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Pedro Ruben
04-12-2021, 10:27 AM
Buenas, no conocia de nada este foro, pero me he hecho un analisis recientemente en myheritage, y tengo muchas curiosidades que investigar y debatir, y alguien me ha dado un enlace a este sitio. ¿Esto es un hilo generico donde comentar datos y curiosidades?

Edito: Me he leido las ultimas 10 paginas pero estais todos hablando de numerajos y de temas que solo vosotros sabeis que os traeis entre manos y no me entero de nada jajaj

PD: ¿En serio estais hablando entre gente de españa y portugal en el idioma de mordor? :picard1:

bienvenido / bem-vindo :)

Mantuano
04-12-2021, 11:06 AM
En verdad ninguna se salva, todas estas compañías tienen sus fallos a la hora de calcularte la estimación étnica, si bien My Heritage probablemente sea de las peores, pero bueno al menos te proporcionan los raw data genéticos tuyos y ya tú con eso puedes hacerlo prácticamente todo, tanto averiguar una estimación genética mucho más ajustada a la realidad como averiguar tu haplogrupo paterno.

Exactamente. De hecho, por Calidad/Precio MyHeritage no esta mal.

gixajo
04-12-2021, 11:08 AM
¿Y tú, has grabado ya el anuncio de la lotería de Navidad, o aún es demasiado pronto? xD

Esa compañía MyHeritage me parece una cagada de perro que flipas, por cierto... Y sí, ya vi como se incluía como español el Oliverio, jaja xD

Es tan buena y tan mala como cualquier otra, como te dice Juan, sus raw data siguen siendo válidos, y su estimación genética nos permite comparar con otros con la misma base.

Tampoco es especialmente mala para españoles, al fin y al cabo el compoennte Ibérico lo tienen más o menos claro y solemos puntuar en su mayoría en él.

Suarsenaguer
04-12-2021, 12:56 PM
Estas serían tus coordenadas del K13 para usar en Vahaduo.

Puedes hacer las coordenadas para cada calculador de Gedmatch que haya en Vahaduo de la misma forma que hice estas:tu nombre al principio, y despues separado por coma, los porcentajes en el orden de la tabla que posetaste, separados por comas también.

¿Todos tus abuelos son de Alicante?:


Suarsenaguer,39.3,11.41,25.4,2.26,16.28,2.74,1.4,0 ,0,0,0,1.18,0

Y los mapitas del k36:

https://i.imgur.com/th4x8Pr.png
https://i.imgur.com/DadTFaI.png
https://i.imgur.com/7C2QhfG.png


Gracias por los datos, pero no entiendo muy bien como va la pagina esa del vahaduo. Me sale la lista esa de las distancias, que me aparece el primero de todos portugues :rolleyes: y luego mas adelante varias combinaciones raras del rollo "castilla leon + judio yemenita" que no tengo ni idea como interpretar todo eso jajaj.

Mis abuelos son 2 de alicante y 2 de albacete. Lo cual me lleva a otra pregunta... ¿si hago un analisis de mis padres, puedo encontrarme nuevas sorpresas, o los datos van a ser los mismos, solo que separados?

Por cierto el halogrupo, segun una de esas paginas que dais, es R1b1a2a1a2c, que segun he leido por ahi, es el mas habitual en irlanda

¿Sabeis alguna forma (y si es fiable) de calcular cuanto se tiene de neandertal?

Y bueno, ya respecto a todo lo demas, hice tambien algunas otras pruebas. En la lista esa de comparaciones arcaicas, esa que te sale un fondo negro rellenado con barritas naranjas, los sitios donde abrumadoramente tengo mas coincidencias (aparece la barra casi pintada entera) son Isla Rathlin 1 (irlanda del norte), Ballynahatty (en belfast, tb irlanda del norte), Bichon (Suiza), Kotias (Georgia), Oakington-Cambridge (uK) y El portalon, españa (que no se donde esta)

Al mismo tiempo tambien estuve trasteando la pagina aquella de trueancestry, que me parecio un poco mas chorra y comercial (aunque igual hace un tratamiento serio de los datos, no lo se), en la que me decia que el pueblo antiguo que mas relacion tenia conmigo, eran de calle, LOS ILIRIOS. Salian mapitas en los que me sacaba origenes antiguos en el levante español, centro y norte de italia, yugoslavos-griegos y luego una franja en linea mas o menos recta con varios puntos salpicados, en la que el punto mas lejano eran escitas del este de ucrania, luego varios puntos sobre hungria y otros tantos en la zona de alsacia y lorena

Respecto a todo lo demas, si alguien me puede arrojar alguna forma de interpretar todos los datos lo agradeceria. Llevo ya mucho tiempo siendo friki y obseso con el tema de la genealogia, y ahora con esto tengo la cabeza echando humo, no paro de comparar distintos resultados a ver que saco en claro de aqui y de alla

En todas las paginas me sacan mas o menos datos coincidentes, respecto a marcadores de españa, de italia, de los balcanes y balticos. Yo la interpretacion historica que hago de todos esos datos, es que puedan ser debidos a los visigodos y vandalos. Los visigodos eran germanicos asentados en el este de europa, que comienzan su migracion primero hacia grecia, despues atraviesan toda la yugoslavia de SE a NO, despues italia y finalmente acaban en españa. Esto podria explicar esos marcadores difusos que salen en muchos sitios sobre "europa del este, balcanes, etc" (En muchas listas "oracle" de eas, me han salido nombrados grecia, serbia, en otros sitios que si los ilirios de la dalmacia...). Los vandalos a su vez, eran del baltico, con que esto podria explicar la relacion. No se si habra algun resto arqueologico puramente vandalo para comparar

Luego lo que si no entiendo nada es como myheritage y dnaland no me dan nada de atlantico-norteño, y luego en lo de gedmach me sale tantisimo de "atlantico norte", mar del norte, y todas esas cosas, con mas inri del supuesto halogrupo irlandes

En fin vosotros que ya llevais rodaje en toda esta movida, toda luz que me podais arrojar os la agradecere infinitamente XD

AlfonsoVIII
04-12-2021, 01:13 PM
Por cierto el halogrupo, segun una de esas paginas que dais, es R1b1a2a1a2c, que segun he leido por ahi, es el mas habitual en irlanda

Tu haplogrupo paterno es el R1b-L21. Es bastante común en toda la franja atlántica europea; alcanza su máximo en las islas británicas, sobre todo en Irlanda y Gales (60%), Escocia (40-50%) y el oeste y suroeste de Inglaterra, pero también se da en cantidades importantes en la Bretaña francesa y Normandía (30-45%) y todo el oeste de Francia en general. Así mismo tampoco es raro en los Países Bajos, Noruega, Islandia y la Península Ibérica, aunque aquí en concreto parece que es algo más común en Portugal que en España.

Aquí en España, sin ser demasiado frecuente, tampoco es nada extraño, de hecho creo que es la segunda variedad de R1b más frecuente en España después de DF27. Buena parte del L21 ibérico, especialmente en tu zona y toda la mitad oriental, debió llegar en época medieval con las repoblaciones de aquitanos, gascones y gente de zonas cercanas.

gixajo
04-12-2021, 01:37 PM
Gracias por los datos, pero no entiendo muy bien como va la pagina esa del vahaduo. Me sale la lista esa de las distancias, que me aparece el primero de todos portugues :rolleyes: y luego mas adelante varias combinaciones raras del rollo "castilla leon + judio yemenita" que no tengo ni idea como interpretar todo eso jajaj.

Mis abuelos son 2 de alicante y 2 de albacete. Lo cual me lleva a otra pregunta... ¿si hago un analisis de mis padres, puedo encontrarme nuevas sorpresas, o los datos van a ser los mismos, solo que separados?

Por cierto el halogrupo, segun una de esas paginas que dais, es R1b1a2a1a2c, que segun he leido por ahi, es el mas habitual en irlanda

¿Sabeis alguna forma (y si es fiable) de calcular cuanto se tiene de neandertal?

Y bueno, ya respecto a todo lo demas, hice tambien algunas otras pruebas. En la lista esa de comparaciones arcaicas, esa que te sale un fondo negro rellenado con barritas naranjas, los sitios donde abrumadoramente tengo mas coincidencias (aparece la barra casi pintada entera) son Isla Rathlin 1 (irlanda del norte), Ballynahatty (en belfast, tb irlanda del norte), Bichon (Suiza), Kotias (Georgia), Oakington-Cambridge (uK) y El portalon, españa (que no se donde esta)

Al mismo tiempo tambien estuve trasteando la pagina aquella de trueancestry, que me parecio un poco mas chorra y comercial (aunque igual hace un tratamiento serio de los datos, no lo se), en la que me decia que el pueblo antiguo que mas relacion tenia conmigo, eran de calle, LOS ILIRIOS. Salian mapitas en los que me sacaba origenes antiguos en el levante español, centro y norte de italia, yugoslavos-griegos y luego una franja en linea mas o menos recta con varios puntos salpicados, en la que el punto mas lejano eran escitas del este de ucrania, luego varios puntos sobre hungria y otros tantos en la zona de alsacia y lorena

Respecto a todo lo demas, si alguien me puede arrojar alguna forma de interpretar todos los datos lo agradeceria. Llevo ya mucho tiempo siendo friki y obseso con el tema de la genealogia, y ahora con esto tengo la cabeza echando humo, no paro de comparar distintos resultados a ver que saco en claro de aqui y de alla

En todas las paginas me sacan mas o menos datos coincidentes, respecto a marcadores de españa, de italia, de los balcanes y balticos. Yo la interpretacion historica que hago de todos esos datos, es que puedan ser debidos a los visigodos y vandalos. Los visigodos eran germanicos asentados en el este de europa, que comienzan su migracion primero hacia grecia, despues atraviesan toda la yugoslavia de SE a NO, despues italia y finalmente acaban en españa. Esto podria explicar esos marcadores difusos que salen en muchos sitios sobre "europa del este, balcanes, etc" (En muchas listas "oracle" de eas, me han salido nombrados grecia, serbia, en otros sitios que si los ilirios de la dalmacia...). Los vandalos a su vez, eran del baltico, con que esto podria explicar la relacion. No se si habra algun resto arqueologico puramente vandalo para comparar

Luego lo que si no entiendo nada es como myheritage y dnaland no me dan nada de atlantico-norteño, y luego en lo de gedmach me sale tantisimo de "atlantico norte", mar del norte, y todas esas cosas, con mas inri del supuesto halogrupo irlandes

En fin vosotros que ya llevais rodaje en toda esta movida, toda luz que me podais arrojar os la agradecere infinitamente XD

Son muchas las dudas que planteas o la información que solicitas,y yo no soy ningún experto en estos temas, cuesta tiempo tener un concepto claro de lo que puede dar de sí todo esto. No te tomes ningún resultado como si fuera algo 100% seguro, como te dije, tienes que ver un montón diferentes y ver hacia donde tiran en general, los hay mejores y peores, pero todos pueden darte información si sabes interpretarlos.

Sí, es normal que te salga Portugal como primera distancia, la media portuguesa va muy bien a la mayoría de españoles, es muy similar a la media de Castilla y León, o una media entre Andalucía y Galicia.

El R1b donde es más habitual es en las islas Británicas y la península Ibérica, y luego en general en Europa occidental, a el tuyo R1b-L21, le pueden atribuir ese origen general, pero hay como cierta lucha soterrada por parte de los británicos de adjudicarse orígenes de varios R1b, habría que mirar más allá en subclados específicos para adjudicar un orígen en mi opinión.

Tener cualquier R1b es lo más habitual en españoles y portugueses, yo pensaba tener un R1b, pero no fue así.

MyHeritage hace una estimación cutos componentes coinciden con poblaciones/países/etnias actuales más fáciles de digerir, de comprender para el público general, Gedmatch te indica "componentes" más difusos, cada calculador usa los suyos.

Todas o casi todas las muestras individuales antiguas que te dice MyTrueAncestry puedes encontrarlas en vahaduo.

Piensa que los oracles de Gedmatch lo que hacen es modelarte respecto a unas referencias, y esos resultados no te dan direcatmente una mezcla real que coincida con tus antepasados, si no más bien "a qué mezcla se parece más lo que hemos visto en tu adn".

En YourDnaPortal me suena que algo te decían sobre tu adn neandertal. La compañía que suele dárte información sobre eso es 23andMe, y creo que Adntro, también.

Hay varios samples neandertales en el k13 de Vahaduo, un día los incluí en un calculador que hice, y puntuábamos algo varios de nosotros.

Para usar el k13 con todo el datasheet, mejor cambia la opción ADD DIST COL:NO a ADD DIST COL:0.5X, si no te saldrán resultados muy fraccionados. Básicamente es una configuracion que añade una penalización para evitar ruido y obtener, te aumenta la distancia general, pero a la vez te da resultados más realistas. COn pocas referencias en las "sources" no es tan necesario añadir esa penalización.

Parece que ya lo has probado, solo hay que poner tus coordenadas en "target", luego ir a "single" y ahí cambias lo que te he dicho y le das al boton con tu nombre.

Estamos intentando mejorar las referencias presentes en el datasheet, hice el otro día una referencia para Castellón, de Alicante aún no tenemos, pero pronto habrá.

Puedes probar por ejemplo, tus coordenadas con estas sources solamente:


España_Asturias:(n=3),41.82,10.32,27.78,1.66,11.54 ,3.32,0.00,0.67,0.26,0.26,0.90,1.04,0.43
España_Álava:(n=4),48.52,9.15,29.17,0.44,8.44,1.69 ,0.34,0.39,0.04,0.29,0.35,0.61,0.59
España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4),38.89,9.72,27.55, 2.66,13.74,2.94,0.14,0.58,0.43,0.28,0.36,1.70,1.03
España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6),38.57,9.77,29.37,1. 82,12.22,4.53,0.47,0.16,0.04,0.28,0.43,1.01,1.34
España_Cantabria:(n=2),42.14,11.70,29.22,0.25,11.4 8,2.13,0.26,0.00,0.36,0.50,0.39,1.46,0.14
España_Castellón:(n=3),43.07,10.44,26.28,4.14,11.2 1,1.93,0.09,0.69,0.20,0.41,0.35,0.36,0.85
España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4),39.68,11.09,26.59,1.9 2,13.90,2.69,0.29,0.14,0.12,0.55,0.53,1.96,0.54
España_Extremadura:(n=3),36.72,9.90,28.32,1.52,15. 22,3.18,1.01,0.65,0.33,0.12,0.53,1.02,1.48
España_Lleida:average(n=4),40.04,11.68,27.60,1.97, 13.87,3.07,0.00,0.40,0.45,0.08,0.45,0.41,0.00
España_Girona:average(n=3),41.97,10.89,27.31,3.21, 11.96,2.21,0.50,0.00,1.08,0.27,0.21,0.03,0.35
España_Penedés:average(n=8),40.22,13.86,25.59,3.32 ,13.02,1.59,0.71,0.17,0.21,0.55,0.14,0.43,0.19

Borra todas las "sources" de aquí, y copias y pegas las que te puse ariba, luego pones tus coordenadas en "target", vas a single y sin cambiar nada de la configuración, posteas lo que te sale.

Tiene muchas configuraciones y formas de presentar los resultados, vete probando con todas.

gixajo
04-12-2021, 01:44 PM
O con todas las referencias españolas presentes en el datasheet, puedes elegir las que te mostró MyHeritage en sus resultados, para ver si te vuelven a salir en el k13, haciendo un modelo customizado para tí:


Spanish,40.45,10.02,27.74,2.32,12.96,2.9,0.58,0.31 ,0.27,0.35,0.26,1.13,0.69
Spanish:_Andalucia,39.07,8.19,29.07,3.83,14.11,1.9 5,0.60,0.29,0.63,0.02,0.40,1.28,0.57
Spanish:_Aragon,43.83,8.27,29.79,1.32,12.05,2.37,0 .40,0.25,0.50,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.04
Spanish:_Cantabria,41.79,11.49,29.27,1.75,10.20,2. 37,0.45,0.03,0.13,0.49,0.47,0.80,0.75
Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha,41.09,9.37,28.52,2.72, 12.42,2.88,0.47,0.22,0.21,0.31,0.08,1.42,0.29
Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon,40.76,11.13,26.09,1.86,12 .82,3.49,0.04,0.51,0.05,0.28,0.18,2.01,0.78
Spanish:_Cataluna,41.36,12.13,25.78,3.08,13.09,1.5 1,0.69,0.59,0.06,0.06,0.43,0.45,0.77
Spanish:_Extremadura,38.27,9.67,26.84,3.32,13.73,4 .26,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.62,0.20,1.23,1.22
Spanish:_Galicia,38.51,12.18,26.23,1.97,11.93,4.55 ,1.49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Spanish:_Murcia,40.15,9.33,26.12,2.21,14.57,2.92,0 .21,0.88,0.67,0.60,0.11,1.44,0.78
Spanish:_Valencia,40.54,10.58,27.72,1.90,14.85,1.3 2,0.88,0.29,0.04,0.41,0.50,0.31,0.65
Balkan,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25,0.3 4,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06
Baltic,28.87,53.90,7.17,3.91,1.48,0.76,1.34,0.06,0 .82,0.77,0.41,0.29,0.22
Irish,52.49,22.93,12.53,6.86,1.44,0.46,1.37,0.18,0 .25,0.82,0.29,0.15,0.14
Sardinia,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0 .03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1

gixajo
04-12-2021, 01:47 PM
Spanish,40.45,10.02,27.74,2.32,12.96,2.9,0.58,0.31 ,0.27,0.35,0.26,1.13,0.69
Spanish:_Andalucia,39.07,8.19,29.07,3.83,14.11,1.9 5,0.60,0.29,0.63,0.02,0.40,1.28,0.57
Spanish:_Aragon,43.83,8.27,29.79,1.32,12.05,2.37,0 .40,0.25,0.50,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.04
Spanish:_Cantabria,41.79,11.49,29.27,1.75,10.20,2. 37,0.45,0.03,0.13,0.49,0.47,0.80,0.75
Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha,41.09,9.37,28.52,2.72, 12.42,2.88,0.47,0.22,0.21,0.31,0.08,1.42,0.29
Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon,40.76,11.13,26.09,1.86,12 .82,3.49,0.04,0.51,0.05,0.28,0.18,2.01,0.78
Spanish:_Cataluna,41.36,12.13,25.78,3.08,13.09,1.5 1,0.69,0.59,0.06,0.06,0.43,0.45,0.77
Spanish:_Extremadura,38.27,9.67,26.84,3.32,13.73,4 .26,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.62,0.20,1.23,1.22
Spanish:_Galicia,38.51,12.18,26.23,1.97,11.93,4.55 ,1.49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Spanish:_Murcia,40.15,9.33,26.12,2.21,14.57,2.92,0 .21,0.88,0.67,0.60,0.11,1.44,0.78
Spanish:_Valencia,40.54,10.58,27.72,1.90,14.85,1.3 2,0.88,0.29,0.04,0.41,0.50,0.31,0.65
Balkan,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25,0.3 4,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06
Baltic,28.87,53.90,7.17,3.91,1.48,0.76,1.34,0.06,0 .82,0.77,0.41,0.29,0.22
Irish,52.49,22.93,12.53,6.86,1.44,0.46,1.37,0.18,0 .25,0.82,0.29,0.15,0.14
Sardinia,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0 .03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1


Estos serían mis resultados y los de mis padres:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 4.4496% / 4.44962041
99.1 Spanish
0.9 Baltic

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.7074% / 2.70741117
87.0 Spanish
12.9 Sardinia
0.1 Baltic

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 4.0369% / 4.03687810
92.0 Spanish
8.0 Irish

gixajo
04-12-2021, 01:51 PM
Y la opción "2WAYS" es bastante interesante, y de este tipo de resultados, diferentes formas válidas de modelarte a través de tus coordenadas, con las referencias disponibles en las sources, que son las mismas sources del anterior post:

Distance to: gixajo_mom
4.29195658 94.40% Spanish:_Cantabria + 5.60% Irish
4.44864035 18.60% Spanish:_Aragon + 81.40% Spanish:_Cantabria
4.55921973 87.40% Spanish:_Aragon + 12.60% Irish
4.76143012 94.20% Spanish:_Aragon + 5.80% Baltic
5.64000465 89.40% Spanish:_Aragon + 10.60% Spanish:_Galicia
5.67537617 91.00% Spanish:_Aragon + 9.00% Spanish:_Cataluna
5.69842213 95.40% Spanish:_Aragon + 4.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.40465495 87.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 13.00% Irish
6.98500093 87.00% Spanish + 13.00% Irish
7.16994459 97.40% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 2.60% Baltic
7.27307979 88.40% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 11.60% Spanish:_Cataluna
7.57622767 59.20% Irish + 40.80% Sardinia
7.75122438 79.40% Spanish + 20.60% Spanish:_Cataluna
7.76783909 99.00% Spanish + 1.00% Baltic
7.78430513 96.20% Spanish + 3.80% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.78539383 84.40% Spanish:_Valencia + 15.60% Irish
7.79893482 91.00% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 9.00% Irish
7.98589414 78.40% Spanish:_Andalucia + 21.60% Irish
8.02227548 59.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 40.40% Spanish:_Cataluna
8.11170032 89.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 10.40% Spanish:_Valencia
8.16033824 95.20% Spanish:_Cataluna + 4.80% Irish
8.21214076 85.80% Spanish:_Cataluna + 14.20% Spanish:_Galicia
8.23743880 94.80% Spanish:_Cataluna + 5.20% Spanish:_Valencia
8.55889676 41.40% Spanish:_Galicia + 58.60% Spanish:_Valencia
8.63146808 88.20% Spanish:_Galicia + 11.80% Irish

Distance to: gixajo_dad
3.40531766 86.40% Spanish:_Galicia + 13.60% Sardinia
3.82917656 86.60% Spanish:_Cantabria + 13.40% Sardinia
4.07571906 84.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 15.40% Sardinia
4.43787952 89.20% Spanish + 10.80% Sardinia
4.68288229 89.60% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 10.40% Sardinia
4.69838120 49.00% Spanish:_Cantabria + 51.00% Spanish:_Extremadura
4.86866881 45.40% Spanish:_Cantabria + 54.60% Spanish:_Galicia
4.94719460 91.00% Spanish:_Extremadura + 9.00% Sardinia
4.94798634 36.60% Spanish:_Andalucia + 63.40% Spanish:_Galicia
4.95990097 46.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 54.00% Spanish:_Galicia
4.99925026 27.60% Spanish:_Aragon + 72.40% Spanish:_Galicia
5.12398369 48.20% Spanish + 51.80% Spanish:_Galicia
5.15901775 39.40% Spanish:_Andalucia + 60.60% Spanish:_Cantabria
5.23701948 48.20% Irish + 51.80% Sardinia
5.23852284 91.80% Spanish:_Cantabria + 8.20% Balkan
5.24814248 42.80% Spanish:_Extremadura + 57.20% Spanish:_Galicia
5.27259025 57.40% Spanish + 42.60% Spanish:_Cantabria
5.28130830 49.40% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 50.60% Spanish:_Extremadura
5.32665585 25.00% Spanish:_Aragon + 75.00% Spanish:_Extremadura
5.35509973 56.80% Spanish + 43.20% Spanish:_Extremadura
5.40366309 47.20% Spanish:_Cantabria + 52.80% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha
5.41353551 85.40% Spanish:_Galicia + 14.60% Spanish:_Valencia
5.46960420 97.00% Spanish:_Galicia + 3.00% Spanish:_Murcia
5.49388032 74.40% Spanish:_Cantabria + 25.60% Spanish:_Murcia
5.49771441 95.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 5.00% Balkan

Distance to: gixajo
4.44973946 99.00% Spanish:_Cantabria + 1.00% Baltic
4.46926553 96.00% Spanish:_Cantabria + 4.00% Spanish:_Galicia
4.46978457 99.20% Spanish:_Cantabria + 0.80% Irish
5.83047686 91.80% Spanish:_Aragon + 8.20% Baltic
5.86787344 45.40% Spanish:_Aragon + 54.60% Spanish:_Galicia
6.08475671 95.40% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 4.60% Baltic
6.16718109 92.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 8.00% Irish
6.21679888 60.20% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 39.80% Spanish:_Galicia
6.22401264 56.20% Irish + 43.80% Sardinia
6.52160540 10.00% Spanish:_Aragon + 90.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.67421433 45.20% Spanish + 54.80% Spanish:_Galicia
6.70244678 51.00% Spanish:_Aragon + 49.00% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.70519764 92.20% Spanish + 7.80% Irish
6.77127662 60.20% Spanish + 39.80% Spanish:_Aragon
6.81697367 90.00% Spanish:_Aragon + 10.00% Irish
6.82239744 95.60% Spanish:_Galicia + 4.40% Irish
6.84098937 97.00% Spanish + 3.00% Baltic
6.88172653 19.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 80.40% Spanish:_Galicia
6.88342157 65.80% Spanish:_Aragon + 34.20% Spanish:_Extremadura
6.88513303 9.60% Spanish:_Andalucia + 90.40% Spanish:_Galicia
6.90802647 99.20% Spanish:_Galicia + 0.80% Sardinia
7.01909962 95.00% Spanish + 5.00% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.05028637 93.40% Spanish:_Aragon + 6.60% Balkan
7.05591099 69.60% Spanish:_Aragon + 30.40% Spanish:_Cataluna
7.30115558 11.40% Spanish:_Andalucia + 88.60% Spanish:_Aragon

gixajo
04-12-2021, 02:00 PM
Este sería tu resultado con las segundas sources:

Distance to: Suarsenaguer
2.60513474 90.80% Spanish:_Murcia + 9.20% Balkan
2.72952597 90.00% Spanish:_Valencia + 10.00% Balkan
2.94966035 96.40% Spanish:_Murcia + 3.60% Baltic
3.24055026 58.00% Spanish:_Murcia + 42.00% Spanish:_Valencia
3.29352831 38.00% Spanish:_Extremadura + 62.00% Spanish:_Valencia
3.30561682 28.00% Spanish:_Cataluna + 72.00% Spanish:_Murcia
3.32424782 89.00% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 11.00% Balkan
3.32992186 87.60% Spanish + 12.40% Balkan
3.33190491 29.80% Spanish:_Galicia + 70.20% Spanish:_Valencia
3.35204943 20.60% Spanish:_Galicia + 79.40% Spanish:_Murcia
3.36899455 97.00% Spanish:_Valencia + 3.00% Baltic
3.45626783 16.80% Spanish:_Extremadura + 83.20% Spanish:_Murcia
3.46382053 33.60% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 66.40% Spanish:_Valencia
3.47964792 98.80% Spanish:_Murcia + 1.20% Irish
3.48593325 8.80% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 91.20% Spanish:_Murcia
3.52550275 48.40% Spanish:_Cataluna + 51.60% Spanish:_Extremadura
3.56852930 74.80% Spanish:_Aragon + 25.20% Balkan
3.60406024 25.60% Spanish:_Cataluna + 74.40% Spanish:_Valencia
3.67990429 98.20% Spanish:_Valencia + 1.80% Irish
3.77618202 90.80% Spanish:_Cataluna + 9.20% Balkan
3.85419304 84.00% Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha + 16.00% Balkan
3.90083616 93.80% Spanish:_Cataluna + 6.20% Sardinia
3.90342180 48.80% Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon + 51.20% Spanish:_Extremadura
4.04275686 30.00% Spanish:_Andalucia + 70.00% Spanish:_Cataluna
4.08080445 97.20% Spanish:_Extremadura + 2.80% Baltic


Y este con las primeras que posteé:

Distance to: Suarsenaguer
3.12030698 84.00% España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4) + 16.00% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
3.13053213 48.80% España_Extremadura:(n=3) + 51.20% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
3.14261865 85.80% España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4) + 14.20% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
3.19139963 95.40% España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4) + 4.60% España_Lleida:average(n=4)
3.52905795 56.20% España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4) + 43.80% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
3.56080656 30.60% España_Extremadura:(n=3) + 69.40% España_Lleida:average(n=4)
3.68366939 73.60% España_Lleida:average(n=4) + 26.40% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
3.71599430 30.20% España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4) + 69.80% España_Lleida:average(n=4)
3.96896025 30.80% España_Castellón:(n=3) + 69.20% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
3.97854911 62.60% España_Extremadura:(n=3) + 37.40% España_Girona:average(n=3)
4.13963564 72.00% España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4) + 28.00% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
4.19927361 28.40% España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6) + 71.60% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
4.22591171 93.20% España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4) + 6.80% España_Girona:average(n=3)
4.34163667 29.40% España_Asturias:(n=3) + 70.60% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
4.46022667 22.20% España_Cantabria:(n=2) + 77.80% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
4.50078812 10.80% España_Álava:(n=4) + 89.20% España_Extremadura:(n=3)
4.51397057 18.80% España_Asturias:(n=3) + 81.20% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
4.59826090 12.80% España_Girona:average(n=3) + 87.20% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
4.61477810 6.20% España_Cantabria:(n=2) + 93.80% España_Penedés:average(n=8)
5.54571149 36.60% España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6) + 63.40% España_Girona:average(n=3)
5.85716928 58.80% España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6) + 41.20% España_Castellón:(n=3)
5.85874657 12.20% España_Asturias:(n=3) + 87.80% España_Girona:average(n=3)
6.04974643 55.60% España_Asturias:(n=3) + 44.40% España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
6.26323489 69.00% España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6) + 31.00% España_Cantabria:(n=2)
6.30326430 87.80% España_Asturias:(n=3) + 12.20% España_Castellón:(n=3)

Y por las distancias, pareces estar a medio camino entre un Catalán de Lérida y uno de Castilla y León, lo que me parece bastante razonable para tus orígenes.

Primeras sources:

Distance to: Suarsenaguer
3.19294535 España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4)
3.81914912 España_Lleida:average(n=4)
4.23633096 España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4)
4.62909278 España_Penedés:average(n=8)
4.74578761 España_Extremadura:(n=3)
5.86784458 España_Girona:average(n=3)
6.31866283 España_Asturias:(n=3)
6.46874022 España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
7.05275124 España_Castellón:(n=3)
7.21966758 España_Cantabria:(n=2)
13.12883468 España_Álava:(n=4)


Segundas sources, sale Murcia y Valencia, que también me parece razonable para tí:

Distance to: Suarsenaguer
3.49482475 Spanish:_Murcia
3.70855767 Spanish:_Valencia
4.31003480 Spanish:_Extremadura
4.34747053 Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.40884339 Spanish:_Cataluna
4.61431468 Spanish
5.07408120 Spanish:_Galicia
5.77099645 Spanish:_Andalucia
5.78208440 Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha
7.78684789 Spanish:_Cantabria
8.40553389 Spanish:_Aragon
22.95630197 Balkan
26.84846737 Irish
31.31760048 Sardinia
49.74416448 Baltic

Tampoco esperes una gran precisión determinando orígenes a nivel regional o provincial, incluso en muchos casos determinar si uno es portugués o español es complicado o directamente imposible.

Suarsenaguer
04-12-2021, 02:36 PM
Mil gracias por todos los datos, luego mas tarde los repasare con calma, que aun no me queda muy claro como funciona ese rollo de las sumas, las distancias y toda la movida. Lo del tema "lerida" que dices puede tener una explicacion mas reciente, y es que indagando la genealogia, encontre una tatarabuela de mi abuelo que era de reus. Eso puede insuflar marcadores de esa zona mas recientes o directos.

Por parte de madre he conseguido extender un arbol muy amplio, con muchas ramas que llegan hasta el principio de los registros en el 1500 y por lo general, todos los documentos encontrados correspondian a zonas de la meseta sur (espectro entre albacete-cuenca-toledo). Por la otra rama no he conseguido llegar antes del 1800, pero todos los datos eran de nacidos en el levante, desperdigados varios entre provincias de alicante-murcia. Como curiosidades, por ej. si que me salia un tatatata, con el apellido "aleman", que no se si seria un apellido que en su momento, se lo dieran a alguien de ese origen, al estilo del apellido Japon en sevilla o similares

Lo del origen irlandes de algunos genes... pues yo soy de los que tienen claro que en las islas no hay ningun origen. Es decir, lo logico es que la genetica sea mas bien originaria de los continentes, y que despues de estos pasara a las islas, que por logica serian pobladas en fecha posterior. Pero bueno, cuando se dice el grupo "irlandes" es para entendernos, de que es el mas comun alli. Lo que es imposible de saber es si mi origen es de alguien que vino de alla, o de una rama aun mas antigua, antes de que se dividieran y unos se fueran para alla y otros hipoteticamente para aqui

Lo del neandertal en la pagina que dices ya lo vi, pero para ese dato en concreto te piden que pagues un suplemento. Como no se si es fiable ya vere, que no esta la cosa pa regalar dinero

Si te dejo una pregunta: ¿que opinas respecto a las diferencias entre tus datos y los de tus padres? ¿le ves logica y encuadra todo? ¿o te aparecen diferencias extrañas entre ellos y tu?

Y bueno, te cito a ti, pero las curiosidades van para todos obviamente, cualquiera que sepa algo sobre los temas XD
Es que por una parte me parece muy curioso eso que se dice que la genetica en una misma familia puede saltar escalones (lo tipico de varios hermanos, que unos se parecen al padre, otros ala madre, otros a alguno de los abuelos, otro a otros, etc) ¿Es posible que a unos les toquen unas caracteristicas arcaicas concretas, y a otros hermanos otras, y aparezcan origenes distintos? No entiendo esta movida de las diferencias, y que sin embargo luego se pueda determinar la consanguineidad entre los familiares

En fin no me quiero enrollar ahora por no saturar. Ya ire comentando cosas poco a poco jaja

gixajo
04-12-2021, 06:23 PM
Si te dejo una pregunta: ¿que opinas respecto a las diferencias entre tus datos y los de tus padres? ¿le ves logica y encuadra todo? ¿o te aparecen diferencias extrañas entre ellos y tu?

Me costó un rato , pero sí, les encuentré la lógica, también ten en cuenta que esto no es una ciencia exacta, y que el K13 ya está un poco desfasado, pero aprendiendo a interpretar lo que ves, tiene lógica y todo (más o menos) cuadra.


¿Es posible que a unos les toquen unas caracteristicas arcaicas concretas, y a otros hermanos otras, y aparezcan origenes distintos? No entiendo esta movida de las diferencias, y que sin embargo luego se pueda determinar la consanguineidad entre los familiares


Sí, claro.

gixajo
04-12-2021, 06:25 PM
Si te dejo una pregunta: ¿que opinas respecto a las diferencias entre tus datos y los de tus padres? ¿le ves logica y encuadra todo? ¿o te aparecen diferencias extrañas entre ellos y tu?

Me costó un rato , pero sí, les encuentré la lógica, también ten en cuenta que esto no es una ciencia exacta, y que el K13 ya está un poco desfasado, pero aprendiendo a interpretar lo que ves, tiene lógica y todo (más o menos) cuadra.


¿Es posible que a unos les toquen unas caracteristicas arcaicas concretas, y a otros hermanos otras, y aparezcan origenes distintos? No entiendo esta movida de las diferencias, y que sin embargo luego se pueda determinar la consanguineidad entre los familiares


Sí, claro.

Suarsenaguer
05-14-2021, 08:14 PM
Spanish,40.45,10.02,27.74,2.32,12.96,2.9,0.58,0.31 ,0.27,0.35,0.26,1.13,0.69
Spanish:_Andalucia,39.07,8.19,29.07,3.83,14.11,1.9 5,0.60,0.29,0.63,0.02,0.40,1.28,0.57
Spanish:_Aragon,43.83,8.27,29.79,1.32,12.05,2.37,0 .40,0.25,0.50,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.04
Spanish:_Cantabria,41.79,11.49,29.27,1.75,10.20,2. 37,0.45,0.03,0.13,0.49,0.47,0.80,0.75
Spanish:_Castilla_La_Mancha,41.09,9.37,28.52,2.72, 12.42,2.88,0.47,0.22,0.21,0.31,0.08,1.42,0.29
Spanish:_Castilla_Y_Leon,40.76,11.13,26.09,1.86,12 .82,3.49,0.04,0.51,0.05,0.28,0.18,2.01,0.78
Spanish:_Cataluna,41.36,12.13,25.78,3.08,13.09,1.5 1,0.69,0.59,0.06,0.06,0.43,0.45,0.77
Spanish:_Extremadura,38.27,9.67,26.84,3.32,13.73,4 .26,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.62,0.20,1.23,1.22
Spanish:_Galicia,38.51,12.18,26.23,1.97,11.93,4.55 ,1.49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Spanish:_Murcia,40.15,9.33,26.12,2.21,14.57,2.92,0 .21,0.88,0.67,0.60,0.11,1.44,0.78
Spanish:_Valencia,40.54,10.58,27.72,1.90,14.85,1.3 2,0.88,0.29,0.04,0.41,0.50,0.31,0.65
Balkan,22.14,21.18,20.02,11.03,21.55,2.24,0.25,0.3 4,0.43,0.38,0.35,0.04,0.06
Baltic,28.87,53.90,7.17,3.91,1.48,0.76,1.34,0.06,0 .82,0.77,0.41,0.29,0.22
Irish,52.49,22.93,12.53,6.86,1.44,0.46,1.37,0.18,0 .25,0.82,0.29,0.15,0.14
Sardinia,23.14,1.64,49.58,0.38,22.02,2.41,0,0.13,0 .03,0,0.31,0.26,0.1


Estos serían mis resultados y los de mis padres:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 4.4496% / 4.44962041
99.1 Spanish
0.9 Baltic

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.7074% / 2.70741117
87.0 Spanish
12.9 Sardinia
0.1 Baltic

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 4.0369% / 4.03687810
92.0 Spanish
8.0 Irish

Buenas, veo que esta esto parado (yo mismo he estado liado desde la ultima vez)

Viendo que tu habias hecho analisis a familiares, me ha dado el venazo de hacerselo al unico abuelo que me queda vivo (por madre), ya que no me perdonaria la curiosidad de no hacerlo mientras aun puedo. Aunque me han hecho una putada, pues el paquete de myheritage ha estado muchas semanas (no se si inclusos meses) en oferta de 60 pavos y ahora de repente esta a 80. ¿Sabeis si van a poner promocion pronto, o si hay alguna forma de obtener algun codigo de descuento? Que no esta la cosa para tirar muchos billetes con estos caprichos...

¿Que explicacion le das a datos tan dispares a los tuyos con respecto los de tus padres? Es muy raro todo. Por una parte esta claro que nada de esto es una estafa y que los analisis son fiables, pues cuando mandas paquetes de otros familiares el sistema los detecta como geneticamente proximos, no nos la estan colando. Pero el tema de las localizaciones es un misterio

Es decir, si a tu madre le sale un 8% de "irlanda"... ¿como es que a ti no te sale ni un misero pequeño porcentaje de ello? Sean los que sean los indicadores habituales de esa zona, si los tiene tu madre, tu deberias de sacar alguna traza, no¿

Defcon2
05-14-2021, 09:30 PM
Buenas, veo que esta esto parado (yo mismo he estado liado desde la ultima vez)

Viendo que tu habias hecho analisis a familiares, me ha dado el venazo de hacerselo al unico abuelo que me queda vivo (por madre), ya que no me perdonaria la curiosidad de no hacerlo mientras aun puedo. Aunque me han hecho una putada, pues el paquete de myheritage ha estado muchas semanas (no se si inclusos meses) en oferta de 60 pavos y ahora de repente esta a 80. ¿Sabeis si van a poner promocion pronto, o si hay alguna forma de obtener algun codigo de descuento? Que no esta la cosa para tirar muchos billetes con estos caprichos...

