Dr. Oz Gedmatch results!

[Leto]

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Mehmet Cengiz Öz (Turkish: [mehˈmet dʒeɲˈɟiz œz]; born June 11, 1960),[1] known professionally as Dr. Oz, is a Turkish American[2][3] television personality, cardiothoracic surgeon, Columbia University professor,[4] pseudoscience promoter,[5] and author.[6] In 2003, Oprah Winfrey was the first guest on the Discovery Channel series Second Opinion with Dr. Oz,[7] and, since 2004, Oz became a regular guest on The Oprah Winfrey Show, making more than sixty appearances in it.[7] In 2009, The Dr. Oz Show, a daily television program focusing on medical issues and personal health, was launched by Winfrey's Harpo Productions and Sony Pictures Television.

Oz was born in 1960 in Cleveland, Ohio, to Suna and Mustafa Öz, who had emigrated from Konya Province, Turkey.[11][12] Mustafa, born in Bozkır, a small town in southern Turkey, earned scholarships that allowed him to emigrate to the United States as a medical resident in 1955. Suna (née Atabay), who comes from a wealthy Istanbul family, is the daughter of a pharmacist with Circassian (Shapsug) descent on her mother's side.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmet_Oz

Y-DNA: J2a1b*
mtDNA: H2a1

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.55
2 East_Med 27.63
3 West_Med 10.62
4 North_Atlantic 8.58
5 Baltic 8.06
6 Red_Sea 6.22
7 Siberian 3.67
8 South_Asian 3.61
9 East_Asian 2.48
10 Sub-Saharan 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 4.6
2 Azeri 8.28
3 Kurdish 13.61
4 Georgian_Jewish 13.73
5 Iranian 14.19
6 Assyrian 14.34
7 Armenian 14.39
8 Lebanese_Muslim 15.17
9 Kumyk 15.39
10 Turkmen 15.88
11 Syrian 16.08
12 Iranian_Jewish 16.4
13 Kurdish_Jewish 16.72
14 Cyprian 17.59
15 Central_Greek 17.61
16 East_Sicilian 18.25
17 South_Italian 18.7
18 Balkar 19.41
19 Italian_Abruzzo 19.51
20 Adygei 19.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.3% Turkish + 7.7% Belorussian @ 1.86
2 92.8% Turkish + 7.2% East_Finnish @ 1.9
3 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% Lithuanian @ 1.91
4 92.3% Turkish + 7.7% Estonian_Polish @ 1.92
5 91.7% Turkish + 8.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.93
6 91.7% Turkish + 8.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.94
7 92.2% Turkish + 7.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.94
8 92.8% Turkish + 7.2% Finnish @ 1.96
9 92.1% Turkish + 7.9% Erzya @ 1.97
10 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% Estonian @ 1.98
11 92.3% Turkish + 7.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.03
12 92.1% Turkish + 7.9% Polish @ 2.08
13 91.4% Turkish + 8.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.14
14 91.7% Turkish + 8.3% South_Polish @ 2.14
15 91.7% Turkish + 8.3% Ukrainian @ 2.15
16 92.8% Turkish + 7.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.16
17 93.2% Turkish + 6.8% La_Brana-1 @ 2.23
18 90.7% Turkish + 9.3% Croatian @ 2.33
19 89.9% Turkish + 10.1% Moldavian @ 2.37
20 90.7% Turkish + 9.3% Tatar @ 2.44

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.44
2 Baloch 14.67
3 NE-Euro 13.24
4 SW-Asian 13.02
5 Mediterranean 10.07
6 Siberian 3.88
7 SE-Asian 1.53
8 NE-Asian 1.27
9 S-Indian 1.06
10 Papuan 0.57
11 Pygmy 0.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 6.69
2 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 6.95
3 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 7.31
4 turk (behar) 7.78
5 turkish (harappa) 8.32
6 azeri (harappa) 9.85
7 armenian (harappa) 11.64
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.98
9 kurd (harappa) 13.57
10 kurd (yunusbayev) 14.6
11 iranian (harappa) 14.67
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.69
13 kumyk (yunusbayev) 14.71
14 lebanese-muslim (haber) 14.74
15 lebanese (behar) 15.08
16 syrian (behar) 15.71
17 palestinian (harappa) 15.75
18 iranian (behar) 15.79
19 kurd (xing) 15.83
20 cypriot (behar) 15.92

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.3% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 25.7% chuvash (behar) @ 3.32
2 81.2% armenian (harappa) + 18.8% chuvash (behar) @ 3.38
3 66% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 34% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.43
4 86.5% armenian (harappa) + 13.5% finnish (1000genomes) @ 3.45
5 83.6% armenian (harappa) + 16.4% russian (hgdp) @ 3.47
6 74.8% assyrian (harappa) + 25.2% chuvash (behar) @ 3.57
7 92.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 7.7% finnish (1000genomes) @ 3.59
8 82.7% armenian (harappa) + 17.3% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 3.59
9 75.4% georgia-jew (behar) + 24.6% chuvash (behar) @ 3.68
10 83.1% armenian (harappa) + 16.9% russian (behar) @ 3.77
11 90.7% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9.3% russian (hgdp) @ 3.86
12 73.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 26.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 3.91
13 90.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9.7% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 3.98
14 89.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 10.6% chuvash (behar) @ 3.99
15 74% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 26% iranian-jew (behar) @ 4.01
16 91.8% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 8.2% lithuanian (behar) @ 4.05
17 83.6% armenian (harappa) + 16.4% belorussian (behar) @ 4.09
18 90.8% turkish (harappa) + 9.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 4.12
19 90.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 9.1% belorussian (behar) @ 4.12
20 82.1% armenian (harappa) + 17.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 4.13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.47
2 Gedrosia 14.06
3 North_European 13.35
4 Southwest_Asian 13.02
5 Atlantic_Med 12.12
6 Siberian 3.06
7 East_Asian 2.03
8 South_Asian 1.31
9 Southeast_Asian 1.3
10 Northwest_African 1.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.56
2 Turks (Behar) 8.72
3 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.91
4 Lebanese (Behar) 15.03
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.09
6 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.26
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 16.47
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.52
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.65
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.34
11 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.56
12 Cypriots (Behar) 17.78
13 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 18.15
14 Syrians (Behar) 18.17
15 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.44
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 18.68
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.89
18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.92
19 Druze (HGDP) 18.99
20 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.99

