruding chin tend have a more weak-looking and smaller mandible, and people who have a less protruding chin tend to have a more strong-looking and larger mandible, like in the case of these Hungarian handball players:

https://i.imgur.com/ttG3lwT.jpg



Don't you think that there is a north-south continuum, where for example worse-looking Spanish people look more North African and better-looking Spanish people look more British, worse-looking British people look more Spanish and better-looking British people look more North Germanic, and worse-looking North Germanic people look more British? However the continuum does not stop there, and even among North Germanics, I think better-looking people tend to look northern even by North Germanic standards.

(I prefer the term "North Germanic" over the term "Scandinavian". The term "Scandinavian" is ambiguous, because it is sometimes considered to not include Icelandics or Danes, and it is sometimes considered to include Finns. And Saami are also Scandinavian in the sense that they are native inhabitants of the Scandinavian peninsula.)



I think that the better looking Finns look more North Germanic or Slavic while the worse looking Finns look more Finnish.

[TrevorXdX]

East Baltid

[IrisSelene]

so pretty,,,, looks east baltid imo

[Grace O'Malley]

Why "Viking"? She looks East Baltid. Viking doesn't even correspond to Scandinavian as Vikings were just pirates. Anyway this girl doesn't even look particularly Scandinavian. She looks more Finnic or Russian.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Why "Viking"? She looks East Baltid. Viking doesn't even correspond to Scandinavian as Vikings were just pirates. Anyway this girl doesn't even look particularly Scandinavian. She looks more Finnic or Russian.

Read the OP. She's dressed in Viking cosplay she made.

Scandinavians are phenotypically and autosomally intermediate between Germans and Brits on one hand (higher EEF, more südländisch) and Finnics and North Russians on the other hand (lower EEF, less südländisch).

What counts as "Northern European" ancestry in places like America is mostly British and German ancestry, so from the point of view of U.S. whites, Scandinavians are phenotypically shifted towards Finnics and North Russians, and similarly Finnics and North Russians are even more shifted in the Scandinavian direction than Scandinavians.

[Hungarian_master]

East Baltid.

[Davystayn]

True there are pure strains among those but on the whole the East Baltics looks the most strongest features, large skull, heavy bones, wide nose, good for surviving a northern climate

Surely Innuits are best adapted to extreme northerly climates, or is that the relationship here?

[Wolfdog]

East Baltid + slight Nordic
IMO