¿Que explicacion le das a datos tan dispares a los tuyos con respecto los de tus padres? Es muy raro todo. Por una parte esta claro que nada de esto es una estafa y que los analisis son fiables, pues cuando mandas paquetes de otros familiares el sistema los detecta como geneticamente proximos, no nos la estan colando. Pero el tema de las localizaciones es un misterio

Es decir, si a tu madre le sale un 8% de "irlanda"... ¿como es que a ti no te sale ni un misero pequeño porcentaje de ello? Sean los que sean los indicadores habituales de esa zona, si los tiene tu madre, tu deberias de sacar alguna traza, no¿

Myheritage continuamente está haciendo ofertas asi que no me preocuparía.

El resultado de las calculadoras varía según las referencias que uses, que un español obtenga un 8% de Irlanda es absurdo desde un punto de vista coherente a no ser que tenga ascendencia del norte de Europa, eso sucede por que las referencias utilizadas no son buenas para él, no son lo suficientemente representativas para captar toda la variedad de la peninsula ibérica, etc...

Suarsenaguer
05-15-2021, 02:13 AM
Myheritage continuamente está haciendo ofertas asi que no me preocuparía.

El resultado de las calculadoras varía según las referencias que uses, que un español obtenga un 8% de Irlanda es absurdo desde un punto de vista coherente a no ser que tenga ascendencia del norte de Europa, eso sucede por que las referencias utilizadas no son buenas para él, no son lo suficientemente representativas para captar toda la variedad de la peninsula ibérica, etc...

No se que tiene de absurdo...

Todos los que hayamos llegado hasa este foro, suponqo que tenemos claro como funciona la movida. Ya se sobreentiende que no hay genes exclusivos de un pais. Pero que te salga un 8% de irlanda, viene a decir que tienes un 8% que se asemeja a lo que mas abunda alli. Y eso obviamente, vendria a significar, bien que tenemos parte de origen comun (algo que ya se presupone por la simple propia historia y las ramas celtas), o que incluso tengas realmente algun antepasado directamente irlandes, que tampoco seria un hecho disparatado

Lo que si que soy incapaz de entender es que a una madre le saquen un 8% de irlandes y al hijo nada de nada, siquiera una leve traza. Pues lo logico es que padres e hijos sacaran porcentajes de las mismas supuestas ascendencias, pero eso de que salgan cosas tan distintas... no se. Me descoloca

Respecto a lo de las ofertas, me han hecho una grandisima putada. Pues ahora con toda la mierda del virus, las oportuidades de visita al abuelo son muy remotas. Este mes tenian que ir a verlo mis padres y era una ocasion perfecta para aprovechar. Tiene una edad muy muy avanzada, y no se cuando sera la proxima ocasion que podremos verlo. Vale que si, solo son 20 y pico pavos de diferencia de con oferta o sin oferta, pero joder, tal como esta el patio... no esta la cosa para mucho derroche. Mas aun cuando como dices, las ofertas son habituales. Me jode hacer el canelo y tirar el dinero mas de la cuenta

Si alguien supiera algun sitio donde den codigos de descuento o algo lo agradeceria. Mas que nada por aprovechar como digo la ocasiaon de este mes, que despues cualquiera sabe

Mantuano
05-15-2021, 10:16 AM
No se que tiene de absurdo...

Todos los que hayamos llegado hasa este foro, suponqo que tenemos claro como funciona la movida. Ya se sobreentiende que no hay genes exclusivos de un pais. Pero que te salga un 8% de irlanda, viene a decir que tienes un 8% que se asemeja a lo que mas abunda alli. Y eso obviamente, vendria a significar, bien que tenemos parte de origen comun (algo que ya se presupone por la simple propia historia y las ramas celtas), o que incluso tengas realmente algun antepasado directamente irlandes, que tampoco seria un hecho disparatado

Lo que si que soy incapaz de entender es que a una madre le saquen un 8% de irlandes y al hijo nada de nada, siquiera una leve traza. Pues lo logico es que padres e hijos sacaran porcentajes de las mismas supuestas ascendencias, pero eso de que salgan cosas tan distintas... no se. Me descoloca

Respecto a lo de las ofertas, me han hecho una grandisima putada. Pues ahora con toda la mierda del virus, las oportuidades de visita al abuelo son muy remotas. Este mes tenian que ir a verlo mis padres y era una ocasion perfecta para aprovechar. Tiene una edad muy muy avanzada, y no se cuando sera la proxima ocasion que podremos verlo. Vale que si, solo son 20 y pico pavos de diferencia de con oferta o sin oferta, pero joder, tal como esta el patio... no esta la cosa para mucho derroche. Mas aun cuando como dices, las ofertas son habituales. Me jode hacer el canelo y tirar el dinero mas de la cuenta

Si alguien supiera algun sitio donde den codigos de descuento o algo lo agradeceria. Mas que nada por aprovechar como digo la ocasiaon de este mes, que despues cualquiera sabe

MyHeritage siempre pone descuentos en sus kits de ADN, solo tienes que pillarlo, lo cual no es complicado porque como se te ha comentado, son bastante frecuentes. Lo puedes pillar hasta por 49EUR.

Lo que te comento Defcon2 es mas que cierto (y creeme que ya llevamos un recorrido con esto) y es que ese 8% de irlandes lo mas probable es que sea por falta de muestras, y es precisamente esa la razon por la cual al hijo no le sale nada. Tambien hay que tener en cuenta que nunca se hereda un 50/50 de los padres, puede ser un 55/45, 51/49 e incluso 60/40, varia bastante. Lo unico que tu heredas de manera equitativa son los cromosomas, los haplogrupos son exactamente los mismos.

Defcon2
05-15-2021, 12:50 PM
No se que tiene de absurdo...

Todos los que hayamos llegado hasa este foro, suponqo que tenemos claro como funciona la movida. Ya se sobreentiende que no hay genes exclusivos de un pais. Pero que te salga un 8% de irlanda, viene a decir que tienes un 8% que se asemeja a lo que mas abunda alli. Y eso obviamente, vendria a significar, bien que tenemos parte de origen comun (algo que ya se presupone por la simple propia historia y las ramas celtas), o que incluso tengas realmente algun antepasado directamente irlandes, que tampoco seria un hecho disparatado

Lo que si que soy incapaz de entender es que a una madre le saquen un 8% de irlandes y al hijo nada de nada, siquiera una leve traza. Pues lo logico es que padres e hijos sacaran porcentajes de las mismas supuestas ascendencias, pero eso de que salgan cosas tan distintas... no se. Me descoloca

Respecto a lo de las ofertas, me han hecho una grandisima putada. Pues ahora con toda la mierda del virus, las oportuidades de visita al abuelo son muy remotas. Este mes tenian que ir a verlo mis padres y era una ocasion perfecta para aprovechar. Tiene una edad muy muy avanzada, y no se cuando sera la proxima ocasion que podremos verlo. Vale que si, solo son 20 y pico pavos de diferencia de con oferta o sin oferta, pero joder, tal como esta el patio... no esta la cosa para mucho derroche. Mas aun cuando como dices, las ofertas son habituales. Me jode hacer el canelo y tirar el dinero mas de la cuenta

Si alguien supiera algun sitio donde den codigos de descuento o algo lo agradeceria. Mas que nada por aprovechar como digo la ocasiaon de este mes, que despues cualquiera sabe

Como dije, utilizando ciertas referencias puedes obtener resultados radicalmente distintos si no modelas tu ascendencia correctamente, por ejemplo:

https://i.imgur.com/Ywi2SMW.jpg

Esto solo cambiando las ref españolas, algunas personas heredan ciertos componentes que pueden ser muy promedios del lugar donde nació, o por el contrario destaca en algo que hace necesario compensarlo con otras.

Si eres avispado te darás cuenta que con los vascos el italiano, el marroquí y el irlandés me suben como la espuma, eso es por que intenta compensar lo que le falta al vasco con otras referencias que me mejoran el ajuste. Esto se aplica a cualquier otra calculadora o método de modelado de ascendencia.

Suarsenaguer
05-15-2021, 03:28 PM
No entiendo muy bien a que os referis con lo de la falta de muestras o con eso de que te ponen resultados de sitios lejanos "para compensar". En fin cualquier cosa que podais explicar la agradezco, ya que hay detalles que me gustaria entender para aclarar mejor mi propia procedencia y mis propios datos, que aun me siguen matando de curiosidad

Pero aun asi, sigo sin ver tan extraños esos casos. Yo creo que si a alguien le aparece un pico de irlandes, es sencilla y llanamente porque esos sistemas tienen datos de gente de aqui y de alli que se asemejan. Que en fin, es obvio, pues ambos paises tenemos un % celtico comun y es de cajon que debe de haber genetica similar por huevos, no se por que lo interpretais como error...

A mi por ejemplo, pase mis datos por todas las distintas paginas de las que hablais aqui, y de un modo u otro, todos me sacaban trazas de sitios similares (un poco de italia y cerdeña, un poco de balcanes y un poco de paises balticos). Que digo que si me sale eso, sera porque se encuentra alguna similitud...

Pero en fin, cualquier info que conteis siempre es bienvenida. Desde que me hice el analisis estoy atrapado con este tema, no hago mas que darle vueltas y tratar de investigar

AlfonsoVIII
05-15-2021, 03:43 PM
Chuachenagüer a ver si nos dices qué haplogrupos tienes, sería interesante saberlos.

Suarsenaguer
05-15-2021, 07:27 PM
Chuachenagüer a ver si nos dices qué haplogrupos tienes, sería interesante saberlos.

Segun la pagina, este:

https://i.ibb.co/tZ27cGQ/halogrupo.png


Que por cierto tampoco es que entienda mucho del tema. Todo lo que se es que el R1b es mas habitual de europa atlantica, pero de todo su chorro de variantes y tal, ya me pierdo

Mantuano
05-15-2021, 08:00 PM
Segun la pagina, este:

https://i.ibb.co/tZ27cGQ/halogrupo.png


Que por cierto tampoco es que entienda mucho del tema. Todo lo que se es que el R1b es mas habitual de europa atlantica, pero de todo su chorro de variantes y tal, ya me pierdo

Usa este que está actualizado

https://cladefinder.yseq.net/

AlfonsoVIII
05-15-2021, 08:51 PM
Segun la pagina, este:

https://i.ibb.co/tZ27cGQ/halogrupo.png


Que por cierto tampoco es que entienda mucho del tema. Todo lo que se es que el R1b es mas habitual de europa atlantica, pero de todo su chorro de variantes y tal, ya me pierdo

No uses Morley, que lleva sin actualizarse desde 2014; usa el cladefinder que te dice Mantuano.

Suarsenaguer
05-16-2021, 01:59 AM
Aqui os dejo el resultado:

https://i.ibb.co/0DfTv8M/nuevo-halog.png

Mantuano
05-16-2021, 09:47 AM
Aqui os dejo el resultado:

https://i.ibb.co/0DfTv8M/nuevo-halog.png

Vale, ahora desglosa la opcion del R-P312, para darte mi veredicto final. Aunque si me dices que te testeaste en MyHeritage despues del 2019, las posibilidades de que seas R1b-DF27 son de un 95% como minimo.

AlfonsoVIII
05-16-2021, 11:28 AM
Vale, ahora desglosa la opcion del R-P312, para darte mi veredicto final.

¿Tendría que hacerse el test de YSeq para determinarlo?

Mantuano
05-16-2021, 12:05 PM
¿Tendría que hacerse el test de YSeq para determinarlo?

Para que sea 100% seguro si, pero si llega a tener en rojo L21 y U152, teniendo en cuenta que ya U106 esta en rojo, pues es casi seguro que va a caer en DF27. Ninguna compañia testa DF27 a primeras, no se el porque de esa estupidez.

Suarsenaguer
05-16-2021, 12:05 PM
Vale, ahora desglosa la opcion del R-P312, para darte mi veredicto final. Aunque si me dices que te testeaste en MyHeritage despues del 2019, las posibilidades de que seas R1b-DF27 son de un 95% como minimo.


Me lo hice este año, en marzo

https://i.ibb.co/W0WqFQb/halo-mas.png

Pero cuentame los por ques de las cosas, que no me entero XD

¿Por que los datos pueden variar segun la fecha? ¿Que hacian de distinto antes o ahora? ¿Por que el grupo que me da directamente esa pagina no lo crees exacto?

Bueno despues de comer me meto a ver si hay novedades jaja

Mantuano
05-16-2021, 12:19 PM
Me lo hice este año, en marzo

https://i.ibb.co/W0WqFQb/halo-mas.png

Pero cuentame los por ques de las cosas, que no me entero XD

¿Por que los datos pueden variar segun la fecha? ¿Que hacian de distinto antes o ahora? ¿Por que el grupo que me da directamente esa pagina no lo crees exacto?

Bueno despues de comer me meto a ver si hay novedades jaja

Yo te lo explicare a continuacion con muchisimo gusto, pero antes comentar que se confirma tu negativo en U152, desglosa el R-S461 y dime si el L21 esta en rojo tambien, no sera necesario que mandes captura.

Veras, el resultado que te arrojo la herramienta es 100% exacto y preciso, lo que pasa es que no se detiene ahi, el haplogrupo es como un arbol que tiene raices, en el que has caido, que es el R1b, tiene 6 grandes ramas (entre otras mas pequeñas), las cuales son DF27, L21, U106, U152, Z2103 y V88. MyHeritage testa los SNPs de cada una de ellas a excepcion del DF27, lo bueno es que sabiendo que eres negativo en todas las demas, puedes tranquilamente concluir que perteneces a esta que es la que falta por testar, ya que el DF27 es por lejos la mas comun en España.

Los asturianos, gallegos, portugueses y castellanos occidentales que son DF27, se llevan la grata sorpresa de ser positivos en Z225, que es un clado despues del DF27, muy comun en ellos, y las compañias si testan este SNP, entonces no tienen la necesidad de estar haciendo este procedimiento de sacar calculos a ver que son o no son.

No necesariamente esto se tiene que cumplir a raja tabla, pero asumo que no eres del Occidente del pais.

Y tranquilo que yo me enteraba muchisimo menos que tu en su momento, pero si ves la fecha cuando se creo este hilo, y la cantidad de paginas que tiene, veras que hemos estado dandonos de hostias, discutiendo y aprendiendo entre todos, en un proceso que tomo su tiempo. Tranquilo que de aqui sales fino.

AlfonsoVIII
05-16-2021, 12:27 PM
Para que sea 100% seguro si, pero si llega a tener en rojo L21 y U152, teniendo en cuenta que ya U106 esta en rojo, pues es casi seguro que va a caer en DF27. Ninguna compañia testa DF27 a primeras, no se el porque de esa estupidez.

Le cabe también la posibilidad de A8053 y de S1194 por lo que veo.

Suarsenaguer
05-16-2021, 01:51 PM
Yo te lo explicare a continuacion con muchisimo gusto, pero antes comentar que se confirma tu negativo en U152, desglosa el R-S461 y dime si el L21 esta en rojo tambien, no sera necesario que mandes captura.


Digamos que sale asi

L21/M529/S145- L459($) Y2598/S552/FGC3218(?)

AlfonsoVIII
05-16-2021, 07:00 PM
Digamos que sale asi

L21/M529/S145- L459($) Y2598/S552/FGC3218(?)

L21/M529/S145 te sale así en rojo?

Suarsenaguer
05-16-2021, 07:54 PM
L21/M529/S145 te sale así en rojo?

Si, he copiado la linea que me sale tal cual. Tanto la parte en rojo como la parte en azul

AlfonsoVIII
05-16-2021, 08:27 PM
Si, he copiado la linea que me sale tal cual. Tanto la parte en rojo como la parte en azul

OK, entonces lo que sabemos de cierto hasta ahora es que eres L151. De L151 descienden cuatro ramas: P312, U106, S1194 y A8053, ordenados de mayor posibilidad a menor.

Dentro de L151 sabemos que no eres U106, por lo que nos quedan los otros tres, P312, S1194 y A8053. De estos tres P312 es abrumadoramente mayoritario, por lo que tienes la mayoría de papeletas de ser P312. De P312 derivan L21, DF27, U152, DF19 y L238. En tu caso ha quedado claro que no eres L21, ni U152, ni L238; nos queda la posibilidad de que seas DF27 o DF19. Teniendo en cuenta que DF19 es un subclado asociado a los antiguos anglosajones y que aquí en España aún no se ha encontrado -que yo sepa-, yo lo descartaría; por contra, teniendo en cuenta que el 49% de los españoles son DF27, diría que tienes la mayoría de las papeletas de ser DF27.

No obstante cabe también la posibilidad de que ni siquiera seas P312 y caigas dentro de S1194 o A8053. S1194 es un subclado bastante raro, asociado con los pueblos germánicos, y hasta donde sé no hay aún españoles testeados con S1194; la última posibilidad es A8053, que es todavía más raro; ni siquiera se puede determinar con certeza aún a qué poblaciones antiguas estaría asociado, aunque pareciera ser propio de pueblos germánicos. Sería extremadamente raro que te tocara, pero la posibilidad existe; yo mismo de hecho soy A8053.

En resumen, lo más probable es que seas DF27, pero tienes otras posibilidades abiertas. Para determinarlo con exactitud te va a tocar hacerte el Big Y de YSeq.

Suarsenaguer
05-16-2021, 09:09 PM
OK, entonces lo que sabemos de cierto hasta ahora es que eres L151. De L151 descienden cuatro ramas: P312, U106, S1194 y A8053, ordenados de mayor posibilidad a menor.

Dentro de L151 sabemos que no eres U106, por lo que nos quedan los otros tres, P312, S1194 y A8053. De estos tres P312 es abrumadoramente mayoritario, por lo que tienes la mayoría de papeletas de ser P312. De P312 derivan L21, DF27, U152, DF19 y L238. En tu caso ha quedado claro que no eres L21, ni U152, ni L238; nos queda la posibilidad de que seas DF27 o DF19. Teniendo en cuenta que DF19 es un subclado asociado a los antiguos anglosajones y que aquí en España aún no se ha encontrado -que yo sepa-, yo lo descartaría; por contra, teniendo en cuenta que el 49% de los españoles son DF27, diría que tienes la mayoría de las papeletas de ser DF27.

No obstante cabe también la posibilidad de que ni siquiera seas P312 y caigas dentro de S1194 o A8053. S1194 es un subclado bastante raro, asociado con los pueblos germánicos, y hasta donde sé no hay aún españoles testeados con S1194; la última posibilidad es A8053, que es todavía más raro; ni siquiera se puede determinar con certeza aún a qué poblaciones antiguas estaría asociado, aunque pareciera ser propio de pueblos germánicos. Sería extremadamente raro que te tocara, pero la posibilidad existe; yo mismo de hecho soy A8053.

En resumen, lo más probable es que seas DF27, pero tienes otras posibilidades abiertas. Para determinarlo con exactitud te va a tocar hacerte el Big Y de YSeq.


Me pierdo en la ultima linea. Concretame lo de hacerme que y donde, y le echo un ojo

Por lo demas, te agradezco toda la info. En aquella otra pagina donde lo mire primero, si no me equivoco, me salia precisamente el L21. Me hizo gracia porque resultaba un tanto exotico. En otra pagina, no recuerdo ni cual, esa en la que te sale una lista de datos escritos en naranja butano sobre un fondo negro, que analiza comparativas entre tu y supuestos huesos de yacimientos arqueologicos del mundo, aquellos en los que me aperecian mas coincidencias, eran precisamente de huesos de yacimientos de irlanda del norte. Eso me dio a entender de que afianzaba un poco aquello del l21, pero si considerais que esta ultima pagina es mas fiable, pues ya se desvanece todo aquello

En fin esta mierda es una droga. Al final escribi a myheritage y me han dicho que hoy mismo activan otra oferta, asi que he comprado otra cajita para mi abuelo, que es el mas urgente por lo mayor que esta. Mas adelante cuando me pueda permitir algun despilfarro a ver si convenzo a mis padres tambien, a ver si entre unos y otros limo todas las curiosidades que pueda

¿Teneis idea de si se conocen diferenciaciones entre iberos y celtas y cosas asi? O todo aquello es imposible de definir

Mantuano
05-16-2021, 09:14 PM
Digamos que sale asi

L21/M529/S145- L459($) Y2598/S552/FGC3218(?)

Vamos, eres DF27, dalo por hecho. Las probabilidades son como minimo del 95%. Este clado es el per se de los Bell Beakers ibericos.


Le cabe también la posibilidad de A8053 y de S1194 por lo que veo.

Que SNP te evaluaron a ti para saber que eres A8053, a ver si descartamos esas tambien pero yo sinceramente dudo mucho que lo sea, si no se lo arrojo es porque es negativo en esos tambien.

AlfonsoVIII
05-16-2021, 09:42 PM
Que SNP te evaluaron a ti para saber que eres A8053, a ver si descartamos esas tambien pero yo sinceramente dudo mucho que lo sea, si no se lo arrojo es porque es negativo en esos tambien.

No tengo ni puta idea, simplemente metí el rawdata en el cladefinder de YSeq y bueno, ya lo viste tú mismo.

Suarsenaguer
05-18-2021, 02:47 PM
Buenas, el otro dia me recomendasteis que hiciera una prueba mas en nose que pagina, que no me quedo claro ni que era ni donde. ¿me podeis concretar?

Suarsenaguer
06-26-2021, 01:44 PM
Buenas a todos. Le hice la prueba al unico abuelo que me queda vivo, y ha sido recibida hoy en el laboratorio. A lo largo de julio tendre los resultados, ya volvere a comentaros mas y os traere los datos, por si os sirve en los estudios que alguno de vosotros este haciendo. Se trata del padre de mi madre

DontKillFred
07-09-2021, 03:26 PM
Hi everyone, would you take a look at my K47 results ?
108761108761

What do you think about them ?
Thanks, a lot.
(I'm from Portugal btw)

Suarsenaguer
07-10-2021, 02:41 PM
Me han dado hoy los resultados de mi abuelo. Estoy flipando con el analisis de myheritage, hay cosas que son una puta locura :picard1:

Estoy esperando el resultado de dna.land y de otros sitios y ya pondre un resumen de datos. Necesito ayuda con gedmatch, que pagina mas mala joder, que mal explicado todo. He subido el archivo pero pinche donde pinche despues me da error en todas partes y es imposible hacer analisis. De todos modos he probado en yourdnaportal, que supuestamente hace los mismos analisis que gedmatch (k13, k36 y los tipicos) de forma muchisimo mas facil e intuitiva, pinchando en enlaces que te hacen todo de forma automatica

Suarsenaguer
07-10-2021, 03:09 PM
Hi everyone, would you take a look at my K47 results ?
108761108761

What do you think about them ?
Thanks, a lot.
(I'm from Portugal btw)

Macho... ¿en serio eres de portugal y nos estas escribiendo a españoles en el idioma de los piratas? Esto si que es de :picard1:

Suarsenaguer
07-11-2021, 02:12 PM
Bueno, pues como os dije, ya tengo los datos de mi abuelo. Para recapitular, os hago brevemente un resumen de mis datos y los comparo con los suyos, pues hay cosas que me han dejado loco. Ante todo, corroborar que el analisis como tal es fiel y real, puesto que hice 2 cuentas separadas, con nombres falsos, sin enlazarlos de ningun tipo como familiares ni personas cercanas ni nada de nada, y el sistema me enlaza a la cuenta de mi abuelo, clasificandolo como "abuelo, tio o medio hermano". Asi que bueno, al menos queda garantizado que no se inventan las cosas.

Por curiosidad geografica, yo soy de Alicante, la rama de mi padre es de la zona, la rama de mi madre procede del oeste de Albacete. El abuelo del que adjunto datos es padre de mi madre

MIS DATOS (redondeando un poco decimales):

1- Myheritage:
- Español 78% (remarcando 2 grupos en el este del pais)
- Cerdeña 15%
- Baltico 3'5%
- Europa Oriental 3'5% (marca un basto circulo que incluye checoslovaquia, yugoslavia, hungria, polonia, rumania y ucrania)
- Luego ya fuera de porcentaje, me salen 3 pequeños grupos exta: Berna (suiza), Vosgos (FR) y West Midlands (ENG)

2- DNALAND
- Europa suroeste: 80%
- Cerdeña: 2%
- Balcanes: 7%
- Europa centro-sur (supongo que italia): 5%
- Baltico: 6%
- Norteafrica: 1%

3- EUROGENES K13
- Atlantico norte: 40%
- Mediterraneo oeste: 25%
- Mediterraneo este: 16'5%
- Baltico: 11'5%
- Mar Rojo: 2'8%
- Asia oeste: 2%
- Asia sur: 1'5%
- Egipto: 1%


MI ABUELO (padre de mi madre)

1- Myheritage:
- Español: 55% (remarcando grupo vascuence y grupo "sur de españa")
- Cerdeña: 18'5%
- Grecia: 9'5%
- Irlanda-Escocia: 5%
- Finlandia: 2%
Y aqui la traca final que es la que me deja loco:
- Norteafricano: 8'2%
- NIGERIANO: 1'4% :rolleyes:
- Grupos adicionales, sin sumar porcentaje: Una zona que abarca toda alemania, y un puntito pequeño encima de Paraguay

2- DNALAND
- Europa suroeste: 76%
- Europa noroeste: 13%
- Europa central-sur: 6'5%
- Norteafrica: 4'6%

3- EUROGENES K13
- Atlantico norte: 41'5%
- Mediterraneo oeste: 25'43%
- Mediterraneo este: 16%
- Baltico: 10'8%
- Mar Rojo: 3%
- Asia sur: 0'9%
- Oceanico: 0'7%
- Subsahariano: 0'6%
- Amerindio: 0'4%
- Egipto: 0'3%


Bueno, pues si ya en su momento me habia dejado una enorme curiosidad ese origen parcial mio baltico, balcanico y eslavo, lo de mi abuelo me ha dejado totalmente loco. Que le den solo un 55% de tipicamente español, ya me intriga, pero mas aun que tenga porcentajes tan altos de Grecia, Irlanda o Finlandia. Su parte griega podria ir relacionada con esa parte que otros me dan a mi de balcanico, no lo se. Pero lo que si me deja totalmente loco es que le den porcentajes tan elevados de moro y sobre todo DE NEGRO. Ha sido un descojone. Aclarar que no tiene en absoluto rasgos morunos o marronidos, como hay gente que si los tiene (tez morena, pelos rizados, y esas cosas)

En dnaland, le dan un porcentaje bastante alto del eje irlanda-uk-holanda-noruega, lo que vendria a confirmar que algo hay, y no es una desbarrada de myheritage. Lo que no entiendo es pq esa misma pagina si a mi abuelo le saca un 13% de esa zona, a mi no me saca nada de nada, siquiera trazas. Lo del nigeriano, es curioso pues en el k13 salen pequeñas trazas, con que es posible que algo haya. Supongo, algun muy lejano cruce con algun mudejar almoravide, de aquellos que eran moros con trazas de mestizaje negro, lo cual en fin, tecnicamente es posible. Aunque el % que da de ello myheritage es una locura infumable

Me faltaria hacerle analisis a mi padre a ver que me sale. Intuyo que las trazas baltico-eslavas vendrian por su rama. La familia de mi padre siempre le he visto una mirada y unos ojos muy eslavos. Yo en cierto modo tambien (mucha gente me sacaba parecido con luka jovic)

En fin un puto misterio todo esto. Ojala los mas rodados volvais por aqui y me podais comentar curiosidades respecto a las diferencias y tal. He visto que uno de los mas activos ha sido baneado, espero que solo sea temporal y vuelva...

Gallop
08-03-2021, 04:19 PM
Mis nuevos resultados del bronce de la península ibérica. Con detalles alguna para no alargar demasiado.

Con España, vamos, no ha nacido quien...

Publicamos porque nos mola y es entretenido, no tenemos nada que demostrar. Eso sí, en este sucio mundillo de la genética todavía hay cosas que se van a tener que aclarar.


73. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.68 - I4561
98. Bronze Age El Hundido Monasterio de Rodilla Spain
2417 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.3 - EHU002
131. Castilla y Leon Burgos Tablada de Rudron Virgazal Spain
2600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.99 - I6470
136. Bronze Age Fuente la Mora Spain
1500 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.16 - I3491
149. Portugal Middle Bronze Age
1580 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.48 - TV3831
160. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.73 - VAD003
163. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.79 - I7689
174. Mallorca Early Bronze Age
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.0 - I4329
180. Bronze Age Can Roqueta-Can Revella Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.22 - I1310
182. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.23 - VAD001
196. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.47 - I4559
217. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.95 - I4560
257. Bronze Age Humanejos Parla Iberia
1785 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - I6618
259. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.66 - VAD005
264. Bronze Age Humanejos Madrid Iberia
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.78 - I6588
Similar Samples
Sabine Italic Tribe Grotta Regina Margherita Italy (1504 BC) (4.643)
Heneti Italic Tribe Grottina dei Covoloni del Broion Italy (1502 BC) (5.062)
Larriey Plague Cemetery Mont Prorel France (1629 AD) (5.236)
Bronze Age Castillejo del Bonete Iberia (2124 BC) (5.444)
Bronze Age Koenigsbrunn Germany (1957 BC) (5.684)
283. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.32 - I4562
296. Bronze Age Tumulo Morterem Valencia Spain
1400 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.59 - I8570
1. French_Basque (10.21)
2. Spanish_Basque (12.80)
299. Post Roman El Castillon Granada Spain
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.62 - I3578
300. Bronze Age Castillejo del Bonete Iberia
2124 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.64 - I3484
350. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.78 - VAD004
1. French_Basque (14.39)
2. Spanish_Basque (16.70)
375. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.33 - I7691
377. Bronze Age El Hundido Monasterio de Rodilla Spain
2171 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.34 - EHU001
1. Welsh (10.91)
2. Southwest_English (12.14)
378. Iberian El Argar Bronze Age
1730 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.43 - I8144
386. Bronze Age Tumulo Morterem Valencia Spain
1400 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.55 - I8571
1. Spanish_Basque (9.678)
2. French_Basque (9.839)
389. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.66 - VAD002
1. French_Basque (6.887)
2. Spanish_Basque (8.606)
402. Bronze Age Galls Carboners Catalonia Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.89 - I4558
421. Portugal Middle Bronze Age
1580 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.22 - TV32032
430. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.39 - I3488
459. Bronze Age Ondarre Basque Iberia
1608 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.78 - I1982
1. French_Basque (12.53)
2. Spanish_Basque (12.71)
482. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.15 - I7692
509. Bronze Age Argar Culture Priego de Cordoba Andalusia
1775 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.68 - pir001
531. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1653 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.12 - I3487
582. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.79 - I3486
601. Bronze Age Cerdanyola Barcelona
2550 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.98 - I0261

Y la última de regalo
700. Roman Era Canterbury England
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.56 - 1257_Co
1. West_Scottish (6.782)
2. Southeast_English (7.229)

Suarsenaguer
08-04-2021, 12:53 AM
Todos los asiduos de este hilo han desaparecido. Si en algun momento me leeis, a ver si volveis, estaba todo muy interesante, y se ha parado en seco

Gallop
08-04-2021, 01:11 AM
Todos los asiduos de este hilo han desaparecido. Si en algun momento me leeis, a ver si volveis, estaba todo muy interesante, y se ha parado en seco

Dicen que no quieren volver.

Suarsenaguer
08-05-2021, 01:52 PM
Dicen que no quieren volver.

Pues una lastima. ¿Hay gente en algun otro foro similar?

Gallop
08-11-2021, 01:18 PM
Eurasia - Modern Origins

Third Oracle Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 8 fragments, with each fragment representing 12.5% of your genome. This setting is very useful in modern ethnicity estimates, since the size of the generated fragments match perfectly the percentage of DNA inherited from a great-grandfather.

Aquitaine : 62.5%
Asturias : 12.5%
Cantabria : 12.5%
North_Ossetia : 12.5%


I've been seeing that I get this result in quite a few calculators.

This result that I get from North Ossetia understanding the oracle would be through a great-grandfather or great-grandmother who would have a composition from what I see from Northern Spain Aquitaine, Asturias, Cantabria.

Gallop
08-12-2021, 02:17 PM
En este resultado de mi padre se podría interpretar un modelo de romano con las aportaciones latinas, gallo roman, un poco de etrusco e incluso una aportación de NA.


Homogenesis and Civilisations, 3000 BC-1000 AD

Second Oracle Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 20 fragments, with each fragment representing 5% of your genome. By not focusing on the most distant ancestry, it offers an excellent and balanced estimate of ethnicity with a lower margin of error.

Celtic_Orkney : 30%
Hallstatt_Celt : 20%
Terramare : 15%
Tuareg : 15%
Celtic_Switzerland : 5%
Iberian_El_Agrar : 5%
Italic-Tribes : 5%
Roman : 5%

Defcon2
08-13-2021, 05:51 PM
Pues una lastima. ¿Hay gente en algun otro foro similar?

Sí, se llama Anthrogenica, esto cada vez más está perdiendo actividad, normal si los miembros son baneados.

HelloGuys
12-31-2021, 11:57 PM
Este thread todavía está en uso? xd

gixajo
01-04-2022, 09:08 PM
Bump

:rolleyes2:

HelloGuys
01-04-2022, 10:30 PM
Okay; parece que lo medio revivieron jajaja así que postearé algunos resultados.

El modelo que voy a usar es de Rocinante xddd

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.7393% / 0.02739282
35.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
5.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.4 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Yoruba


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.1714% / 0.02171449
34.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 MAR_Taforalt
5.6 WHG
4.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.8 Yoruba
0.8 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.5650% / 0.02564961
41.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.8 WHG
2.0 Yoruba
1.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Siberian_Mesolithic

Jased
01-04-2022, 10:35 PM
Okay; parece que lo medio revivieron jajaja así que postearé algunos resultados.

El modelo que voy a usar es de Rocinante xddd

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.7393% / 0.02739282
35.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
5.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.4 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Yoruba


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.1714% / 0.02171449
34.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 MAR_Taforalt
5.6 WHG
4.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.8 Yoruba
0.8 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.5650% / 0.02564961
41.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.8 WHG
2.0 Yoruba
1.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Siberian_Mesolithic



Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

gixajo
01-04-2022, 10:40 PM
Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

When will you be tested?

HelloGuys
01-04-2022, 10:42 PM
Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

Jased
01-04-2022, 10:46 PM
When will you be tested?

Ya lo hize, pero me gustaria test my mom tambien antes de continuar con otro test (23andme etc)


Remove.

Jased
01-04-2022, 10:48 PM
Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

does your mother looks castiza o igual que tu? porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu???

HelloGuys
01-04-2022, 10:51 PM
Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

Mi hermana también; aunque no le he comprado el Illustrative DNA ni las coordenadas G25 xddd

Próximamente si Dios quiere, voy a comprarles las pruebas a mis 3 abuelos para saber más de nuestros orígenes, especular e hipotetizar mejor de dónde o cómo han salido todos estos componentes que tenemos.

Jased
01-04-2022, 10:52 PM
Mi hermana también; aunque no le he comprado el Illustrative DNA ni las coordenadas G25 xddd

Próximamente si Dios quiere, voy a comprarles las pruebas a mis 3 abuelos para saber más de nuestros orígenes, especular e hipotetizar mejor de dónde o cómo han salido todos estos componentes que tenemos.

que bueno me agrada, pero cuantame como luce tu mama luce castiza o porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu? es harniza?

Mixdguy17
01-04-2022, 10:52 PM
Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

HelloGuys
01-04-2022, 10:57 PM
does your mother looks castiza o igual que tu? porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu???

Según los expertos de TA mi mamá está en el rango 70-75%

Jased
01-04-2022, 11:00 PM
Según los expertos de TA mi mamá está en el rango 70-75%

joder..... no me sorprende que mi madre sea menos Europea de lo que pense tambien o igual que yo o que mi abuela que pas descanze no era realmente 80% euro sino 75% ya que las aparencias tambien engañan .


Pero bueno el tiempo despues dira.

HelloGuys
01-04-2022, 11:04 PM
Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

En LivingDNA yo no saco nada de MENA, parece que el judío sefardí lo contaron como Ibérico/Europeo, porque otra razón no le encuentro ya que a mí ese test ha sido de los mejores resultados que he obtenido.

Pues en 23andme yo hipotizo que tendría como 7%-7.5% MENA o tal vez un poquito más, pero ten en cuenta que todo ese componente sería puramente judío, mi madre como un 8%-8.5% por ahí tal vez; es demasiado, casi como si tuviéramos un tatarabuelo Sefardí :eek:....en tu caso la gran mayoría es Guanche y tal vez un poquito de judío :thumb001:

Jased
01-04-2022, 11:09 PM
Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

algo que no entiendo porque tu hermano tiene mas amerindio y ssa que tu? son hermanos de ambos papas? i know within full siblings the difference at max are 5%

gixajo
01-04-2022, 11:14 PM
Ya lo hize, pero me gustaria test my mom tambien antes de continuar con otro test (23andme etc)


G]

Es cierto, no me acordaba.

Jased
01-04-2022, 11:17 PM
Es cierto, no me acordaba.

Mira perdono tus comentarios previos hacia ami madre, pero lucia castiza segun a tu criterio?

Gallop
01-04-2022, 11:58 PM
Nos habían metido a mi padre y a mí un 5% aprox. de nativo americano en ADNtro, también había visto algo en MH. Digo, vamos a ver es relativamente una época reciente y algo tendría que saber por tradición oral e.t.c. así que lo he querido comprobar con YourdnaPortal.

Third Test Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 10 fragments, with each fragment representing 10% of your genome. It shows your ancestry admixture on an even broader level, omitting noise completely.

Population
Value

Eurasian 100%
Proxy for European and West Asian ancestry.


Padre:

Eurasian : 100%
Proxy for European and West Asian ancestry.


Si bien mi padre en:

Main Test Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 200 fragments, with each fragment representing 0.5% of your genome. This enables us to capture and identify your most distant origins.


Population
Value

Eurasian 94%
Sub-Saharan African 4.5%
Siberian 1%
Cuba ancient 0.5%

Cuba ancient alguien lo ha escuchado alguna vez, qué puede ser una reverberación de Siberian.

gixajo
01-05-2022, 12:10 AM
Mira perdono tus comentarios previos hacia ami madre, pero lucia castiza segun a tu criterio?

No sé que aspecto tiene alguien castizo, por lo que recuerdo, tenía cierto toque amerindio, pero tampoco una cosa extrema.

Tampoco sé muy bien que me tienes que perdonar sobre tu madre, porque no he dicho nada con intención de ofenderla.

Decir que resulta atractiva, o al menos que la recuerde así de una foto suya que ví hace tiempo, no creo que sea ofenderla. Pero bueno, si la forma en que lo dije lo percibiste como una falta de respeto y te molestó, por supuesto que te pido disculpas.

A tí y a ella.

Mixdguy17
01-05-2022, 08:34 AM
algo que no entiendo porque tu hermano tiene mas amerindio y ssa que tu? son hermanos de ambos papas? i know within full siblings the difference at max are 5%

Tenemos la misma mama, pero diferentes papas.

Mi hermano tiene menos SSA que yo.

Defcon2
01-09-2022, 09:41 AM
No sé que aspecto tiene alguien castizo, por lo que recuerdo, tenía cierto toque amerindio, pero tampoco una cosa extrema.

Tampoco sé muy bien que me tienes que perdonar sobre tu madre, porque no he dicho nada con intención de ofenderla.

