View Full Version : Post Your Dark ages Balkans Andre unscaled calculator results:
17571imre
01-31-2020, 11:38 AM
http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Dark%20ages%20Balkans%20Andre%20unscaled.htm
My results:
Target: MH
Distance: 0.8911% / 0.00891062
Slavic 40.8
Vlach 33.2
Germans 26.0
Target: MH
Distance: 0.9083% / 0.00908320 | ADC: 0.25x
Slavic 43.8
Vlach 34.2
Germans 22.0
Target: MH
Distance: 1.0224% / 0.01022351 | ADC: 0.5x
Slavic 49.0
Vlach 37.0
Germans 14.0
Distance to:
MH
0.02353529
Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.02637802
Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03036396
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03055837
Germans:Dutch
0.03096482
Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.03282027
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03389026
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03621519
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04061847
Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.04388660
Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.04426493
Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05888889
Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06618792
Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07138985
Turanic_invasion:Buryat
nittionia
01-31-2020, 11:45 AM
My dad and I
https://i.imgur.com/eK2qMDC.png
Cumansky
01-31-2020, 12:58 PM
0x
Target: Cumansky
Distance: 4.2679% / 0.04267939
44.6 Germans
28.8 Turanic_invasion
26.6 Vlach
Luke35
01-31-2020, 08:15 PM
Target: Mr.G
Distance: 0.7613% / 0.00761253
56.0 Germans
24.2 Vlach
18.8 Slavic
1.0 Turanic_invasion
Coastal Elite
01-31-2020, 08:28 PM
Romanian Slav dodgers
Distance to: DacoCeltic
0.02048717 Germans:Dutch
0.02249511 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.02940578 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03148523 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03241605 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.8206% / 0.00820561
50.0 Germans
39.0 Vlach
7.6 Slavic
3.4 Turanic_invasion
Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.8329% / 0.00832860 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Germans
41.4 Vlach
7.0 Slavic
1.4 Turanic_invasion
Luke35
01-31-2020, 08:42 PM
Romanian Slav dodgers
Distance to: DacoCeltic
0.02048717 Germans:Dutch
0.02249511 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.02940578 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03148523 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03241605 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.8206% / 0.00820561
50.0 Germans
39.0 Vlach
7.6 Slavic
3.4 Turanic_invasion
Target: DacoCeltic
Distance: 0.8329% / 0.00832860 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Germans
41.4 Vlach
7.0 Slavic
1.4 Turanic_invasion
King of the Turanic invasion :)
MagnusDark
01-31-2020, 08:45 PM
Total LARPing. Why the hell would all paleo Balkan and Roman sanples be classified as "Vlach"? extremely misleading.
Coastal Elite
01-31-2020, 08:46 PM
King of the Turanic invasion :)
The Curse of Turan. Part of Hungarian culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Turan
Luke35
01-31-2020, 08:56 PM
The Curse of Turan. Part of Hungarian culture.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Turan
Whoa, that's new to me.
Lucas
01-31-2020, 08:57 PM
Target: Lukasz
Distance: 1.9940% / 0.01993991
100.0 Slavic
Bosniensis
01-31-2020, 08:59 PM
Total LARPing. Why the hell would all paleo Balkan and Roman sanples be classified as "Vlach"? extremely misleading.
Vlach is late middle age term for Romance speaker of Balkan and Paleo-Balkan people.
Target: Vlachiensis
Distance: 1.2993% / 0.01299258 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Slavic
43.2 Vlach
0.2 Turanic_invasion
Target: Vlachiensis
Distance: 1.2929% / 0.01292941
55.8 Slavic
42.0 Vlach
2.2 Turanic_invasion
Distance to: Vlachiensis
0.02697684 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.02879271 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03117290 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03405907 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03499200 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03737941 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03918533 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04368773 Germans:Dutch
0.04595269 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.04632801 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.04771647 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05986474 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06876190 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07397507 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
andre
01-31-2020, 09:08 PM
Total LARPing. Why the hell would all paleo Balkan and Roman sanples be classified as "Vlach"? extremely misleading.
Vlach=Welchen=“Italians”, so Latin speakers.
celticdragongod
01-31-2020, 10:00 PM
Distance to: CDG
0.01233717 Germans:Dutch
0.04046356 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.04321562 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04567461 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05023535 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.05024868 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.05138582 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05177219 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.05304412 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05322481 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.05927158 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.05981137 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.07323871 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07897569 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Target: CDG
Distance: 1.2337% / 0.01233717
100.0 Germans
Hapanuwa
01-31-2020, 10:07 PM
Target: Hapanuwa
Distance: 1.4846% / 0.01484551
53.4 Vlach
46.6 Turanic_invasion
MagnusDark
01-31-2020, 10:12 PM
Vlach=Welchen=“Italians”, so Latin speakers.
