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Cumansky
01-30-2020, 04:44 PM
Cumansky Bronze Age Regional calculator has been added Vahaduo. Post scaled and unscaled 0x, this calculator is centered around 0x so the alternate options will be less relevant for you

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh

Cumansky
01-30-2020, 04:50 PM
Scaled 0x

Target: Cumansky_scaled
Distance: 1.8769% / 0.01876881
46.6 Baltic_EST_BA
24.2 HRV_MBA
9.8 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
9.6 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier2
6.2 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
2.0 Levant_JOR_EBA
1.6 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1

95025

Unscaled 0x

Target: Cumansky
Distance: 2.5199% / 0.02519901
30.6 Baltic_EST_BA
21.0 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
13.8 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1
11.2 ETH_4500BP
8.8 IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP
5.0 TKM_Parkhai_LBA
4.8 Canary_Islands_Guanche
2.4 HRV_MBA
1.8 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
0.4 PER_Cuncaicha_3300BP
0.2 Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash

95026

firemonkey
01-30-2020, 05:19 PM
Target: Tim_G_scaled
Distance: 1.8359% / 0.01835883
77.4 Scotland_LBA
12.2 CZE_Unetice_EBA
6.2 Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr
3.2 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul
1.0 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o


Target: Tim_G_father_scaled
Distance: 2.6051% / 0.02605079
73.8 Scotland_LBA
14.0 CZE_Unetice_EBA
7.2 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o
2.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
2.4 Baltic_LVA_BA

Target: Tim_Mother_test_Scaled
Distance: 2.2094% / 0.02209386
69.8 Scotland_LBA
10.8 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul
9.4 Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr
4.6 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
2.0 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
2.0 Scotland_MBA
1.2 PER_Cuncaicha_4200BP
0.2 ETH_4500BP

I see no option for an unscaled version .

Cumansky
01-30-2020, 05:32 PM
I see no option for an unscaled version .

Well you know what Timmy I do see option for unscaled and is Cumansky calculator, mate cheers

Kaspias
01-30-2020, 09:14 PM
Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.1387% / 0.02138653 | ADC: 0.25x
69.4 IND_Roopkund_B
15.4 KAZ_Georgievsky2_LBA
15.0 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o2
0.2 HRV_MBA

firemonkey
01-30-2020, 09:28 PM
Well you know what Timmy I do see option for unscaled and is Cumansky calculator, mate cheers

What is there when I go on to the site.


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I.e nothing for it under 'unscaled'

Coastal Elite
01-30-2020, 09:32 PM
Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.02930541 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.03330580 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.05129398 Scotland_LBA
0.05204223 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.05408682 Scotland_MBA
0.05425704 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.05524885 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.05609258 HRV_MBA
0.05752317 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.05873969 DEU_Lech_MBA

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.6422% / 0.01642215
29.6 HRV_MBA
25.6 Scotland_LBA
16.8 HRV_EBA
9.4 KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA
5.0 Baltic_EST_BA
4.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
4.2 CZE_Bilina_BA
4.2 UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA
0.4 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.2 KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 1.8862% / 0.01886221 | ADC: 0.25x
28.4 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
23.4 HRV_MBA
16.6 Scotland_LBA
14.6 HRV_EBA
6.0 Yamnaya_BGR
5.0 UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA
3.6 CZE_Unetice_EBA
2.4 KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA

andre
01-30-2020, 10:22 PM
Target: Andrei_scaled
Distance: 2.8751% / 0.02875082 | ADC: 0.25x
24.2 Baltic_LTU_BA
24.2 BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA
17.6 Yamnaya_BGR
15.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
9.6 IND_Roopkund_B
5.4 HRV_MBA
2.6 Baltic_EST_BA
0.8 DEU_Lech_MBA

Pedro Ruben
01-30-2020, 10:25 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.5620% / 0.01562001