Decir que resulta atractiva, o al menos que la recuerde así de una foto suya que ví hace tiempo, no creo que sea ofenderla. Pero bueno, si la forma en que lo dije lo percibiste como una falta de respeto y te molestó, por supuesto que te pido disculpas.

A tí y a ella.

Eres grosero con la madre de otros y luego soy yo la mala persona :mad:

HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 05:23 AM
Oigan chicos; alguien tiene algún modelo que pueda ubicar la ancestría gitana? Para que la postee porfa jaja

gixajo
01-10-2022, 08:00 AM
Oigan chicos; alguien tiene algún modelo que pueda ubicar la ancestría gitana? Para que la postee porfa jaja

Con este modelo deberían salir a la luz todos los posibles aportes que no sean "ibéricos".

Las referencias Ibéricas son individuos solo con WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, o muy poco más añadido.

El supuesto aporte gitano vendría marcado por el porcentaje del componente "India".

He quitado la referencia Irán, para que no le haga competencia a India.:)




Iberian:RAG111,0.127482,0.141159,0.043369,0.002907 ,0.046778,0.000279,-0.00564,-0.000462,0.015544,0.046835,-0.000974,0.013488,-0.013379,-0.013625,0.016829,-0.002121,0.001825,-0.00266,0.002011,-0.007504,0.002246,0.004575,-0.001232,-0.005784,-0.005269
Iberian:Soria2,0.121791,0.145221,0.050157,0.00969, 0.048009,0.001394,-0.00141,-0.001615,0.020043,0.043372,-0.008931,0.008243,-0.017839,-0.021332,0.011129,0.018032,0.018906,-0.002914,-0.006034,0.003252,-0.000125,-0.002349,-0.001356,0.002048,-0.003952
Iberian:SAB137,0.129758,0.144205,0.046763,0.005814 ,0.044316,-0.002789,-0.00658,0.007384,0.019021,0.038087,-0.012179,0.011989,-0.021853,-0.011285,0.005565,-0.004508,0.005998,-0.007095,-0.005782,-0.003126,0.005116,-0.005317,-0.001725,-0.008314,-0.000239
Iberian:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106,0.005491 ,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Iberian:CAR016,0.126344,0.153345,0.046386,0.004522 ,0.0437,-0.003068,0.00423,0.002077,0.028633,0.040821,-0.004547,0.013188,-0.012042,-0.005367,0.003393,-0.002917,-0.005867,0.000887,-0.00264,-0.005002,0.007736,0.00371,-0.003821,-0.018798,0.008742
Iberian:CAL053,0.12862,0.159438,0.038089,-0.001615,0.049855,-0.001394,0.00094,-0.002538,0.020657,0.035901,-0.005684,0.010341,-0.025272,-0.007019,0.009636,-0.008486,-0.018906,0.004941,0.008422,-0.001626,0.002121,0.002473,-0.008381,-0.002048,-0.003712
Iberian:SER022,0.126344,0.142174,0.041106,0.011628 ,0.042777,0.001673,-0.011986,0.002077,0.018816,0.035354,-0.004709,-3e-04,-0.020664,-0.004954,0.012215,-0.006099,-0.005085,0.003167,0.006159,-0.003627,0.007112,0.00507,-0.002711,-0.010965,0.005987
Iberian:MST073,0.127482,0.146236,0.042615,0.007752 ,0.040931,-0.003904,-0.002115,0.007384,0.009817,0.023873,-0.002761,0.005095,-0.017839,-0.002477,0.006922,0.000796,-0.014212,-0.002534,0.000503,-0.004127,0.001622,0.006925,-0.007395,-0.008194,0.002634
Iberian:GUS014,0.126344,0.138112,0.044877,0.003553 ,0.046162,0.004183,0.003525,-0.006231,0.022089,0.029704,0.001137,0.006594,-0.012785,-0.006606,0.006922,-0.012861,-0.008736,-0.007981,0.005908,-0.001501,0.009858,0.009892,0.000616,-0.001807,-0.00012
Iberian:GUS036,0.12862,0.14319,0.0445,0.000323,0.0 43085,-0.001952,-0.0047,-0.002538,0.025156,0.032256,-0.002598,0.012739,-0.017839,-0.015689,0.001629,-0.001193,-0.01017,0.006081,0.007039,-0.001,0.00861,0.001113,-0.008134,0.001807,-0.007185
Iberian:MIQ133,0.117238,0.139128,0.042615,0.016796 ,0.031698,0.000558,0.000705,0.007615,0.015339,0.02 6242,0.005196,0.016186,-0.016501,-0.015276,0.006922,0.00053,-0.000652,0.015076,0.003897,-0.001501,0.005116,0.002844,-0.004437,0.007471,-0.007784
Iberian:VID016,0.120652,0.148267,0.053928,0.008075 ,0.048317,0.00502,0.00094,0.008307,0.019634,0.0359 01,-0.003573,0.01169,-0.013825,-0.00578,0.004614,-0.006364,-0.010822,0.001647,0.003268,0.002626,0.006613,-0.005812,0.000246,-0.004097,0.00467
Iberian:DAN072,0.130897,0.155376,0.037712,0.004522 ,0.048317,-0.00251,-0.006815,-0.001615,0.014112,0.0277,-0.000162,0.010341,-0.013528,-0.014175,0.010179,0.008751,-0.003781,-0.00038,0.003394,-0.010005,0.001872,0.000618,0.006286,-0.003133,-0.002155
Iberian:SOL083,0.122929,0.152329,0.051666,-0.00323,0.048932,0.004183,0.00188,0.001154,0.02086 1,0.026606,-0.003248,0.007343,-0.016204,-0.010184,0.008822,-0.001989,-0.008084,-0.006461,0.008799,0,-0.000125,0.004204,-0.001479,-0.004458,-0.00455
Iberian:COD068,0.125205,0.142174,0.044123,0.005814 ,0.042162,0.004741,0.007755,0.003692,0.02127,0.027 7,-0.003897,0.007643,-0.01442,-0.006468,0.0038,-0.005304,-0.015907,0.00114,0.009553,-0.009379,0,0.005441,-0.001602,-0.00012,0.001796
Iberian:CAR048,0.126344,0.146236,0.05242,0.01292,0 .053856,0.00251,0.005875,0.004615,0.024543,0.02350 8,-0.007795,0.006744,-0.016353,-0.021607,0.004886,0.010077,0.01356,0.008615,-0.00176,0.004127,0.007612,0.003833,-0.001725,-0.00012,-0.003233
Iberian:CAL107,0.122929,0.153345,0.042238,0.001292 ,0.048009,-0.003626,-0.000705,0.001154,0.013703,0.035354,-0.006496,0.007493,-0.01888,-0.021744,0.016829,0.015911,0.003651,0.004434,-0.002011,-0.008504,-0.001747,0.003586,-0.001972,-0.000241,0.001437
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Iberian:HG01512,0.122929,0.148267,0.04978,0.009367 ,0.045855,-0.004741,-0.003055,0.002308,0.023316,0.029522,-0.00747,0.009142,-0.016055,-0.019955,0.013029,0.001326,0.000652,0.004941,-0.004399,-0.007504,0.003619,-0.000742,-0.008504,-0.00735,0.001676
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HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 08:51 AM
Con este modelo deberían salir a la luz todos los posibles aportes que no sean "ibéricos".

Las referencias Ibéricas son individuos solo con WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, o muy poco más añadido.

El supuesto aporte gitano vendría marcado por el porcentaje del componente "India".

He quitado la referencia Irán, para que no le haga competencia a India.:)




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Iberian:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075, 0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Iberian:BAS25,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.00646,0. 056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
Iberian:BAS27,0.126344,0.148267,0.059962,0.006137, 0.059088,-0.000837,-0.0047,0.003231,0.032315,0.049933,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.02557,-0.028626,0.015608,0.008618,0.001434,0.000633,0.003 142,0.002626,0.012478,0.005935,0.000246,-0.004217,0.000599
Iberian:BAS28,0.133173,0.151314,0.058831,0.01615,0 .056318,0.001952,0.000235,-0.003692,0.030679,0.039363,-0.001786,0.016036,-0.026313,-0.016102,0.021715,-0.002784,-0.012386,-0.005954,-0.001006,0.002751,0.005241,0.00779,-0.006409,-0.013255,0.006586
Iberian:BAS30,0.129758,0.141159,0.061471,0.005814, 0.06432,0.006136,-0.011516,0.003923,0.035178,0.042643,0.005196,0.013 488,-0.01888,-0.023946,0.021851,-0.002387,-0.01682,0.008361,-0.000628,-0.002376,0.004243,0,-0.006286,-0.015183,0.003712
Iberian:BAS31,0.133173,0.149283,0.058077,0.011305, 0.055395,-0.008088,-0.002585,0.002077,0.033542,0.046835,-0.009094,0.006894,-0.028543,-0.014863,0.022937,0.009281,0.000652,0.000127,-0.002011,-0.00025,0.005989,0.006925,-0.003697,-0.005663,0.000479
Iberian:BAS32,0.138864,0.156392,0.050534,0.010982, 0.04924,-0.003068,-0.001175,0.002308,0.034769,0.045195,0.002111,0.014 237,-0.018731,-0.018029,0.014929,0.014717,0.003651,-0.000127,-0.008045,0.000625,-0.001123,0.000742,-0.011709,-0.005422,-0.001557
Iberian:BAS33,0.126344,0.15436,0.058077,-0.000646,0.062781,-0.000837,-0.00094,0,0.02577,0.051755,-0.008931,0.012589,-0.016799,-0.007707,0.020494,0.001724,-0.007302,0.004181,-0.002388,-0.010505,0.015223,0.00779,-0.007395,-0.011447,0.002754
Iberian:BAS35,0.133173,0.152329,0.061094,0.016796, 0.053241,0.000279,-0.010575,0.005307,0.030065,0.040821,-0.005846,0.014687,-0.026164,-0.013625,0.020629,-0.002917,-0.009518,0.001774,-0.000251,-0.003877,0.017095,0.002349,-0.006532,-0.015062,-0.002155
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German,0.1285077,0.134342,0.0595373,0.0424277,0.04 02363,0.0161353,0.005305,0.0069334,0.003551,0.0011 038,-0.005429,0.0034803,-0.0070394,-0.005692,0.0129784,0.0043182,-0.0057436,0.001465,0.0038184,0.0022665,0.0039155,0 .0024361,0.0001698,0.0118297,-0.0001074
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Arab,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
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Levantine,0.0865055,0.1477087,-0.0557572,-0.0887281,-0.0126487,-0.0290883,-0.003807,-0.0066227,0.0140405,0.0092668,0.0062843,-0.0078456,0.0157062,0.0033169,-0.0052116,0.008287,-0.0006975,0.0014885,0.0009931,-0.0023888,-0.0011044,0.0035055,0.0020398,0.0012109,0.0039994
SSA,-0.6069934,0.0655298,0.0190028,0.0110807,0.0009403, 0.0073132,-0.0368968,0.0386652,-0.0312694,0.0250018,0.0052462,-0.0024354,0.017864,-0.0009902,0.0137757,-0.0137304,0.0103041,-0.0007249,-0.0020287,-0.0027166,-0.0017192,-0.0037302,0.0024958,-0.0005524,0.0014369
India,0.05425723,-0.05224190,-0.14531813,0.10516810,-0.07525927,0.06000990,0.00056697,0.01146813,0.0299 5450,0.01783713,-0.00570163,-0.00016823,-0.00002613,0.00110113,0.00060693,-0.00117137,-0.00384817,0.00066970,0.00074737,-0.00379923,0.00015303,-0.00049060,0.00129760,0.00150510,-0.00206300

Interesantísimo bro! Muchas gracias! Esto es lo que saco yo y mi familia con la distancia más baja:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.5717% / 0.02571743
42.4 Iberian
37.4 Amerindian
12.0 Levantine
3.8 SSA
3.2 NorthernAfrica
1.2 India

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 1.8730% / 0.01872975
43.4 Amerindian
43.2 Iberian
6.4 Balkan
3.2 SSA
2.4 Arab
1.4 India

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 1.9600% / 0.01959978
41.8 Iberian
37.0 Amerindian
10.4 Levantine
6.4 NorthernAfrica
4.2 SSA
0.2 India

Parece que sí tengo algo jaja soy algo como 1/83 y mi padre 1/71 xD eso significa gitano, pero no Dravídico?

El de mi madre debe ser ruido seguro.

Por cierto bro, una duda, porqué ese modelo nos sube unos puntos más lo negro y el amerindio? Xddd

gixajo
01-10-2022, 09:10 AM
Interesantísimo bro! Muchas gracias! Esto es lo que saco yo y mi familia con la distancia más baja:



Por cierto bro, una duda, porqué ese modelo nos sube unos puntos más lo negro y el amerindio? Xddd

Con poco más e un 1% no creo que haya que tomárselo muy en serio.

Sube cualquier % de todo lo que sea no-Ibérico porque son samples individuales con nada o muy poco aporte extra-europeo. Funcionan como las referencias vascas puras, sin ser todas ellas vascas.

Algún componente como el Levantine, lo podemos leer como East-Mediterranean, no necesariamente tiene que ser no-europeo.

HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 09:43 AM
Con poco más e un 1% no creo que haya que tomárselo muy en serio.

Sube cualquier % de todo lo que sea no-Ibérico porque son samples individuales con nada o muy poco aporte extra-europeo. Funcionan como las referencias vascas puras, sin ser todas ellas vascas.

Algún componente como el Levantine, lo podemos leer como East-Mediterranean, no necesariamente tiene que ser no-europeo.

Ahh va va; entonces lo que esté debajo de 1.5% no necesariamente debe de ser real? O estoy equivocado? Jaja

Ya veo bro; entonces el resto de los componentes que usamos tienen mezcla

Ohh yo pensé que el Levantino era como parte de mi lado judío xDDD

Por cierto; mencionaste que habías quitado el componente de Irán, crees que puedas pasarme completamente todo el modelo para ver cómo nos sale? Jaja por curiosidad xD

gixajo
01-10-2022, 09:48 AM
Ahh va va; entonces lo que esté debajo de 1.5% no necesariamente debe de ser real? O estoy equivocado? Jaja

Ya veo bro; entonces el resto de los componentes que usamos tienen mezcla

Ohh yo pensé que el Levantino era como parte de mi lado judío xDDD

Por cierto; mencionaste que habías quitado el componente de Irán, creo que puedas pasarme completamente todo el modelo para ver qué nos sale? Jaja por curiosidad xD

A veces ni un 20% es real.

Se me olvidó decirte que cuando posteé este modelo recomendaba 0.25X ó 0.5X


Iran,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

A mis padres y a mí nos salía esto:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.0750% / 0.01074962
84.4 Iberian
8.6 Slav
5.4 NorthernAfrica
1.2 Arab
0.4 India

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2306% / 0.01230632 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Iberian
4.0 NorthernAfrica
0.8 Slav
___________________________________________

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2444% / 0.01244371
77.4 Iberian
13.4 Balkan
8.4 NorthernAfrica
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3454% / 0.01345395 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Iberian
9.0 NorthernAfrica
7.8 Balkan

______________________________________________

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5392% / 0.01539217
84.8 Iberian
11.2 BritishIsles
4.0 NorthernAfrica


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5997% / 0.01599740 | ADC: 0.25x
95.4 Iberian
2.6 BritishIsles
2.0 NorthernAfrica

HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 10:41 AM
A veces ni un 20% es real.

Se me olvidó decirte que cuando posteé este modelo recomendaba 0.25X ó 0.5X


Iran,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

A mis padres y a mí nos salía esto:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.0750% / 0.01074962
84.4 Iberian
8.6 Slav
5.4 NorthernAfrica
1.2 Arab
0.4 India

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2306% / 0.01230632 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Iberian
4.0 NorthernAfrica
0.8 Slav
___________________________________________

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2444% / 0.01244371
77.4 Iberian
13.4 Balkan
8.4 NorthernAfrica
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3454% / 0.01345395 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Iberian
9.0 NorthernAfrica
7.8 Balkan

______________________________________________

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5392% / 0.01539217
84.8 Iberian
11.2 BritishIsles
4.0 NorthernAfrica


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5997% / 0.01599740 | ADC: 0.25x
95.4 Iberian
2.6 BritishIsles
2.0 NorthernAfrica

20%??? Wow entonces ya no sé que es real y que no xD

Éste es con el aporte de Irán a la distancia más baja:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.8003% / 0.02800301 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.4 Amerindian
37.4 Iberian
15.0 NorthernAfrica
10.2 Iran

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.3267% / 0.02326677 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.8 Amerindian
36.4 Iberian
18.8 NorthernAfrica
8.0 Iran

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.2071% / 0.02207088 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Iberian
43.6 Amerindian
8.8 NorthernAfrica
2.4 Iran
1.0 India

Mi padre sigue sacando India xdd

HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 10:48 AM
Y sin el Irán a la distancia más baja:


Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.9312% / 0.02931238 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 Iberian
37.2 Amerindian
17.0 NorthernAfrica
3.2 India

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.4731% / 0.02473057 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.0 Iberian
36.8 Amerindian
20.2 NorthernAfrica
2.0 India

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.2240% / 0.02223957 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Iberian
43.6 Amerindian
9.4 NorthernAfrica
1.6 India

Siento que quitar el Irán no está tan correcto ya que de repente mi madre ahora saca Indio y a un 2% (Cosa que nunca pasaba) y yo saco un montón de ese aporte, mucho más que mi propio padre -El doble de hecho- xDDD ahh y hablando de él, pues sigue sacando ese indio de manera "estable"y constante

gixajo
01-10-2022, 11:04 AM
Y sin el Irán a la distancia más baja:



Siento que quitar el Irán no está tan correcto ya que de repente mi madre ahora saca Indio y a un 2% (Cosa que nunca pasaba) y yo saco un montón de ese aporte xDDD y mi padre sigue sacando ese aporte de manera "estable"

A partir de 0.25X puedes usar la opción "recalculate", puede ordenar los porcentajes de forma diferente, variando o no las distancias.

No esperes que estas herramientas te modelen siempre con precisión, ni que te den resultados iguales a los que esperas, son lo que son y valen para lo que valen.

Como has visto hay componentes que por ser relativamente cercanos o estar relacionados se molestan entre sí y varían mucho los resultados si están juntos o si quitas alguno de ellos. Y si uno tiene aportes diferentes, y encima no muy recientes, la cosa se complica.

Si meto una referencia griega o italiana, el Levantine te bajará, si en vez de esas referencias uso otras más habituales, te subirá el Ibérico.

Sin más, lo de siempre, hay que probar muchos modelos y quedarse con la tendencia general del conjunto, y tratasr de ver nuestros resultados como intervalos de porcentajes, más que como porcentajes exactos.

HelloGuys
01-10-2022, 11:19 AM
A partir de 0.25X puedes usar la opción "recalculate", puede ordenar los porcentajes de forma diferente, variando o no las distancias.

No esperes que estas herramientas te modelen siempre con precisión, ni que te den resultados iguales a los que esperas, son lo que son y valen para lo que valen.

Como has visto hay componentes que por ser relativamente cercanos o estar relacionados se molestan entre sí y varían mucho los resultados si están juntos o si quitas alguno de ellos. Y si uno tiene aportes diferentes, y encima no muy recientes, la cosa se complica.

Si meto una referencia griega o italiana, el Levantine te bajará, si en vez de esas referencias uso otras más habituales, te subirá el Ibérico.

Sin más, lo de siempre, hay que probar muchos modelos y quedarse con la tendencia general del conjunto, y tratar de ver nuestros resultados como intervalos de porcentajes, más que como porcentajes exactos.

Oh no bro, no me malentiendas; tu modelo estuvo muy bueno la verdad; sinceramente me gustó y es muy parecido a lo que me dan los otros modelos diferentes que he probado ;)

Lo que sí que he estado viendo es que hay asolapamientos que son tan fuertes o "mezclados" (Por decirlo de alguna forma) que cuando se quita alguno o se pone otro, pues cambia la cosa incluso hasta algo "bastante" diferente...pero pues es normal, así pasa...es interesante y ya estoy viendo una constante gracias a que he calado varios modelos jaja

Pero pues ya te digo; he estado buscando en threads viejos y me he encontrado algunos tuyos y de Rocinante :)

Pd: Lo de la opción recalculate no me la sabía, deja le calo xdd

Defcon2
01-10-2022, 11:35 AM
Con este modelo deberían salir a la luz todos los posibles aportes que no sean "ibéricos".

Las referencias Ibéricas son individuos solo con WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, o muy poco más añadido.

El supuesto aporte gitano vendría marcado por el porcentaje del componente "India".

He quitado la referencia Irán, para que no le haga competencia a India.:)




Iberian:RAG111,0.127482,0.141159,0.043369,0.002907 ,0.046778,0.000279,-0.00564,-0.000462,0.015544,0.046835,-0.000974,0.013488,-0.013379,-0.013625,0.016829,-0.002121,0.001825,-0.00266,0.002011,-0.007504,0.002246,0.004575,-0.001232,-0.005784,-0.005269
Iberian:Soria2,0.121791,0.145221,0.050157,0.00969, 0.048009,0.001394,-0.00141,-0.001615,0.020043,0.043372,-0.008931,0.008243,-0.017839,-0.021332,0.011129,0.018032,0.018906,-0.002914,-0.006034,0.003252,-0.000125,-0.002349,-0.001356,0.002048,-0.003952
Iberian:SAB137,0.129758,0.144205,0.046763,0.005814 ,0.044316,-0.002789,-0.00658,0.007384,0.019021,0.038087,-0.012179,0.011989,-0.021853,-0.011285,0.005565,-0.004508,0.005998,-0.007095,-0.005782,-0.003126,0.005116,-0.005317,-0.001725,-0.008314,-0.000239
Iberian:GRA029,0.126344,0.146236,0.041106,0.005491 ,0.044316,0,-0.00047,0.005077,0.01718,0.033167,-0.004709,0.014687,-0.017839,-0.009634,0.005157,-0.000928,-0.003781,-0.001774,-0.001634,-0.003877,0.004118,0.008037,-0.002342,-0.000241,0.00012
Iberian:CAR016,0.126344,0.153345,0.046386,0.004522 ,0.0437,-0.003068,0.00423,0.002077,0.028633,0.040821,-0.004547,0.013188,-0.012042,-0.005367,0.003393,-0.002917,-0.005867,0.000887,-0.00264,-0.005002,0.007736,0.00371,-0.003821,-0.018798,0.008742
Iberian:CAL053,0.12862,0.159438,0.038089,-0.001615,0.049855,-0.001394,0.00094,-0.002538,0.020657,0.035901,-0.005684,0.010341,-0.025272,-0.007019,0.009636,-0.008486,-0.018906,0.004941,0.008422,-0.001626,0.002121,0.002473,-0.008381,-0.002048,-0.003712
Iberian:SER022,0.126344,0.142174,0.041106,0.011628 ,0.042777,0.001673,-0.011986,0.002077,0.018816,0.035354,-0.004709,-3e-04,-0.020664,-0.004954,0.012215,-0.006099,-0.005085,0.003167,0.006159,-0.003627,0.007112,0.00507,-0.002711,-0.010965,0.005987
Iberian:MST073,0.127482,0.146236,0.042615,0.007752 ,0.040931,-0.003904,-0.002115,0.007384,0.009817,0.023873,-0.002761,0.005095,-0.017839,-0.002477,0.006922,0.000796,-0.014212,-0.002534,0.000503,-0.004127,0.001622,0.006925,-0.007395,-0.008194,0.002634
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Iberian:GUS036,0.12862,0.14319,0.0445,0.000323,0.0 43085,-0.001952,-0.0047,-0.002538,0.025156,0.032256,-0.002598,0.012739,-0.017839,-0.015689,0.001629,-0.001193,-0.01017,0.006081,0.007039,-0.001,0.00861,0.001113,-0.008134,0.001807,-0.007185
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Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 1.9715% / 0.01971519 | ADC: 0.25x RC
87.0 Iberian
8.8 NorthernAfrica
3.0 India
1.2 SSA

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/image.php?u=26483&dateline=1641808753

gixajo
01-10-2022, 01:32 PM
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Este modelo se posteó hace mucho tiempo en AG, señor Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.:p

Defcon2
01-10-2022, 01:37 PM
Este modelo se posteó hace mucho tiempo en AG, señor Apu Nahasapeemapetilon.:p

AG que es eso se come? una especie de plato al curry?

gixajo
01-10-2022, 01:41 PM
AG que es eso se come? una especie de plato al curry?

Arroz con Gato.

Defcon2
01-10-2022, 01:44 PM
Arroz con Gato.

Qué AGco...

HelloGuys
01-19-2022, 01:26 AM
Hoja de cálculo con el tamaño de nuestras pollas, quiero decir color de ojos y piel. Tengo pensado compartirlo con el resto del foro, sería buena idea con tanto psicópata obsesivo y con evidentes problemas mentales?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11yqIG1PX2Ra_J5uuHMGkKR4Di4fnbud45uiZUZuwrpE/edit?usp=sharing

Yo tengo información de eso gracias a TellmeGen, sirve? O no? Jaja

O simplemente ya dejaste este proyecto? XD

HelloGuys
01-19-2022, 03:32 AM
Como é que sabes isso? O teu haplogrupo é E-M81? Se não for, não está de maneira nenhuma relacionado com mouros ou negros.

Se que el post es de hace un tiempo; pero en serio no está relacionado con los moros? Entonces no es un haplogrupo MENA? Porque se supone que llegó del Norte de África a la Península ibérica y en el Noroeste africano es donde hay muchísima más frecuencia de ese haplogrupo que en ningún otro lugar...

Pd: El E-M81 es mi Y-DNA xd

Defcon2
01-19-2022, 08:24 PM
Yo tengo información de eso gracias a TellmeGen, sirve? O no? Jaja

O simplemente ya dejaste este proyecto? XD

Me da paja volver a retomar eso como decís vosotros por allá ;)

HelloGuys
01-22-2022, 03:04 AM
Me da paja volver a retomar eso como decís vosotros por allá ;)

Aquí en México no usamos paja jajaja al menos no para ese sentido xd pero entendí a lo que te referías

Pues un lástima loco jaja he llegado tardísimo con esto de los tests y G25; ya casi nadie participa, como que se acabó la emoción de esto y me siento un poco solo :(

HelloGuys
01-22-2022, 03:09 AM
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Satsurblia_Cluster:GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
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Dravidian:IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2,0.043708,-0.0327002,-0.170006,0.0950268,-0.1047582,0.0568936,0.0063452,0.0041998,0.0056858, 0.0067428,-0.0051964,0.0079128,-0.0018436,-0.0031928,0.0098534,0.0097852,-0.0023732,0.0025084,0.0016342,-0.0142568,0.0029694,-0.0125136,-0.0011832,-0.0119052,0.001317
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Early_Levantine_Farmer:Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0. 1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
Scandinavian_Hunter-Gatherer:SWE_Motala_HG,0.13249,0.0895696,0.1651034 ,0.187341,0.0864774,0.0551646,-0.00235,0.008538,0.0376324,-0.0389258,0.0016562,-0.0187034,0.0310404,-0.0173406,0.0315686,0.049297,0.005763,0.0024324,-0.006335,0.039744,0.0507604,0.014418,-0.022086,-0.0977008,0.0070412
Rudnaya:RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0162197,-0.4440402,0.0722185,-0.0511148,-0.0373912,-0.0395328,0.0034075,0.0084802,0.0064935,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.0030848,0.0086702,-0.0096025,-0.0133915,-0.0007825,0.0089,0.0174408,0.0100362,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.0174702,-0.00244,-0.0145795
Beringian:USA_Ancient_Beringian,0.0432525,-0.3051665,0.0873035,0.081073,-0.0887855,-0.020777,-0.1215005,-0.150686,-0.020657,-0.0218685,0.008038,-0.009816,0.0097375,-0.0141065,-0.009093,0.004508,0.002021,0.0119085,0.003017,0.01 39445,-0.005927,0.0059355,0.00721,0.0040965,-0.0006585
Siberian:RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.043253,-0.337156,0.087492,0.045543,-0.07663,-0.02259,-0.047707,-0.050767,-0.006545,-0.024055,0.005846,-0.006145,0.017988,-0.026424,-0.021851,-0.004243,0.001173,0.012162,0.018101,0.008879,0.004 118,-0.023247,0.013311,0.009158,0.009221
Amerindian:BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Sub-Saharan:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?325955-G25-Refreshing-Ancient-Components-by-Rocinante-(Scaled)

Usé ese modelo; y éstos son los resultados con la distancia más baja:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.6253% / 0.02625250
35.6 Amerindian
32.0 Early_European_Farmer
12.8 Western_Steppe_Herder
6.6 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
5.4 Iran_Neolithic
4.6 Iberomaurusian
2.6 Sub-Saharan
0.4 Dravidian


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.0262% / 0.02026237
34.6 Amerindian
32.2 Early_European_Farmer
13.6 Western_Steppe_Herder
6.0 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
5.2 Iberomaurusian
4.6 Iran_Neolithic
3.2 Sub-Saharan
0.6 Jomon


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.4352% / 0.02435150
41.2 Amerindian
32.4 Early_European_Farmer
12.6 Western_Steppe_Herder
4.8 Western_Hunter-Gatherer
2.8 Dravidian
2.4 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
2.4 Sub-Saharan
1.2 Iberomaurusian
0.2 Siberian

No entiendo el alto nivel de Dravídico que consigue mi padre en este modelo (Y una mínima cantidad en otros), para mí no tiene sentido, quizá la calculadora esté leyendo los componentes y creé que sea eso? Pero que en realidad haya un asolapamiento? No tengo idea xDDD

Pero bueno; ahí están los resultados de ese modelo xdd espero conseguir el G25 de mi hermana pronto lol

Defcon2
01-22-2022, 05:18 AM
Aquí en México no usamos paja jajaja al menos no para ese sentido xd pero entendí a lo que te referías

Pues un lástima loco jaja he llegado tardísimo con esto de los tests y G25; ya casi nadie participa, como que se acabó la emoción de esto y me siento un poco solo :(

Sigue habiendo interés por esto pero no en este foro, en Anthrogenica se publican nuevas calculadoras constantemente.

mitalit
03-02-2022, 12:58 PM
Sigue habiendo interés por esto pero no en este foro, en Anthrogenica se publican nuevas calculadoras constantemente.
Aunque en la pagina de nebula me pone "Your results are being processed!". Aunque supongo que eso lo pone simplemente con registrar el kit pero aun no les ha llegado. En tu caso que te pone? Te enviaron una notificacion cuando llegaron?

Defcon2
03-02-2022, 03:07 PM
Aunque en la pagina de nebula me pone "Your results are being processed!". Aunque supongo que eso lo pone simplemente con registrar el kit pero aun no les ha llegado. En tu caso que te pone? Te enviaron una notificacion cuando llegaron?

Mandan un email cuando les llega en el laboratorio

gixajo
03-02-2022, 03:57 PM
Mandan un email cuando les llega en el laboratorio


Aunque en la pagina de nebula me pone "Your results are being processed!". Aunque supongo que eso lo pone simplemente con registrar el kit pero aun no les ha llegado. En tu caso que te pone? Te enviaron una notificacion cuando llegaron?

¿Cuánto pagásteis vosotros?

Ahora mismo el "Deep" está en 299 dólares.

Defcon2
03-02-2022, 04:54 PM
¿Cuánto pagásteis vosotros?

Ahora mismo el "Deep" está en 299 dólares.

En el Black friday por 179$

mitalit
03-02-2022, 07:33 PM
Mandan un email cuando les llega en el laboratorio

Y cuando te llegaron al laboratorio? Les he enviado un mensaje a Nebula

Defcon2
03-02-2022, 07:44 PM
Y cuando te llegaron al laboratorio? Les he enviado un mensaje a Nebula

Este es el email que me enviaron, pensé que los resultados estaban listos pero cuando me detuve a leerlo mas detenidamente simplemente me informaba de que la muestra estaba en el laboratorio, durante el resto del mes he estado inquieto con la cosa de que la muestra de saliva no pasase el filtro de calidad pero no me han dicho nada desde entonces.

https://i.imgur.com/IQvTYJo.jpg

Defcon2
03-02-2022, 08:20 PM
Y cuando te llegaron al laboratorio? Les he enviado un mensaje a Nebula

Yo envié la muestra por correo el 22 de diciembre y se cursó a destino el 27 de diciembre, en tu caso es el 7 de enero no? igual no hay problema alguno y puede haber margen.

https://i.imgur.com/4u42iSf.jpg

mitalit
03-02-2022, 08:25 PM
Yo envié la muestra por correo el 22 de diciembre y se cursó a destino el 27 de diciembre, en tu caso es el 7 de enero no? igual no hay problema alguno y puede haber margen.

https://i..com/4u42iSf.jpg

Sii, veo que según eso tu paquete aun no ha sido entregado, supongo que en los paquetes internacionales solo actualizan hasta que sale de España. Me quedo mas tranquilo
https://i.gyazo.com/e55d33d1864acb0ac0b2115e2af531cc.png

gixajo
03-02-2022, 09:16 PM
Si hay algún descuento el día del padre igual...

mitalit
03-03-2022, 10:57 AM
La casualidad que hoy me han enviado el mensaje de que ya ha entrado en el control de calidad

gixajo
03-03-2022, 02:22 PM
La casualidad que hoy me han enviado el mensaje de que ya ha entrado en el control de calidad

No creo que pase el control de calidad, porque el adn de un bilbaíno es siempre malo.

Y el de Defcon, con lo mala gente que es, lo mismo.

Defcon2
03-03-2022, 04:35 PM
La casualidad que hoy me han enviado el mensaje de que ya ha entrado en el control de calidad

No será por el mensaje que les mandaste?

mitalit
03-03-2022, 08:13 PM
No creo que pase el control de calidad, porque el adn de un bilbaíno es siempre malo.

Y el de Defcon, con lo mala gente que es, lo mismo.
Después de leer tu comentario les he enviado un mensaje advirtiéndoles de que soy de Bilbao. Y sabes que? Me han dicho que en ese caso no hay duda de su calidad, así que en una semanita ya tengo los resultados.

No será por el mensaje que les mandaste?
Es posible, pero ni me han respondido al mensaje. Simplemente me han enviado el mismo mensaje que te enviaron a ti

Beowulf
03-04-2022, 06:29 AM
My results from spain Baleares



112932

gixajo
03-04-2022, 07:55 AM
My results from spain Baleares


Aquí podemos hablar en castellano.

Bueno o en catalán balear, si hay otro que lo hable contigo claro.

¿Te hiciste el test con MyHeritage o 23andMe? Soy un pobre viejo al que le tiemblan los ojos y se le nublan las rodillas y no me acuerdo si he visto esos resultados tuyos posteados.

Beowulf
03-04-2022, 10:25 AM
ah es verdad error mio son los de mi madre de my true ancestry yo y mis padres lo hicimos con my heritage

mitalit
03-04-2022, 09:01 PM
Using the standard calculator of Davidski.

