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PT Tagus
03-15-2020, 03:52 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.9167% / 0.03916710
91.6 European
6.4 Iberomaurusian
2.0 SSA

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 4.1382% / 0.04138178 | ADC: 0.25x
81.6 European
11.6 Anatolian_Near_East
5.8 Iberomaurusian
1.0 SSA

sou mais ni**a do que tu. :D

Pedro Ruben
03-15-2020, 03:59 PM
sou mais ni**a do que tu. :D

Acho que de ni** temos valores semelhantes :p, eu tenho mais Iberomaurusian que tem mistura SSA. O que tu tens mais alto são os valores do medio oriente :p

Gota_type_
03-15-2020, 04:33 PM
Pues yo soy de Galicia, que es donde se supone que tenemos supuestamente más NorthAfrican, y por tanto, también se debería ver el subsahariano, y por lo menos los que he visto yo de por aquí la mayoría no da nada norteafricano y menos subsahariano. Yo no tengo nada de ambos en 23andme. En el K36 sí sale pero en el K36 salen asignaciones muy raras en muchas partes de Europa (desde Escandinavos con sangre amerindia a ingleses con sangre norteafricana).


Buf ni idea, pero no soy el único puntuando en SSA, tengo a varias personas en relatives. Para resumir, dos portugueses y al final un gallego, parece ser algo moruno ya que el occidente peninsular contiene la mayor carga. Quizá solo tenga dificultades para separar el norte de África, a saber.

https://i.postimg.cc/L6LN6cgh/Portugal-4-4-Proen-a-a-Nova-2-2-Castelo-Branco-Serpa-1-1-Beja.png
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Anatol75266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048

Intenta esa.

Por cierto, no me hables en andaluz tan cerrado, que no se te entiende.

Os leo a varios escribiendo mucho sobre el G25, en 2-3 líneas me puedes decir en qué consiste, qué utilidad tiene y cómo hacerlo?

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 04:42 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.7196% / 0.03719622 | ADC: 0.25x
83.6 European
13.4 Anatolian_Near_East
3.0 Iberomaurusian

Se ve algo pero seguramente serán resultados que sólo sirven para cada selección concreta no el todo porque para eso harían falta miles de muestras en la calculadora.


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.7196% / 0.03719558 | ADC: 0.25x
50.4 European
24.4 Anatolian_Farmer
14.0 Anatolian_Near_East
8.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.0 Iberomaurusian

Gallop usa la mia! En la que te quotee!

Gota_type_
03-15-2020, 04:44 PM
Se me olvidaba... mi madre Espanola:

https://i.imgur.com/rMlmaPI.png


Tiene tu madre el NW European bastante alto (un 20%) y varios cromosomas (especialmente el 1) que son totalmente NW European. Es lo que me sorprende, el ver que después de tantos siglos sin aportaciones foráneas haya cromosomas que sean completamente de otro lugar. En el resto de cromosomas le pasa lo que a mí, que hay mezclados componentes de distinto tipo, pero es llamativo cómo la integridad de un cromosoma (o varios) pueda ser foráneo después de siglos de recombinaciones sin aportes extranjeros.

Y el 0.7% askenazi jewish está claro que es el mismo error que con el "northafrican", es un tema de etiquetas. Entre otras cosas porque en España no hubo lo que se llama "askenazi" sino sefardíes, y porque la grandísima mayoría fueron expulsados. Así que seguramente han calificado como "askenazi" algunos segmentos que en realidad son puramente propios nuestros y que lo que tienen los judíos cuando se hacen pruebas de ADN es en realidad sangre española, y no al revés.

Pero es interesante ver cómo varían los componentes en las distintas zonas de España y, sobre todo, cuanto más alejados de la zona vasca menos % de "Spanish" y cuanto más acercados más % de Spanish. Para q luego digan de los vascos, son la referencia principal utilizada para identificar el "Spanish".

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 04:46 PM
Pues yo soy de Galicia, que es donde se supone que tenemos supuestamente más NorthAfrican, y por tanto, también se debería ver el subsahariano, y por lo menos los que he visto yo de por aquí la mayoría no da nada norteafricano y menos subsahariano. Yo no tengo nada de ambos en 23andme. En el K36 sí sale pero en el K36 salen asignaciones muy raras en muchas partes de Europa (desde Escandinavos con sangre amerindia a ingleses con sangre norteafricana).






Os leo a varios escribiendo mucho sobre el G25, en 2-3 líneas me puedes decir en qué consiste, qué utilidad tiene y cómo hacerlo?

Como diria el user AlfonsoVIII: Es la polla en bicicleta.

El G25 es una herramienta que consiste en 25 coordenadas que puedes utilizar para modelaciones, dicho de otra manera, para comparar con otras poblaciones usando las respectivas muestras que sacan los catedraticos, genetistas, foreros frikis de anthrogenica o eurogenes, etc.

Ahora mismo, es lo mas fiable, porque se te actualiza a cada rato, tus G25 nunca van a cambiar pero saldran mas G25 de poblaciones antiguas o modernas con las cuales quien compararte. Mira por ejemplo la que esta sacando la peña ahora mismo, para mi, la mas util, que es la de poblaciones antiguas.

Para sacarla solo necesitas 12 EUR en paypal y mandar un correo a eurogenesblog@gmail.com pidiendole el G25.

Lo de ser de Galicia y marcar SSA en el K36, pues yo tambien lo marcaba, como 1% y ya con el G25 que es una mejor herramienta, desaparece. Es cuestion de usar calculadoras mas actualizadas, fijate que yo soy 2.5/4 gallego, 0.5/4 asturiano y 1/4 siciliano, y no marco SSA, lo mas probable que eso se te desaparezca.

Defcon2
03-15-2020, 04:53 PM
Pero es interesante ver cómo varían los componentes en las distintas zonas de España y, sobre todo, cuanto más alejados de la zona vasca menos % de "Spanish" y cuanto más acercados más % de Spanish. Para q luego digan de los vascos, son la referencia principal utilizada para identificar el "Spanish".

De la zona pirenaica-atlántica en Francia muy cerca de la referencia ibérica, 95.2%.

https://i.postimg.cc/SNsw-cvbW/aquitano.png

Gota_type_
03-15-2020, 05:02 PM
Como diria el user AlfonsoVIII: Es la polla en bicicleta.

El G25 es una herramienta que consiste en 25 coordenadas que puedes utilizar para modelaciones, dicho de otra manera, para comparar con otras poblaciones usando las respectivas muestras que sacan los catedraticos, genetistas, foreros frikis de anthrogenica o eurogenes, etc.

Ahora mismo, es lo mas fiable, porque se te actualiza a cada rato, tus G25 nunca van a cambiar pero saldran mas G25 de poblaciones antiguas o modernas con las cuales quien compararte. Mira por ejemplo la que esta sacando la peña ahora mismo, para mi, la mas util, que es la de poblaciones antiguas.

Para sacarla solo necesitas 12 EUR en paypal y mandar un correo a eurogenesblog@gmail.com pidiendole el G25.

Lo de ser de Galicia y marcar SSA en el K36, pues yo tambien lo marcaba, como 1% y ya con el G25 que es una mejor herramienta, desaparece. Es cuestion de usar calculadoras mas actualizadas, fijate que yo soy 2.5/4 gallego, 0.5/4 asturiano y 1/4 siciliano, y no marco SSA, lo mas probable que eso se te desaparezca.

Se agradece pero creo que voy a pasar. Parece ser que le tienes q mandar todo el RAW data de 23andme a este tipo. Si ya tocaba un poco las narices que tu análisis genético lo tuviera una compañía, menos gracia me hace q lo tenga un particular. Y no, en K36 me salía Northafrican, en subsahariano nada. Por lo q recuerdo también me salía bastante alto el Siberian.


De la zona pirenaica-atlántica en Francia muy cerca de la referencia ibérica, 95.2%.

https://i.postimg.cc/SNsw-cvbW/aquitano.png

El de la derecha es un francés? Y lo califican como "Spanish"? Debe ser un vasco francés seguro.

Defcon2
03-15-2020, 05:08 PM
Se agradece pero creo que voy a pasar. Parece ser que le tienes q mandar todo el RAW data de 23andme a este tipo. Si ya tocaba un poco las narices que tu análisis genético lo tuviera una compañía, menos gracia me hace q lo tenga un particular. Y no, en K36 me salía Northafrican, en subsahariano nada. Por lo q recuerdo también me salía bastante alto el Siberian.

El de la derecha es un francés? Y lo califican como "Spanish"? Debe ser un vasco francés seguro.

Deberías sacar tus propias coordenadas, es muy útil y me interesaría saber tus componentes antiguos principales. Es posible que encuentres muchas cosas reveladoras.

Y sí, es un francés muy vasco (zona pirenaica atlántica, si lo buscas verás que es), diría que supera en vasquidad a la mayoría del País Vasco sin despeinarse.

Gota_type_
03-15-2020, 05:15 PM
Deberías sacar tus propias coordenadas, es muy útil y me interesaría saber tus componentes antiguos principales. Es posible que encuentres muchas cosas reveladoras.

Y sí, es un francés muy vasco (zona pirenaica atlántica, si lo buscas verás que es), diría que supera en vasquidad a la mayoría del País Vasco sin despeinarse.

Lo pensaré pero creo que no lo terminaré haciendo. Quizá este año salgan nuevas calculadoras y se puedan utilizar sin tener que enviar todo tu ADN a un tipo (sino por ejemplo poner tus datos del K13 o del K36 o semejantes).

Defcon2
03-15-2020, 05:19 PM
Lo pensaré pero creo que no lo terminaré haciendo. Quizá este año salgan nuevas calculadoras y se puedan utilizar sin tener que enviar todo tu ADN a un tipo (sino por ejemplo poner tus datos del K13 o del K36 o semejantes).

La mayoría de calculadoras como Gedmatch son del año 2013 e inferior y no se van actualizar, las nuevas calculadoras a saber cuando van a salir si es que salen. Si te preocupa el tema de la privacidad no hay mucho que hacer, pero es mil veces más privado enviandolo a un particular que a una empresa, debido a que las empresas están más obligadas a generar ganancias (terceras compañías se involucran), Gedmatch fue comprada por otra empresa.

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 05:24 PM
Lo pensaré pero creo que no lo terminaré haciendo. Quizá este año salgan nuevas calculadoras y se puedan utilizar sin tener que enviar todo tu ADN a un tipo (sino por ejemplo poner tus datos del K13 o del K36 o semejantes).

Es que hay mas privacidad enviandoselo a un particular que subiendolo en una pagina, vamos, en mi opinion personal. Igualmente ya te digo, al parecer esto del G25, que es bastante reciente, va para rato por la manera en que se puede actualizar y el uso que le das.

Pero bueno, ya sabes, si estas interesado, tu ve el post y las instrucciones.

mitalit
03-15-2020, 05:31 PM
Entonces cual creéis que seria el top 3 de calculadoras de g25?

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 05:34 PM
Entonces cual creéis que seria el top 3 de calculadoras de g25?

La que yo cree, esta bastante buena, siendo honestos. Esa para comparar poblaciones antiguas.

La World25 Nicola Scaled la pongo de segunda, atina bastante con tan pocas referencias, porque comparar con poblaciones modernas es complicado.

De tercera yo pondría la K=50.

Gallop
03-15-2020, 05:45 PM
Necesitamos más publicaciones de españoles. Ya los hilos de gente que dice ser española sin publicar, sin una sola captura de pantalla supera a los españoles o de origen español que publicamos.

No puede ser que el puto Al-Andalus tenga paralizada a la gente. Ok que los extranjeros quieren dar la identidad de los perdedores a los ganadores, pero se engañan así mismo y eso no nos puede detener. Dónde está el espíritu de Numancia?

Más publicaciones, nada de tonterías de fotomontajes y de vez en cuando capturas de pantalla y que ladren. Las cosas se demuestran a la cara y yendo de frente.

Si somos 3 y medio publicando y cuarenta mil extraños hilos de supuestos españoles sin presentar resultados, ni capturas de pantalla ni nada de nada, bla bla bla bla bla

Una lástima la verdad, no me esperaba yo esta cobardía.

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 05:47 PM
Necesitamos más publicaciones de españoles. Ya los hilos de gente que dice ser española sin publicar, sin una sola captura de pantalla supera a los españoles o de origen español que publicamos.

No puede ser que el puto Al-Andalus tenga paralizada a la gente. Ok que los extranjeros quieren dar la identidad de los perdedores a los ganadores, pero se engañan así mismo y eso no nos puede detener. Dónde está el espíritu de Numancia?

Más publicaciones, nada de tonterías de fotomontajes y de vez en cuando capturas de pantalla y que ladren. Las cosas se demuestran a la cara y yendo de frente.

Si somos 3 y medio publicando y cuarenta mil extraños hilos de supuestos españoles sin presentar resultados, ni capturas de pantalla ni nada de nada, bla bla bla bla bla

Una lástima la verdad, no me esperaba yo esta cobardía.

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Lapa_Do_Santo,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Shahr_e_Sukhteh,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura_Araxes,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
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Usa esa Gallop! Que estoy de acuerdo contigo en todo! Pero hombre no me ignores jajajaja, que quisiera ver cuanto sacas aqui.

Gallop
03-15-2020, 06:00 PM
CI

One moment. Xd eso parece el pasaje del terror, ahora voy a ver. Imaghino khe ezo eh ehcalao?

Gallop
03-15-2020, 06:08 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.6954% / 0.03695393 | ADC: 0.25x
54.6 Anatolian_Farmer
30.0 Yamnaya
12.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian

Zin ehcalá por zi acazo, no ehpezificai, ay ke decil.lo cà ve.

Target: Gallop
Distance: 3.2593% / 0.03259336 | ADC: 0.25x
25.0 Anatolian_Farmer
23.2 Yamnaya
12.6 Hajji_Firuz_Tepe
11.8 Jarawa
10.6 Devils_Gate_Cave_N
7.8 Gambian
4.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.4 Iberomaurusian

Cuà eh a güena de ha do?

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 06:09 PM
CI

One moment. Xd eso parece el pasaje del terror, ahora voy a ver. Imaghino khe ezo eh ehcalao?

Jajajajajaja, sera el pasaje de la relevacion una vez que la uses, eso va a confirmar si eres japones o no, y a ver si aprendo mas tu dialecto al-andalusi, que no lo entiendo :lmao

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 06:13 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.6954% / 0.03695393 | ADC: 0.25x
54.6 Anatolian_Farmer
30.0 Yamnaya
12.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian

Hostia... El yamnaya es superior al average español y tienes bastante WHG, a niveles tipicos, pero ya los españoles tienen niveles de Cazador altos. Lo de japones o asiatico, confirmado que no lo rascas, aunque eso es x0.25, si puedes postear con 0.0 mejor.

Gallop
03-15-2020, 06:19 PM
Hostia... El yamnaya es superior al average español y tienes bastante WHG, a niveles tipicos, pero ya los españoles tienen niveles de Cazador altos. Lo de japones o asiatico, confirmado que no lo rascas, aunque eso es x0.25, si puedes postear con 0.0 mejor.

A 00% explícame como se pone?

mitalit
03-15-2020, 06:20 PM
Yo saco un whg bajo y un yamnaya alto

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 06:21 PM
A 00% explícame como se pone?

O sea, no toques lo de ADD DIST COL, dejalo en 0, no lo pongas en x0.25, porque esas poblaciones antiguas no sirve de mucho ajustar la distancia.

Gallop
03-15-2020, 06:30 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.6954% / 0.03695393 | ADC: 0.25x
54.6 Anatolian_Farmer
30.0 Yamnaya
12.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian

0% fíjate que ignoraba esta acción, si es que no te acostarás sin saber algo nuevo.
Pues aquí está, no varía excesivamente.


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5723% / 0.03572269
52.4 Anatolian_Farmer
29.2 Yamnaya
13.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Iberomaurusian

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 07:15 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.6954% / 0.03695393 | ADC: 0.25x
54.6 Anatolian_Farmer
30.0 Yamnaya
12.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian

0% fíjate que ignoraba esta acción, si es que no te acostarás sin saber algo nuevo.
Pues aquí está, no varía excesivamente.


Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5723% / 0.03572269
52.4 Anatolian_Farmer
29.2 Yamnaya
13.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Iberomaurusian

Hostia... Pues la verdad es que el yamnaya esta un poquitin por encima de la media española, pero el Cazador tan alto, indica sangre vasca, fijo, los vascos y los balticos son los que mas sacan de WHG. El iberomaurusian esta nivelado, teoricamente un poquitin mas alto que la media, pero eso no indica sangre marroqui como los tontos guiris del foro nos quieren hacer creer, no existe alguien por encima del 50% en este componente, es como dijo el rubio galleguete, es sangre iberica antigua.

Felicidades, buenos resultados, y gracias por haberlos compartido.

mitalit
03-15-2020, 08:02 PM
no hay resultado malo

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 08:09 PM
no hay resultado malo

Es verdad, solo quise ser cortes.

Cristiano viejo
03-15-2020, 08:28 PM
Es verdad, solo quise ser cortes.

Yo quiero ser Hernando de Soto, o Sebastián de Belalcázar.

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 08:38 PM
Yo quiero ser Hernando de Soto, o Sebastián de Belalcázar.

Que simpático estás hombre... Venga un thumb up pa ti

mitalit
03-15-2020, 09:25 PM
que opináis?
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2014/10/10/dna-results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/

Duffmannn
03-15-2020, 09:37 PM
que opináis?
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2014/10/10/dna-results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/

De historia van un poquito mal, pone que el aporte norteafricano en Asturias viene por la ocupación islámica del 700 al 1500. Ya se desacreditan ellos solos.

Pero no es un error, no te engañes, es pura malicia.

mitalit
03-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Segun septentrio los españoles somos 74% Southern Europe + 9% Northern Africa + 5% Western and Central Europe + 5% Jewish Diaspora + 4% Asia Minor + 2% Great Britain and Ireland. Me pareceria muy bien si fuese verdad pero no lo es, y si intentas defenderte ya eres un nordicista. Luego si alguien osa decir que un belga es un 1% español se pone a la defensiva... y ademas esta todo el rato diciendo "sois blancos tranquilos" como si tuviesemos que tener su aceptacion.

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 09:55 PM
que opináis?
https://blog.nationalgeographic.org/2014/10/10/dna-results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/

Ya con que hayan puesto que los WHG trajeron el haplogrupo G y los EEF el R1a, no leí más.

Defcon2
03-15-2020, 09:59 PM
Segun septentrio los españoles somos 74% Southern Europe + 9% Northern Africa + 5% Western and Central Europe + 5% Jewish Diaspora + 4% Asia Minor + 2% Great Britain and Ireland. Me pareceria muy bien si fuese verdad pero no lo es, y si intentas defenderte ya eres un nordicista. Luego si alguien osa decir que un belga es un 1% español se pone a la defensiva... y ademas esta todo el rato diciendo "sois blancos tranquilos" como si tuviesemos que tener su aceptacion.

Parece una mala copia de un resultado de 23andMe, no tiene ni idea de lo que habla. No hagais caso.

En mi caso sería 55% de Anatolia.

Y todos me parecen nordicistas, debe ser lo más común aquí me sorprende que sea algo peyorativo en este foro.

gixajo
03-15-2020, 10:08 PM
El autor del estudio es Puertorriqueño que estudió en EEUU, creo:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/miguel-vilar-ab574874

El estudio es de 100 individuos, no sabemos como hizo la selección ni como de profundas eran sus raices en la zona, y solo se centra en proporción de haplotipos maternos y paternos. Osea que si eran 50 hombres y 50 mujeres, el porcentaje de haplotipos maternos se hizo con 100 individuos de muestra y el de paternos con...50.

Tan complicado es hacer un estudio con una muestra de población amplia y bien escogida, y no basada solo en haplotipos?

No tengo ni idea si el resultado sería similar, pero es que para hacer estudios tan poco fiables, mejor no hagas nada.

El mundo académico exige continuamente a todos los que deseen seguir en él a publicar trabajos y artículos continuamente y al final en vez de iluminar zonas oscuras del conocimiento o hallar nuevos caminos, no hacen más que embrollar todo y andar una y otra vez los caminos que ya se dan como verdad. Y que da la impresión de que de verdad tienen poco y más parece el tipo de verdad de la que hablaba Goebels. "Una mentira repetida mil veces se convierte en verdad".

Que yo tenga un haplotipo eslavo, no implica que tenga gran cosa de eslavo en mis resultados autosomales, así que ese 9/10% de gente con haplotipo supuestamente norteafricano, ¿Cuanto tiene de norteafricano en realidad?

Gallop
03-15-2020, 10:34 PM
El mío es de fundación egipcia y yo no sé lo que me queda de egipcio, la verdad y además supuestamente es anterior al Imperio romano, osea hay dos posibilidades época cartaginesa o una entrada temprana. Pero veo el cromático de MTA y mi única entrada cartaginesa es en el neolítico irlandés y con las muestras cartaginesas que coincido pasa como con las imperiales romanas o de Al-Andalus que son mezclas con diferentes etnias, lo de siempre, galo, latin, iberian, vascones, celtiberian, y puedes coincidir con ellas en la parte que te toca no en el todo. Abro kits antiguos Cogotas, ilergetes, vasones tribe vasconia, El Argar, La loma del puerco y todo Dios tiene cartaginés, así que quién sabe podría tratarse de una entrada temprana.

Con el autosomal se comprendió que en realidad los dos haplogrupos sólo hablaban de dos de tus antepasados; aunque sean tus padres, suena duro y cruel y hay que observarlo desde la perspectiva científica, más fría y calculadora.

Antes de llegar todo esto del autosomal la gente se podía pasar como una década hablando de los haplogrupos de sus padres y todo eran interpretaciones subjetivas, una flipada, menuda comedura de cerebelo al principio de todo esto, pero es lo único que había.

Todavía queda mucho por llegar.

Rocinante
03-15-2020, 10:44 PM
El mío es de fundación egipcia y yo no sé lo que me queda de egipcio, la verdad y además supuestamente es anterior al Imperio romano, osea hay dos posibilidades época cartaginesa o una entrada temprana. Pero veo el cromático de MTA y mi única entrada cartaginesa es en el neolítico irlandés y con las muestras cartaginesas que coincido pasa como con las imperiales romanas o de Al-Andalus que son mezclas con diferentes etnias, lo de siempre, galo, latin, iberian, vascones, celtiberian, y puedes coincidir con ellas en la parte que te toca no en el todo. Abro kits antiguos Cogotas, ilergetes, vasones tribe vasconia, El Argar, La loma del puerco y todo Dios tiene cartaginés, así que quién sabe podría tratarse de una entrada temprana.

Con el autosomal se comprendió que en realidad los dos haplogrupos sólo hablaban de dos de tus antepasados; aunque sean tus padres, suena duro y cruel y hay que observarlo desde la perspectiva científica, más fría y calculadora.

Antes de llegar todo esto del autosomal la gente se podía pasar como una década hablando de los haplogrupos de sus padres y todo eran interpretaciones subjetivas, una flipada, menuda comedura de cerebelo al principio de todo esto, pero es lo único que había.

Todavía queda mucho por llegar.

Ten en cuenta que el haplogrupo es un apellido genético que solo te dice quién era el padre de quién, más nada. Puedes ser 100% europeo como es tu caso, y tener un haplogrupo chino, como explicó el catedrático en el video que puse hace unos días. Pensé que el EV-22 era de agricultores de Anatolia.

gixajo
03-15-2020, 10:55 PM
El mío es de fundación egipcia y yo no sé lo que me queda de egipcio, la verdad y además supuestamente es anterior al Imperio romano, osea hay dos posibilidades época cartaginesa o una entrada temprana. Pero veo el cromático de MTA y mi única entrada cartaginesa es en el neolítico irlandés y con las muestras cartaginesas que coincido pasa como con las imperiales romanas o de Al-Andalus que son mezclas con diferentes etnias, lo de siempre, galo, latin, iberian, vascones, celtiberian, y puedes coincidir con ellas en la parte que te toca no en el todo. Abro kits antiguos Cogotas, ilergetes, vasones tribe vasconia, El Argar, La loma del puerco y todo Dios tiene cartaginés, así que quién sabe podría tratarse de una entrada temprana.

Con el autosomal se comprendió que en realidad los dos haplogrupos sólo hablaban de dos de tus antepasados; aunque sean tus padres, suena duro y cruel y hay que observarlo desde la perspectiva científica, más fría y calculadora.

Antes de llegar todo esto del autosomal la gente se podía pasar como una década hablando de los haplogrupos de sus padres y todo eran interpretaciones subjetivas, una flipada, menuda comedura de cerebelo al principio de todo esto, pero es lo único que había.

Todavía queda mucho por llegar.

Si los haplotipos vienen por ejemplo de 6 generaciones atrás, en ese momento tenía 64 personas que aportaban mis genes, y los haplotipos solo son de dos personas.Imagina el poco porcentaje de autosomal que tengo de esas dos personas, y pasa igual con los apellidos. El antepasado mío que llevara mi primera apellido hace 400 años, no me aporta más genes que todos los cientos de antepasados míos a la msima altura que él en mi árbol genealógico, aunque los apellidos de los otros igual estén en el puesto 32 de mi lista ordenada de apellidos.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 02:08 AM
Ten en cuenta que el haplogrupo es un apellido genético que solo te dice quién era el padre de quién, más nada. Puedes ser 100% europeo como es tu caso, y tener un haplogrupo chino, como explicó el catedrático en el video que puse hace unos días. Pensé que el EV-22 era de agricultores de Anatolia.

Tengo la impresión que debe ser antiguo pero una llegada de Anatolia a la península ibérica hasta nuestros días no acabo de verlo, tié que ser otra ruta, más que nada por intuición en base a los resultados claro.

Mi andaluz no es andalusí no te equivoques, ese periodo no existe en mi legado abstracto representativo cultural, ni imaginario personal o colectivo entre los andaluces, es una brecha, un abismo, algo que lees en los libros nada más pero que no está presente en la memoria de mi pasado y no cuenta al igual que al resto de andaluces salvo algún comunista romántico hijo de padres ricos que juega a las mil y una noches que por moda pretende recrearlo con 4 objetos decorativos en su casa, espero que haya quedado claro. Esto lo digo para que nos conozcas mejor y no creas que hablarle a un andaluz de Al-Andalus es hablarle de algo suyo porque te dirá que ese periodo era de cuando los moros u otro se puede sentir molesto porque esa no es su identidad, recuerda que toda la herencia de la agricultura y ganadería de la Andalucía actual es herencia de los pobladores de los reinos cristianos, vamos que nosotros la sangre de los animales nos la comemos con tomate.

Y no lo digo por ti, pero como soy andaluz y defiendo a Andalucía a muerte, nadie me, nos va a dar una identidad que no tenemos, ni tampoco lo vamos a consentir y si alguien está equivocado que se aclare.

