Classify and passify blonde afghan girl

[Nomansman]

She's a pashtun from kabul(lol, people been ignoring both my threads i made about this woman):

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[Nomansman]

Bump

[kalach]

Depigmented Proto-Iranid.

[Maguzanci]

Is she really Afghan? She looks an ordinary white girl.

[Nomansman]

Is she really Afghan? She looks an ordinary white girl.

Yeah, apparently she is. I got a bit suprised too. Her name is Shabnam mobarez. Some friend of my did a bit research and came to conclusion she's fully kabuli pashtun.

She's a footballer in Denmark(tbh, i didnt knew anything about her until now) and migrated there from Denmark. There isnt much more info on her.

In this video at 0:53, she speaks afghan(pashto): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZ9RFUKgVQ

[Maguzanci]

Yeah, apparently she is. I got a bit suprised too. Her name is Shabnam mobarez. Some friend of my did a bit research and came to conclusion she's fully kabuli pashtun.

She's a footballer in Denmark(tbh, i didnt knew anything about her until now) and migrated there from Denmark. There isnt much more info on her.

In this video at 0:53, she speaks afghan(pashto): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKZ9RFUKgVQ

I assume everyone in Denmark think she is a native Danish? Her DNA results should be interesting to see. Do you have pics of her family?

Whoa she literally migrated to Afghanistan from Denmark....

[Rgvgjhvv]

Amazing

[Kivan]

Nordo-Cromagnid.

[Oghuz]

Irano Nordoid

has been discussed before.

[Laag]

Close to this Pashtun from Coon's plate (an example of the Irano-Afghan Race).
https://theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe187.jpg
FIG. 7, (2 views, photo Gordon T. Bowles) Closely similar to the Syrian desert border tribesman is this Afridi from eastern Afghanistan. Its high, narrow cranial vault, in combination with a great facial and nasal height, and its general cast of cranial features makes this type nearly identical with that of the Corded people who invaded Europe from the east toward the beginning of the third millennium B.C.

[Trouble]

I don't get why people call these people "Irano Nordoid" when pure Nordic phenotypes such as this do not even exist in Iran? Or are extremely rare?

She looks fully Euro, as do many exotic Afghans.

[Oghuz]

I don't get why people call these people "Irano Nordoid" when pure Nordic phenotypes such as this do not even exist in Iran?

You should read this page and see the map.

http://humanphenotypes.net/ProtoNordid.html

[chociprasa]

Iranid. Looks northern Iranian.

[Nomansman]

Its not that i want her to look euro or am i white wannabe(lol, if you seen my classifiction thread, you can clearly see thats not the case), but honestly i think she looks pretty euro too. Can easily pass there. I think people just say nord-iranid because she's not from europe(i dont even like classifictions tbh), although she could easily pass.

Yeah yeah, i know. Afghans really dont pass as whole. But come on, OP can easily pass if classifying her as "Nord-iranid" suggest otherwise....

[Oghuz]

Its not that i want her to look euro or am i white wannabe(lol, if you seen my classifiction thread, you can clearly see thats not the case), but honestly i think she looks pretty euro too. Can easily pass there. I think people just say nord-iranid because she's not from europe(i dont even like classifictions tbh), although she could easily pass.

Yeah yeah, i know. Afghans really dont pass as whole. But come on, OP can easily pass if classifying her as "Nord-iranid" suggest otherwise....

Passing is stupid.

Her genetics are from Iranic race of Asia not Nordic race of Europe. Proto Nordoids were present in Iran hence we get Irano Nordoids today. Just because one may look bit like another race does not mean their genetic make up resulting phenotype changes.

This is still a persian man with Iranic genetics.

http://uupload.ir/files/2jl9_aramin.jpg

[Nomansman]

Passing is stupid.

Her genetics are from Iranic race of Asia not Nordic race of Europe. Proto Nordoids were present in Iran hence we get Irano Nordoids today. Just because one may look bit like another race does not mean their genetic make up resulting phenotype changes.

This is still a persian man with Iranic genetics.

http://uupload.ir/files/2jl9_aramin.jpg

I know shes not similiar to euros genetically. Not even pamiris are. ALso, that guy still looks very non-european. The op can look non-european in some pics, but usually looks very euro.

I dont care much more now about this and if she doesnt even pass, i dont care. Im just glad people are paying attention to my threads.

[Oghuz]

I know shes not similiar to euros genetically. Not even pamiris are. ALso, that guy still looks very non-european. The op can look non-european in some pics, but usually looks very euro.


This has less to do with who looks European and who does not. Proto Nordoid population (with native admixture) stretches from Afghanistan to Scandinavia. In Iranic Plateau that becomes Irano Nordoid.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSBs0tYi_LaVtNkxhth6IUOGiEGT7D LjtrPYDT1P8ghtNvm8cq3

[Maguzanci]

Its not that i want her to look euro or am i white wannabe(lol, if you seen my classifiction thread, you can clearly see thats not the case), but honestly i think she looks pretty euro too. Can easily pass there. I think people just say nord-iranid because she's not from europe(i dont even like classifictions tbh), although she could easily pass.

Yeah yeah, i know. Afghans really dont pass as whole. But come on, OP can easily pass if classifying her as "Nord-iranid" suggest otherwise....

No one thought she is a foreigner in Denmark me thinks.

[Nomansman]

No one thought she is a foreigner in Denmark me thinks.

IDK about that. In some pics she kind of dont look euro really.

But yeah. Thats could had been the case.

[Maguzanci]

IDK about that. In some pics she kind of dont look euro really.

But yeah. Thats could had been the case.

I remember you mentioned in the OP, she used to live in Denmark before moving to Afghanistan?

[Nomansman]

I remember you mentioned in the OP, she used to live in Denmark before moving to Afghanistan?

Nono, she used to live in AFG and then moved to k Denmark

[Maguzanci]

Nono, she used to live in AFG and then moved to k Denmark

Oh ok. Yeah would be interesting to see if locals can tell if she is foreign or not.

[Nomansman]

Oh ok. Yeah would be interesting to see if locals can tell if she is foreign or not.

She can honestly pass in the pic i posted. Like a darker dane, but still pass

[Aileron]

Beatiful some sort of Nordid i guess ?

[Avicenna]

She looks like she would make a really good elf from lord of the rings.

Anyways, she doesn't really stand out among her female peers but she is quite tall and features are very sharp with dark blondish hair, gives an impression she could pass as Danish (which she could ).

https://i.imgur.com/hPjrOzW.jpg


She is obviously fully afghan, I have seen her family too, and she fits in perfectly among them.

[Kyp]

Aryan

Some form of Nordo CM
Can pass as Paleo Atlantid type in Scandinavia (Norway & Denmark especially)

[Nomansman]

Irano-Aryan

Pseudo Paleo Atlantid

looks way more Western than a lot of Bulgarians, Turks etc. who get labelled as Atlantid in this forum

Lol, its crazy despite her genetics.

I can even post a viking looking nuristani about some time, when i get the pics(nuristanis are either like wakhis or kalashis, who both are pretty south asian shifted for non-south asian standards, kalashis even more).