Edad de Piedra

Mesolitico

Target: Iberia_Northeast_UP_Azilian:BAL051
Distance: 0.0380% / 0.03804542
87.8 WHG
8.5 Jarawa
1.2 Han
1.0 TUR_Barcin_N
0.7 Dinka
0.7 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northwest_Meso:Chan
Distance: 0.0515% / 0.05151781
83.0 WHG
10.4 Jarawa
2.8 MAR_Taforalt
2.4 Han
1.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_Northwest_Meso:Canes
Distance: 0.0315% / 0.03149688
88.1 WHG
8.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.4 Nganassan
0.7 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_Meso:I10899
Distance: 0.0354% / 0.03543236
77.1 WHG
11.0 Jarawa
6.2 Levant_PPNB
3.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.8 Nganassan
0.1 ETH_4500BP

Neolitico

Target: Iberia_Southwest_MLN:I8134
Distance: 0.0552% / 0.05520585
77.9 TUR_Barcin_N
21.3 WHG
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_MLN:I7550
Distance: 0.0463% / 0.04631444
71.5 TUR_Barcin_N
28.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southwest_MLN:I7549
Distance: 0.0541% / 0.05409135
79.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.8 WHG
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_EN:I10942
Distance: 0.0593% / 0.05925385
84.7 TUR_Barcin_N
15.3 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I8568
Distance: 0.0533% / 0.05332683
76.4 TUR_Barcin_N
23.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7644
Distance: 0.0491% / 0.04907731
80.1 TUR_Barcin_N
19.9 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7642
Distance: 0.0683% / 0.06833085
78.5 TUR_Barcin_N
21.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7601
Distance: 0.0632% / 0.06315726
75.3 TUR_Barcin_N
24.5 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7600
Distance: 0.0749% / 0.07490962
78.4 TUR_Barcin_N
20.3 WHG
1.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7598
Distance: 0.0577% / 0.05769945
80.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_MLN:I7594
Distance: 0.0593% / 0.05928720
80.2 TUR_Barcin_N
18.8 WHG
1.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I11306
Distance: 0.0666% / 0.06660606
74.6 TUR_Barcin_N
25.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I11305
Distance: 0.0580% / 0.05804630
81.5 TUR_Barcin_N
18.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I10287
Distance: 0.0510% / 0.05099342
77.4 TUR_Barcin_N
22.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I10285
Distance: 0.0642% / 0.06421011
72.8 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I10280
Distance: 0.0612% / 0.06123296
77.4 TUR_Barcin_N
22.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I10278
Distance: 0.0667% / 0.06665198
75.9 TUR_Barcin_N
23.2 WHG
0.9 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_MLN:I10277
Distance: 0.0495% / 0.04948135
76.2 TUR_Barcin_N
23.5 WHG
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I7606
Distance: 0.0563% / 0.05628107
70.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I7605
Distance: 0.0598% / 0.05977170
68.9 TUR_Barcin_N
29.7 WHG
1.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I7604
Distance: 0.0557% / 0.05571901
71.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.1 WHG
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I7603
Distance: 0.0685% / 0.06849085
72.5 TUR_Barcin_N
27.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I7602
Distance: 0.0495% / 0.04952537
70.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.3 WHG
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I11301
Distance: 0.0630% / 0.06303219
70.9 TUR_Barcin_N
29.1 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I11249
Distance: 0.0542% / 0.05424949
70.3 TUR_Barcin_N
29.7 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_MLN:I11248
Distance: 0.0563% / 0.05630463
70.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_N:TOR.8
Distance: 0.0368% / 0.03676317
80.9 TUR_Barcin_N
16.7 WHG
2.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_N:TOR.6
Distance: 0.0488% / 0.04877990
77.6 TUR_Barcin_N
22.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_N:mur
Distance: 0.0652% / 0.06515998
80.9 TUR_Barcin_N
18.5 WHG
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_N:I2199
Distance: 0.0540% / 0.05396847
90.4 TUR_Barcin_N
9.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_N:I1972
Distance: 0.0612% / 0.06120351
86.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 WHG

Target: Iberia_N:I0413
Distance: 0.0588% / 0.05877119
88.0 TUR_Barcin_N
12.0 WHG

Target: Iberia_N:I0412
Distance: 0.0426% / 0.04257017
87.6 TUR_Barcin_N
11.6 WHG
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_N:I0410
Distance: 0.0709% / 0.07089611
90.8 TUR_Barcin_N
8.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_N:I0409
Distance: 0.0501% / 0.05014399
87.1 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 WHG

Target: Iberia_MN:I0408
Distance: 0.0540% / 0.05399015
75.6 TUR_Barcin_N
24.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_MN:I0407
Distance: 0.0543% / 0.05426821
75.5 TUR_Barcin_N
23.6 WHG
0.9 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_MN:I0406
Distance: 0.0504% / 0.05042148
74.5 TUR_Barcin_N
24.1 WHG
0.8 Han
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_MN:I0405
Distance: 0.0533% / 0.05325404
74.1 TUR_Barcin_N
24.3 WHG
1.6 MAR_Taforalt


Edad de los Metales

Edad de bronce

Target: Iberia_Southwest_BA:I10941
Distance: 0.0476% / 0.04764652
66.9 TUR_Barcin_N
23.1 WHG
9.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_BA:I10939
Distance: 0.0384% / 0.03844134
63.3 TUR_Barcin_N
21.3 WHG
9.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.7 MAR_Taforalt
2.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.9 Nganassan

Target: Iberia_Southwest_BA_Afr:I7162
Distance: 0.0456% / 0.04555314
60.5 TUR_Barcin_N
20.6 WHG
11.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8570
Distance: 0.0499% / 0.04989732
61.4 TUR_Barcin_N
20.0 WHG
17.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_BA:I8136
Distance: 0.0517% / 0.05169065
67.1 TUR_Barcin_N
23.3 WHG
8.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.3 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_Southeast_BA:I3997
Distance: 0.0571% / 0.05708705
65.7 TUR_Barcin_N
23.7 WHG
9.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_BA:I3494
Distance: 0.0463% / 0.04628495
68.5 TUR_Barcin_N
24.2 WHG
6.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.5 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4563
Distance: 0.0474% / 0.04744159
61.4 TUR_Barcin_N
23.0 WHG
15.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.2 Han

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4562
Distance: 0.0374% / 0.03737109
61.8 TUR_Barcin_N
23.5 WHG
14.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4561
Distance: 0.0504% / 0.05036220
58.1 TUR_Barcin_N
24.0 WHG
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.3 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.1 Han
0.1 Nganassan

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4560
Distance: 0.0486% / 0.04859314
60.8 TUR_Barcin_N
21.2 WHG
17.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I4559
Distance: 0.0463% / 0.04631948
60.7 TUR_Barcin_N
26.1 WHG
12.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 Han
0.2 Nganassan

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1836
Distance: 0.0425% / 0.04246613
61.5 TUR_Barcin_N
20.3 WHG
18.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1313_d
Distance: 0.0402% / 0.04020760
63.8 TUR_Barcin_N
21.2 WHG
13.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_BA:I1310
Distance: 0.0388% / 0.03883757
60.6 TUR_Barcin_N
23.8 WHG
14.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_North_BA:VAD005
Distance: 0.0420% / 0.04199712
59.9 TUR_Barcin_N
24.3 WHG
15.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Iberia_North_BA:VAD004
Distance: 0.0551% / 0.05507098
61.2 TUR_Barcin_N
19.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
19.3 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_BA:VAD001
Distance: 0.0509% / 0.05093144
58.9 TUR_Barcin_N
23.3 WHG
17.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.3 MAR_Taforalt
0.2 Han

Target: Iberia_North_BA:I2471
Distance: 0.0491% / 0.04913686
60.0 TUR_Barcin_N
21.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.8 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_BA:I2470
Distance: 0.0504% / 0.05039060
62.7 TUR_Barcin_N
22.2 WHG
14.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_North_BA:I1840
Distance: 0.0355% / 0.03548113
61.1 TUR_Barcin_N
26.1 WHG
12.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Iberia_Menorca_LBA:I3315
Distance: 0.0478% / 0.04781793
59.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.7 WHG
19.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Mallorca_EBA:I4329
Distance: 0.0495% / 0.04954400
56.6 TUR_Barcin_N
25.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2 WHG
0.4 Han

Target: Iberia_Formentera_MBA:I4420_all
Distance: 0.0399% / 0.03985646
61.7 TUR_Barcin_N
18.7 WHG
17.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.7 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I6618
Distance: 0.0420% / 0.04199472
65.3 TUR_Barcin_N
22.6 WHG
11.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I6470
Distance: 0.0367% / 0.03671702
59.1 TUR_Barcin_N
23.8 WHG
15.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I3756
Distance: 0.0551% / 0.05514586
63.5 TUR_Barcin_N
24.5 WHG
10.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.3 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I3493
Distance: 0.0527% / 0.05273756
58.4 TUR_Barcin_N
21.3 WHG
17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.6 Han
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I3490
Distance: 0.0401% / 0.04006011
60.3 TUR_Barcin_N
26.3 WHG
12.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.2 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I12209
Distance: 0.0437% / 0.04373733
59.0 TUR_Barcin_N
22.1 WHG
16.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_BA:I12208
Distance: 0.0465% / 0.04651774
62.2 TUR_Barcin_N
21.3 WHG
14.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
1.9 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_ElMiron:ElMiron
Distance: 0.0305% / 0.03050705
69.7 WHG
11.1 Jarawa
5.7 Levant_PPNB
4.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
2.5 Han
2.3 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.2 ETH_4500BP
0.7 TUR_Barcin_N

Bell Beakers

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I6588
Distance: 0.0637% / 0.06369472
54.0 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.6 WHG

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I6587
Distance: 0.0631% / 0.06312699
74.2 TUR_Barcin_N
23.2 WHG
2.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I6584
Distance: 0.0541% / 0.05413363
75.3 TUR_Barcin_N
24.5 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I6539
Distance: 0.0445% / 0.04452534
60.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.5 WHG
19.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I6472
Distance: 0.0605% / 0.06049380
56.5 TUR_Barcin_N
21.7 WHG
19.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I5665
Distance: 0.0449% / 0.04492889
59.1 TUR_Barcin_N
24.0 WHG
15.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.9 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.3 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I4247
Distance: 0.0615% / 0.06149298
77.8 TUR_Barcin_N
22.2 WHG

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I4229
Distance: 0.0469% / 0.04688845
73.1 TUR_Barcin_N
23.6 WHG
2.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.7 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.4 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I1970
Distance: 0.0747% / 0.07467812
74.7 TUR_Barcin_N
25.3 WHG

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I0840
Distance: 0.0574% / 0.05744915
73.6 TUR_Barcin_N
23.7 WHG
1.7 MAR_Taforalt
1.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I0826
Distance: 0.0729% / 0.07289398
76.4 TUR_Barcin_N
23.6 WHG

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I0461
Distance: 0.0444% / 0.04443404
55.8 TUR_Barcin_N
22.9 WHG
17.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.5 MAR_Taforalt
1.0 Han

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I0460
Distance: 0.0647% / 0.06467103
71.1 TUR_Barcin_N
28.9 WHG

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia:I0459
Distance: 0.0476% / 0.04761128
72.3 TUR_Barcin_N
26.9 WHG
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Bell_Beaker_Iberia_C:I6542
Distance: 0.0547% / 0.05465254
70.6 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 WHG

Edad de cobre
Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I6601
Distance: 0.0606% / 0.06059576
76.8 TUR_Barcin_N
22.9 WHG
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I5429
Distance: 0.0531% / 0.05309848
77.0 TUR_Barcin_N
23.0 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I5428
Distance: 0.0489% / 0.04888864
74.9 TUR_Barcin_N
24.4 WHG
0.4 Jarawa
0.3 Nganassan

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I5076
Distance: 0.0625% / 0.06246408
75.5 TUR_Barcin_N
23.7 WHG
0.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I3432
Distance: 0.0525% / 0.05253692
77.2 TUR_Barcin_N
22.8 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I11614
Distance: 0.0523% / 0.05228104
76.5 TUR_Barcin_N
23.3 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I11605
Distance: 0.0532% / 0.05323273
72.6 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I11600
Distance: 0.1116% / 0.11158244
69.2 TUR_Barcin_N
30.8 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I11599
Distance: 0.0594% / 0.05943897
72.1 TUR_Barcin_N
26.0 WHG
1.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 Han

Target: Iberia_Southwest_CA:I11592
Distance: 0.0577% / 0.05768408
75.8 TUR_Barcin_N
24.0 WHG
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8569
Distance: 0.0460% / 0.04598753
77.5 TUR_Barcin_N
22.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8566
Distance: 0.0739% / 0.07386956
74.1 TUR_Barcin_N
24.6 WHG
1.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8365
Distance: 0.0496% / 0.04958166
76.8 TUR_Barcin_N
19.9 WHG
3.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8364
Distance: 0.0468% / 0.04676683
78.6 TUR_Barcin_N
21.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8199
Distance: 0.0589% / 0.05886632
78.4 TUR_Barcin_N
21.3 WHG
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8198
Distance: 0.0573% / 0.05725694
77.1 TUR_Barcin_N
21.7 WHG
0.9 MAR_Taforalt
0.3 Han

Target: Iberia_Southeast_CA:I8197
Distance: 0.0493% / 0.04927036
78.8 TUR_Barcin_N
20.9 WHG
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northwest_CA_Stp:I3238
Distance: 0.0469% / 0.04686212
49.1 TUR_Barcin_N
26.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
21.9 WHG
1.5 MAR_Taforalt
0.9 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_CA:I4565
Distance: 0.0542% / 0.05419608
74.5 TUR_Barcin_N
25.5 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_CA:I1978
Distance: 0.0574% / 0.05742023
72.8 TUR_Barcin_N
27.2 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_CA:I1846
Distance: 0.0670% / 0.06703515
74.0 TUR_Barcin_N
26.0 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_CA:I1845
Distance: 0.0723% / 0.07226041
75.3 TUR_Barcin_N
24.7 WHG

Target: Iberia_North_CA:I1842
Distance: 0.0602% / 0.06017213
71.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.2 WHG

Target: Iberia_Central_CA:I6617
Distance: 0.0611% / 0.06113631
75.4 TUR_Barcin_N
24.6 WHG

Target: Iberia_Central_CA:I6609
Distance: 0.0594% / 0.05935603
76.7 TUR_Barcin_N
22.9 WHG
0.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_CA:I6604
Distance: 0.0717% / 0.07171930
72.6 TUR_Barcin_N
27.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_Central_CA:I3485
Distance: 0.0512% / 0.05116462
73.1 TUR_Barcin_N
23.8 WHG
2.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Central_CA_Stp:EHU002
Distance: 0.0381% / 0.03808379
53.4 TUR_Barcin_N
23.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
23.0 WHG

Target: Iberia_Central_CA_Stp:EHU001
Distance: 0.0403% / 0.04026229
42.4 TUR_Barcin_N
40.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.2 WHG
1.1 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_Central_CA_Afr:I4246
Distance: 0.0365% / 0.03646864
44.0 TUR_Barcin_N
29.2 MAR_Taforalt
14.3 Levant_PPNB
8.8 Dinka
2.4 WHG
1.3 Yoruba
Edad de hierro

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3759
Distance: 0.0385% / 0.03852999
53.8 TUR_Barcin_N
25.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
19.7 WHG
0.8 Han

Target: Iberia_North_IA:I3758
Distance: 0.0524% / 0.05242570
52.3 TUR_Barcin_N
26.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.1 WHG
1.0 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3327
Distance: 0.0562% / 0.05616171
61.7 TUR_Barcin_N
22.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.7 WHG
1.0 MAR_Taforalt
0.5 Han

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3324
Distance: 0.0461% / 0.04614214
52.8 TUR_Barcin_N
28.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.1 WHG
2.0 Han

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3323
Distance: 0.0382% / 0.03819349
63.0 TUR_Barcin_N
19.5 WHG
17.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3322
Distance: 0.0610% / 0.06103614
59.7 TUR_Barcin_N
20.9 WHG
18.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.6 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3321
Distance: 0.0515% / 0.05149796
59.2 TUR_Barcin_N
23.2 WHG
17.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I3320
Distance: 0.0417% / 0.04165355
58.7 TUR_Barcin_N
20.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.9 WHG
2.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I12879
Distance: 0.0533% / 0.05330999
54.5 TUR_Barcin_N
27.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.8 WHG

Target: Iberia_East_IA:I12410
Distance: 0.0423% / 0.04228289
61.1 TUR_Barcin_N
21.2 WHG
17.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.4 Hans
Edad Antigua

Púnico

Target: Iberia_Ibiza_Punic:MS10614
Distance: 0.0277% / 0.02774567
51.5 TUR_Barcin_N
11.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
8.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
8.7 MAR_Taforalt
8.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.5 Han
0.4 Yoruba
0.2 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8215
Distance: 0.0222% / 0.02222215
65.4 TUR_Barcin_N
15.6 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
14.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.2 Han

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries2:I8208
Distance: 0.0369% / 0.03685429
38.4 TUR_Barcin_N
35.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
17.1 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
8.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.4 Han
0.4 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.1 Jarawa

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214
Distance: 0.0337% / 0.03372711
48.2 TUR_Barcin_N
32.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.7 WHG
0.5 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209
Distance: 0.0456% / 0.04558864
52.7 TUR_Barcin_N
31.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
16.0 WHG

Periodo romano

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE:I4054
Distance: 0.0366% / 0.03655403
57.5 TUR_Barcin_N
20.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.0 MAR_Taforalt
6.2 WHG
4.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.2 Yoruba
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
0.6 Levant_PPNB
0.1 Dinka
0.1 Han

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE:I3983
Distance: 0.0298% / 0.02984079
47.4 TUR_Barcin_N
20.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
10.4 MAR_Taforalt
5.7 WHG
1.8 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.4 ETH_4500BP
1.1 Levant_PPNB

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.3-4CE:I3982
Distance: 0.0381% / 0.03809885
46.9 TUR_Barcin_N
19.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.1 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
10.3 WHG
9.5 MAR_Taforalt
0.7 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8206
Distance: 0.0466% / 0.04663144
45.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
38.8 TUR_Barcin_N
15.6 WHG
0.1 Jarawa

Target: Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203
Distance: 0.0416% / 0.04158570
51.0 TUR_Barcin_N
35.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.8 WHG
0.1 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_RomP:I8339
Distance: 0.0435% / 0.04352447
54.7 TUR_Barcin_N
25.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.5 WHG
0.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.2 Jarawa
Edad Media

Era germanica y principios de era musulmana

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12163
Distance: 0.0322% / 0.03215417
45.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
45.1 TUR_Barcin_N
9.4 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12162
Distance: 0.0440% / 0.04397543
43.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
42.4 TUR_Barcin_N
11.8 WHG
1.3 Han
0.6 Yoruba
0.2 ETH_4500BP

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12034
Distance: 0.0412% / 0.04123032
52.9 TUR_Barcin_N
29.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.2 WHG
0.3 Han

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12032
Distance: 0.0392% / 0.03924773
45.0 TUR_Barcin_N
40.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.3 WHG

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6CE_PL:I12031
Distance: 0.0326% / 0.03255090
43.5 TUR_Barcin_N
43.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
3.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.5 Han

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I7673
Distance: 0.0502% / 0.05024528
42.7 TUR_Barcin_N
29.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 WHG
10.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.8 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES:I3777
Distance: 0.0406% / 0.04064348
49.6 TUR_Barcin_N
35.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.0 WHG
1.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3981
Distance: 0.0297% / 0.02970843
57.4 TUR_Barcin_N
21.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 MAR_Taforalt
7.9 WHG
2.1 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.8 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3980
Distance: 0.0233% / 0.02326018
37.3 TUR_Barcin_N
27.3 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
13.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.8 MAR_Taforalt
4.7 WHG
4.3 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
4.2 Dinka
1.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.0 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3585
Distance: 0.0252% / 0.02517168
55.7 TUR_Barcin_N
26.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.7 WHG
7.4 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3582
Distance: 0.0299% / 0.02989275
54.9 TUR_Barcin_N
19.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 WHG
9.6 MAR_Taforalt
3.1 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.7 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3581
Distance: 0.0268% / 0.02677060
49.3 TUR_Barcin_N
21.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.4 MAR_Taforalt
10.7 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.2 WHG

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3576
Distance: 0.0317% / 0.03171798
37.9 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
22.5 TUR_Barcin_N
16.1 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.1 MAR_Taforalt
10.1 WHG
1.3 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.5-8CE:I3575
Distance: 0.0463% / 0.04627775
31.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
25.2 TUR_Barcin_N
21.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.4 MAR_Taforalt
6.1 WHG
1.8 Yoruba
0.6 Han

Periodo musulmán

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10895
Distance: 0.0337% / 0.03367050
55.5 TUR_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.0 WHG
3.6 MAR_Taforalt
0.1 Nganassan

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10892
Distance: 0.0422% / 0.04222020
55.1 TUR_Barcin_N
30.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.8 WHG
3.0 MAR_Taforalt
2.6 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10853
Distance: 0.0410% / 0.04096245
49.9 TUR_Barcin_N
27.7 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
7.7 WHG
3.0 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
2.3 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Northeast_c.8-12CE:I10852
Distance: 0.0305% / 0.03051362
55.3 TUR_Barcin_N
25.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.7 WHG
2.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.8 Han
0.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

Final de era musulmana y era cristiana

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I8146
Distance: 0.0309% / 0.03090333
54.4 TUR_Barcin_N
19.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.0 MAR_Taforalt
5.8 WHG
4.2 Dinka
2.2 Yoruba
0.7 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.7 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7499
Distance: 0.0217% / 0.02170097
38.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
21.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
19.5 Levant_PPNB
9.7 MAR_Taforalt
5.7 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
5.5 WHG
0.4 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7498
Distance: 0.0274% / 0.02735447
53.2 TUR_Barcin_N
25.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.2 WHG
8.9 MAR_Taforalt
1.8 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.8 Han
0.5 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7457
Distance: 0.0262% / 0.02624469
55.0 TUR_Barcin_N
23.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
13.6 MAR_Taforalt
6.3 WHG
1.3 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7425
Distance: 0.0379% / 0.03786416
37.9 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
23.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
17.4 TUR_Barcin_N
9.4 MAR_Taforalt
7.7 WHG
4.2 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I7424
Distance: 0.0355% / 0.03545003
60.8 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
22.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.1 MAR_Taforalt
7.9 WHG
0.5 Han
0.1 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I3808
Distance: 0.0224% / 0.02240345
27.6 Levant_PPNB
21.0 TUR_Barcin_N
20.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.9 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
6.4 MAR_Taforalt
6.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
3.3 WHG
0.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12647
Distance: 0.0308% / 0.03081784
55.5 TUR_Barcin_N
25.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 MAR_Taforalt
8.7 WHG
0.2 Han
0.2 Yoruba

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12644
Distance: 0.0300% / 0.03002071
53.9 TUR_Barcin_N
25.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.4 MAR_Taforalt
7.7 WHG
0.3 ETH_4500BP
0.1 Han

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12516
Distance: 0.0394% / 0.03943445
58.9 TUR_Barcin_N
26.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.7 WHG
4.4 MAR_Taforalt
1.1 Dinka

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12515
Distance: 0.0387% / 0.03865277
38.9 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
26.3 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
19.4 TUR_Barcin_N
9.7 WHG
5.7 MAR_Taforalt

Target: Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12514
Distance: 0.0331% / 0.03307634
51.1 TUR_Barcin_N
27.5 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.4 WHG
9.1 MAR_Taforalt
1.9 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N

HelloGuys
03-05-2022, 06:35 PM
El G25 de mi hermana ha llegado:

Modelo de Davidski

Target: Hermana_scaled
Distance: 0.0228% / 0.02277624
37.0 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.5 TUR_Barcin_N
12.9 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
8.0 WHG
3.5 MAR_Taforalt
3.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.0 Yoruba
1.1 Han
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Estoy impresionado por la cantidad de WHG que tiene; es la más alta de la familia, además del Han que sacó y el SSA más bajo de todos también.


Modelo de Rocinante

Target: Hermana_scaled
Distance: 0.0235% / 0.02350428
36.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.9 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
7.0 WHG
4.0 MAR_Taforalt
3.4 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
1.7 Siberian_Mesolithic
1.6 Yoruba
0.6 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728

Beowulf
03-06-2022, 05:08 PM
Me recomendariais una calculadora gratiuta para mi? de vahaduo o gedmatch etc... soy de España como no

gixajo
03-06-2022, 05:19 PM
Me recomendariais una calculadora gratiuta para mi? de vahaduo o gedmatch etc... soy de España como no

Con los porcentajes de cada calculador de Gedmatch haces las respectivas coordenadas para usar aquí:

https://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

Yo hago las coordenadas a mano, pero en teoría aquí te las hace automáticamente copiando y pegando los porcentajes de Gedmatch:

https://www.exploreyourdna.com/convert-vahaduo.aspx


Gedmatch es gratuito y Vahaduo for Gedmatch también.

Si pagas por obtener tus coordenadas del G25, ya podrás usar las del G25.

Beowulf
03-07-2022, 08:54 AM
Lo que me dio el k36:
Distance to: ivan
9.32018777 Spain_Catalan
9.48439244 Spain_Andalusia
9.50198400 France_South
9.58584373 Portugal
9.70251514 Spain_Galicia
9.73206556 Spain_average
10.41074925 Spain_Canarians
10.73643330 Azores
10.75523129 Spain_Valencia
11.21807916 Spain_Baleares
11.50239975 Spain_Aragon
14.47285044 Spain_Cantabria
15.49030342 Italy_Aosta
15.85394903 France_Central
16.10088196 Italy_North
16.39472476 France
16.88292036 Swiss_Italian
17.32559378 Mexican_White
18.44540051 Puertorican
18.69532294 Italy_Veneto
18.81856530 Italy_Friuli
18.84812192 FR_Corsica
19.27104045 Italy_Tuscany
20.49601913 Italy_Marche
20.69072014 Spain_North
20.84245907 Italy_Lazio
20.91215914 Swiss_German
22.15158911 France_NorthWest
22.33088668 France_NorthEast
22.67009484 Argentinian
22.82826099 France_SW
23.31718251 Austria_Tyrol
23.33757700 Venezuelan
23.91441197 FR_Bretagne
24.13785823 German_South
24.26615132 FR_Finistère
24.36675604 Kosovo
24.36957529 Albania_Montenegro
24.39209708 Greek_Euboea
24.75769375 Albania_North
24.85972647 Germany_West
24.94797186 Belgium
25.20243242 Chile_Castizo
25.76242225 Montenegrian
25.91267258 Albania_South
26.01672347 Austria
26.02330302 Sicily_Trapani
26.10646280 Greek_Peloponnese
26.13686668 Bosnian
26.14541642 Greek_Central
26.32161849 Greek_Macedonia
26.41037675 Romania_NW
26.41785949 Albania_FYROM
26.42471381 Sicily_Palermo
26.44822300 Romania_SE
26.44974858 Dalmatian_Serbian
26.52799088 Macedonia_FYROM
26.61612857 Malta
26.73257563 Colombia
26.80500140 Sicily_Agrigento

mi mezcla conocida es españoles del norte, italianos del norte, vascos franceses, y britanicos

gixajo
03-07-2022, 03:17 PM
Lo que me dio el k36:

mi mezcla conocida es españoles del norte, italianos del norte, vascos franceses, y britanicos

Pues con los porcentajes de Gedmatch del Eurogenes K36 aquí consigues un mapa bastante majo: https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

Gratuito también.

Beowulf
03-07-2022, 04:26 PM
el mapa ya lo hice hace tiempo aqui lo tienes:


112965

gixajo
03-07-2022, 07:28 PM
Posted in AG by Altvred, from Genomic transformation and social organization during the CA-BA transition in Southern Iberia (https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abi7038).


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Argar_Almoloya_Early:ALM041,0.130897,0.1635,0.0463 86,-0.022933,0.069244,-0.02008,-0.000705,0.000462,0.044382,0.066152,-0.005034,0.007194,-0.020367,-0.01679,-0.003936,0.006762,0.000913,0.002787,0.004022,0.005 253,0.009358,0.008408,-0.01368,-0.032655,-0.001078
Argar_Almoloya_Early:ALM042,0.124067,0.151314,0.05 0911,-0.004199,0.064012,-0.010319,-0.00329,0.006461,0.048063,0.06032,0.000487,0.01243 9,-0.027651,-0.032892,0.002443,0.008884,0.014081,0.001647,0.007 165,0.004127,0.002995,0.007296,-0.007025,-0.030004,-0.002036
Argar_Almoloya_Early:ALM043,0.125205,0.158423,0.05 0911,-0.008721,0.067089,-0.008088,0.00893,-0.003461,0.043359,0.061778,0.001299,0.002548,-0.020812,-0.014588,-0.014794,0.000928,-0.005085,0.000127,0.005656,-0.002001,0.019466,0.007419,-0.00986,-0.023618,0.001676
Argar_Almoloya_Early:ALM047,0.124067,0.158423,0.05 5814,-0.010336,0.067705,-0.008367,-0.00376,-0.001846,0.039882,0.068156,-0.009743,0.016335,-0.024232,-0.015689,-0.004207,-0.001591,0.001695,0.009248,0.001885,0.01113,0.0096 08,-0.000247,-0.011832,-0.030366,-0.011017
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Argar_Almoloya_Late:ALM081,0.122929,0.152329,0.050 157,-0.015181,0.072937,-0.008925,-0.00047,-0.000692,0.055017,0.063236,-0.000487,0.016785,-0.024678,-0.014726,-0.000814,0.006629,0.002086,-0.005068,0.006285,-0.000875,0.007362,0.000618,-0.009737,-0.023015,0.001796
Argar_Almoloya_Late:ALM084,0.1161,0.156392,0.06297 9,-0.016796,0.074475,-0.013945,-0.004935,0.006231,0.051949,0.067974,-0.009906,0.018434,-0.029137,-0.013212,0.008686,0.005967,0.009648,-0.000633,-0.00729,0.000625,-0.001248,0.005317,-0.012695,-0.028558,0.000239
Argar_Almoloya_Late:ALM087,0.118376,0.152329,0.056 568,-0.018411,0.076322,-0.011992,-0.00423,0.000692,0.05604,0.07089,0.001949,0.015586 ,-0.015609,-0.003028,-0.006243,0.013392,0.013951,0.009755,-0.007668,-0.003126,0.008235,0.010387,0.004314,-0.015183,0.002395
Argar_Bastida:BAS002,0.122929,0.161469,0.045632,-0.005168,0.074475,-0.007251,-0.006345,0.010153,0.044177,0.061414,-0.004384,0.017385,-0.036125,-0.021607,0.000136,0.002121,0.005215,0.005448,-0.00088,-0.003126,0.010107,0.010758,-0.01442,-0.026992,0.005149
Argar_Bastida:BAS018,0.120652,0.138112,0.037712,-0.000323,0.064935,-0.009203,-0.004935,0.003231,0.062175,0.058862,-0.017051,0.010191,-0.019029,-0.024084,-0.004479,0.007425,0.007041,0.002914,0.002891,0.004 252,0.015098,0.000742,-0.023787,-0.030004,-0.000718
Argar_Bastida:BAS022,0.1161,0.151314,0.055437,-0.020349,0.064935,-0.01255,0.002585,0.004846,0.039269,0.065969,-0.003735,0.010491,-0.024678,-0.023396,0.007057,0.021877,0.015516,0.002027,-0.000628,-0.004377,0,0.002102,-0.008258,-0.016147,0.006227
Argar_Bastida:BAS023,0.122929,0.158423,0.0445,-0.012597,0.062165,-0.013666,0.004465,0.000231,0.055221,0.071983,-0.005846,0.005395,-0.028394,-0.013074,0.004207,-0.004375,-0.009779,0.005954,-0.001508,-0.002001,0.007112,-0.002844,-0.008011,-0.032896,0.002754
Argar_Bastida:BAS024,0.124067,0.152329,0.050911,-0.00969,0.072013,-0.000558,-0.00799,0.001846,0.046222,0.065241,-0.006171,0.013488,-0.030327,-0.015138,0.001493,0.005171,0.001043,-0.000127,0.005405,0.002376,0.010981,0.009274,-0.01442,-0.025666,0.006227
Argar_Bastida:BAS025,0.124067,0.146236,0.053928,-0.010659,0.077245,-0.006693,-0.004465,0.004154,0.045404,0.068339,-0.005359,0.015736,-0.018434,-0.013074,0.005836,0.009546,0.005085,0.006968,-0.002263,-0.001501,0.01148,-0.000866,-0.014297,-0.026389,0.005508
Argar_Bastida:BAS027,0.117238,0.160454,0.062602,-0.007752,0.075399,-0.014781,0.003525,0.002538,0.049495,0.068885,-0.009419,0.016335,-0.022894,-0.016928,0.005972,0.004243,0.019427,-0.000507,0.002514,0.004377,0.019715,0.005564,-0.008504,-0.036029,-0.011017
Argar_MolinosPapel:MDP002,0.12862,0.150298,0.05958 5,-0.004845,0.070475,-0.008088,0.00047,-0.001615,0.041109,0.067974,-0.004709,0.015286,-0.021407,-0.005367,-0.000136,0.003315,0.007693,0.001647,-0.007039,0.001501,0.000749,0.004081,-0.003944,-0.0241,0.001557
Menorca_Aritgues_LBA:EFA010,0.125205,0.151314,0.05 1666,0.005168,0.06155,-0.004741,-0.003525,-0.004615,0.034155,0.047017,-0.014128,0.018733,-0.015609,-0.018717,0.019001,0.019093,0.025816,0.005194,-0.002388,0.004627,0.007612,-0.006554,-0.003697,0.001928,-0.001557
Menorca_Aritgues_LBA:EFA011,0.132035,0.14319,0.055 437,0.012274,0.058165,0.006136,0.00611,-0.001154,0.037019,0.048657,-0.00341,0.003147,-0.015758,-0.018579,0.005429,0.000928,-0.003781,-0.004941,-0.003645,-0.007504,-0.000499,0.000866,-0.013434,-0.020123,0.007065
SE_CabezoRedondo_BA:CBR004,0.121791,0.159438,0.056 191,-0.011305,0.065243,-0.006136,-0.00282,0.009692,0.039269,0.060867,-0.000487,0.010641,-0.025421,-0.018579,0.004207,0.006895,0.004824,-0.004941,-0.005028,0.002126,0.011605,0.00272,-0.010969,-0.027233,-0.000479
SE_Iberia_BA_Argar:CMO001,0.124067,0.151314,0.0561 91,-0.005814,0.072013,-0.011435,0.00188,0.005769,0.056244,0.063965,-0.01088,0.012889,-0.019326,-0.010735,0.002443,0.003447,-0.002738,0.004434,-0.008422,-5e-04,0.016596,0.002102,-0.009244,-0.023497,0.004191
SE_Iberia_BA_LaHorna:LHO001,0.119514,0.151314,0.04 8271,0.002261,0.068936,-0.008925,-0.016451,0.005077,0.047859,0.065241,-0.002923,0.011989,-0.019772,-0.01101,0.004343,-0.001061,-0.007693,0.003294,0.002514,0.002501,0.012353,-0.001113,-0.012941,-0.03133,0.003233
SE_Iberia_BA_LaHorna:LHO002,0.121791,0.15436,0.057 322,-0.007106,0.070475,-0.004183,-0.00188,-0.000692,0.039064,0.062325,-0.003735,0.012139,-0.018137,-0.015414,-0.001764,0.02254,0.012647,-0.0019,0.003017,0.003502,0.012728,-0.003339,-0.009367,-0.020003,0
SE_Iberia_BA_LaHorna:LHO003,0.127482,0.153345,0.05 9208,0.008398,0.062165,-0.010877,-0.008225,0.008307,0.040291,0.062507,0.005196,0.014 087,-0.021704,-0.018579,0.001764,0.012861,0.017732,-0.00228,-0.000503,0.001501,-0.000998,0.005317,-0.009613,-0.022292,0.004071
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena:PLZ001,0.12862,0.159438,0.064 111,-0.002584,0.067397,-0.008367,-0.00094,0.004384,0.046631,0.059956,-0.005034,0.005695,-0.024826,-0.012799,0.001221,0.001724,0.003781,-0.002914,0.003645,-0.006003,0.010856,0.003215,-0.014297,-0.03868,0.004431
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena:PUC001,0.120652,0.1635,0.0588 31,-0.004845,0.071398,-0.016455,-0.00329,0.008538,0.051745,0.062689,-0.004384,0.005995,-0.024975,-0.017065,-0.00285,-0.022673,-0.012256,0.008108,0.002137,-0.001876,0.007861,0.001731,-0.015159,-0.032655,0.004431
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena:PUC002,0.126344,0.156392,0.06 3356,-0.00646,0.068013,-0.009482,-0.00376,0.004615,0.047654,0.068156,0.000325,0.0167 85,-0.02334,-0.015827,0.002036,-0.007558,-0.012256,0.00038,-0.007542,-0.004877,0.008859,0.009645,-0.011216,-0.036029,0.003233
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena:PUC003,0.122929,0.152329,0.05 9208,-0.002261,0.079707,-0.009761,0.002115,-0.003461,0.042745,0.057951,-0.000325,0.005695,-0.017393,-0.020919,0.0057,0.00769,0.011604,-0.004054,-0.004274,-0.014507,0.012603,0.000371,-0.009613,-0.023618,-0.001078
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena:PUC004,0.134311,0.158423,0.05 7322,-0.006137,0.064627,-0.007251,0.006345,0.012692,0.0452,0.069067,-0.002111,0.019633,-0.026908,-0.013625,0.001357,0.007955,-0.005085,0.004687,-0.007793,-0.001,0.010606,-0.000247,-0.01405,-0.029884,-0.000359
SE_Iberia_CA:CDM001,0.125205,0.165531,0.058077,-0.02907,0.088632,-0.021196,-0.006815,0.002769,0.061971,0.098225,-0.000325,0.013188,-0.021704,-0.009358,-0.013572,0.002917,0.010561,0.007095,-0.00088,-0.006378,0.003868,0.000371,-0.007518,-0.035788,-0.000838
SE_Iberia_CA:CDM002,0.120652,0.162485,0.048271,-0.04522,0.075706,-0.03765,-0.012926,-0.007615,0.066266,0.099865,-0.006983,0.017984,-0.038206,-0.018029,-0.007465,-0.000398,0.003651,0.003547,-0.001383,0.004002,0.013726,0.004328,-0.027731,-0.040367,-0.00012
SE_Iberia_CA:CDM003,0.124067,0.167562,0.04978,-0.03876,0.084016,-0.026495,0.00047,-0.002308,0.065857,0.09859,0.004384,0.015586,-0.038503,-0.020231,-0.008686,-0.003845,0.015776,0.00228,-0.002263,0.012506,0.000374,-0.008285,-0.012325,-0.020364,0.001317
SE_Iberia_CA:CDM006,0.124067,0.173656,0.044877,-0.043605,0.083708,-0.020638,-0.00423,0.006231,0.070356,0.099865,-0.00065,0.008992,-0.032408,-0.015827,-0.010858,0.000133,-0.000782,0.003167,0.008547,-0.011506,0.009733,-0.005441,-0.014666,-0.046151,0.008981
SE_Iberia_CA:CDP001,0.124067,0.173656,0.055814,-0.038437,0.093248,-0.019243,-0.007285,0.000231,0.065448,0.094034,-0.002436,0.012739,-0.026462,-0.018441,-0.002443,0.008884,0.021644,-0.00228,-0.001131,0.004252,0.014974,0.006183,0.000986,-0.037114,0.004071
SE_Iberia_CA:CDP002,0.119514,0.164516,0.05242,-0.055233,0.080938,-0.030399,-0.002115,-0.005769,0.061153,0.097314,-0.007632,0.016335,-0.034787,-0.019267,-0.009636,0.014585,0.02047,0.001394,-0.002011,-0.003377,0.009733,-0.005193,-0.021815,-0.03615,-0.006586
SE_Iberia_CA:CDP006,0.124067,0.178733,0.048649,-0.032623,0.091709,-0.028168,0.002115,0.007154,0.06422,0.094581,0.0063 33,0.023079,-0.035827,-0.01445,-0.010722,-0.001856,0.012517,0.0019,0.004525,-5e-04,0.000749,0.007419,-0.019966,-0.032294,-0.006466
SE_Iberia_CA:CDP011,0.121791,0.164516,0.044123,-0.043282,0.087093,-0.0251,-0.003525,-0.000692,0.062584,0.09294,-0.006496,0.008542,-0.038354,-0.015138,-0.008007,-0.003315,0.013299,0.003927,-0.002388,-0.005878,0.00836,0.015209,-0.005053,-0.033619,-0.003473
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL001,0.132035,0.167562,0.048271,-0.044574,0.081861,-0.030957,-0.00658,0.001615,0.066879,0.106244,0.003897,0.0205 32,-0.038652,-0.009083,-0.012079,0.00411,0.001695,0.004941,0.006913,-0.008254,0.011854,0.003339,-0.013557,-0.030607,0.008981
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL002,0.122929,0.170609,0.059585,-0.043282,0.079399,-0.021475,0.001175,0.003231,0.065243,0.093669,0.004 709,0.012589,-0.035381,-0.021469,0.003257,-0.011535,-0.011604,0.006334,0.001131,-0.011506,0.009858,0.002473,-0.014173,-0.037716,0.005149
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL003,0.12862,0.175687,0.056191,-0.056525,0.073552,-0.024542,-0.001645,0.001385,0.068515,0.095309,0,0.015286,-0.039544,-0.015414,-0.002986,-0.011403,-0.005476,0.003927,0.003645,-0.008504,0.009483,-0.005317,-0.008134,-0.041211,-0.011735
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL004,0.120652,0.165531,0.05506,-0.033915,0.089555,-0.029841,0.00141,0.001846,0.063811,0.092758,-0.004709,0.019932,-0.037462,-0.015414,-0.004072,-0.003713,0.004172,0.00266,-0.003645,0.000125,0.010357,0.002968,-0.015776,-0.040247,-0.005269
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL006,0.12862,0.177718,0.048271,-0.033592,0.091402,-0.0251,-0.006815,0.001615,0.058085,0.096403,0.002273,0.014 837,-0.025124,-0.028763,-0.009772,0.009149,0.017211,-0.0019,0.004902,0.001,0.014474,0.008161,-0.021322,-0.045187,-0.001676
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL008,0.12862,0.174671,0.057699,-0.031008,0.096018,-0.017849,-0.013161,-0.003,0.07322,0.094763,0.007632,0.018883,-0.022745,-0.017891,-0.0038,-0.004375,0.006389,0.003294,0.003142,-5e-04,0.007237,0.001237,-0.01861,-0.042054,0.00455
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL009,0.12862,0.1635,0.046009,-0.038114,0.082169,-0.015618,-0.00799,-0.002769,0.067084,0.096585,-0.00341,0.017085,-0.034192,-0.016515,-0.007736,0.010077,0.025686,0.006588,-0.005154,-0.002376,0.012228,-0.001978,-0.017624,-0.03374,0.001676
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL010,0.121791,0.1635,0.038843,-0.044897,0.081861,-0.028726,-0.002115,0.005307,0.070356,0.086927,-0.007632,0.011989,-0.03107,-0.006881,-0.007057,-0.003182,0.013038,0.00114,0.005531,0.002001,0.0108 56,0.007543,-0.01898,-0.037475,0.003113
SE_Iberia_CA:CLL011,0.12862,0.166547,0.043746,-0.036499,0.089555,-0.02761,-0.00987,-0.006692,0.059925,0.097132,-0.004547,0.013038,-0.027205,-0.018304,-0.013572,0.001458,0.00352,0.000253,0.004022,-0.013381,0.01672,-0.004451,-0.010969,-0.033619,0.003592
SW_Iberia_CA:MON013,0.125205,0.162485,0.048271,-0.027778,0.081246,-0.018128,-0.005875,-0.004615,0.065857,0.087656,-0.002273,0.019633,-0.02557,-0.018992,-0.016015,-0.004641,0.007562,0.008488,0.002137,-0.01013,0.012353,0.001731,-0.018364,-0.037957,0.002754
SW_Iberia_CA:MON014,0.124067,0.158423,0.049026,-0.045866,0.082785,-0.026495,0.000235,0.007154,0.065243,0.0913,-0.003897,0.01109,-0.029732,-0.012386,-0.011808,-0.000663,0.011213,-0.006334,-0.00264,-0.000875,0.011105,0.003339,-0.016515,-0.034583,0.008263
SW_Iberia_CA:MON016,0.121791,0.168578,0.053174,-0.040375,0.084323,-0.03514,-0.00752,0.003461,0.063402,0.08802,-0.005196,0.009891,-0.033597,-0.026699,-0.011265,-0.00305,0.016428,0.0019,-0.004148,-0.006628,0.006738,-0.009892,-0.017624,-0.034222,-0.00479
SW_Iberia_CA:MON017,0.112685,0.171624,0.040729,-0.04199,0.081246,-0.017291,0.000705,0.006,0.060539,0.086015,0.002436 ,0.01079,-0.039692,-0.003165,-0.006922,-0.001989,0.007693,-0.004561,0.000503,0.000125,0.013102,0.002597,-0.018734,-0.028558,-0.005628
SW_Iberia_CA:MON019,0.1161,0.155376,0.047517,-0.033915,0.086785,-0.011156,-0.00329,0.004154,0.045404,0.090754,-0.000162,0.010491,-0.032408,-0.010597,-0.002579,0.009944,0.026338,0.008742,-0.007165,-0.003502,0.013851,-0.006059,-0.015899,-0.037596,0.004311
SW_Iberia_CA:MON020,0.1161,0.164516,0.057322,-0.02907,0.079707,-0.015897,-0.007285,0.005307,0.071174,0.086744,-0.003085,0.030573,-0.04326,-0.019542,0.002986,0.003713,-0.009909,-0.002787,0.008422,0.003126,0.011854,0.01051,-0.016515,-0.029763,0.007903
SW_Iberia_CA:MON021,0.120652,0.160454,0.05506,-0.026486,0.08894,-0.027889,0.000235,-0.001385,0.053585,0.091118,-0.004222,0.020831,-0.034787,-0.009909,-0.008279,-0.01485,-0.014733,0.001394,0.001634,-0.008004,0.010357,0.007172,-0.003821,-0.049405,0.002994
SW_Iberia_CA:MON033,0.118376,0.162485,0.056568,-0.0323,0.08617,-0.021475,-0.012456,-0.002308,0.069129,0.091847,-0.010555,0.017385,-0.025421,-0.004404,-0.012215,-0.010475,0.004433,0.004434,-0.00264,-0.011881,0.006239,0.00371,-0.019473,-0.044464,0.004071
Zapateria_Argar_o:ZAP002,0.091058,0.136081,0.02526 7,-0.023579,0.038161,-0.014223,-0.01034,0.008077,0.031292,0.02934,0,0.002248,0,-0.018854,-0.001221,0.015513,0.020079,-0.008868,-0.005656,0.003877,0.004118,-0.012984,-0.005423,-0.000723,0.001557