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.31
2 68% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.33
3 66.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 33.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.38
4 88.4% Turks (Behar) + 11.6% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.58
5 88.5% Turks (Behar) + 11.5% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.62
6 76.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.65
7 86.5% Turks (Behar) + 13.5% German (Dodecad) @ 4.78
8 88.3% Turks (Behar) + 11.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 4.8
9 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 4.83
10 87.4% Turks (Behar) + 12.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.83
11 88.3% Turks (Behar) + 11.7% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 4.83
12 88.3% Turks (Behar) + 11.7% Irish (Dodecad) @ 4.85
13 87.1% Turks (Behar) + 12.9% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 4.89
14 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 4.89
15 87.8% Turks (Behar) + 12.2% English (Dodecad) @ 4.91
16 88.1% Turks (Behar) + 11.9% British (Dodecad) @ 4.91
17 87.8% Turks (Behar) + 12.2% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.92
18 87.8% Turks (Behar) + 12.2% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 4.94
19 85.5% Turks (Behar) + 14.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.96
20 63.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 36.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.97

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.4
2 South_Central_Asian 12.93
3 Near_East 12.11
4 European_Hunters_Gatherers 10.3
5 European_Early_Farmers 8.92
6 Tungus-Altaic 3.47
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.27
8 North_African 2.57
9 East_Siberian 1.18
10 South_East_Asian 1.14
11 Austronesian 1.01
12 Australoid 0.89
13 Khoisan 0.68
14 Paleo_Siberian 0.39
15 Melano_Polynesian 0.34
16 Archaic_Human 0.29
17 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk ( ) 5.19
2 Turk_Adana ( ) 5.28
3 Turk_Aydin ( ) 5.85
4 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 6.43
5 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 6.54
6 Georgian_Jew ( ) 8.71
7 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8.95
8 Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) 9.46
9 Azov_Greek ( ) 9.77
10 Lebanese_Muslim ( ) 10
11 Assyrian_Iraqi ( ) 10.01
12 Lebanese ( ) 10.7
13 Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) 11.12
14 Azeri ( ) 11.59
15 Syrian_Jew ( ) 11.61
16 Iraqi_Mandean ( ) 11.77
17 Kurd_Jew ( ) 11.88
18 Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) 11.99
19 Kurd_North ( ) 12.13
20 Iranian_Jew ( ) 12.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 30.2% Iranian_Jew ( ) @ 2.47
2 68.9% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 31.1% Kurd_Jew ( ) @ 2.59
3 67.4% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 32.6% Uzbekistani_Jew ( ) @ 2.61
4 90.5% Turk ( ) + 9.5% Saudi ( ) @ 2.67
5 91.9% Turk ( ) + 8.1% Qatari ( ) @ 2.68
6 95.3% Turk ( ) + 4.7% BedouinB ( ) @ 2.69
7 61.6% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 38.4% Georgian_Jew ( ) @ 2.77
8 85.5% Turk ( ) + 14.5% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.84
9 88.4% Turk ( ) + 11.6% Yemen ( ) @ 2.86
10 70.1% Jew_Tat ( ) + 29.9% Tatar-Lithuanian ( ) @ 2.92
11 71.6% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 28.4% Iraqi_Jew ( ) @ 2.98
12 64.2% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 35.8% Iraqi_Chaldean ( ) @ 3.02
13 87.4% Turk ( ) + 12.6% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 3.03
14 88.8% Turk ( ) + 11.2% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 3.09
15 82.5% Turk ( ) + 17.5% Jordanian ( ) @ 3.11
16 73.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 26.2% Jew_Tat ( ) @ 3.13
17 88.3% Turk ( ) + 11.7% Yemenite_Jew ( ) @ 3.15
18 69.8% Turk_Aydin ( ) + 30.2% Iraqi_Mandean ( ) @ 3.18
19 87.8% Turk ( ) + 12.2% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 3.21
20 80.2% Georgian_Jew ( ) + 19.8% Tatar-Lithuanian ( ) @ 3.23

[altaic]

Cool. Is the raw data from 23andme? How did you find it?
My HarappaWorld Single and Mixed are very similar to him. Do you have kit?

Dr Oz
18 90.8% turkish (harappa) + 9.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 4.12
Me
16 96% turkish (harappa) + 4% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.63

[Leto]

Cool. Is the raw data from 23andme? How did you find it?
My HarappaWorld Single and Mixed are very similar to him. Do you have kit?

Dr Oz
18 90.8% turkish (harappa) + 9.2% finnish (1000genomes) @ 4.12
Me
16 96% turkish (harappa) + 4% finnish (1000genomes) @ 2.63
Yes, I do. Found it by accident. I will send it to you in a rep comment.

I added his haplogroups.

[ProudBrit]

basically an assimilated greek, noise asian, no armenoid or Kurdish in him.
https://www.rachaelrayshow.com/sites/default/files/styles/video_1920x1080/public/images/2019-05/rr_13001_oz_4.jpg?itok=cbfP1Q0g

Here's another Turkish Dr. Oz with a stereotypical Turkish face, here is what Oz would've looked like if he was Turkish.

https://sundancesmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dr-oz-sq.jpeg

[Leto]

Yes, he looks white and his children whose mother is a white American are also totally American. Though he still loosely identifies as Muslim.

[Aileron]

basically an assimilated greek, noise asian, no armenoid or Kurdish in him.
https://www.rachaelrayshow.com/sites/default/files/styles/video_1920x1080/public/images/2019-05/rr_13001_oz_4.jpg?itok=cbfP1Q0g

Here's another Turkish Dr. Oz with a stereotypical Turkish face, here is what Oz would've looked like if he was Turkish.

https://sundancesmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dr-oz-sq.jpeg

Mehmet Oz doesnt look Greek at all more like an avarage White American
Avarage Greeks look more like the second dude

[Dorian]

basically an assimilated greek, noise asian, no armenoid or Kurdish in him.
https://www.rachaelrayshow.com/sites/default/files/styles/video_1920x1080/public/images/2019-05/rr_13001_oz_4.jpg?itok=cbfP1Q0g

Here's another Turkish Dr. Oz with a stereotypical Turkish face, here is what Oz would've looked like if he was Turkish.

https://sundancesmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dr-oz-sq.jpeg

...

[Leto]

Dr. Oz is said to be 1/4 (?) Circassian (see the quote above) and he is also 6-7% Mongoloid which is a clear indicator of Turkic ancestry. Not a lot but still there is some.

[Samnium]

Mehmet Oz doesnt look Greek at all more like an avarage White American
Avarage Greeks look more like the second dude

To me he passes well as a White American but there's maybe a bit of West Asian in his look, to me he doesn't look "100% european" in a sense that I see some Turkic in the eye area.

Most people wouldn't notice that, and there are Europeans that can have that sort of "Asian eyes" so...

[Epirus DNA]

Dr. Mongoloid.

[Aileron]

Dr. Mongoloid.

Its Turanid....

[altaic]

basically an assimilated greek, noise asian, no armenoid or Kurdish in him.