I guess its founder effect.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Aryan

Some form of Nordo CM
Can pass as Paleo Atlantid type in Scandinavia (Norway & Denmark especially)

Why would this horseface be CM or paleo-anything?

https://i.imgur.com/939ZN4I.jpg

[Creoda]

Are you people kidding? She doesn't look European, let alone Scandinavian. Passes as an atypical Southern Euro at most. Dark, black oriental eyes.

https://girlssoccernetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Shabnam-Mobarez.jpg
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.xzufXUSDh0m_xjqaax-nzAHaHa&pid=Api&rs=1

[Nomansman]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/585322978028552208/668697760039698432/image0.png



https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602252074218029056/665638289344036884/image0.jpg


I think second nuristani guy looks kind of afghan than euro, but woman looks super euro(although more euro jew or south italian)

Yeah, i know i know what avg afghans look like. Im just posting pics though

[Nomansman]

Are you people kidding? She doesn't look European, let alone Scandinavian. Passes as an atypical Southern Euro at most. Dark, black oriental eyes.

https://girlssoccernetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Shabnam-Mobarez.jpg
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.xzufXUSDh0m_xjqaax-nzAHaHa&pid=Api&rs=1

You might be right, but if she doesnt even pass well as south euro, what does she pass best as?

[Avicenna]

Are you people kidding? She doesn't look European, let alone Scandinavian. Passes as an atypical Southern Euro at most. Dark, black oriental eyes.

https://girlssoccernetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Shabnam-Mobarez.jpg
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.xzufXUSDh0m_xjqaax-nzAHaHa&pid=Api&rs=1

She can slightly pass off

https://i.imgur.com/RF4hJMm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kupykIA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/SEncV6R.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xEhCVmx.jpg

[Creoda]

You might be right, but if she doesnt even pass well as south euro, what does she pass best as?
I don't know but I would guess something like Turkish.

[Kyp]

Why would this horseface be CM or paleo-anything?

https://i.imgur.com/939ZN4I.jpg

Not a horse face. Back to your yellowfever threads!

[Avicenna]

Lol, its crazy despite her genetics.

I can even post a viking looking nuristani about some time, when i get the pics(nuristanis are either like wakhis or kalashis, who both are pretty south asian shifted for non-south asian standards, kalashis even more).

I guess its founder effect.

I have seen wakhi results and they are identical to ishkashim. Also it's way too early on to be making comments about kalash and nuristanis. I think we have a long way to go. You could say founder effect but why are northern afghans (laghman, kunar, panjsher, nuristan etc) producing such light types ? The lightest afghans are from that region and yet they score the highest south asjan, although lack any east Asian so maybe it balances out.

[Trouble]

Are you people kidding? She doesn't look European, let alone Scandinavian. Passes as an atypical Southern Euro at most. Dark, black oriental eyes.

https://girlssoccernetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Shabnam-Mobarez.jpg
https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.xzufXUSDh0m_xjqaax-nzAHaHa&pid=Api&rs=1

Idiot, this post you made is the definition of anthrotardism. She at least passes in central Europe, definitely southern.

[Trouble]

I have seen wakhi results and they are identical to ishkashim. Also it's way too early on to be making comments about kalash and nuristanis. I think we have a long way to go. You could say founder effect but why are northern afghans (laghman, kunar, panjsher, nuristan etc) producing such light types ? The lightest afghans are from that region and yet they score the highest south asjan, although lack any east Asian so maybe it balances out.

Not founder effect but rather selection to alpine environment

[Nomansman]

I don't know but I would guess something like Turkish.

Ok, i dont think turkish. I seen avg turkish girls IRL and she looks to euro for all of them. Of course more euro looking turks look more euro than her, but she looks more euro than the lightest turkish girl i seen tbh

[Kyp]

I don't know but I would guess something like Turkish.

lol

[Avicenna]

Not founder effect but rather selection to alpine environment

It plays a factor for sure. But why don't Kashmiris or Indians from Himachal Pradesh have the same pheno ? Or pretty much other mountainous region. Also northern afghans don't have that much alpine, it's mainly irano nordoid, so progressive , high headed, sharp features.

[Trouble]

It plays a factor for sure. But why don't Kashmiris or Indians from Himachal Pradesh have the same pheno ? Or pretty much other mountainous region. Also northern afghans don't have that much alpine, it's mainly irano nordoid, so progressive , high headed, sharp features.

They have anywhere from 1.5-2X as much AASI ancestry as Pashtuns do. And Kashmiris already look quite distinct from other Indians.

[Nomansman]

It plays a factor for sure. But why don't Kashmiris or Indians from Himachal Pradesh have the same pheno ? Or pretty much other mountainous region. Also northern afghans don't have that much alpine, it's mainly irano nordoid, so progressive , high headed, sharp features.

I found some half paktia, half pansheri sample getting 14,6% SI as well. Also, youre saying the lightest types hails from there. But we dont know how much they make of all northern afghans. And after even seeing crowd pics of ishkashimis(they didnt look too light on avg), i doubt thats the same case for other northern afghans(+ we havent seen results of all of them. Some even get down to 13% Si, a kabuli pashtun + 7% mong). THeyre probably darker than avg ishkashimis/badakshis. Youre just overreacting their lightness now

[Avicenna]

I found some half paktia, half pansheri sample getting 14,6% SI as well. Also, youre saying the lightest types hails from there. But we dont know how much they make of all northern afghans. And after even seeing crowd pics of ishkashimis(they didnt look too light on avg), i doubt thats the same case for other northern afghans(+ we havent seen results of all of them. Some even get down to 13% Si, a kabuli pashtun + 7% mong). THeyre probably darker than avg ishkashimis/badakshis. Youre just overreacting their lightness now
Are you even understanding what I'm saying ffs

I cba anymore with you

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Why would this horseface be CM or paleo-anything?

https://i.imgur.com/939ZN4I.jpg

Not a horse face. Back to your yellowfever threads!

High facial index = horse face. Low fWHR = horse face. If that's not a horse face then I don't know what is.

I cannot have yellow fever because I'm a yellow Finngolian myself.

[Creoda]

Idiot, this post you made is the definition of anthrotardism. She at least passes in central Europe, definitely southern.
What would you know? Her eyes are distinctly Asian, her eyebrows are odd and her skin is olive brownish, look at the contrast between her fingernails and skin. If she passes in parts of Europe it's because those parts have Asian blood.

[Nomansman]

Are you even understanding what I'm saying ffs

I cba anymore with you

"I have seen wakhi results and they are identical to ishkashim. Also it's way too early on to be making comments about kalash and nuristanis. I think we have a long way to go. You could say founder effect but why are northern afghans (laghman, kunar, panjsher, nuristan etc) producing such light types ? The lightest afghans are from that region and yet they score the highest south asjan, although lack any east Asian so maybe it balances out."