27.0 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o
23.4 Scotland_LBA
14.2 Canary_Islands_Guanche
12.4 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul
5.6 EGY_Hellenistic
5.6 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
3.6 EGY_Late_Period
3.2 UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA
3.2 Yamnaya_BGR
1.0 ETH_4500BP
0.8 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA

celticdragongod
01-31-2020, 12:14 AM
Distance to: cdg_scaled
0.02536153 Scotland_LBA
0.03221553 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.03342057 Scotland_MBA
0.03639940 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.04234816 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04237512 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.04247217 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.05594687 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
0.05712696 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.06315025 KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul
0.06346089 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA
0.06392124 CZE_Starounetice_EBA
0.06624682 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
0.06722444 RUS_Sintashta_MLBA
0.06803246 KAZ_Lisakovskiy_MLBA_Alakul
0.06863219 UKR_Srubnaya_MLBA
0.07124861 DEU_Welzin_BA
0.07133511 KAZ_Solyanka_MLBA
0.07143866 RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA
0.07207103 Yamnaya_BGR
0.07750064 RUS_Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA
0.07794483 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_MLBA
0.07948028 KAZ_Bylkyldak_MLBA
0.08048841 KAZ_Kyzlbulak_MLBA1
0.08083790 KAZ_Karagash_MLBA

Target: cdg_scaled
Distance: 2.3060% / 0.02305981
78.6 Scotland_LBA
6.8 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
6.4 HRV_EBA
4.6 Baltic_LVA_BA
2.2 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
1.4 DEU_Lech_MBA

xripkan
01-31-2020, 12:32 AM
Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.1387% / 0.02138653 | ADC: 0.25x
69.4 IND_Roopkund_B
15.4 KAZ_Georgievsky2_LBA
15.0 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o2
0.2 HRV_MBA

Roopkund_B is not BA but from Medieval era. It should not be included.

Kaspias
01-31-2020, 04:47 AM
Roopkund_B is not BA but from Medieval era. It should not be included.

Yes.

Dick
01-31-2020, 04:50 AM
Roopkund_B is not BA but from Medieval era. It should not be included.

Same with the Guanche sample but what do you expect from a polack calculator.

Cumansky
01-31-2020, 11:05 AM
Roopkund_B is not BA but from Medieval era. It should not be included.

I needed good proxy for Roma ancestry

Cumansky
01-31-2020, 11:05 AM
Use 0x

Kaspias
01-31-2020, 12:22 PM
I needed good proxy for Roma ancestry

He is not indian lol

Cumansky
01-31-2020, 12:50 PM
He is not indian lol

Roma are not Indian they are Roma, is a mixed race you are part Roma cause you get Roopkund

Kaspias
01-31-2020, 12:56 PM
Roma are not Indian they are Roma, is a mixed race you are part Roma cause you get Roopkund

Roopkund B is Greek(most probably Macedonian Greek) from Ottoman era

Cumansky
01-31-2020, 01:01 PM
Roopkund B is Greek(most probably Macedonian Greek) from Ottoman era

Why they call it Roopkund, that is misleading

You are Ottoman tho is good for Ottoman ancestry, that I believe is related with Roma migration

Kaspias
01-31-2020, 01:02 PM
Why they call it Roopkund, that is misleading

They found it in India, there were three group of people(A,B,C) B was Greek traders

Bosniensis
01-31-2020, 01:03 PM
I am half gipsy - half chinese




25.6 Baltic_LVA_BA
16.8 IND_Roopkund_B_o
13.0 Baltic_LTU_BA
12.6 HRV_MBA
8.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
8.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
7.4 ITA_Remedello_BA


0.05206351 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.06378210 Yamnaya_BGR
0.06547374 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.06734794 HRV_MBA
0.07222951 HRV_EBA
0.07356805 DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07472791 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.07575546 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.07916904 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.08056401 Scotland_LBA
0.08266801 Scotland_MBA
0.08378888 Scotland_CA_EBA

Kaspias
01-31-2020, 01:04 PM
I am half gipsy - half chinese




25.6 Baltic_LVA_BA
16.8 IND_Roopkund_B_o
13.0 Baltic_LTU_BA
12.6 HRV_MBA
8.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
8.0 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
7.4 ITA_Remedello_BA


0.05206351 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.06378210 Yamnaya_BGR
0.06547374 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.06734794 HRV_MBA
0.07222951 HRV_EBA
0.07356805 DEU_Lech_MBA
0.07472791 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.07575546 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.07916904 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.08056401 Scotland_LBA
0.08266801 Scotland_MBA
0.08378888 Scotland_CA_EBA

B_o is Anatolian Greek. Your dream has came true

Cumansky
01-31-2020, 01:05 PM
They found it in India, there were three group of people(A,B,C) B was Greek traders

Interesting, but don't you think it can be a person with a mix of Balkan and Central Asian ancestry? For example a descendant of Alexander Macedonian Army that got mixed with the locals, Roma were originally nomadic warrior class from northern India, Pakistan, etc

Bosniensis
01-31-2020, 01:06 PM
B_o is Anatolian Greek. Your dream has came true

Well we are mixed.

