Can i pass in Iberia and Italy?

[Aileron]

What do you think?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?311873-Classy-me-please

[Celestia]

Eh not really
Maybe Italian atypically?

[mitalit]

Yes, you look like the politician xavier domenech
https://www.elindependiente.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Xavier-Domenech-1440x808.jpg

[Aileron]

Thanks

[Aileron]

more?

[Duffmannn]

Do not think so

[Aileron]

Thanks

[Samnium]

You can pass as atypical italian imo.

[Cristiano viejo]

Not in Spain.

[Aileron]

Not in Spain.

Where can i pass your opinion?

[Aileron]

You can pass as atypical italian imo.

Which part of Italy?

[Cristiano viejo]

Where can i pass your opinion?

Russia, Romania, Hungary.

[Jacques de Imbelloni]

You look like a blond sirian.

[Lucazk9]

Both, you can pass in any part of Europe actually simply as a white guy.I mean , no one will look at you as you are a stranger , immigrant or an alien..

[Aileron]

Thanks

[happycow]

You have an interesting look. HAve you done a DNA test? :)

[alnortedelsur]

Probably better in Italy than in Spain, NOT because of being "too light" for an Iberian (many Iberians could be as light as you) but because of your features that are too alien for Iberia.

[Aileron]

You have an interesting look. HAve you done a DNA test? :)

No my friend but planning to do one

[Aileron]

Probably better in Italy than in Spain, NOT because of being "too light" for an Iberian (many Iberians could be as light as you) but because of your features that are too alien for Iberia.

Thanks

[happycow]

No my friend but planning to do one

Nice looking forward to seeing the results! :cool:

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Not really, you look very east shifted in facial features.

Could pass very well in Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine and Russia.

[Tauromachos]

Northern Italy i would say yeah

[Gondor]

IMO everywhere in Europe, plenty of ANE/nordic mix in Europe, think about all the turanid influence, even much more evident than in you. Of course more common in Balkans and NE Europe than in the West or South Euro.

[chociprasa]

Nope, maybe as a German influenced North Italian.

[Aileron]

Thanks

[Aileron]

Not really, you look very east shifted in facial features.

Could pass very well in Romania, Moldavia, Ukraine and Russia.

Can i pass in Brazil?

[Tenma de Pegasus]

Can i pass in Brazil?

Yes, its easy to pass here. Many iberians and north italians with some 10-20% starts to resemble some east phenotypes from Turkey, Balkans, Ukraine, Romania ans even Jordania or Israel. Genetic is a lottery.

[Aileron]

Yes, its easy to pass here. Many iberians and north italians with some 10-20% starts to resemble some east phenotypes from Turkey, Balkans, Ukraine, Romania ans even Jordania or Israel. Genetic is a lottery.

Cool

[Gota_type_]

Your cheekbones and nose (in the 3º picture your nose looks caucasian-levantine in the shape) points out that you are an Eastern European. If I saw you in the street I would say Ukranian or Bielorussia or some places like that. You must be like that blond turk that he is an actor that he descend from a Slovenian family. You must have relatively some ancestors from Eastern Europe (many Europeans went to Turkey historically for wars, or settlement). Or maybe your ancestors were slaves taken from some European country to be sold in Turkey for the Ottomans. For example, several hundred thousands of Europeans were taken as slaves during the XVI-XVIII centuries and taken to Argel.

[Aileron]

Your cheekbones and nose (in the 3º picture your nose looks caucasian-levantine in the shape) points out that you are an Eastern European. If I saw you in the street I would say Ukranian or Bielorussia or some places like that. You must be like that blond turk that he is an actor that he descend from a Slovenian family. You must have relatively some ancestors from Eastern Europe (many Europeans went to Turkey historically for wars, or settlement). Or maybe your ancestors were slaves taken from some European country to be sold in Turkey for the Ottomans. For example, several hundred thousands of Europeans were taken as slaves during the XVI-XVIII centuries and taken to Argel.

Lol i dont have any Euro ancestry, my family is descendant from Nomadic Turks called Yörüks my friend so i am probably more Turkic in genetics compared to avarage in Turkey

[Gota_type_]

Lol i dont have any Euro ancestry, my family is descendant from Nomadic Turks called Yörüks my friend so i am probably more Turkic in genetics compared to avarage in Turkey

Nomadic.... do you know what this word means?? Can you trace 100% of your ancestry for the last 500 years? Did you know that the ottomans were the ones that slaved hundred of thousands of Europeans and took them to Argel or Constantinopla?