You said the lighrest afghans hails from there. But you havent seen all their results. I just pointed out some afghan being half paktiawal, half pansheri being like other AFG tajiks. As an example there are those east afghans being more like many other afghans than more south asian shifted + we havent seen all results of all eastern afghans. Some nuris can be like pamiris assumingly, while others kalashis. Also, true the lightest types hails from there, but still majority look as dark as rest of AFG. Even ishkashimis from badakhshan with their higher steppe doesnt look super light or euro(more euro/tajik than avg pashtuns though). So i dont think we should go all "wow, eastern afghans are most souht asian shifted and look super light!", when majoritiy dont look super light and more like other afghans + we havent seen results of all eastern/northern afghans

[Nomansman]

Well, apparently the girl is actually 1/4 kapisa pashai and rest kabuli pashtun.

This is her father(1/2 pashai, 1/2 pashtun): https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/600047903137988624/671690887578779658/image0.jpg?width=272&height=300

[Nassbean]

wow she looks fully european I see her passing in north and west europe mainly

[Nomansman]

wow she looks fully european I see her passing in north and west europe mainly

Maybe not england, Denmark and around. But i assume spanish and french is there.

[Nomansman]

wow she looks fully european I see her passing in north and west europe mainly

Maybe not england, Denmark and around. But i assume spanish and french is there.

[Nassbean]

Maybe not england, Denmark and around. But i assume spanish and french is there.

I agree how common is this phenotype in afghanistan ?

[Nomansman]

I agree how common is this phenotype in afghanistan ?

It really shouldnt be common at all. Even some afghans i did show i to said she looks almost not afghan at all. I assume a max 7% looks like her(which is still a high number, considering the number of entire AFG)

[Avicenna]

Well, apparently the girl is actually 1/4 kapisa pashai and rest kabuli pashtun.

This is her father(1/2 pashai, 1/2 pashtun): https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/600047903137988624/671690887578779658/image0.jpg?width=272&height=300

Pashais are native to north east afghanistan and are indistinguishable from pashtuns

[Avicenna]

I agree how common is this phenotype in afghanistan ?

Not that common but her face looks very afghan to me. I have a few female cousins which I'm not gonna post that look strikingly similar to her.

[Avicenna]

I agree how common is this phenotype in afghanistan ?

Depends which region too. For parwan and panjshir she looks quite nornal, for Balkh she looks quite atyoucal.

[Avicenna]

I agree how common is this phenotype in afghanistan ?

Don't listen to nomansman. 7%? Come on man. She ain't even light to begin with. Shes just sharp festured, tall and lighter hair than usual.

Afghan football players

Some are lighter than her, some look very similar to her and others are slightly darker.

https://imgur.com/a/o9LIvCs

Much more than 7%.

Afghan cricket players

https://imgur.com/a/caiw9E4

Her features are perfectly normal. Most anthropologists classified afghans as mixture of Nordics and Meds in terms of measurements and indistinguishable from Nordics of europe.

Truly light folks will be like this no joke

https://imgur.com/a/TUEC7hj

https://imgur.com/a/wdkocLG

[Nassbean]

Don't listen to nomansman. 7%? Come on man. She ain't even light to begin with. Shes just sharp festured, tall and lighter hair than usual.

Afghan football players

Some are lighter than her, some look very similar to her and others are slightly darker.

https://imgur.com/a/o9LIvCs

Much more than 7%.

Afghan cricket players

https://imgur.com/a/caiw9E4

Her features are perfectly normal. Most anthropologists classified afghans as mixture of Nordics and Meds in terms of measurements and indistinguishable from Nordics of europe.

Truly light folks will be like this no joke

https://imgur.com/a/TUEC7hj

https://imgur.com/a/wdkocLG


She still look more euro than them but ok I see thanks

[Nomansman]

Don't listen to nomansman. 7%? Come on man. She ain't even light to begin with. Shes just sharp festured, tall and lighter hair than usual.

Afghan football players

Some are lighter than her, some look very similar to her and others are slightly darker.

https://imgur.com/a/o9LIvCs

Much more than 7%.

Afghan cricket players

https://imgur.com/a/caiw9E4

Her features are perfectly normal. Most anthropologists classified afghans as mixture of Nordics and Meds in terms of measurements and indistinguishable from Nordics of europe.

Truly light folks will be like this no joke

https://imgur.com/a/TUEC7hj

https://imgur.com/a/wdkocLG

Dude, lol, shes on the same level almost as the lighter afghans you posted in terms of looking like euros. Yeah, afghans can easily be lighter than her, but her facial feautures still look strongly euro(although more central euro and even more south as well). No, shes not typical, man. Dont fool yourself. Maybe im wrong here(and by that way yoou can disprove me, post afghan crowds from pansher and nuristani+ pashai areas too. Not individual pics. You can have millions of individual pics, but not millions of crowd pics with many euro looking afghans, as crowd pics show the more avg faces of afghans)



Edit: here are pics of pansheris: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTGXHtdDklieL8zSOP7eAmUuO5QaA%3A1580226 081919&sa=1&ei=IVYwXtvaN5H3qwHgoaXYDA&q=pansher+people&oq=pansher+people&gs_l=img.3..35i39.79.5856..6045...3.0..2.441.2499. 13j3j3j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i362i39j0j0i131j0i67j0i30j0i19.SaCqP q47C3k&ved=0ahUKEwib75vy0KbnAhWR-yoKHeBQCcsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_

I can admit that there will occasionally pop up one to three euro looking guys amongst the crowds. And im not talking abut lightness, but rather facial feautures. OP look to euro for the avg pansheri.


https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNRkgwvQsvU0bSdqRN9TzR_l9aLZ4A%3A1580226 725860&sa=1&ei=pVgwXsWKNLD6qwH8h4LwBg&q=panjshir+people+crowds&oq=panjshir+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...6870.10089..10211...0.0..0.147.1476.1 9j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i30j0i8i30.G70UXSC kq90&ved=0ahUKEwiF8aKl06bnAhUw_SoKHfyDAG4Q4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgdii=xn3Z7edgmT1gzM:&imgrc=spaOYrcKzvdECM:




Badaskhan:



https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNR9Yz2yQeo0ERbbzO_B9Diuo8Bsfg%3A1580226 777559&sa=1&ei=2VgwXr7UIcysrgTLnZHQDQ&q=badakhshan+people+crowds&oq=badakhshan+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...105818.108989..109238...0.0..0.81.845 .12......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i8i7i30.X2GnKmryla k&ved=0ahUKEwj-pPa906bnAhVMlosKHctOBNoQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_




Also, im probably wrong about the numbers being 7%. Its maybe at max 14%

[Avicenna]

She still look more euro than them but ok I see thanks

Really? I don't see it tbh

[Avicenna]

Dude, lol, shes on the same level almost as the lighter afghans you posted in terms of looking like euros. Yeah, afghans can easily be lighter than her, but her facial feautures still look strongly euro(although more central euro and even more south as well). No, shes not typical, man. Dont fool yourself. Maybe im wrong here(and by that way yoou can disprove me, post afghan crowds from pansher and nuristani+ pashai areas too. Not individual pics. You can have millions of individual pics, but not millions of crowd pics with many euro looking afghans, as crowd pics show the more avg faces of afghans)
No way is she on par with the lighter afghans i posted, are you trippin?? You are so fixated on athro words that's it amusing. Why should I post crowd pics when I don't know their ethnicity plus its too far away to conclude a phenotype. All the players I posted from the football one was from national team + regional teams within afg. The cricket team is the latest one which I got from a previous thread.

