Do i have Mediterranean influence in my phenotype?

[Aileron]

In this thread you can find photos,
Do i have med influence?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311873-Classy-me-please

[Reis-i Cumhur]

No you are a typical kıpchak turk.

[Aileron]

No you are a typical kıpchak turk.

So no med influence

[Reis-i Cumhur]

So no med influence

No med influence no not even fucking close xXDD

[Columella]

From the pics probably Nordo-Med with possibly a Turanian or some Eurasian influence.

In short you don’t seem to belong 100% to any category..a nice profile shot or an above head shot would help.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Pictures in the sun, squinting, increase people's Turan ancestry by 100%

[Aileron]

Thanks for the answers....
I was classified as Nordid with some Turanid influence and i know that Nordids and Meds have some relations apart from pigmention

[Kivan]

Nope, no at all. You look almost totally Nordid.

[Hajimurad]

No you are a typical kıpchak turk.

Kazakhs,Uzbeks, Bashkirs and Nogays who belonged to Kipchak (Kypsak, Kypshak) tribe indeed have Turanid traits but lack light pigmentation. That Turk more resembled a Kazan Tatar (who are mixed descendants of Bulgars and Finns).

[Aileron]

Kazakhs,Uzbeks, Bashkirs and Nogays who belonged to Kipchak (Kypsak, Kypshak) tribe indeed have Turanid traits but lack light pigmentation. That Turk more resembled a Kazan Tatar (who are mixed descendants of Bulgars and Finns).

Hmm Tatars are Turkic too, and Nordid is essentially a steppe pheno anyway...

[Reis-i Cumhur]

Kazakhs,Uzbeks, Bashkirs and Nogays who belonged to Kipchak (Kypsak, Kypshak) tribe indeed have Turanid traits but lack light pigmentation. That Turk more resembled a Kazan Tatar (who are mixed descendants of Bulgars and Finns).

Kazakhs are turkıfied mongols
Uzbeks are descended from Karluks not Kıpchaks
Old kıpchaks portrayed as blond haired blue eyed by Chinese writers.
Also DA 179 Kıpchak was only %20 mongoloid and had good amount of European ancestry just saying
As you say He can pass as Kazan Tatar.

[Aileron]

Kazakhs are turkıfied mongols
Uzbeks are descended from Karluks not Kıpchaks
Old kıpchaks portrayed as blond haired blue eyed by Chinese writers.
Also DA 179 Kıpchak was only %20 mongoloid and had good amount of European ancestry just saying
As you say He can pass as Kazan Tatar.

Agreed,
Cumans were described blonde even by Germans

[Hajimurad]

Hmm Tatars are Turkic too, and Nordid is essentially a steppe pheno anyway...

Tatars is an umbrella term for Turkic Muslims in Russia (even Azeris were called as Tatars). Real Tatars are nomadic tribal confederations of Kangly-Kipchak-Mongol origin (Nogays, Steppe Crimean Tatars, Bashkirs, Astrakhan and Siberian Tatars, Kipchak-speaking Uzbeks and Kazakhs). They are mostly Turanid and Aralid (Tungid-Turanid). Kazan and Mishar Tatars are mainly of mixed Bulgar-Magyar and Finnic origin and mostly Baltid-Turanid and Pontid by race. Muslims of Kazans called themselves "Bulgar". Term "Mishar" derived from "Magyar".

[Hajimurad]

Kazakhs are turkıfied mongols
Uzbeks are descended from Karluks not Kıpchaks
Old kıpchaks portrayed as blond haired blue eyed by Chinese writers.
Also DA 179 Kıpchak was only %20 mongoloid and had good amount of European ancestry just saying
As you say He can pass as Kazan Tatar.

About Kazakhs - only partially.
Before Soviet revolution population of Uzbekistan was divided on three ethnicities:
- Sarts (Sedentary population of cities, many of whom descended from Tajiks. Karluk language. Pamirid type)
- Chagatay Turks (descendants of Karakhanid/Hakani Turks, who brought Karluk language and mixed with Mongols of Tamerlane)
- real Uzbeks (Kipchak language. Named after khan Uzbek of Golden horde. Came from Siberian khanate with Abu-ul-Khayr and expelled Timurids to India. Ethnically related to Kazakhs).
Under Soviet domination they were lumped into one "Uzbek" nation with Karluk language.

[Adamm]

You can pass as a viking. No med.

[samario]

I see some Orientalid/Mongoloid influence in you but you clearly have light pigmentation.

[Aileron]

You can pass as a viking. No med.

Thanks my friend

[Aileron]

I see some Orientalid/Mongoloid influence in you but you clearly have light pigmentation.