Assimilated Greek? Distinctive Siberian and Tungus Altaic components which are above 3%. If you call 3% a noise, you gotta go to the ENT doctor.

[Leto]

Assimilated Greek? Distinctive Siberian and Tungus Altaic components which are above 3%. If you call 3% a noise, you gotta go to the ENT doctor.
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 38.65
2 Southern 29.66
3 Atlantic_Baltic 22.79
4 Siberian 3.5
5 East_Asian 2.79
6 South_Asian 2.21
7 African 0.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 5.56
2 Turks (Behar) 5.89
3 Cypriots (Behar) 14.98
4 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 15.64
5 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 16.26
6 Adygei (HGDP) 16.66
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 16.89
8 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 17.72
9 Lebanese (Behar) 17.79
10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 17.96

6.3% mongoloid

[Epirus DNA]

Its Turanid....

Yeah, sure. Greek + Mongoloid = Turk

Turkic languages are often grouped with Mongolian and Tungusic languages in the Altaic language family. Strictly speaking, the "Turkish" languages spoken between Mongolia and Turkey should be called Turkic languages, and the term "Turkish" should refer to the language spoken in Turkey alone.

[Thracian]

Typical Central Anatolian Turkish results.

[happycow]

Cool thank you for sharing. :)

[Leto]

Typical Central Anatolian Turkish results.
I still think his European percentage is a bit higher than usual. I mean the Turkish average is not 13% NE Euro, is it?

[Kaspias]

Can you give the kit number?

[Aileron]

Yeah, sure. Greek + Mongoloid = Turk

Turkic languages are often grouped with Mongolian and Tungusic languages in the Altaic language family. Strictly speaking, the "Turkish" languages spoken between Mongolia and Turkey should be called Turkic languages, and the term "Turkish" should refer to the language spoken in Turkey alone.

Sorry man personally i have nothing to do with Greeks neither in looks and genetics.
Greeks and Turks are very different

[Epirus DNA]

Sorry man personally i have nothing to do with Greeks neither in looks and genetics.
Greeks and Turks are very different

Some Turks. A large group of Turks have direct Greek DNA Admixture. Turk with no Greek equals Mongoloid.

[Aileron]

Some Turks. A large group of Turks have direct Greek DNA Admixture. Turk with no Greek equals Mongoloid.

Nope Greeks are mostly meds whereas we have high Steppe ancestry

[Thracian]

I still think his European percentage is a bit higher than usual. I mean the Turkish average is not 13% NE Euro, is it?

I found this map,

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

He scores NE very similar to some cities such as Cankiri and Eskisehir. I am not sure they added Tatar samples into Eskisehir since the city holds one of the biggest Tatar communities. On the other hand, he has more NE than most cities as you said.

[Aileron]

I found this map,

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

He scores NE very similar to some cities such as Cankiri and Eskisehir. I am not sure they added Tatar samples into Eskisehir since the city holds one of the biggest Tatar communities. On the other hand, he has more NE than most cities as you said.

Holly shit this is cool

[Lucas]

There is such user on Anthrogenica from Bosnia? Oz.
I guess not him:)

[Samnium]

Nope Greeks are mostly meds whereas we have high Steppe ancestry

Basing only on Gedmatch Greeks score higher "Steppe" (Baltic + N.Atlantic scores).

I would say that they have pretty much similar ratio of Steppe ancestry, on average. Because there are outliers in both countries.

[Aileron]

Basing only on Gedmatch Greeks score higher "Steppe" (Baltic + N.Atlantic scores).

I would say that they have pretty much similar ratio of Steppe ancestry, on average.

it doesnt makes sense at all, Greeks are a med population

[Kyp]

it doesnt makes sense at all, Greeks are a med population

Greeks are Indo-European hence they have steppe ancestry. It wouldn't make sense for them to not have it actually. Maybe you're misinterpreting the word "steppe"?

[Samnium]

it doesnt makes sense at all, Greeks are a med population

Myceneans that are basically "proto-greeks" (Greeks can be modeled as 70% Mycenean I believe, atleast those of mainland) had already Steppe ancestry (something around 10%). Slavic and Balkan populations shifting have further increased this Steppe ratio.

Being a med population doesn't imply to not have "Indo-European".

[Marmara]

basically an assimilated greek, noise asian, no armenoid or Kurdish in him.
https://www.rachaelrayshow.com/sites/default/files/styles/video_1920x1080/public/images/2019-05/rr_13001_oz_4.jpg?itok=cbfP1Q0g

Here's another Turkish Dr. Oz with a stereotypical Turkish face, here is what Oz would've looked like if he was Turkish.

https://sundancesmiles.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/dr-oz-sq.jpeg

That guy is mexican.

[Marmara]

I still think his European percentage is a bit higher than usual. I mean the Turkish average is not 13% NE Euro, is it?

It is.

[Kyp]

It is.

it's around 10-11% for Konya and neighboring provinces

[Marmara]

it's around 10-11% for Konya and neighboring provinces

Only his father is from Konya.

[Kyp]

Only his father is from Konya.

I see. Okay.

[Dorian]

Myceneans that are basically "proto-greeks" (Greeks can be modeled as 70% Mycenean I believe, atleast those of mainland) had already Steppe ancestry (something around 10%). Slavic and Balkan populations shifting have further increased this Steppe ratio.

Being a med population doesn't imply to not have "Indo-European".

He just plays dumb , you waste your time..

[VigVagKesalt]

I see. Okay.


Only his father is from Konya.


it doesnt makes sense at all, Greeks are a med population

Aren't Turks from Black Sea region deemed as lightest Turks? They score less N. European than western Turks and especially Eastern Thrace?

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

[Marmara]

Aren't Turks from Black Sea region deemed as lightest Turks? They score less N. European than western Turks and especially Eastern Thrace?

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

You are speaking of Northeasterners spesifically Laz. Yes they are the lightest people of Anatolia and they have the least North European admixture, they are genetically closer to Armenians than Anatolian Turks.

Other Turks of Black Sea are darker than Laz, lighter than Central Anatolians but genetically and phenotypically much closer to Central Anatolians.

[FinalFlash]

You are speaking of Northeasterners spesifically Laz. Yes they are the lightest people of Anatolia and they have the least North European admixture, they are genetically closer to Armenians than Anatolian Turks.

Other Turks of Black Sea are darker than Laz, lighter than Central Anatolians but genetically and phenotypically much closer to Central Anatolians.

Laz don't live in Anatolia.

[Marmara]

Laz don't live in Anatolia.

True, but many people know refer Asian side of Turkey as Anatolia.

[VigVagKesalt]

You are speaking of Northeasterners spesifically Laz. Yes they are the lightest people of Anatolia and they have the least North European admixture, they are genetically closer to Armenians than Anatolian Turks.