Y si a los guiris le gusta la Al hambra o como se llame toda para ellos; aunque como escenario para el turismo y para que toda esa horda de turistas nórdicos, belgas o franceses se hagan todas las pajas mentales que quieran.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 08:45 AM
Tengo la impresión que debe ser antiguo pero una llegada de Anatolia a la península ibérica hasta nuestros días no acabo de verlo, tié que ser otra ruta, más que nada por intuición en base a los resultados claro.

Mi andaluz no es andalusí no te equivoques, ese periodo no existe en mi legado abstracto representativo cultural, ni imaginario personal o colectivo entre los andaluces, es una brecha, un abismo, algo que lees en los libros nada más pero que no está presente en la memoria de mi pasado y no cuenta al igual que al resto de andaluces salvo algún comunista romántico hijo de padres ricos que juega a las mil y una noches que por moda pretende recrearlo con 4 objetos decorativos en su casa, espero que haya quedado claro. Esto lo digo para que nos conozcas mejor y no creas que hablarle a un andaluz de Al-Andalus es hablarle de algo suyo porque te dirá que ese periodo era de cuando los moros u otro se puede sentir molesto porque esa no es su identidad, recuerda que toda la herencia de la agricultura y ganadería de la Andalucía actual es herencia de los pobladores de los reinos cristianos, vamos que nosotros la sangre de los animales nos la comemos con tomate.

Y no lo digo por ti, pero como soy andaluz y defiendo a Andalucía a muerte, nadie me, nos va a dar una identidad que no tenemos, ni tampoco lo vamos a consentir y si alguien está equivocado que se aclare.

Y si a los guiris le gusta la Al hambra o como se llame toda para ellos; aunque como escenario para el turismo y para que toda esa horda de turistas nórdicos, belgas o franceses se hagan todas las pajas mentales que quieran.

Hombre yo se que tu andaluz no es andalusi, lo decia de coña, y yo pensando que me captabas el humor, como buen andaluz.

Yo ya he conocido a varios andaluces, en especifico a una cordobesa, a un malagueño demasiado majete, a un profesor gaditano y a un tio de Jaen que creo que ha sido una de las personas mas acidas que he conocido en mi vida, al menos en mi vivencia aca en España. A mi me encanta preguntarle a la gente aqui sobre su tierra y tal, y lo bueno es que aqui a la mayoria les gusta responderte y contarte un poquito de ellas, y ya te digo una cosa, el andaluz que no esta asociado muy bien a la historia genetica de su gente, se comen con patatas el hecho de que son parcialmente arabes, esto el malagueño me lo insistia, y yo le decia bueno tio a ver si te haces una de esas pruebas geneticas y lo compruebas, porque no creo, y en efecto, si el tio arabe ni que nada, mas bien parecia alguien con un perfil vasco de cojones. Eso es super curioso. Pero como te digo hombre, no nos conocemos mucho todavia, pero ya te digo que yo la historia de este pais en terminos generales me la se muy bien, aunque enfoco siempre en el Noroeste y como vivo en Madrid, me ha tocado mamar un poquito de la historia de esta tierra, aunque ustedes tienen una historia muy bonita tambien.

Si comentare algo y esto lo he dicho en el thread de Arquitectura de España, y es que me llama la atencion el rechazo por las estructuras de origen andalusi que son majestuosas y que son parte del legado arquitectonico de este pais, de hecho, el Estado se mantiene en parte porque los guiris vienen a sorprenderse de lo que no hay ni tendran en sus paises, que son TODAS las estructuras historicas que hay dentro de todo el territorio. Pienso que el arte mudejar y andalusi, es parte de la historia sobre todo del Sur de esta nacion y que hay que respetarlas, no significa que tu genetica se vaya a ver modificada ni que tengas que rezarle a Alah, es cuestion de sencillamente respetarla y ya esta, cuidar de las estructuras que hay y el legado.

Vamos, respeto las opiniones y sobre todo, de los nativos de este pais y que han vivido toda la vida aqui, pero pienso que la Alhambra es magnifica, no he ido, pero ya con ser el monumento historico mas visitado de este pais, habiendo sido planificado por el rival mas fuerte que hemos tenido en la historia y muy muy seguramente construido por manos españolas, hombre, son de admirar, al menos para mi.

AlfonsoVIII
03-16-2020, 10:28 AM
Tengo la impresión que debe ser antiguo pero una llegada de Anatolia a la península ibérica hasta nuestros días no acabo de verlo, tié que ser otra ruta, más que nada por intuición en base a los resultados claro.

Mi andaluz no es andalusí no te equivoques, ese periodo no existe en mi legado abstracto representativo cultural, ni imaginario personal o colectivo entre los andaluces, es una brecha, un abismo, algo que lees en los libros nada más pero que no está presente en la memoria de mi pasado y no cuenta al igual que al resto de andaluces salvo algún comunista romántico hijo de padres ricos que juega a las mil y una noches que por moda pretende recrearlo con 4 objetos decorativos en su casa, espero que haya quedado claro. Esto lo digo para que nos conozcas mejor y no creas que hablarle a un andaluz de Al-Andalus es hablarle de algo suyo porque te dirá que ese periodo era de cuando los moros u otro se puede sentir molesto porque esa no es su identidad, recuerda que toda la herencia de la agricultura y ganadería de la Andalucía actual es herencia de los pobladores de los reinos cristianos, vamos que nosotros la sangre de los animales nos la comemos con tomate.

Y no lo digo por ti, pero como soy andaluz y defiendo a Andalucía a muerte, nadie me, nos va a dar una identidad que no tenemos, ni tampoco lo vamos a consentir y si alguien está equivocado que se aclare.

Y si a los guiris le gusta la Al hambra o como se llame toda para ellos; aunque como escenario para el turismo y para que toda esa horda de turistas nórdicos, belgas o franceses se hagan todas las pajas mentales que quieran.

Pues el regionalismo/nacionalismo andaluz se basa en gran parte en el mito romántico de la etapa andalusí. Cuando has hablado de "algún comunista romántico hijo de padres ricos que juega a las mil y una noches que por moda pretende recrearlo con 4 objetos decorativos en su casa" automáticamente he pensado en Blas Infante, te lo juro.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:02 AM
Tengo ya las coordenadas del g25, ¿Cuándo se usa la scaled y cuando la otra?

Y ya de paso, los expertos que vayan recomendándome alguna calculadora que usar, a ver que tal.

Vahaduo global Europe PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/orM3zyp.png

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 11:03 AM
Tengo ya las coordenadas del g25, ¿Cuándo se usa la scaled y cuando la otra?

Y ya de paso, los expertos que vayan recomendándome alguna calculadora que usar, a ver que tal.

Vahaduo global Europe PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/orM3zyp.png

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317476-G25-ANCIENT-COMPONENTS-2020 usa esa y postea los resultados.

Entra en el vahaduo y postea por aqui el World25 Nicola Scaled, es muy buena, y luego el K=50.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:23 AM
No veo el World25Nicola entre los scaled, el ultimate Modern World k=50 :

https://i.imgur.com/th3aVG4.png

https://i.imgur.com/NMXqexl.png

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 11:24 AM
Tengo ya las coordenadas del g25, ¿Cuándo se usa la scaled y cuando la otra?

Y ya de paso, los expertos que vayan recomendándome alguna calculadora que usar, a ver que tal.

Vahaduo global Europe PCA:

https://i.imgur.com/orM3zyp.png

Eres más vascoide que yo, sabes usar Vahaduo? copia y pega todo esto en Source, luego hazlo con tus coordenadas pero en Target, después en la pestaña Single le das al botoncito de la derecha donde ponga tu nombre (en mi caso Juan_scaled). Es escalado esta calculadora.

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/


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Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:28 AM
Eres más vascoide que yo, sabes usar Vahaduo? copia y pega todo esto en Source, luego hazlo con tus coordenadas pero en Target, después en la pestaña Single le das al botoncito de la derecha donde ponga tu nombre (en mi caso Juan_scaled). Es escalado esta calculadora.

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/


Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246


Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.8689% / 0.03868946 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4336% / 0.04433551 | ADC: 0.5x
51.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.4 WHG

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7521% / 0.03752133
54.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.0 WHG
2.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Distancias:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.14453454 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.15287673 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.19265516 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20083927 Levant_PPNB
0.21067559 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.33147490 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.34730661 WHG
0.39248266 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
0.45290775 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.46677332 Jarawa
0.62221794 Han
0.63209844 Nganassan
0.66513923 ETH_4500BP
0.67986061 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.72570987 Dinka
0.73904863 Gambian
0.76546303 Yoruba

Tu comentarás que ves aquí.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 11:30 AM
No veo el World25Nicola entre los scaled, el ultimate Modern World k=50 :

https://i.imgur.com/th3aVG4.png

https://i.imgur.com/NMXqexl.png

Interesante...

La World25 Nicola la ves en las calculadoras regional, no las custom. Postea esa y ve a mi thread, usa esa para ver componentes antiguos.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 11:30 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.8689% / 0.03868946 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4336% / 0.04433551 | ADC: 0.5x
51.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.4 WHG

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7521% / 0.03752133
54.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.0 WHG
2.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Distancias:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.14453454 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.15287673 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.19265516 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20083927 Levant_PPNB
0.21067559 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.33147490 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.34730661 WHG
0.39248266 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
0.45290775 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.46677332 Jarawa
0.62221794 Han
0.63209844 Nganassan
0.66513923 ETH_4500BP
0.67986061 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.72570987 Dinka
0.73904863 Gambian
0.76546303 Yoruba

Tu comentarás que ves aquí.

El WHG es muy alto, pensé que tu norteafricano era extremadamente bajo pero es normal.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:30 AM
Luego sigo, me reclaman...

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 11:31 AM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.8689% / 0.03868946 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.8 WHG
0.4 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4336% / 0.04433551 | ADC: 0.5x
51.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.4 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.4 WHG

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7521% / 0.03752133
54.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
29.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.0 WHG
2.2 MAR_Iberomaurusian

Distancias:

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.14453454 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.15287673 Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.19265516 Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps
0.20083927 Levant_PPNB
0.21067559 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
0.33147490 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
0.34730661 WHG
0.39248266 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728
0.45290775 MAR_Iberomaurusian
0.46677332 Jarawa
0.62221794 Han
0.63209844 Nganassan
0.66513923 ETH_4500BP
0.67986061 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
0.72570987 Dinka
0.73904863 Gambian
0.76546303 Yoruba

Tu comentarás que ves aquí.

Se nota muchisimo el vasco con tan alto WHG, es mas que el promedio, y el yamnaya esta en el average. Interesante amigo...

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:31 AM
Lo más llamativo es tu insultantemente poco norteafricano, eres la persona española con menos de ese componente que he visto, todo lo demás es normal.

Que raro, en el k36 d egedmatch me solía salir algo, y más árabe que norteafricano.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 11:35 AM
Que raro, en el k36 d egedmatch me solía salir algo, y más árabe que norteafricano.

No lo tomes en cuenta, vi tu 0.25x y esa calculadora no se usa la penalización. Es medio-bajo tu porcentaje.

Tu WHG si es menos común siendo elevado.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:51 AM
Alguno más que sea interesante ?

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:56 AM
World 25 Nicola Scaled:

https://i.imgur.com/RlcTDK9.png

https://i.imgur.com/9p9QZwW.png

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 12:02 PM
World 25 Nicola Scaled:

https://i.imgur.com/RlcTDK9.png

https://i.imgur.com/9p9QZwW.png

Nada de norafricano, ni rastro. Usa mi calculadora, la de mi thrad.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:02 PM
Ancient calculator Nicola unscaled:

https://i.imgur.com/8AO6Rly.png

https://i.imgur.com/ysAmjQd.png

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:03 PM
Ahí si sale NA Berber.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:04 PM
Ponme un enlace a tu thread.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 12:12 PM
Ponme un enlace a tu thread.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317476-G25-ANCIENT-COMPONENTS-2020

mitalit
03-16-2020, 12:17 PM
si tu sales tan vasco a tu madre que le saldrá.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:19 PM
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317476-G25-ANCIENT-COMPONENTS-2020

Lo puse también en tu thread:

https://i.imgur.com/hI6cet8.png

https://i.imgur.com/Xualzmz.png

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:23 PM
si tu sales tan vasco a tu madre que le saldrá.

Pues algo similar a lo que le puede salir a Erronkari supongo, algo menos supongo.

Suelo dar aproximadamente la mitad de vasco que él, o un poco menos de la mitad, teniendo en cuenta que él tiene como un 87,5% de antepasados vascos y yo un 50%, él será cosa de un 80% vasco y yo, por ser mi madre alavesa, y haciendo caso a perikolez que los alaveses somos menos vascos, entre 30/ 40% .

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:26 PM
Es que solo puedo basarme en Erronkari, porque no he visto ningún resultado de vascoide más puro que él por aquí, por ahora él es la referencia.

mitalit
03-16-2020, 12:26 PM
Pues algo similar a lo que le puede salir a Erronkari supongo, algo menos supongo.

Suelo dar aproximadamente la mitad de vasco que él, o un poco menos de la mitad, teniendo en cuenta que él tiene como un 87,5% de antepasados vascos y yo un 50%, él será cosa de un 80% vasco y yo, por ser mi madre alavesa, y haciendo caso a perikolez que los alaveses somos menos vascos, entre 30/ 40% .

"Culturalmente" puede, pero genéricamente estoy convencido de que sois igual de vascos que un giputxi

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:27 PM
Algún comentario de los resultados de tu calculador Celti?

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:29 PM
"Culturalmente" puede, pero genéricamente estoy convencido de que sois igual de vascos que un giputxi

Yo no, en todo caso mi madre. Yo creo que genéticamente mi madre saldría algo por debajo de un giputxi puro, no mucho, pero algo sí.

mitalit
03-16-2020, 12:33 PM
Los resultados de la calcu de alejandro diría que son normales. El whg un poco mas alto y el iberoma un poco mas bajo

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:36 PM
Los resultados de la calcu de alejandro diría que son normales. El whg un poco mas alto y el iberoma un poco mas bajo

Soy normal!!!

Es una buena noticia.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 12:38 PM
Xajo usa estas calculadoras:

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Religion_G25_calculator.htm

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316237-Reinos-Espa%F1oles-(only-iberian-people)

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:48 PM
Xajo usa estas calculadoras:

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Religion_G25_calculator.htm

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316237-Reinos-Espa%F1oles-(only-iberian-people)


https://i.imgur.com/cb1NYVf.png

https://i.imgur.com/dQvncn0.png

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 12:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cb1NYVf.png

https://i.imgur.com/dQvncn0.png

Sigo siendo el más asturiano y leonés.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 12:52 PM
Repetido

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 12:53 PM
Lo puse también en tu thread:

https://i.imgur.com/hI6cet8.png

https://i.imgur.com/Xualzmz.png

Lo dicho, al igual que la calculadora de Defconguito, tienes un estepario alrededor del promedio español, lo que si, el WHG esta por encima del promedio, que esta alrededor de 12, los vascos puros llegan a 18, que es una barbaridad, y luego los balticos tambien llegan a 18. La otra cosa curiosa es que estas tambien algo por debajo del promedio en ibero-mauritano, normal, teniendo sangre vasca ese ni asoma.

Por ahora el record de WHG te lo llevas tu, de Yamnaya es el mitad noruego mitad español de Xabi, y en musulman iberomaurusian yo. Ah bueno, y al parecer tambien llevas record en Agricultor.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 12:54 PM
Lo puse también en tu thread:

https://i.imgur.com/hI6cet8.png

https://i.imgur.com/Xualzmz.png

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jpJRq9Xixr8/Xm92HE1rwII/AAAAAAAADOk/NKFGTkzfdMw_Tlf1IoQtA7r1p0gPUrQFACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/yamayama.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B4W_GfR3LwY/Xm92NiqL3pI/AAAAAAAADOo/sZVhWe-k0gsGKkhtaIbk_DG-6gDTF6VBQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/yamayamadistance.jpeg

Pues sí que somos homogéneos los españoles.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 01:01 PM
Lo dicho, al igual que la calculadora de Defconguito, tienes un estepario alrededor del promedio español, lo que si, el WHG esta por encima del promedio, que esta alrededor de 12, los vascos puros llegan a 18, que es una barbaridad, y luego los balticos tambien llegan a 18. La otra cosa curiosa es que estas tambien algo por debajo del promedio en ibero-mauritano, normal, teniendo sangre vasca ese ni asoma.

Por ahora el record de WHG te lo llevas tu, de Yamnaya es el mitad noruego mitad español de Xabi, y en musulman iberomaurusian yo. Ah bueno, y al parecer tambien llevas record en Agricultor.

En farmer tengo yo más, pero conozco a gente con 59% de Anatolia.

Por cierto no entiendo por que tu componente moro es tan alto siendo usted algo siciliano cuando estos tienen menos de ese componente, la lógica dice que deberías tener menos de ese componente.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 01:10 PM
En farmer tengo yo más, pero conozco a gente con 59% de Anatolia.

Por cierto no entiendo por que tu componente moro es tan alto siendo usted algo siciliano cuando estos tienen menos de ese componente, la lógica dice que deberías tener menos de ese componente.

Yo tambien me estoy partiendo la cabeza con que el siciliano me tira mas "moro" y no poblaciones antiguas del occidente asiatico, de hecho, casi ninguna calculadora en G25 me tira eso. Mi lado siciliano al parecer es bastante europeo en comparacion a la media siciliana, y es por eso que saco el estepario que tengo supongo, no lo tengo claro.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 01:17 PM
Yo tambien me estoy partiendo la cabeza con que el siciliano me tira mas "moro" y no poblaciones antiguas del occidente asiatico, de hecho, casi ninguna calculadora en G25 me tira eso. Mi lado siciliano al parecer es bastante europeo en comparacion a la media siciliana, y es por eso que saco el estepario que tengo supongo, no lo tengo claro.

Puede que al ser un poco mixto no te tire los porcentajes correctamente, por mixto me refiero a personas con ascendencia de lugares dispares. Un hispano-chino debe sacar resultados muy exóticos por ejemplo.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 01:25 PM
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jpJRq9Xixr8/Xm92HE1rwII/AAAAAAAADOk/NKFGTkzfdMw_Tlf1IoQtA7r1p0gPUrQFACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/yamayama.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B4W_GfR3LwY/Xm92NiqL3pI/AAAAAAAADOo/sZVhWe-k0gsGKkhtaIbk_DG-6gDTF6VBQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/yamayamadistance.jpeg

Pues sí que somos homogéneos los españoles.

Practicamente iguales tú y yo.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 01:33 PM
Puede que al ser un poco mixto no te tire los porcentajes correctamente, por mixto me refiero a personas con ascendencia de lugares dispares. Un hispano-chino debe sacar resultados muy exóticos por ejemplo.

Lo curioso de eso de mixto y resultados dispares, es que siempre saco buenas distancias en mis resultados. Siempre que los resultados sean menores al 3% de distancia, son considerados fiables, ya por encima de ahi hay que tener el comodin de la duda.

Yo creo que por ejemplo, en la calculadora de componentes antiguos, tiene sentido mi resultado porque soy menos WHG que el español promedio (los sicilianos no tienen WHG), mas yamnaya (los sicilianos tienen yamnaya y los gallegos son los que mas tienen en la peninsula), menos agricultor (los gallegos son los que menos tienen y los sicilianos tienen casi por igual) y lo curioso, es el iberomaurusian, que capaz no sea en su totalidad ese componente y haya una pequeña parte levantina, pero vamos, toca por ahora confiar en que es asi.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 01:41 PM
Podrías poner algunas muestras de CHG a tu selección para ver qué movimientos hay

gixajo
03-16-2020, 01:55 PM
Este tiene CHG etc... K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K11%2010%20kybp%20WHG-EHG%20calculator.htm

gixajo
03-16-2020, 01:56 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.9930% / 0.04992968 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
21.4 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.0 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
5.4 CHG=GEO_CHG

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 5.7657% / 0.05765743 | ADC: 0.5x
71.2 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
25.0 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
3.8 WHG=BEL_Loschbour

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.8832% / 0.04883224
60.6 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
19.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
11.0 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
7.4 CHG=GEO_CHG
1.4 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian

mitalit
03-16-2020, 01:57 PM
Yo tambien me estoy partiendo la cabeza con que el siciliano me tira mas "moro" y no poblaciones antiguas del occidente asiatico, de hecho, casi ninguna calculadora en G25 me tira eso. Mi lado siciliano al parecer es bastante europeo en comparacion a la media siciliana, y es por eso que saco el estepario que tengo supongo, no lo tengo claro.

En cambio mi parte italiana si me tira mas a poblaciones del occidente asiatico

gixajo
03-16-2020, 01:59 PM
O este: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/Ancient%20G25%20World%20Neolithic-Eneolithic%20Calculator.htm

Ancient G25 World Neolithic-Eneolithic Calculator

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0889% / 0.03088915 | ADC: 0.25x
63.6 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic
26.4 STEPPE-Eneolithic
9.6 HUNTERS-SHG
0.4 IBEROMAURUSIAN

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.7495% / 0.03749498 | ADC: 0.5x
68.4 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic
24.6 STEPPE-Eneolithic
7.0 HUNTERS-SHG

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.7158% / 0.02715779
49.2 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic
28.6 STEPPE-Eneolithic
8.2 FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic
6.8 HUNTERS-WHG
5.0 HUNTERS-SHG
1.8 IBEROMAURUSIAN
0.4 LEVANT-Neolithic

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.12284951 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I0412
0.12493532 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:mur
0.13096115 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I1972
0.13125788 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I0409
0.14102464 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I0413
0.14298945 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I2199
0.15028248 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic:I0410
0.16023532 FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic:I3947
0.16290754 FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic:I1097
0.16697711 FARMERS-Barcin_Neolithic:I1581
0.16747430 FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic:I2533
0.17065771 FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic:I3498
0.18810273 MAYKOP:Novosvobodnaya:I6272
0.18995489 MAYKOP:Novosvobodnaya:I6267
0.19863932 MAYKOP:Novosvobodnaya:I6266
0.20155298 MAYKOP:Novosvobodnaya:I6268
0.20812970 LEVANT-Neolithic:I1170
0.22938827 STEPPE-Eneolithic:Progress_Eneolithic:PG2001
0.23592875 STEPPE-Eneolithic:Vonyuchka_Eneolithic:VJ1001
0.24497245 STEPPE-Eneolithic:Progress_Eneolithic:PG2004
0.26531892 HUNTERS-SHG:Sweden_Motala_HG:I0013
0.26766976 HUNTERS-SHG:Norway_Mesolithic:Hum2
0.27417398 HUNTERS-SHG:Norway_Mesolithic:Hum1
0.27529089 HUNTERS-SHG:Norway_N_HG:Steigen
0.28360770 HUNTERS-EHG:Sidelkino

mitalit
03-16-2020, 02:02 PM
Este tiene CHG etc... K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K11%2010%20kybp%20WHG-EHG%20calculator.htm

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 5.1075% / 0.05107547
57.4 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
22.8 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
10.0 CHG=GEO_CHG
7.2 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
2.6 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 5.2297% / 0.05229740 | ADC: 0.25x
61.2 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
24.6 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
8.2 CHG=GEO_CHG
5.2 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
0.8 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian

mitalit
03-16-2020, 02:02 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3681% / 0.03368083
45.8 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic
31.8 STEPPE-Eneolithic
9.4 FARMERS-Balkans_Neolithic
8.0 HUNTERS-SHG
3.8 IBEROMAURUSIAN
1.2 HUNTERS-WHG

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.5839% / 0.03583850 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 FARMERS-Iberia_Neolithic
32.4 STEPPE-Eneolithic
6.4 HUNTERS-SHG
1.6 IBEROMAURUSIAN

gixajo
03-16-2020, 02:07 PM
Y uno sencillito como este que te da Spaniard?

SUPREME regional calculator : http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/SUPREME%20regional%20calculator.htm

gixajo
03-16-2020, 02:10 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Yne5r5g.png

gixajo
03-16-2020, 02:13 PM
Voy a parar ya, porque esto es adictivo, y aún quedan muchos días de confinamiento.

mitalit
03-16-2020, 02:20 PM
Y uno sencillito como este que te da Spaniard?

SUPREME regional calculator : http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/SUPREME%20regional%20calculator.htm

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2565% / 0.02256463
81.4 Southern_Europe
15.8 Western_Europe
1.6 Central_Asia
1.2 North_African

arget: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2699% / 0.02269932 | ADC: 0.25x
82.6 Southern_Europe
16.2 Western_Europe
1.2 Central_Asia

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 02:48 PM
En cambio mi parte italiana si me tira mas a poblaciones del occidente asiatico

Tio pero es que eso porcentajes que te salen del occidente asiatico con muy pequeños, mas bien lo tuyo que si hay que tomar en cuenta es el gran porcentaje del centro y norte de Europa que te sale, que es lo curioso.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 02:50 PM
Podrías poner algunas muestras de CHG a tu selección para ver qué movimientos hay

Ya lo intente y el resultado es el mismo, esto porque creo que el CHG es parte de la cultura Yamnaya, aunque no estoy muy seguro. Lo cierto es que metiendo el CHG no lo coge.

Todo indica que el poquito ME/NA que herede del siciliano y del español se han fusionado en el 6.6 iberomaurisian.

mitalit
03-16-2020, 02:53 PM
En algunos gixajo me supera, ademas lo asiatico aunque sea poco me sale en todos los test geneticos

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 03:09 PM
Supreme.

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.2032% / 0.02203220
93.6 Southern_Europe
3.4 South_Asia
2.2 North_African
0.4 Africa_Central
0.2 Africa_South
0.2 Africa_West

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.2443% / 0.02244346 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Southern_Europe
3.0 South_Asia
1.4 North_African
0.2 Africa_Central
0.2 Africa_East

Jitano muy ibérico.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 03:21 PM
Hay una jugosa oferta en AncestryDNA. Asomen la cabeza.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 03:27 PM
Hay una jugosa oferta en AncestryDNA. Asomen la cabeza.

14 dias gratis?

Qué ofrecen?

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 03:29 PM
14 dias gratis?

Qué ofrecen?

El kit lo tienen en 59 Dolares, o sea, serian alrededor de 50 euros. A ver si le damos uno a los demás españoles del foro, como periko, CV y Rey Alfonso VIII. Aunque ya te digo que me gustaría uno para mí, porque el de myheritage es sencillamente una vergüenza.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 03:31 PM
Ah, la oferta del kit por 59 dólares...

gixajo
03-16-2020, 03:32 PM
El kit lo tienen en 59 Dolares, o sea, serian alrededor de 50 euros. A ver si le damos uno a los demás españoles del foro, como periko, CV y Rey Alfonso VIII. Aunque ya te digo que me gustaría uno para mí, porque el de myheritage es sencillamente una vergüenza.