That's besides the point. Paleo Balkan peoples did not speak Latin. Also, using modern ethnic groups as a category for ancients that genetically were still somewhat drifted from moderns is counter productive. Especially when North Italians, Greeks and Albanians have more shared DNA with these ancients than do Vlachs. Modern labels should only be applied to MODERN sample groups.
Why not call the component exactly what it is instead of twisting the truth?
andre
01-31-2020, 11:00 PM
That's besides the point. Paleo Balkan peoples did not speak Latin. Also, using modern ethnic groups as a category for ancients that genetically were still somewhat drifted from moderns is counter productive. Especially when North Italians, Greeks and Albanians have more shared DNA with these ancients than do Vlachs. Modern labels should only be applied to MODERN sample groups.
Why not call the component exactly what it is instead of twisting the truth?
Your idea it’s absolutely right. When the ethnic term “Vlach” emerged in the balkans, most of that people carried some slavic admix; but since i don’t have a medieval sample of Vlach sheeperd I couldn’t improve this calc. Anyway, if you don’t like it, could change “vlach” in “paleo-balkanic”. Now, with only this samples we can’t say how were exactly the medieval balkanic slavs or the local vlachs, so that’s pure speculation!
Ritz06
02-01-2020, 05:15 PM
Distance to: Ritz
0.02814977 Germans:Dutch
0.03026186 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03447912 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03711025 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.03784032 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03916618 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03939533 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.03941332 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03993595 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04054368 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.04542312 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.05044898 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.06152818 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.06850094 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Target: TL
Distance: 1.3079% / 0.01307895
39.2 Turanic_invasion
38.4 Germans
22.4 Vlach
17571imre
04-11-2020, 01:31 AM
Mothers result:
Target: CB
Distance: 1.7160% / 0.01715976
66.4 Slavic
24.8 Vlach
7.4 Germans
1.4 Turanic_invasion
Grace O'Malley
04-11-2020, 01:56 AM
Target: Grace_unscaled
Distance: 1.4460% / 0.01445988
98.2 Germans:Dutch
1.8 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
Distance to: Grace_unscaled
0.01449887 Germans:Dutch
0.04347735 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04546526 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.05091424 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.05204277 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05238184 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05414795 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.05557580 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.05623522 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.05626624 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.05793587 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06266043 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.07337791 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07820183 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Coastal Elite
04-11-2020, 02:09 AM
Mom. Three full Irish on this page.
Target: Daco_mom
Distance: 1.3017% / 0.01301745
100.0 Germans: Dutch
Distance to: Daco_mom
0.01301745 Germans: Dutch
0.04003573 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04326488 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.04724003 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.04943460 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.05055673 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05128684 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.05159971 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.05272258 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.05380875 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05874632 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.05947433 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.07508959 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.08151645 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
paradox
04-11-2020, 06:14 AM
Target: unscaled
Distance: 1.2579% / 0.01257884
58.4 Vlach
30.2 Slavic
11.4 Turanic_invasion
Target: unscaled
Distance: 1.2667% / 0.01266713 | ADC: 0.25x
61.2 Vlach
29.0 Slavic
9.8 Turanic_invasion
Target: unscaled
Distance: 1.4398% / 0.01439752 | ADC: 0.5x
69.2 Vlach
30.8 Slavic
Distanceto:unscaled
0.02398208
Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.02416009
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.02627299
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.02841091
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.03000850
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03241975Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.03366378Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.04047468
Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.04259333Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.04411890Germans:Dutch
0.04709821Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05470874Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06353617Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.06872083Turanic_invasion:Buryat
My father's
Target: Father_unscaled
Distance: 1.3593% / 0.01359284
58.2Vlach
36.4Slavic
5.4Turanic_invasion
Target: Father_unscaled
Distance: 1.3618% / 0.01361767 | ADC: 0.25x
59.4Vlach
36.4Slavic
4.2Turanic_invasion
Target: Father_unscaled
Distance: 1.3944% / 0.01394425 | ADC: 0.5x
62.8Vlach
36.4Slavic
0.8Turanic_invasion
Distanceto:Father_unscaled
0.02572450
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.02753144
Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03073614
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03222437