Other Turks of Black Sea are darker than Laz, lighter than Central Anatolians but genetically and phenotypically much closer to Central Anatolians.

Do Laz people cluster close to Chechen?

[Marmara]

Do Laz people cluster close to Chechen?

They cluster with all Caucasians, Lazes are a Caucasian Kartvelian ethnicity.

[itilvolga]

Most likely i will get very similar results even though our regions don’t match

[Salonikios]

Is it common for Central and Western Anatolians to get 6 red sea and 3 south Asia? These are even higher than his Siberian and East asian. Considering he is partly Circassian-Shapsug his steppe ancestry and Mongoloid components increased. Most likely his Turkish ancestors had more South Asian and Red Sea.

[Kyp]

Is it common for Central and Western Anatolians to get 6 red sea and 3 south Asia? These are even higher than his Siberian and East asian. Considering he is partly Circassian-Shapsug his steppe ancestry and Mongoloid components increased. Most likely his Turkish ancestors had more South Asian and Red Sea.

South Asian and Red_Sea don't correlate at all. For example Western Turkey has more Red_Sea on average than eastern Turkey. And South Asian increases where there is either Kurdish or heavy Turkoman ancestry. Anyway most of the South Asian on eurogenes isn't actually South Asian.

Also being Circassian probably lowered his Mongoloid component. Not the other way around.

[Leto]

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.19
2 East_Med 26.5
3 Atlantic 10.69
4 Eastern_Euro 7.32
5 West_Med 6.5
6 Red_Sea 6.36
7 South_Asian 3.72
8 Baltic 3.3
9 Siberian 3.08
10 Southeast_Asian 2
11 North_Sea 1.71
12 Sub-Saharan 0.41
13 Northeast_African 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 5.03
2 Azeri 7.91
3 Kurdish 11.83
4 Iranian 12.97
5 Georgian_Jewish 13.79
6 Armenian 14.56
7 Assyrian 14.93
8 Turkmen 15.12
9 Lebanese_Muslim 15.72
10 Syrian 17.12
11 Kumyk 17.35
12 Ashkenazi 17.44
13 Iranian_Jewish 17.53
14 Central_Greek 17.67
15 Cyprian 17.83
16 East_Sicilian 18.38
17 South_Italian 18.53
18 Kurdish_Jewish 18.55
19 Sephardic_Jewish 18.62
20 Italian_Abruzzo 18.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.9% Turkish + 6.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.18
2 94.2% Turkish + 5.8% Estonian_Polish @ 4.21
3 93.9% Turkish + 6.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.21
4 94.2% Turkish + 5.8% Chuvash @ 4.22
5 94.1% Turkish + 5.9% Erzya @ 4.23
6 93.8% Turkish + 6.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.25
7 94% Turkish + 6% Southwest_Russian @ 4.25
8 93% Turkish + 7% Tatar @ 4.26
9 94.3% Turkish + 5.7% Belorussian @ 4.26
10 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% Austrian @ 4.28
11 94.9% Turkish + 5.1% Mari @ 4.29
12 94.3% Turkish + 5.7% Polish @ 4.3
13 94.5% Turkish + 5.5% East_Finnish @ 4.33
14 95.1% Turkish + 4.9% French_Basque @ 4.37
15 95% Turkish + 5% Lithuanian @ 4.38
16 93.4% Turkish + 6.6% Croatian @ 4.38
17 94.8% Turkish + 5.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.39
18 94.3% Turkish + 5.7% South_Polish @ 4.39
19 94.9% Turkish + 5.1% La_Brana-1 @ 4.4
20 95.2% Turkish + 4.8% Estonian @ 4.44

164743 SNPs used in this evaluation

[Leto]

Also being Circassian probably lowered his Mongoloid component. Not the other way around.
In the NW Caucasus up to 10% Mongoloid is possible (Karachay-Balkars, Kabardians, North Osserians). But the Red Sea is at 0-2% normally.

[Kyp]

In the NW Caucasus up to 10% Mongoloid is possible (Karachay-Balkars, Kabardians, North Osserians). But the Red Sea is at 0-2% normally.

Red_Sea is pretty high in all of Western Turkey. It's a native component there most likely.

[Salonikios]

South Asian and Red_Sea don't correlate at all. For example Western Turkey has more Red_Sea on average than eastern Turkey. And South Asian increases where there is either Kurdish or heavy Turkoman ancestry. Anyway most of the South Asian on eurogenes isn't actually South Asian.

Also being Circassian probably lowered his Mongoloid component. Not the other way around.

Some Circassians I saw score 6-7 even up to 10 Mongoloid . That is why I said. Afterall they lived together with so many Turkic tribes like Cumans, Pecheneks etc.

[Kamal900]

Mehmet Oz doesnt look Greek at all more like an avarage White American
Avarage Greeks look more like the second dude

That, rofl. Oz looks kinda like Mustafa Kemal Ataturk. There's a Turkish vibe coming from both men which is not commonly found in Greece.
https://www.onthisday.com/images/people/mustafa-kemal-ataturk-medium.jpg
https://www.rachaelrayshow.com/sites/default/files/styles/video_1920x1080/public/images/2019-05/rr_13001_oz_4.jpg?itok=cbfP1Q0g

I'm guessing is the Turnaid admixture in their phenotype despite their pigmentation like this Turkish actor"
https://i.pinimg.com/236x/41/88/92/418892f02bf824d85696cf70f286d9a7--turkish-actors-secret-crush.jpg

[Salonikios]

It would be good to see full Shapsug gedmatch k13 to compare. I could not find any.

[Kamal900]

That guy is mexican.

The 2nd guy? Looks very Arabic to me.

[Kyp]

Some Circassians I saw score 6-7 even up to 10 Mongoloid . That is why I said. Afterall they lived together with so many Turkic tribes like Cumans, Pecheneks etc.

Okay but that still would be about average for his region in Turkey. Also red_sea is not turkic component but a local Western Anatolian component. Red_Sea isn't even high in Azerbaijan, Iran (Khorasan), Turkmenistan where Turcomans came from.

[Leto]

Red_Sea is pretty high in all of Western Turkey. It's a native component there most likely.
Well, let's not forget that many people simply get odd results for no apparent reason. I don't know if 6% can be considered normal for Anatolian Turks but after all, he is Turkish, not Northern European. There are Southern Italians and Greek Islanders with 5-7% RS for example. His East Med is fairly high (26-27% on K13/15) which means he is genetically very Southern.

[Leto]

Just checked the Eurogenes spreadsheets

Turkish average:
K13 - 5.46 (Dr. Oz - 6.22)
K15 - 5.62 (Dr. Oz - 6.36)

Almost the same. Basically he is not atypical at all.

