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https://i.imgur.com/GUAMjZ1.jpg
River Plate
01-27-2020, 04:01 PM
East Baltid?
Ymyyakhtakh
01-27-2020, 04:10 PM
Depigmented SSA type, because she has thick lips, a wide nose, a low bridge and root of the nose, a wide root of the nose, high interpupillary distance, and a wide and robust face.
Depigmented SSA (UP) >>>>> depigmented med (Nordid).
https://i.imgur.com/F7dvrnJ.jpg
East Baltid?
Yes, in Coon's scheme East Baltic I think.
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe073.jpg
Viridian1
01-27-2020, 04:48 PM
Savolaxid
Davy Jones's Locker
01-28-2020, 08:27 PM
East Baltic.
Columella
01-28-2020, 08:31 PM
One pic only. Mainly Alpine with a Laponoid/Uralische element.
Ymyyakhtakh
02-01-2020, 02:08 PM
Older photos of this girl (from around 2007):
https://i.imgur.com/RveQGQg.jpg
http://slavanthro.mybb3.ru/viewtopic.php?t=2925
https://i.imgur.com/hmyVpVb.jpg
http://www.elupuu.org/index_veps.php?id=266
She could maybe even pass as Khanty in the first pic. Therefore I think she could even be classified as East Baltid + Uralid.
Karin Mark said that Vepsians are the most characteristic East Baltids (automatic translation, https://antropologia-fizyczna.pl/statystyki-krajow-regionow-populacji/europa/ludy-ugrofinskie-antropologia-fizyczna):
East-Baltic type - it is characterized by a fairly high mesocephalic index, on the brachycephalic border, relatively broad and short face. Roughly equivalent to the Baltic type, and the intermediate and Laponoid fractions of the Subnordic type. The most characteristic representatives are the Vepsians. It is also found in eastern Finland and eastern Estonia, in Latvia, among Izhorians, Ingrian and Votics, partly Karelians and Komi, and among the bordering Russians.
According to Coon East Baltic is Ladogan (Uralische) mixed with Nordic and western Palaeolithic survivors.
(4) Ladogan: I propose to give this name to the descendants of the mesocephalic and brachycephalic forest-dwelling population of northern Europe east of the Baltic in Kammkeramik times.
(a) Neo-Danubian: Strongly mixed with the old Danubian, and to a lesser extent other elements, to form the common peasant type of eastern Europe, with many local variants.
(b) East Baltic: Strongly mixed with Corded, Iron Age Nordic, and western Palaeolithic survivors to form the predominant population of much of Finland and the Baltic States.
The OP girl is basically Uralische. She's not pure Uralische but changed form of type. Unchanged Urlaische type is Khanty, Mansi and Nenets.
Uralische > East Baltic > Neo-Danubian > Borreby > Alpine.
Amended hierarchy:
Uralische > Sub-Uralische > East Baltic > Neo-Danubian > Borreby > Alpine > etc
Nenets/Khanty/Mansi > Mari/Udmurts/Komi-Permyaks/Komi > Finns/Estonians/Karelians/Vepsians > others (Neo-Danubian, Borreby, Alpine, Nordic etc)
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