And why do you put a thumbs down when I am giving you my opinion? You dont like to know the hypothesis of possible descending from European slaves? If you descend from that tribe, why 90% of them dont look like you (most probably)? You are an outsider even in your tribe, so I guess you have a brain to figure out that you might have some foreign ancestry. In any case, despite your Eastern European looks you are still a turk, an enemy of Europe. You are a foreigner and an outsider here in any case. We would not like your kind here at all, despite your Eastern European looks.


And by the way, in this picture (which is the closer one), you look a depigmented levantine. Some sort of armenian-turk-eastern European mix:

https://resmim.net/f/IW2OKk.jpg

Your overall look and specially the nose look non-European in this picture. Or somehow non-european.

[Wolfdog]

Lol i dont have any Euro ancestry, my family is descendant from Nomadic Turks called Yörüks my friend so i am probably more Turkic in genetics compared to avarage in Turkey

So, your origin = Yoruk nomads?

Interesting... As far as I know Yoruks = most direct descendants of Central Asian nomads...

Can I re-post your pics to another forum ( East European "Balto-Slavica"), please?
As an example of person having this kind of origin?

[Kivan]

Nomadic.... do you know what this word means?? Can you trace 100% of your ancestry for the last 500 years? Did you know that the ottomans were the ones that slaved hundred of thousands of Europeans and took them to Argel or Constantinopla?

And why do you put a thumbs down when I am giving you my opinion? You dont like to know the hypothesis of possible descending from European slaves? If you descend from that tribe, why 90% of them dont look like you (most probably)? You are an outsider even in your tribe, so I guess you have a brain to figure out that you might have some foreign ancestry. In any case, despite your Eastern European looks you are still a turk, an enemy of Europe. You are a foreigner and an outsider here in any case. We would not like your kind here at all, despite your Eastern European looks.


And by the way, in this picture (which is the closer one), you look a depigmented levantine. Some sort of armenian-turk-eastern European mix:

Your overall look and specially the nose look non-European in this picture. Or somehow non-european.

Lmao. This guy looks more white than 98% of your "Nordic Spaniards"

[Aileron]

wtf lol

[Aileron]

Nomadic.... do you know what this word means?? Can you trace 100% of your ancestry for the last 500 years? Did you know that the ottomans were the ones that slaved hundred of thousands of Europeans and took them to Argel or Constantinopla?

And why do you put a thumbs down when I am giving you my opinion? You dont like to know the hypothesis of possible descending from European slaves? If you descend from that tribe, why 90% of them dont look like you (most probably)? You are an outsider even in your tribe, so I guess you have a brain to figure out that you might have some foreign ancestry. In any case, despite your Eastern European looks you are still a turk, an enemy of Europe. You are a foreigner and an outsider here in any case. We would not like your kind here at all, despite your Eastern European looks.


And by the way, in this picture (which is the closer one), you look a depigmented levantine. Some sort of armenian-turk-eastern European mix:



Your overall look and specially the nose look non-European in this picture. Or somehow non-european.

Lol ı am pretty sure blond Spaniards are not native as you guys are mediternean wogs?
Does this sound right?

[Aileron]

So, your origin = Yoruk nomads?

Interesting... As far as I know Yoruks = most direct descendants of Central Asian nomads...

Can I re-post your pics to another forum ( East European "Balto-Slavica"), please?
As an example of person having this kind of origin?

you can..

[Sora]

Not sure but yes, you probably can. Also you look lighter than most of Turkey(I DON'T claim Turks are dark but blond/red hair and coloured eyes are rare compared to South European countries)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ba/fc/b9/bafcb965cdc3b6f437fa7bdcb4ed14fe.jpg

[Kyp]

So, your origin = Yoruk nomads?

Interesting... As far as I know Yoruks = most direct descendants of Central Asian nomads...

Can I re-post your pics to another forum ( East European "Balto-Slavica"), please?
As an example of person having this kind of origin?

it's not always that easy. They are still are very mixed with Western Anatolians as strong Med input shows. In my opinion there is even some minor Gallic influence in some villages/regions in Western Turkey.

[Kivan]

Not sure but yes, you probably can. Also you look lighter than most of Turkey(I DON'T claim Turks are dark but blond/red hair and coloured eyes are rare compared to South European countries)


Data in these maps are innacurate and lack of proper sources.
Blonde hair like the OP is rare but light brown is not uncommon. Light eyes are also not rare in most regions of the country, in my opinion.

[Kivan]

On topic,

I don't know about Italy but you wouldn't pass well in Spain. Your look would be very unusual, OP.
I've been to Spain (Barcelona), btw.

[Cristiano viejo]

Lmao. This guy looks more white than 98% of your "Nordic Spaniards"

this guy looks clearly asian admixed (what he is actually), so no, he can not look whiter than whites.