[Maguzanci]

Very interesting how Sicilians, South Italians, Greek Islanders are one of the closest Euros to him.

Also it's flabbergasting to me how Turks are genetically pretty distinct from Greeks despite being next door neighbors.

Also pardon my lack of foresight, but I am also startled by how White he look despite his very West Asian genetics.

[Kyp]

Just checked the Eurogenes spreadsheets

Turkish average:
K13 - 5.46 (Dr. Oz - 6.22)
K15 - 5.62 (Dr. Oz - 6.36)

Almost the same. Basically he is not atypical at all.

Runned his Dodecad through Vahaduo :

Distance to: Dr_Oz
4.50551884 Turk_Central_West
4.87466922 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.00167972 Turk_Anatolia
5.32567367 Turk_Central_East
5.72654346 Turk_South
6.83469824 Turk_Southeast
6.86480153 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.93886158 Turk_Southwest
8.25679114 Turk_Northwest
8.86937427 Azerbaijani
9.06896907 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.42149222 Turk_East
10.50600305 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.22490089 Yoruk
12.43065968 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
12.63216925 Turkmen_Iraq
12.66205355 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
12.82040951 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.02071811 Zaza
13.57390143 Greek_Crete
14.23310226 Greek_Cappadocia
14.25860442 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.26315533 Kurd_Sorani
14.42720694 Nusayri_Turkey
14.54471382 Armenian_East

Target: Dr_Oz
Distance: 3.0329% / 3.03293045 | ADC: 0.5x
69.8 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.8 Turk_Central_East
10.0 Lebanese
8.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.0 Turk_Southeast

[Aileron]

Ironically he is middle eastern shifted in genetics lol

[Aileron]

Well, let's not forget that many people simply get odd results for no apparent reason. I don't know if 6% can be considered normal for Anatolian Turks but after all, he is Turkish, not Northern European. There are Southern Italians and Greek Islanders with 5-7% RS for example. His East Med is fairly high (26-27% on K13/15) which means he is genetically very Southern.

Dr Öz is southern shifted compared to avarage imho
Wondering my genetic results...

[Salonikios]

Very interesting how Sicilians, South Italians, Greek Islanders are one of the closest Euros to him.

Also it's flabbergasting to me how Turks are genetically pretty distinct from Greeks despite being next door neighbors.

Also pardon my lack of foresight, but I am also startled by how White he look despite his very West Asian genetics.

He is from Konya with mostly Turkish origin. That is why. He is not from İzmir or İstanbul.

[Leto]

With his wife, children and a daughter's family. I believe the daughter's husband is Serbian/Yugoslav
https://scontent-arn2-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/36621803_10151070643954995_5520700784175480832_n.j pg?_nc_cat=100&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQlJbwstPHq08KjDA_A9WKzfZTe2meioveHn8eC3R90 gbdB3tOr-eCeKWXA0900OnK8&_nc_ht=scontent-arn2-2.xx&oh=f55f4595cfe63901e144d2017ef470c6&oe=5ED5E2BE

[Aileron]

He is from Konya with mostly Turkish origin. That is why. He is not from İzmir or İstanbul.

How about us Yörüks?

[Kaspias]

He is actually representative for the region average except for Yoruks. Definitely not an outlier.

[Aileron]

How about us Yörüks?


He is actually representative for the region average except for Yoruks. Definitely not an outlier.

How about Yörüks?
Bizim sonuçlar nasıl panpa?

[Kyp]

He is from Konya with mostly Turkish origin. That is why. He is not from İzmir or İstanbul.

Izmir is not more related to Greeks imo. Only Eastern Thrace/Istanbul regions show a heavy shift towards Greeks on average.
You can look it up here:

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

[Salonikios]

Izmir is not more related to Greeks imo. Only Eastern Thrace/Istanbul regions show a heavy shift towards Greeks on average.
You can look it up here:

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

İzmir has large Muhajir community. You can find Bosniaks Albanians, Balkan Turks. Of course natives would be different.

[Kaspias]

How about Yörüks?
Bizim sonuçlar nasıl panpa?

Yörük (Sarıkeçili) from Taurus Mountains. He is my match btw

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.13
2 East_Med 23.67
3 West_Med 12.98
4 North_Atlantic 8.72
5 Siberian 7.28
6 Baltic 7.09
7 South_Asian 4.44
8 Red_Sea 4.21
9 East_Asian 3.07
10 Amerindian 0.86
11 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.48
2 Azeri 11.44
3 Turkmen 13.96
4 Kumyk 15.99
5 Kurdish 16.87
6 Iranian 17.56
7 Armenian 17.73
8 Central_Greek 17.82
9 Georgian_Jewish 18
10 Nogay 18.16
11 Assyrian 18.52
12 East_Sicilian 18.6
13 Balkar 18.69
14 Lebanese_Muslim 18.77
15 South_Italian 18.97
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.42
17 Syrian 19.43
18 Kabardin 19.56
19 Cyprian 20.11
20 Adygei 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Turkish + 15.7% Tatar @ 3.51
2 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% Mari @ 3.55
3 88.1% Turkish + 11.9% Shors @ 3.7
4 52.6% Nogay + 47.4% Cyprian @ 3.75
5 80.4% Turkish + 19.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.84
6 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Chuvash @ 3.85
7 88.9% Turkish + 11.1% Hakas @ 3.99
8 90.9% Turkish + 9.1% Ket @ 4.08
9 87.6% Turkish + 12.4% Kazakh @ 4.13
10 91.2% Turkish + 8.8% Selkup @ 4.15
11 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Nogay @ 4.37
12 90% Turkish + 10% Altaian @ 4.4
13 50.9% Nogay + 49.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.4
14 82.8% Turkish + 17.2% Uzbeki @ 4.4
15 88.5% Turkish + 11.5% Kirgiz @ 4.54
16 56.6% Turkmen + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 4.57
17 58.3% Turkmen + 41.7% South_Italian @ 4.65
18 91.5% Turkish + 8.5% Tuvinian @ 4.67
19 90% Turkish + 10% East_Finnish @ 4.75
20 57.8% Turkmen + 42.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.76

Aegean Yoruks may score more East Eurasian and more Euro-like Steppe

[Aileron]