Yo quiero el de 23andme antes.

AncestryDna te da también los haplotipos materno y paterno?

mitalit
03-16-2020, 03:39 PM
23andme me parece muy buena

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 03:41 PM
Yo quiero el de 23andme antes.

AncestryDna te da también los haplotipos materno y paterno?

No te los da, pero es mejor en cuestión de estimación étnica, el mejor de todos en este sentido porque te dice hasta las migraciones recientes, y además que sus datos en crudo incluyen cromosoma Y y X, por lo tanto, en lo que lo uses en el morley te va a dar un subclado super específico, incluyendo el mitocondrial usando otra página.

Te lo juro que me lo estoy pensando seriamente.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 03:44 PM
No te los da, pero es mejor en cuestión de estimación étnica, el mejor de todos en este sentido porque te dice hasta las migraciones recientes, y además que sus datos en crudo incluyen cromosoma Y y X, por lo tanto, en lo que lo uses en el morley te va a dar un subclado super específico, incluyendo el mitocondrial usando otra página.

Te lo juro que me lo estoy pensando seriamente.

Lo que no sé es hasta que punto en un momento como este van a permitir que muestras biológicas de saliva estén dando vueltas de un sitio a otro por el mundo.

¿No hay ninguna restricción sobre todo ésto?

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 03:45 PM
Lo que no sé es hasta que punto en un momento como este van a permitir que muestras biológicas de saliva estén dando vueltas de un sitio a otro por el mundo.

¿No hay ninguna restricción sobre todo ésto?

Pues eso es una buena pregunta. Igualmente para reservar el kit a ese precio, ya lo vale.

mitalit
03-16-2020, 03:46 PM
Lo que no entiendo muy bien es porque no te dan los haplogrupos directamente si es tan fácil sacarlos. Es una campaña de marketing pesima

gixajo
03-16-2020, 03:53 PM
Pues eso es una buena pregunta. Igualmente para reservar el kit a ese precio, ya lo vale.

Con un poco de suerte, igual vemos ofertas similares de otras compañías en poco tiempo, 23AndMe incluidos

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 04:06 PM
Con un poco de suerte, igual vemos ofertas similares de otras compañías en poco tiempo, 23AndMe incluidos

Esperemos a ver. Igualmente en esto del G25 y tal muy poquito va a cambiar, yo porque se lo quiero regalar a mi chica y quisiera saber más de mi R1b, pero por ahora con el G25 voy que chuto.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 04:12 PM
Guáita ke ehcogía má rexuletiya m´he hazío


https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vStUSLj3axc/Xm-i9mymYfI/AAAAAAAADO4/vlctU-9F20cBe0Aj7vlgxIJLKQ7FLwT3ACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CHGsingle.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-B65v_uNPLBA/Xm-jEnP-6UI/AAAAAAAADO8/8hKnyGWsCuM62guMcQznpCbW8IRZQAfnQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CHG.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KjQGiUtBru4/Xm-jMk6oj0I/AAAAAAAADPA/J-4olti_jjIBJTFB1RPwrLc1ynehmGFtwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/CHGdistance.jpeg


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South_European:Italian_Lombardy,0.1245224,0.147861 ,0.0279822,-0.0137598,0.0327446,-0.007753,0.000658,0,0.0103898,0.0299232,-0.0025008,0.008932,-0.0143606,-0.0047066,-0.0008686,-0.0078758,-0.0083448,0.0017738,0.0034442,-0.004102,-0.002246,0.0012366,-0.0006656,0.0030602,0.0008382
South_European:Italian_Lazio,0.1146768,0.1525832,0 .006694,-0.0350455,0.0213115,-0.0115738,0.0024675,0.000519,0.0068512,0.0234627,0 .001299,0.0028475,-0.007656,-0.0070875,-0.0068538,0.0041432,-0.000228,-0.0005068,0.0018225,-0.005065,-0.002745,0.0033695,-0.0003697,-0.0003613,-0.000479
South_European:Italian_Liguria,0.113823,0.146236,0 .027153,-0.011951,0.029236,-0.002231,0.00235,0.001154,0.009613,0.025331,-0.009743,0.002847,-0.013082,0.001101,-0.001086,-0.012463,-0.00665,-0.00038,0.003771,0.00075,-0.00025,0.000989,0.003944,0.000723,0.000599
South_European:Italian_Tuscany,0.1184471,0.1492194 ,0.0137412,-0.0205509,0.0266011,-0.0090291,-0.0007344,-0.0014855,0.0072478,0.0239299,-0.0001928,0.0051798,-0.0119671,-0.0047308,-0.0024516,-0.0003481,0.0044656,0.0004989,0.0036216,-0.0025873,-0.0012713,0.0023648,-0.0011016,0.0037429,-0.0014144
Southwest_European:Spanish_Pais_Vasco,0.128241,0.1 516523,0.0563163,0.008075,0.052112,0.0024173,0.000 235,0.002923,0.0277467,0.039849,-0.0059003,0.0093417,-0.02106,-0.012065,0.0184127,-0.002475,-0.0123433,0.0028713,0.0022207,-0.0065867,0.0077363,-0.002432,-0.006532,-0.006748,0.003672
Southwest_European:French:French_Occitanie,0.12703 91,0.1448823,0.048879,0.0179086,0.0433756,0.003416 4,0.0005222,0.0038909,0.0148564,0.0235894,-0.0032883,0.0065816,-0.0150436,-0.0094578,0.010737,0.0025671,-0.0037088,0.0024846,0.0014247,4.52e-05,0.0036706,0.0024456,-0.0025505,0.0017673,0.0004224
Southwest_European:Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon,0.10775 23,0.1438667,0.0404773,-0.0021533,0.0438027,0.0018593,-0.0017233,0.004615,0.0284287,0.0292183,-0.0023277,0.007843,-0.012091,-0.012019,0.01226,-0.006541,-0.0067797,-0.0017313,-0.004525,-0.0022927,0.000291,-0.0009067,0.0013147,-0.0025703,-0.002754
Southwest_European:Spanish_Canarias,0.081953,0.145 2205,0.0324325,-0.015827,0.042777,-0.009901,-0.00329,0.0043845,0.0302695,0.030069,-0.0003245,0.0047205,-0.0110755,-0.0139,0.016965,-0.0118665,-0.009388,-0.0055745,-0.0098675,-0.0016885,-0.000749,-0.0072335,0.0002465,-0.0054825,0.0017365
Southwest_Europeanortuguese,0.1061741,0.1446114,0. 0360075,-0.0044316,0.042137,-0.0040494,-0.0037412,0.0027598,0.0255982,0.029741,-0.000734,0.0074214,-0.0127373,-0.0112631,0.0125568,-0.0003978,-0.0011316,-0.0008869,-0.005762,-0.0002452,0.0011379,-0.002572,0.0013015,-0.0011326,-0.0001053
Southwest_European:Spanish_Andalucia,0.1096493,0.1 496213,0.0349467,-0.0047373,0.0433927,-0.004183,-0.00094,0.0002307,0.0188843,0.0302513,-0.0033563,0.0060943,-0.0142217,-0.0155517,0.006831,-0.0045083,-0.0028683,-0.0005913,-0.0023463,-0.0044603,0.0038267,-0.001113,-0.0011503,-0.0041367,-0.0003593
Southwest_European:Sardinian,0.1206524,0.1679686,0 .0276806,-0.0515508,0.0603188,-0.0224786,-0.003478,0.004292,0.0427048,0.0798558,-0.0020784,0.0158856,-0.0270266,-0.0131842,-0.0132192,-0.004614,0.0120476,-0.0013176,0.0017596,-0.012931,-0.0050908,-0.0042044,-0.0097122,-0.021087,0.0008382
Levantinealestinian,0.0455292,0.134253,-0.0473285,-0.0780045,-0.0126482,-0.0297299,-0.0062276,-0.0019845,0.0167504,-0.0003096,0.0081843,-0.0096364,0.0203072,-0.0013211,-0.00095,0.0097452,-0.0020079,-0.001761,8.81e-05,0.0025387,0.0011356,0.0052801,-0.0001603,0.0023977,0.001844
Levantine:Ashkenazi_Jew,0.0975627,0.1365163,-0.0110443,-0.0456814,0.0100237,-0.0167334,-0.0024171,-0.001879,0.0086776,0.013069,0.0026214,-0.0008779,0.0033343,0.0005504,-0.005351,1.89e-05,-0.0065006,0.0002896,-0.001203,-0.0028584,-0.0022284,-0.0021021,-7.06e-05,0.0011533,0.0014029
Levantine:Cypriot,0.0997375,0.146744,-0.0378534,-0.0702525,-0.0070011,-0.0242986,0.001645,-0.0047594,0.0029656,0.0138728,0.0044454,-0.0001499,0.0025459,0.0018234,-0.0086014,0.0008947,0.0023631,0.0009978,0.0022469,-0.0012506,-0.0024489,0.0011438,-0.0027115,0.0017774,-0.0020656
Levantine:Sephardic_Jew,0.0909445,0.1435961,-0.0216466,-0.0576555,0.00437,-0.0204705,-0.004841,-0.0021229,0.0105943,0.0195903,0.0046282,0.0004946, 0.0006837,-0.0007294,-0.0051845,-0.0035535,-0.0060366,0.0007095,-0.0024133,-0.0057653,-0.0038057,-0.0059724,0.0015282,0.002892,0.0017364
Levantine:Lebanese_Christian,0.0881496,0.1457849,-0.0488581,-0.0788479,-0.0128912,-0.03074,-0.0004961,-0.0042818,0.0051812,0.0102254,0.0066579,-0.0045293,0.0103899,0,-0.0103147,0.0084709,-0.0021007,0.0017877,0.0025419,-0.0001251,0.0007627,-0.0003022,-0.0014104,0.0023564,-0.0012108
Levantine:Syrian,0.0647593,0.1259791,-0.0488273,-0.060962,-0.0190156,-0.0195664,-0.0032034,-0.0024897,-0.0016685,-0.0018415,0.0023845,-0.0054188,0.0109304,0.0005794,-0.0027502,0.0051012,-0.0038155,-0.0006535,0.0020773,0.0003554,0.0015368,0.0001432,-0.0023935,-0.0007419,6.2e-06
North_African:Berber_Tunisia_Sen,-0.0391015,0.1347667,-0.0189668,-0.0779,0.0188088,-0.0355667,-0.0216624,0.005864,0.0576878,0.0205605,0.0056455,-0.0122362,0.0263216,-0.009407,0.0124783,-0.0050072,-0.0056909,-0.0131682,-0.0303375,0.0115203,-0.0085143,-0.0241851,0.0149999,-4.95e-05,0.0005494
North_African:Libyan,-0.0476858,0.1309498,-0.0219326,-0.080954,0.0089733,-0.0345677,-0.020953,0.0030243,0.0520675,0.0098215,0.0061365,-0.0123917,0.0292235,-0.0049978,0.0085218,-0.0005094,-0.003788,-0.0095751,-0.0201184,0.0112686,-0.0028108,-0.0132634,0.0093993,0.0007991,-0.0002963
North_African:Moroccan,-0.0853671,0.1302133,-0.0128221,-0.0708806,0.0211321,-0.03294,-0.0277833,0.0097687,0.0554032,0.0243993,0.0095087,-0.0090252,0.0269902,-0.0144658,0.0163016,-0.0061874,-0.0027669,-0.0170326,-0.0384216,0.0094351,-0.0098438,-0.0295119,0.0209111,-0.0011248,0.0059207
North_African:Algerian,-0.0680567,0.1327805,-0.0071652,-0.0677358,0.0212218,-0.0300737,-0.0221204,0.007442,0.0530313,0.0250954,0.0055076,-0.0061695,0.0208558,-0.0138598,0.0130235,-0.0101707,-0.0033574,-0.0164009,-0.0316446,0.0071597,-0.0096392,-0.0282908,0.0181892,-0.0002661,0.0012922
North_African:Mozabite,-0.0649782,0.135551,-0.0032793,-0.0717622,0.0260249,-0.0328364,-0.0260656,0.0108257,0.0617306,0.0303463,0.0065097,-0.006366,0.021795,-0.0165685,0.0163159,-0.016176,-0.0027097,-0.0219282,-0.0435571,0.0082757,-0.0146263,-0.0367947,0.0246817,-0.0042277,0.0056594
North_African:Tunisian,-0.048517,0.1313841,-0.0150849,-0.0751379,0.019619,-0.0306779,-0.022091,0.005019,0.0543778,0.0197954,0.0054402,-0.0080365,0.0267404,-0.0101842,0.013046,-0.0071432,-0.003716,-0.0129222,-0.0290048,0.0051745,-0.0104502,-0.0228294,0.0181174,-0.0033439,0.0002096
Gulf_Arab:Yemenite_Mahra,0.0542556,0.1360809,-0.0682589,-0.1211978,-0.0037272,-0.056305,-0.0130301,-0.0088204,0.0628798,-0.002045,0.0167981,-0.0325711,0.0657411,0.0058413,0.0080528,0.0270778,-0.0210643,0.0028717,-0.0019133,0.0248312,0.0137259,0.0160887,-0.0087369,0.0027848,-0.0052289
Gulf_Arab:BedouinB,0.041925,0.1439232,-0.0598156,-0.1169808,-0.0093179,-0.0480622,-0.0141008,-0.0087432,0.05154,-0.0052038,0.0158689,-0.0305729,0.0629496,0.004855,0.0043959,0.0288529,-0.0199706,0.00366,-0.0040153,0.029,0.0109668,0.0152299,-0.0039166,0.0071025,-0.0083092
Gulf_Arab:Saudi,0.0494498,0.1411588,-0.0646136,-0.1161014,-0.0115919,-0.0481242,-0.0133696,-0.008179,0.0516537,-0.0058923,0.016293,-0.0318551,0.063346,0.0021408,0.0031818,0.0271809,-0.0220493,0.0042931,-0.0003213,0.0302646,0.0130601,0.0168853,-0.0072031,0.0082741,-0.0097528
Gulf_Arab:Yemenite_Al_Bayda,0.0386997,0.1386198,-0.0626647,-0.1073983,-0.0101557,-0.0484803,-0.0131608,-0.0101533,0.0541308,-0.0059835,0.0109612,-0.0287995,0.0509163,0.004106,0.0063788,0.0241973,-0.018471,0.0071578,0.0008378,0.0179253,0.0097745,0 .0161778,-0.0074358,0.0011248,-0.003752
Gulf_Arab:Yemenite_Amran,0.0458544,0.135428,-0.0615246,-0.1014453,-0.0148599,-0.0421523,-0.0087289,-0.0077631,0.0450098,-0.0042566,0.0117499,-0.0229617,0.0465096,0.0052591,0.003994,0.0172555,-0.0141374,0.0042531,0.0018316,0.0157038,0.0069254, 0.0095212,-0.0063297,0.0041742,-0.0047812
Gulf_Arab:BedouinA,0.0285823,0.1335987,-0.047601,-0.0827598,-0.0138829,-0.0323513,-0.0107061,-0.0046408,0.0234522,-0.0016198,0.0081734,-0.0107237,0.0247439,0.0004741,0.0015682,0.0070567,-0.0027381,-0.0022382,-0.0034079,0.008254,0.0002081,0.002528,0.0001916,0. 0017672,-0.0015967
Caucasian:Georgian_Laz,0.1085872,0.1368936,-0.05423,-0.0564604,-0.0306518,-0.0085342,0.0089304,-0.0047078,-0.0495356,-0.0129754,0.0028904,0.009981,-0.017988,0.0041012,-0.0040446,-0.0167592,0.0126994,-0.003446,-0.0029916,0.010455,0.0063636,0.0020278,-0.0013802,-0.0086758,-0.0011016
Caucasian:Turkish_Azer,0.0948527,0.0968137,-0.0478943,-0.038114,-0.036417,-0.0064147,0.0043083,-0.0051537,-0.025702,-0.00814,-0.002544,9.97e-05,-0.0002477,0.0027523,0.000362,-0.0067177,-0.012734,0.0056587,0.0054887,-0.0056693,0.0002493,0.000618,-0.002177,-0.0028113,0.002355
Caucasian:Armenian,0.1028676,0.1379851,-0.0581239,-0.0608451,-0.0286976,-0.0158969,0.0046413,-0.0057114,-0.0304485,-0.0043964,0.0012991,-0.0002249,-0.003029,0.0024773,-0.0046145,-0.0014582,0.0004075,0.0008232,0.0025769,-0.0027984,0.0001561,0.0024885,-0.0022492,-0.0021838,-1.51e-05
Caucasian:North_Ossetian,0.103579,0.0873353,-0.0301697,-0.023902,-0.0405203,0.0052987,0.0123773,-0.0014617,-0.05379,-0.030555,-0.0025983,0.0074933,-0.0183347,-0.0023857,0.010903,-0.0201977,0.0035637,-0.006292,-0.0139527,0.016633,0.0067797,0.0016483,-0.001479,-0.0090373,-0.0029937
Caucasian:Chechen,0.1123053,0.1018914,-0.0315944,-0.0087928,-0.0350833,0.0090174,0.0085908,-0.0059229,-0.0552894,-0.0321748,-0.0009924,0.0075766,-0.0172117,-0.0052144,0.0110386,-0.0084268,0.0047664,-0.0058277,-0.0104608,0.0116306,0.0038682,0.002748,0.0039849,0 .0071494,-0.0046036
Caucasian:Georgian_Imer,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
Balkan:Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.005 3618,0.02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
Balkan:Gagauz,0.1216643,0.1343884,0.0200294,-0.002907,0.0195591,0.0013326,0.0068674,0.0046922,-0.003636,0.0036244,-0.0016419,-0.0020814,-0.0014701,0.010123,-0.0104504,-0.0047437,0.0034333,-0.0002674,0.0036034,-0.0029041,-0.0064884,-0.0009343,0.0036838,-0.0049268,6.66e-05
Balkan:Greek_Crete,0.1104083,0.144205,-0.0155877,-0.0486653,0.004821,-0.0173843,0.00329,-0.003692,-0.0032727,0.012635,0.0023277,0.0017483,-0.0005947,0.0042663,-0.0078263,0.0024307,0.0099963,0.0045187,0.0010053,-0.0016257,-0.0014143,-0.0002473,-0.0002053,-0.000241,-0.000439
Balkan:Albanian,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.0155562,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279, 0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
Balkan:Greek,0.1181231,0.1434154,0.0131992,-0.0191288,0.0202087,-0.005206,0.0016581,-0.0003717,0.0006363,0.0135361,0.000433,0.0022146,-0.0031218,0.007661,-0.0169649,-0.0018488,0.0083735,0.0005772,0.0052094,-0.0036058,-0.0072165,0.0013808,0.0019583,-0.0008969,-0.0013772
Balkan:Macedonian,0.1252056,0.1413618,0.0305468,0. 0042636,0.027328,0.005522,0.0063922,0.0037382,0.00 02864,0.0033532,-3.24e-05,6e-05,0.0026462,0.011588,-0.0157436,-0.0011934,0.0079794,0.0006586,0.0042986,-0.0044772,-0.0116544,-0.0006678,0.0039934,-0.0009884,-0.0003352
Iranian:Iranian_Lor,0.0878713,0.1066306,-0.0673914,-0.035207,-0.04647,-0.0066655,0.0049585,-0.0040846,-0.0278356,-0.0126473,0.00354,-0.0009141,0.0036273,-0.0007707,0.0054153,0.0096127,-0.0039114,0.0041173,0.0059958,-0.0108927,-0.0014599,-0.005008,-0.0020705,-0.0059406,0.005748
Iranian:Iranian_Seyyed,0.0813834,0.0918039,-0.0670521,-0.0250971,-0.0456393,-0.001255,0.0037131,-0.0039691,-0.0256882,-0.0161279,0.0009419,-0.0049007,0.007106,-0.0033718,0.005836,0.0132854,-0.0052543,0.0026733,0.0015334,-0.0073411,0.0014723,-0.0024483,0.0010722,-0.0061093,0.0049216
Iranian:Kurdish,0.0961287,0.114847,-0.0617106,-0.0374093,-0.0420496,-0.0071751,0.0067085,-0.0027271,-0.0304182,-0.0135847,0.0002955,-0.0004632,0.0019326,-0.0017389,0.0034053,0.0138254,0.0018016,0.0018313, 0.0001142,-0.0092317,0.0005671,-0.0052384,0.0002241,-0.0027385,0.0027868
Iranian:Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.0916275,0.1077846,-0.0632191,-0.0225219,-0.045365,0.0040439,0.0018586,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.0168403,-0.0002509,0.000361,0.0043652,-0.0049418,0.0071253,0.0135542,-0.0035262,0.002885,0.0017313,-0.0087712,-0.0032216,-0.0037657,0.0006777,-0.003489,0.0053669
Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani,0.0899202,0.1019592,-0.078969,-0.0211888,-0.0587494,0.0059124,0.0076142,-0.0050536,-0.0413752,-0.0212669,-0.001364,-0.0018884,-7.42e-05,0.0011561,0.0055918,0.0107134,-0.0063759,0.0032811,0.0041982,-0.0140192,-0.0009108,-0.0076911,-0.001553,-0.0053742,0.0050414
Iranian:Iranian_Fars,0.0885141,0.0956389,-0.0638664,-0.024092,-0.0460899,0.0007546,0.0044097,-0.0052124,-0.0285852,-0.0148255,0.0007832,-0.0010579,0.0047396,-0.00255,0.0045506,0.0118005,-0.0054146,0.0015202,0.0019668,-0.008938,-0.0004036,-0.0033604,0.0012905,-0.0044371,0.0040645
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Caucasian,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG=BEL_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian=Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG=Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA=Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG=Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Celtic,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.034238,0.0481 625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.018509,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Celtic,0.127482,0.156392,0.047894,0.005491,0.04647 ,-0.011435,0.00329,0.011538,0.010022,0.031345,0.0064 96,0.012889,-0.012487,-0.01156,-0.0095,0.000796,0.001565,-0.003801,-0.005656,0.005753,-0.002995,0.009521,-0.001356,-0.006386,-0.011855
Caucasian:Georgian_Laz,0.1085872,0.1368936,-0.05423,-0.0564604,-0.0306518,-0.0085342,0.0089304,-0.0047078,-0.0495356,-0.0129754,0.0028904,0.009981,-0.017988,0.0041012,-0.0040446,-0.0167592,0.0126994,-0.003446,-0.0029916,0.010455,0.0063636,0.0020278,-0.0013802,-0.0086758,-0.0011016
Caucasian:Turkish_Azer,0.0948527,0.0968137,-0.0478943,-0.038114,-0.036417,-0.0064147,0.0043083,-0.0051537,-0.025702,-0.00814,-0.002544,9.97e-05,-0.0002477,0.0027523,0.000362,-0.0067177,-0.012734,0.0056587,0.0054887,-0.0056693,0.0002493,0.000618,-0.002177,-0.0028113,0.002355
Caucasian:Armenian,0.1028676,0.1379851,-0.0581239,-0.0608451,-0.0286976,-0.0158969,0.0046413,-0.0057114,-0.0304485,-0.0043964,0.0012991,-0.0002249,-0.003029,0.0024773,-0.0046145,-0.0014582,0.0004075,0.0008232,0.0025769,-0.0027984,0.0001561,0.0024885,-0.0022492,-0.0021838,-1.51e-05
Caucasian:North_Ossetian,0.103579,0.0873353,-0.0301697,-0.023902,-0.0405203,0.0052987,0.0123773,-0.0014617,-0.05379,-0.030555,-0.0025983,0.0074933,-0.0183347,-0.0023857,0.010903,-0.0201977,0.0035637,-0.006292,-0.0139527,0.016633,0.0067797,0.0016483,-0.001479,-0.0090373,-0.0029937
Caucasian:Chechen,0.1123053,0.1018914,-0.0315944,-0.0087928,-0.0350833,0.0090174,0.0085908,-0.0059229,-0.0552894,-0.0321748,-0.0009924,0.0075766,-0.0172117,-0.0052144,0.0110386,-0.0084268,0.0047664,-0.0058277,-0.0104608,0.0116306,0.0038682,0.002748,0.0039849,0 .0071494,-0.0046036
Caucasian:Georgian_Imer,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
Balkan:Bulgarian,0.12475,0.1348622,0.0256442,0.005 3618,0.02462,-0.0008368,0.005499,0.0030458,-0.0002862,0.0069978,-0.0033452,0.0008992,0.002111,0.0086426,-0.0143046,-0.0022274,0.0070928,0.0020016,0.0031424,-0.0037018,-0.0046168,-0.000544,0.00281,-0.0024824,-0.0010776
Balkan:Gagauz,0.1216643,0.1343884,0.0200294,-0.002907,0.0195591,0.0013326,0.0068674,0.0046922,-0.003636,0.0036244,-0.0016419,-0.0020814,-0.0014701,0.010123,-0.0104504,-0.0047437,0.0034333,-0.0002674,0.0036034,-0.0029041,-0.0064884,-0.0009343,0.0036838,-0.0049268,6.66e-05
Balkan:Greek_Crete,0.1104083,0.144205,-0.0155877,-0.0486653,0.004821,-0.0173843,0.00329,-0.003692,-0.0032727,0.012635,0.0023277,0.0017483,-0.0005947,0.0042663,-0.0078263,0.0024307,0.0099963,0.0045187,0.0010053,-0.0016257,-0.0014143,-0.0002473,-0.0002053,-0.000241,-0.000439
Balkan:Albanian,0.1181863,0.1417511,0.0155562,-0.0158808,0.0251586,-0.0074138,0.0033683,0.0018077,0.0006648,0.0161279, 0.0011097,0.0015486,-0.0070986,0.0066059,-0.019295,-0.0041544,0.0081273,0.0014992,0.0082962,-0.0059402,-0.0055629,0.0007212,0.0024238,0.0021991,-0.0025248
Balkan:Greek,0.1181231,0.1434154,0.0131992,-0.0191288,0.0202087,-0.005206,0.0016581,-0.0003717,0.0006363,0.0135361,0.000433,0.0022146,-0.0031218,0.007661,-0.0169649,-0.0018488,0.0083735,0.0005772,0.0052094,-0.0036058,-0.0072165,0.0013808,0.0019583,-0.0008969,-0.0013772
Balkan:Macedonian,0.1252056,0.1413618,0.0305468,0. 0042636,0.027328,0.005522,0.0063922,0.0037382,0.00 02864,0.0033532,-3.24e-05,6e-05,0.0026462,0.011588,-0.0157436,-0.0011934,0.0079794,0.0006586,0.0042986,-0.0044772,-0.0116544,-0.0006678,0.0039934,-0.0009884,-0.0003352
Iranian:Iranian_Lor,0.0878713,0.1066306,-0.0673914,-0.035207,-0.04647,-0.0066655,0.0049585,-0.0040846,-0.0278356,-0.0126473,0.00354,-0.0009141,0.0036273,-0.0007707,0.0054153,0.0096127,-0.0039114,0.0041173,0.0059958,-0.0108927,-0.0014599,-0.005008,-0.0020705,-0.0059406,0.005748
Iranian:Iranian_Seyyed,0.0813834,0.0918039,-0.0670521,-0.0250971,-0.0456393,-0.001255,0.0037131,-0.0039691,-0.0256882,-0.0161279,0.0009419,-0.0049007,0.007106,-0.0033718,0.005836,0.0132854,-0.0052543,0.0026733,0.0015334,-0.0073411,0.0014723,-0.0024483,0.0010722,-0.0061093,0.0049216
Iranian:Kurdish,0.0961287,0.114847,-0.0617106,-0.0374093,-0.0420496,-0.0071751,0.0067085,-0.0027271,-0.0304182,-0.0135847,0.0002955,-0.0004632,0.0019326,-0.0017389,0.0034053,0.0138254,0.0018016,0.0018313, 0.0001142,-0.0092317,0.0005671,-0.0052384,0.0002241,-0.0027385,0.0027868
Iranian:Iranian_Zoroastrian,0.0916275,0.1077846,-0.0632191,-0.0225219,-0.045365,0.0040439,0.0018586,-0.005318,-0.028373,-0.0168403,-0.0002509,0.000361,0.0043652,-0.0049418,0.0071253,0.0135542,-0.0035262,0.002885,0.0017313,-0.0087712,-0.0032216,-0.0037657,0.0006777,-0.003489,0.0053669
Iranian:Iranian_Mazandarani,0.0899202,0.1019592,-0.078969,-0.0211888,-0.0587494,0.0059124,0.0076142,-0.0050536,-0.0413752,-0.0212669,-0.001364,-0.0018884,-7.42e-05,0.0011561,0.0055918,0.0107134,-0.0063759,0.0032811,0.0041982,-0.0140192,-0.0009108,-0.0076911,-0.001553,-0.0053742,0.0050414
Iranian:Iranian_Fars,0.0885141,0.0956389,-0.0638664,-0.024092,-0.0460899,0.0007546,0.0044097,-0.0052124,-0.0285852,-0.0148255,0.0007832,-0.0010579,0.0047396,-0.00255,0.0045506,0.0118005,-0.0054146,0.0015202,0.0019668,-0.008938,-0.0004036,-0.0033604,0.0012905,-0.0044371,0.0040645
Caucasian,0.108132,0.1332374,-0.0619988,-0.0459952,-0.0383456,-0.0089246,0.0113746,-0.0056768,-0.0639748,-0.0175312,-0.0004546,0.0130384,-0.0251532,0.0072388,0.001873,-0.0238662,0.0070668,-0.0044088,-0.0095026,0.0153074,0.0115046,0.0013602,2.46e-05,-0.0070852,-0.0017964
ALANI,0.10551405,0.09652585,-0.0268227,-0.0158593,-0.03491415,0.0046433,0.0087012,-0.00262495,-0.0505532,-0.0279596,0.0006739,0.0092092,-0.0180769,-0.0042424,0.00927995,-0.0107365,0.0067995,-0.00590995,-0.01134125,0.0106646,0.0056087,0.00309745,-0.0012109,-0.0042084,-0.0033021
ARMENII,0.10079025,0.1256379,-0.0602451,-0.0508456,-0.03495005,-0.01150435,0.00403415,-0.0062382,-0.03113865,-0.0087077,0.0021247,-0.0013913,-0.0004907,-0.00028215,-0.0011469,0.00707595,0.000528,0.0028377,0.0014602,-0.00461275,0.0024498,-0.0010799,-0.001366,-0.0030824,0.00157665
BRITANNICI,0.127197,0.1414125,0.06071675,0.052003, 0.0427,0.02224175,0.00423,0.007038,0.000767,0.0031 4375,-0.00150225,0.011952,-0.016687,-0.0180285,0.0250405,0.0044085,-0.01101775,-0.00063375,0.01049575,0.00037475,0.00723725,0.0034 625,-0.00123225,0.015062,-0.00128725
FENNI,0.12821106,0.08217224,0.0877019,0.07558852,0 .02812794,0.02330006,0.00945382,0.01431178,0.00073 578,-0.0271109,0.00380542,-0.00917938,0.01675954,0.00877946,-0.00398658,-0.00046744,-0.00295628,-0.00030438,-0.00126118,0.00304446,0.00434514,-0.00052922,0.0031485,0.0014295,0.00321256
GERMANI,0.130611875,0.135573,0.06316775,0.05838225 ,0.03946875,0.02014975,0.0048175,0.005595875,0.003 476875,-0.00316625,-0.002578,0.0025665,-0.01007175,-0.0053845,0.014284625,-0.000066125,-0.012810125,0.0033255,0.001602625,0.00456475,0.005 677375,0.007774625,-0.000724125,0.010603875,0.001063
HISPANI,0.114898,0.1480416,0.0388959,-0.002763433,0.044110667,-0.0030445,-0.0010575,0.0016345,0.022810033,0.0336986,-0.002539633,0.008363267,-0.015716733,-0.0135904,0.0099566,-0.002784433,-0.004552567,-0.000524367,-0.001567733,-0.0013826,0.0042494,0.0001545,-0.001122933,-0.003025733,-0.000558867
HYPERBOREIS,0.110484233,-0.007514967,0.086536633,0.0621775,-0.0146488,0.0074278,0.0115314,0.015953233,-0.005304033,-0.0341692,0.018165867,-0.011644667,0.0260503,-0.021547033,-0.022611033,-0.014483233,-0.002399033,-0.0047593,-0.021783333,-0.018333833,0.008227133,0.002398967,-0.0267858,0.0059606,-0.000997867
MAURI,-0.057146275,0.13211965,-0.01563165,-0.075878325,0.017389075,-0.033474525,-0.024877075,0.006419875,0.0544526,0.019613775,0.00 7139175,-0.009233575,0.02750335,-0.01045645,0.01275205,-0.00641535,-0.003517875,-0.01360785,-0.0297658,0.00822965,-0.00929725,-0.021574125,0.017312175,-0.001599225,0.001903775
SCYTHI,0.10686095,-0.0078873,0.05555615,0.0331075,-0.00403155,0.0067631,0.00819765,0.0089341,-0.0091763,-0.0183938,-0.0021408,-0.0052428,0.0103369,0.0019543,-0.00619555,-0.00733445,-0.00503715,-0.001269,-0.0030378,-0.00344745,-0.0044505,-0.00100985,-0.0035537,-0.0010041,0.00166245
SYRIA,0.0779005,0.140862317,-0.049552183,-0.07625315,-0.01341265,-0.0280877,-0.0022596,-0.0049259,0.005633517,0.0059524,0.006478967,-0.005694167,0.013281817,0.002474917,-0.006286267,0.006332683,-0.003021317,0.000583817,0.002323583,-0.000538433,-0.000941717,0.0013805,-0.0006459,0.0009524,0.001424067
VASCONES,0.12997965,0.15121785,0.05672945,0.010915 6,0.0569969,0.0013169,-0.0023631,0.00186655,0.03097855,0.04340165,-0.0069006,0.01097355,-0.0218771,-0.0163932,0.0155822,0.0008956,-0.00886335,0.00290045,-0.00126605,-2.24E-03,0.00947355,0.00248615,-0.007764,-0.00910345,0.00116685
VENEDI,0.133744781,0.124673213,0.080681834,0.07416 3569,0.040129409,0.028191894,0.011110775,0.0127362 19,-0.001451781,-0.030124669,-0.003240006,-0.010489831,0.018563675,0.0254115,-0.0121545,0.000937722,0.004147163,-1.66188E-05,0.001855009,0.00310555,-0.001529628,-0.004516381,0.007562519,-0.007283575,0.001306738
OSTROGOTHAE,0.104717,0.066009,0.039221,0.011305,0. 001846,0.018965,0.001175,0.001615,-0.01493,-0.005832,-0.001299,0.006444,0.000446,-0.003991,0.012893,0.001193,0.001825,-0.005828,0.005028,0.001126,0.002121,-0.009892,-0.008134,0.004217,-0.003592
GALLI,0.127482,0.142174,0.054682,0.031977,0.048009 ,0.016455,-0.00188,0.00923,0.003068,0.010934,-0.008119,0.006294,-0.017839,-0.009083,0.02253,0.016309,0.007693,0.006334,0.0076 68,0.003377,0.012104,0.004946,-0.008627,0.006868,-0.001916
ITALI,0.11657375,0.1570684,0.02108735,-0.0366874,0.04123835,-0.01659385,-0.0024871,-0.00034625,0.02379315,0.05104125,-0.00242235,0.01242625,-0.0203294,-0.00945025,-0.0058021,-0.00514885,-0.000239,-0.00003175,0.0010264,-0.0113699,-0.003556,-0.00120575,-0.0031636,-0.00922815,-0.00257465
GRAECI,0.1098395,0.14319,0.005468,-0.035207,0.008001,-0.0082275,0.0012925,-0.001731,-0.00317,0.010661,0.0035725,0.004271,-0.003791,0.007432,-0.0172365,-0.003182,0.0072365,0.005511,0.004525,-0.0070655,-0.0048665,0.0008655,-0.0028345,-0.00235,0.0008385
ILLYRII,0.12236,0.1391275,0.0254555,-0.004522,0.0267745,-0.0013945,0.0015275,0.0050765,-0.0091015,0.009476,-0.0014615,0.0003745,-0.0018585,0.0046105,-0.0181865,-0.002254,0.005541,0.0017105,0.0040855,-0.007003,-0.0028075,-0.0005565,0.000986,-0.001747,-0.000958
North_Caucasus:RUS_Alan_MA_DA146,0.106994,0.112724 ,-0.045632,0.000969,-0.028621,0.022869,0.011516,-0.014769,-0.06238,-0.039363,-0.000974,0.021881,-0.012785,-0.015276,0.019544,0.018695,-0.000652,-0.008995,0.005908,-0.008129,0.002496,0.012984,0.007395,0.004097,-0.004311
North_Caucasus:RUS_Alan_MA_DA160,0.105855,0.098506 ,-0.02489,-0.02584,-0.028313,-0.006972,0.008695,-0.008307,-0.040496,-0.013668,0.004709,0.003447,-0.025718,0.000413,-0.000814,-0.020817,-0.008996,-0.007348,-0.016718,0.003502,0.009608,0.006306,-0.003697,-0.009519,-0.008622
North_Caucasus:RUS_Alan_MA_DA162,0.10927,0.107646,-0.025267,-0.018411,-0.025851,0.001952,0.003525,-0.001615,-0.041927,-0.022233,0.002436,0.007793,-0.016501,-0.003441,0.004072,-0.004773,0.012517,-0.006334,-0.003268,0.003752,0.00262,-0.001113,-0.001232,-0.001325,-0.00012
North_Caucasus:RUS_Alan_MA_DA164,0.1161,0.102568,-0.014331,-0.004199,-0.024004,0.003626,-0.00235,-0.005307,-0.040087,-0.021139,0.007957,0.016186,-0.012933,-0.006055,0.002036,0.004243,0.018254,-0.000887,-0.010307,0.006628,0.001622,0.010758,0.006039,-0.000361,0.002036
North_Caucasus:RUS_Alan_MA_DA243,0.111547,0.101553 ,-0.01697,0.002584,-0.02462,0.004183,0.005875,-0.006231,-0.043564,-0.0277,0,-0.00015,-0.015461,-0.008533,0.004207,-0.011138,0.005737,-0.005954,-0.004274,0.011631,0.003119,0.00371,-0.000739,0.005061,-0.007305
Baltic:Baltic_EST_MA_IIa_1,0.127482,0.11577,0.0999 37,0.089471,0.052625,0.039045,0.00564,0.01223,0.00 5318,-0.033167,-0.008282,-0.013188,0.016947,0.015138,0.004343,0.016309,0.016 689,-0.006081,0.001006,0.000375,0.00574,-0.000989,0.003081,0.00723,-0.006826
Baltic:Baltic_EST_MA_IIf_1,0.126344,0.118817,0.082 967,0.09044,0.045547,0.030957,0.020681,0.005769,-0.001432,-0.028793,-0.006171,-0.012139,0.013528,0.029726,-0.001493,0.001458,-0.005215,-0.000253,0.006662,-0.012506,0.000499,-0.001978,0.003328,-0.005904,0.005508
Red_Sea:I1072,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Atlantic_HG,0.15783529,0.145428162,0.227399923,0.1 79637334,0.192737659,0.066128236,-0.006463956,0.062169167,0.151839868,0.11927273,-0.034165923,0.016107093,-0.03443422,0.000764432,0.130067707,-0.008322424,-0.104599534,-0.002026741,-0.05647959,0.01533621,0.094171013,-0.009430468,-0.034509132,-0.120477847,0.023748821
Saka_Kazakh_steppe,0.0827115,-0.119494,0.0580767,0.0433897,-0.0361603,0.0029283,-0.0001567,0.0024232,-0.0102945,-0.022324,-0.0142358,-0.0027225,0.004237,-0.024061,0.0140018,0.0099222,0.0010865,-0.0024703,-0.0015503,0.007962,-0.02167,0.0051317,-0.0050325,0.0035747,0.001277
CZE_Unetice_EBA,0.128051,0.1279565,0.0567565,0.061 8545,0.0324675,0.0158965,0.0022325,0.0040385,0.001 8405,-0.007836,-0.0052775,0.0005995,-0.005352,-0.001032,0.0162185,0.0120655,-0.007497,0.0050675,6.3e-05,0.0088795,0.0081105,0.0050695,0.000986,0.002832 ,-0.0031735
Baltic_LTU_BA,0.129189,0.1284645,0.091075,0.093993 ,0.040469,0.036395,0.0072855,0.011076,-0.0031705,-0.0483835,-0.0021925,-0.017834,0.0152375,0.026905,-0.009636,-0.00358,-0.008801,0.0025975,-0.004902,0.0006875,-0.0034315,0.0012365,0.000493,-0.0144595,0.0091605
Baltic_LVA_BA,0.1305171,0.1268283,0.1001044,0.1110 769,0.048385,0.0399124,0.0145449,0.0188197,-0.000568,-0.0488596,-0.0003249,-0.0189164,0.0329201,0.0433512,-0.0168293,0.0013113,0.0021294,-0.0014498,-0.0003212,0.0077817,-0.0024957,-0.0051934,0.0092299,-0.0223726,0.0025412
Baltic_EST_BA,0.1282788,0.1211528,0.10005,0.110273 1,0.0511479,0.0399928,0.0154169,0.0205375,-0.00407,-0.0510261,0.0003736,-0.0195725,0.0351582,0.0416311,-0.018553,0.0023469,0.0120475,0.0004815,-0.0012066,0.0056903,-0.0027702,-0.0078889,0.0101186,-0.0177011,0.0031136
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Baltic_HG,0.149868802,0.136380306,0.209730848,0.19 0840117,0.156106048,0.072437149,0.038002007,0.0636 88237,0.046382364,-0.072430537,-0.000902502,-0.05876715,0.106677275,0.144928109,-0.071019374,-0.005004616,0.021966607,0.003931878,-0.009757506,0.005758381,0.003759276,-0.024595198,0.007626296,-0.077723948,0.014953698
Siberian:Nganassan1,0.05122,-0.408243,0.154997,0.000969,-0.159722,-0.085619,0.029141,0.04546,0.029451,0.01221,0.10474 1,0.01079,-0.002379,-0.017065,-0.024022,-0.025059,-0.01369,0.013936,0.026774,-0.001751,0.042051,-0.013849,0.033523,0.001084,0.013532
Ancient_East_African,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Ancient_Southeast_Asian,0,-0.395041,-0.084098,-0.034561,0.154183,0.068049,-0.007285,-0.010615,-0.005522,-0.018224,0.090938,0.017834,-0.015163,0.006331,0.006922,-0.001061,-0.001695,-0.006841,-0.003394,0.019259,-0.01697,0.012984,-0.009737,0.00723,0.048379
Roman_Imperial_proxy,0.0094,0.0146333,-0.0066,-0.0170667,0.0018667,-0.0057667,-0.0007667,-0.0016333,0.0004333,0.0084667,0.0043667,0.0039667,-0.0056,0.0004667,-0.0050333,-8e-04,0.0064333,-0.0008667,0.0035667,0.0005667,-0.0012333,0.0018333,0.0025333,0.0015,0.0013333
North_African,-0.00346,0.01294,-0.00062,-0.02128,0.01096,-0.01304,-0.01276,0.00358,0.03466,0.01676,0.00466,-0.004,0.01228,-0.01286,0.0171,-0.00984,0.00244,-0.01516,-0.03526,0.00832,-0.0108,-0.0305,0.01888,-0.00098,0.00386
Celtiberian_IA,0.011,0.0141,0.01725,0.00355,0.0188 5,0.0012,-0.00145,0.00195,0.01275,0.0192,-0.00135,0.0059,-0.0114,-0.0062,0.0079,5e-05,-0.00635,7e-04,-1e-04,-6e-04,0.0066,0.0019,-0.00575,-0.0098,-0.0051
FIN_Levanluhta_IA_o,0.0119,0.012,0.0221,0.0224,0.0 154,0.007,-0.004,0.0022,0.0056,7e-04,7e-04,0.0017,-0.0074,-0.0099,0.0255,0.0089,-0.0035,0.0013,0.0096,0.0155,3e-04,-0.001,-0.0038,-0.0017,0.0045
RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA,0.1253088,0.1154011,0.0560538,0. 0815135,0.0066585,0.0328839,0.0043155,0.0043634,-0.0192996,-0.0311127,-0.0006937,0.0016894,-0.0027975,-0.0171778,0.0241334,0.0078348,-0.012754,0.0006564,0.0005026,0.0001024,-0.0025976,0.0047325,-0.0003584,0.0068355,-0.0005334
RUS_Srubnaya_MLBA_o,0.127482,0.031481,0.048649,0.1 41798,-0.062473,0.056894,-0.017626,-0.029537,-0.047859,-0.088567,0.006171,-0.006594,0.015461,-0.049407,0.016286,0.005569,-0.013038,-0.009375,-0.004525,0.009004,-0.015847,0.018424,0.01479,0.019521,-0.001078
Levant_Roman,0.007675,0.014375,-0.015275,-0.02705,-0.0036,-0.009975,-0.003325,-0.003225,0.0038,0.007275,0.001675,-0.006475,0.00865,-0.001925,-0.007075,0.007725,0.0013,-0.000925,0.002075,0.00265,-2e-04,0.003625,-0.0029,-7e-04,-0.004
Yoruba,-0.0553545,0.0061545,0.0058636,0.0051727,0.0001636, 0.0044727,-0.0189,0.0207,-0.0239,0.0179818,0.0028455,0.0005273,0.0155091,0.0 006909,0.0092273,-0.0072455,0.0054273,0.0003545,0.0047909,-0.0023909,0.0012455,0.0018727,-0.0014273,-0.0003909,-0.0003545
ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312 ,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
CHG=GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
EA=RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
WHG=BEL_Loschbour,0.133173,0.106631,0.20176,0.1921 86,0.164338,0.055778,0.00611,0.036922,0.096535,0.0 2278,-0.020786,-0.016186,0.024975,-0.007432,0.065824,0.063643,0.008084,0.006714,-0.013324,0.065281,0.120038,0.019166,-0.059405,-0.175687,0.022992
Amerind=RUS_Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Natufian=Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
S_Asian_HG=Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
SSA=Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
OHG=Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N,0.108701,0.1731478,-0.0143308,-0.100534,0.0270818,-0.0402298,-0.0045828,-0.005019,0.02623,0.05745,0.008444,0.0080555,-0.0101832,0.0052298,-0.0352192,-0.0104748,0.0088662,0.0004432,0.005342,-0.0032828,0.0026827,0.0044515,-0.0071795,-0.0038258,-0.0045805
BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Dinka,-0.577083,0.0507765,-0.0003773,-0.0075098,-0.0053855,-0.0016735,-0.0176848,0.0204222,0.081145,-0.0969495,-0.02107,0.022742,-0.0383172,-0.0011698,0.0101452,-0.021347,0.0186125,-0.0094382,0.0241968,-0.0241678,0.002402,0.003308,0.001479,0.0009038,0.0 096995
ETH_4500BP,-0.511066,0.043668,0.000754,0.000969,-0.00277,-0.011435,0.050997,-0.045229,0.089172,-0.087838,-0.012991,-0.002997,-0.031219,0.000688,0.02158,-0.029965,0.027772,0.039273,0.00176,-0.009004,0.000374,0.006183,-0.003451,-0.00241,-0.000838
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Han,0.0206952,-0.4507105,-0.0082967,-0.0651579,0.0780846,0.0374475,0.0029055,-0.004804,-0.0150232,-0.0031146,-0.0495875,-0.0070573,0.0072707,-0.0081072,-0.0043305,0.0012535,0.0017542,-0.0008638,-0.0020455,-0.0102206,0.0122397,0.0069582,0.0141063,-0.0012925,-0.0022315
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2:I8728,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura-Araxes_ARM_Kaps,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Levant_PPNB,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
MAR_Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0 .1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246