What would you expect from ex-byzantine, ex-ottoman family :P

You are more Rum than me, I bet your ancestors were in Thrace for at least 2000 years.

Haplogroup Q came very very long ago I think, long before Ottomans.

Dick
01-31-2020, 01:08 PM
Haplogroup Q came very very long ago I think, long before Ottomans.

It came with *****ukh

JohnnyP
01-31-2020, 01:10 PM
Target: JohnnyP_scaled
Distance: 2.0157% / 0.02015692 | ADC: 0.25x
29.4 IND_Roopkund_B
27.0 Baltic_EST_BA
22.6 HRV_EBA
20.6 HRV_MBA
0.4 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1

Target: JohnnyP_scaled
Distance: 1.7454% / 0.01745361 0x
30.8 Baltic_EST_BA
21.8 HRV_EBA
21.4 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
19.8 HRV_MBA
2.6 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
1.6 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1
1.2 BGR_EBA
0.8 BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA

SUPREEEEEME
01-31-2020, 02:23 PM
Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 1.9350% / 0.01934996
27.4 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
23.0 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
8.8 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA_o
8.6 KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA
7.4 Scotland_LBA
5.2 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
4.4 Yamnaya_BGR
4.2 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
3.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian
3.6 IND_Roopkund_B
1.6 HRV_MBA
1.0 TKM_Gonur3_BA
0.8 MNG_Hovsgol_BA_o1
0.2 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA

Target: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
Distance: 2.3057% / 0.02305687 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 IND_Roopkund_B
17.2 Anatolia_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA_low_res
8.6 Scotland_LBA
5.6 Levant_ISR_Ashkelon_LBA
4.6 KAZ_Zevakinskiy_BA
3.4 Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr
3.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
2.0 MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.4 KAZ_Satan_MLBA_Alakul
0.2 KAZ_Hun-Sarmatian

Saint-Glinglin
02-01-2020, 12:50 PM
Distance to: ssg
0.03553260 DEU_Lech_EBA
0.04178965 DEU_Lech_MBA
0.04402593 HRV_MBA
0.04461370 Bell_Beaker_HUN_EBA
0.04859468 DEU_Welzin_BA_outlier3
0.06031342 HRV_EBA
0.06457813 Scotland_MBA
0.06532586 Scotland_LBA
0.06873641 Scotland_CA_EBA
0.06959685 Iberia_Central_BA
0.07190154 CZE_Bilina_BA
0.07270888 CZE_Unetice_EBA
0.07801115 BGR_EBA
0.08019372 Iberia_Southeast_BA
0.08245060 Iberia_Southwest_BA
0.08386197 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
0.08478017 DEU_Welzin_BA
0.08514229 Yamnaya_BGR
0.08518912 CZE_Starounetice_EBA
0.08998340 Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr
0.09210818 BGR_Beli_Breyag_EBA
0.09661448 IND_Roopkund_B
0.09752755 RUS_Petrovka_MLBA
0.09898607 KAZ_Maitan_MLBA_Alakul
0.10142341 KAZ_Kairan_MLBA

Target: ssg
Distance: 2.0247% / 0.02024670
27.0 Scotland_MBA
24.6 DEU_Lech_MBA
17.0 HRV_MBA
12.4 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
9.6 Iberia_Southeast_BA
8.6 Anatolia_Isparta_EBA
0.8 Iberia_Central_BA

Target: ssg
Distance: 2.1845% / 0.02184483 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 DEU_Lech_EBA
28.0 HRV_MBA
21.8 DEU_Lech_MBA
5.6 Bell_Beaker_England_EBA
2.0 Iberia_Southeast_BA

According to this small article: https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/.premium.MAGAZINE-prehistoric-downton-abbey-bronze-age-germans-had-earliest-known-household-staff-1.7965527 there was strong social divisions in the bronze age people of Lech valley. Do you know if the DEU-Lech samples are from elite people, or from servants, or from what they call "imported wives". Or everybody mixed ?

Bosniensis
02-01-2020, 01:01 PM
It came with *****ukh

I agree, very much like so .. somewhere 7th century.