Yörük (Sarıkeçili) from Taurus Mountains. He is my match btw

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.13
2 East_Med 23.67
3 West_Med 12.98
4 North_Atlantic 8.72
5 Siberian 7.28
6 Baltic 7.09
7 South_Asian 4.44
8 Red_Sea 4.21
9 East_Asian 3.07
10 Amerindian 0.86
11 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.48
2 Azeri 11.44
3 Turkmen 13.96
4 Kumyk 15.99
5 Kurdish 16.87
6 Iranian 17.56
7 Armenian 17.73
8 Central_Greek 17.82
9 Georgian_Jewish 18
10 Nogay 18.16
11 Assyrian 18.52
12 East_Sicilian 18.6
13 Balkar 18.69
14 Lebanese_Muslim 18.77
15 South_Italian 18.97
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.42
17 Syrian 19.43
18 Kabardin 19.56
19 Cyprian 20.11
20 Adygei 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Turkish + 15.7% Tatar @ 3.51
2 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% Mari @ 3.55
3 88.1% Turkish + 11.9% Shors @ 3.7
4 52.6% Nogay + 47.4% Cyprian @ 3.75
5 80.4% Turkish + 19.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.84
6 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Chuvash @ 3.85
7 88.9% Turkish + 11.1% Hakas @ 3.99
8 90.9% Turkish + 9.1% Ket @ 4.08
9 87.6% Turkish + 12.4% Kazakh @ 4.13
10 91.2% Turkish + 8.8% Selkup @ 4.15
11 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Nogay @ 4.37
12 90% Turkish + 10% Altaian @ 4.4
13 50.9% Nogay + 49.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.4
14 82.8% Turkish + 17.2% Uzbeki @ 4.4
15 88.5% Turkish + 11.5% Kirgiz @ 4.54
16 56.6% Turkmen + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 4.57
17 58.3% Turkmen + 41.7% South_Italian @ 4.65
18 91.5% Turkish + 8.5% Tuvinian @ 4.67
19 90% Turkish + 10% East_Finnish @ 4.75
20 57.8% Turkmen + 42.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.76

Aegean Yoruks may score more East Eurasian and more Euro-like Steppe
Thanks

[Leto]

Yörük (Sarıkeçili) from Taurus Mountains. He is my match btw

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 27.13
2 East_Med 23.67
3 West_Med 12.98
4 North_Atlantic 8.72
5 Siberian 7.28
6 Baltic 7.09
7 South_Asian 4.44
8 Red_Sea 4.21
9 East_Asian 3.07
10 Amerindian 0.86
11 Oceanian 0.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.48
2 Azeri 11.44
3 Turkmen 13.96
4 Kumyk 15.99
5 Kurdish 16.87
6 Iranian 17.56
7 Armenian 17.73
8 Central_Greek 17.82
9 Georgian_Jewish 18
10 Nogay 18.16
11 Assyrian 18.52
12 East_Sicilian 18.6
13 Balkar 18.69
14 Lebanese_Muslim 18.77
15 South_Italian 18.97
16 Italian_Abruzzo 19.42
17 Syrian 19.43
18 Kabardin 19.56
19 Cyprian 20.11
20 Adygei 20.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.3% Turkish + 15.7% Tatar @ 3.51
2 87.7% Turkish + 12.3% Mari @ 3.55
3 88.1% Turkish + 11.9% Shors @ 3.7
4 52.6% Nogay + 47.4% Cyprian @ 3.75
5 80.4% Turkish + 19.6% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.84
6 87.3% Turkish + 12.7% Chuvash @ 3.85
7 88.9% Turkish + 11.1% Hakas @ 3.99
8 90.9% Turkish + 9.1% Ket @ 4.08
9 87.6% Turkish + 12.4% Kazakh @ 4.13
10 91.2% Turkish + 8.8% Selkup @ 4.15
11 74.4% Turkish + 25.6% Nogay @ 4.37
12 90% Turkish + 10% Altaian @ 4.4
13 50.9% Nogay + 49.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.4
14 82.8% Turkish + 17.2% Uzbeki @ 4.4
15 88.5% Turkish + 11.5% Kirgiz @ 4.54
16 56.6% Turkmen + 43.4% Central_Greek @ 4.57
17 58.3% Turkmen + 41.7% South_Italian @ 4.65
18 91.5% Turkish + 8.5% Tuvinian @ 4.67
19 90% Turkish + 10% East_Finnish @ 4.75
20 57.8% Turkmen + 42.2% East_Sicilian @ 4.76

Aegean Yoruks may score more East Eurasian and more Euro-like Steppe
Post his HarappaWorld please.

[Kaspias]

Post his HarappaWorld please.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.76
2 Baloch 14.33
3 Mediterranean 13.36
4 NE-Euro 10.49
5 SW-Asian 10.04
6 NE-Asian 4.79
7 Siberian 4.63
8 S-Indian 2.23
9 Beringian 1.37
10 Papuan 0.96
11 American 0.96
12 Pygmy 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 5.16
2 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 8.49
3 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 8.87
4 turkish (harappa) 9.64
5 turk (behar) 10.11
6 azeri (harappa) 12.18
7 armenian (harappa) 13.54
8 kurd (harappa) 15.09
9 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 15.29
10 iranian (harappa) 15.78
11 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.96
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 15.99
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 16.2
14 nogai (yunusbayev) 16.63
15 lebanese (behar) 16.69
16 lebanese-muslim (haber) 16.74
17 ashkenazi (harappa) 16.84
18 sephardic-jew (behar) 16.89
19 kurd (yunusbayev) 17.12
20 cypriot (behar) 17.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.4% iraqi-arab (harappa) @ 3.23
2 81% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 19% iranian (behar) @ 3.3
3 79.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.8% kurd (harappa) @ 3.41
4 92.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 7.7% makrani (hgdp) @ 3.59
5 92.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 7.5% balochi (hgdp) @ 3.65
6 93% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 7% brahui (hgdp) @ 3.65
7 71.2% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 28.8% turkish (harappa) @ 3.69
8 91.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 8.5% bene-israel-jew (behar) @ 3.87
9 79.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 20.6% armenian (harappa) @ 3.91
10 92.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 7.3% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 3.95
11 93.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 6.5% sindhi (hgdp) @ 3.98
12 82.8% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 17.2% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.99
13 86.1% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 13.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) @ 4
14 82.7% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 17.3% turkmen (yunusbayev) @ 4.03
15 84.4% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 15.6% palestinian (harappa) @ 4.05
16 93.6% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 6.4% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 4.06
17 93.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 6.1% cochin-jew (behar) @ 4.07
18 92.9% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 7.1% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.11
19 95.5% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 4.5% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 4.13
20 93.3% turk-aydin (hodoglugil) + 6.7% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 4.13