[Avicenna]

Dude, lol, shes on the same level almost as the lighter afghans you posted in terms of looking like euros. Yeah, afghans can easily be lighter than her, but her facial feautures still look strongly euro(although more central euro and even more south as well). No, shes not typical, man. Dont fool yourself. Maybe im wrong here(and by that way yoou can disprove me, post afghan crowds from pansher and nuristani+ pashai areas too. Not individual pics. You can have millions of individual pics, but not millions of crowd pics with many euro looking afghans, as crowd pics show the more avg faces of afghans)



Edit: here are pics of pansheris: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTGXHtdDklieL8zSOP7eAmUuO5QaA%3A1580226 081919&sa=1&ei=IVYwXtvaN5H3qwHgoaXYDA&q=pansher+people&oq=pansher+people&gs_l=img.3..35i39.79.5856..6045...3.0..2.441.2499. 13j3j3j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i362i39j0j0i131j0i67j0i30j0i19.SaCqP q47C3k&ved=0ahUKEwib75vy0KbnAhWR-yoKHeBQCcsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_

I can admit that there will occasionally pop up one to three euro looking guys amongst the crowds. And im not talking abut lightness, but rather facial feautures. OP look to euro for the avg pansheri.


https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNRkgwvQsvU0bSdqRN9TzR_l9aLZ4A%3A1580226 725860&sa=1&ei=pVgwXsWKNLD6qwH8h4LwBg&q=panjshir+people+crowds&oq=panjshir+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...6870.10089..10211...0.0..0.147.1476.1 9j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i30j0i8i30.G70UXSC kq90&ved=0ahUKEwiF8aKl06bnAhUw_SoKHfyDAG4Q4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgdii=xn3Z7edgmT1gzM:&imgrc=spaOYrcKzvdECM:




Badaskhan:



https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNR9Yz2yQeo0ERbbzO_B9Diuo8Bsfg%3A1580226 777559&sa=1&ei=2VgwXr7UIcysrgTLnZHQDQ&q=badakhshan+people+crowds&oq=badakhshan+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...105818.108989..109238...0.0..0.81.845 .12......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i8i7i30.X2GnKmryla k&ved=0ahUKEwj-pPa906bnAhVMlosKHctOBNoQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_




Also, im probably wrong about the numbers being 7%. Its maybe at max 14%

Lmao according to you she looks on par with these 3 people in terms of lightness ? Hahaha

https://i.imgur.com/YufFmyN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CXUfXL7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AKkh7Q2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/894swgz.jpg

[Avicenna]

Dude, lol, shes on the same level almost as the lighter afghans you posted in terms of looking like euros. Yeah, afghans can easily be lighter than her, but her facial feautures still look strongly euro(although more central euro and even more south as well). No, shes not typical, man. Dont fool yourself. Maybe im wrong here(and by that way yoou can disprove me, post afghan crowds from pansher and nuristani+ pashai areas too. Not individual pics. You can have millions of individual pics, but not millions of crowd pics with many euro looking afghans, as crowd pics show the more avg faces of afghans)



Edit: here are pics of pansheris: https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNTGXHtdDklieL8zSOP7eAmUuO5QaA%3A1580226 081919&sa=1&ei=IVYwXtvaN5H3qwHgoaXYDA&q=pansher+people&oq=pansher+people&gs_l=img.3..35i39.79.5856..6045...3.0..2.441.2499. 13j3j3j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.....10..35i362i39j0j0i131j0i67j0i30j0i19.SaCqP q47C3k&ved=0ahUKEwib75vy0KbnAhWR-yoKHeBQCcsQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_

I can admit that there will occasionally pop up one to three euro looking guys amongst the crowds. And im not talking abut lightness, but rather facial feautures. OP look to euro for the avg pansheri.


https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNRkgwvQsvU0bSdqRN9TzR_l9aLZ4A%3A1580226 725860&sa=1&ei=pVgwXsWKNLD6qwH8h4LwBg&q=panjshir+people+crowds&oq=panjshir+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...6870.10089..10211...0.0..0.147.1476.1 9j1......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i30j0i8i30.G70UXSC kq90&ved=0ahUKEwiF8aKl06bnAhUw_SoKHfyDAG4Q4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgdii=xn3Z7edgmT1gzM:&imgrc=spaOYrcKzvdECM:




Badaskhan:



https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=657&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNR9Yz2yQeo0ERbbzO_B9Diuo8Bsfg%3A1580226 777559&sa=1&ei=2VgwXr7UIcysrgTLnZHQDQ&q=badakhshan+people+crowds&oq=badakhshan+people+crowds&gs_l=img.3...105818.108989..109238...0.0..0.81.845 .12......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......35i39j0i19j0i8i30i19j0i8i7i30.X2GnKmryla k&ved=0ahUKEwj-pPa906bnAhVMlosKHctOBNoQ4dUDCAc&uact=5#imgrc=_




Also, im probably wrong about the numbers being 7%. Its maybe at max 14%

From those google pics a good amount have "euro " type fwarures, moreso than shabnam for sure.

Why are you obsessed with crowd pics ? It's obvious crowd pics aren't really helpful since most people are too far away to even see their pheno. You are annoying me now.

[Nomansman]

No way is she on par with the lighter afghans i posted, are you trippin?? You are so fixated on athro words that's it amusing. Why should I post crowd pics when I don't know their ethnicity plus its too far away to conclude a phenotype. All the players I posted from the football one was from national team + regional teams within afg. The cricket team is the latest one which I got from a previous thread.

Theyre not THAT far away, man. If you use a computer and look good after, you can see the avg pansheri dont look as euro as her. And even the avg afghan in your pics didnt look as euro as her(apart from some individuals) in the sports club pics

Yeah, shes on the same level as looking as euros as the lighter afghans(she just looks as south euro or central euro even as the ligther afghans look like northern euros).

[Nomansman]

Lmao according to you she looks on par with these 3 people in terms of lightness ? Hahaha

https://i.imgur.com/YufFmyN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/CXUfXL7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/AKkh7Q2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/894swgz.jpg

You dont get me. I didnt say she was on the same "lightness" as the "afghans(isnt the last guy from TJK though?). I said she looks as euro as the lighter afghans(can pass as well in south europe and maybe central europe too as the lighter ones can pass in england and scandinavia).

And yeah, its no suprise that some of the afghans pass better europe than she does. But does the AVG afghan do that? Simply no

[Avicenna]

Theyre not THAT far away, man. If you use a computer and look good after, you can see the avg pansheri dont look as euro as her. And even the avg afghan in your pics didnt look as euro as her(apart from some individuals).

Yeah, shes on the same level as looking as euros as the lighter afghans(she just looks as south euro or central euro even as the ligther afghans look like northern euros).