Averages made by Ajeje Brazorf also from AG:


Argar_Almoloya_Early,0.1237923,0.1562165,0.0548255 ,-0.0103137,0.0712706,-0.0125693,-0.001094,0.0018461,0.0477597,0.0661202,-0.0022174,0.0139944,-0.0256824,-0.0159073,0.0015163,0.0020026,0.0025088,0.0020794, 0.0012612,-0.0016473,0.0101416,0.0018164,-0.0108883,-0.026223,0.0010942
Argar_Almoloya_Late,0.1223934,0.1548982,0.0551928,-0.012559,0.0727013,-0.0124354,-0.0018109,0.0028098,0.0497475,0.0666556,-0.0030282,0.0138847,-0.0246252,-0.0165066,0.0006547,0.0062628,0.0052538,0.0011999,-0.0002811,-0.0018171,0.0104226,0.0037242,-0.0096351,-0.0218102,0.0029231
Argar_Bastida,0.1211403,0.1526196,0.0501031,-0.0095054,0.0701667,-0.0092431,-0.00188,0.003857,0.0488519,0.0658133,-0.0074236,0.0127173,-0.0256973,-0.0181859,0.0028889,0.0065726,0.0062211,0.0032396, 0.0007901,0,0.0106419,0.0035329,-0.0130996,-0.0277319,0.0020186
Argar_MolinosPapel,0.12862,0.150298,0.059585,-0.004845,0.070475,-0.008088,0.00047,-0.001615,0.041109,0.067974,-0.004709,0.015286,-0.021407,-0.005367,-0.000136,0.003315,0.007693,0.001647,-0.007039,0.001501,0.000749,0.004081,-0.003944,-0.0241,0.001557
Menorca_Aritgues_LBA,0.12862,0.147252,0.0535515,0. 008721,0.0598575,0.0006975,0.0012925,-0.0028845,0.035587,0.047837,-0.008769,0.01094,-0.0156835,-0.018648,0.012215,0.0100105,0.0110175,0.0001265,-0.0030165,-0.0014385,0.0035565,-0.002844,-0.0085655,-0.0090975,0.002754
SE_CabezoRedondo_BA,0.121791,0.159438,0.056191,-0.011305,0.065243,-0.006136,-0.00282,0.009692,0.039269,0.060867,-0.000487,0.010641,-0.025421,-0.018579,0.004207,0.006895,0.004824,-0.004941,-0.005028,0.002126,0.011605,0.00272,-0.010969,-0.027233,-0.000479
SE_Iberia_BA_Argar,0.124067,0.151314,0.056191,-0.005814,0.072013,-0.011435,0.00188,0.005769,0.056244,0.063965,-0.01088,0.012889,-0.019326,-0.010735,0.002443,0.003447,-0.002738,0.004434,-0.008422,-5e-04,0.016596,0.002102,-0.009244,-0.023497,0.004191
SE_Iberia_BA_LaHorna,0.122929,0.1530063,0.0549337, 0.0011843,0.067192,-0.007995,-0.008852,0.0042307,0.0424047,0.0633577,-0.0004873,0.0127383,-0.019871,-0.015001,0.0014477,0.0114467,0.007562,-0.0002953,0.001676,0.0025013,0.0080277,0.0002883,-0.0106403,-0.0245417,0.0024347
SE_Iberia_BA_Villena,0.1265712,0.1580164,0.0605656 ,-0.0044574,0.0702284,-0.0102632,9.4e-05,0.0053536,0.046795,0.0635638,-0.0023058,0.0107606,-0.0234884,-0.016047,0.0014928,-0.0025724,-0.0028424,0.0012414,-0.0027654,-0.0056526,0.010157,0.002943,-0.012867,-0.0321732,0.0021316
SE_Iberia_CA,0.1249375,0.1691753,0.0503345,-0.040508,0.0853189,-0.0253298,-0.0047001,0.0001494,0.0653514,0.0961885,-0.0009172,0.0153304,-0.0328015,-0.0164985,-0.0076004,0.0004524,0.0089275,0.0028392,0.0013825,-0.0028396,0.0096814,0.0016804,-0.0145431,-0.0366884,0.0003098
SW_Iberia_CA,0.119372,0.1629926,0.0509584,-0.0347225,0.0839002,-0.0216839,-0.0044064,0.002221,0.0617916,0.0891818,-0.0033692,0.0163355,-0.0330584,-0.0132118,-0.0082621,-0.0027514,0.0061281,0.0014095,-0.0004871,-0.0047211,0.0106999,0.0016385,-0.0158681,-0.0370685,0.0024848
Zapateria_Argar_o,0.091058,0.136081,0.025267,-0.023579,0.038161,-0.014223,-0.01034,0.008077,0.031292,0.02934,0,0.002248,0,-0.018854,-0.001221,0.015513,0.020079,-0.008868,-0.005656,0.003877,0.004118,-0.012984,-0.005423,-0.000723,0.001557

mitalit
03-07-2022, 08:34 PM
Lo que me dio el k36:
Distance to: ivan
9.32018777 Spain_Catalan
9.48439244 Spain_Andalusia
9.50198400 France_South
9.58584373 Portugal
9.70251514 Spain_Galicia
9.73206556 Spain_average
10.41074925 Spain_Canarians
10.73643330 Azores
10.75523129 Spain_Valencia
11.21807916 Spain_Baleares
11.50239975 Spain_Aragon
14.47285044 Spain_Cantabria
15.49030342 Italy_Aosta
15.85394903 France_Central
16.10088196 Italy_North
16.39472476 France
16.88292036 Swiss_Italian
17.32559378 Mexican_White
18.44540051 Puertorican
18.69532294 Italy_Veneto
18.81856530 Italy_Friuli
18.84812192 FR_Corsica
19.27104045 Italy_Tuscany
20.49601913 Italy_Marche
20.69072014 Spain_North
20.84245907 Italy_Lazio
20.91215914 Swiss_German
22.15158911 France_NorthWest
22.33088668 France_NorthEast
22.67009484 Argentinian
22.82826099 France_SW
23.31718251 Austria_Tyrol
23.33757700 Venezuelan
23.91441197 FR_Bretagne
24.13785823 German_South
24.26615132 FR_Finistère
24.36675604 Kosovo
24.36957529 Albania_Montenegro
24.39209708 Greek_Euboea
24.75769375 Albania_North
24.85972647 Germany_West
24.94797186 Belgium
25.20243242 Chile_Castizo
25.76242225 Montenegrian
25.91267258 Albania_South
26.01672347 Austria
26.02330302 Sicily_Trapani
26.10646280 Greek_Peloponnese
26.13686668 Bosnian
26.14541642 Greek_Central
26.32161849 Greek_Macedonia
26.41037675 Romania_NW
26.41785949 Albania_FYROM
26.42471381 Sicily_Palermo
26.44822300 Romania_SE
26.44974858 Dalmatian_Serbian
26.52799088 Macedonia_FYROM
26.61612857 Malta
26.73257563 Colombia
26.80500140 Sicily_Agrigento

mi mezcla conocida es españoles del norte, italianos del norte, vascos franceses, y britanicos

Como es eso? Tienes un abuelo italiano, un tatarabuelo frances y un bisabuelo ingles?

Defcon2
03-07-2022, 09:14 PM
Ahora que caigo, Yfull fue fundado por rusos y reside actualmente en Rusia no?

Sí, ojito:

https://i.imgur.com/3vFpzLl.jpg

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 06:24 AM
exactamente, tengo una bisbaulea genovesa y un tatarabuelo britanico, y bisbauelos franceses del sur (vascos)

gixajo
03-08-2022, 10:20 AM
exactamente, tengo una bisbaulea genovesa y un tatarabuelo britanico, y bisbauelos franceses del sur (vascos)

A ver como te funciona este calculador para coordenadas del Eurogenes K13:


Iberian:Spanish_Andalusia,39.07,8.19,29.07,3.83,14 .11,1.95,0.60,0.29,0.63,0.02,0.40,1.28,0.57
Iberian:Spanish_Aragon,43.83,8.27,29.79,1.32,12.05 ,2.37,0.40,0.25,0.50,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.04
Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria,41.79,11.49,29.27,1.75,1 0.20,2.37,0.45,0.03,0.13,0.49,0.47,0.80,0.75
Iberian:Spanish_Castile-León,40.76,11.13,26.09,1.86,12.82,3.49,0.04,0.51,0 .05,0.28,0.18,2.01,0.78
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha,41.09,9.37,28.52,2.72,12.42,2.88,0.47,0. 22,0.21,0.31,0.08,1.42,0.29
Iberian:Spanish_Catalonia,41.36,12.13,25.78,3.08,1 3.09,1.51,0.69,0.59,0.06,0.06,0.43,0.45,0.77
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,38.27,9.67,26.84,3.32, 13.73,4.26,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.62,0.20,1.23,1.22
Iberian:Spanish_Galicia,38.51,12.18,26.23,1.97,11. 93,4.55,1.49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Iberian:Spanish_Murcia,40.15,9.33,26.12,2.21,14.57 ,2.92,0.21,0.88,0.67,0.60,0.11,1.44,0.78
Iberian:Spanish_Valencia,40.54,10.58,27.72,1.90,14 .85,1.32,0.88,0.29,0.04,0.41,0.50,0.31,0.65
Iberian:Portuguese,38.54,11.51,25.32,2.43,13.90,3. 63,0.42,0.14,0.25,0.44,0.67,1.72,1.04
SW_French:French_Aquitaine,48.66,8.17,33.52,0.65,5 .51,1.30,0.57,0.37,0.25,0.42,0.29,0.14,0.14
SW_French:French_South,41.77,14.33,26.39,2.70,10.7 9,1.43,0.55,0.18,0.26,0.58,0.53,0.33,0.17
SW_French:Southwest_French,42.35,13.57,30.54,1.36, 8.85,1.65,0.33,0.05,0.62,0.64,0.01,0.02,0.00
British_Isles:English_East,48.53,23.36,13.76,5.38, 5.07,0.89,1.01,0.28,0.38,0.57,0.27,0.29,0.14
British_Isles:English_East-Midlands,48.92,23.92,13.95,5.59,4.13,0.84,0.96,0.1 5,0.16,0.48,0.41,0.21,0.21
British_Isles:English_Lancashire,50.81,23.71,13.22 ,5.15,3.56,0.74,0.93,0.12,0.19,0.71,0.39,0.23,0.18
British_Isles:English_Northeast,49.73,24.59,13.25, 5.66,3.38,0.79,0.91,0.04,0.36,0.62,0.31,0.18,0.11
British_Isles:English_Southeast,49.11,23.47,13.58, 5.85,4.28,0.73,1.18,0.14,0.24,0.56,0.44,0.20,0.15
British_Isles:English_West-Country,50.02,22.87,14.46,5.56,3.33,0.74,1.19,0.15 ,0.30,0.53,0.44,0.20,0.16
British_Isles:English_West-Midlands,49.72,23.48,13.55,5.63,4.13,0.51,1.11,0.1 8,0.29,0.50,0.39,0.26,0.17
British_Isles:English_Yorkshire,50.99,23.67,12.98, 5.70,2.90,0.73,1.10,0.11,0.22,0.69,0.52,0.14,0.20
British_Isles:Irish_Connacht,52.60,23.36,12.14,6.8 9,1.22,0.34,1.65,0.08,0.25,0.85,0.21,0.18,0.13
British_Isles:Irish_Leinster,51.74,22.93,13.11,6.5 8,2.04,0.63,1.08,0.25,0.12,0.79,0.36,0.16,0.15
British_Isles:Irish_Munster,53.00,23.03,12.32,6.73 ,1.37,0.36,1.35,0.16,0.24,0.80,0.29,0.14,0.15
British_Isles:Irish_Ulster,53.12,22.51,12.51,6.99, 0.89,0.57,1.54,0.10,0.48,0.72,0.28,0.08,0.14
Italian:Italian_Abruzzo,20.82,8.67,21.33,13.7,29.2 1,4.61,0.18,0.28,0.28,0.22,0.33,0.33,0.04
Italian:Italian_Aosta_Valley,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.5 6,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21
Italian:Italian_Apulia,19.01,8.44,22.08,14.71,29.4 9,4.61,0.12,0.02,0.1,0.4,0.55,0.37,0.1
Italian:Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55, 28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33
Italian:Italian_Calabria,15.99,5.68,21.38,15.48,33 .13,6.25,0.3,0.46,0,0.06,0.3,0.64,0.33
Italian:Italian_Campania,18.53,7.21,21.05,15.4,30. 94,4.84,0.63,0.33,0.1,0.14,0.12,0.52,0.19
Italian:Italian_Emilia,29.66,11.98,24.47,8.33,21.3 2,2.94,0.27,0.23,0,0.3,0.3,0.16,0.04
Italian:Italian_Friuli,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.5 3,2.99,0.31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01
Italian:Italian_Lazio,25.25,9.35,24.03,11.35,25.14 ,3.6,0.33,0.2,0.12,0.25,0.18,0.14,0.06
Italian:Italian_Liguria,30.65,11.88,24.59,7.61,21. 06,2.75,0.38,0.33,0.07,0.28,0.28,0.08,0.04
Italian:Italian_Lombardy,32.35,12.62,26.19,5.59,20 .25,2.1,0.32,0.13,0.06,0.02,0.16,0.1,0.11
Italian:Italian_Marche,25.48,9.49,23.15,11.52,25.5 3,3.8,0.14,0.14,0.12,0.15,0.12,0.18,0.18
Italian:Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.6 2,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16
Italian:Italian_Piedmont,32.91,14.19,24.66,6.01,17 .91,2.93,0.08,0.1,0.18,0.34,0.46,0.02,0.21
Italian:Italian_Romagna,26.31,11.19,23.14,10.18,24 .32,3.81,0.08,0.35,0.07,0.27,0.14,0.14,0
Italian:Italian_Sicily,18.24,7.44,21.81,13.91,29.5 9,5.61,0.59,0.33,0.21,0.14,0.42,0.95,0.77
Italian:Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17 .18,1.61,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03
Italian:Italian_Tuscany,27.72,10.94,24.25,8.89,23. 27,3.79,0.22,0.14,0.15,0.08,0.38,0.14,0.05
Italian:Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.5 8,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0
Italian:Italian_Veneto,32.25,15.08,23.66,7.48,18.3 8,1.65,0.25,0.4,0.24,0.27,0.3,0,0.04

gixajo
03-08-2022, 10:21 AM
Iberian:Spanish_Andalusia,39.07,8.19,29.07,3.83,14 .11,1.95,0.60,0.29,0.63,0.02,0.40,1.28,0.57
Iberian:Spanish_Aragon,43.83,8.27,29.79,1.32,12.05 ,2.37,0.40,0.25,0.50,0.32,0.39,0.46,0.04
Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria,41.79,11.49,29.27,1.75,1 0.20,2.37,0.45,0.03,0.13,0.49,0.47,0.80,0.75
Iberian:Spanish_Castile-León,40.76,11.13,26.09,1.86,12.82,3.49,0.04,0.51,0 .05,0.28,0.18,2.01,0.78
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha,41.09,9.37,28.52,2.72,12.42,2.88,0.47,0. 22,0.21,0.31,0.08,1.42,0.29
Iberian:Spanish_Catalonia,41.36,12.13,25.78,3.08,1 3.09,1.51,0.69,0.59,0.06,0.06,0.43,0.45,0.77
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,38.27,9.67,26.84,3.32, 13.73,4.26,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.62,0.20,1.23,1.22
Iberian:Spanish_Galicia,38.51,12.18,26.23,1.97,11. 93,4.55,1.49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Iberian:Spanish_Murcia,40.15,9.33,26.12,2.21,14.57 ,2.92,0.21,0.88,0.67,0.60,0.11,1.44,0.78
Iberian:Spanish_Valencia,40.54,10.58,27.72,1.90,14 .85,1.32,0.88,0.29,0.04,0.41,0.50,0.31,0.65
Iberian:Portuguese,38.54,11.51,25.32,2.43,13.90,3. 63,0.42,0.14,0.25,0.44,0.67,1.72,1.04
SW_French:French_Aquitaine,48.66,8.17,33.52,0.65,5 .51,1.30,0.57,0.37,0.25,0.42,0.29,0.14,0.14
SW_French:Southwest_French,42.35,13.57,30.54,1.36, 8.85,1.65,0.33,0.05,0.62,0.64,0.01,0.02,0.00
SW_French:French_South,41.77,14.33,26.39,2.70,10.7 9,1.43,0.55,0.18,0.26,0.58,0.53,0.33,0.17
British_Isles:English_East,48.53,23.36,13.76,5.38, 5.07,0.89,1.01,0.28,0.38,0.57,0.27,0.29,0.14
British_Isles:English_East-Midlands,48.92,23.92,13.95,5.59,4.13,0.84,0.96,0.1 5,0.16,0.48,0.41,0.21,0.21
British_Isles:English_Lancashire,50.81,23.71,13.22 ,5.15,3.56,0.74,0.93,0.12,0.19,0.71,0.39,0.23,0.18
British_Isles:English_Northeast,49.73,24.59,13.25, 5.66,3.38,0.79,0.91,0.04,0.36,0.62,0.31,0.18,0.11
British_Isles:English_Southeast,49.11,23.47,13.58, 5.85,4.28,0.73,1.18,0.14,0.24,0.56,0.44,0.20,0.15
British_Isles:English_West-Country,50.02,22.87,14.46,5.56,3.33,0.74,1.19,0.15 ,0.30,0.53,0.44,0.20,0.16
British_Isles:English_West-Midlands,49.72,23.48,13.55,5.63,4.13,0.51,1.11,0.1 8,0.29,0.50,0.39,0.26,0.17
British_Isles:English_Yorkshire,50.99,23.67,12.98, 5.70,2.90,0.73,1.10,0.11,0.22,0.69,0.52,0.14,0.20
British_Isles:Irish_Connacht,52.60,23.36,12.14,6.8 9,1.22,0.34,1.65,0.08,0.25,0.85,0.21,0.18,0.13
British_Isles:Irish_Leinster,51.74,22.93,13.11,6.5 8,2.04,0.63,1.08,0.25,0.12,0.79,0.36,0.16,0.15
British_Isles:Irish_Munster,53.00,23.03,12.32,6.73 ,1.37,0.36,1.35,0.16,0.24,0.80,0.29,0.14,0.15
British_Isles:Irish_Ulster,53.12,22.51,12.51,6.99, 0.89,0.57,1.54,0.10,0.48,0.72,0.28,0.08,0.14
Italian:Italian_Abruzzo,20.82,8.67,21.33,13.7,29.2 1,4.61,0.18,0.28,0.28,0.22,0.33,0.33,0.04
Italian:Italian_Aosta_Valley,39.39,15.81,22.37,7.5 6,12.42,1.2,0.46,0.01,0,0.01,0.12,0.44,0.21
Italian:Italian_Apulia,19.01,8.44,22.08,14.71,29.4 9,4.61,0.12,0.02,0.1,0.4,0.55,0.37,0.1
Italian:Italian_Basilicata,20.54,8.01,20.72,14.55, 28.73,5.5,0.37,0.08,0.09,0.03,0.46,0.59,0.33
Italian:Italian_Calabria,15.99,5.68,21.38,15.48,33 .13,6.25,0.3,0.46,0,0.06,0.3,0.64,0.33
Italian:Italian_Campania,18.53,7.21,21.05,15.4,30. 94,4.84,0.63,0.33,0.1,0.14,0.12,0.52,0.19
Italian:Italian_Emilia,29.66,11.98,24.47,8.33,21.3 2,2.94,0.27,0.23,0,0.3,0.3,0.16,0.04
Italian:Italian_Friuli,32.26,16.88,20.62,7.19,18.5 3,2.99,0.31,0.3,0.05,0.8,0.02,0.04,0.01
Italian:Italian_Lazio,25.25,9.35,24.03,11.35,25.14 ,3.6,0.33,0.2,0.12,0.25,0.18,0.14,0.06
Italian:Italian_Liguria,30.65,11.88,24.59,7.61,21. 06,2.75,0.38,0.33,0.07,0.28,0.28,0.08,0.04
Italian:Italian_Lombardy,32.35,12.62,26.19,5.59,20 .25,2.1,0.32,0.13,0.06,0.02,0.16,0.1,0.11
Italian:Italian_Marche,25.48,9.49,23.15,11.52,25.5 3,3.8,0.14,0.14,0.12,0.15,0.12,0.18,0.18
Italian:Italian_Molise,20.11,8.57,21.61,14.07,29.6 2,4.58,0.02,0.47,0,0.38,0.25,0.16,0.16
Italian:Italian_Piedmont,32.91,14.19,24.66,6.01,17 .91,2.93,0.08,0.1,0.18,0.34,0.46,0.02,0.21
Italian:Italian_Romagna,26.31,11.19,23.14,10.18,24 .32,3.81,0.08,0.35,0.07,0.27,0.14,0.14,0
Italian:Italian_Sicily,18.24,7.44,21.81,13.91,29.5 9,5.61,0.59,0.33,0.21,0.14,0.42,0.95,0.77
Italian:Italian_Trentino,33.67,17.74,23.27,5.53,17 .18,1.61,0,0.16,0.12,0.22,0.31,0.16,0.03
Italian:Italian_Tuscany,27.72,10.94,24.25,8.89,23. 27,3.79,0.22,0.14,0.15,0.08,0.38,0.14,0.05
Italian:Italian_Umbria,26.21,9.45,23.31,11.11,24.5 8,3.76,0.28,0.17,0,0.16,0.84,0.13,0
Italian:Italian_Veneto,32.25,15.08,23.66,7.48,18.3 8,1.65,0.25,0.4,0.24,0.27,0.3,0,0.04[/code]

Target: gixajo
Distance: 376.4398% / 3.76439800
50.4 SW_French
49.6 Iberian

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 451.9982% / 4.51998223
48.0 Iberian
42.8 SW_French
9.2 Italian

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 198.1982% / 1.98198167
70.4 SW_French
24.2 Iberian
5.4 British_Isles

Edit:Añadí el SW_French del original spreadsheet.

mitalit
03-08-2022, 02:21 PM
exactamente, tengo una bisbaulea genovesa y un tatarabuelo britanico, y bisbauelos franceses del sur (vascos)

Con bisabuelos franceses supongo que son 2, entonces eres prácticamente solamente un 50% español?

gixajo
03-08-2022, 02:49 PM
Con bisabuelos franceses supongo que son 2, entonces eres prácticamente solamente un 50% español?

Bueno, si son del suroeste, sus coordenadas funcionarán como si fueran practicamente españoles.

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 04:52 PM
siento no haber contestado antes,si eran del sur de francia de la zona vasca asi que eran similar a los ibericos

el k13 personalizado:

Target: ivan
Distance: 2.7106% / 2.71057012
67.3 Iberian
32.7 Italian


Distance to: ivan
4.14553977 Iberian:Portuguese
4.76748361 Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura
5.14837839 Iberian:Spanish_Galicia
5.26850074 Iberian:Spanish_Valencia
5.44171848 Iberian:Spanish_Murcia
6.05506400 Iberian:Spanish_Castile-León
6.38201379 Iberian:Spanish_Andalusia
6.72467100 Iberian:Spanish_Catalonia
7.08039547 Iberian:Spanish_Castilla-La_Mancha
7.50666371 Italian:Italian_Piedmont
7.82453833 Italian:Italian_Lombardy
8.56264562 SW_French:French_South
8.59171112 Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria
9.22979956 Italian:Italian_Trentino
9.62051974 Italian:Italian_Veneto
9.89025278 Iberian:Spanish_Aragon
10.45283694 Italian:Italian_Aosta_Valley
10.52323144 Italian:Italian_Liguria
10.62386465 SW_French:Southwest_French
11.46854830 Italian:Italian_Friuli
11.67123815 Italian:Italian_Emilia
14.17928771 Italian:Italian_Tuscany
16.52440619 Italian:Italian_Romagna
17.32662114 Italian:Italian_Umbria
18.11142457 SW_French:French_Aquitaine

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 04:53 PM
teneis algun otro para detectar ascendencia norte europea me interesaria bastante

mitalit
03-08-2022, 05:51 PM
teneis algun otro para detectar ascendencia norte europea me interesaria bastante

Pues tienes realmente poca, estos son mis resultados (soy un 0% frances y un 0% ingles)

Target:ard2.0
Distance: 162.5044% / 1.62504365
63.8 Iberian
26.2 British_Isles
10.0 Italian

gixajo
03-08-2022, 06:14 PM
teneis algun otro para detectar ascendencia norte europea me interesaria bastante

Este sería un calculador similar, pero para coordenadas de Eurogenes K15:


SW_French:Southwest_French,18.23,33.82,8.51,5.22,2 3.54,1.68,6.12,1.97,0.21,0.04,0.21,0.38,0.02,0.05, 0.00
SW_French:French_Southwest,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,2 4.29,0.77,4.44,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17, 0.13
SW_French:French_South,23.44,30.07,6.86,5.00,20.86 ,2.32,7.92,1.58,0.42,0.08,0.14,0.41,0.38,0.36,0.15
Iberian:Spanish_Andalucia,15.69,31.45,5.58,2.99,23 .21,3.99,11.30,2.49,0.48,0.18,0.46,0.04,0.31,1.32, 0.52
Iberian:Spanish_Aragon,18.12,35.04,5.17,2.95,23.35 ,2.00,8.96,2.85,0.27,0.15,0.16,0.22,0.21,0.47,0.08
Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria,19.95,32.02,5.93,4.22,23 .95,2.17,6.59,2.68,0.31,0.04,0.07,0.26,0.30,0.91,0 .61
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,17.84,33.09,4.7 2,3.46,22.53,3.48,9.32,3.19,0.30,0.11,0.08,0.13,0. 06,1.40,0.28
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,20.52,29.84,7.19,2 .38,20.82,2.77,9.35,3.61,0.16,0.24,0.07,0.16,0.13, 1.92,0.84
Iberian:Spanish_Cataluna,21.75,29.63,6.92,4.00,20. 70,3.10,9.73,1.88,0.48,0.36,0.06,0.03,0.29,0.56,0. 50
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,19.86,28.49,4.72,3.60, 21.52,3.09,10.75,4.67,0.39,0.01,0.01,0.36,0.10,1.4 8,0.95
Iberian:Spanish_Galicia,23.22,24.88,6.54,3.91,21.7 8,2.42,8.93,4.48,0.88,0.19,0.13,0.12,0.03,1.52,0.9 6
Iberian:Spanish_Murcia,19.87,29.93,4.85,3.06,20.83 ,2.52,11.69,3.13,0.27,0.61,0.39,0.50,0.12,1.57,0.6 7
Iberian:Spanish_Valencia,17.55,32.77,6.17,3.66,21. 94,2.78,10.99,1.90,0.63,0.12,0.04,0.21,0.33,0.45,0 .45
Iberian:Portuguese,21.61,26.61,5.71,3.71,21.63,2.6 5,10.21,3.55,0.45,0.13,0.15,0.28,0.41,2.06,0.85
Italian:Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17 .71,6.75,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0 .16
Italian:Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32 ,6.70,12.69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.0 3
Italian:Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.4 6,5.83,13.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0. 00
Italian:Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39, 15.65,26.38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.0 7
Italian:Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14 .90,27.24,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
Italian:Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48, 15.12,31.66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.0 7
Italian:Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31, 14.96,29.68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.0 8
Italian:Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31, 17.60,14.12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1. 84,0.36
Italian:Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18. 07,15.44,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20, 0.48
Italian:Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18. 12,13.93,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98, 0.85
Italian:Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17, 20.08,8.91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.1 5,0.02
Italian:Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50, 7.38,14.76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
Italian:Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9. 92,23.83,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
Italian:Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21, 7.98,17.82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
Italian:Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71 ,6.38,16.91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.0 0
Italian:Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,1 1.73,22.54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
Italian:Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41, 9.07,19.20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
Italian:Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7 .15,14.69,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
British_Isles:English,36.01,28.18,10.15,8.76,9.51, 3.69,1.38,0.49,0.73,0.06,0.10,0.32,0.24,0.16,0.11
British_Isles:English_Midlands,36.12,27.75,10.07,8 .86,9.57,3.79,1.45,0.49,0.71,0.05,0.08,0.28,0.23,0 .20,0.13
British_Isles:English_North,36.51,28.48,10.29,8.89 ,9.09,3.58,1.00,0.42,0.64,0.04,0.10,0.33,0.24,0.17 ,0.11
British_Isles:English_Southeast,35.29,27.87,10.31, 8.60,9.69,3.98,1.82,0.54,0.77,0.08,0.12,0.34,0.25, 0.16,0.09
British_Isles:English_Southwest,36.09,28.52,9.72,8 .69,10.25,3.20,1.19,0.45,0.80,0.06,0.06,0.38,0.27, 0.12,0.11
British_Isles:Irish,36.92,30.40,9.48,8.82,7.71,4.2 1,0.16,0.27,0.96,0.09,0.09,0.52,0.15,0.08,0.08
British_Isles:Irish_Connacht,37.57,30.18,9.18,9.34 ,7.35,3.93,0.14,0.11,1.09,0.03,0.10,0.62,0.11,0.10 ,0.08
British_Isles:Irish_Leinster,36.39,30.24,9.49,8.94 ,8.08,4.34,0.30,0.40,0.75,0.16,0.00,0.44,0.18,0.11 ,0.10
British_Isles:Irish_Munster,37.02,30.48,9.63,8.51, 7.64,4.38,0.16,0.18,0.90,0.05,0.14,0.50,0.16,0.07, 0.10
British_Isles:Irish_Ulster,36.93,30.83,9.29,8.56,7 .61,4.34,0.04,0.29,1.07,0.05,0.17,0.54,0.13,0.04,0 .04

gixajo
03-08-2022, 06:16 PM
Este sería un calculador similar, pero para coordenadas de Eurogenes K15:


SW_French:Southwest_French,18.23,33.82,8.51,5.22,2 3.54,1.68,6.12,1.97,0.21,0.04,0.21,0.38,0.02,0.05, 0.00
SW_French:French_Southwest,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,2 4.29,0.77,4.44,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17, 0.13
SW_French:French_South,23.44,30.07,6.86,5.00,20.86 ,2.32,7.92,1.58,0.42,0.08,0.14,0.41,0.38,0.36,0.15
Iberian:Spanish_Andalucia,15.69,31.45,5.58,2.99,23 .21,3.99,11.30,2.49,0.48,0.18,0.46,0.04,0.31,1.32, 0.52
Iberian:Spanish_Aragon,18.12,35.04,5.17,2.95,23.35 ,2.00,8.96,2.85,0.27,0.15,0.16,0.22,0.21,0.47,0.08
Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria,19.95,32.02,5.93,4.22,23 .95,2.17,6.59,2.68,0.31,0.04,0.07,0.26,0.30,0.91,0 .61
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha,17.84,33.09,4.7 2,3.46,22.53,3.48,9.32,3.19,0.30,0.11,0.08,0.13,0. 06,1.40,0.28
Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,20.52,29.84,7.19,2 .38,20.82,2.77,9.35,3.61,0.16,0.24,0.07,0.16,0.13, 1.92,0.84
Iberian:Spanish_Cataluna,21.75,29.63,6.92,4.00,20. 70,3.10,9.73,1.88,0.48,0.36,0.06,0.03,0.29,0.56,0. 50
Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura,19.86,28.49,4.72,3.60, 21.52,3.09,10.75,4.67,0.39,0.01,0.01,0.36,0.10,1.4 8,0.95
Iberian:Spanish_Galicia,23.22,24.88,6.54,3.91,21.7 8,2.42,8.93,4.48,0.88,0.19,0.13,0.12,0.03,1.52,0.9 6
Iberian:Spanish_Murcia,19.87,29.93,4.85,3.06,20.83 ,2.52,11.69,3.13,0.27,0.61,0.39,0.50,0.12,1.57,0.6 7
Iberian:Spanish_Valencia,17.55,32.77,6.17,3.66,21. 94,2.78,10.99,1.90,0.63,0.12,0.04,0.21,0.33,0.45,0 .45
Iberian:Portuguese,21.61,26.61,5.71,3.71,21.63,2.6 5,10.21,3.55,0.45,0.13,0.15,0.28,0.41,2.06,0.85
Italian:Italy_Aostavalley,26.62,25.03,7.48,4.39,17 .71,6.75,9.38,1.80,0.00,0.02,0.17,0.19,0.14,0.15,0 .16
Italian:Italy_Piedmont,21.38,25.13,7.86,4.01,19.32 ,6.70,12.69,2.19,0.11,0.01,0.06,0.12,0.24,0.13,0.0 3
Italian:Italy_Trentino,21.92,21.72,11.28,5.55,18.4 6,5.83,13.09,1.32,0.00,0.03,0.11,0.16,0.47,0.06,0. 00
Italian:Italy_Abruzzo,11.25,15.03,6.36,2.91,16.39, 15.65,26.38,5.48,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.17,0.0 7
Italian:Italy_Apulia,9.50,14.93,6.66,2.94,17.44,14 .90,27.24,4.99,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.18,0.58,0.55,0.01
Italian:Italy_Calabria,8.07,12.92,4.55,1.98,17.48, 15.12,31.66,6.46,0.13,0.11,0.04,0.09,0.36,0.97,0.0 7
Italian:Italy_Campania,8.83,15.10,5.33,2.06,18.31, 14.96,29.68,5.57,0.12,0.14,0.04,0.06,0.13,0.56,0.0 8
Italian:Italy_Central_Sicily,8.94,14.64,4.78,1.31, 17.60,14.12,29.14,6.68,0.05,0.15,0.03,0.14,0.20,1. 84,0.36
Italian:Italy_East_Sicily,8.07,12.81,4.41,1.82,18. 07,15.44,30.59,6.26,0.22,0.18,0.13,0.07,0.23,1.20, 0.48
Italian:Italy_West_Sicily,9.37,13.38,4.79,1.71,18. 12,13.93,30.01,5.89,0.32,0.25,0.05,0.16,0.21,0.98, 0.85
Italian:Italy_Emiliaromagna,17.94,19.13,7.04,3.17, 20.08,8.91,19.65,3.29,0.03,0.12,0.00,0.04,0.29,0.1 5,0.02
Italian:Italy_Friuli,19.00,21.50,10.42,6.03,17.50, 7.38,14.76,2.41,0.28,0.15,0.02,0.34,0.06,0.13,0.00
Italian:Italy_Lazio,15.18,17.36,7.06,2.43,19.99,9. 92,23.83,3.74,0.07,0.14,0.03,0.10,0.03,0.05,0.09
Italian:Italy_Liguria,18.23,21.71,6.84,3.24,20.21, 7.98,17.82,3.03,0.11,0.17,0.07,0.23,0.24,0.03,0.08
Italian:Italy_Lombardy,21.50,22.45,6.34,2.73,20.71 ,6.38,16.91,2.27,0.11,0.21,0.08,0.06,0.16,0.07,0.0 0
Italian:Italy_Marche,15.34,17.26,5.97,2.22,19.56,1 1.73,22.54,4.32,0.21,0.10,0.00,0.37,0.10,0.27,0.07
Italian:Italy_Tuscany,17.25,20.05,6.52,2.79,20.41, 9.07,19.20,3.54,0.57,0.25,0.02,0.06,0.14,0.08,0.02
Italian:Italy_Veneto,21.07,21.37,8.50,5.45,18.65,7 .15,14.69,2.42,0.14,0.18,0.05,0.08,0.15,0.09,0.00
British_Isles:English,36.01,28.18,10.15,8.76,9.51, 3.69,1.38,0.49,0.73,0.06,0.10,0.32,0.24,0.16,0.11
British_Isles:English_Midlands,36.12,27.75,10.07,8 .86,9.57,3.79,1.45,0.49,0.71,0.05,0.08,0.28,0.23,0 .20,0.13
British_Isles:English_North,36.51,28.48,10.29,8.89 ,9.09,3.58,1.00,0.42,0.64,0.04,0.10,0.33,0.24,0.17 ,0.11
British_Isles:English_Southeast,35.29,27.87,10.31, 8.60,9.69,3.98,1.82,0.54,0.77,0.08,0.12,0.34,0.25, 0.16,0.09
British_Isles:English_Southwest,36.09,28.52,9.72,8 .69,10.25,3.20,1.19,0.45,0.80,0.06,0.06,0.38,0.27, 0.12,0.11
British_Isles:Irish,36.92,30.40,9.48,8.82,7.71,4.2 1,0.16,0.27,0.96,0.09,0.09,0.52,0.15,0.08,0.08
British_Isles:Irish_Connacht,37.57,30.18,9.18,9.34 ,7.35,3.93,0.14,0.11,1.09,0.03,0.10,0.62,0.11,0.10 ,0.08
British_Isles:Irish_Leinster,36.39,30.24,9.49,8.94 ,8.08,4.34,0.30,0.40,0.75,0.16,0.00,0.44,0.18,0.11 ,0.10
British_Isles:Irish_Munster,37.02,30.48,9.63,8.51, 7.64,4.38,0.16,0.18,0.90,0.05,0.14,0.50,0.16,0.07, 0.10
British_Isles:Irish_Ulster,36.93,30.83,9.29,8.56,7 .61,4.34,0.04,0.29,1.07,0.05,0.17,0.54,0.13,0.04,0 .04

Target: gixajo
Distance: 3.9000% / 3.90001629
50.7 SW_French
49.3 Iberian

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 4.9932% / 4.99316357
65.8 Iberian
34.2 SW_French

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.6805% / 2.68045212
88.7 SW_French
11.3 Iberian

Bastante raro que a mi padre no le salga italiano, ni a mi madre una pizca de islas británicas, será cosa de alguna de las 3 referencias SW_French.