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.47
2 Atlantic_Med 14.73
3 Gedrosia 13.84
4 North_European 10.85
5 Southwest_Asian 10.65
6 East_Asian 6.23
7 Siberian 5.03
8 South_Asian 1.99
9 Northwest_African 1.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish (Dodecad) 10.71
2 Turks (Behar) 11.24
3 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 16.75
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 17.61
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 17.71
6 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 17.87
7 Lebanese (Behar) 17.98
8 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.04
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 18.34
10 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.67
11 Iranian (Dodecad) 18.69
12 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.84
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 18.98
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.01
15 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 19.07
16 Cypriots (Behar) 19.68
17 Greek (Dodecad) 19.84
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 20.13
19 Iranians (Behar) 20.57
20 Syrians (Behar) 20.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 48.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.92
2 50.5% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 49.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 3.95
3 62.3% Cypriots (Behar) + 37.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.09
4 51.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 48.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.49
5 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.53
6 50.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 5.59
7 50.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.65
8 77.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 22.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.74
9 81.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 18.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 5.83
10 81.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 18.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 6.2
11 51.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 48.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 6.29
12 52.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 47.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 6.35
13 51.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 48.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.35
14 81.7% Turks (Behar) + 18.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 6.38
15 81.8% Turks (Behar) + 18.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 6.54
16 81.9% Turks (Behar) + 18.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.56
17 81.6% Turks (Behar) + 18.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 6.61
18 52.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 47.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 6.63
19 82.2% Turks (Behar) + 17.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 6.63
20 83.3% Turks (Behar) + 16.7% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 6.64

[Rgvgjhvv]

How do we know these are even his gedmatch results and not a random?

[Rgvgjhvv]

Izmir is not more related to Greeks imo. Only Eastern Thrace/Istanbul regions show a heavy shift towards Greeks on average.
You can look it up here:

https://turkishdnaproject.com/

Not true. There's a user here (who is Yoruk?) from east of Izmir who has Central Greek as his second closest population.

[JamesBond007]

The dude is a clown like many doctors ( especially psychiatrists who are all total quacks who classify malingerers with false 'diseases' or 'disorders'). Doctor Oz is a shill that peddles worthless products on his TV show to make money :


...ordinary folk have a deep respect for professional men of every kind. They are unaware that a man who makes a profession of a thing loves it not for the thing itself, but for the money he makes by it; or that it is rare for a man who teaches to know his subject thoroughly; for if he studies it as he ought, he has in most cases no time left in which to teach it.

--Arthur Schopenhauer

[Leto]

How do we know these are even his gedmatch results and not a random?
Those are almost certainly his results.

[Rgvgjhvv]

Those are almost certainly his results.

Okay so it's just speculation based on what he's said about himself.

[Leto]

Okay so it's just speculation based on what he's said about himself.
What speculation? What is your problem? Why can't they be his results? Gedmatch has over a million accounts, I believe. Do you think only faceless Apricity trolls can upload?

[Rgvgjhvv]

What speculation? What is your problem? Why can't they be his results? Gedmatch has over a million accounts, I believe. Do you think only faceless Apricity trolls can upload?

What is my problem? Hahaha what the fuck is your problem? Relax you mentalist. If you want them to be his results go ahead and jerk off to them what the hell do I care :lol:

[Leto]

GEDmatch was featured on the Dr. Oz Show back in January 2019
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/true-crime-dna-detective-cracked-oldest-cold-case-using-dna?video_id=5990214232001
Anymore proof? @Markos and @Peterski (don't send me sneaky rep comments when you can post in the thread, nothing controversial about it).

[CommonSense]

Basing only on Gedmatch Greeks score higher "Steppe" (Baltic + N.Atlantic scores).

I would say that they have pretty much similar ratio of Steppe ancestry, on average. Because there are outliers in both countries.

Mainland Greeks score like 3 times more steppe than Anatolians. Even Pashtuns have more steppe ancestry than Turks.

[Leto]

Mainland Greeks score like 3 times more steppe than Anatolians. Even Pashtuns have more steppe ancestry than Turks.
Yes, Turks with over 15% NE Euro usually have some kind of recent/additional European ancestry. Though Anatolian Turks have a substantial amount of Med which most Central Asians lack.

[CommonSense]

Yes, Turks with over 15% NE Euro usually have some kind of recent/additional European ancestry. Though Anatolian Turks have a substantial amount of Med which most Central Asians lack.

Agree. Also, I believe even Kazakhs and Uyghur have more NE Euro than Anatolian Turks, but not substantially. My guess is that the natives of Anatolia were almost entirely CHG + Neolithic, kinda like Georgians and Armenians.

[Leto]

Agree. Also, I believe even Kazakhs and Uyghur have more NE Euro than Anatolian Turks, but not substantially. My guess is that the natives of Anatolia were almost entirely CHG + Neolithic, kinda like Georgians and Armenians.
Correct. There was a Uyghur guy from Eastern Kazakhstan here, Yaglakar. He is 15% NE Euro (and 5% Med) which is a lot considering his location and the fact that he is over 40% Mongoloid.
Kazakh average on HarappaWorld is 14% NE Euro and 3% Med. Turkey's average would be at 10% or so (5-15%).

[Kivan]

Yes, Turks with over 15% NE Euro usually have some kind of recent/additional European ancestry. Though Anatolian Turks have a substantial amount of Med which most Central Asians lack.

Source?

That depends on what "Anatolian" you are referring to. The amount of "steppe" of Anatolian Turks results i've seen ranges from 15~25% depending on the region.
An user from Afyon (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?302759-Classify-me-(Turk-from-Afyon)) (Western Anatolia) shared his results here it's almost 19%:


Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Kit DA2718541

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 27.75
2 West_Asian 21.88
3 West_Med 13.83
4 North_Atlantic 9.82
5 Baltic 9.07
6 East_Asian 5.45
7 Siberian 5.17
8 Red_Sea 3.72
9 South_Asian 1.8
10 Oceanian 1.45
11 Northeast_African 0.06



The Northern Greeks results i've seen are generally 30~35% ish. Similar to the Balkan Turk ones.

[Sora]

This is probably similar to what I'll get

[Leto]

Source?

That depends on what "Anatolian" you are referring to. The amount of "steppe" of Anatolian Turks results i've seen ranges from 15~25% depending on the region.
An user from Afyon (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?302759-Classify-me-(Turk-from-Afyon)) (Western Anatolia) shared his results here it's almost 19%:



The Northern Greeks results i've seen are generally 30~35% ish. Similar to the Balkan Turk ones.
NE Euro doesn't equal Steppe. The Turkish DNA website is my source plus multiple other results I've seen here over the years.

[Kivan]

NE Euro doesn't equal Steppe. The Turkish DNA website is my source plus multiple other results I've seen here over the years.

I meant North Atlantic + Baltic. I checked the samples from that websites and here, as well.

From Sakarya (Western Turkey):



West Anatolian Turk (from Adapazarı)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.54
2 East_Med 22.28
3 West_Med 12.09
4 Siberian 10.16
5 Baltic 9.88
6 North_Atlantic 7.45
7 East_Asian 4.88
8 Red_Sea 3.06
9 South_Asian 1.70
10 Amerindian 1.65
11 Oceanian 1.32



Some regions have a good amount of N. Euro admixture while more Eastern/Southern have less.