Wait wait, so she looks more euro than the afghans i posted right ? But not more northern/eastern euro than the light afghans.....okay but who said the afghans i posted were light ? They your average afghans and she fits in pergedtly. Look at her then look at these guys

https://imgur.com/a/9xFnWn6

I'm not claiming they look more euro than her but rather their facial features are similar. Thin straight eyebrows, square jaw plus long face.



These guys are lighter than her

https://imgur.com/a/XI1Ln3y

They have light eyes too

[Avicenna]

You dont get me. I didnt say she was on the same "lightness" as the "afghans(isnt the last guy from TJK though?). I said she looks as euro as the lighter afghans(can pass as well in south europe and maybe central europe too as the lighter ones can pass in england and scandinavia).

And yeah, its no suprise that some of the afghans pass better europe than she does. But does the AVG afghan do that? Simply no
Quote me where i said she looked like your regular afghan ? Have you even been to panjshir ? How many panjshiris do you know ? Why do you think you know what afghans look like just because you are one ? I said she looked NORMAL for panjshiris and region around it. That doesn't mean every afghan will look like her.

[Nomansman]

Wait wait, so she looks more euro than the afghans i posted right ? But not more northern/eastern euro than the light afghans.....okay but who said the afghans i posted were light ? They your average afghans and she fits in pergedtly. Look at her then look at these guys

https://imgur.com/a/9xFnWn6

I'm not claiming they look more euro than her but rather their facial features are similar. Thin straight eyebrows, square jaw plus long face.



These guys are lighter than her

https://imgur.com/a/XI1Ln3y

They have light eyes too

But thats what im saying. Im not even talking about lightness but passing as euro. In some pics she looks even more euro than others and specially the one i posted. Yeah, there are individual afghans who look more euro than her and really many looking lighter than her(but also less euro). Crowd pics just dont have lighter afghans but all kind of afghans. She looks clearly more euro than the avg afghan guy does. There are other afghans passing better in europe than her.

My point is: She looks too euro for the avg afghan. Other afghans look of course even more euro and lighter, i never said otherwise

[aherne]

She looks pure "Indo-European" (=Aryan). Something that must be extremely rare there, but expected to occur once in a while

[Nomansman]

She looks pure "Indo-European" (=Aryan). Something that must be extremely rare there, but expected to occur once in a while

Yeah, really not common, but it can happen. I assume she can pass in your country as well?

[Avicenna]

She looks pure "Indo-European" (=Aryan). Something that must be extremely rare there, but expected to occur once in a while

It's honestly not that rare.

https://imgur.com/a/zmDF1AO

[Lioncourt]

Typical Afghan, right. Looks like a misplaced Romanian girl in a Gypsy village on this photo of the national team.

https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.585360.1560163759!/image/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.JPG

[Duffmannn]

I seriously doubt she´s afghan or full afghan.

[Nomansman]

I seriously doubt she´s afghan or full afghan.

She apparently is though. 3/4 pashtun and 1/4 pashai.

I know. Its a bit hard to believe that. It really isnt common

[Avicenna]

Typical Afghan, right. Looks like a misplaced Romanian girl in a Gypsy village on this photo of the national team.

https://www.stripes.com/polopoly_fs/1.585360.1560163759!/image/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/landscape_900/image.JPG

Bug off you Turkic admixed turd

[Avicenna]

Her family , do not quote

https://i.imgur.com/CMYJTmB.jpg

[Nomansman]

her brother on left(if not boyfriend or whatever) kind of looks euro too

Rest just looks more like native afghans

[Duffmannn]

She apparently is though. 3/4 pashtun and 1/4 pashai.

I know. Its a bit hard to believe that. It really isnt common

I have a full iranian friend that is light redhead (beard and hair) and can pass unnoticed as irish.

But Iran has a stronger aryan element than Afghanistan, which have many mixes.

Does her family come from semi-isolated regions like Nuristan?

I have readen that this region is famous by producing sometimes this phenos.

[Avicenna]

https://i.imgur.com/l5QgtHE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NDFJsh8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fBYvxsn.jpg

[Nomansman]

I have a full iranian friend that is light redhead (beard and hair) and can pass unnoticed as irish.

But Iran has a stronger aryan element than Afghanistan, which have many mixes.

Does her family come from semi-isolated regions like Nuristan?

I have readen that this region is famous by producing sometimes this phenos.

Autosomally, afghans are more "aryans" than iranians are(but also more bmac + aasi though), so its not really true

and im not sure. But the fact that she's only 1/4 pashai makes me think her pashai side was less isolated types

[Avicenna]

her brother on left(if not boyfriend or whatever) kind of looks euro too

Rest just looks more like native afghans
Its her brother

[Avicenna]

I have a full iranian friend that is light redhead (beard and hair) and can pass unnoticed as irish.

But Iran has a stronger aryan element than Afghanistan, which have many mixes.

Does her family come from semi-isolated regions like Nuristan?

I have readen that this region is famous by producing sometimes this phenos.

Iran has a stronger Aryan element ? Erm no my friend. Afghans have high steppe admxiture, much moreso than iranians.

[Nomansman]

https://i.imgur.com/l5QgtHE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NDFJsh8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/fBYvxsn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/l5QgtHE.jpg

I feel like one of the blond girls in the pic is danish


But lol. This whole time i actually thought she was just some white girl. Not a 3/4 pashtun, 1/4 pashai from kapisa

[Avicenna]

Thats probably true,

and im not sure. But the fact that she's only 1/4 pashai makes me think her pashai side was less isolated types

Wow man. So when someone underestimates afghans south Asian affinity you turn into some professor jumping at every opportunity, but the minute someone underestimates afghans Aryan affinity your response is "probably true ". Holy fuck man. Wow.

[Duffmannn]

Iran has a stronger Aryan element ? Erm no my friend. Afghans have high steppe admxiture, much moreso than iranians.

But Iran has more isolated regions where this element is less mixed seems.

I´m not expert on this, but that´s my impression.

Afghans also have way higher mongoloid or dravidian imput than mainstream iranian, not to mention some isolated regions.

Afghanistan was a crossing-way of cultures, nations and races through history, the Silk Way. (There was even an european greek kingdom there)

[Nomansman]

Wow man. So when someone underestimates afghans south Asian affinity you turn into some professor jumping at every opportunity, but the minute someone underestimates afghans Aryan affinity your response is "probably true ". Holy fuck man. Wow.

Dude, i changed my comment already,

thought he meant looks only

Calm your tits, princess

[dududud]

Neolithic european looks more european and native.

[Avicenna]

https://i.imgur.com/l5QgtHE.jpg

I feel like one of the blond girls in the pic is danish


But lol. This whole time i actually thought she was just some white girl. Not a 3/4 pashtun, 1/4 pashai from kapisa

Afghanistan is vastly mulit ethnic. Among multi ethnic afghans like the womens football team she sticks out a little yes, but that's only because the national team contains so much Turkic admxied tajiks, urban tajiks who can be quite dark etc. Put her among panjshiris, laghmanis, nuristanis and you will see she won't stick out as much. I'm honestly doubting Your sincerity and even questioning if you are even afghan.