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03358705Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03541243
Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.03588398
Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.04019826Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.04051634Germans:Dutch
0.04455519Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.04538621Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05892662Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06521893Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07088621Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Distance: 1.1447% / 0.01144687
79.2 Vlach
20.8 Slavic
Target: Kyp
Distance: 2.1109% / 0.02110892
48.4 Vlach
30.4 Turanic_invasion
16.4 Slavic
4.8 Germans
:(
WeirdLookingFellow
04-11-2020, 08:15 AM
Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.2866% / 0.01286584 | ADC: 0.25x
50.6 Slavic
46.0 Vlach
3.4 Germans
Target: Fellow
Distance: 1.2747% / 0.01274660
47.2 Slavic
44.8 Vlach
7.8 Germans
0.2 Turanic_invasion
AncientGreek
04-14-2020, 07:56 AM
:confused:
Target: AncientGreek
Distance: 1.7116% / 0.01711634
76.4 Vlach
23.6 Turanic_invasion
someonenotyou
04-14-2020, 06:27 PM
Target:
Distance: 1.0683% / 0.01068333 | ADC: 0.25x
43.2 Germans
31.6 Slavic
21.8 Vlach
3.4 Turanic_invasion
Distance to:
0.02390711 Germans:Dutch
0.02599635 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03042400 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03333122 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.03451985 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.03693982 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03804037 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03945377 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04293050 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.04309705 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.04693613 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.05379979 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06542810 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07027338 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Daos777
04-14-2020, 06:41 PM
Target: yo
Distance: 2.1686% / 0.02168583
99.2 Slavic
0.8 Turanic_invasion
lol
Impaler
04-14-2020, 06:45 PM
Target: Impaler
Distance: 1.3612% / 0.01361158
48.0 Vlach
20.6 Slavic
18.8 Turanic_invasion
12.6 Germans
oszkar07
09-18-2020, 12:50 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.5630% / 0.01562971
47.4 Germans:Dutch
32.8 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
18.0 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
1.8 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.5672% / 0.01567208 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Germans:Dutch
32.6 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
18.0 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.4 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
MandM
09-28-2020, 01:07 PM
Target: Milenko
Distance: 1.2113% / 0.01211310
47.8 Vlach
44.4 Slavic
7.8 Turanic_invasion
calxpal
09-28-2020, 02:12 PM
Distance to: cpal
0.02535869 Germans:Dutch
0.03153791 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.03782420 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.04308352 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.04412324 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.04470928 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.04581583 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.04723439 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.04756280 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.04889719 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05053820 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.05608900 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.07089112 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07559961 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Target: cpal
Distance: 2.0105% / 0.02010489
57.4 Germans
27.2 Slavic
15.4 Vlach
Thracian
09-28-2020, 02:16 PM
Target: Thracian
Distance: 1.5131% / 0.01513097 | ADC: 0.25x
59.2 Vlach
20.6 Slavic
20.2 Turanic_invasion
Chris596
09-28-2020, 02:28 PM
I am a Balkaner and Turanic invader in one person.
Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1251% / 0.01125134
51.8 Slavic
41.8 Vlach
6.4 Turanic_invasion
Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 2.2897% / 0.02289680
57.0 Vlach
32.6 Slavic
11.4 Turanic_invasion
Dr_Maul
09-28-2020, 02:32 PM
Ulan.
Target: DrMaul
Distance: 13.9342% / 0.13934183
72.6 Turanic_invasion
27.4 Vlach
mitalit
09-28-2020, 02:43 PM
Target: Xabier
Distance: 2.3435% / 0.02343535
54.8 Germans
45.2 Vlach
Distance to: Xabier
0.03198586 Germans:Dutch
0.03254812 Vlach:HUN_MA_Szolad:SZ37
0.03691612 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy192
0.03758896 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy300
0.03787889 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy197
0.03936788 Vlach:Scythian_MDA:scy305
0.04293856 Vlach:BGR_IA:I5769
0.04712674 Slavic:CZE_Early_Slav
0.05082800 Turanic_invasion:Nogai
0.05503193 Turanic_invasion:Bashkir
0.05916266 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA:Sunghir6
0.06065509 Turanic_invasion:Chechen
0.06875921 Turanic_invasion:Kalmyk
0.07370273 Turanic_invasion:Buryat
Kaspias
09-28-2020, 03:03 PM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.0007% / 0.02000654
46.0 Vlach
30.4 Turanic_invasion
23.6 Slavic
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 0.9976% / 0.00997555
50.2 Vlach
48.0 Turanic_invasion
1.8 Germans
Impaler
09-28-2020, 03:04 PM
Target: Kaspias
Distance: 2.0007% / 0.02000654
46.0 Vlach
30.4 Turanic_invasion
23.6 Slavic
Target: Kaspias_dad
Distance: 0.9976% / 0.00997555
50.2 Vlach
48.0 Turanic_invasion
1.8 Germans
Germans from Huns? :)
Kaspias
09-28-2020, 03:09 PM
Germans from Huns? :)
It is related to additional Steppe input here, which could be about either Balkan or Turkic admixture.
andre
09-28-2020, 03:15 PM
Don’t take that too seriously :)
Kaspias
09-28-2020, 06:37 PM
Don’t take that too seriously :)
It seems more accurate than at least 90% of calculators posted here tbh.
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