Thanks my friend, can i pass in Colombia?

[Duffmannn]

Absolutely not

[Erronkari]

Very nordic influenced.
I saw some chuvash guys similar to you.

[Zroota]

Maybe North Pontid, as Med goes.

[samario]

Thanks my friend, can i pass in Colombia?

Sure, there are people with light hair and light eyes over here.

[Wolfdog]

IMO Pontid/North Pontid = main element in your phenotype.

Technically, your morphology falls into "Mediterranoid" group,
but using this logic half of East Europe = "Mediterraneans".

So it seems to be debatable

[Zroota]

IMO Pontid/North Pontid = main element in your phenotype.

Technically, your morphology falls into "Mediterranoid" group,
but using this logic half of East Europe = "Mediterraneans".

So it seems to be debatable
True. So that's why he cannot be Mediterranean. His features are too light overall. And if he is Med, then actual Meds from Southern Europe must be Orientalid or something.

Sometimes people broaden Med so much where they include pseudo Nordic (or Atlantid) types and as well as coarse looking Arabs in the Med category.

[Celestia]

No I don’t see any

[Marmara]

Kazakhs are turkıfied mongols
Uzbeks are descended from Karluks not Kıpchaks
Old kıpchaks portrayed as blond haired blue eyed by Chinese writers.
Also DA 179 Kıpchak was only %20 mongoloid and had good amount of European ancestry just saying
As you say He can pass as Kazan Tatar.

Kipchaks were always described as Mongoloid. The Blonde haired Blue eyed people Chinese described are Tocharians, not Kipchaks. There is another Turkic people Chinese described as having Red Hair and Blue Eyes. They were Yenisei Kyrgyz (not much related to modern Kygyz).

The blonde haired blue eyed Turks were Cumans, who were described with such traits by Arabs and Europeans, not Chinese. As far as we know Chinese sources do not mention Cumans at all.

[Aileron]

Thanks for all answers

[Tauromachos]

Nope not much i'd say

Maybe just a tiny bit

You almost look like you could be German

[Aileron]

more?

[Aileron]

bumpish

[Corded]

Yes. probably Nord-pontid + minor turanid

[Aileron]

Yes. probably Nord-pontid + minor turanid

Thank you

[Aileron]

bump

[Aileron]

bumpish

[Voskos]

Yes, some atlantid.

[Aileron]

Yes, some atlantid.

thanks

[Aileron]

more ideas?

[Altaison]

Nope, you give me Fingolian or uralic admixed Northern Russian vibe. Diametrically opposite of meds.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Nope

Your region is the most turanic influenced in your country

[Aileron]

Nope, you give me Fingolian or uralic admixed Northern Russian vibe. Diametrically opposite of meds.

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[Altaison]

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[Nurzat]

In this thread you can find photos,
Do i have med influence?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311873-Classy-me-please

no, you best pass around 45 North



Pictures in the sun, squinting, increase people's Turan ancestry by 100%

what about bathroom spotlight pics? xD

https://scontent.fsbz1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/88424919_213305909859959_9075977744327639040_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=AQMiLQ_IixUAX-ig4eg&_nc_ht=scontent.fsbz1-1.fna&oh=012d3dc7478bc247a2e3ff27b4a5af0b&oe=5EB1263E

[itilvolga]

Nope

Your region is the most turanic influenced in your country

True, but Aegean Region is also one of the most Med influenced regions of Turkey so his region shouldn't be the main reason. And he is a Yörük, not a regular Aegean Turk.

[brennus dux gallorum]

True, but Aegean Region is also one of the most Med influenced regions of Turkey so his region shouldn't be the main reason. And he is a Yörük, not a regular Aegean Turk.
Doesn't that make him even more altaic?

[itilvolga]

Doesn't that make him even more altaic?

Yes, but the region is located in Mediterranean so it isn't the main reason of his phenotype.

[joanna_38]

Probably something Balkan. Can't really judge just from your profile picture (and in that other link, there isn't much to look at either.) but from what i vaguely see, you look a bit northern shifted than Mediterranean. My first cousin has similar colors to you (probably) so that's why i guessed that.

[Aileron]

Probably something Balkan. Can't really judge just from your profile picture (and in that other link, there isn't much to look at either.) but from what i vaguely see, you look a bit northern shifted than Mediterranean. My first cousin has similar colors to you (probably) so that's why i guessed that.

Thanks

[Sora]

No. You have pseudo Fenno-Nordid look. I'd say Fenno-Nordid + Turanid

[Grieve]

No. You look Nordid

[Aileron]

Thanks