[Nomansman]

But Iran has more isolated regions where this element is less mixed seems.

I´m not expert on this, but that´s my impression.

Afghans also have way higher mongoloid or dravidian imput than mainstream iranian, not to mention some isolated regions.

Afghanistan was a crossing-way of cultures, nations and races through history, the Silk Way. (There was even an european greek kingdom there)

Many iranians can have as much "dravidian" as afghans(but those would just be east iranians), but yeah. Mongoloid input is a lot higher in AFG overall than iran(apart from north east regions in iran). Suprisingly enough, i seen some pretty mong admixed afghans being pretty pale ironically.

But yeah. Iranians as whole have less aasi(thats the "dravidian" i assume), more bmac and more iran chacolithic(some component high in west asians and lower in most afghans) than afghans do + lower mong

[Nomansman]

Afghanistan is vastly mulit ethnic. Among multi ethnic afghans like the womens football team she sticks out a little yes, but that's only because the national team contains so much Turkic admxied tajiks, urban tajiks who can be quite dark etc. Put her among panjshiris, laghmanis, nuristanis and you will see she won't stick out as much. I'm honestly doubting Your sincerity and even questioning if you are even afghan.

Oh god, dont tell me we're going there again, lol

I already did the pic thing

[Avicenna]

But Iran has more isolated regions where this element is less mixed seems.

I´m not expert on this, but that´s my impression.

Afghans also have way higher mongoloid or dravidian imput than mainstream iranian, not to mention some isolated regions.

Afghanistan was a crossing-way of cultures, nations and races through history, the Silk Way. (There was even an european greek kingdom there)

Not to sound rude but you honestly don't know what you are talking about.

Firstly isolated regions ? Afghanistan have more isolates regions than whole of iran, nuristan, pamir, badakshan, pashtun rural regions. Basically most of Afghanistan is quite isolated given its mountainous terrain.

Secondly, Dravidian? You mean ASI admixture which accounts to at most just less than 10%...which doesn't come from direct admixture but through the IVC people's thousands of years ago. There is also Alot of grey area within that but I'm not going to dwell on that.

Thirdly, how common are light pigmented Iranians ? Look at the Iran football team or basketball team or most politicians, actors etc and you will see it isn't common.

If you are concerned about Dravidian among afghans then i suggest you look into the affinity Iranians have with southwest Asians such as bedouins etc. Some even have African admixture too.

[Avicenna]

Many iranians can have as much "dravidian" as afghans(but those would just be east iranians), but yeah. Mongoloid input is a lot higher in AFG overall than iran(apart from north east regions in iran). Suprisingly enough, i seen some pretty mong admixed afghans being pretty pale ironically.

But yeah. Iranians as whole have less aasi(thats the "dravidian" i assume), more bmac and more iran chacolithic(some component high in west asians and lower in most afghans) than afghans do + lower mong
They don't have more bmac ffs !!! Are you kidding me? They have hajji firuz and ganj dareh instead of ivc and bmac.

[Nomansman]

Not to sound rude but you honestly don't know what you are talking about.

Firstly isolated regions ? Afghanistan have more isolates regions than whole of iran, nuristan, pamir, badakshan, pashtun rural regions. Basically most of Afghanistan is quite isolated given its mountainous terrain.

Secondly, Dravidian? You mean ASI admixture which accounts to at most just less than 10%...which doesn't come from direct admixture but through the IVC people's thousands of years ago. There is also Alot of grey area within that but I'm not going to dwell on that.

Thirdly, how common are light pigmented Iranians ? Look at the Iran football team or basketball team or most politicians, actors etc and you will see it isn't common.

Actually....i wouldnt say less than 10%. I also thought that was the case when i looked at sein's modellings, until i realised he could had used more aasi shifted bmac samples. I with help from some other afghans did a modelling on afghans with less aasi bmac samples(still had aasi though, but as low as iranians) and using east asian references as well, we turned out to have higher amount of aasi S(slightly though)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669845059616636929/669845894786711562/unknown.png?width=384&height=428


The ancestrial south indian is just the aasi component and the bmac sample a less aasi shifted bmac sample. It still contains a tiny bit aasi, so 50% bmac should give 1-0,8% aasi

[Nomansman]

They don't have more bmac ffs !!! Are you kidding me? They have hajji firuz and ganj dareh instead of ivc and bmac.

OK FUCKING SORRY CALM THE FUCK DOWN

I MEANT HAJJI FIRUZ AND GANJ DAREH

MY BAAAAAD!

Also, i meant less bmac. Writing more was a mistake

[Avicenna]

Actually....i wouldnt say less than 10%. I also thought that was the case when i looked at sein's modellings, until i realised he could had used more aasi shifted bmac samples. I with help from some other afghans did a modelling on afghans with less aasi bmac samples(still had aasi though) and using east asian references as well, we turned out to have higher amount of aasi S.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669845059616636929/669845894786711562/unknown.png?width=384&height=428


The ancestrial south indian is just the aasi component and the bmac sample a less aasi shifted bmac sample. It still contains a tiny bit aasi, so 50% bmac should give 1-0,8% aasi

Lol are you forgetting when I added the ASI trace amounts from the ivc and bmac samples ? Lol..looks you need to refresh your memory. You seem to be obsessed with showing afghans having higher ASI . Shown your true colours .

[Avicenna]

OK FUCKING SORRY CALM THE FUCK DOWN

I MEANT HAJJI FIRUZ AND GANJ DAREH

MY BAAAAAD!

Also, i meant less bmac. Writing more was a mistake

No it just shows you don't know what you are talking about . Iranians don't score any bmac , atleast non eastern Iranians for the most part.

[Nomansman]

Lol are you forgetting when I added the ASI trace amounts from the ivc and bmac samples ? Lol..looks you need to refresh your memory. You seem to be obsessed with showing afghans having higher ASI . Shown your true colours .

Thanks :thumb001:

[Avicenna]

Actually....i wouldnt say less than 10%. I also thought that was the case when i looked at sein's modellings, until i realised he could had used more aasi shifted bmac samples. I with help from some other afghans did a modelling on afghans with less aasi bmac samples(still had aasi though, but as low as iranians) and using east asian references as well, we turned out to have higher amount of aasi S(slightly though)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669845059616636929/669845894786711562/unknown.png?width=384&height=428


The ancestrial south indian is just the aasi component and the bmac sample a less aasi shifted bmac sample. It still contains a tiny bit aasi, so 50% bmac should give 1-0,8% aasi

Your maths is amusing me. My head actually hurts with the amount of times I have repeated myself.

[Nomansman]

Your maths is amusing me. My head actually hurts with the amount of times I have repeated myself.

:thumb001::thumb001::thumb001:

[Avicenna]

Thanks :thumb001:

Thats okay hadouken

[Nomansman]

Thats okay hadouken

Lol, seriously??

You cant pull the hadouken card on me any longer. ALready showed you my pics. Youre just calling me hadouken because youre pissed, you dont have actual any good reason to.