Como ves las referencias SW_French son básicamente unas referencias "ibéricas" , tirando a vascas.

gixajo
03-08-2022, 06:37 PM
Pues tienes realmente poca, estos son mis resultados (soy un 0% frances y un 0% ingles)

...n

Bueno, inglés igual no, pero irlandés... :rolleyes:

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 06:55 PM
la de k15:
Distance to: ivan
5.13950387 Iberian:Spanish_Valencia
5.59050087 Iberian:Spanish_Andalucia
6.20253980 Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.94449422 Iberian:Spanish_Aragon
7.02043446 Iberian:Spanish_Murcia
7.95068551 Iberian:Spanish_Extremadura
8.57896264 Iberian:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
9.10208767 SW_French:Southwest_French
9.11976425 Iberian:Spanish_Cantabria
9.28553176 Iberian:Spanish_Cataluna
10.20788421 Iberian:Portuguese
11.00772002 SW_French:French_South
12.66140593 Italian:Italy_Piedmont
12.71306021 Iberian:Spanish_Galicia
12.93823790 SW_French:French_Southwest
14.96311465 Italian:Italy_Lombardy
15.25081309 Italian:Italy_Liguria
15.58320891 Italian:Italy_Friuli
15.59000000 Italian:Italy_Veneto
16.05756520 Italian:Italy_Trentino
16.64772957 Italian:Italy_Aostavalley
17.30467856 Italian:Italy_Tuscany
18.24466497 Italian:Italy_Emiliaromagna
21.73204086 Italian:Italy_Lazio
21.99867269 Italian:Italy_Marche

Target: ivan
Distance: 4.9629% / 4.96292953
95.3 Iberian
4.7 Italian




probare con mi madre por curiosidad

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 06:59 PM
Es un poco extraño esta calculadora a mi normalmente me aparecealgo del norte de europe y a mi madre más XD

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 07:04 PM
mi antuguo k36 ( me parecia interesante):
Closest population distances
Population
Distance
I3585_Andalusia
1.287711
I3582_Andalusia
1.520221
BA_Hungary_RISE373
1.678921
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
1.714196
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
1.742027
I3581_Andalusia
1.821964
I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
1.825924
i3759_Celtiberian_IA
1.852608












Population
Value
I3585_Andalusia
22
BA_Portugal_TorreVelha_32032
13.8
I10851_Medieval_Catalonia
12.8
BA_Hungary_RISE374
11.4
I3575_Andalusia
11
CHL_Iberia_I1274
9.6
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
4.8
BA_I9123_Crete_Armenoi
4.4
MBA_Armenia_RISE416
3.8
IA_EastKazachstan_Is2
2.2
IA_Wielbark_Kow_45_PL
1.4
Sweden_Viking_84035
1.4
IA_Wielbark_Kow_25_PL
0.8
LBA_Armenia_RISE412
0.6

gixajo
03-08-2022, 07:36 PM
mi antuguo k36 ( me parecia interesante):
Closest population distances
Population
Distance
I3585_Andalusia
1.287711
I3582_Andalusia
1.520221
BA_Hungary_RISE373
1.678921
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
1.714196
I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent
1.742027
I3581_Andalusia
1.821964
I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
1.825924
i3759_Celtiberian_IA
1.852608












Population
Value
I3585_Andalusia
22
BA_Portugal_TorreVelha_32032
13.8
I10851_Medieval_Catalonia
12.8
BA_Hungary_RISE374
11.4
I3575_Andalusia
11
CHL_Iberia_I1274
9.6
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD
4.8
BA_I9123_Crete_Armenoi
4.4
MBA_Armenia_RISE416
3.8
IA_EastKazachstan_Is2
2.2
IA_Wielbark_Kow_45_PL
1.4
Sweden_Viking_84035
1.4
IA_Wielbark_Kow_25_PL
0.8
LBA_Armenia_RISE412
0.6

Estos son esos mismos individuos en coordenadas del K13, les puse las mismas etiquetas que muestras en tus resultados.

Ninguno de ellos es espedcialmente representativo del norte de Europa. EL I2462 de Kent, está especificado como "alto EEF", y comparado la población moderna más cercana sería precisamente SW France.

Hasta el etiquetado como Celtiberian, es el más "sureño" de los 3 samples berones del poblado alavés de La Hoya y es también muy SW France.

Los samples medievales andaluces, varios en algunos sitios vienen etiquetados como "visigodos", pero más bien deberían estar etiquetados como "del período visigodo", otros son directamente del período de Al-Andalus, algunos etiquetados como nazaríes.

Yo tampoco veo nada que denote ningún antepasado reciente de las islas británicas o francés, más bien todo lo que veo te dibuja como un español del este de la península, tirando hacia al sur más que al norte , o como un balear normal y corriente.

Con esto no estoy dudando de lo que comentas sobre antepasados extranjeros, simplemente que es lo que parece desprenderse de tus resultados.


I2462_Bronze_Age_England_Kent,45.30,17.91,25.40,1. 69,4.72,1.53,0.34,0.00,0.96,2.15,0.00,0.00,0.00
I3585_Andalusia,39.21,7.67,27.70,0.00,13.02,6.90,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.17,1.21,0.10,4.02
I3582_Andalusia,29.49,9.94,27.40,0.00,22.92,5.50,0 .64,0.00,0.31,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.80
BA_Hungary_RISE373,36.14,14.36,29.65,0.00,16.21,1. 37,0.00,0.00,0.23,1.62,0.42,0.00,0.00
i7425_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD,30.52,5.52,27.69,5. 56,19.81,4.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.14,3.08
I3581_Andalusia,33.43,4.60,28.75,0.95,23.40,6.64,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.22,0.00
I7424_Morisco_Andalusia_1500AD,28.65,9.33,23.86,5. 38,23.91,6.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.92,0.00
i3759_Celtiberian_IA,45.53,14.51,28.31,0.00,7.72,0 .44,0.00,2.67,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.27

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 07:54 PM
es bastante probable lo que dices en my heritage here un poco del noroeste de europa pero la que tiene mas mezcla del norte y oeste de la peninsula es mas el lado de mi madre el cual herede algo pero no tanto geneticamente y al ser el lado demi padre esencialmente vasco me hace mas iberico
mi k15 antiguo es este un tanto curioso pero no lo entiendo del todo:
Distancias de población más cercanas
Población
Distancia
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
1.218
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
1.333
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
1.427
IA_Ardea_R851
1.583
Escita_SCY311
1.883
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
1.892
Húngaro_medieval_DA199
2.206
Baviera_STR310
2.462
Adicionar 2 oráculo
Población
Valor
Boncuklu002
50
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Porcentajes de población
Boncuklu002
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Boncuklu002 50
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Adicionar 4 Oráculo
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Boncuklu002
25
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
25
Porcentajes de población
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
Boncuklu002
IA_Protovillanovan_Mart…
25%
25%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Boncuklu002 25
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 25
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Mezclar 10% - min
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Boncuklu002
20
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
20
Guanche_11
10
Porcentajes de población
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
Boncuklu002
IA_Protovillanovan_Mart…
Guanche_11
10%
20%
20%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Boncuklu002 20
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 20
Guanche_11 10
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Mezcla 1% - min
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
56
Boncuklu002
22
Guanche_11
11
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
6
Malta
3
Sidón_cananeo_ERS1790729
2
Porcentajes de población

Beowulf
03-08-2022, 08:44 PM
tambien comparto aqui mis resultados de my heritage que es en lo que mas confio antes que calculadoras diferentes:


Ibérico
82,5%
España (Andalucía y Murcia), Francia y Argelia
Italiano
11,8%
Europeo del noroeste
3,3%
MEDIO ORIENTE
De Medio Oriente
2,4%


mi madre:

EUROPA
Ibérica
79,3%
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Balcánica
14,4%
Europea del noroeste
5,0%
Judía Askenazí
1,3%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Surinam (Paramaribo) y los Países Bajos

mi padre:
EUROPA
Ibérico
96,6%
Vascos en España (País Vasco) y en Francia (Pirineos Atlánticos)
España
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Italiano
3,4%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Turquía, Grecia, Argelia, Marruecos y Francia

gixajo
03-08-2022, 08:49 PM
es bastante probable lo que dices en my heritage here un poco del noroeste de europa pero la que tiene mas mezcla del norte y oeste de la peninsula es mas el lado de mi madre el cual herede algo pero no tanto geneticamente y al ser el lado demi padre esencialmente vasco me hace mas iberico
mi k15 antiguo es este un tanto curioso pero no lo entiendo del todo:
Distancias de población más cercanas
Población
Distancia
IA_Boville_Ernica_R1021
1.218
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
1.333
IA_Etruscan_Veio_Grotta_Gramiccia_R1015
1.427
IA_Ardea_R851
1.583
Escita_SCY311
1.883
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
1.892
Húngaro_medieval_DA199
2.206
Baviera_STR310
2.462
Adicionar 2 oráculo
Población
Valor
Boncuklu002
50
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Porcentajes de población
Boncuklu002
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Boncuklu002 50
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Adicionar 4 Oráculo
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Boncuklu002
25
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
25
Porcentajes de población
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
Boncuklu002
IA_Protovillanovan_Mart…
25%
25%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Boncuklu002 25
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 25
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Mezclar 10% - min
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
50
Boncuklu002
20
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
20
Guanche_11
10
Porcentajes de población
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
Boncuklu002
IA_Protovillanovan_Mart…
Guanche_11
10%
20%
20%
50%
Población Porcentaje
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111 50
Boncuklu002 20
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1 20
Guanche_11 10
Poblaciones por debajo del 1% 0
Mezcla 1% - min
Población
Valor
Hallstatt_Celt_DA111
56
Boncuklu002
22
Guanche_11
11
IA_Protovillanovan_Martinsicuro_R1
6
Malta
3
Sidón_cananeo_ERS1790729
2
Porcentajes de población

¿Me puedes recordar tus resultados de My Heritage? Porque ahora mismo no me acuerdo.

mitalit
03-08-2022, 09:19 PM
¿Me puedes recordar tus resultados de My Heritage? Porque ahora mismo no me acuerdo.


tambien comparto aqui mis resultados de my heritage que es en lo que mas confio antes que calculadoras diferentes:


Ibérico
82,5%
España (Andalucía y Murcia), Francia y Argelia
Italiano
11,8%
Europeo del noroeste
3,3%
MEDIO ORIENTE
De Medio Oriente
2,4%


mi madre:

EUROPA
Ibérica
79,3%
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Balcánica
14,4%
Europea del noroeste
5,0%
Judía Askenazí
1,3%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Surinam (Paramaribo) y los Países Bajos

mi padre:
EUROPA
Ibérico
96,6%
Vascos en España (País Vasco) y en Francia (Pirineos Atlánticos)
España
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Italiano
3,4%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Turquía, Grecia, Argelia, Marruecos y Francia

gixajo
03-08-2022, 09:41 PM
tambien comparto aqui mis resultados de my heritage que es en lo que mas confio antes que calculadoras diferentes:


Ibérico
82,5%
España (Andalucía y Murcia), Francia y Argelia
Italiano
11,8%
Europeo del noroeste
3,3%
MEDIO ORIENTE
De Medio Oriente
2,4%


mi madre:

EUROPA
Ibérica
79,3%
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Balcánica
14,4%
Europea del noroeste
5,0%
Judía Askenazí
1,3%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Surinam (Paramaribo) y los Países Bajos

mi padre:
EUROPA
Ibérico
96,6%
Vascos en España (País Vasco) y en Francia (Pirineos Atlánticos)
España
Sur de España, Francia y Argelia
Italiano
3,4%
GRUPO GENÉTICO ADICIONAL
Turquía, Grecia, Argelia, Marruecos y Francia

Pues que quieres que te diga, ninguno de los 3 resultados me parecen que denoten ningún antepasado extranjero del norte de Europa, ni de ningún sitio...

¿Has visto los resultados de otros españoles de este foro?

Beowulf
03-09-2022, 07:38 AM
Si vi los resultados de otros españoles hay quienes estan mas mezclado y otros no realmente.

Tengo una duda. Para hacer los resultados de ADN de my heritage funciona similar a gedmatch con coordenadas? y cual seria el mas preciso?

siento por mis preguntas tontas es que tengo mucha curiosidad xd




tambien tengo el mapa k36 de mi madre por curiosidad:
112978

gixajo
03-09-2022, 09:40 AM
Si vi los resultados de otros españoles hay quienes estan mas mezclado y otros no realmente.

Tengo una duda. Para hacer los resultados de ADN de my heritage funciona similar a gedmatch con coordenadas? y cual seria el mas preciso?

siento por mis preguntas tontas es que tengo mucha curiosidad xd




tambien tengo el mapa k36 de mi madre por curiosidad:
112978

No, el método de estimación étnica de las compañías comerciales no se hace con coordenadas, se harán por asignación de SNPs o de cadenas de SNPs, y se determinará por comparación estadística cada SNP o cadenas de SNPs a un determinado origen, basándose en su extensa base de datos de genotipos de individuos testados.

Tu genotipo, incluso en una sola compañía, puede haber dado varias docenas de "estimaciones étnicas" diferentes posibles, con diferentes proporciones de cada "etnia", MH entre todas esas habrá elegido una sola de ellas que habrá considerado como más adecuada, según los criterios que usen en cada momento.

Las proporciones estimadas de cada "etnia" en los resultados de MH no implican antepasados de esas "etnias", todos estos resultados no deben leerse de esa forma.

Beowulf
03-09-2022, 10:01 AM
Okay gracias por aclararme la duda ;) siento ser muy pesado xd

gixajo
03-09-2022, 10:26 AM
Okay gracias por aclararme la duda ;) siento ser muy pesado xd

No pasa nada, todos cuando empezamos con todas estas historias tardamos un tiempo en empezar a comprender que nos dicen nuestros resultados, tampoco yo voy mucho más allá de ser un aficionado.

Los marcadores genéticos paterno y materno (haplotipos) son resultados más objetivos (tampoco lo son del todo), pero las estimaciones étnicas basadas en genotipos autosomales, tienen una holgura enorme en su interpretación, y es mejor verlas todas en conjunto y simplemente tratar de sonsacar la tendencia general.

Beowulf
03-09-2022, 11:16 AM
hace poco descubri un trquito para saber de forma mas concreta tus ancestros ( lo recomiendo en k13 vahaduo ) en gedmatch cuando vas a elegir eurogenes pones que lo separen en cromosomas y pones las cordenadas de estos y te pueden sorprender lo que lleva tus cromosomas que no haya sido detectado facilemente antes yo por ejemplodos cromosomasmios son germanicos y uno es Irlandes otro balcanico, otros italianos y elresto contiene lo tipico iberico con tramosfranceses del sur

no se si lo conocias pero si no es así te parecera interesante creo yo.

porponer un ejemplo aqui esta mi cromosoma 18 con el calulador k13que me hicisteis:

Target: ch18
Distance: 4.3178% / 4.31777448
52.6 British_Isles
34.7 SW_French
12.7 Italian

o mi cromosoma 6:

Target: ch6
Distance: 23.0628% / 23.06277532
55.7 British_Isles
39.8 SW_French
4.5 Italian


tambien el uno por poner un ejemplo mas del sur:

Target: ch1
Distance: 17.7025% / 17.70251650
53.6 SW_French
46.4 Italian








tambien tengo el de mi padre que se olvidó jaja:

Target: papa
Distance: 2.0613% / 2.06131618
51.9 Iberian
39.5 SW_French
8.6 Italian


el es por asi decirlo vasco(español e frances)+jaen+norte de italia

Defcon2
03-09-2022, 05:24 PM
Irlandes

Me han enviado un correo con que posiblemente el procesamiento del kit se retrase por el virus.

https://ibb.co/YPVFW2R

mitalit
03-09-2022, 09:38 PM
Me han enviado un correo con que posiblemente el procesamiento del kit se retrase por el virus.

https://ibb.co/YPVFW2R

A mi no me han enviado nada, me parece una escusa un poco barateja la verdad

gixajo
03-09-2022, 11:26 PM
Trirracial

¿Mandaste la muestra de saliva estando contagiado con COVID o qué?

Defcon2
03-10-2022, 05:29 AM
¿Mandaste la muestra de saliva estando contagiado con COVID o qué?

Estuve enfermo semanas atrás, a saber!

gixajo
03-10-2022, 09:39 AM
Estuve enfermo semanas atrás, a saber!

Maldita rata infecciosa, con lo mala gente que eres seguro que pretendías expandir alguna nueva cepa del covid en Estados Unidos.

Beowulf
03-13-2022, 06:25 PM
alguien probo tell me gen con el raw data te dan resultados gratis con tu raw data son una una empresas:


mis resultados:

AFRICANO0%
EUROPEO91.3%
OCEÁNICO0%
ESTE DE ASIA0.2%
ASIÁTICO MEDIO ORIENTE8.2%
AMERICANO0%
SUDASIÁTICO0.3%
Zoom level changed to 1.2419179471231154
Más información de tus ancestros genéticos
IBÉRICO52.2%
BRITÁNICO E IRLANDÉS20%
ITALIANO (SARDO)10.9%
FRANCÉS (VASCO)8.2%
EGIPCIO, LEVANTINO Y ÁRABE8.1%
PUNJABI0.3%
NATIVO DEL ESTE DE SIBERIA0.2%
BEDUINO

gixajo
03-15-2022, 11:31 AM
Best calculator ever for Iberian&Iberoamericans!!! (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?360697-Best-calculator-ever-for-Iberians-amp-Iberoamericans!!!-(G25-Scaled));)

Juan Lacas
03-15-2022, 11:53 AM
Best calculator ever for Iberian&Iberoamericans!!! (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?360697-Best-calculator-ever-for-Iberians-amp-Iberoamericans!!!-(G25-Scaled));)

Target: Juan Lacas
Distance: 0.0223% / 0.02232565
85.6 Ibero-Italian
10.4 Ibero-Berber
2.1 Ibero-African
1.1 Ibero-British
0.5 Ibero_Amerindian
0.3 Ibero-Indian

HelloGuys
03-15-2022, 05:48 PM
Best calculator ever for Iberian&Iberoamericans!!! (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?360697-Best-calculator-ever-for-Iberians-amp-Iberoamericans!!!-(G25-Scaled));)

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 0.0388% / 0.03880621
74.9 Ibero_Amerindian
9.6 Ibero-African
8.6 Ibero-Arab
5.4 Ibero-Indian
1.5 Ibero-Levantine


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 0.0314% / 0.03144547
73.7 Ibero_Amerindian
11.7 Ibero-Arab
11.5 Ibero-African
2.8 Ibero-Indian
0.3 Ibero-Levantine


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 0.0280% / 0.02801322
87.6 Ibero_Amerindian
6.8 Ibero-African
5.4 Ibero-Indian
0.2 Ibero-Arab


Target: Hermana_scaled
Distance: 0.0338% / 0.03378648
78.6 Ibero_Amerindian
8.0 Ibero-African
7.0 Ibero-Indian
4.8 Ibero-Arab
1.6 Ibero-Levantine

Damião de Góis
03-15-2022, 11:18 PM
Hello, have any of you ever tried AncestryDNA? What are your opinions of it?

Defcon2
03-16-2022, 12:51 PM
Hello, have any of you ever tried AncestryDNA? What are your opinions of it?

Ancestry does not have support nor does it ship to any Iberian country, but it would be a good option to take a test.

Damião de Góis
03-16-2022, 08:01 PM
Ancestry does not have support nor does it ship to any Iberian country, but it would be a good option to take a test.

Ancestry.com ships to Portugal but for some strange reason it doesn't ship to Spain. But you can also buy it on Amazon.

Beowulf
03-22-2022, 08:15 PM
Mapa de k36 de mi madre: 113114

Defcon2
03-23-2022, 05:26 PM
Calculatorr!!!

Basque vs Mediterranean


Basque:Basque_Araba,0.1275854,0.1485442,0.0590365, 0.0157976,0.0537723,0.0043864,-0.0024142,0.0040906,0.0254166,0.0380211,-0.0069532,0.0096325,-0.0220693,-0.0149507,0.0158915,-0.0007835,-0.007337,6.91e-05,0.0003998,-0.004036,0.0089726,0.0019447,-0.0048067,-0.006244,-0.0004463
Basque:Basque_Baztan,0.1317244,0.1515907,0.0590707 ,0.0119804,0.0576889,0.0008114,-0.002927,0.0038809,0.0336348,0.0419807,-0.0052258,0.0109811,-0.022583,-0.0170903,0.0165701,0.0012776,-0.0082142,0.0007485,-0.0003657,-0.0076286,0.0084055,-0.0010342,-0.0088738,-0.0080625,0.0034401
Basque:Basque_Biscay,0.1301722,0.1502985,0.0571167 ,0.0107177,0.0564578,0.0059581,-0.0008973,0.0009441,0.0267555,0.0419806,-0.0075289,0.0147005,-0.0246371,-0.017428,0.0157435,0.0008197,-0.0047056,0.0027871,0.0003085,-0.0022169,0.0100503,0.001675,-0.0068122,-0.0088072,-0.0002177
Basque:Basque_Gipuzkoa,0.1309999,0.1484519,0.05389 41,0.0111875,0.055199,0.0012676,-0.003995,0.0005454,0.0297675,0.0415664,-0.0054623,0.0126024,-0.0206367,-0.0177406,0.0159533,0.0058461,-0.0030225,0.0014051,-0.0006855,-0.0051503,0.005615,-0.001259,-0.0104089,-0.0103627,0.0014043
Basque:Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest,0.131207,0.149375 1,0.0579394,0.012274,0.05657,0.0019015,-0.0023714,0.0006712,0.0268855,0.0422788,-0.0058606,0.0100411,-0.0223531,-0.0195175,0.0152994,0.0049662,-0.0026907,0.0025337,-0.0018054,-0.001171,0.0102433,0.0023606,-0.010465,-0.0099685,0.0019158
Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre,0.1296547,0.1482672,0. 0555396,0.0110407,0.0550309,0.0014452,-0.0011536,0.0010908,0.0303997,0.0442501,-0.005034,0.0117168,-0.0227585,-0.0160266,0.0172241,-9.65e-05,-0.0076688,0.0026374,-0.002434,-0.0018646,0.0064885,0.0024506,-0.0078541,-0.0095961,0.002863
Basque:Basque_Navarre_Center,0.1272748,0.1485443,0 .0532426,0.0056085,0.0516178,0.0005325,-0.0035252,-0.0014895,0.0278152,0.0418315,-0.0034398,0.0098775,-0.0210964,-0.0188043,0.0148182,0.0009764,-0.0041725,0.0023035,-0.004948,-0.0005002,0.0070785,0.0003934,-0.0062744,-0.0079746,2.17e-05
Basque:Basque_Navarre_North,0.1295514,0.1497444,0. 0564655,0.0105415,0.0575771,0.0006085,-0.0006195,0.0020768,0.0302136,0.0448301,-0.0060674,0.0120848,-0.0243263,-0.0192421,0.0141517,0.0025795,-0.0034966,0.0037662,-0.002057,-0.00274,0.0100505,0.002192,-0.0093445,-0.0109215,0.0025474
Basque:Basque_Roncal,0.1311035,0.1488211,0.0549566 ,0.0122153,0.0545555,0.0015973,-0.00141,0.0009441,0.0336347,0.0403903,-0.006835,0.0101227,-0.0204747,-0.0169525,0.0158052,0.0007955,-0.003864,0.0037202,0.0002169,-0.0012505,0.0084623,0.0013375,-0.0054899,-0.0087085,0.0014369
Basque:Basque_Soule,0.1317243,0.1548219,0.0546482, 0.0068124,0.0585285,0.0009128,-0.0019014,0.0012166,0.0309945,0.0432396,-0.0059936,0.0119895,-0.0227449,-0.0167275,0.0124615,-0.0010968,-0.0097314,0.0009675,-4e-04,-0.0032402,0.0092336,0.0020908,-0.0076526,-0.0095193,0.0025909
Basque:Basque_Spanish,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.058286 2,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Mediterranean:Moroccan_North,-0.0299735,0.1373221,-0.0030378,-0.0673993,0.0280564,-0.0319174,-0.0244542,0.0050512,0.0609822,0.0327317,0.0059091,-0.0065526,0.0185908,-0.0147102,0.0151403,-0.0105629,0.0012604,-0.0179828,-0.040747,0.0092961,-0.0121937,-0.0346297,0.0214382,-0.0055763,0.0043974
Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew,0.0907738,0.145094,-0.0233814,-0.0609662,0.0057318,-0.0219276,-0.0054344,-0.002596,0.0116579,0.0199775,0.004202,0.0001688,5. 56e-05,-0.0005678,-0.00436,-0.0065301,-0.0081814,-0.000475,-0.0013355,-0.0065658,-0.0048508,-0.0059044,0.001217,0.0025606,0.0024399
Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany,0.1186036,0.1487413, 0.0136014,-0.0204997,0.0261587,-0.0090546,-0.00047,-0.0013845,0.0074991,0.0238972,-0.0002273,0.0054552,-0.0118631,-0.0045965,-0.0023797,-0.0002917,0.0040332,0.0004815,0.0038463,-0.0023929,-0.0012063,0.0024647,-0.0010436,0.00388,-0.0015885


Añadir estas si eres del nuevo mundo:


SSA:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Amerindio:BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413


Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 2.9426% / 0.02942557
67.6 Basque
32.4 Mediterranean

gixajo
03-23-2022, 06:05 PM
Basque:Basque_Araba,0.1275854,0.1485442,0.0590365, 0.0157976,0.0537723,0.0043864,-0.0024142,0.0040906,0.0254166,0.0380211,-0.0069532,0.0096325,-0.0220693,-0.0149507,0.0158915,-0.0007835,-0.007337,6.91e-05,0.0003998,-0.004036,0.0089726,0.0019447,-0.0048067,-0.006244,-0.0004463
Basque:Basque_Baztan,0.1317244,0.1515907,0.0590707 ,0.0119804,0.0576889,0.0008114,-0.002927,0.0038809,0.0336348,0.0419807,-0.0052258,0.0109811,-0.022583,-0.0170903,0.0165701,0.0012776,-0.0082142,0.0007485,-0.0003657,-0.0076286,0.0084055,-0.0010342,-0.0088738,-0.0080625,0.0034401
Basque:Basque_Biscay,0.1301722,0.1502985,0.0571167 ,0.0107177,0.0564578,0.0059581,-0.0008973,0.0009441,0.0267555,0.0419806,-0.0075289,0.0147005,-0.0246371,-0.017428,0.0157435,0.0008197,-0.0047056,0.0027871,0.0003085,-0.0022169,0.0100503,0.001675,-0.0068122,-0.0088072,-0.0002177
Basque:Basque_Gipuzkoa,0.1309999,0.1484519,0.05389 41,0.0111875,0.055199,0.0012676,-0.003995,0.0005454,0.0297675,0.0415664,-0.0054623,0.0126024,-0.0206367,-0.0177406,0.0159533,0.0058461,-0.0030225,0.0014051,-0.0006855,-0.0051503,0.005615,-0.001259,-0.0104089,-0.0103627,0.0014043
Basque:Basque_Gipuzkoa_Southwest,0.131207,0.149375 1,0.0579394,0.012274,0.05657,0.0019015,-0.0023714,0.0006712,0.0268855,0.0422788,-0.0058606,0.0100411,-0.0223531,-0.0195175,0.0152994,0.0049662,-0.0026907,0.0025337,-0.0018054,-0.001171,0.0102433,0.0023606,-0.010465,-0.0099685,0.0019158
Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre,0.1296547,0.1482672,0. 0555396,0.0110407,0.0550309,0.0014452,-0.0011536,0.0010908,0.0303997,0.0442501,-0.005034,0.0117168,-0.0227585,-0.0160266,0.0172241,-9.65e-05,-0.0076688,0.0026374,-0.002434,-0.0018646,0.0064885,0.0024506,-0.0078541,-0.0095961,0.002863
Basque:Basque_Navarre_Center,0.1272748,0.1485443,0 .0532426,0.0056085,0.0516178,0.0005325,-0.0035252,-0.0014895,0.0278152,0.0418315,-0.0034398,0.0098775,-0.0210964,-0.0188043,0.0148182,0.0009764,-0.0041725,0.0023035,-0.004948,-0.0005002,0.0070785,0.0003934,-0.0062744,-0.0079746,2.17e-05
Basque:Basque_Navarre_North,0.1295514,0.1497444,0. 0564655,0.0105415,0.0575771,0.0006085,-0.0006195,0.0020768,0.0302136,0.0448301,-0.0060674,0.0120848,-0.0243263,-0.0192421,0.0141517,0.0025795,-0.0034966,0.0037662,-0.002057,-0.00274,0.0100505,0.002192,-0.0093445,-0.0109215,0.0025474
Basque:Basque_Roncal,0.1311035,0.1488211,0.0549566 ,0.0122153,0.0545555,0.0015973,-0.00141,0.0009441,0.0336347,0.0403903,-0.006835,0.0101227,-0.0204747,-0.0169525,0.0158052,0.0007955,-0.003864,0.0037202,0.0002169,-0.0012505,0.0084623,0.0013375,-0.0054899,-0.0087085,0.0014369
Basque:Basque_Soule,0.1317243,0.1548219,0.0546482, 0.0068124,0.0585285,0.0009128,-0.0019014,0.0012166,0.0309945,0.0432396,-0.0059936,0.0119895,-0.0227449,-0.0167275,0.0124615,-0.0010968,-0.0097314,0.0009675,-4e-04,-0.0032402,0.0092336,0.0020908,-0.0076526,-0.0095193,0.0025909
Basque:Basque_Spanish,0.1319083,0.1504111,0.058286 2,0.0090081,0.0575834,0.0001239,-0.0033162,0.0004102,0.0313603,0.0455997,-0.0045288,0.0116063,-0.0227781,-0.0187627,0.0179452,0.0037271,-0.0058094,0.0027731,-0.0018156,-6.96e-05,0.0087901,0.0024868,-0.0068883,-0.0090371,0.0022619
Mediterranean:Moroccan_North,-0.0299735,0.1373221,-0.0030378,-0.0673993,0.0280564,-0.0319174,-0.0244542,0.0050512,0.0609822,0.0327317,0.0059091,-0.0065526,0.0185908,-0.0147102,0.0151403,-0.0105629,0.0012604,-0.0179828,-0.040747,0.0092961,-0.0121937,-0.0346297,0.0214382,-0.0055763,0.0043974
Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew,0.0907738,0.145094,-0.0233814,-0.0609662,0.0057318,-0.0219276,-0.0054344,-0.002596,0.0116579,0.0199775,0.004202,0.0001688,5. 56e-05,-0.0005678,-0.00436,-0.0065301,-0.0081814,-0.000475,-0.0013355,-0.0065658,-0.0048508,-0.0059044,0.001217,0.0025606,0.0024399
Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany,0.1186036,0.1487413, 0.0136014,-0.0204997,0.0261587,-0.0090546,-0.00047,-0.0013845,0.0074991,0.0238972,-0.0002273,0.0054552,-0.0118631,-0.0045965,-0.0023797,-0.0002917,0.0040332,0.0004815,0.0038463,-0.0023929,-0.0012063,0.0024647,-0.0010436,0.00388,-0.0015885




Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6466% / 0.01646590
70.4 Basque
29.6 Mediterranean

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8046% / 0.01804571
56.2 Basque
43.8 Mediterranean

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0314% / 0.02031397
88.4 Basque
11.6 Mediterranean

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.6466% / 0.01646590
44.6 Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre
25.6 Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany
19.4 Basque:Basque_Araba
6.4 Basque:Basque_Roncal
4.0 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8046% / 0.01804571
56.2 Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre
34.2 Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany
9.6 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0314% / 0.02031397
77.4 Basque:Basque_Araba
11.0 Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre
9.8 Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew:eek:
1.8 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North

Defcon2
03-23-2022, 06:20 PM
Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.0314% / 0.02031397
77.4 Basque:Basque_Araba
11.0 Basque:Basque_Lower_Navarre
9.8 Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew:eek:
1.8 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North
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La idea era esa, algunos obtienen demasiado de Tuscany como tu Apá y sacan un vasco bajo por ello.

gixajo
03-23-2022, 06:33 PM
La idea era esa, algunos obtienen demasiado de Tuscany como tu Apá y sacan un vasco bajo por ello.

A mi padre siempre le han dicho que se parece a Al Bano (Albano Carrisi) de Al Bano& Romina, aunque Al Bano es de Puglia no de la Toscana.

Defcon2
03-23-2022, 06:40 PM
A mi padre siempre le han dicho que se parece a Al Bano (Albano Carrisi) de Al Bano& Romina, aunque Al Bano es de Puglia no de la Toscana.

Supongo que por las gafas, por cierto no todos los italianos son rubios, mi pozo en un gozo!

gixajo
03-23-2022, 06:42 PM
Supongo que por las gafas, por cierto no todos los italianos son rubios, mi pozo en un gozo!

Todos no, solo los del norte...:D

Pedro Ruben
03-23-2022, 06:58 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.6459% / 0.02645929
59.6 Basque:Basque_Araba
19.6 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North
16.8 Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany
4.0 Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 2.4996% / 0.02499623
64.4 Basque:Basque_Araba
25.2 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North
6.6 Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany
3.8 Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3113% / 0.02311263
66.2 Basque:Basque_Araba
18.2 Mediterranean:Italian_Tuscany
15.6 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North

Con nuevo mundo

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.0793% / 0.02079272
68.2 Basque:Basque_Araba
21.4 Mediterranean:Sephardic_Jew
6.4 Mediterranean:Moroccan_North
3.0 SSA:Yoruba
1.0 Amerindio:BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP

Defcon2
03-30-2022, 03:09 PM
Los resultados del Nebula ya me llegaron, la verdad es que abruma con la cantidad de información que dan. Este es el estado en el que se encuentra mi y-dna ahora donde pone new:

https://i.imgur.com/2GiLJ4n.jpg

Un reporte clínico random y para nada pretencioso:

https://i.imgur.com/ylZ8Z0L.jpg

También tiene una herramienta de analisis del genoma para identificar variantes únicas y tal, pero aún no tengo ni idea por donde empezar, necesito asesoramiento :D


https://youtu.be/K7JLbCv2LcA

mitalit
03-30-2022, 06:53 PM
Los resultados del Nebula ya me llegaron, la verdad es que abruma con la cantidad de información que dan. Este es el estado en el que se encuentra mi y-dna ahora donde pone new:

https://i.imgur.com/2GiLJ4n.jpg

Un reporte clínico random y para nada pretencioso:

https://i.imgur.com/ylZ8Z0L.jpg

También tiene una herramienta de analisis del genoma para identificar variantes únicas y tal, pero aún no tengo ni idea por donde empezar, necesito asesoramiento :D


https://youtu.be/K7JLbCv2LcA

El haplogrupo materno no lo has subido?

Defcon2
03-30-2022, 07:06 PM
El haplogrupo materno no lo has subido?

Viene incluido pero no me encuentro, supuestamente soy V o HV pero en ninguno de los dos encuentro lo de "analizando", aun no me revelaron nada los de Yfull pero como sabía de antemano mi haplo creo que me adelanté xD


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gixajo
03-30-2022, 07:45 PM
Viene incluido pero no me encuentro, supuestamente soy V o HV pero en ninguno de los dos encuentro lo de "analizando", aun no me revelaron nada los de Yfull pero como sabía de antemano mi haplo creo que me adelanté xD

Me suena que subir los datos en crudo del mtdna para incluir tu sample en el Ytree es gratis en Yfull si ya pagaste por subir el Ydna.

¿Te han dado alguna estimación étnica los de Nebula?

Eres mala gente publicado precisamente hoy esto, porque hoy he cobrado la nómina.

Defcon2
03-30-2022, 07:59 PM
Me suena que subir los datos en crudo del mtdna para incluir tu sample en el Ytree es gratis en Yfull si ya pagaste por subir el Ydna.

¿Te han dado alguna estimación étnica los de Nebula?

Eres mala gente publicado precisamente hoy esto, porque hoy he cobrado la nómina.

Según pone con Nebula todo lo relacionado con el mtdna es gratis pero lo del y-dna es de pago salvo la propia estimación del haplogrupo, y bueno tienes unos 3 meses gratis de posicionamiento en el árbol.

Estimación étnica no pero raw datas a punta pala:

https://i.imgur.com/Mcjnmxr.jpg

Han analizado hasta las bacterias de mi saliva, todo esto es lo que tengo en mi boca xD

https://i.imgur.com/E3R4eH9.png

gixajo
03-30-2022, 10:07 PM
Según pone con Nebula todo lo relacionado con el mtdna es gratis pero lo del y-dna es de pago salvo la propia estimación del haplogrupo, y bueno tienes unos 3 meses gratis de posicionamiento en el árbol.

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¿Te dicen el grupo sanguíneo?

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 04:55 AM
¿Te dicen el grupo sanguíneo?

Supongo que buscando los snps, ya lo miraré.

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 11:57 AM
Supongo que buscando los snps, ya lo miraré.

Va ser difícil sin ayuda, el genome browser es complejo de leer.

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 06:56 PM
El haplogrupo materno no lo has subido?

https://www.yfull.com/mtree/V6b1b/

Bueno, te cuento, resulta que tenía los mensajes de Yfull en la carpeta de no deseados pues es necesario crear la cuenta allí, ahora tiene puesto la región y todo. No he podido pagar por un problema que tienen asi que tocará esperar.

Soy V6b1b emparejado con un danés.

gixajo
03-31-2022, 07:08 PM
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/V6b1b/

Bueno, te cuento, resulta que tenía los mensajes de Yfull en la carpeta de no deseados pues es necesario crear la cuenta allí, ahora tiene puesto la región y todo. No he podido pagar por un problema que tienen asi que tocará esperar.

Soy V6b1b emparejado con un danés.