mitalit
03-16-2020, 04:33 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.8830% / 0.01882970
46.2 Northwest_European
21.6 Southwest_European
7.6 BRITANNICI
6.6 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
4.6 GALLI
4.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
3.2 CHG=GEO_CHG
2.4 Saka_Kazakh_steppe
1.8 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.8 MAR_Iberomaurusian


Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.2510% / 0.02251001 | ADC: 0.25x
51.0 Southwest_Europeanortuguese
12.6 South_European
12.4 Northwest_European
11.8 HISPANI
6.0 Southwest_European
3.6 GALLI
1.6 Saka_Kazakh_steppe
1.0 Celtic

mitalit
03-16-2020, 04:34 PM
mucho del norte de Europa veo

Gallop
03-16-2020, 04:37 PM
Ah hero tentihinco zaco ehto

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 1.6176% / 0.01617571 | ADC: 0.25x
67.2 Southwest_European
22.8 HISPANI
3.2 Celtic
3.0 VASCONES
1.8 CHG=GEO_CHG
1.4 WHG
0.6 WHG=BEL_Loschbour

Gallop
03-16-2020, 04:39 PM
mucho del norte de Europa veo

Me he dejado llevar, soy muy psico intuitivo debe ser por algún tipo de presión o test del aceite y el agua para que salga lo bueno. lol

Hin er hero tentihinco m´he zale munxo cahaó coheó de zetah i frezah com´ho ze pué conzervá ezo toavía entre munxízimah elehione ke he hazío, ke pazá hikiyo.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 04:40 PM
Es que esa calculadora tiene poblaciones modernas con antiguas juntas, una barbaridad.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 04:52 PM
Es que esa calculadora tiene poblaciones modernas con antiguas juntas, una barbaridad.

Ke hoío ereh tú hah.la

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 04:58 PM
Hay una jugosa oferta en AncestryDNA. Asomen la cabeza.

No hacen envíos a España.


Lo que no sé es hasta que punto en un momento como este van a permitir que muestras biológicas de saliva estén dando vueltas de un sitio a otro por el mundo.

¿No hay ninguna restricción sobre todo ésto?

Una muestra de saliva con coronavirus incluido, ¿a quién no le apetece?

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:06 PM
Ke hoío ereh tú hah.la

Ablame en crîttiano, hodêh.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:06 PM
No hacen envíos a España.

Ya hay envios aca, esta la opcion, te deja hasta poner la provincia y todo.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:13 PM
Entre el aburrimiento y la duda, les pregunto, con esto:

De 3/4 de esto:

Target: Spanish_Asturias
Distance: 5.0397% / 0.05039651
53.6 Anatolian_Farmer
28.2 Yamnaya
13.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 3.2045% / 0.03204476
53.2 Anatolian_Farmer
30.2 Yamnaya
11.8 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Iberomaurusian

Mas 1/4 de esto:

Target: Sicilian_East
Distance: 2.3117% / 0.02311702
41.2 Anatolian_Farmer
20.2 Yamnaya
16.6 Kura_Araxes
13.8 Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B
3.4 Hajji_Firuz_Tepe
2.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
1.0 Shahr_e_Sukhteh
0.6 Iberomaurusian
0.6 Yoruba

Target: Sicilian_West
Distance: 2.3776% / 0.02377593
41.6 Anatolian_Farmer
20.4 Yamnaya
19.6 Hajji_Firuz_Tepe
7.4 Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B
5.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
2.8 Iberomaurusian
2.2 Kura_Araxes
0.4 Shahr_e_Sukhteh
0.2 Yoruba

Como cojones sale esto:

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.2514% / 0.02251429
53.0 Anatolian_Farmer
32.2 Yamnaya
8.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
6.6 Iberomaurusian

Lo peor es que yo soy el de mejor distancia, vamos, que lo hace mas curioso. O mi lado siciliano era demasiado europeo para ser siciliano, o no se que pensar. Se que con el tiempo, los pequeños porcentajes se van perdiendo, pero es que esos tios alcanzan a veces hasta el 30% de no europeo, una locura.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 05:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SNfXP2K.png

https://i.imgur.com/qsLz9Cp.png

Gallop
03-16-2020, 05:33 PM
Zoi lúniko q´ha zacao 0.6 ]WHG=BEL_Loschbour[/B]me da ke penzá ke zea ece el helehío

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 05:37 PM
Ya hay envios aca, esta la opcion, te deja hasta poner la provincia y todo.

No.

https://i.postimg.cc/ht6T2scS/no.png

gixajo
03-16-2020, 05:39 PM
Zoi lúniko q´ha zacao 0.6 ]WHG=BEL_Loschbour[/B]me da ke penzá ke zea ece el helehío

Con todos los componentes que le has metido en Source te puede salir cualquier cosa con 0.6%, a mí por poco me sale 0.6% mosca_de_la_fruta

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:39 PM
No.

https://i.postimg.cc/ht6T2scS/no.png

A mi me deja el cabrón. Métete en el AncestryDNA de USA, verás que sí lo permite, el precio es en dólares.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 05:40 PM
Cahaó der kaukazo zolo yo l´ho zacao ke coza má kurioza

1.8 CHG=GEO_CHG

Gallop
03-16-2020, 05:42 PM
Con todos los componentes que le has metido en Source te puede salir cualquier cosa con 0.6%, a mí por poco me sale 0.6% mosca_de_la_fruta

eH ruío pero no ehtá má der tó pa zabé i contrahtá.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 05:42 PM
k25 for G25: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K25%20calculator%20for%20G25.htm

Este es el calculador que más se parece a la estimación que tuve de MH, los que habéis hecho el test de MH a ver si os da también muy similar:

https://i.imgur.com/fIGkyDj.png

mitalit
03-16-2020, 05:45 PM
Algo diferente

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.5113% / 0.02511303
55.0 Iberian+Basques
21.6 NW_European+Beakers
9.8 Neolithic_Farmers
6.2 Sintashta+Srubnaya+Kangju
2.8 Maltese+European_Jewish
2.6 Caucasian
1.2 Ethiopian+Somali+Iberomaurusian
0.8 NE_Asian

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:47 PM
k25 for G25: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K25%20calculator%20for%20G25.htm

Este es el calculador que más se parece a la estimación que tuve de MH, los que habéis hecho el test de MH a ver si os da también muy similar:

https://i.imgur.com/fIGkyDj.png

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.6564% / 0.02656403 | ADC: 0.25x
49.0 Iberian+Basques
41.8 Greek+Albanian
3.8 Arabic
3.0 Ethiopian+Somali+Iberomaurusian
2.4 Sintashta+Srubnaya+Kangju

Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.5333% / 0.02533285
36.0 Greek+Albanian
17.6 Neolithic_Northern_Europe
15.2 Iberian+Basques
15.2 Sintashta+Srubnaya+Kangju
8.8 Arabic
4.4 Central_European
2.8 Ethiopian+Somali+Iberomaurusian

Que va...