Also, if i REALLY was hadouken, why would i post iraqi kurd samples with higher SI?

Lol, youre proabbly myanthro though

[Avicenna]

Actually....i wouldnt say less than 10%. I also thought that was the case when i looked at sein's modellings, until i realised he could had used more aasi shifted bmac samples. I with help from some other afghans did a modelling on afghans with less aasi bmac samples(still had aasi though, but as low as iranians) and using east asian references as well, we turned out to have higher amount of aasi S(slightly though)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669845059616636929/669845894786711562/unknown.png?width=384&height=428


The ancestrial south indian is just the aasi component and the bmac sample a less aasi shifted bmac sample. It still contains a tiny bit aasi, so 50% bmac should give 1-0,8% aasi

Pashtuns:

Karlani Pashtun, Central Highlands

37.35% Steppe_MLBA_East
26.05% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
25.30% Seh_Gabi_ChL
4.35% AASI
3.60% Bustan_BA
3.35% Mongola

"distance%=0.1728 / distance=0.001728"

Batanri Pashtun, Nomadic

30.05% Steppe_MLBA_East
24.45% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
16.70% Sappali_Tepe_BA
13.55% Seh_Gabi_ChL
7.35% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
4.20% AASI
3.70% Mongola

"distance%=0.2085 / distance=0.002085"

Sarbani Pashtun, Southwestern plateau

55.40% Sappali_Tepe_BA
26.10% Steppe_MLBA_East
8.65% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
5.60% AASI
4.25% Mongola

"distance%=0.2217 / distance=0.002217"


From what I remember the bmac sample above had 3% asi. So that amounts to less than 1% ASI from the bmac sample, plus the ivc sample ASI which is a few % asi. Add them all on top of ASI and you get between 7-10%. Rest my case.

Look at these fits then compare it to yours ......looll

[Avicenna]

Lol, seriously??

You cant pull the hadouken card on me any longer. ALready showed you my pics. Youre just calling me hadouken because youre pissed, you dont have actual any good reason to.


Also, if i REALLY was hadouken, why would i post iraqi kurd samples with higher SI?

Lol, youre proabbly myanthro though

You have deep issues which I feel you need to address away from these forums man.

[Carlito's Way]

Don't listen to the people who say she doesn't look European because she does, in America she blends in perfectly among white Americans and I wouldve assumed (trust me, I am very picky when it comes to who can pass as white in America because I live here) she was a British/Germanic typical mix White American girl

I guess the people who say she doesn't look European have inferiority complex because they can't see other brown folks pass in Europe when 99% of their own population can't (this is about the non-whites here claiming she cant pass in Europe)
I would never guess her to be from the Middle East, South Asia, North Africa etc, maybe Turkish because many Turkish people actually look very European as well

Ive notice many Afghans can look very European or have more people who look Northern/Central Euros like this girl compared to Middle Easterners and North Africans
Very interesting to see

[Nomansman]

Pashtuns:

Karlani Pashtun, Central Highlands

37.35% Steppe_MLBA_East
26.05% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
25.30% Seh_Gabi_ChL
4.35% AASI
3.60% Bustan_BA
3.35% Mongola

"distance%=0.1728 / distance=0.001728"

Batanri Pashtun, Nomadic

30.05% Steppe_MLBA_East
24.45% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
16.70% Sappali_Tepe_BA
13.55% Seh_Gabi_ChL
7.35% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA1
4.20% AASI
3.70% Mongola

"distance%=0.2085 / distance=0.002085"

Sarbani Pashtun, Southwestern plateau

55.40% Sappali_Tepe_BA
26.10% Steppe_MLBA_East
8.65% Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2
5.60% AASI
4.25% Mongola

"distance%=0.2217 / distance=0.002217"


From what I remember the bmac sample above had 3% asi. So that amounts to less than 1% ASI from the bmac sample, plus the ivc sample ASI which is a few % asi. Add them all on top of ASI and you get between 7-10%. Rest my case.

dude, shahr e shokteh ba2 gets 30% SI on HW. It should definetly get more than 3 aasi, since desis gets as much aasi as shahr e sokteh 2.(however, shar e sokteh gets 56% baloch).

Also, sappali tepe is bmac samples from TJK(Dzarkhuzistan). I dont know if he used individual sample or avg. Some of the individual sappali tepe samples get 0% aasi, while some even as much as modern day afghans. But im pretty sure avg sappali sample should get as much aasi as avg tajikis.

And yeah, i have hw results of all the samples.

[Nomansman]

You have deep issues which I feel you need to address away from these forums man.

Myanthro, stop

You literally cant point finger at me and say im hadouken when i passed your pic test. Even shelati doesnt believe im hadouken anymore

[lameduck]

Not to sound rude but you honestly don't know what you are talking about.

Firstly isolated regions ? Afghanistan have more isolates regions than whole of iran, nuristan, pamir, badakshan, pashtun rural regions. Basically most of Afghanistan is quite isolated given its mountainous terrain.

Secondly, Dravidian? You mean ASI admixture which accounts to at most just less than 10%...which doesn't come from direct admixture but through the IVC people's thousands of years ago. There is also Alot of grey area within that but I'm not going to dwell on that.

Thirdly, how common are light pigmented Iranians ? Look at the Iran football team or basketball team or most politicians, actors etc and you will see it isn't common.

If you are concerned about Dravidian among afghans then i suggest you look into the affinity Iranians have with southwest Asians such as bedouins etc. Some even have African admixture too.

If you go by objective researches on pigmentation ,than most middle east isn't even very significantly lighter than IVC pops let alone Afghans , but these reseraches are low resolution meaning they put large ballpark of human skintone in same range, personally I would say afghans are on par with northern west asians but northern west asians are stable population with over 90% west eurasian genetics so they have less complex variations and appear lighter in very large crowds because of homogeneity.
Anyways one must be more focused on things that can be achieved through hardwork rather than things that are not in ones hand ,but still these are anthrofora ,stuff like this as academic value here.

[Avicenna]

dude, shahr e shokteh ba2 gets 30% SI on HW. It should definetly get more than 3 aasi, since desis gets as much aasi as shahr e sokteh 2.(however, shar e sokteh gets 56% baloch).

Also, sappali tepe is bmac samples from TJK(Dzarkhuzistan). I dont know if he used individual sample or avg. Some of the individual sappali tepe samples get 0% aasi, while some even as much as modern day afghans. But im pretty sure avg sappali sample should get as much aasi as avg tajikis.

And yeah, i have hw results of all the samples.

Oh my god. Firstly hw south Indian is half western eurasian, do you need to see the spreadsheet or dobioi have it already ? So it's 15% asi . The breakdown of shahr sokhta 2 was 17%, so it's actually higher .

Are you good at maths or do you need me to do it for you ? 17% of a whole 100% shahr shokhta 2 is ASI . The batanri and karlani have it at 25%. So it's a quarter of 17% which is..........4.25%. The same thing applies to bmac samples. The breakdown sein used is different to hw so it's useless to compare .