V6b1b+E1b1a=escandiNABO

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 07:21 PM
V6b1b+E1b1a=escandiNABO

Es el haplo mas joven de los V6 existentes!!

formed 1200 ybp, TMRCA 750 ybp

mitalit
03-31-2022, 08:04 PM
https://www.yfull.com/mtree/V6b1b/

Bueno, te cuento, resulta que tenía los mensajes de Yfull en la carpeta de no deseados pues es necesario crear la cuenta allí, ahora tiene puesto la región y todo. No he podido pagar por un problema que tienen asi que tocará esperar.

Soy V6b1b emparejado con un danés.

Asi me gusta, conquistando fronteras. Poniendo la banderita de españa junto a senegal y junto a los daneses

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 08:35 PM
Si creo una cuenta en Anthroflanders me la chaparán? :(

mitalit
03-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Si creo una cuenta en Anthroflanders me la chaparán? :(

descárgate un vpn en una extension en google chrome y te la creas. Creo que te banean la ip

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 09:13 PM
descárgate un vpn en una extension en google chrome y te la creas. Creo que te banean la ip

Han quitado la posibilidad de registro? no encuentro para registrarme.

Va como el culo, tampoco me envían el email de recordar contraseña de una cuenta mas antigua que me creé :mad:

mitalit
03-31-2022, 09:26 PM
Han quitado la posibilidad de registro? no encuentro para registrarme.

Va como el culo, tampoco me envían el email de recordar contraseña de una cuenta mas antigua que me creé :mad:

Ni idea, pero no me sorprendería

Defcon2
03-31-2022, 09:40 PM
Posibles grupos donde pedir el ingreso, en el primero podría farmear haplogrupos de españoles o incluso pedir kits de gedmatch o loquesea:

https://i.imgur.com/460ViYE.jpg

En este no sé si solo aceptan a africanos, pero por haplo debería!

https://i.imgur.com/qkDnfse.jpg

Defcon2
04-02-2022, 05:54 PM
Intentona de calculadora antigua compuesta por (principalmente) muestras ibéricas "auténticas e indígenas" hasta el momento en la categoría ibérica.


Iberian:Iberia_North_IA:I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0. 063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203,0.126344, 0.14319,0.051288,0.021641,0.037238,-0.005299,0.00094,0.004846,0.024747,0.026971,-0.003897,0.008992,-0.025272,-0.026011,0.008822,0.004906,0.012126,-0.003547,0.003268,0.003627,0.007487,0.000618,-0.001972,0.004458,-0.00467
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209,0.12862,0 .145221,0.054682,0.013243,0.043393,0.009761,-0.001175,0.006,0.026384,0.033167,-0.006658,0.018434,-0.016501,-0.023121,0.011401,0.004508,0.005085,0.000127,0.003 897,-0.009254,0.001123,0.00507,0.002218,-0.009881,0.008263
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214,0.130897, 0.138112,0.058454,0.026809,0.046162,0.008367,-0.001175,-0.004154,0.016771,0.030069,-0.001624,0.009741,-0.022299,-0.014588,0.010586,0.00769,0.002868,0.002787,0.0036 45,0.001376,0.011105,0.006801,-0.00986,-0.012893,0.005628
North_Europe:Bell_Beaker_NLD,0.1284778,0.1228792,0 .0626964,0.07 32402,0.024543,0.0242984,0.0004994,0.003346,-0.0082066,-0.0132576,-0.0051356,0.0029222,-0.0081208,-0.014588,0.0251934,0.0100105,-0.0060466,-0.0022011,0.0012412,0.0072378,0.005849,0.0026894,0 .0002158,0.0061454,-0.000464
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.0081 7367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533
Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42,0.079676,0. 149283,-0.061094,-0.091409,-0.011079,-0.028168,-0.003525,-0.010153,0.01309,0.010023,0.006171,-0.002548,0.01219,0.004266,-0.009229,0.007292,-0.001173,0.002027,0.004399,0.001251,-0.001248,0.008285,0.001849,0,-0.001916
Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185


Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.5077% / 0.03507693
62.6 Iberian
16.2 Mediterranean
13.6 Berber
7.6 North_Europe

Beowulf
04-03-2022, 06:52 PM
hola solo por curiosidad cuales son vuestros resultados de my true ancestry? :)

los mios: https://imgur.com/a/e5TDIzG

Defcon2
04-03-2022, 09:57 PM
Ni idea, pero no me sorprendería

Me cobraron el mes de la suscripción de Nebula, pensé que era gratis el primero. :confused:

Gallop
04-03-2022, 10:02 PM
hola solo por curiosidad cuales son vuestros resultados de my true ancestry? :)

los mios: https://imgur.com/a/e5TDIzG

Ellos son muy del G25:rolleyes:

El mío:

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi1D6ytt7rHmUZPS--ckAZd1KHEPi_5a6tXVMwQChicDKQYjXLGvbKiJMNefJwSToylX qqlhGVOXnBxuktUIysR5i9TibvrEqBAwFK4Ee3dyrj0YKH_KSH 3b67zsWiTGeUx9WmHhVxoq331q5hH9a3N96jqOS0FQlvoccKkY _RHzs7MMzo3R60X_4MT/s478/rosconancientsampleAbril.2022.jpeg

Pedro Ruben
04-03-2022, 10:16 PM
Intentona de calculadora antigua compuesta por (principalmente) muestras ibéricas "auténticas e indígenas" hasta el momento en la categoría ibérica.


Iberian:Iberia_North_IA:I3759,0.125205,0.140143,0. 063356,0.009044,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8203,0.126344, 0.14319,0.051288,0.021641,0.037238,-0.005299,0.00094,0.004846,0.024747,0.026971,-0.003897,0.008992,-0.025272,-0.026011,0.008822,0.004906,0.012126,-0.003547,0.003268,0.003627,0.007487,0.000618,-0.001972,0.004458,-0.00467
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8209,0.12862,0 .145221,0.054682,0.013243,0.043393,0.009761,-0.001175,0.006,0.026384,0.033167,-0.006658,0.018434,-0.016501,-0.023121,0.011401,0.004508,0.005085,0.000127,0.003 897,-0.009254,0.001123,0.00507,0.002218,-0.009881,0.008263
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1:I8214,0.130897, 0.138112,0.058454,0.026809,0.046162,0.008367,-0.001175,-0.004154,0.016771,0.030069,-0.001624,0.009741,-0.022299,-0.014588,0.010586,0.00769,0.002868,0.002787,0.0036 45,0.001376,0.011105,0.006801,-0.00986,-0.012893,0.005628
North_Europe:Bell_Beaker_NLD,0.1284778,0.1228792,0 .0626964,0.07 32402,0.024543,0.0242984,0.0004994,0.003346,-0.0082066,-0.0132576,-0.0051356,0.0029222,-0.0081208,-0.014588,0.0251934,0.0100105,-0.0060466,-0.0022011,0.0012412,0.0072378,0.005849,0.0026894,0 .0002158,0.0061454,-0.000464
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.0081 7367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533
Mediterranean:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR42,0.079676,0. 149283,-0.061094,-0.091409,-0.011079,-0.028168,-0.003525,-0.010153,0.01309,0.010023,0.006171,-0.002548,0.01219,0.004266,-0.009229,0.007292,-0.001173,0.002027,0.004399,0.001251,-0.001248,0.008285,0.001849,0,-0.001916
Mediterranean:GRC_Mycenaean,0.107847,0.1563915,-0.008108,-0.0646808,0.0216962,-0.0271222,-0.0005288,-0.0021345,0.00542,0.047336,0.005521,0.0169352,-0.012785,-0.0006195,-0.0163882,-0.0098118,0.0210245,0.0036108,0.0123188,-0.0039705,-0.0058648,0.0001858,-0.0065935,0.0011448,-0.0007185


Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.5077% / 0.03507693
62.6 Iberian
16.2 Mediterranean
13.6 Berber
7.6 North_Europe

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 2.5436% / 0.02543634
49.8 Iberian
20.8 North_Europe
18.4 Berber
11.0 Mediterranean

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 2.7061% / 0.02706127
53.2 Iberian
24.4 Berber
14.0 North_Europe
8.4 Mediterranean

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.1574% / 0.02157417
68.0 Iberian
15.6 Berber
8.8 North_Europe
7.6 Mediterranean

Gallop
04-03-2022, 10:23 PM
Estaba chafardeando en el hilo de acentos y me preguntaba si no hay un hilo de acentos para hispanoparlantes.

gixajo
04-04-2022, 03:04 PM
Si creo una cuenta en Anthroflanders me la chaparán? :(

Si entras diciendo "Hola holita, vecinillos" creo que te dejarán entrar.

gixajo
04-04-2022, 03:05 PM
Estaba chafardeando en el hilo de acentos y me preguntaba si no hay un hilo de acentos para hispanoparlantes.

Me suena que alguno había, pero con la mierda de motor de búsqueda que tiene este foro, tendrás suerte si lo encuentras.

gixajo
04-04-2022, 03:12 PM
hola solo por curiosidad cuales son vuestros resultados de my true ancestry? :)

los mios: rl]

Deep dive:
https://i.postimg.cc/sXt7T9Db/MTAancient1.png (https://postimages.org/)

Spider:
https://i.postimg.cc/8cSsFyCk/mtaspider.png (https://postimages.org/)

Ancient samples breakdown:

https://i.postimg.cc/1X1cB382/mtaancientbreakdown.png (https://postimages.org/)

Closest ancientpopulations:


Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (4.594)
Aquitani + Illyrian (4.638)
Rhaeti + Illyrian (5.426)
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.494)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.009)
Gallo-Roman (7.995)
Visigoth (8.182)
Aquitani (8.741)
Illyrian (8.856)
Rhaeti (9.27)

Closest modern populations:


1. Spanish_Cantabria (4.357)
2. Southwest_French (4.930)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (6.283)
4. Spanish_Aragon (6.486)
5. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.513)
6. Spanish_Valencia (7.676)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (7.774)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (8.285)

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 09:02 AM
hola estoy haciendo una calculadora antigua basada en k13 si os gustrai probar aqui teneis la fuente(hay pocas aun pero estoy haciendo ya se añadiran mas)

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_VisigothEra,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60, 5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03


Distance to: ivan
6.22926962 Andalusia_VisigothEra
16.43117768 Celtiberian_200BC
17.84638619 Medieval_Frank
19.56184552 Celtic_Iberia
23.13902764 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
28.96394483 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.07829087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
33.42804810 Corded_Ware_Germany
33.83150898 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
33.89039244 Longobard
34.03574151 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
36.02161018 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
37.17841444 Saxon_England
41.76131942 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.16502935 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
43.07532472 Scythian
45.76515268 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
57.88482098 Motala_Sweden_2
60.91729639 Motala_Sweden_1
61.69675842 Motala_Sweden_3






Target: ivan
Distance: 151.7377% / 1.51737675
41.0 Celtic_Iberia
25.8 Andalusia_VisigothEra
18.8 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
4.6 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
3.2 Motala_Sweden_1
2.8 Scythian
2.0 Motala_Sweden_2
1.8 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA

gixajo
04-07-2022, 09:34 AM
Target: gixajo
Distance: 4.8811% / 4.88113483
53.0 Celtiberian_200BC
41.5 Andalusia_VisigothEra
5.4 Scythian
0.1 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 3.2078% / 3.20777438
68.2 Andalusia_VisigothEra
27.1 Celtiberian_200BC
3.4 Scythian
1.3 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.3915% / 2.39147738
71.8 Celtiberian_200BC
14.8 Celtic_Iberia
7.2 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
6.2 Andalusia_VisigothEra

Distancias:

Distance to: gixajo
9.61033818 Celtiberian_200BC
11.84607952 Andalusia_VisigothEra
17.00673396 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
19.14414271 Celtic_Iberia
20.56773930 Medieval_Frank
24.00120414 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.25574413 Bronze_Age_Briton
30.39458504 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.20995514 Longobard
31.53401814 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.20893304 Saxon_England
37.29738597 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
40.94967155 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
41.09603631 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
43.63309295 Scythian
44.78580802 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
46.69885545 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
57.96215058 Motala_Sweden_2
61.11943881 Motala_Sweden_1
62.08702763 Motala_Sweden_3

Distance to: gixajo_dad
6.31203612 Andalusia_VisigothEra
13.61325090 Celtiberian_200BC
21.27486075 Medieval_Frank
21.30207032 Celtic_Iberia
21.52610973 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
28.36536973 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
29.89975752 Bronze_Age_Briton
32.82096891 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
34.09696174 Corded_Ware_Germany
34.80064224 Longobard
35.15098718 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
35.96491624 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
38.00773737 Saxon_England
41.89623253 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
43.41689303 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
45.31884376 Scythian
47.56215092 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
59.74622247 Motala_Sweden_2
62.81244940 Motala_Sweden_1
63.62955131 Motala_Sweden_3

Distance to: gixajo_mom
5.45093570 Celtiberian_200BC
13.96301901 Andalusia_VisigothEra
14.13078554 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
17.34756755 Celtic_Iberia
21.32567467 Medieval_Frank
22.01489723 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
24.96312480 Bronze_Age_Briton
30.04197896 Corded_Ware_Germany
30.66195036 Longobard
30.94214278 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
33.04507830 Saxon_England
38.84419776 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
41.62497447 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.80167871 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
45.23013708 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
45.88690336 Scythian
48.57030574 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
58.22497574 Motala_Sweden_2
61.44407294 Motala_Sweden_1
62.56497662 Motala_Sweden_3

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 10:06 AM
veo que va bien mirare de sacar mas muestras de la alta edad media si encontrais alguna de un godo algo mas puro me la podreis pasar? xd

Gallop
04-07-2022, 10:41 AM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 611.2706% / 6.11270584
52.8 Celtiberian_200BC
19.8 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
14.2 Scythian
13.0 Celtic_Iberia
0.2 Andalusia_VisigothEra

Target: Gallop
Distance: 642.5276% / 6.42527593 | R3P
65.2 Celtiberian_200BC
18.4 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
16.4 Scythian

Target: Father
Distance: 348.9722% / 3.48972190
28.4 Celtic_Iberia
27.0 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
25.0 Celtiberian_200BC
13.0 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
6.6 Andalusia_VisigothEra

Target: Father
Distance: 417.3168% / 4.17316799 | R3P
59.6 Andalusia_VisigothEra
32.2 Celtiberian_200BC
8.2 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland

Distance to: Father
9.59506123 Andalusia_VisigothEra
11.65723809 Celtiberian_200BC
18.36215401 Medieval_Frank
18.43645845 Celtic_Iberia
18.85654793 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.47066941 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.62070059 Bronze_Age_Briton
31.15079453 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.74810388 Longobard
31.98678008 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.85910355 Saxon_England
35.69406113 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
38.81100359 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
40.36039891 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
43.31375763 Scythian
44.70540124 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
44.77012620 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
57.35393361 Motala_Sweden_2
60.47065900 Motala_Sweden_1
61.38260829 Motala_Sweden_3


Distance to: Gallop
11.29081928 Celtiberian_200BC
13.34744170 Andalusia_VisigothEra
18.24362902 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
19.13757038 Celtic_Iberia
19.74430804 Medieval_Frank
24.84634380 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.11725675 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.98450266 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.18941647 Longobard
31.23236943 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.12931731 Saxon_England
37.69083178 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
40.54404025 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
41.35501904 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
41.53318432 Scythian
44.14038514 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
47.07100063 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
58.98842005 Motala_Sweden_2
62.16381906 Motala_Sweden_1
63.12798429 Motala_Sweden_3

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 11:02 AM
acabo de añadir un par mas interesantes:
Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00






Target: ivan
Distance: 152.8598% / 1.52859849
38.0 Celtic_Iberia
22.4 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
13.2 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
12.0 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
8.2 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
4.6 Ancient_Norway
1.6 Thracian_Bulgarian


Target: M
Distance: 171.7940% / 1.71794047
39.0 Celtic_Iberia
29.6 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
15.8 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
10.4 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
2.6 Etruscan
2.6 Scythian





distancias:
Distance to: M
8.97400134 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
14.27180087 Celtiberian_200BC
15.89155436 Celtic_Iberia
16.87934240 Medieval_Frank
20.50927839 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.64161656 Thracian_Bulgarian
25.85201153 Lusitanian_Portugal
26.25862144 Bronze_Age_Briton
26.47431397 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.62705579 Neolithic_Denmark
28.02534746 Celtic_Briton
31.11684913 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.35205256 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
31.60804644 Longobard
34.36225837 Saxon_England
34.36225837 Anglo_Saxon
35.70963595 Etruscan
36.91247621 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
39.38124808 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
40.24471767 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
41.92657510 Scythian
44.11158918 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
45.60666179 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
50.12551745 Mesolthic_Britain
57.41776380 Motala_Sweden_2

Grace O'Malley
04-07-2022, 11:39 AM
hola estoy haciendo una calculadora antigua basada en k13 si os gustrai probar aqui teneis la fuente(hay pocas aun pero estoy haciendo ya se añadiran mas)

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_VisigothEra,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60, 5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03


Distance to: ivan
6.22926962 Andalusia_VisigothEra
16.43117768 Celtiberian_200BC
17.84638619 Medieval_Frank
19.56184552 Celtic_Iberia
23.13902764 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
28.96394483 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.07829087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
33.42804810 Corded_Ware_Germany
33.83150898 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
33.89039244 Longobard
34.03574151 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
36.02161018 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
37.17841444 Saxon_England
41.76131942 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.16502935 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
43.07532472 Scythian
45.76515268 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
57.88482098 Motala_Sweden_2
60.91729639 Motala_Sweden_1
61.69675842 Motala_Sweden_3






Target: ivan
Distance: 151.7377% / 1.51737675
41.0 Celtic_Iberia
25.8 Andalusia_VisigothEra
18.8 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
4.6 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
3.2 Motala_Sweden_1
2.8 Scythian
2.0 Motala_Sweden_2
1.8 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA

Just tried your calc.

Distance to: Grace
3.85930045 Bronze_Age_Briton
6.26498204 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
6.80601939 Corded_Ware_Germany
7.21944596 Longobard
7.25382658 Saxon_England
11.26518087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
17.12164420 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
18.66499665 Celtic_Iberia
18.70432036 Medieval_Frank
20.62692173 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
21.41487100 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
24.76628151 Celtiberian_200BC
30.95827676 Scythian
36.08612614 Andalusia_VisigothEra
39.91440843 Motala_Sweden_2
43.35523844 Motala_Sweden_1
44.98747715 Motala_Sweden_3
63.36637673 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
66.26460216 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
71.99624990 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.0319% / 2.03193484
40.7 Saxon_England
23.2 Bronze_Age_Briton
10.9 Corded_Ware_Germany
9.9 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
8.5 Celtic_Iberia
6.8 Scythian

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.1607% / 2.16072650 | ADC: 0.25x RC
29.5 Bronze_Age_Briton
28.8 Saxon_England
23.8 Corded_Ware_Germany
12.5 Celtic_Iberia
2.7 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
2.7 Scythian

With the second version quite close distances.

Distance to: Grace
2.98451001 Celtic_Briton
3.85930045 Bronze_Age_Briton
6.26498204 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
6.80601939 Corded_Ware_Germany
7.21944596 Longobard
7.25382658 Saxon_England
7.25382658 Anglo_Saxon
10.45372183 Neolithic_Denmark
11.26518087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
17.12164420 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
18.66499665 Celtic_Iberia
18.70432036 Medieval_Frank
20.62692173 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
21.41487100 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
24.76628151 Celtiberian_200BC
28.14676358 Mesolthic_Britain
30.95827676 Scythian
36.08612614 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
39.91440843 Motala_Sweden_2
42.11165991 Lusitanian_Portugal
43.35523844 Motala_Sweden_1
44.98747715 Motala_Sweden_3
45.67882551 Ancient_Norway
50.52517491 Thracian_Bulgarian
58.65186698 Etruscan


Target: Grace
Distance: 1.4249% / 1.42485740
41.3 Celtic_Briton
31.7 Bronze_Age_Briton
14.4 Anglo_Saxon
4.7 Saxon_England
4.4 Scythian
3.5 Celtic_Iberia

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.4249% / 1.42485740 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.3 Celtic_Briton
31.7 Bronze_Age_Briton
19.1 Saxon_England
4.4 Scythian
3.5 Celtic_Iberia

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 11:41 AM
cool results thanks for using it ;) later i will post the new source with new samples

i added some new samples if you wanna try it:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00

Grace O'Malley
04-07-2022, 11:47 AM
cool results thanks for using it ;) later i will post the new source with new samples

i added some new samples if you wanna try it:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00

Great calculator. Thanks for making it. :)

Distance to: Grace
2.97544955 Pre_Roman_Briton
2.98451001 Celtic_Briton
3.85930045 Bronze_Age_Briton
6.26498204 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
6.80601939 Corded_Ware_Germany
7.21944596 Longobard
7.25382658 Saxon_England
7.25382658 Anglo_Saxon
10.45372183 Neolithic_Denmark
11.26518087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
17.12164420 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
18.66499665 Celtic_Iberia
18.70432036 Medieval_Frank
20.62692173 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
21.41487100 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
24.76628151 Celtiberian_200BC
27.92100285 Dacian_Romania
28.14676358 Mesolthic_Britain
30.95827676 Scythian
36.08612614 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
39.91440843 Motala_Sweden_2
42.11165991 Lusitanian_Portugal
43.35523844 Motala_Sweden_1
44.98747715 Motala_Sweden_3
45.67882551 Ancient_Norway


Target: Grace
Distance: 1.4249% / 1.42485740
41.3 Celtic_Briton
31.7 Bronze_Age_Briton
11.8 Saxon_England
7.3 Anglo_Saxon
4.4 Scythian
3.5 Celtic_Iberia


Target: Grace
Distance: 1.4249% / 1.42485740 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.3 Celtic_Briton
31.7 Bronze_Age_Briton
19.1 Anglo_Saxon
4.4 Scythian
3.5 Celtic_Iberia

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.7027% / 1.70267285 | ADC: 0.5x RC
45.0 Celtic_Briton
34.1 Bronze_Age_Briton
20.9 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA

Gallop
04-07-2022, 11:57 AM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 611.2706% / 6.11270584
52.8 Celtiberian_200BC
19.8 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
14.2 Scythian
13.0 Celtic_Iberia
0.2 Andalusia_VisigothEra

Target: Gallop
Distance: 642.5276% / 6.42527593 | R3P
65.2 Celtiberian_200BC
18.4 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
16.4 Scythian

Target: Father
Distance: 348.9722% / 3.48972190
28.4 Celtic_Iberia
27.0 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
25.0 Celtiberian_200BC
13.0 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
6.6 Andalusia_VisigothEra

Target: Father
Distance: 417.3168% / 4.17316799 | R3P
59.6 Andalusia_VisigothEra
32.2 Celtiberian_200BC
8.2 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland

Distance to: Father
9.59506123 Andalusia_VisigothEra
11.65723809 Celtiberian_200BC
18.36215401 Medieval_Frank
18.43645845 Celtic_Iberia
18.85654793 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.47066941 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.62070059 Bronze_Age_Briton
31.15079453 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.74810388 Longobard
31.98678008 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.85910355 Saxon_England
35.69406113 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
38.81100359 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
40.36039891 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
43.31375763 Scythian
44.70540124 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
44.77012620 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
57.35393361 Motala_Sweden_2
60.47065900 Motala_Sweden_1
61.38260829 Motala_Sweden_3


Distance to: Gallop
11.29081928 Celtiberian_200BC
13.34744170 Andalusia_VisigothEra
18.24362902 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
19.13757038 Celtic_Iberia
19.74430804 Medieval_Frank
24.84634380 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
26.11725675 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.98450266 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.18941647 Longobard
31.23236943 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.12931731 Saxon_England
37.69083178 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
40.54404025 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
41.35501904 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
41.53318432 Scythian
44.14038514 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
47.07100063 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
58.98842005 Motala_Sweden_2
62.16381906 Motala_Sweden_1
63.12798429 Motala_Sweden_3

Con las nuevas muestras añadidas


Target: Gallop
Distance: 311.0810% / 3.11080953
32.2 Lusitanian_Portugal
22.0 Celtic_Iberia
17.4 Scythian
11.6 Etruscan
10.4 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
3.4 Thracian_Bulgarian
3.0 Celtic_Briton

Target: Gallop
Distance: 397.9359% / 3.97935903 | R3P
44.2 Celtic_Iberia
38.6 Etruscan
17.2 Scythian

Target: Father
Distance: 327.4078% / 3.27407820
32.0 Celtic_Iberia
20.0 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
16.4 Lusitanian_Portugal
16.2 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
7.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
4.6 Celtiberian_200BC
3.6 Etruscan


Target: Father
Distance: 417.3168% / 4.17316799 | R3P
59.6 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
32.2 Celtiberian_200BC
8.2 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland

Distance to: Father
9.59506123 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
11.65723809 Celtiberian_200BC
18.36215401 Medieval_Frank
18.43645845 Celtic_Iberia
18.85654793 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
22.48865047 Lusitanian_Portugal
25.47066941 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.62824614 Neolithic_Denmark
26.62070059 Bronze_Age_Briton
27.48612741 Thracian_Bulgarian
28.28985330 Celtic_Briton
31.15079453 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.74810388 Longobard
31.98678008 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
32.95883796 Etruscan
34.85910355 Saxon_England
34.85910355 Anglo_Saxon
35.69406113 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
38.81100359 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
40.36039891 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
43.31375763 Scythian
44.70540124 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
44.77012620 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
50.29184427 Mesolthic_Britain
57.35393361 Motala_Sweden_2
60.47065900 Motala_Sweden_1
61.03463115 Ancient_Norway
61.38260829 Motala_Sweden_3


Distance to: Gallop
11.29081928 Celtiberian_200BC
13.34744170 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
18.24362902 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
19.13757038 Celtic_Iberia
19.74430804 Medieval_Frank
20.08025896 Lusitanian_Portugal
24.84634380 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.34554004 Neolithic_Denmark
26.11725675 Bronze_Age_Briton
26.62323046 Celtic_Briton
29.98450266 Corded_Ware_Germany
30.32343978 Thracian_Bulgarian
31.18941647 Longobard
31.23236943 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
32.53871540 Etruscan
34.12931731 Saxon_England
34.12931731 Anglo_Saxon
37.69083178 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
40.54404025 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
41.35501904 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
41.53318432 Scythian
44.14038514 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
47.07100063 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
51.44734784 Mesolthic_Britain
58.98842005 Motala_Sweden_2
62.16381906 Motala_Sweden_1
62.81954473 Ancient_Norway
63.12798429 Motala_Sweden_3

gixajo
04-07-2022, 12:08 PM
veo que va bien mirare de sacar mas muestras de la alta edad media si encontrais alguna de un godo algo mas puro me la podreis pasar? xd

No sé si le irá bien a todo el mundo, pero con mis padres y conmigo ha funcionado muy bien.

No sé si están en el K13, pero debe haber unos Goth_Kowalenko por ahí, que serían como un tipo de godos originales antes de venirse al Sur, pero deben ser bastante "eslavos", así que igual no nos funcionan muy bien.

Gallop
04-07-2022, 12:10 PM
Andalusian woman of the networks

No aparecen la web con todo el pack de calculadoras.

Target: Andalusian-Woman
Distance: 195.5399% / 1.95539891
48.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
20.2 Celtic_Iberia
11.4 Celtic_Briton
8.0 Etruscan
8.0 Lusitanian_Portugal
4.2 Scythian

Target: Andalusian-Woman
Distance: 258.9906% / 2.58990562 | R3P
66.0 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
23.6 Celtic_Briton
10.4 Lusitanian_Portugal

Distance to: Andalusian-Woman
9.36749700 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
11.71920646 Celtiberian_200BC
16.99285144 Celtic_Iberia
18.33685633 Medieval_Frank
18.70883748 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
22.43387171 Lusitanian_Portugal
25.24195317 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.72143853 Neolithic_Denmark
26.06998466 Bronze_Age_Briton
27.20683002 Celtic_Briton
27.79845319 Thracian_Bulgarian
30.60837794 Corded_Ware_Germany
31.41790095 Longobard
31.42813867 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
33.58770311 Etruscan
34.15628054 Saxon_England
34.15628054 Anglo_Saxon
36.77658766 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
39.84001004 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
40.59904679 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.69429939 Scythian
44.35904192 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
45.89008063 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
50.55522921 Mesolthic_Britain
57.96985510 Motala_Sweden_2

Gallop
04-07-2022, 12:22 PM
Target: Gallop
Distance: 287.8118% / 2.87811791
28.6 Lusitanian_Portugal
18.6 Celtic_Briton
15.2 Celtic_Iberia
12.6 Etruscan
12.0 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
10.2 Avar1824
2.8 Scythian

Me mejora la distancia con esta muestra de la élite avara.
Avar1824,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8.65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57

Target: Gallop
Distance: 411.0181% / 4.11018060 | R3P
43.6 Lusitanian_Portugal
33.8 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
22.6 Scythian

de Burgh II
04-07-2022, 01:14 PM
Distance to: de_Burgh_II
6.94119586 Bronze_Age_Briton
8.01897126 Celtic_Briton
8.07873134 Pre_Roman_Briton
10.07762373 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
11.05143882 Neolithic_Denmark
11.24044928 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
12.56871911 Corded_Ware_Germany
12.80501464 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
13.15134594 Celtic_Iberia
13.43330935 Longobard
14.92361886 Saxon_England
14.92361886 Anglo_Saxon
14.96493234 Medieval_Frank
17.05491425 Celtiberian_200BC
22.92895549 Dacian_Romania
26.23257708 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
28.17351416 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
28.72710393 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
33.50300434 Scythian
34.40261763 Lusitanian_Portugal
34.82231325 Mesolthic_Britain
44.07913225 Thracian_Bulgarian
45.49386552 Motala_Sweden_2
48.92147279 Motala_Sweden_1
50.37845075 Motala_Sweden_3

Target: de_Burgh_II
Distance: 137.6644% / 1.37664412
40.8 Bronze_Age_Briton
18.2 Celtic_Briton
16.2 Celtic_Iberia
13.4 Lusitanian_Portugal
6.4 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
5.0 Scythian

gixajo
04-07-2022, 02:00 PM
Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00



Target: gixajo
Distance: 2.9016% / 2.90161147
46.1 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
29.2 Lusitanian_Portugal
20.2 Celtic_Briton
4.5 Scythian

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.2400% / 2.23999260
70.0 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
18.6 Lusitanian_Portugal
6.9 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
1.7 Celtic_Briton
1.4 Celtic_Iberia
1.4 Scythian

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 1.0051% / 1.00511650
25.7 Lusitanian_Portugal
22.7 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
21.3 Celtic_Iberia
20.2 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
10.1 Celtiberian_200BC

Parece que el Lusitanian se come al Celtiberian, y descompensa un poco todo lo demás.

Distance to: Lusitanian_Portugal
11.43458788 French_Basque
19.09432638 Southwest_French
19.09817007 Spanish_Aragon
20.03136790 Spanish_Cantabria
21.35236755 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
22.23112908 Spanish_Andalucia
23.33876389 Spanish_Valencia
24.03996256 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
24.39571274 Spanish_Cataluna
24.50754374 Spanish_Murcia

Target: Lusitanian_Portugal
Distance: 7.7053% / 7.70533416
78.4 French_Basque
21.6 Sardinian

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 02:03 PM
hola añadi muestras vikingas escandinavas:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Neolthic_Bulgaria,42.22,18.06,38.15,0.00,1.57,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87

gixajo
04-07-2022, 02:24 PM
Si quieres medir el aporte del norte de Europa, nada más fácil que poner muestra(s) de la Edad de Hierro ibéricas+muestras germánica(s) o escandinava(s)+grecorromano(s)l+ norteafricano.

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 02:28 PM
eso intentare solo que justo las muestras de la edad de hierro son las que mas me cuesta de encontrar al menos las que son de francia, iberia, italia, grecia, y del norte de africa no hay casi nada

Beowulf
04-07-2022, 03:15 PM
bueno mas o menos ya esta terminado mañana o luego seguire actualizando muestras:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Lusitanian_Portugal,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Neolthic_Bulgaria,42.22,18.06,38.15,0.00,1.57,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87
Medieval_Foggia_Italy,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80 ,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
Danish_Viking,51.2,30.17,6.5,0.89,2.25,2.32,2.59,0 .4,1.12,0.72,0.75,0.75,0.35
Bell_Beaker_North_Italy,53.15,11.00,31.95,0.00,2.3 1,1.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Bell_Beaker_South_France,68.26,20.22,11.51,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Hallsttat,38.92,32.48,18.46,0.09,6.51,0.00, 0.00,0.42,0.00,1.96,1.17,0.00,0.00
Roman_Mix_Greek,17.03,1.66,19.44,20.33,31.48,6.62, 0.00,1.01,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.96,0.66
Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian,34.10,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0.00,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0.00
Iberia_Calcolthic,43.03,0.00,56.86,0.00,0.11,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Anatolian_Hunter_Gatherer,17.13,0.00,50.28,0.00,28 .89,3.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Avar1824,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8.65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57


mama:
Target: M
Distance: 149.3448% / 1.49344750
46.8 Celtic_Iberia
25.8 Anatolian_Hunter_Gatherer
12.4 Danish_Viking
6.6 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
4.4 Pre_Celtic_Spain
4.0 Scythian

yo:
Target: ivan
Distance: 129.4446% / 1.29444623
29.6 Celtic_Iberia
21.8 Danish_Viking
15.0 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
14.6 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
7.6 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
6.6 Anatolian_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Medieval_Foggia_Italy

papa:
Target: papa
Distance: 170.5685% / 1.70568544
33.4 Celtic_Iberia
20.8 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
12.6 Iberia_Calcolthic
10.4 Swedish_Viking
9.8 Lusitanian_Portugal
7.6 Roman_Mix_Greek
3.4 Dacian_Romania
2.0 Scythian



Por cierto os agradezco mucho que la hallais probado y dado vuestra opinion es la primer que hago y me gustaria llevarlo a mas con el tiempo

Beowulf
04-08-2022, 10:02 AM
Eh añadido muestras ilirias galoromanas y galas de buena calidad a ver que tal os funcionan:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Bronze_Age_Iberia,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Neolthic_Bulgaria,42.22,18.06,38.15,0.00,1.57,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87
Medieval_Foggia_Italy,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80 ,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
Danish_Viking,51.20,30.17,6.5,0.89,2.25,2.32,2.59, 0.4,1.12,0.72,0.75,0.75,0.35
Bell_Beaker_North_Italy,53.15,11.00,31.95,0.00,2.3 1,1.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Bell_Beaker_South_France,68.26,20.22,11.51,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Hallsttat,38.92,32.48,18.46,0.09,6.51,0.00, 0.00,0.42,0.00,1.96,1.17,0.00,0.00
Roman_Mix_Greek,17.03,1.66,19.44,20.33,31.48,6.62, 0.00,1.01,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.96,0.66
Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian,34.10,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0.00,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0.00
Iberia_Calcolthic,43.03,0.00,56.86,0.00,0.11,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Avar_Elite,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8. 65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57
North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer,30.35,63.54,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gaul_Continental_Celt,46.43,22.51,14.80,5.46,3.01, 0.00,4.55,0.00,1.01,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.80
Greek_Empuries,17.76,1.64,31.49,9.14,35.44,4.14,0. 00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Celt_Alpine,39.50,17.21,24.82,0.86,12.42,1.1 4,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.97,0.76,0.18
Illyrian_Dalmatia,36.73,13.11,23.57,8.04,15.67,2.8 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Illyrian,34.32,11.00,26.54,8.45,18.52,0.92,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gallo_Roman,35.68,11.93,29.76,4.90,11.58,1.78,0.56 ,0.3,0.13,0.05,0.21,0.04,3.08

distancias:
Distance to: ivan
6.22926962 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
7.46198365 Gallo_Roman
7.92369863 Proto_Celt_Alpine
8.30324635 Illyrian_Dalmatia
8.78940840 Proto_Illyrian
11.36531566 Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian
14.70460812 Dacian_Romania
16.43117768 Celtiberian_200BC
17.84638619 Medieval_Frank
19.56184552 Celtic_Iberia
20.69483510 Neolthic_Bulgaria
20.88363714 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
22.54660950 Bell_Beaker_North_Italy
22.63798578 Thracian_Bulgarian
23.13902764 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
23.94597670 Gaul_Continental_Celt
24.84685694 Celtic_Hallsttat
25.13459767 Medieval_Foggia_Italy
26.49444093 Bronze_Age_Iberia
28.71084464 Neolithic_Denmark
28.96394483 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.07829087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
30.21737414 Celtic_Gladiator_York
30.29674570 Greek_Empuries
30.93049628 Celtic_Briton
30.97391806 Pre_Roman_Briton
33.42804810 Corded_Ware_Germany
33.83150898 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
33.89039244 Longobard
34.01680467 Etruscan
34.03574151 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.04392604 Roman_Mix_Greek
34.18854925 Danish_Viking
35.66025238 Swedish_Viking
36.02161018 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
36.22749508 Norwegian_Viking
36.79742111 Iberia_Calcolthic
37.08427834 Bronze_Age_Hungary
37.17841444 Saxon_England
37.17841444 Anglo_Saxon
39.96420148 Slavic_Viking_Era
40.03264543 Bell_Beaker_South_France
40.70247658 Pre_Celtic_Spain
41.76131942 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.16502935 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
43.07532472 Scythian
44.53458880 Avar_Elite
45.76515268 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
51.55292038 Mesolthic_Britain
57.88482098 Motala_Sweden_2
60.91729639 Motala_Sweden_1
61.16384880 Ancient_Norway
61.16384880 North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer
61.69675842 Motala_Sweden_3



Target: ivan
Distance: 131.0036% / 1.31003607
23.6 Celtic_Iberia
22.8 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
17.6 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
12.6 Danish_Viking
7.8 Proto_Celt_Alpine
4.6 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
3.6 Medieval_Foggia_Italy
3.4 Gaul_Continental_Celt
2.8 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
1.2 Greek_Empuries

gixajo
04-08-2022, 10:23 AM
Eh añadido muestras ilirias galoromanas y galas de buena calidad a ver que tal os funcionan:



Hay un problemilla en ese calculador, y es que mezclas referencias de un montón de épocas diferentes, muy distantes entre sí.

Por ejemplo, hay varias muestras neolíticas alemanas (GermanyLBK_EN,VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany. ..) , que no sé muy bien que pintan ahí, y que no muestran ningúna ascendencia alemana, ya que lo más cercano que hay a ellas serían los habitantes modernos de Cerdeña más "puros".