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 05:49 PM
A mi me deja el cabrón. Métete en el AncestryDNA de USA, verás que sí lo permite, el precio es en dólares.

Eso solo era un resumen, aquí está toda la lista completa:

https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Countries-Where-AncestryDNA-is-Available?ui-self-service-components-controller.ArticleTopicList.getTopics=1&r=17&ui-communities-components-aura-components-forceCommunity-seoAssistant.SeoAssistant.getSeoData=1&ui-communities-components-aura-components-forceCommunity-breadcrumbs.Breadcrumbs.getAncestors=1&ui-comm-runtime-components-aura-components-siteforce-qb.Quarterback.validateRoute=1&ui-force-components-controllers-recordGlobalValueProvider.RecordGvp.getRecord=2&ui-self-service-components-controller.ArticleView.getArticleHeaderDetail=1

No aparece Espanien Estadien Alarmien.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 05:51 PM
Eso solo era un resumen, aquí está toda la lista completa:

https://support.ancestry.com/s/article/Countries-Where-AncestryDNA-is-Available?ui-self-service-components-controller.ArticleTopicList.getTopics=1&r=17&ui-communities-components-aura-components-forceCommunity-seoAssistant.SeoAssistant.getSeoData=1&ui-communities-components-aura-components-forceCommunity-breadcrumbs.Breadcrumbs.getAncestors=1&ui-comm-runtime-components-aura-components-siteforce-qb.Quarterback.validateRoute=1&ui-force-components-controllers-recordGlobalValueProvider.RecordGvp.getRecord=2&ui-self-service-components-controller.ArticleView.getArticleHeaderDetail=1

No aparece Espanien Estadien Alarmien.

Pensé que comprabas el de USA y poniendo la dirección te lo traían, bueno, supongo que seguiré con mi G25.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 05:58 PM
Pensé que comprabas el de USA y poniendo la dirección te lo traían, bueno, supongo que seguiré con mi G25.

¿Y por qué nos tratan como a un país tercermundista? hijos de la gran FRUTA. ¿Tienen envíos hasta para el Vaticano (LOL) pero no para españoles? y eso que tenemos a muchos hermanos en las américas compartiendo centímetros de alelos.

Que mal me cae esta gentuza de Ancestry, por mí pueden pillar el coronavirus.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 05:59 PM
Hay alguna herramienta que haga mapas con las coordenadas g25 que sea gratuita?

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 06:01 PM
¿Y por qué nos tratan como a un país tercermundista? hijos de la gran FRUTA. ¿Tienen envíos hasta para el Vaticano (LOL) pero no para españoles? y eso que tenemos a muchos hermanos en las américas compartiendo centímetros de alelos.

Que mal me cae esta gentuza de Ancestry, por mí pueden pillar el coronavirus.

Si bueno, la verdad es que AncestryDNA me llama mucho la atención pero no entiendo la razón del porque no enviar kits a España.

Ojalá que haya descuentos en 23andme en un futuro.

Defcon2
03-16-2020, 06:05 PM
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6600% / 0.02659978
84.6 Iberian+Basques
8.2 Neolithic_Farmers
2.4 African
2.4 South_Asian
2.2 North_Indian+Kalash
0.2 NW_European+Beakers


Hay alguna herramienta que haga mapas con las coordenadas g25 que sea gratuita?

Si no estás registrado en Anthrogenica me puedes dar las coordenadas a mí o ha Alejandro que hay un tipo que sabe hacer mapas.

gixajo
03-16-2020, 06:07 PM
Por fin encontré exactamente la estimación de MH, en el Nicola World_25 unescaled, en el 0.5X

MH me daba 95,2% Ibérico y 4,8% Northwestern European:

https://i.imgur.com/wgxObJs.png

Usará algo similar para sus estimaciones MH o solo es casualidad?

gixajo
03-16-2020, 06:08 PM
Repetido

Gallop
03-16-2020, 06:12 PM
Ke pazá nano! ke viehuno zoi. Ehto arroha munxa lú zobre la coza ehta, me l`ehplike

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KJcBo7F9bbE/Xm-_uoCdteI/AAAAAAAADPU/BTkx9BFFXGcPDmIU5ZgHvx7zaZEN59wSQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/iberianMAbasques.jpeg

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.5724% / 0.02572431 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Iberian+Basques

Ze m´ha orviao er un ja por kurioziá

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/--_73xgd3ZeM/Xm-_w_ttf9I/AAAAAAAADPY/GNqfd2M1BeEHUCgq8vtOltWC6RXkEgfnACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/iberianMAbasquesdistance.jpeg

Bueno es distancia pero se parece a mis resultados de FTDNA, aunque tengo el bell beaker, que pasada.

Akí no ze untan moernó kon viehuhno, kevá.

Gallop
03-16-2020, 06:37 PM
Si bueno, la verdad es que AncestryDNA me llama mucho la atención pero no entiendo la razón del porque no enviar kits a España.

Ojalá que haya descuentos en 23andme en un futuro.

Quieren evadir a toda costa cualquier posibilidad que su población anglosajona vikinga con latinos inmigrantes, por favor cómo va a poder ser eso.

Entonces atajan a la raíz de la posibilidad que sucediera que no es otra que España, pero ha de saber que sin España los resultados que da a su público están incompletos porque no se puede amputar ningún país de Europa a Europa.

En Portugal creo que lo venden, pero ya es Portu gal ya no suena tanto Hispanic. No sé quizá deben tener un cacao mental.

Gota_type_
03-16-2020, 06:47 PM
Es que hay mas privacidad enviandoselo a un particular que subiendolo en una pagina, vamos, en mi opinion personal. Igualmente ya te digo, al parecer esto del G25, que es bastante reciente, va para rato por la manera en que se puede actualizar y el uso que le das.

Pero bueno, ya sabes, si estas interesado, tu ve el post y las instrucciones.



La mayoría de calculadoras como Gedmatch son del año 2013 e inferior y no se van actualizar, las nuevas calculadoras a saber cuando van a salir si es que salen. Si te preocupa el tema de la privacidad no hay mucho que hacer, pero es mil veces más privado enviandolo a un particular que a una empresa, debido a que las empresas están más obligadas a generar ganancias (terceras compañías se involucran), Gedmatch fue comprada por otra empresa.

Sí, es cierto q las calculadoras de gedmatch están bastante desfasadas pero seguro q progresivamente irán saliendo nuevas calculadoras actualizadas y que no impliquen mandar tu DNA Raw (más la identidad de tu paypal, que este es el problema añadido) a un tipo concreto. A saber qué medidas de privacidad, seguridad, o a saber qué tipo es el que hace esto (no sabemos si está metido en "jaleos" y terminan confiscándole sus discos duros). Sí, ya sé que es excesivo lo q estoy diciendo pero peores cosas han pasado.

Ibericus
03-16-2020, 07:04 PM
Hay alguna herramienta que haga mapas con las coordenadas g25 que sea gratuita?
si con el PCA de vahaduo:

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

En source pones las poblaciones que quieres que aparezcan en tu PCA, y luego vas a la pestaña PCA Plot y le das a Run PCA y luego a Plot PCA

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 07:13 PM
si con el PCA de vahaduo:

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

En source pones las poblaciones que quieres que aparezcan en tu PCA, y luego vas a la pestaña PCA Plot y le das a Run PCA y luego a Plot PCA

Ibericus, bienvenido al thread, ya hacia falta otro mas.

Tienes alguna droga, digo, calculadoras de G25 que puedas provisionarnos? Tambien, si eres tan amable, podrias postear tus resultados en la calculadora de mi thread?

gixajo
03-16-2020, 07:32 PM
si con el PCA de vahaduo:

https://vahaduo.github.io/custompca/

En source pones las poblaciones que quieres que aparezcan en tu PCA, y luego vas a la pestaña PCA Plot y le das a Run PCA y luego a Plot PCA

Sí, ese ya lo he probado, pero me refería a algo similar a el mapa de tasa de similitud del k36 y cosas así.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 11:02 PM
0.03188107 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03268559 Portuguese
0.03472690 Spanish_Murcia
0.03539203 Spanish_Galicia
0.03599118 Spanish_Mallorca
0.03616269 Spanish_Baleares
0.03701213 Spanish_Canarias
0.03724900 Swiss_Italian
0.03772760 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03817538 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03841066 Spanish_Menorca
0.03846287 Spanish_Alacant
0.03974000 Italian_Veneto
0.03982274 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03984164 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04070862 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04076931 Spanish_Girona
0.04085235 French_Provence
0.04126406 Spanish_Penedes
0.04127287 Italian_Piedmont
0.04151926 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04210558 Italian_Trentino-Alto-Adige
0.04219025 French_Corsica
0.04241011 Italian_Bergamo
0.04246216 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.04259980 Spanish_Castello
0.04279056 Spanish_Valencia
0.04321468 Italian_Northeast
0.04345802 Italian_Tuscany
0.04348151 Spanish_Pirineu
0.04348864 Italian_Liguria
0.04375304 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.04421010 Spanish_Lleida
0.04509247 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04645374 Spanish_Aragon
0.04677477 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04724737 Swiss_French
0.04777683 Italian_Umbria
0.04797419 Italian_Lombardy
0.04824703 Spanish_Cantabria
0.04906480 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.05013187 French_Auvergne
0.05057399 Spanish_La_Rioja
0.05058994 Spanish_Soria
0.05089413 Greek_Central_Macedonia
0.05123567 Italian_Marche
0.05203131 Greek_Thessaly
0.05216565 Italian_Lazio
0.05248091 Albanian
0.05250526 Spanish_Navarra
0.05278315 Moldavian
0.05414953 Romanian
0.05501941 Sicilian_West
0.05505059 French_Occitanie
0.05532852 Bulgarian
0.05598169 Spanish_Asturias
0.05664506 Gagauz
0.05714671 French_South
0.05720640 Macedonian
0.05805762 Italian_Abruzzo
0.05871720 Italian_Molise
0.05987128 Swiss_German
0.05991667 Montenegrin
0.06051447 Greek_Peloponnese
0.06100323 French_Alsace
0.06172831 French_Paris
0.06207813 Serbian
0.06282698 Maltese
0.06301342 French_Nord
0.06338103 Greek_Izmir
0.06385767 Italian_Basilicata
0.06427609 Italian_Apulia
0.06498698 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.06537861 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.06566747 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.06599971 Belgian
0.06673572 Sicilian_East
0.06744256 Italian_Campania
0.06764822 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06815661 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.06849854 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.07036275 Italian_Calabria
0.07091859 Basque_French
0.07138890 Austrian
0.07186457 Turkish_Balkans
0.07220877 Basque_Spanish
0.07268806 Roma_Barcelona
0.07269895 Bosnian
0.07319609 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.07534354 Greek_Thrace
0.07615826 Croatian
0.07840272 German
0.07888446 French_Brittany
0.07931308 Hungarian
0.08012325 Slovenian
0.08105739 Greek_Crete
0.08215384 Italian_Jew
0.08535515 Welsh
0.08672537 English_Cornwall
0.08685775 Greek_Kos

Distance: 1.6658% / 0.01665762
31.2 Spanish_Soria
16.0 Swiss_French
11.8 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
9.8 Sardinian
8.0 Cossack_Kuban
7.6 Lithuanian_VA
6.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
4.2 Georgian_Laz
2.6 Spanish_La_Rioja
2.2 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
0.4 Ju_hoan_North

Distance: 1.9954% / 0.01995412 | ADC: 0.25x
39.8 Spanish_Canarias
19.8 Spanish_Soria
15.2 Greek_Central_Macedonia
15.0 Swiss_Italian
4.0 Greek_Peloponnese
3.8 Cossack_Kuban
1.4 Moroccan_North
0.6 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.4 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour

Distance: 2.2180% / 0.02218032 | ADC: 0.5x
47.6 Spanish_Canarias
37.8 Swiss_Italian
9.2 Spanish_Soria
5.4 Macedonian

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:22 PM
0.03188107 Spanish_Extremadura


Si nos dices de que calculadora son los resultados podemos comparar.

Rocinante
03-16-2020, 11:26 PM
Si nos dices de que calculadora son los resultados podemos comparar.

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25.html

descargate el Global25 pop averages modern scaled y copias y pegas en el vahaduo

Pedro Ruben
03-16-2020, 11:40 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.3112% / 0.01311240
22.8 Italian_Liguria
22.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.2 Basque_French
9.8 Orcadian
8.6 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
7.6 Spanish_Asturias
7.0 Mozabite
4.2 Shetlandic
2.4 Ethiopian_Afar
1.4 Yemenite_Ma'rib
1.2 Fulani
0.6 Mari
0.6 Surui
0.4 Gambian
0.4 German_East
0.4 Greek_Thrace


Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.5134% / 0.01513445 | ADC: 0.25x
37.4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
29.2 Spanish_Canarias
13.8 Italian_Liguria
10.4 Spanish_Asturias
3.2 Finnish
3.0 Orcadian
1.8 Ethiopian_Afar
1.0 Yoruba
0.2 Wichi

Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.02862657 Spanish_Canarias
0.02912641 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.03123799 Portuguese
0.03125604 Spanish_Galicia
0.03277686 Spanish_Andalucia
0.03331998 Spanish_Extremadura
0.03534517 Spanish_Murcia
0.03827585 Spanish_Eivissa
0.03852568 Spanish_Asturias
0.03854111 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.03860717 Spanish_Alacant
0.04009266 Spanish_Menorca
0.04093771 Spanish_Valencia
0.04096807 Spanish_Baleares
0.04156539 Spanish_Cataluna
0.04180951 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.04217697 Spanish_Mallorca
0.04383451 Italian_Liguria
0.04398211 Spanish_Barcelones
0.04416265 Spanish_Aragon
0.04419919 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.04467602 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.04525240 Spanish_Penedes
0.04548542 Spanish_Lleida
0.04550371 Spanish_Girona

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:46 PM
https://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25.html

descargate el Global25 pop averages modern scaled y copias y pegas en el vahaduo

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.4641% / 0.01464050 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Spanish_Aragon
16.6 Spanish_Cantabria
8.4 French_South
6.8 Portuguese
6.4 Spanish_Menorca
5.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
3.6 Basque_Spanish
2.6 Lithuanian_VA
1.0 Spanish_Extremadura

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5435% / 0.01543500 | ADC: 0.5x
53.0 Spanish_Aragon
19.8 Spanish_Pirineu
12.2 Spanish_Cantabria
6.2 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
4.6 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
3.0 French_South
1.2 French_Occitanie

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.3707% / 0.01370673
40.0 Spanish_Aragon
26.6 Basque_Spanish
13.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
4.4 Lithuanian_PZ
4.4 Sardinian
2.6 Portuguese
2.4 Yemenite_Mahra
2.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
2.2 Spanish_Soria
1.2 Basque_French
0.2 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Koinanbe
0.2 Mbuti

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.01658208 Spanish_Aragon
0.01727214 Spanish_Pirineu
0.01859632 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.01886758 Spanish_Cantabria
0.01912200 Spanish_Valencia
0.01950849 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.01976409 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02002144 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02011638 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02034893 Spanish_Castello
0.02040101 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02066881 Spanish_Lleida
0.02103738 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02141164 Spanish_Penedes
0.02180879 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02222523 Spanish_Girona
0.02226842 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02231857 Spanish_Navarra
0.02242790 Spanish_Alacant
0.02243580 French_South
0.02303983 Spanish_Galicia
0.02332999 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02374266 Spanish_Menorca
0.02394533 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02521989 Spanish_Baleares

Lo edito con poniendolo en negrita como Pedro Ruben :thumb001:

PT Tagus
03-16-2020, 11:48 PM
Este tiene CHG etc... K11 10 kybp WHG-EHG calculator: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K11%2010%20kybp%20WHG-EHG%20calculator.htm


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 4.7323% / 0.04732272
57.4 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
18.2 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
9.2 CHG=GEO_CHG
7.8 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
3.0 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian
2.8 SSA=Yoruba
1.6 Natufian=Levant_Natufian


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 4.9037% / 0.04903699 | ADC: 0.25x
61.0 ENF=Anatolia_Barcin_N
19.8 EHG=RUS_Karelia_HG
7.8 CHG=GEO_CHG
5.6 WHG=BEL_Loschbour
2.6 Iberomaurusian=MAR_Iberomaurusian
1.8 SSA=Yoruba
1.4 Natufian=Levant_Natufian

gixajo
03-16-2020, 11:51 PM
La verdad es que es entretenido esto del g25, os voy a dar la razón.

Pedro Ruben
03-16-2020, 11:54 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.4641% / 0.01464050 | ADC: 0.25x
49.2 Spanish_Aragon
16.6 Spanish_Cantabria
8.4 French_South
6.8 Portuguese
6.4 Spanish_Menorca
5.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
3.6 Basque_Spanish
2.6 Lithuanian_VA
1.0 Spanish_Extremadura

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.5435% / 0.01543500 | ADC: 0.5x
53.0 Spanish_Aragon
19.8 Spanish_Pirineu
12.2 Spanish_Cantabria
6.2 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
4.6 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
3.0 French_South
1.2 French_Occitanie

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.3707% / 0.01370673
40.0 Spanish_Aragon
26.6 Basque_Spanish
13.4 Italian_Aosta_Valley
4.4 Lithuanian_PZ
4.4 Sardinian
2.6 Portuguese
2.4 Yemenite_Mahra
2.2 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
2.2 Spanish_Soria
1.2 Basque_French
0.2 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Koinanbe
0.2 Mbuti

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.01658208 Spanish_Aragon
0.01727214 Spanish_Pirineu
0.01859632 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
0.01886758 Spanish_Cantabria
0.01912200 Spanish_Valencia
0.01950849 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.01976409 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.02002144 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
0.02011638 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.02034893 Spanish_Castello
0.02040101 Spanish_Barcelones
0.02066881 Spanish_Lleida
0.02103738 Spanish_Cataluna
0.02141164 Spanish_Penedes
0.02180879 Spanish_Eivissa
0.02222523 Spanish_Girona
0.02226842 Spanish_Mallorca
0.02231857 Spanish_Navarra
0.02242790 Spanish_Alacant
0.02243580 French_South
0.02303983 Spanish_Galicia
0.02332999 Spanish_Andalucia
0.02374266 Spanish_Menorca
0.02394533 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
0.02521989 Spanish_Baleares

Lo edito con poniendolo en negrita como Pedro Ruben :thumb001:

Buena idea, queda la cosa distinta :p

gixajo
03-17-2020, 12:00 AM
Buena idea, queda la cosa distinta :p

Bueno, te lo he copiado a tí.:thumb001:

Viene bien ponerlo así, porque en tu caso y el mío, ponemos los resultados en distinto orden, así se ve mejor a la hora de comparar cada resultado.

Igual deberíamos convenir en postear los resultados en un orden fijo, para facilitar aún mejor las comparaciones.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 12:06 AM
La verdad es que al menos los portugueses y españoles que estamos por aquí, tenemos resultados casi intercambiables.

Qué otros países europeos tienen tanta similitud en sus resultados? alemanes y austríacos? los de la ex yugoeslavia? noruegos y suecos? ucranianos y rusos?

PT Tagus
03-17-2020, 12:06 AM
SUPREME regional calculator


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.5210% / 0.01520992
84.0 Southern_Europe
7.4 Middle_East
5.6 Northern_Europe
2.6 Africa_West
0.4 Africa_Central


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.7238% / 0.01723757 | ADC: 0.25x
93.4 Southern_Europe
4.2 Middle_East
2.2 Africa_West
0.2 Northern_Europe

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 12:22 AM
La verdad es que al menos los portugueses y españoles que estamos por aquí, tenemos resultados casi intercambiables.

Qué otros países europeos tienen tanta similitud en sus resultados? alemanes y austríacos? los de la ex yugoeslavia? noruegos y suecos? ucranianos y rusos?

És verdad que postear los resultados en un orden fijo facilitaria las cosas... jaja. La peninsula Iberica, con sus variaciones regionales, creo que es bastante homogenea... si saltamos a Francia por ejemplo la cosa cambia.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 12:40 AM
És verdad que postear los resultados en un orden fijo facilitaria las cosas... jaja. La peninsula Iberica, con sus variaciones regionales, creo que es bastante homogenea... si saltamos a Francia por ejemplo la cosa cambia.

En el sur de Francia hay más influencia Ibérica que francesa en el norte de España, `aún así, es como dices, la cosa empieza a cambiar bastante.

PT Tagus
03-17-2020, 12:40 AM
k25 for G25: http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/K25%20calculator%20for%20G25.htm

Este es el calculador que más se parece a la estimación que tuve de MH, los que habéis hecho el test de MH a ver si os da también muy similar:

https://i.imgur.com/fIGkyDj.png


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.8080% / 0.01808050
69.2 Iberian+Basques
10.6 NW_European+Beakers
10.0 Arabic
7.4 Maltese+European_Jewish
2.8 African


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9215% / 0.01921531 | ADC: 0.25x
75.8 Iberian+Basques
8.8 Arabic
6.8 Central_European
5.8 Maltese+European_Jewish
2.4 African
0.4 NW_European+Beakers

PT Tagus
03-17-2020, 12:43 AM
Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 2.6600% / 0.02659978
84.6 Iberian+Basques
8.2 Neolithic_Farmers
2.4 African
2.4 South_Asian
2.2 North_Indian+Kalash
0.2 NW_European+Beakers



Si no estás registrado en Anthrogenica me puedes dar las coordenadas a mí o ha Alejandro que hay un tipo que sabe hacer mapas.

Ph2ter también está registrado aquí.

Gallop
03-17-2020, 03:42 AM
Con todas las muestras

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VAeFOtSsj7Y/XnBEkmuT7RI/AAAAAAAADPo/YoaNv3WqqWItJlOp_OwSwsZW9ROcf00ggCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wqN7SyGo5Wk/XnBErwqz-dI/AAAAAAAADPw/wwMIq_TOTjYm5DTKIMiIuF1eFDoQxPuJQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO25.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aVO4SlELcnM/XnBEvD3pOiI/AAAAAAAADP0/5wX0eoUjPYQpGeC71b8JQ-5jU3MLV9OyACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO50.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-840p3IwJ0mk/XnBEn26p3NI/AAAAAAAADPs/YxxBDuAFcFI8jHvAf-uYanp0Va3yhBZvgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO1.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3RftvBmvQoQ/XnBEzEUroxI/AAAAAAAADP4/f66sw1v6_8sAmNq7afPzvNLnmMeGpxVDwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNTRIFASICO.jpg

gixajo
03-17-2020, 09:05 AM
Con todas las muestras



Si explicas como lo has hecho.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 09:19 AM
Al Norte del Sur...me has puesto dislike a mi post nº891!!!

Me vengaré...:machine gun:

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 09:52 AM
A ver si alguien trae calculadoras nuevas, ya estan haciendo falta.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 10:10 AM
A ver si alguien trae calculadoras nuevas, ya estan haciendo falta.

Estas las conoces? : http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 10:17 AM
Al Norte del Sur...me has puesto dislike a mi post nº891!!!

Me vengaré...:machine gun:

:rofl:

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 10:19 AM
Estas las conoces? : http://185.144.156.77:3000/custom_calculators.html

Estoy probandolas, por ejemplo,

ph2ter ancient basics:

"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 2.2133,
"EEF": 47.5,
"STEPPE": 30.83,
"WHG": 8.33,
"AFRICA-NORTHWEST": 5.83,
"LEVANT": 4.17,
"CHG": 2.5,
"CENTRAL-ASIA": 0.83,

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 10:23 AM
capitalis modern k18

"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 1.7408,
"Portuguese_Spanish_K18": 65,
"Bosnian_Montenegrin_Serbian_Romanian_Bulgarian_K18": 10,
"French_Belgian_K18": 9.17,
"Ashkenazi_Jewish_K18": 5.83,
"Albanian_Greek_K18": 3.33,
"Italian_North_Central_K18": 3.33,
"Italian_South_and_Sicilian_K18": 3.33,

"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 1.636,
"Portuguese_Spanish_K18": 56.67,
"Ashkenazi_Jewish_K18": 15.83,
"French_Belgian_K18": 11.67,
"Polish_Belarusian_Ukrainian_K18": 5.83,
"Italian_South_and_Sicilian_K18": 4.17,
"Albanian_Greek_K18": 1.67,
"Bosnian_Montenegrin_Serbian_Romanian_Bulgarian_K18": 1.67,
"Sardinian_K18": 1.67,
"German_Czech_Austrian_K18": 0.83,

Lo alejado geneticamente que estoy con mis amigos vascos, es increible.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 10:24 AM
Estoy probandolas, por ejemplo,

ph2ter ancient basics:

[
{
"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 2.7207,
"EEF": 44.17,
"STEPPE": 23.33,
"LEVANT": 10.83,
"WHG": 9.17,
"CHG": 5,
"AFRICA-NORTHWEST": 2.5,

He probado alguna pero no me queda del todo claro como funcionan.