[Leto]

I meant North Atlantic + Baltic. I checked the samples from that websites and here, as well.

From Sakarya (Western Turkey):




Some regions have a good amount of N. Euro admixture while more Eastern/Southern have less.
That's Eurogenes. Show me their HarappaWorld.

[Kyp]

I meant North Atlantic + Baltic. I checked the samples from that websites and here, as well.

From Sakarya (Western Turkey):




Some regions have a good amount of N. Euro admixture while more Eastern/Southern have less.

North_Atlantic isn't fully N.Euro.
N.Euro cline in Turkey is not that big.

[Salonikios]

That's Eurogenes. Show me their HarappaWorld.

There are many Crimean Tatars in Sakarya-Adapazarı. This result scores 15 Mongoloid. Are you sure this person does not have Tatar ancestry? Yörük result that Kaspias shared is better example.

[wvwvw]

Yes, I do. Found it by accident. I will send it to you in a rep comment.

I added his haplogroups.

Someone calling his profile Dr Oz on 23andme doesn't make him the real thing.

I call myself Monica Bellucci on 23andme. Look me up and add me :D

[itilvolga]

North_Atlantic isn't fully N.Euro.
N.Euro cline in Turkey is not that big.

NE is averagely around 12% among Turks on Dodecad K12b.

[Kyp]

NE is averagely around 12% among Turks on Dodecad K12b.

I know. I just meant the cline of N.Euro from West to Central and East (Kars etc.) is not big.

[Leto]

Someone calling his profile Dr Oz on 23andme doesn't make him the real thing.

I call myself Monica Bellucci on 23andme. Look me up and add me :D

GEDmatch was featured on the Dr. Oz Show back in January 2019
https://www.doctoroz.com/episode/true-crime-dna-detective-cracked-oldest-cold-case-using-dna?video_id=5990214232001
Anymore proof? @Markos and @Peterski (don't send me sneaky rep comments when you can post in the thread, nothing controversial about it).

[Maintenance]

that doesn't mean anything xD

[Leto]

I guess Dr. Oz would have to register on The Apricity so that some anonymous suckers can believe it's actually his results...

[itilvolga]

I know. I just meant the cline of N.Euro from West to Central and East (Kars etc.) is not big.

Sure, but those regions don’t have predominantly Anatolian Turks. Kars is almost full of Azeri for an instance. If we count exceptions, Edirne has 24.66 NE on average.

[Salonikios]

He would score like this if it is not his results whatever. His results are normal for his ancestry.

[Kaspias]

Sure, but those regions don’t have predominantly Anatolian Turks. Kars is almost full of Azeri for an instance. If we count exceptions, Edirne has 24.66 NE on average.

It is 21 in my data. Western & Northern Thrace is 24

[Hapanuwa]

That's Eurogenes. Show me their HarappaWorld.

Here you go

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.83
2 Mediterranean 14.53
3 NE-Euro 13.5
4 Baloch 12.05
5 SW-Asian 10.2
6 NE-Asian 5.04
7 Siberian 4.57
8 SE-Asian 1.68
9 Papuan 0.87
10 Pygmy 0.42
11 Beringian 0.17
12 S-Indian 0.14

What components does 'steppe' make up?

[Leto]

Here you go

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.83
2 Mediterranean 14.53
3 NE-Euro 13.5
4 Baloch 12.05
5 SW-Asian 10.2
6 NE-Asian 5.04
7 Siberian 4.57
8 SE-Asian 1.68
9 Papuan 0.87
10 Pygmy 0.42
11 Beringian 0.17
12 S-Indian 0.14

What components does 'steppe' make up?
These calculators don't have a single Steppe marker but in this particular case I'd say it's the NE-Euro because as CommonSense said earlier the Anatolians would have almost lacked that component, just like modern Lebanese or Armenians do (Armenians don't even score 5% on average).

[itilvolga]

It is 21 in my data. Western & Northern Thrace is 24

It’s 24.66 on Dodecad K12b according to Turkish DNA Project

[Ford]

J2... Gross

[Salonikios]

These calculators don't have a single Steppe marker but in this particular case I'd say it's the NE-Euro because as CommonSense said earlier the Anatolians would have almost lacked that component, just like modern Lebanese or Armenians do (Armenians don't even score 5% on average).

Yörüks are better examples for real Turks in Anatolia. Usually real Anatolians live in cities with less Turkic ancestry than Turkic tribes like Yörüks, Manavs and Cepni.

[Gaska]

My father

1- Iberian-44.54%
2- Italian-7.80%
3-North-Sea- 6.14%
4-East-Med-0%
5-East Balkan-0%
6-West-Med- 3.44%
7-East-Central-Euro-0.92%
8-North Atlantic-12,08%
9-Basque-18.44%
10-North African-0%
11-French-3,91%
12-Volga Ural-0%
13-Arabian-0%
14-Central_Euro-2.33%
15-West_Caucasian 0.40%

Gaska

1-Iberian-33.40 %
2-Italian-13.56 %
3-North-Sea-13.34 %
4-East-Med-5.65 %
5-East-Balkan-4.82 %
6-West-Med-4.55 %
7-East-Central-Euro-4.46 %
8-North-Atlantic-4.41 %
9- Basque-4.36 %
10-North-African-3.84 %
11-French-3.53 %
12-Volga-Ural-1.30 %
13-Arabian-1.06 %
14-Central-Euro-0.83 %
15-Northeast-African-0.60 %
16-Oceanian-0.19 %
17-Armenian-0.09 %

[Kyp]

Yörüks are better examples for real Turks in Anatolia. Usually real Anatolians live in cities with less Turkic ancestry than Turkic tribes like Yörüks, Manavs and Cepni.

90.000 people are not better examples of average Anatolian Turk. Also Yoruks aren't unmixed either.

[Salonikios]

90.000 people are not better examples of average Anatolian Turk. Also Yoruks aren't unmixed either.

Yörüks are nomads. So they were isolated from city populations. Though they are mixed but much less than other Turks in cities. Turks were nomads after all. They were not living in cities. Plus 90000 is very low number for them. There were much more. But they settled in cities.

[Maintenance]

These calculators don't have a single Steppe marker but in this particular case I'd say it's the NE-Euro because as CommonSense said earlier the Anatolians would have almost lacked that component, just like modern Lebanese or Armenians do (Armenians don't even score 5% on average).

k10 steppe calc

[Aileron]

how much North Euro would i score on those tests?

[Kyp]

how much North Euro would i score on those tests?

Around 15%