[Trouble]

Extremely unlikely that nomansman is Hadouken. I am familiar with his beliefs-nomansman's perspective is starkly different from his.

[Nomansman]

Don't listen to the people who say she doesn't look European because she does, in America she blends in perfectly among white Americans and I wouldve assumed (trust me, I am very picky when it comes to who can pass as white in America because I live here) she was a British/Germanic typical mix White American girl

I guess the people who say she doesn't look European have inferiority complex because they can't see other brown folks pass in Europe when 99% of their own population can't (this is about the non-whites here claiming she cant pass in Europe)
I would never guess her to be from the Middle East, South Asia, North Africa etc, maybe Turkish because many Turkish people actually look very European as well

Ive notice many Afghans can look very European or have more people who look Northern/Central Euros like this girl compared to Middle Easterners and North Africans
Very interesting to see

Yeah, a couple of afghans can pass as euros. I seen one afg tajik guy who looks like a dark haired danish/english.

But in many pics she looks more south euro to me

[Avicenna]

If you go by objective researches on pigmentation ,than most middle east isn't even very significantly lighter than IVC pops let alone Afghans , but these reseraches are low resolution meaning they put large ballpark of human skintone in same range, personally I would say afghans are on par with northern west asians but northern west asians are stable population with over 90% west eurasian genetics so they have less complex variations and appear lighter in very large crowds because of homogeneity.
Anyways one must be more focused on things that can be achieved through hardwork rather than things that are not in ones hand ,but still these are anthrofora ,stuff like this as academic value here.

I actually agree with this , northern west Asians are much more homogeneous for sure

[Avicenna]

Extremely unlikely that nomansman is Hadouken. I am familiar with his beliefs-nomansman's perspective is starkly different from his.

I'm just teasing him man don't worry lol

[Avicenna]

Myanthro, stop

You literally cant point finger at me and say im hadouken when i passed your pic test. Even shelati doesnt believe im hadouken anymore

Really ?

[Nomansman]

Oh my god. Firstly hw south Indian is half western eurasian, do you need to see the spreadsheet or dobioi have it already ? So it's 15% asi . The breakdown of shahr sokhta 2 was 17%, so it's actually higher .

Are you good at maths or do you need me to do it for you ? 17% of a whole 100% shahr shokhta 2 is ASI . The batanri and karlani have it at 25%. So it's a quarter of 17% which is..........4.25%. The same thing applies to bmac samples. The breakdown sein used is different to hw so it's useless to compare .

what about the S aasi sample in the modellings i posted?

[Nomansman]

Really ?

Uh yeah.
Lol. You were the one to seem them in PMs i send to you.

You never did that with me actually. So im still not sure if youre myanthro or not

[Avicenna]

Uh yeah.
Lol. You were the one to seem them in PMs i send to you.

You never did that with me actually. So im still not sure if youre myanthro or not

And I'm not going to so keep guessing

[Avicenna]

what about the S aasi sample in the modellings i posted?

Which ones ??

You need to check the fit too you know...a fit less than 2 is good . Your one is between 2 and 4 which isn't useful .

[Nomansman]

And I'm not going to so keep guessing

Ok myanthro, thats fine

[Avicenna]

Ok myanthro, thats fine

Ask the moderators to check my IP address . Feel free .

[Nomansman]

Ask the moderators to check my IP address . Feel free .

Im not satisfied ip-adresses, specially the fact that people can change them, so it seems like theyre from different places.

Now im honestly interested. You can just pass the pic test like i did with you. You can send me your pics through pm.

Since you arent myanthro anyway, it should be easy

[Oghuz]

She looks pure "Indo-European" (=Aryan). Something that must be extremely rare there, but expected to occur once in a while

Irano Nordoid type is not that rare. From my own experience it (mixed with Iranian type) can be somewhere around 5-8 % in all Iranic countries. Purest form like proto nordoid is off-course lesser in numbers but still very much present.

This is Iranian under17 soccer team practicing. Both boys on right are persians.

https://i0.wp.com/www.teammelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IRAN-U17-TRAINING-2017-INDIA.jpg?fit=960%2C576&ssl=1

[Nomansman]

Irano Nordoid type is not that rare. From my own experience it (mixed with Iranian type) can be somewhere around 5-8 % in all Iranic countries. Purest form like proto nordoid is off-course lesser in numbers but still very much present.

This is Iranian under17 soccer team practicing. Both boys on right are persians.

https://i0.wp.com/www.teammelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IRAN-U17-TRAINING-2017-INDIA.jpg?fit=960%2C576&ssl=1


That....sounds like the definetion of rare

[Oghuz]

That....sounds like the definetion of rare

minority not rare.

White South Africans are not rare (7 %) in South Africa. They are a minority.

[Nomansman]

minority not rare.

White South Africans are not rare (7 %) in South Africa. They are a minority.

Rare is what to you then?

Rare to me means that something exist, but is very small in numbers and is not easy to find(like 5-8%. those 5-8% can be found, but are still VERY VERY uncommon)

[Oghuz]

Rare to me means

to you yes

[xripkan]

So this is how ancient Scythians were looking!

[aherne]

So this is how ancient Scythians were looking!

https://i0.wp.com/www.teammelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IRAN-U17-TRAINING-2017-INDIA.jpg?fit=960%2C576&ssl=1

That blonde guy on the right would have passed. However, if you see random pictures of Afghans, Aryan influence occurs in less than 1%: much more common in Tajiks, Nurestanis and Wakhi than Pushtuns...

[Trouble]

https://i0.wp.com/www.teammelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IRAN-U17-TRAINING-2017-INDIA.jpg?fit=960%2C576&ssl=1

That blonde guy on the right would have passed. However, if you see random pictures of Afghans, Aryan influence occurs in less than 1%: much more common in Tajiks, Nurestanis and Wakhi than Pushtuns...

No you idiot, there is "aryan influence" in all of them otherwise they would appear rather different as a whole. Closer to Baloch.

[Avicenna]

......

[Avicenna]

https://i0.wp.com/www.teammelli.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/IRAN-U17-TRAINING-2017-INDIA.jpg?fit=960%2C576&ssl=1

That blonde guy on the right would have passed. However, if you see random pictures of Afghans, Aryan influence occurs in less than 1%: much more common in Tajiks, Nurestanis and Wakhi than Pushtuns...

Less than 1%? No way man . I can take random pictures of balkanites too and show Aryan influence being rare. From a distance alot of features don't show up .

This is just from Afghanistan cricket team players , senior and juniors , the amount of light eyes are quite common .

Look at the first guy

https://imgur.com/a/HijfLf0

https://imgur.com/a/ECxc44v

Football players

https://imgur.com/a/Y0jV8VF ( majoirty of the players I have uploaded have light eyes , quality of photo has worsened due to imgur )

[aherne]

No you idiot, there is "aryan influence" in all of them otherwise they would appear rather different as a whole. Closer to Baloch.

They are very very different from each other: two look "Indo-European" (Aryan), one looks between Iranian and Indian, another looks North Iranian (the guy on the left)