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 10:26 AM
esta la entiendo menos, o mejor dicho, no entiendo nada, ph2ter anciente 2000BCE-2500BCE

"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 2.6735,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL": 27.5,
"BEAKERS-SOUTHWEST": 18.33,
"BEAKERS-SOUTHEAST": 8.33,
"ANATOLIA_EBA": 7.5,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL-SOUTH": 7.5,
"LEVANT-NORTH": 6.67,
"BEAKERS-NORTHWEST": 5,
"LEVANT-SOUTH": 5,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL-WEST": 3.33,
"MINOAN": 3.33,
"BRITAIN-CA-EBA": 2.5,
"NO-STEPPE-CENTRAL-EUROPEANS": 1.67,
"NO-STEPPE-IBERIAN-BEAKERS": 1.67,
"CENTRAL-ASIA": 0.83,
"CORDED-WARE.CZECH": 0.83,

"sample": "Custom:Alejandro_scaled",
"fit": 1.1747,
"BEAKERS-NORTHWEST": 20,
"MINOAN": 15,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL": 13.33,
"NO-STEPPE-CENTRAL-EUROPEANS": 12.5,
"STEPPE-WEST": 11.67,
"ANATOLIA_EBA": 9.17,
"IBEROMAURUSIAN": 6.67,
"BEAKERS-SOUTHEAST": 5.83,
"CORDED-WARE-GERMANY": 3.33,
"ARMENIA-EBA": 0.83,
"LEVANT-NORTH": 0.83,
"NO-STEPPE-IBERIAN-BEAKERS": 0.83,

Me suena Beaker un poquito pero ya esta.

Defcon2
03-17-2020, 10:36 AM
A ver si alguien trae calculadoras nuevas, ya estan haciendo falta.

Estoy creando una calculadora, cuando la tenga hecha publico.

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 11:24 AM
"Custom: Pedro_scaled",
"fit": 3.3447,
"EEF": 49.17,
"STEPPE": 33.33,
"WHG": 8.33,
"AFRICA-NORTHWEST": 7.5,
"AFRICA-SOUTHEAST": 1.67

"Custom: Pedro_scaled",
"fit": 1.3433,
"BEAKERS-NORTHWEST": 36.67,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL-SOUTH": 20.83,
"NO-STEPPE-CENTRAL-EUROPEANS": 13.33,
"MINOAN": 10,
"IBEROMAURUSIAN": 9.17,
"BEAKERS-CENTRAL-WEST": 8.33,
"ANATOLIA_EBA": 0.83,
"LEVANT-NORTH": 0.83,

Gallop
03-17-2020, 11:46 AM
Si explicas como lo has hecho.

https://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/...-global25.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrhcfNMLW0oMXIbHGUE60v2taCM7PFw1/view

Si le das a descargar irá a una carpeta, abres el archivo con blok de notas y ya puedes copiar y pegar en Vahaduo. Lo hice con todas las muestras y me ha funcionado.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 12:23 PM
https://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/...-global25.html

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrhcfNMLW0oMXIbHGUE60v2taCM7PFw1/view

Si le das a descargar irá a una carpeta, abres el archivo con blok de notas y ya puedes copiar y pegar en Vahaduo. Lo hice con todas las muestras y me ha funcionado.

Los resultados del que te dije no están hechos con esa misma source, en el global25_pca_scaled que se descraga con tu enlace, no hay ningún Spanish_XXX ni Basque_XXX, tiene que ser otro con el que lo hiciste.

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 12:26 PM
Anatolian_Farmer,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Lapa_Do_Santo,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Shahr_e_Sukhteh,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura_Araxes,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
Western_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1246365,0.116278,0.18478 9,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675 ,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0.1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Hajji_Firuz_Tepe,0.0896355,0.1327805 ,-0.0780642,-0.0667802,-0.0437002,-0.0196618,0.0098702,-0.0065768,-0.035178,-0.0030977,0.0051965,-0.0013113,-0.0006317,-0.0019613,-0.0046145,0.0036128,0.00088,0.0022802,0.0032995,-0.0063468,0.0045232,-0.0033388,-0.00835,-0.0118992,0.0006588
Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
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Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Natufian,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.1298 55,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Scandinavian_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1336282,0.0930224,0 .1688746,0.1924444,0.0858622,0.0573958,0.0004702,0 .0113534,0.0371414,-0.0417686,0.0005844,-0.0192728,0.0332406,-0.015634,0.031107,0.0482892,0.0039376,0.002914,-0.0052792,0.0391688,0.0505858,0.0146652,-0.0218642,-0.0969536,0.0053168

He agregado las muestras de cazadores escandinavos, caucasicos y karelios, puede que sean redundantes con el yamnaya, pero no estoy seguro.

mitalit
03-17-2020, 12:28 PM
https://bga101.blogspot.com/2019/07/getting-most-out-of-global25.html

descargate el Global25 pop averages modern scaled y copias y pegas en el vahaduo

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.8033% / 0.01803277
36.6 Spanish_Soria
18.6 Swiss_French
16.2 Shetlandic
12.6 Italian_Liguria
4.4 Berber_Tunisia_Chen
3.6 Sardinian
3.2 Spanish_Asturias
2.2 Abkhasian
0.8 Berber_MAR_TIZ
0.8 Spanish_Aragon
0.8 Todzin
0.2 Papuan

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 1.8794% / 0.01879364 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Swiss_French
28.2 Spanish_Soria
11.0 Italian_Liguria
8.0 Spanish_Asturias
2.6 Berber_MAR_TIZ
1.6 Portuguese
0.6 Todzin
0.4 Tubalar

mitalit
03-17-2020, 12:36 PM
Anatolian_Farmer,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Lapa_Do_Santo,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Shahr_e_Sukhteh,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura_Araxes,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
Western_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1246365,0.116278,0.18478 9,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675 ,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0.1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Hajji_Firuz_Tepe,0.0896355,0.1327805 ,-0.0780642,-0.0667802,-0.0437002,-0.0196618,0.0098702,-0.0065768,-0.035178,-0.0030977,0.0051965,-0.0013113,-0.0006317,-0.0019613,-0.0046145,0.0036128,0.00088,0.0022802,0.0032995,-0.0063468,0.0045232,-0.0033388,-0.00835,-0.0118992,0.0006588
Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Natufian,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.1298 55,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Scandinavian_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1336282,0.0930224,0 .1688746,0.1924444,0.0858622,0.0573958,0.0004702,0 .0113534,0.0371414,-0.0417686,0.0005844,-0.0192728,0.0332406,-0.015634,0.031107,0.0482892,0.0039376,0.002914,-0.0052792,0.0391688,0.0505858,0.0146652,-0.0218642,-0.0969536,0.0053168

He agregado las muestras de cazadores escandinavos, caucasicos y karelios, puede que sean redundantes con el yamnaya, pero no estoy seguro.

En mi caso esta igual

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.7151% / 0.03715138
51.6 Anatolian_Farmer
35.2 Yamnaya
9.8 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.4 Iberomaurusian

gixajo
03-17-2020, 12:43 PM
Anatolian_Farmer,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Lapa_Do_Santo,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Shahr_e_Sukhteh,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura_Araxes,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
Western_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1246365,0.116278,0.18478 9,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675 ,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0.1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Hajji_Firuz_Tepe,0.0896355,0.1327805 ,-0.0780642,-0.0667802,-0.0437002,-0.0196618,0.0098702,-0.0065768,-0.035178,-0.0030977,0.0051965,-0.0013113,-0.0006317,-0.0019613,-0.0046145,0.0036128,0.00088,0.0022802,0.0032995,-0.0063468,0.0045232,-0.0033388,-0.00835,-0.0118992,0.0006588
Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Natufian,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.1298 55,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Scandinavian_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1336282,0.0930224,0 .1688746,0.1924444,0.0858622,0.0573958,0.0004702,0 .0113534,0.0371414,-0.0417686,0.0005844,-0.0192728,0.0332406,-0.015634,0.031107,0.0482892,0.0039376,0.002914,-0.0052792,0.0391688,0.0505858,0.0146652,-0.0218642,-0.0969536,0.0053168

He agregado las muestras de cazadores escandinavos, caucasicos y karelios, puede que sean redundantes con el yamnaya, pero no estoy seguro.

https://i.imgur.com/SS2SsNX.png

https://i.imgur.com/bQ4yw9a.png

Gallop
03-17-2020, 12:53 PM
Haría falta una calculadora con las coordenadas de todas las muestras antiguas encontradas en Europa con haplogrupo E adnY en Europa y otras zonas que cubriera todas las posibles rutas desde época temprana en adelante. Creo que se han encontrado en el Cáucaso e incluso en La India, además de en Europa.

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 12:57 PM
No postee mis resultados porque me dan exactamente lo mismo, el unico al parecer que le cambio por muy poco fue a Juancho:

Distance: 4.7982% / 0.04798239
55.8 Anatolian_Farmer
25.8 Yamnaya
9.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.2 Iberomaurusian
1.6 Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer
1.6 Shahr_e_Sukhteh
1.2 Gambian
0.2 Jarawa

Creo que en esta calculadora, el tiene los resultados mas interesantes, vamos, ni yo sin ser 100% español saco algo asi.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 01:15 PM
No postee mis resultados porque me dan exactamente lo mismo, el unico al parecer que le cambio por muy poco fue a Juancho:

Creo que en esta calculadora, el tiene los resultados mas interesantes, vamos, ni yo sin ser 100% español saco algo asi.

Mis resultados también eran iguales a los del otro día , creo.

Gallop
03-17-2020, 01:28 PM
[QUOTE=gixajo;6563376]Los resultados del que te dije no están hechos con esa misma source, en el global25_pca_scaled que se descraga con tu enlace, no hay ningún Spanish_XXX ni Basque_XXX, tiene que ser otro con el que lo hiciste.[/QUOTE

Claro que están.

Con las mismas coordenadas otra vez:

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 0.8926% / 0.00892567
25.8 Basque_Spanish
20.0 Sardinian
18.2 Irish
6.6 Portuguese
6.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
5.6 French_South
5.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
5.0 North_Ossetian
1.8 Polish
1.4 Abkhasian
1.4 Dutch
1.4 Somali_Kenya
0.6 Ket
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator


Claro que está Basque_spanish

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4Zrl-nKI4Fg/XnDNvWHpULI/AAAAAAAADQI/iG8PFnmEk5YvxhIckqaJkFdKH1eoXjCDACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basquespanish.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zt3iQBnoIrg/XnDONPeBu9I/AAAAAAAADQQ/LFcS7At-Q9kVTrEFVeESGPfkaRev-oW4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basque_spanish2.jpeg

Basque_French:HGDP01357,0.121791,0.157407,0.05242, 0.006137,0.055395,0.000279,-0.000705,0.007846,0.030474,0.042825,-0.009743,0.013488,-0.023191,-0.007294,0.011943,0.000928,-0.018515,-0.00266,-0.002137,-0.001,0.007861,0.00779,-0.011462,-0.013496,0.003592
Basque_French:HGDP01358,0.127482,0.151314,0.055814 ,0.008721,0.05601,0.001394,-0.006815,0.004615,0.032724,0.042643,-0.007145,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.009909,0.012893,-0.007027,-0.012256,0.00266,0.000251,0.001376,0.009608,0.0043 28,-0.003328,-0.009519,-0.00012
Basque_French:HGDP01359,0.125205,0.153345,0.055437 ,0.01292,0.061242,0.001394,0.003995,0.006,0.029247 ,0.042643,-0.012829,0.012139,-0.022745,-0.007844,0.015472,-0.008221,-0.014473,0.003167,-0.00088,-0.001,0.012228,-0.00136,-0.007765,-0.006627,0.002395
Basque_French:HGDP01360,0.133173,0.149283,0.063733 ,0.020995,0.056318,0.005578,-0.000705,0.004615,0.034155,0.049386,-0.012829,0.01124,-0.02438,-0.020368,0.019951,0.011933,-0.005607,0.004181,0.003017,-0.007754,0.012728,-0.000124,-0.007395,-0.01205,-0.001078
Basque_French:HGDP01362,0.122929,0.152329,0.054682 ,0.018411,0.059396,0.004183,-0.000235,0.004615,0.033746,0.037541,-0.013153,0.010191,-0.020069,-0.020919,0.005022,-0.00769,-0.02021,0.003927,-0.000628,-0.012381,0.006738,0.005935,-0.007641,-0.008917,-0.000958
Basque_French:HGDP01363,0.127482,0.15436,0.057322, 0.010982,0.055395,0.002789,-0.00141,-0.000692,0.026179,0.035901,-0.007795,0.009591,-0.025124,-0.015276,0.012622,0.005436,0.00013,0.002027,0.0027 65,0,0.010981,-0.002349,-0.012078,-0.00723,-0.001916
Basque_French:HGDP01364,0.12862,0.152329,0.044877, 0.008398,0.053856,-0.003626,0.000235,-0.001385,0.027611,0.035536,-0.006171,0.006145,-0.017096,-0.008808,0.013301,0.001193,-0.014603,0.005828,-0.004525,-0.002751,0.009982,0.002349,-0.00912,-0.01217,0.002395
Basque_French:HGDP01365,0.12862,0.15436,0.048649,0 .011305,0.054779,0.00502,-0.001175,0.001615,0.03027,0.046106,-0.007957,0.01109,-0.022894,-0.012799,0.014386,-0.009679,-0.017341,0.006334,-0.002011,-0.006753,0.007112,0.001237,-0.012695,-0.004097,0.003473
Basque_French:HGDP01366,0.137726,0.147252,0.055814 ,0.017442,0.052317,0.002231,0.00094,0.009461,0.028 02,0.034989,-0.008769,0.008992,-0.01888,-0.015551,0.016694,0.00053,0.00326,0.002154,-0.006788,-0.006753,0.012228,0.006183,-0.008627,-0.003976,-0.00479
Basque_French:HGDP01367,0.127482,0.148267,0.062979 ,0.01292,0.059396,0.005857,-0.008225,-0.003461,0.033542,0.044466,-0.006333,0.012439,-0.019029,-0.021469,0.009908,-0.006762,-0.019558,0.00266,0.003771,-0.007128,0.012104,0.000866,-0.006286,-0.013616,-0.002275
Basque_Spanish:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0. 008075,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS25,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.0 0646,0.056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
Basque_Spanish:BAS27,0.126344,0.148267,0.059962,0. 006137,0.059088,-0.000837,-0.0047,0.003231,0.032315,0.049933,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.02557,-0.028626,0.015608,0.008618,0.001434,0.000633,0.003 142,0.002626,0.012478,0.005935,0.000246,-0.004217,0.000599
Basque_Spanish:BAS28,0.133173,0.151314,0.058831,0. 01615,0.056318,0.001952,0.000235,-0.003692,0.030679,0.039363,-0.001786,0.016036,-0.026313,-0.016102,0.021715,-0.002784,-0.012386,-0.005954,-0.001006,0.002751,0.005241,0.00779,-0.006409,-0.013255,0.006586
Basque_Spanish:BAS30,0.129758,0.141159,0.061471,0. 005814,0.06432,0.006136,-0.011516,0.003923,0.035178,0.042643,0.005196,0.013 488,-0.01888,-0.023946,0.021851,-0.002387,-0.01682,0.008361,-0.000628,-0.002376,0.004243,0,-0.006286,-0.015183,0.003712
Basque_Spanish:BAS31,0.133173,0.149283,0.058077,0. 011305,0.055395,-0.008088,-0.002585,0.002077,0.033542,0.046835,-0.009094,0.006894,-0.028543,-0.014863,0.022937,0.009281,0.000652,0.000127,-0.002011,-0.00025,0.005989,0.006925,-0.003697,-0.005663,0.000479
Basque_Spanish:BAS32,0.138864,0.156392,0.050534,0. 010982,0.04924,-0.003068,-0.001175,0.002308,0.034769,0.045195,0.002111,0.014 237,-0.018731,-0.018029,0.014929,0.014717,0.003651,-0.000127,-0.008045,0.000625,-0.001123,0.000742,-0.011709,-0.005422,-0.001557
Basque_Spanish:BAS33,0.126344,0.15436,0.058077,-0.000646,0.062781,-0.000837,-0.00094,0,0.02577,0.051755,-0.008931,0.012589,-0.016799,-0.007707,0.020494,0.001724,-0.007302,0.004181,-0.002388,-0.010505,0.015223,0.00779,-0.007395,-0.011447,0.002754
Basque_Spanish:BAS35,0.133173,0.152329,0.061094,0. 016796,0.053241,0.000279,-0.010575,0.005307,0.030065,0.040821,-0.005846,0.014687,-0.026164,-0.013625,0.020629,-0.002917,-0.009518,0.001774,-0.000251,-0.003877,0.017095,0.002349,-0.006532,-0.015062,-0.002155

Si las hago sólo con etas muestras Basque_Spanish estos son mis resultados:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zu0xUMjA2ko/XnDPmSmB4JI/AAAAAAAADQc/OkP90ke86kA6vxRSDHGmGbFabo047Fv4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basqueONLY.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qDZXNvRP7Do/XnDPyjVeXtI/AAAAAAAADQk/9IDfNluTksw9Inq10N_IchtjDlgRelxtwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BASQUEonlytarget.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_rGQ54qJwIk/XnDPr3DWTfI/AAAAAAAADQg/bPY2fz4u_Ksq0IreGs7Q-E4vMdoH_zWfQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BASQUEonlyDISTANCE.JPEG

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 02:10 PM
Anatolian_Farmer,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Lapa_Do_Santo,0.050765,-0.3095332,0.1206032,0.098515,-0.1156522,-0.017626,-0.284645,-0.3400012,-0.0136212,-0.0184422,0.002241,-0.003267,0.0004162,0.017478,-0.0065688,0.0064438,0.006493,-0.001267,0.0026898,0.003727,-0.0010482,0.007963,-0.002662,-0.0043378,0.001413
Gambian,-0.6064875,0.0671942,0.0197362,0.0114665,0.0021028, 0.0055777,-0.0358392,0.0387677,-0.0317353,0.0241463,0.0054132,-0.0036467,0.0162287,-0.0009865,0.011016,-0.0153362,0.009692,-0.0011823,-0.002116,-0.0032307,-0.001643,-0.0018137,0.0043958,-0.0001005,0.001377
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Shahr_e_Sukhteh,0.033009,-0.081242,-0.184789,0.125325,-0.09848,0.06777,0.002585,0.007615,0.03661,0.02606,-0.002273,0.010041,-0.005798,0.006744,0.004479,0.001326,0.008605,0.001 267,0.00352,0.001376,0.003743,-0.004946,-0.00037,-0.00253,-0.007305
Jarawa,-0.0219821,-0.2430289,-0.1324164,0.0986968,0.0323713,-0.0045841,-0.01012,0.0065044,0.0546974,0.0238044,0.0228054,0. 0027349,-0.0041532,0.0103562,-0.0108067,-0.0114441,0.0094529,-0.0019082,-0.0062221,0.0286778,-0.0046401,0.0111366,-0.0123402,0.0022668,0.0049844
Kura_Araxes,0.1013025,0.133034,-0.07071,-0.043605,-0.0498555,-0.0092035,0.008108,-0.011653,-0.066368,-0.01631,0.0030855,0.011015,-0.019846,0.005849,0.0042075,-0.0102095,-0.0001305,-0.003927,-0.001697,0.0032515,0.003494,-0.000247,-0.0036975,-0.0090975,-0.0030535
Pre_Pottery_Neolithic_B,0.072847,0.1639064,-0.0316026,-0.1361132,0.0332986,-0.0645352,-0.0134426,-0.0147684,0.0741604,0.03601,0.0188046,-0.0150764,0.035738,0.0025596,-0.0217696,0.006099,0.0098048,-0.0013176,-0.0047264,0.0188088,-0.001797,0.0071472,0.0008872,-0.0056874,-0.0037602
Iberomaurusian,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
Western_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1246365,0.116278,0.18478 9,0.189279,0.1546445,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675 ,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Yamnaya,0.1259169,0.0887318,0.0428032,0.1164425,-0.028236,0.045529,0.0036719,-0.002279,-0.0558095,-0.0715732,0.0009742,-0.0003934,-0.0019885,-0.025529,0.0362032,0.0160764,-0.0005869,-0.0012038,-0.0038966,0.0149446,-0.0022928,6.19e-05,0.0112925,0.0189332,-0.0039516
Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Hajji_Firuz_Tepe,0.0896355,0.1327805 ,-0.0780642,-0.0667802,-0.0437002,-0.0196618,0.0098702,-0.0065768,-0.035178,-0.0030977,0.0051965,-0.0013113,-0.0006317,-0.0019613,-0.0046145,0.0036128,0.00088,0.0022802,0.0032995,-0.0063468,0.0045232,-0.0033388,-0.00835,-0.0118992,0.0006588
Kolyma_Meso,0.046667,-0.344264,0.090509,0.045543,-0.08063,-0.023148,-0.048882,-0.053075,-0.007363,-0.025149,0.006983,-0.007343,0.014717,-0.025598,-0.020901,-0.003315,0.00339,0.008868,0.016592,0.01038,0.00274 5,-0.022752,0.010723,0.009037,0.011855
Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152
Papuan,-0.0459844,-0.2410866,-0.2637584,0.3092414,0.2069308,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.0070152,-0.041273,-0.0119546,-0.018902,0.000869,0.0013974,-0.00311,0.0001628,-0.0003186,-0.0021906,-0.0018498,-0.001081,-0.0015256,0.0023458,0.0018052,0.0012324,0.0018314, 0.0016048
Natufian,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.1298 55,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Scandinavian_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1336282,0.0930224,0 .1688746,0.1924444,0.0858622,0.0573958,0.0004702,0 .0113534,0.0371414,-0.0417686,0.0005844,-0.0192728,0.0332406,-0.015634,0.031107,0.0482892,0.0039376,0.002914,-0.0052792,0.0391688,0.0505858,0.0146652,-0.0218642,-0.0969536,0.0053168

He agregado las muestras de cazadores escandinavos, caucasicos y karelios, puede que sean redundantes con el yamnaya, pero no estoy seguro.

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.9181% / 0.03918126
48.8 Anatolian_Farmer
30.2 Yamnaya
9.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.0 Iberomaurusian
2.8 Natufian
2.2 Gambian
2.0 Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer

gixajo
03-17-2020, 02:18 PM
[QUOTE=gixajo;6563376]Los resultados del que te dije no están hechos con esa misma source, en el global25_pca_scaled que se descraga con tu enlace, no hay ningún Spanish_XXX ni Basque_XXX, tiene que ser otro con el que lo hiciste.[/QUOTE

Claro que están.

Con las mismas coordenadas otra vez:



Pues me debí bajar otras sources , porque en el archivo mío descargado no están esas. Ni ningún Basque ni ningún Spanish, me vienen como Iberian...

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 02:18 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 3.9181% / 0.03918126
48.8 Anatolian_Farmer
30.2 Yamnaya
9.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.0 Iberomaurusian
2.8 Natufian
2.2 Gambian
2.0 Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer

Super interesante! Ese KHG está como el de Defcon2, y yo que pensé que era el báltico entre los ibéricos... :lmao

Gallop
03-17-2020, 02:20 PM
[QUOTE=gixajo;6563376]Los resultados del que te dije no están hechos con esa misma source, en el global25_pca_scaled que se descraga con tu enlace, no hay ningún Spanish_XXX ni Basque_XXX, tiene que ser otro con el que lo hiciste.[/QUOTE

Claro que están.

Con las mismas coordenadas otra vez:

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 0.8926% / 0.00892567
25.8 Basque_Spanish
20.0 Sardinian
18.2 Irish
6.6 Portuguese
6.4 Spanish_Terres_de_l'Ebre
5.6 French_South
5.2 Berber_MAR_TIZ
5.0 North_Ossetian
1.8 Polish
1.4 Abkhasian
1.4 Dutch
1.4 Somali_Kenya
0.6 Ket
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator


Claro que está Basque_spanish

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-4Zrl-nKI4Fg/XnDNvWHpULI/AAAAAAAADQI/iG8PFnmEk5YvxhIckqaJkFdKH1eoXjCDACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basquespanish.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Zt3iQBnoIrg/XnDONPeBu9I/AAAAAAAADQQ/LFcS7At-Q9kVTrEFVeESGPfkaRev-oW4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basque_spanish2.jpeg

Basque_French:HGDP01357,0.121791,0.157407,0.05242, 0.006137,0.055395,0.000279,-0.000705,0.007846,0.030474,0.042825,-0.009743,0.013488,-0.023191,-0.007294,0.011943,0.000928,-0.018515,-0.00266,-0.002137,-0.001,0.007861,0.00779,-0.011462,-0.013496,0.003592
Basque_French:HGDP01358,0.127482,0.151314,0.055814 ,0.008721,0.05601,0.001394,-0.006815,0.004615,0.032724,0.042643,-0.007145,0.008093,-0.016353,-0.009909,0.012893,-0.007027,-0.012256,0.00266,0.000251,0.001376,0.009608,0.0043 28,-0.003328,-0.009519,-0.00012
Basque_French:HGDP01359,0.125205,0.153345,0.055437 ,0.01292,0.061242,0.001394,0.003995,0.006,0.029247 ,0.042643,-0.012829,0.012139,-0.022745,-0.007844,0.015472,-0.008221,-0.014473,0.003167,-0.00088,-0.001,0.012228,-0.00136,-0.007765,-0.006627,0.002395
Basque_French:HGDP01360,0.133173,0.149283,0.063733 ,0.020995,0.056318,0.005578,-0.000705,0.004615,0.034155,0.049386,-0.012829,0.01124,-0.02438,-0.020368,0.019951,0.011933,-0.005607,0.004181,0.003017,-0.007754,0.012728,-0.000124,-0.007395,-0.01205,-0.001078
Basque_French:HGDP01362,0.122929,0.152329,0.054682 ,0.018411,0.059396,0.004183,-0.000235,0.004615,0.033746,0.037541,-0.013153,0.010191,-0.020069,-0.020919,0.005022,-0.00769,-0.02021,0.003927,-0.000628,-0.012381,0.006738,0.005935,-0.007641,-0.008917,-0.000958
Basque_French:HGDP01363,0.127482,0.15436,0.057322, 0.010982,0.055395,0.002789,-0.00141,-0.000692,0.026179,0.035901,-0.007795,0.009591,-0.025124,-0.015276,0.012622,0.005436,0.00013,0.002027,0.0027 65,0,0.010981,-0.002349,-0.012078,-0.00723,-0.001916
Basque_French:HGDP01364,0.12862,0.152329,0.044877, 0.008398,0.053856,-0.003626,0.000235,-0.001385,0.027611,0.035536,-0.006171,0.006145,-0.017096,-0.008808,0.013301,0.001193,-0.014603,0.005828,-0.004525,-0.002751,0.009982,0.002349,-0.00912,-0.01217,0.002395
Basque_French:HGDP01365,0.12862,0.15436,0.048649,0 .011305,0.054779,0.00502,-0.001175,0.001615,0.03027,0.046106,-0.007957,0.01109,-0.022894,-0.012799,0.014386,-0.009679,-0.017341,0.006334,-0.002011,-0.006753,0.007112,0.001237,-0.012695,-0.004097,0.003473
Basque_French:HGDP01366,0.137726,0.147252,0.055814 ,0.017442,0.052317,0.002231,0.00094,0.009461,0.028 02,0.034989,-0.008769,0.008992,-0.01888,-0.015551,0.016694,0.00053,0.00326,0.002154,-0.006788,-0.006753,0.012228,0.006183,-0.008627,-0.003976,-0.00479
Basque_French:HGDP01367,0.127482,0.148267,0.062979 ,0.01292,0.059396,0.005857,-0.008225,-0.003461,0.033542,0.044466,-0.006333,0.012439,-0.019029,-0.021469,0.009908,-0.006762,-0.019558,0.00266,0.003771,-0.007128,0.012104,0.000866,-0.006286,-0.013616,-0.002275
Basque_Spanish:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0. 008075,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
Basque_Spanish:BAS25,0.134311,0.15436,0.056945,0.0 0646,0.056934,-0.002789,-0.002585,-0.003231,0.032928,0.046288,-0.012666,0.008542,-0.025718,-0.026424,0.011943,-0.000398,-0.01343,0.001394,-0.001131,0.004252,0.006988,-0.005564,-0.012448,-0.006868,0.005868
Basque_Spanish:BAS27,0.126344,0.148267,0.059962,0. 006137,0.059088,-0.000837,-0.0047,0.003231,0.032315,0.049933,-0.001461,0.009591,-0.02557,-0.028626,0.015608,0.008618,0.001434,0.000633,0.003 142,0.002626,0.012478,0.005935,0.000246,-0.004217,0.000599
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Si las hago sólo con etas muestras Basque_Spanish estos son mis resultados:

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zu0xUMjA2ko/XnDPmSmB4JI/AAAAAAAADQc/OkP90ke86kA6vxRSDHGmGbFabo047Fv4gCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/basqueONLY.JPEG

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qDZXNvRP7Do/XnDPyjVeXtI/AAAAAAAADQk/9IDfNluTksw9Inq10N_IchtjDlgRelxtwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BASQUEonlytarget.jpeg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_rGQ54qJwIk/XnDPr3DWTfI/AAAAAAAADQg/bPY2fz4u_Ksq0IreGs7Q-E4vMdoH_zWfQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/BASQUEonlyDISTANCE.JPEG

Te pondría todas las coordenadas pero ocuparía un montón. Pues ya ves ahí está. Están en el enlace. No sé por qué nadie publica los resultados con estas coordenadas y además con capturas de pantalla.