En todo caso aquí están nuestros resultados, aunque creo que sobran la gran mayoría de las referencias que usas en el calculador, o será que se me escapa la utilidad que tienen:

Target: gixajo
Distance: 2.4407% / 2.44066621
38.5 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
22.1 Pre_Celtic_Spain
20.1 Celtic_Briton
13.2 Celtic_Iberia
3.3 Danish_Viking
2.8 Scythian

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.0948% / 2.09480329
61.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
12.7 Pre_Celtic_Spain
7.4 Celtic_Briton
6.3 Danish_Viking
5.3 Celtic_Iberia
4.3 Gallo_Roman
2.7 Medieval_Foggia_Italy
0.1 North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 0.7297% / 0.72972563
41.6 Bell_Beaker_North_Italy
20.9 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
9.7 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
9.6 Danish_Viking
7.3 Bell_Beaker_South_France
5.5 Celtic_Iberia
4.8 Iberia_Calcolthic
0.4 Bronze_Age_Hungary
0.1 Gaul_Continental_Celt
0.1 Proto_Celt_Alpine

gixajo
04-08-2022, 10:40 AM
Por ejemplo, esto tendría más sentido:


Spain_IA:I12410,38.47,9.13,40.13,0.00,10.01,0.00,0 .00,1.29,0.00,0.00,0.23,0.74,0.00
Spain_IA:I12640,25.13,30.97,30.56,0.00,1.79,6.56,0 .00,0.00,0.00,3.53,0.00,1.46,0.00
Spain_IA:I12641,51.57,24.29,9.46,0.00,13.74,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Spain_IA:I12877,38.43,22.76,17.83,0.00,16.91,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.10,3.97
Spain_IA:I12878,39.27,9.40,28.73,0.00,19.25,0.45,0 .00,2.39,0.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Spain_IA:I12879,45.02,12.03,24.87,0.00,12.21,3.57, 0.00,0.96,0.77,0.11,0.45,0.00,0.00
Spain_IA:I3320,40.14,12.73,30.17,0.00,7.97,7.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.00,1.13
Spain_IA:I3321,53.73,1.60,38.83,0.00,5.07,0.09,0.0 0,0.06,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62
Spain_IA:I3322,47.89,7.65,33.75,0.00,8.16,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.51,0.13,1.31,0.60,0.00
Spain_IA:I3323,49.89,0.00,40.47,0.00,5.47,0.00,0.7 6,0.77,0.00,2.01,0.64,0.00,0.00
Spain_IA:I3327,53.14,4.13,29.26,1.94,5.37,2.52,0.0 0,1.04,1.54,0.00,0.00,1.08,0.00
Spain_IA:I3496,57.40,6.98,31.97,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.87,2.18,0.60,0.00
Spain_IA:I4556,35.86,15.69,35.41,0.00,6.10,1.70,0. 00,0.00,2.85,2.39,0.00,0.00,0.00
Spain_IA:I3758,46.65,15.95,26.60,0.00,6.76,1.29,0. 00,0.09,0.13,0.81,0.00,0.35,1.38
Spain_IA:I3759,45.53,14.51,28.31,0.00,7.72,0.44,0. 00,2.67,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.27
Spain_IA:I12171,53.12,0.00,30.71,2.48,0.00,5.15,2. 60,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,5.94,0.00
Viking:nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Viking:Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0 ,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Viking:Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04 ,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Gallo_Roman,35.68,11.93,29.76,4.90,11.58,1.78,0.56 ,0.3,0.13,0.05,0.21,0.04,3.08
Spain_Roman:oLocal,43.40,10.90,23.17,0.51,12.12,3. 56,0.86,1.52,0.00,1.86,0.41,0.76,0.94
Spain_Roman:oMixed,30.40,7.69,27.19,2.44,17.69,8.5 4,0.65,0.21,0.29,0.23,0.73,2.91,1.04
Spain_Muslim:Nazari,29.47,5.28,23.63,3.48,25.72,7. 27,0.27,0.00,0.47,0.31,0.14,2.56,1.41
Spain_Muslim:Almohade,27.77,7.95,26.38,0.00,24.23, 5.44,0.00,0.00,0.79,0.10,1.07,3.63,2.63

Edit: Más sentido tampoco implica que sea perfecto, porque por ejemplo algunas muestras Spain_IA según de qué época sean, podrían ya estar mezcladas, sin contar que los galo-romanos e hispano-romanos están ya mezcladísimos vete a saber con qué. Mi modelo sería solo "for fun".

Beowulf
04-08-2022, 11:40 AM
la muestra galo romana me base en una muestra puramente galo celta y otra del norte de italia y central basicamente lo que seria en un principio y mirare de quitar las muestras del neolitico a ver que tal y las dejo de la edad de bronce creo que asi sera algo mas preciso como dices


edit:

tu modelo resultados:
Target: van
Distance: 133.2034% / 1.33203408 | R4P
39.4 Spain_Muslim
32.2 Spain_IA
26.8 Viking
1.6 Spain_Roman

Beowulf
04-08-2022, 11:45 AM
Una pregunta tu te sabes el numero de kit de las muestras visigodas de girona es que las que encontra estan desactualizadas y no estan estaria interesante ponerlas varias son mezcla de nativo iberico y nordico


edit: aqui quite las muestras neolticas y bell beaker:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Bronze_Age_Iberia,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87
Medieval_Foggia_Italy,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80 ,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
Danish_Viking,51.20,30.17,6.5,0.89,2.25,2.32,2.59, 0.4,1.12,0.72,0.75,0.75,0.35
Celtic_Hallsttat,38.92,32.48,18.46,0.09,6.51,0.00, 0.00,0.42,0.00,1.96,1.17,0.00,0.00
Roman_Mix_Greek,17.03,1.66,19.44,20.33,31.48,6.62, 0.00,1.01,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.96,0.66
Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian,34.10,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0.00,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0.00
Avar_Elite,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8. 65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57
North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer,30.35,63.54,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gaul_Continental_Celt,46.43,22.51,14.80,5.46,3.01, 0.00,4.55,0.00,1.01,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.80
Greek_Empuries,17.76,1.64,31.49,9.14,35.44,4.14,0. 00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Celt_Alpine,39.50,17.21,24.82,0.86,12.42,1.1 4,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.97,0.76,0.18
Illyrian_Dalmatia,36.73,13.11,23.57,8.04,15.67,2.8 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Illyrian,34.32,11.00,26.54,8.45,18.52,0.92,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gallo_Roman,35.68,11.93,29.76,4.90,11.58,1.78,0.56 ,0.3,0.13,0.05,0.21,0.04,3.08
Roman_england,49.99,26.48,15.02,5.23,0.13,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.87,0.07,0.00,2.20





Target: van
Distance: 149.1387% / 1.49138690
45.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
30.4 Proto_Celt_Alpine
10.2 Greek_Empuries
8.0 Celtic_Iberia
6.2 Gaul_Continental_Celt

gixajo
04-09-2022, 09:49 PM
Un modelo para "ibéricos" (o centrado en...) para coordenadas del K36:


Balkan,0.00,0.72,3.92,1.46,0.00,4.83,0.00,0.00,9.9 3,0.00,6.43,10.61,4.23,1.43,3.41,9.21,0.00,21.23,0 .00,4.91,0.30,3.43,2.74,3.73,0.01,0.01,0.00,0.01,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.00,2.15,4.94
Basque,0.03,0.06,0.04,29.73,0.00,1.40,0.00,0.00,1. 09,0.00,1.03,0.18,0.56,1.40,4.39,37.44,0.00,6.48,0 .01,0.04,0.14,5.54,0.00,5.70,0.03,0.03,0.00,0.01,0 .00,0.01,0.01,0.01,0.12,0.00,0.02,4.57
British_isles,0.15,0.01,0.06,2.20,0.01,6.91,0.00,0 .00,1.55,0.00,6.05,0.04,4.92,8.50,7.90,12.75,0.00, 6.94,0.00,0.02,0.02,18.25,2.05,19.60,0.00,0.00,0.0 1,0.01,0.00,0.06,0.56,0.00,0.45,0.02,0.27,0.61
Eastern_Iberia,0.07,0.77,0.28,6.59,0.00,4.90,0.04, 0.03,1.99,0.00,1.97,2.48,1.49,2.26,6.59,28.54,0.00 ,17.34,0.03,0.99,1.23,6.59,0.29,8.22,0.07,0.04,0.0 1,0.01,0.00,0.02,0.00,0.02,0.23,0.00,0.39,6.50
Finland,0.24,0.00,0.09,0.60,0.02,1.43,0.00,0.01,0. 83,0.29,6.22,0.00,8.70,71.03,1.10,0.83,0.14,0.01,0 .00,0.00,0.01,1.85,0.00,3.50,0.00,0.19,0.01,0.00,0 .49,0.25,0.05,0.01,1.68,0.11,0.14,0.17
France&Germany,0.05,0.12,0.80,2.62,0.00,6.10,0.00,0.00,3. 44,0.00,6.24,0.72,3.54,7.81,7.11,14.95,0.01,14.21, 0.00,0.23,0.09,11.95,1.41,15.20,0.00,0.03,0.01,0.0 1,0.02,0.01,0.16,0.00,0.21,0.00,0.60,2.31
Greece,0.04,3.21,6.09,1.00,0.01,2.97,0.00,0.00,6.7 7,0.02,2.37,16.18,1.18,0.65,2.65,7.94,0.00,19.62,0 .02,10.40,0.42,1.26,5.49,1.86,0.00,0.03,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.01,0.08,0.00,0.16,0.00,4.17,5.42
Italy,0.03,1.72,3.68,1.87,0.00,3.27,0.00,0.00,4.97 ,0.00,2.46,10.41,1.23,1.14,4.48,13.96,0.00,22.52,0 .00,6.36,0.67,4.65,2.25,5.65,0.01,0.05,0.01,0.00,0 .00,0.03,0.05,0.00,0.16,0.00,2.48,5.92
Scandinavia,0.14,0.00,0.03,1.73,0.00,7.08,0.00,0.0 2,1.97,0.00,7.72,0.01,6.48,22.69,6.02,6.84,0.00,4. 22,0.00,0.00,0.00,13.54,0.71,19.09,0.00,0.03,0.01, 0.03,0.18,0.02,0.21,0.01,0.95,0.00,0.12,0.12
Slav,0.03,0.06,0.30,1.17,0.00,8.13,0.00,0.00,6.58, 0.00,24.01,0.16,17.59,11.75,3.08,4.39,0.00,3.36,0. 00,0.05,0.05,6.82,1.43,8.18,0.00,0.02,0.01,0.01,0. 00,0.02,0.28,0.00,1.74,0.00,0.47,0.31
Western_Iberia,0.03,0.97,1.05,6.99,0.04,2.26,0.07, 0.00,2.40,0.01,2.69,2.22,2.00,1.47,4.91,27.76,0.00 ,15.76,0.00,2.21,3.78,8.13,0.06,7.16,0.32,0.06,0.2 1,0.03,0.03,0.02,0.33,0.01,0.40,0.07,0.33,6.24

Para iberoamericanos (o quien quiera usarlas):


Amerindian,84.36,0.03,0.04,0.27,0.09,0.44,0.19,0.5 4,0.44,0.57,0.27,0.00,0.81,0.54,0.68,0.54,0.23,0.2 1,0.37,0.00,0.09,0.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.02,0.0 6,6.82,0.17,0.47,0.00,0.57,0.14,0.00,0.03
West_Africa,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.93,0.00,0.32,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,1.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.00,1.20,0.2 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,95.85,0.00,0.03

gixajo
04-09-2022, 09:55 PM
Una pregunta tu te sabes el numero de kit de las muestras visigodas de girona es que las que encontra estan desactualizadas y no estan estaria interesante ponerlas varias son mezcla de nativo iberico y nordico


edit: aqui quite las muestras neolticas y bell beaker:






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Creo que todas las muestras identificadas como visigodas en España son de individuos muy mezclados. Incluso no solo con ibéricos, si no también con balcánicos y otras etnias europeas.

Muchas de las muestras de visigodos andaluces están mezcladas con norteafricanos y árabes, las muestras identificadas como visigodas encontradas en Cataluña (o en mayor medida) tienden a ser más nor/centroeuropeos.

Básicamente son visigodos en un contexto arqueológico o histórico, porque fueron enterrados como visigodos en cementerios visigodos,o simplemente en época en la que la península estaba bajo control visigodo. Igual que las muestras Nazaríes o hasta alguna Almohade, están muy mezcladas o son mayoritariamente ibéricas, lo mismo, son muestras datadas en esas épocas y halladas en zonas bajo su control en esos momentos.

Pasa lo mismo con muchos individuos encontrados en enterramientos de sitios arqueológicos griegos o romanos.

Es lo que recuerdo de cuando discutimos sobre esas muestras, podría equivocarme.

Beowulf
04-09-2022, 11:10 PM
lo que me dio:

Target: ivan
Distance: 644.6638% / 6.44663844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4 Western_Iberia
27.2 Italy
21.4 Basque
9.0 Eastern_Iberia


Target: mama
Distance: 763.6758% / 7.63675816 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.8 Western_Iberia
16.0 British_isles
14.8 Basque
11.4 Greece


Target: papa
Distance: 860.1470% / 8.60146953 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0 Eastern_Iberia
18.0 Basque

Beowulf
04-09-2022, 11:10 PM
lo que me dio:

Target: ivan
Distance: 644.6638% / 6.44663844 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.4 Western_Iberia
27.2 Italy
21.4 Basque
9.0 Eastern_Iberia


Target: mama
Distance: 763.6758% / 7.63675816 | R4P | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.8 Western_Iberia
16.0 British_isles
14.8 Basque
11.4 Greece


Target: papa
Distance: 860.1470% / 8.60146953 | ADC: 0.25x RC
82.0 Eastern_Iberia
18.0 Basque

mitalit
04-11-2022, 05:47 PM
Me cobraron el mes de la suscripción de Nebula, pensé que era gratis el primero. :confused:

Como? Te han cobrado el mes sin preguntar?

Defcon2
04-11-2022, 06:07 PM
Como? Te han cobrado el mes sin preguntar?

La suscripción se inicia automáticamente y cobran unos 20€.

mitalit
04-11-2022, 06:11 PM
La suscripción se inicia automáticamente y cobran unos 20€.

Les has preguntado? En el thread de antrho decia que era gratis

Defcon2
04-11-2022, 06:23 PM
Les has preguntado? En el thread de antrho decia que era gratis

Ni idea y me da mucha pereza contactar con los de la compañía, la he cancelado y ya.

Gallop
04-11-2022, 06:42 PM
Eh añadido muestras ilirias galoromanas y galas de buena calidad a ver que tal os funcionan:

Motala_Sweden_1,36.13,63.87,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_2,37.30,60.66,0.72,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.00
Motala_Sweden_3,33.73,64.70,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,1.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany,17.28,0.00,51.6 6,0.00,29.22,1.84,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0. 00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1,13.27,0.00,56.89,0.00, 29.85,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Esperstedt_GermanyBA,44.10,40.69,0.00,15.21,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2,21.94,0.00,53.53,0.00, 24.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker,53.41,26.47,18 .90,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker,52.07,20.82,24.59 ,0.00,2.52,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Iberia,50.51,12.18,14.23,1.97,11.93,4.55,1. 49,0.36,0.22,0.14,0.00,1.26,1.16
RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland,40.29,38.47,2.68,12.06,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,6.50
Rathlin1_Ireland_BA,49.92,27.50,6.48,7.19,0.00,1.0 6,3.40,0.00,0.34,2.19,0.00,0.00,1.91
Corded_Ware_Germany,48.96,30.62,10.88,9.54,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Medieval_Frank,38.73,22.30,15.96,8.56,12.96,0.00,0 .00,0.80,0.00,0.13,0.29,0.00,0.24
Scythian,29.13,27.16,0.00,23.08,0.00,0.00,6.03,2.2 5,7.32,3.94,0.00,0.67,0.44
Andalusia_Visigoth_Era,34.95,9.52,31.60,0.00,16.60 ,5.32,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.07,1.57,0.00
Bronze_Age_Briton,51.61,25.85,12.07,5.88,3.88,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.65,0.00,0.00
Celtiberian_200BC,48.03,14.79,30.15,0.00,6.25,0.00 ,0.00,0.35,0.00,0.00,0.43,0.00,0.00
Longobard,48.93,31.49,9.54,6.45,0.00,0.00,1.44,0.0 0,0.88,0.63,0.43,0.00,0.20
Saxon_England,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Bronze_Age_Iberia,46.81,4.87,45.58,0.00,2.74,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Neolithic_Denmark,47.61,29.71,17.24,3.81,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.63
Celtic_Briton,51.87,25.18,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Anglo_Saxon,54.84,29.19,5.65,5.69,0.00,1.47,0.31,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.62,1.19,1.03
Ancient_Norway,30.35,63.54,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Thracian_Bulgarian,22.77,4.36,31.11,8.14,30.15,3.4 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Mesolthic_Britain,49.14,50.46,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.40,0.00,0.00
Etruscan,32.11,0.00,57.69,0.00,10.20,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Pre_Celtic_Spain,37.90,0.00,62.10,0.00,0.00,0.00,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Dacian_Romania,32.31,14.88,18.60,11.93,15.09,3.95, 1.43,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.08,1.40,0.00
Pre_Roman_Briton,51.87,25.28,11.63,7.32,0.00,2.29, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.34,0.21,1.16,0.00
Celtic_Gladiator_York,53.28,22.50,13.34,8.31,0.00, 0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,1.54
Bronze_Age_Hungary,64.01,22.11,11.87,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,2.00
Neolthic_Bulgaria,42.22,18.06,38.15,0.00,1.57,0.00 ,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic,40.54,25.31,12.99,4.61,11 .08,2.19,3.03,0,0,0.26,0,0,0
Norwegian_Viking,47.62,35.01,8.28,6.2,0,0,0,0,0.71 ,0,0.43,0.88,0.85
Swedish_Viking,44.91,35.66,8.55,5.51,0,0.04,0.6,0. 02,0.83,1.15,0.89,1.84,0
Slavic_Viking_Era,22.48,43.78,10.72,8.56,9.14,0.26 ,0,0,1.64,0.82,0.98,0.73,0.87
Medieval_Foggia_Italy,17.07,8.36,24.98,14.34,23.80 ,5.71,2.03,1.00,0.00,0.00,0.53,1.03,1.15
Danish_Viking,51.20,30.17,6.5,0.89,2.25,2.32,2.59, 0.4,1.12,0.72,0.75,0.75,0.35
Bell_Beaker_North_Italy,53.15,11.00,31.95,0.00,2.3 1,1.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Bell_Beaker_South_France,68.26,20.22,11.51,0.00,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Celtic_Hallsttat,38.92,32.48,18.46,0.09,6.51,0.00, 0.00,0.42,0.00,1.96,1.17,0.00,0.00
Roman_Mix_Greek,17.03,1.66,19.44,20.33,31.48,6.62, 0.00,1.01,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.96,0.66
Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian,34.10,10.37,21.66,10. 57,15.78,3.98,1.12,0.00,0.71,0.88,0.28,0.55,0.00
Iberia_Calcolthic,43.03,0.00,56.86,0.00,0.11,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Avar_Elite,11.5,9.25,6.98,26.19,15.43,1.04,3.34,8. 65 ,15 .71,0.79,0.53,0,0.57
North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer,30.35,63.54,0.00, 0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.54,5.57,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gaul_Continental_Celt,46.43,22.51,14.80,5.46,3.01, 0.00,4.55,0.00,1.01,0.00,1.41,0.00,0.80
Greek_Empuries,17.76,1.64,31.49,9.14,35.44,4.14,0. 00,0.39,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Celt_Alpine,39.50,17.21,24.82,0.86,12.42,1.1 4,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.97,0.76,0.18
Illyrian_Dalmatia,36.73,13.11,23.57,8.04,15.67,2.8 7,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Proto_Illyrian,34.32,11.00,26.54,8.45,18.52,0.92,0 .00,0.00,0.00,0.24,0.00,0.00,0.00
Gallo_Roman,35.68,11.93,29.76,4.90,11.58,1.78,0.56 ,0.3,0.13,0.05,0.21,0.04,3.08

distancias:
Distance to: ivan
6.22926962 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
7.46198365 Gallo_Roman
7.92369863 Proto_Celt_Alpine
8.30324635 Illyrian_Dalmatia
8.78940840 Proto_Illyrian
11.36531566 Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian
14.70460812 Dacian_Romania
16.43117768 Celtiberian_200BC
17.84638619 Medieval_Frank
19.56184552 Celtic_Iberia
20.69483510 Neolthic_Bulgaria
20.88363714 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
22.54660950 Bell_Beaker_North_Italy
22.63798578 Thracian_Bulgarian
23.13902764 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
23.94597670 Gaul_Continental_Celt
24.84685694 Celtic_Hallsttat
25.13459767 Medieval_Foggia_Italy
26.49444093 Bronze_Age_Iberia
28.71084464 Neolithic_Denmark
28.96394483 Bronze_Age_Briton
29.07829087 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
30.21737414 Celtic_Gladiator_York
30.29674570 Greek_Empuries
30.93049628 Celtic_Briton
30.97391806 Pre_Roman_Briton
33.42804810 Corded_Ware_Germany
33.83150898 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_2
33.89039244 Longobard
34.01680467 Etruscan
34.03574151 Rathlin1_Ireland_BA
34.04392604 Roman_Mix_Greek
34.18854925 Danish_Viking
35.66025238 Swedish_Viking
36.02161018 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
36.22749508 Norwegian_Viking
36.79742111 Iberia_Calcolthic
37.08427834 Bronze_Age_Hungary
37.17841444 Saxon_England
37.17841444 Anglo_Saxon
39.96420148 Slavic_Viking_Era
40.03264543 Bell_Beaker_South_France
40.70247658 Pre_Celtic_Spain
41.76131942 RISE1_Corded_Ware_Poland
42.16502935 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
43.07532472 Scythian
44.53458880 Avar_Elite
45.76515268 Esperstedt_GermanyBA
51.55292038 Mesolthic_Britain
57.88482098 Motala_Sweden_2
60.91729639 Motala_Sweden_1
61.16384880 Ancient_Norway
61.16384880 North_Norwegian_Hunther_Gatherer
61.69675842 Motala_Sweden_3



Target: ivan
Distance: 131.0036% / 1.31003607
23.6 Celtic_Iberia
22.8 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
17.6 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
12.6 Danish_Viking
7.8 Proto_Celt_Alpine
4.6 Halberstadt_GermanyLBK_EN_1
3.6 Medieval_Foggia_Italy
3.4 Gaul_Continental_Celt
2.8 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
1.2 Greek_Empuries


Target: Gallop
Distance: 209.2304% / 2.09230389
26.6 Celtic_Briton
19.2 Iberia_Calcolthic
17.8 Celtic_Iberia
12.8 Pre_Celtic_Spain
8.8 Roman_Mix_Greek
8.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
6.6 Avar_Elite

Target: Father
Distance: 275.8770% / 2.75876988
47.4 Gallo_Roman
23.6 Bronze_Age_Hungary
14.2 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
13.8 VaisenhaeserEarlyNeolithic_Germany
1.0 Celtic_Iberia

Distance to: Father
5.86857734 Gallo_Roman
7.69970129 Proto_Celt_Alpine
9.59506123 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
10.67232402 Illyrian_Dalmatia
11.65723809 Celtiberian_200BC
12.28422159 Proto_Illyrian
14.36625908 Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian
16.27724792 Neolthic_Bulgaria
17.53391000 Bell_Beaker_North_Italy
17.59993466 Dacian_Romania
18.36215401 Medieval_Frank
18.43645845 Celtic_Iberia
18.85654793 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
21.24489350 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
21.75964614 Gaul_Continental_Celt
22.48865047 Bronze_Age_Iberia
23.85057861 Celtic_Hallsttat
25.47066941 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.62824614 Neolithic_Denmark
26.62070059 Bronze_Age_Briton
26.97292902 Celtic_Gladiator_York
27.48612741 Thracian_Bulgarian
28.28985330 Celtic_Briton
28.33622770 Pre_Roman_Briton
29.67564995 Medieval_Foggia_Italy

Distance to: Gallop
8.33299466 Gallo_Roman
11.29081928 Celtiberian_200BC
11.76357939 Proto_Celt_Alpine
12.14192324 Illyrian_Dalmatia
13.34744170 Andalusia_Visigoth_Era
14.35237611 Proto_Illyrian
14.47721658 Medieval_Iberian_Mix_Italian
15.01317421 Bell_Beaker_North_Italy
15.10512496 Neolthic_Bulgaria
17.80764162 Dacian_Romania
18.24362902 Quedlingburg_Germany_Bell_Beaker
19.13757038 Celtic_Iberia
19.74430804 Medieval_Frank
20.08025896 Bronze_Age_Iberia
21.04266618 Gaul_Continental_Celt
23.00780085 Viking_nordic_Mix_Slavic
24.84634380 Rottenshimbarck_Germany_Bell_Beaker
25.08692687 Celtic_Gladiator_York
25.34554004 Neolithic_Denmark
25.99045017 Celtic_Hallsttat
26.11725675 Bronze_Age_Briton
26.62323046 Celtic_Briton
26.68037481 Pre_Roman_Briton
29.98450266 Corded_Ware_Germany
30.32343978 Thracian_Bulgarian

Defcon2
04-13-2022, 09:39 PM
Iberian:Basque,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044 ,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1_New,0.12862033, 0.14217433,0.05480800,0.02056433,0.04226433,0.0042 7633,-0.00047000,0.00223067,0.02263400,0.03006900,-0.00405967,0.01238900,-0.02135733,-0.02124000,0.01026967,0.00570133,0.00669300,-0.00021100,0.00360333,-0.00141700,0.00657167,0.00416300,-0.00320467,-0.00610533,0.00307367
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche_New,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.0081 7367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533
Rome_Imperial_Proxy,0.11723760,0.15720400,-0.01659300,-0.05226140,0.00806300,-0.01751420,-0.00385400,-0.00743060,-0.00601300,0.02919400,0.00272800,0.00449600,-0.01233860,-0.00228460,-0.01321900,-0.00310260,0.00727560,-0.00222960,0.00515380,-0.00680300,-0.00366840,0.00239880,-0.00332780,-0.00175920,-0.00220340


Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.5044% / 0.03504364
71.2 Iberian
14.8 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
14.0 Berber

gixajo
04-13-2022, 10:06 PM
Iberian:Basque,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044 ,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1_New,0.12862033, 0.14217433,0.05480800,0.02056433,0.04226433,0.0042 7633,-0.00047000,0.00223067,0.02263400,0.03006900,-0.00405967,0.01238900,-0.02135733,-0.02124000,0.01026967,0.00570133,0.00669300,-0.00021100,0.00360333,-0.00141700,0.00657167,0.00416300,-0.00320467,-0.00610533,0.00307367
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche_New,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.0081 7367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533
Rome_Imperial_Proxy,0.11723760,0.15720400,-0.01659300,-0.05226140,0.00806300,-0.01751420,-0.00385400,-0.00743060,-0.00601300,0.02919400,0.00272800,0.00449600,-0.01233860,-0.00228460,-0.01321900,-0.00310260,0.00727560,-0.00222960,0.00515380,-0.00680300,-0.00366840,0.00239880,-0.00332780,-0.00175920,-0.00220340



Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3524% / 0.02352353
82.2 Iberian
12.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
5.2 Berber

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.5718% / 0.02571787
69.8 Iberian
20.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
9.6 Berber

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8558% / 0.02855847
92.0 Iberian
4.8 Berber
3.2 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

¿Y estos dos etiquetados como "nuevos"? ¿Y el Basque ese que no me suenan esas coordenadas?


Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1_New
Canary_Islands_Guanche_New

mitalit
04-13-2022, 10:14 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.4029% / 0.02402874
80.2 Iberian
12.0 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
7.8 Berber


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3524% / 0.02352353
82.2 Iberian
12.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
5.2 Berber

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.5718% / 0.02571787
69.8 Iberian
20.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
9.6 Berber

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8558% / 0.02855847
92.0 Iberian
4.8 Berber
3.2 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

¿Y estos dos etiquetados como "nuevos"? ¿Y el Basque ese que no me suenan esas coordenadas?
Sabes algo del documental de colon?

HelloGuys
04-13-2022, 10:15 PM
Iberian:Basque,0.125205,0.140143,0.063356,0.009044 ,0.062781,0.003347,-0.00235,0.006692,0.02168,0.034989,-0.006008,0.009292,-0.016204,-0.008945,0.0076,0.007425,0.003912,0.000633,0.00326 8,0.001251,0.012977,0.004081,-0.006039,-0.007109,-0.009221
Iberian:Iberia_Northeast_Empuries1_New,0.12862033, 0.14217433,0.05480800,0.02056433,0.04226433,0.0042 7633,-0.00047000,0.00223067,0.02263400,0.03006900,-0.00405967,0.01238900,-0.02135733,-0.02124000,0.01026967,0.00570133,0.00669300,-0.00021100,0.00360333,-0.00141700,0.00657167,0.00416300,-0.00320467,-0.00610533,0.00307367
Berber:Canary_Islands_Guanche_New,-0.05008200,0.13066467,-0.00553133,-0.07289033,0.02554300,-0.03857967,-0.03086467,0.01015333,0.07465100,0.03128367,0.0081 7367,-0.00744367,0.01982133,-0.01908367,0.02452000,-0.01356833,0.00217300,-0.01938333,-0.04881267,0.00883767,-0.01239467,-0.04468000,0.02563533,-0.00088333,0.01173533
Rome_Imperial_Proxy,0.11723760,0.15720400,-0.01659300,-0.05226140,0.00806300,-0.01751420,-0.00385400,-0.00743060,-0.00601300,0.02919400,0.00272800,0.00449600,-0.01233860,-0.00228460,-0.01321900,-0.00310260,0.00727560,-0.00222960,0.00515380,-0.00680300,-0.00366840,0.00239880,-0.00332780,-0.00175920,-0.00220340


Target: Defcon2_scaled
Distance: 3.5044% / 0.03504364
71.2 Iberian
14.8 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
14.0 Berber

Bueno; esas referencias son modernas? Antiguas? Porque para que funcionara conmigo y mi familia le agregué muestras antiguas amerindias y SSA (Ya que son de las pocas que pude guardar) y esto fue lo que salió:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.6821% / 0.02682057
36.0 South_Amerindian
33.2 Iberian
16.4 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
11.8 Berber
2.6 Western_African

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 1.9898% / 0.01989766
32.0 South_Amerindian
31.8 Iberian
16.8 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
12.8 Berber
3.4 North_Amerindian
3.2 Western_African

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.0330% / 0.02032973
38.2 Iberian
31.4 South_Amerindian
12.0 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
10.6 North_Amerindian
5.6 Berber
2.2 Western_African

Target: Hermana_scaled
Distance: 2.3948% / 0.02394778
38.8 Iberian
37.8 South_Amerindian
11.2 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
10.2 Berber
2.0 Western_African

Pedro Ruben
04-13-2022, 10:40 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.0331% / 0.03033106
70.4 Iberian
19.2 Berber
10.4 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

Target: Dad_scaled
Distance: 3.0038% / 0.03003795
70.2 Iberian
23.2 Berber
6.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

Target: Mom_scaled
Distance: 2.3275% / 0.02327472
79.0 Iberian
15.8 Berber
5.2 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

gixajo
04-13-2022, 11:26 PM
Sabes algo del documental de colon?

No.

Edit: Habrá que esperar un poco (más).

gixajo
04-13-2022, 11:35 PM
¿Y cómo van esos raw data de nebula? ¿No enseñaís nada que hayáis hecho con ellos?

Defcon2
04-14-2022, 05:14 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.3524% / 0.02352353
82.2 Iberian
12.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
5.2 Berber

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.5718% / 0.02571787
69.8 Iberian
20.6 Rome_Imperial_Proxy
9.6 Berber

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8558% / 0.02855847
92.0 Iberian
4.8 Berber
3.2 Rome_Imperial_Proxy

¿Y estos dos etiquetados como "nuevos"? ¿Y el Basque ese que no me suenan esas coordenadas?

La de Empuries es gente local no-vasca refinada por que una muestra tenía un poco de ascendencia gala. La bereber está hecha con los más " puros", el vasco es un único individuo.

El raw data de Nebula pesa demasiado y además no tengo ni idea de como extraer los datos para hacer autosomales con el software, preguntaría por flandersland pero como estoy baneado no puedo hacerlo.

gixajo
04-14-2022, 09:15 AM
La de Empuries es gente local no-vasca refinada por que una muestra tenía un poco de ascendencia gala. La bereber está hecha con los más " puros", el vasco es un único individuo.

El raw data de Nebula pesa demasiado y además no tengo ni idea de como extraer los datos para hacer autosomales con el software, preguntaría por flandersland pero como estoy baneado no puedo hacerlo.

Puedo preguntarlo por tí . Si me pagas 500 euros.

mitalit
04-14-2022, 08:20 PM
¿Y cómo van esos raw data de nebula? ¿No enseñaís nada que hayáis hecho con ellos?

Aun no me han llegado. Me pregunto si defcon ha conseguido meter la raw en otros sitios como gedmatch

gixajo
04-14-2022, 08:37 PM
Aun no me han llegado. Me he pregunto si defcon ha conseguido meter la raw en otros sitios como gedmatch

Justo unos posts más arriba dice esto:


El raw data de Nebula pesa demasiado y además no tengo ni idea de como extraer los datos para hacer autosomales con el software, preguntaría por flandersland pero como estoy baneado no puedo hacerlo.

Así que diría que anda buscando la forma de usar esos raw data.

Pensaba que Nebula ya daba estimaciones étnicas, Ydna y mtdna como parte de su servicio, aparte de información de utilidad médica etc...

mitalit
04-14-2022, 08:59 PM
Justo unos posts más arriba dice esto:



Así que diría que anda buscando la forma de usar esos raw data.

Pensaba que Nebula ya daba estimaciones étnicas, Ydna y mtdna como parte de su servicio, aparte de información de utilidad médica etc...

En el otro foro dijeron que se podia tener las estimaciones de todas las webs con la raw de nebula, pero ni idea de como va

Defcon2
04-14-2022, 09:36 PM
En el otro foro dijeron que se podia tener las estimaciones de todas las webs con la raw de nebula, pero ni idea de como va

Hay que convertirla primero al formato que quieras, ya sea 23andme en alguna de sus distintas versiones, Ancestry, etc... tiene un manual de 119 páginas y todo, la cuestión es ponerse.

https://wgsextract.github.io/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fxDr-A5G5nqP8PcYa_dtUuOPqkokkRS_LVX4Qx7BoPw/edit#heading=h.tmjl1dtvsuc3


Justo unos posts más arriba dice esto:

Así que diría que anda buscando la forma de usar esos raw data.

Pensaba que Nebula ya daba estimaciones étnicas, Ydna y mtdna como parte de su servicio, aparte de información de utilidad médica etc...

Ni si quiera eso es casi puramente datos sin procesar, el ydna/mtdna lo da yfull que ambos están asociados, lo único que si dan es el tema médico.

gixajo
04-14-2022, 10:04 PM
Hay que convertirla primero al formato que quieras, ya sea 23andme en alguna de sus distintas versiones, Ancestry, etc... tiene un manual de 119 páginas y todo, la cuestión es ponerse.

https://wgsextract.github.io/

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fxDr-A5G5nqP8PcYa_dtUuOPqkokkRS_LVX4Qx7BoPw/edit#heading=h.tmjl1dtvsuc3



Ni si quiera eso es casi puramente datos sin procesar, el ydna/mtdna lo da yfull que ambos están asociados, lo único que si dan es el tema médico.

Pues paciencia y poco a poco.

Defcon2
04-15-2022, 04:49 PM
Pues paciencia y poco a poco.

Pagué 41€ para desbloquear todo de yfull que hasta ahora no me dejaba, aún me tienen que estimar la edad del haplo.
Ahora estoy en el único grupo de y-dna específicamente ibérico y al parecer tu no estás, no era de Jaén tu lado paterno?

https://i.imgur.com/XV2OI1k.jpg

gixajo
04-15-2022, 05:41 PM
Pagué 41€ para desbloquear todo de yfull que hasta ahora no me dejaba, aún me tienen que estimar la edad del haplo.
Ahora estoy en el único grupo de y-dna específicamente ibérico y al parecer tu no estás, no era de Jaén tu lado paterno?

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¿A qué te refieres con eso de "no estás"? ¿Al grupo de Ydna ibérico o a estar en Yfull? En Yfull estoy, y mi sample viene como que es de Jaén, sí, porque hasta donde yo sé, mi Ydna viene de ahí.

https://i.postimg.cc/WpYGYr1c/Ydna-Yfullmio.png (https://postimg.cc/146Vf8Fv)

Defcon2
04-15-2022, 06:01 PM
¿A qué te refieres con eso de "no estás"? ¿Al grupo de Ydna ibérico o a estar en Yfull? En Yfull estoy, y mi sample viene como que es de Jaén, sí, porque hasta donde yo sé, mi Ydna viene de ahí.

https://i.postimg.cc/WpYGYr1c/Ydna-Yfullmio.png (https://postimg.cc/146Vf8Fv)

Me refiero al grupo por supuesto que no estás y me sonaba que era de Jaén en realidad viene de Ucrania

gixajo
04-15-2022, 07:59 PM
Me refiero al grupo por supuesto que no estás y me sonaba que era de Jaén en realidad viene de Ucrania

¿Qué grupo ni que niño muerto? ¿Algo en plan proyecto de FTDNA?

Defcon2
04-15-2022, 08:38 PM
¿Qué grupo ni que niño muerto? ¿Algo en plan proyecto de FTDNA?

https://www.yfull.com/groups/iberian/

gixajo
04-15-2022, 09:39 PM
https://www.yfull.com/groups/iberian/

A ver si me aceptan, aunque supongo que no sirve de mucho.

Llevo muchos gastos este mes,y aún me quedan unos cuantos más, no puedo hacer el full genomes de Nebula por ahora.:(

mitalit
04-16-2022, 03:33 PM
Pagué 41€ para desbloquear todo de yfull que hasta ahora no me dejaba, aún me tienen que estimar la edad del haplo.
Ahora estoy en el único grupo de y-dna específicamente ibérico y al parecer tu no estás, no era de Jaén tu lado paterno?

https://i.imgur.com/XV2OI1k.jpg

Creia que eran 20

Beowulf
04-28-2022, 10:41 AM
alguien tiene la hoja de calculos originales de G25? el moderno

Defcon2
04-29-2022, 06:22 AM
alguien tiene la hoja de calculos originales de G25? el moderno

En el enlace tienes todos.

https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25_12.html?m=1

Beowulf
05-02-2022, 04:06 PM
muchas gracias a @gixajo por las coordenadas de G25

aqui mis resultados:

Target: VikingMallorca_scaled:K13&K15_sim
Distance: 3.3421% / 0.03342059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.0 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
5.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 MAR_Taforalt

es normal tener tanto de la estepa?

mitalit
05-02-2022, 05:31 PM
muchas gracias a @gixajo por las coordenadas de G25

aqui mis resultados:

Target: VikingMallorca_scaled:K13&K15_sim
Distance: 3.3421% / 0.03342059 | ADC: 0.25x RC
51.0 TUR_Barcin_N
29.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
11.2 WHG
5.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
3.2 MAR_Taforalt

es normal tener tanto de la estepa?

Creo que esta un poco por debajo de la media (unas decimas). Aunque lo mejor seria que te hicieses las coordenadas reales, las de gixajo son una buena estimación pero no dejan de ser algo irreal

mitalit
05-02-2022, 08:15 PM
Creo que esta un poco por debajo de la media (unas decimas). Aunque lo mejor seria que te hicieses las coordenadas reales, las de gixajo son una buena estimación pero no dejan de ser algo irreal

https://i.gyazo.com/d52bc5e06751dfdeeec554864564ffd8.png
https://i.gyazo.com/1eb420da1b4688b02503cf305ccbbc5c.png

Beowulf
05-03-2022, 09:35 AM
tengo otra duda para resultados antiuguos que seria mejor? las coordenadas de gedmatch y G25 o my true ancestry cual seria mas bueno y preciso?

mitalit
05-13-2022, 08:58 AM
@Defcon. Has conseguido hacer algo mas con la raw?

mitalit
05-13-2022, 08:59 AM
tengo otra duda para resultados antiuguos que seria mejor? las coordenadas de gedmatch y G25 o my true ancestry cual seria mas bueno y preciso?

gedmatch y G25