Fíjate los andaluces como sacamos basque lol

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 02:28 PM
Super interesante! Ese KHG está como el de Defcon2, y yo que pensé que era el báltico entre los ibéricos... :lmao

Me suele sali muchas veces algun valor de europa de leste, no se si estará relacionado con ese Karelio :p

gixajo
03-17-2020, 02:37 PM
Te pondría todas las coordenadas pero ocuparía un montón. Pues ya ves ahí está. Están en el enlace. No sé por qué nadie publica los resultados con estas coordenadas y además con capturas de pantalla.


Fíjate los andaluces como sacamos basque lol

Joder, casi 5000 lineas...

Me lié con todos los archivos que tengo ya descargados con nombres similares.

ya te digo, seguro que todo lo vasco mío es de mi familia paterna andaluza ;)

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 0.5606% / 0.00560604
25.8 Basque_Spanish
10.4 Spanish_Galicia
10.0 Dutch
9.4 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
8.8 French_South
7.8 Basque_French
7.6 Sardinian
4.8 Portuguese
4.4 Spanish_Andalucia
4.0 Berber_Tunisia_Sen
3.6 Polish
2.4 French_Occitanie
0.4 German
0.2 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Koinanbe
0.2 Yemenite_Mahra

Gallop
03-17-2020, 02:42 PM
Ya te digo

Gallop
03-17-2020, 02:44 PM
Con todas las muestras

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-VAeFOtSsj7Y/XnBEkmuT7RI/AAAAAAAADPo/YoaNv3WqqWItJlOp_OwSwsZW9ROcf00ggCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wqN7SyGo5Wk/XnBErwqz-dI/AAAAAAAADPw/wwMIq_TOTjYm5DTKIMiIuF1eFDoQxPuJQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO25.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aVO4SlELcnM/XnBEvD3pOiI/AAAAAAAADP0/5wX0eoUjPYQpGeC71b8JQ-5jU3MLV9OyACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO50.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-840p3IwJ0mk/XnBEn26p3NI/AAAAAAAADPs/YxxBDuAFcFI8jHvAf-uYanp0Va3yhBZvgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNOO1.jpg

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-3RftvBmvQoQ/XnBEzEUroxI/AAAAAAAADP4/f66sw1v6_8sAmNq7afPzvNLnmMeGpxVDwCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Global25MODERNTRIFASICO.jpg

Lo pongo aquí para verlo mejor

Tengo algunos destinos más. El ruído me coincide más o menos con el resultados de FTDNA el bereber he mirado y tiene un 0.6 de Siberia.

Irish ya me había dado en 24Genetics en Connacht donde los hombres eran guapos y sabios. lo

Ossetian lo había sacado ya en Mnmontes. Sardinian imagino que será basal como algo genérico para el Mediterráneo, pienso.

El NA prácticamente lo que ya tenía de FTDNA; aunque ese 4% lo veo dando tumbos para aquí y para allá en las diferentes empresas, pero bueno coherente con otros resultados de tantos otros sitios. Parece que la cosa va avanzando poco a poco.

Cantabria me aparece mucho en Gedmatch y MTA en estas ni aparece. En MTA sí que he sacado antiguo de Menorca y Mallorca. En 24 Genetics Gerona, Aragón, pero se actualizan y te sacan otros tantos sitios. Entre unas y otras hay muchos cambios, movimientos. Y vascones en MTA por un tubo.

Quizá se necesitan más muestras modernas actualizarlas y tener un número mayor de las poblaciones modernas. No sé si en nuestro país están por la labor.

AlfonsoVIII
03-17-2020, 04:33 PM
¿Habéis visto esto? ¿Qué os parece?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96202&d=1584462765

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 05:42 PM
¿Habéis visto esto? ¿Qué os parece?
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=96202&d=1584462765

Coño cabron! Hasta que te dignas a aparecer por estos lugares! :lmao

Pues tio esa imagen no solo que esta interesante, si no que esta util, porque tengo un enredo armando mi calculadora de componentes antiguos en G25, y no se si redunda algo, pues he puesto CHG, EHG, WHG y SHG juntos, obviamente con el YAMNAYA tambien, entonces no se que redunda.

AlfonsoVIII
03-17-2020, 06:08 PM
Coño cabron! Hasta que te dignas a aparecer por estos lugares! :lmao

Pues tio esa imagen no solo que esta interesante, si no que esta util, porque tengo un enredo armando mi calculadora de componentes antiguos en G25, y no se si redunda algo, pues he puesto CHG, EHG, WHG y SHG juntos, obviamente con el YAMNAYA tambien, entonces no se que redunda.

Hoy andaba algo ocupado, y tampoco es que se mueva nada interesante por aquí.

No sé si esta tabla de mestizajes es correcta, pues se supone que los "Bell Beaker North" tenían no menos de la mitad de su ascendencia yambaya, y según esta tabla no tendrían más de 1/4 de yamnaya.

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 06:11 PM
Hoy andaba algo ocupado, y tampoco es que se mueva nada interesante por aquí.

No sé si esta tabla de mestizajes es correcta, pues se supone que los "Bell Beaker North" tenían no menos de la mitad de su ascendencia yambaya, y según esta tabla no tendrían más de 1/4 de yamnaya.

Pues hazlo interesante y te haces la prueba y pagas por el G25, vas a ver que todos los dias vas a tener algo interesante que hacer por aqui :lmao

Pensaba que los Bell Beaker North eran casi en su totalidad yamnayas.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 10:20 PM
Mapa y calculador de Nurzat : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317767-Map-Europe-5-main-components-(Nurzat-K12)

https://i.imgur.com/pWlD9Og.jpg

Mis resultados

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.7849% / 0.01784855
52.0 Western_European
39.6 Southern_European
2.8 Eastern_European
2.6 Berber
2.6 Near_Eastern
0.4 Papuan

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8649% / 0.01864901 | ADC: 0.25x
56.4 Western_European
39.8 Southern_European
2.0 Berber
1.8 Near_Eastern

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8649% / 0.01864901 | ADC: 0.25x
56.4 Western_European
39.8 Southern_European
2.0 Berber
1.8 Near_Eastern

Ya puse como normal el que dijiste tú Spaniard.

mitalit
03-17-2020, 10:22 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.1074% / 0.02107371
57.2 Western_European
30.8 Southern_European
5.8 Berber
5.0 Caucasian
0.8 East_Asian
0.2 Papuan
0.2 Siberian

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 2.1955% / 0.02195495 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Western_European
30.6 Southern_European
5.2 Berber
4.2 Caucasian
0.4 East_Asian

mitalit
03-17-2020, 10:25 PM
Que poco southern european soy,

gixajo
03-17-2020, 10:41 PM
Que poco southern european soy,

Aquí cada cual tiramos más de un lado o del otro, pero en general a lo que más te pareces, dentro de tu "exotismo" es a la península.

Yo me acerco bastante a la media peninsular, aunque también varío un poco.

gixajo
03-17-2020, 10:45 PM
La media peninsular de los tres que hay es : 53 West Euro , 38,3 South Euro.

Rocinante
03-17-2020, 10:50 PM
Target: Alejandro_scaled
Distance: 2.5600% / 0.02559957
33.0 Southern_European
29.0 Western_European
13.8 Eastern_European
10.6 Berber
9.4 Caucasian
4.0 Near_Eastern
0.2 Siberian

Pedro Ruben
03-17-2020, 11:49 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 1.9318% / 0.01931799
49.4 Western_European
26.0 Southern_European
11.0 Berber
6.4 Near_Eastern
4.6 Eastern_European
1.8 African
0.8 American

PT Tagus
03-18-2020, 12:36 AM
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Natufian,0.025041,0.151314,-0.035072,-0.144705,0.033545,-0.081157,-0.032196,-0.008769,0.127418,0.013668,0.037187,-0.027575,0.086818,0.001789,0.010722,-0.007955,-0.020601,-0.008995,-0.021494,0.038018,0.007237,0.00507,0.005916,0.0030 12,0.00491
Caucasus_Hunter_Gatherer,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Karelia_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.1298 55,0.2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
Scandinavian_Hunter_Gatherer,0.1336282,0.0930224,0 .1688746,0.1924444,0.0858622,0.0573958,0.0004702,0 .0113534,0.0371414,-0.0417686,0.0005844,-0.0192728,0.0332406,-0.015634,0.031107,0.0482892,0.0039376,0.002914,-0.0052792,0.0391688,0.0505858,0.0146652,-0.0218642,-0.0969536,0.0053168

He agregado las muestras de cazadores escandinavos, caucasicos y karelios, puede que sean redundantes con el yamnaya, pero no estoy seguro.


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.7735% / 0.03773478
50.2 Anatolian_Farmer
29.6 Yamnaya
9.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.6 Natufian
3.2 Yoruba
1.8 Iberomaurusian


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 3.9363% / 0.03936257 | ADC: 0.25x
52.6 Anatolian_Farmer
30.6 Yamnaya
8.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.8 Natufian
2.0 Yoruba
1.8 Iberomaurusian

PT Tagus
03-18-2020, 12:45 AM
Mapa y calculador de Nurzat : https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317767-Map-Europe-5-main-components-(Nurzat-K12)

https://i.imgur.com/pWlD9Og.jpg

Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.7261% / 0.01726105
48.2 Western_European
32.0 Southern_European
11.8 Near_Eastern
3.4 Berber
3.2 African
1.0 Eastern_European
0.4 Caucasian


Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 1.9136% / 0.01913570 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Western_European
30.8 Southern_European
10.0 Near_Eastern
6.8 Berber
1.6 African



Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.09329075 Western_European
0.10009522 Southern_European
0.15299752 Eastern_European
0.16933350 Caucasian
0.18772005 Near_Eastern
0.23353984 Berber
0.45889457 South_Asian
0.62566487 East_Asian
0.62661534 Siberian
0.71981383 American
0.73040790 African
0.80934491 Papuan

Cerca del promedio de Portugal.

gixajo
03-18-2020, 01:00 AM
Cerca del promedio de Portugal.

Muito perto.:thumb001:

Gallop
03-18-2020, 12:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fLvPfNB.png

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.3070% / 0.02306969
52.4 Western_European
35.6 Southern_European
8.8 Berber
2.2 Caucasian
0.6 Eastern_European
0.4 Siberian

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.3674% / 0.02367422 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Western_European
36.2 Southern_European
7.8 Berber
1.2 Caucasian


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.08024596 Western_European
0.09584165 Southern_European
0.14433004 Eastern_European
0.17844017 Caucasian
0.20968626 Near_Eastern
0.25420733 Berber
0.46350479 South_Asian
0.62307017 Siberian
0.62455240 East_Asian
0.72357090 American
0.75180926 African
0.81082711 Papuan



Un poco entre España y Portugal y la influencia etrusca. Los vascos suelen dar alto en Mediterráneo. La media mediterránea me sale más próxima al norte de Italia, etruscos quizá. Western european parece una media más entre Portugal, País vasco y España. Caucasus podría venir de mi 10% de los Balcanes en FTDNA junto con el poco de Este de Europa. No hay Oriente próximo.

El bereber parece similar al de Spaniard 2.0 en el 0.25x se queda con el caucasus, también obtengo Siberia. No sé, el otro día comprobé el bereber que obtuve en Global 25 y tenía un 0.6 de Siberia. Ahora podría estar asociado al Caucasus y Siberia y parece más similar al de Spaniard 2.0 también a CI pero el queda con valor en Near East

Este bereber o es muy antiguo o podría estar relacionado con algo más, quizá South East Europe?


Si ya el bereber que han escogido para la fuente tiene casi un 5% de Beaker Iberian

Target: Berber
Distance: 9.5096% / 0.09509640
65.4 Levant_N
23.6 Africa
4.6 Beaker_Iberia
3.2 South_Asia
2.2 Anc_Saami
1.0 Baltic_BA

Target: Berber
Distance: 24.6930% / 0.24692965
69.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
30.8 Corded_Ware_Proto-Unetice_POL


Target: Berber
Distance: 11.5168% / 0.11516800
35.0 PROTO-BERBERS
30.4 NILOTIC_SSA
24.4 PRE-HELLENIC_ANATOLIAN_PEOPLE
10.2 ITALIC_PEOPLE


Fíjate que han escogido para la fuente el bereber que se podía ajustar más a españoles y portugueses, no al revés. Entre el NA e Iberia tienen metido un lío y por eso no nos cuadran las cosas demasiado.


FTDNA me da un 4% de NA y a través del Cercano Oriente y aún tengo mis reservas, 24 Genetics un 0.60 y evidentemente una calculadora de aficionado en algunos casos no son muy precisas por eso cuando he visto el 8.8 me he dicho aquí algo que no cuadra al contrastarlo con empresas más serias.

Rocinante
03-18-2020, 11:58 PM
Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 1.0071% / 0.01007082
54.0 FARMER
38.8 YAMNAYA
4.8 MAR_EN
2.4 WHG

Target: Spanish_Aragon
Distance: 1.2581% / 0.01258087
55.8 FARMER
40.6 YAMNAYA
2.8 MAR_EN
0.8 WHG

Target: Spanish_Asturias
Distance: 2.1270% / 0.02126987
49.4 YAMNAYA
44.0 FARMER
5.4 MAR_EN
1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.2 WHG

Target: Spanish_Baleares
Distance: 0.7990% / 0.00798987
59.4 FARMER
35.4 YAMNAYA
2.0 WHG
1.8 MAR_EN
1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Canarias
Distance: 0.8480% / 0.00848017
54.0 FARMER
32.4 YAMNAYA
9.0 MAR_EN
2.0 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
1.8 WHG
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Cantabria
Distance: 1.2399% / 0.01239927
59.2 FARMER
37.0 YAMNAYA
2.0 MAR_EN
1.8 WHG

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 1.0585% / 0.01058504
57.2 FARMER
37.0 YAMNAYA
2.6 MAR_EN
2.0 WHG
0.6 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
Distance: 1.2023% / 0.01202331
53.0 FARMER
39.2 YAMNAYA
5.2 MAR_EN
2.0 WHG
0.6 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Cataluna
Distance: 1.1159% / 0.01115916
52.6 FARMER
38.8 YAMNAYA
3.6 WHG
3.0 MAR_EN
2.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Extremadura
Distance: 0.8808% / 0.00880774
56.0 FARMER
34.0 YAMNAYA
6.0 MAR_EN
3.2 WHG
0.6 IRN_Wezmeh_N
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9342% / 0.00934225
54.8 FARMER
36.6 YAMNAYA
5.2 MAR_EN
3.2 WHG
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_La_Rioja
Distance: 1.2779% / 0.01277854
59.4 FARMER
29.2 YAMNAYA
8.0 WHG
1.8 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
1.4 MAR_EN
0.2 IRN_Wezmeh_N

Target: Spanish_Murcia
Distance: 0.9462% / 0.00946177
55.6 FARMER
32.6 YAMNAYA
4.0 WHG
3.4 MAR_EN
2.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
2.0 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Navarra
Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811213
59.4 FARMER
37.4 YAMNAYA
2.0 MAR_EN
1.2 WHG

Target: Spanish_Pais_Vasco
Distance: 2.0732% / 0.02073197
54.4 FARMER
40.4 YAMNAYA
3.8 WHG
1.2 MAR_EN
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Valencia
Distance: 1.0338% / 0.01033824
56.0 FARMER
37.0 YAMNAYA
3.6 MAR_EN
2.6 WHG
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Rocinante
03-18-2020, 11:59 PM
Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 1.0071% / 0.01007082
36.2 FARMER:Iberia_N
17.8 FARMER:CZE_N
16.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
10.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
8.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
4.8 MAR_EN
2.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
1.4 WHG:WHG
1.0 WHG:England_Mesolithic

Target: Spanish_Aragon
Distance: 1.2581% / 0.01258087
55.8 FARMER:Iberia_N
15.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
14.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
11.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
2.8 MAR_EN
0.8 WHG:England_Mesolithic

Target: Spanish_Asturias
Distance: 2.1270% / 0.02126987
44.0 FARMER:Iberia_N
35.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
14.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
5.4 MAR_EN
1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.2 WHG:England_Mesolithic

Target: Spanish_Baleares
Distance: 0.7990% / 0.00798987
30.0 FARMER:Iberia_N
25.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
23.6 FARMER:CZE_N
6.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
5.0 FARMER:BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N
3.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_RUS_Kalmykia
2.0 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
1.8 MAR_EN
1.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.8 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
0.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Canarias
Distance: 0.8480% / 0.00848017
30.8 FARMER:Iberia_N
23.2 FARMER:CZE_N
16.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
10.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
9.0 MAR_EN
4.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
2.0 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
1.8 WHG:England_Mesolithic
0.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Cantabria
Distance: 1.2399% / 0.01239943
56.2 FARMER:Iberia_N
19.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
12.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
4.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
3.0 FARMER:CZE_N
2.0 MAR_EN
2.0 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 1.0585% / 0.01058501
43.0 FARMER:Iberia_N
22.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
14.4 FARMER:CZE_N
8.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
6.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
2.6 MAR_EN
2.0 WHG:England_Mesolithic
0.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
Distance: 1.2023% / 0.01202256
34.8 FARMER:Iberia_N
21.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
18.2 FARMER:CZE_N
11.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
6.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
5.4 MAR_EN
2.2 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
0.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Cataluna
Distance: 1.1159% / 0.01115916
46.6 FARMER:Iberia_N
15.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
12.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
8.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
6.0 FARMER:CZE_N
3.6 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
3.0 MAR_EN
2.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
2.0 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Extremadura
Distance: 0.8808% / 0.00880774
34.2 FARMER:Iberia_N
20.2 FARMER:CZE_N
12.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
11.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
10.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
6.0 MAR_EN
2.2 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
1.6 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
1.0 WHG:England_Mesolithic
0.6 IRN_Wezmeh_N
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 0.9345% / 0.00934531
37.0 FARMER:Iberia_N
17.8 FARMER:CZE_N
15.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
10.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
8.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
5.2 MAR_EN
3.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
2.0 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
0.6 WHG:England_Mesolithic
0.4 WHG:WHG
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_La_Rioja
Distance: 1.2779% / 0.01277854
41.0 FARMER:Iberia_N
29.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
14.2 FARMER:GRC_N
8.0 WHG:England_Mesolithic
4.2 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
1.8 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
1.4 MAR_EN
0.2 IRN_Wezmeh_N

Target: Spanish_Murcia
Distance: 0.9461% / 0.00946109
37.6 FARMER:Iberia_N
14.4 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
13.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
13.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
6.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
4.0 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N
3.4 MAR_EN
3.4 FARMER:CZE_N
2.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
2.0 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Spanish_Navarra
Distance: 1.8112% / 0.01811213
59.4 FARMER:Iberia_N
20.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
13.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
4.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
2.0 MAR_EN
1.2 WHG:England_Mesolithic

Target: Spanish_Pais_Vasco
Distance: 2.0732% / 0.02073197
54.4 FARMER:Iberia_N
15.4 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
14.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
9.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
3.8 WHG:WHG
1.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
1.2 MAR_EN
0.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Target: Spanish_Valencia
Distance: 1.0340% / 0.01034034
41.2 FARMER:Iberia_N
17.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
14.8 FARMER:CZE_N
9.0 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR
5.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
4.8 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
3.6 MAR_EN
2.8 WHG:England_Mesolithic
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

Rocinante
03-19-2020, 12:03 AM
Lo de los riojanos y el WHG... Es pa flipar.

PT Tagus
03-19-2020, 12:04 AM
Comparta los resultados de la muestra portuguesa para completar Iberia.
¿Dónde encontraste la hoja de cálculo?

Rocinante
03-19-2020, 12:17 AM
Comparta los resultados de la muestra portuguesa para completar Iberia.
¿Dónde encontraste la hoja de cálculo?

É verdade irmão, desculpe, aqui vai:

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.9393% / 0.00939316
52.6 FARMER
38.6 YAMNAYA
5.4 MAR_EN
2.0 WHG
1.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 0.9393% / 0.00939300
35.4 FARMER:Iberia_N
21.2 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Karagash
17.4 FARMER:CZE_N
8.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
8.6 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_KAZ_Mereke
5.4 MAR_EN
1.4 WHG:England_Mesolithic
1.4 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.6 WHG:ROU_Iron_Gates_N

Eles são semelhantes aos seus, certo? Eu acho viriato também.

Eu fiz a planilha, procurando amostras no eurogenesblog.

PT Tagus
03-19-2020, 12:22 AM
São semelhantes aos meus, sim.

Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.5700% / 0.01569977
54.6 FARMER
35.0 YAMNAYA
4.8 MAR_EN
4.0 WHG
1.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N


Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.8002% / 0.01800242 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 YAMNAYA
43.2 FARMER
2.8 MAR_EN
0.8 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.8 WHG



Distance to: PT_Tagus
0.04191813 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
0.04652058 FARMER:BGR_MP_N
0.05149184 FARMER:BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N
0.05471883 FARMER:BGR_Krepost_N
0.05524578 FARMER:Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.05767998 FARMER:POL_BKG_N
0.05884811 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
0.05933018 FARMER:Anatolia_Kumtepe_N
0.05956821 FARMER:ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N
0.06105487 FARMER:CZE_N
0.06407343 FARMER:Iberia_N
0.06448946 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o
0.06493832 FARMER:GRC_Peloponnese_N
0.06532983 FARMER:ITA_Sardinia_N
0.06667001 FARMER:AUT_LBK_N
0.06704781 FARMER:Anatolia_Boncuklu_N
0.06721591 FARMER:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N
0.06738190 FARMER:BGR_N
0.06839508 FARMER:DEU_LBK_N
0.07018299 FARMER:HRV_Impressa_N
0.07116758 FARMER:Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.07172019 FARMER:HUN_Koros_N
0.07398280 FARMER:HRV_Cardial_N
0.07423510 RUS_Baikal_N
0.07753660 FARMER:ROU_N

Rocinante
03-19-2020, 12:33 AM
São semelhantes aos meus, sim.

Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.5700% / 0.01569977
54.6 FARMER
35.0 YAMNAYA
4.8 MAR_EN
4.0 WHG
1.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N


Target: PT_Tagus
Distance: 1.8002% / 0.01800242 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 YAMNAYA
43.2 FARMER
2.8 MAR_EN
0.8 KEN_Early_Pastoral_N
0.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
0.8 WHG



Distance to: PT_Tagus
0.04191813 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_BGR
0.04652058 FARMER:BGR_MP_N
0.05149184 FARMER:BGR_Dzhulyunitsa_N
0.05471883 FARMER:BGR_Krepost_N
0.05524578 FARMER:Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
0.05767998 FARMER:POL_BKG_N
0.05884811 FARMER:SRB_Starcevo_N
0.05933018 FARMER:Anatolia_Kumtepe_N
0.05956821 FARMER:ITA_Ripabianca_di_Monterado_N
0.06105487 FARMER:CZE_N
0.06407343 FARMER:Iberia_N
0.06448946 YAMNAYA:Yamnaya_UKR_Ozera_o
0.06493832 FARMER:GRC_Peloponnese_N
0.06532983 FARMER:ITA_Sardinia_N
0.06667001 FARMER:AUT_LBK_N
0.06704781 FARMER:Anatolia_Boncuklu_N
0.06721591 FARMER:ITA_Grotta_Continenza_N
0.06738190 FARMER:BGR_N
0.06839508 FARMER:DEU_LBK_N
0.07018299 FARMER:HRV_Impressa_N
0.07116758 FARMER:Anatolia_Barcin_N
0.07172019 FARMER:HUN_Koros_N
0.07398280 FARMER:HRV_Cardial_N
0.07423510 RUS_Baikal_N
0.07753660 FARMER:ROU_N

Lo que me esta extrañando es la variante de WHG, pareciera que los ibericos al final no teniamos mucho de este componente, y ya hay que fiarse porque las distancias estan siendo muy buenas, la mia es menor a 1 en distancia, y la tuya 1.57, esta bastante bien.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 05:29 PM
He visto esto por ahí: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?316492-Insular-Celtic-G25-calculator

A ver que os sale, especialmente para un irlandés que hay por aquí disfrazado.

Y no miro a nadie...:rolleyes:

gixajo
03-19-2020, 05:30 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0044% / 0.03004435
69.2 Continental_celt
21.8 Roman
6.6 Insular_Celt
2.4 Germanic

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.9620% / 0.03961967 | ADC: 1x
95.2 Continental_celt
4.8 Roman

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.1517% / 0.03151661 | ADC: 0.5x
83.8 Continental_celt
16.2 Roman

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0210% / 0.03021014 | ADC: 0.25x
74.2 Continental_celt
20.2 Roman
5.6 Insular_Celt

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.04468362 Continental_celt:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA111
0.06826196 Insular_Celt:6DT22
0.07133936 Insular_Celt:6DT23
0.07360942 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.07426116 Insular_Celt:3DT16
0.07462865 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0156
0.07599887 Insular_Celt:6DT18
0.07903126 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0160
0.07919035 Insular_Celt:6DT21
0.08061880 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.08091884 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33
0.08562463 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_486
0.08649498 Insular_Celt:6DT3
0.08873542 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.09409662 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_249
0.09441308 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_106
0.09515873 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_316
0.12511755 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR44
0.13220344 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR43

Defcon2
03-19-2020, 05:58 PM
Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0044% / 0.03004435
69.2 Continental_celt
21.8 Roman
6.6 Insular_Celt
2.4 Germanic

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.9620% / 0.03961967 | ADC: 1x
95.2 Continental_celt
4.8 Roman

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.1517% / 0.03151661 | ADC: 0.5x
83.8 Continental_celt
16.2 Roman

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.0210% / 0.03021014 | ADC: 0.25x
74.2 Continental_celt
20.2 Roman
5.6 Insular_Celt

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.04468362 Continental_celt:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA111
0.06826196 Insular_Celt:6DT22
0.07133936 Insular_Celt:6DT23
0.07360942 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.07426116 Insular_Celt:3DT16
0.07462865 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0156
0.07599887 Insular_Celt:6DT18
0.07903126 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0160
0.07919035 Insular_Celt:6DT21
0.08061880 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.08091884 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33
0.08562463 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_486
0.08649498 Insular_Celt:6DT3
0.08873542 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.09409662 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_249
0.09441308 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_106
0.09515873 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_316
0.12511755 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR44
0.13220344 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR43


La distancia es peor:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.6787% / 0.04678700
72.6 Continental_celt
27.4 Roman

Aunque me gusta que comparado con un vasco tenga más "romano".

mitalit
03-19-2020, 06:17 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3143% / 0.03314323
39.8 Insular_Celt
32.8 Continental_celt
27.4 Roman

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3235% / 0.03323519 | ADC: 0.25x
37.4 Insular_Celt
36.6 Continental_celt
26.0 Roman

Pues si que es curioso que me salga mas insular que continental

gixajo
03-19-2020, 06:19 PM
La distancia es peor:


Aunque me gusta que comparado con un vasco tenga más "romano".

Con uno "aproximadamente vasco".

Está hecho básicamente para irlandeses y todas las poblaciones del datasheet están bastante alejadas dela península, así que tampoco vamos a obtener distancias muy cercanas.

Salvo igual, el irlandés disfrazado que está entre nosotros.

Y no miro a nadie...

gixajo
03-19-2020, 06:21 PM
Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3143% / 0.03314323
39.8 Insular_Celt
32.8 Continental_celt
27.4 Roman

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3235% / 0.03323519 | ADC: 0.25x
37.4 Insular_Celt
36.6 Continental_celt
26.0 Roman

Pues si que es curioso que me salga mas insular que continental

Vaya, que casualidad...

¿Te estabas tomando unas Guinness en el pub?:rolleyes:

mitalit
03-19-2020, 06:25 PM
Vaya, que casualidad...

¿Te estabas tomando unas Guinness en el pub?:rolleyes:

Los que están en el pub son los ingleses, los irlandeses los tenemos cerrados. Digo los tienen, a veces yo confundir.

gixajo
03-19-2020, 06:26 PM
Sí, te sale bastante insular, aunque las distancias son similares a las nuestras, los irlandeses que ponen resultados en ese hilo andan por distancias de 2.xxx o menos.

Sin más, por poner calculadoras diferentes.

mitalit
03-19-2020, 06:42 PM
Yo estoy mas aburrido de la cuarentena

Gallop
03-19-2020, 07:29 PM
Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 3.5198% / 0.03519753

72.8 Continental_celt
23.0 Roman
4.2 Germanic

Target: Gallop_scaled

Distance: 3.5352% / 0.03535172 | ADC: 0.25x
78.8 Continental_celt
21.2 Roman



Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.04950921 Continental_celt:CZE_Hallstatt_Bylany:DA111
0.07192624 Insular_Celt:6DT22
0.07690780 Insular_Celt:6DT23
0.07730566 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.08048659 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0156
0.08049338 Insular_Celt:3DT16
0.08072115 Insular_Celt:6DT21
0.08097823 Insular_Celt:6DT18
0.08198470 Insular_Celt:England_IA:I0160
0.08295194 Germanic:DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33
0.08311004 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.09019082 Insular_Celt:6DT3
0.09073196 Germanic:DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.09129658 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_486
0.09669308 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_249
0.09954499 Germanic:DEU_MA:AED_106
0.10016960 Germanic:DEU_MA:STR_316
0.12430136 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR44
0.13179651 Roman:ITA_Rome_Imperial:RMPR43

Hallstatt no me ha venido de sorpresa porque en MTA tengo Deep Dive con esta muestra y teniendo en cuenta que la muestra tiene una calidad de 42 no está mal el resultado, podría ser más incluso.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ukeK_eMG4so/XiHVOomGwvI/AAAAAAAACPk/dY_uyCiYLlAKdhLLqyxTSheQ2i44MkexQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/HalstattCeltDA111.JPEG

Rocinante
03-19-2020, 07:39 PM
Estoy creando una calculadora mucho mejor que la de ayer, que eso era un fiasco. Espero que los resultados lo pongan en sus firmas en mi honor.

Defcon2
03-19-2020, 08:40 PM
Estoy creando una calculadora mucho mejor que la de ayer, que eso era un fiasco. Espero que los resultados lo pongan en sus firmas en mi honor.

De mientras te dedico este video para amenizar la espera.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA

Rocinante
03-19-2020, 08:57 PM
De mientras te dedico este video para amenizar la espera.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA

ALEJANDRO, ALEJANDRO,
ALEJANDRO, ALEJANDRO,
ALE - ALE - JANDRO,
ALE - ALE - JANDROOOOOO...

mitalit
03-19-2020, 08:59 PM
De mientras te dedico este video para amenizar la espera.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqrrmev4mA

Yo a ti no te puedo dedicar un estado defcon 2 (lo he intentado, pero imposible), espero que te conformes con el estado de emergencia que tanto me ha costado conseguirte.

Rocinante
03-20-2020, 07:55 AM
Steppe_Pastoralist:Yamnaya_RUS_Samara,0.0110333,0. 0087667,0.0113222,0.0357111,-0.0093333,0.0161556,0.0015333,-0.0011111,-0.0273333,-0.04,0.0011222,2.22e-05,-0.0018111,-0.0169333,0.0269778,0.0118889,-0.0009444,-0.0014111,-0.0030556,0.0110111,-0.0025444,0.0006111,0.0089778,0.0154444,-0.0037889
Iberomaurusian:MAR_Taforalt,-0.01668,0.00802,-0.00644,-0.0265,0.00898,-0.0198,-0.03004,0.00798,0.07598,0.00192,0.01288,-0.02124,0.05026,-0.0373,0.05246,-0.02738,0.00404,-0.05218,-0.1133,0.03118,-0.0302,-0.10152,0.05924,-0.01142,0.01374
Early_European_Farmer:HUN_Koros_N,0.0104,0.0176333 ,0.0024667,-0.0302667,0.0191333,-0.0184333,-0.0016333,-0.0011333,0.0200333,0.0473,0.0057333,0.0089,-0.0146,0.0023667,-0.0271667,-0.0102667,0.0168,0.0015333,0.0109,-0.0101667,-0.0134667,0.0059667,-0.0016667,-0.0039,2e-04
Western_Hunter_Gatherer:ITA_Villabruna,0.0107,0.01 13,0.0493,0.057,0.0508,0.0218,0.0086,0.0156,0.0452 ,0.0099,-0.01,-0.0108,0.0114,-0.0073,0.0398,0.0508,6e-04,0.0043,-0.0067,0.0428,0.0802,0.0087,-0.0392,-0.1357,0.0161
Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant:Levant_PPNC,0.0059,0.01 66,-0.0061,-0.0467,0.0093,-0.0258,-0.0059,-0.0078,0.038,0.0208,0.004,-0.0088,0.022,-2e-04,-0.011,0.0064,-7e-04,-0.0061,-0.0108,0.0099,-0.008,0.0082,0.0024,0.0025,-0.0016
Satsurblia_Cluster:GEO_CHG,0.008,0.0101,-0.0221,-0.001,-0.028,0.0074,0.0106,-8e-04,-0.0627,-0.041,-0.0039,0.016,-0.0369,0.0032,0.0196,-0.0247,0.0183,-0.0106,-0.0177,0.0278,0.0271,-0.0057,0.0053,-0.0214,-0.0017
Iran_Pastoral_Neolithic:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.00378,0 .00654,-0.04112,0.00146,-0.03986,0.00844,0.00728,-0.00052,-0.04036,-0.02986,-0.00174,-0.00108,0.00302,-0.00456,0.02332,0.04234,-0.00416,0.00542,0.01086,-0.02672,0.00686,-0.02332,-0.00898,-0.03264,0.01856
Ancient_North_America:USA_Ancient_Beringian,0.0038 ,-0.03005,0.02315,0.0251,-0.02885,-0.00745,-0.0517,-0.0653,-0.0101,-0.012,0.00495,-0.00655,0.00655,-0.01025,-0.0067,0.0034,0.00155,0.0094,0.0024,0.01115,-0.00475,0.0048,0.00585,0.0034,-0.00055
Ancient_Siberia:RUS_Tyumen_HG,0.0091,-0.0059,0.0266,0.0626,-0.0296,0.0161,-0.0208,-0.0238,-0.0172,-0.0497,0.0173,-0.008,0.0179,-0.0564,0.0211,0.0112,-0.012,-0.0038,-0.0035,0.0011,-0.0206,0.0095,0.02,0.0081,-0.0109
Ancient_Central_America:BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP,0.0 0446,-0.03048,0.03198,0.0305,-0.03758,-0.00632,-0.12112,-0.14734,-0.00666,-0.01012,0.00138,-0.00218,0.00028,0.0127,-0.00484,0.00486,0.00498,-0.001,0.00214,0.00298,-0.00084,0.00644,-0.00216,-0.0036,0.00118
Eastern_Hunter_Gatherer:RUS_Karelia_HG,0.0108667,0 .0031667,0.0344333,0.0650667,-0.0033667,0.0205,-0.0083667,-0.0101667,-0.0013,-0.0472,0.0112667,-0.0123,0.0224333,-0.0284,0.0139,0.0222667,-0.0113667,0.0025,-0.0035333,0.01,-0.006,0.0137333,0.0076,-0.0174333,-0.0086333
Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic:KEN_Pastoral_N_Elmenteit an,-0.0252167,0.0089333,-0.0073333,-0.0224833,8e-04,-0.0137333,-0.0043167,-0.00205,0.0600333,-0.0453667,-0.0037167,-0.0043,-0.00165,0.00025,0.01605,-0.0144,0.013,0.0023667,0.0081833,-0.0017333,0.0033,0.0020167,-0.0068667,-0.0029667,0.0019


Target: Spanish_Andalucia
Distance: 2.0378% / 0.02037752
52.8 Early_European_Farmer
32.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.0 Iberomaurusian
0.6 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic

Target: Spanish_Aragon
Distance: 2.3398% / 0.02339774
53.6 Early_European_Farmer
33.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
8.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Asturias
Distance: 3.3031% / 0.03303105
51.6 Early_European_Farmer
33.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
8.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
6.2 Iberomaurusian
0.8 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic

Target: Spanish_Baleares
Distance: 1.6716% / 0.01671577
55.2 Early_European_Farmer
36.2 Steppe_Pastoralist
6.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
2.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Canarias
Distance: 1.7128% / 0.01712766
48.4 Early_European_Farmer
31.2 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.0 Iberomaurusian
7.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.0 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant
0.8 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic

Target: Spanish_Cantabria
Distance: 2.3860% / 0.02385990
53.8 Early_European_Farmer
34.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.0 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
Distance: 2.1427% / 0.02142704
53.8 Early_European_Farmer
33.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.4 Iberomaurusian
0.2 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant

Target: Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
Distance: 2.2429% / 0.02242908
51.4 Early_European_Farmer
34.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
7.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.8 Iberomaurusian
1.2 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic

Target: Spanish_Cataluna
Distance: 2.0084% / 0.02008350
52.4 Early_European_Farmer
34.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.8 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Extremadura
Distance: 1.7307% / 0.01730674
50.8 Early_European_Farmer
33.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
8.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
6.0 Iberomaurusian
1.4 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant

Target: Spanish_Galicia
Distance: 1.8967% / 0.01896736
51.2 Early_European_Farmer
34.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
8.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
5.8 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_La_Rioja
Distance: 1.9589% / 0.01958876
54.8 Early_European_Farmer
28.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
13.4 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
2.2 Iberomaurusian
1.6 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant

Target: Spanish_Murcia
Distance: 1.6867% / 0.01686714
54.2 Early_European_Farmer
31.6 Steppe_Pastoralist
8.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.2 Iberomaurusian
1.0 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic
0.4 Ancient_Central_America

Target: Spanish_Navarra
Distance: 2.8594% / 0.02859411
53.0 Early_European_Farmer
33.8 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.8 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
3.2 Iberomaurusian
0.2 Pre-Pottery_Neolithic_B_Levant

Target: Spanish_Pais_Vasco
Distance: 3.2025% / 0.03202519
53.2 Early_European_Farmer
32.2 Steppe_Pastoralist
12.2 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
2.4 Iberomaurusian

Target: Spanish_Valencia
Distance: 2.0184% / 0.02018448
53.0 Early_European_Farmer
33.0 Steppe_Pastoralist
9.8 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
4.2 Iberomaurusian

Target: Portuguese
Distance: 1.8255% / 0.01825499
51.6 Early_European_Farmer
34.4 Steppe_Pastoralist
7.6 Western_Hunter_Gatherer
6.2 Iberomaurusian
0.2 Africa_Pastoral_Neolithic

Impresionante la cantidad esteparia de los portugueses y gallegos, confirma con esta calculadora, que mientras mas estes en el occidente iberico, mas habra de este componente. Los mas cazadores, ya no son los vascos, son los riojanos pero no extraña, y los mas con Agriculor europeo son los baleares.

mitalit
03-20-2020, 09:35 AM
De ahí me vendrá a mi

gixajo
03-20-2020, 09:45 AM
Llevamos 5 días y ya estoy hasta la polla del confinamiento, y eso que yo suelo ser bastante asocial y suelo estar a gusto en el modo cactus, así que la gente que no puede parar en casa, tiene que estar subiéndose por las paredes.

Defcon2
03-20-2020, 09:57 AM
Llevamos 5 días y ya estoy hasta la polla del confinamiento, y eso que yo suelo ser bastante asocial y suelo estar a gusto en el modo cactus, así que la gente que no puede parar en casa, tiene que estar subiéndose por las paredes.

Esa gente a los dos días se estarían subiéndose por las paredes, mis papás ya se estaban quejando de nosequé.

Como broma mi tío que jamás ha salido de su casa también se ha quejado del confinamiento, parece que la cuarentena forzada crea alguna necesidad o refuerza la impresión de estar encerrado.

gixajo
03-20-2020, 10:02 AM
Esa gente a los dos días se estarían subiéndose por las paredes, mis papás ya se estaban quejando de nosequé.

Como broma mi tío que jamás ha salido de su casa también se ha quejado del confinamiento, parece que la cuarentena forzada crea alguna necesidad o refuerza la impresión de estar encerrado.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PQ--IAi26U

HelloGuys
03-20-2020, 10:16 AM
Llevamos 5 días y ya estoy hasta la polla del confinamiento, y eso que yo suelo ser bastante asocial y suelo estar a gusto en el modo cactus, así que la gente que no puede parar en casa, tiene que estar subiéndose por las paredes.

El Gobierno/polis te dicen algo si te ven afuera? (Sanción/advertencia/etc) o tienen algún toque de queda?...porque acá la gente todavía puede ir a sus anchas y nadie dice ni hace nada...

gixajo
03-20-2020, 10:39 AM
El Gobierno/polis te dicen algo si te ven afuera? (Sanción/advertencia/etc) o tienen algún toque de queda?...porque acá la gente todavía puede ir a sus anchas y nadie dice ni hace nada...

Sí. A una hermana mía en un pueblo muy pequeño , salió a tirar la basura y aprovechó a sacar a mi sobrino (hijo de otra hermana, no suyo en cuya casa está pasando el confinamiento) y la ertzaintza le dijo que tenía que ir una sola persona.

A la mujer de un primo de mi madre, esta mañana, la ertzaintza le ha parado yendo a su huerta , sola, y le ha mandado para casa.

Hoy me ha dicho otra hermana, que estaba la ertzaintza dando vueltas con los coches, preguntando a la gente a donde iba y porque.

Es normal que lo hagan , porque la gente empieza a cansarse de estar en casa y empezaba a buscar truquillos para darse una vuelta, que si sacar dos veces la basura, sacar cada hora al perro dos personas diferentes , o como hizo mi hermana, aprovechar que va a tirar la basura para que mi sobrino saliera un poco de casa.

Y estoy hablando de pueblos pequeños de 100 y 1000 habitantes.

Llevan un par de días poniendo multas de 600 euros, ayer un montón de bilbaínos, como era el día del padre, aprovecharon los imbéciles de ellos a irse unos días a sus casas de veraneo a Cantabria, en cuanto volvieron los fue parando la policía y han debido poner cientos de multas.

En esos casos lo puedo entender, pero si yo voy a mi huerta, solo, a 300 metros del pueblo, no sé porque tienen que mandarme a casa, al fin y al cabo podría considerarse igual que ir al supermercado a comprar. Aunque hoy en día las huertas las tiene la gente como ocio, debería asimilarse a una forma de autoabastecimiento.

Todo esto por teléfono.

la ertzaintza es la policía autónoma vasca.

mitalit
03-20-2020, 10:40 AM
El Gobierno/polis te dicen algo si te ven afuera? (Sanción/advertencia/etc) o tienen algún toque de queda?...porque acá la gente todavía puede ir a sus anchas y nadie dice ni hace nada...

No puedes salir de casa a no ser que sea para ir a comprar al super, farmacias... o para ir a trabajar. Si te ven paseando o acompañado de una persona te pueden poner una multa

mitalit
03-20-2020, 10:42 AM
Sí. A una hermana mía en un pueblo muy pequeño , salió a tirar la basura y aprovechó a sacar a mi sobrino (hijo de otra hermana, no suyo en cuya casa está pasando el confinamiento) y la ertzaintza le dijo que tenía que ir una sola persona.

A la mujer de un primo de mi madre, esta mañana, la ertzaintza le ha parado yendo a su huerta , sola, y le ha mandado para casa.

Hoy me ha dicho otra hermana, que estaba la ertzaintza dando vueltas con los coches, preguntando a la gente a donde iba y porque.

Es normal que lo hagan , porque la gente empieza a cansarse de estar en casa y empezaba a buscar truquillos para darse una vuelta, que si sacar dos veces la basura, sacar cada hora al perro dos personas diferentes , o como hizo mi hermana, aprovechar que va a tirar la basura para que mi sobrino saliera un poco de casa.

Y estoy hablando de pueblos pequeños de 100 y 1000 habitantes.

Llevan un par de días poniendo multas de 600 euros, ayer un montón de bilbaínos, como era el día del padre, aprovecharon los imbéciles de ellos a irse unos días a sus casas de veraneo a Cantabria, en cuanto volvieron los fue parando la policía y han debido poner cientos de multas.

En esos casos lo puedo entender, pero si yo voy a mi huerta, solo, a 300 metros del pueblo, no sé porque tienen que mandarme a casa, al fin y al cabo podría considerarse igual que ir al supermercado a comprar. Aunque hoy en día las huertas las tiene la gente como ocio, debería asimilarse a una forma de autoabastecimiento.

Todo esto por teléfono.

la ertzaintza es la policía autónoma vasca.

Y si vas a cuidarla? Yo creo que esta permitido ir a cuidar la huerta, aunque no este cotizando sigue siendo un trabajo. Si tienes ganado supongo que te tienen que dejar ir si o si

gixajo
03-20-2020, 10:56 AM
Y si vas a cuidarla? Yo creo que esta permitido ir a cuidar la huerta, aunque no este cotizando sigue siendo un trabajo. Si tienes ganado supongo que te tienen que dejar ir si o si

Pues va a ser que no y que no.

Acabo de salir a fumar un cigarrillo a la terraza, oigo como un motor en la calle y mira lo que era, hace dos minutos :D

https://i.imgur.com/IUVH65y.png

Lo estoy oyendo de nuevo, ha vuelto... :picard1:

No creo que lo que hace sirva para absolutamente nada, pero supongo que será para que la gente se piense que están haciendo algo.

mitalit
03-20-2020, 11:01 AM
repetido

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:04 AM
Nosotros tenemos varias finquitas con árboles y cosas que suelo cuidar yo, a mí esas cosas a pequeña escala me gustan , y mi padre cuando tenía 70 años empezó a poner huerta para entretenerse, y según va cumpliendo más años soy yo el que más la está cuidando, y si no vamos es porque ahora mismo tampoco hay gran cosa que hacer, y lo que hay que hacer puede esperar.

Pero como esto se alargue mes y pico ya pueden decir misa, porque este año por si acaso estamos poniendo más cosas por si más adelante hay desabastecimiento y yo voy a ir aunque me tenga que vestir de ninja :ninja

mitalit
03-20-2020, 11:08 AM
Si, ya vi que tenias una planta muy bonita.

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:17 AM
Si, ya vi que tenias una planta muy bonita.

¿Qué planta?

Si te refieres a una que sale en la foto de mi mano, era del verano pasado, y a la semana de hacerle la foto la corté, era macho.:p

Solo planto porque me gusta, no fumo porros ni tomo drogas desde que cumplí 21 años, de hecho ni bebo habitualmente.

Soy un tipo sano, pero muchos alrededor de mí no, y para mí regalar lo que produce esa planta es lo mismo que regalar unos tomates o unos calabacines.:)

mitalit
03-20-2020, 11:27 AM
Yo puntualmente si, pero igual 1 vez al mes y con amigos

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:36 AM
Yo puntualmente si, pero igual 1 vez al mes y con amigos

Aquí fuma todo el mundo,y de cualquier edad, es algo que yo veo tan normal como beber. Si sabes como usarlo y sabes medirte, exactamente igual que el alcohol.

mitalit
03-20-2020, 11:40 AM
Aquí fuma todo el mundo,y de cualquier edad, es algo que yo veo tan normal como beber. Si sabes como usarlo y sabes medirte, exactamente igual que el alcohol.

El alcohol es mas peligroso, en mi caso siempre que salgo de fiesta tengo la mala costumbre de beber mucho. Tampoco es que salga mucho de fiesta, pero sobre todo en verano que se sale bastante mas creo que igual me paso.

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:41 AM
Los irlandeses suelen dividirse entre bebedores de Guinness o de Kilkenny.

¿Tú de cuál eres más?

:rolleyes:

mitalit
03-20-2020, 11:44 AM
De Guinness, aunque mientras este fría tampoco soy muy exquisito

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:50 AM
El alcohol es mas peligroso, en mi caso siempre que salgo de fiesta tengo la mala costumbre de beber mucho. Tampoco es que salga mucho de fiesta, pero sobre todo en verano que se sale bastante mas creo que igual me paso.

Yo de joven bebía mucho, hace unos años conseguí darme cuenta de que realmente no me gusta beber, ni sus efectos .

Al principio la gente intenta hacerte beber, pero llegado un momento dejan de insistir. Al principio me daba hasta vergüenza no beber, y en ocasiones todavía me la da, así que me pido un zurito para no ser demasiado Calamardo, y así dejan de insistirte. Tengo tan baja tolerancia al alcohol ahora mismo, que con dos zuritos ya estoy levantando una ceja...:picard1:

gixajo
03-20-2020, 11:51 AM
De Guinness, aunque mientras este fría tampoco soy muy exquisito

Estás reconociendo implícitamente que eres irlandés!!!

Defcon2
03-20-2020, 12:48 PM
Tengo la versión gratuita tipo Excel, Apache Open Office pero tendré que aprender a usarlo. Qué hojas de cálculo queréis?

Rocinante
03-20-2020, 12:59 PM
Tengo la versión gratuita tipo Excel, Apache Open Office pero tendré que aprender a usarlo. Qué hojas de cálculo queréis?

Suena interesante, pero repitemelo en cristiano porfi.

Defcon2
03-20-2020, 01:01 PM
Suena interesante, pero repitemelo en cristiano porfi.

Es para tener los datos genéticos de los miembros juntitos en un mismo lugar, esperaba la respuesta de Xajo ya que él tuvo la idea.

Rocinante
03-20-2020, 01:18 PM
Es para tener los datos genéticos de los miembros juntitos en un mismo lugar, esperaba la respuesta de Xajo ya que él tuvo la idea.

Fenomenal. Ya hacia falta eso, pues somos ya 4 con G25 no? Faltaria que alnorte, samario y erronkarri, que se han hecho el test, se sacasen el G25.

Defcon2
03-20-2020, 01:21 PM
Fenomenal. Ya hacia falta eso, pues somos ya 4 con G25 no? Faltaria que alnorte, samario y erronkarri, que se han hecho el test, se sacasen el G25.

No sólo G25 sino también las calculadoras Gedmatch, etc.

Veo que se puede hacer gráficos también, va estar chuli pero necesito saber exprimirlo.

Rocinante
03-20-2020, 01:23 PM
No sólo G25 sino también las calculadoras Gedmatch, etc.

Veo que se puede hacer gráficos también, va estar chuli pero necesito saber exprimirlo.

Bueno, con el gedmatch se puede jugar tambien, seria buen comienzo, aunque esto del G25 es una puta droga y ademas que atina como un indio del Amazonas con una cerbatana.

gixajo
03-20-2020, 02:40 PM
Tengo la versión gratuita tipo Excel, Apache Open Office pero tendré que aprender a usarlo. Qué hojas de cálculo queréis?

Yo uso Apache también, puedes descargarte extensiones gratuitas para que los archivos del Apache y los del Micorosoft office sean más compatibles.

De hecho llevo muchos años usando el Apache y otros similares de código abierto y gratuitos, es un poco básico y a veces cambia formatos si abres archivos de otros programas, pero está bastante bien.

A mí el hacer las tablas en sí no me importa, lo que me da una pereza enorme es ir buscando todos los datos, si quieres podemos ponernos de acuerdo en qué datos dar, y te mandamos esos datos a tu privado (o al de quien sea) para que no haya que buscar por todo el foro los resultados, al menos de los que somos habituales estos días. De los no habituales habrá que ir buscando, a mí si me decís niks de miembros que recordéis que hayan posteado resultados, puedo buscar todos los resultados de esa persona que pueda.

Pero poco a poco, tampoco tenemos que hacerlo todo de golpe.