[Gota_type_]

Lmao. This guy looks more white than 98% of your "Nordic Spaniards"

This turk looks eastern European-armenian mix. That is not even western European. And he is obviously no more white because he is blond, in this case this person would be whiter than 99% of Europeans when it is clearly seen that he is a non-white:
https://s.hs-data.com/picmon/21/37w2_5d2Y4r_l.jpg

Most Spaniards are whiter than this norwegian mutt. And most Spaniards are whiter than this turk in this thread. Being blonde means very little in term of whiteness. It is facial features the most important. If we paint the turk with dark brown hair, he would look like a normal turk-armenian-ukranian mix. So, very little "white" in any aspect.

This average brunette Spaniard looks whiter than the turk-armenoid-levantine from this thread:
http://img2.rtve.es/v/5417375?w=1600&preview=1571666727054.jpg

And I am not even taking nordic Spaniards into consideration. Just average Spaniards.



Lol ı am pretty sure blond Spaniards are not native as you guys are mediternean wogs?
Does this sound right?

Blond Spaniards are as native to Spain as any other Spaniards. We never went to kidnap people from northern Europe or any other countries to sell them as slaves and use them to mix with them, as the turks and other muslims did with Europeans. So, the blond turk is probably descended from some slavic concubine, slave, or something like that. And in any case he still does not look western European at all.


On topic,
I don't know about Italy but you wouldn't pass well in Spain. Your look would be very unusual, OP.
I've been to Spain (Barcelona), btw.

He would not pass in Spain for being asian shifted (cheeks, nose, overall skull proportions), not because he is blond. He is less white than most Spaniard brunettes if we consider being white to being western European in looks. And "I have been in Barcelona" LOL to say that he will not pass in Spain. Barcelona has hundred of thousands of north-africans, romanians, eastern europeans, and from all over the world. It is the city that can be considered as less useful to represent Spaniards.


Again don´t mistake being blond with being whiter or less whiter (and I am blond-blue eyed by the way). It is facial features (as you can see with the Haaland example). And this turk is just a blond euro-asian mix.

[Samnium]

Lmao. This guy looks more white than 98% of your "Nordic Spaniards"

For you looking more white = having lighter pigmentation compared to most Europeans. I guess that these are more white than anyone including me :

https://afroculture.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/20_Malaita_-_Lau_blond_girl_1.jpg

And by the way he told me on my classification thread that I would pass better in Turkey than he does because I've darker hair (despite having been classified as N.Atlantid, N.Pontid, Norid + some Med several times), you can't be more anthrotard than that. All the dark haired NW Euros or French are passable as Turks then.

You're also a champion to cherry-pick light turks whereas the average is darker than any southern euro country :laugh: .

[Aileron]

thanks for feedbacks

[kevinmac]

He can pass almost anywhere in europe!

[Dna8]

Best zone of passage is outside of Europe, in my perception.

[Dna8]

Best zone of passage is outside of Europe, in my perception.

But to answer your founding question:

Yes. Atypically.

[Aileron]

Thanks

[kalach]

Aga sende turan karışmış İskit tipi var. Dediğin milletler en tipsiz ve gracile beyazlarin çıktığı milletler, o yüzden dahil olmak gibi bı amacın olmasın. Pörtlek gözlü, ektomorf 170 bi gracile med olmaktansa avrasyali bı iskit olmayı tercih ederdim şahsen. Cristiano Vagina gibi göt oğlanlarına malzeme verme.

[Wolfdog]

I could be wrong,
but
IMO
your phenotype could be started from Andronovo culture ( Scythins and Sarmatians of ancient Eurasian steppes )

Bashkir people have it highest.
And also modern Germans, Dutch and Danes are closely related to this kind of origin...

http://newskif.su/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/67-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2-%D0%9C%D0%9C-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D 1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D 0%B8-%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BC.jpeg
http://newskif.su/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/61-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2-%D0%9C%D0%9C-%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%86%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C-%D0%A1%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%80-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D 1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2%D0%B0.jpeg
https://cs7.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2018/01/05/7/1515147990170353014.jpg

[Aileron]

Aga sende turan karışmış İskit tipi var. Dediğin milletler en tipsiz ve gracile beyazlarin çıktığı milletler, o yüzden dahil olmak gibi bı amacın olmasın. Pörtlek gözlü, ektomorf 170 bi gracile med olmaktansa avrasyali bı iskit olmayı tercih ederdim şahsen. Cristiano Vagina gibi göt oğlanlarına malzeme verme.
Haklısın dostum

[Aileron]

I could be wrong,
but
IMO
your phenotype could be started from Andronovo culture ( Scythins and Sarmatians of ancient Eurasian steppes )

Bashkir people have it highest.
And also modern Germans, Dutch and Danes are closely related to this kind of origin...

http://newskif.su/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/67-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2-%D0%9C%D0%9C-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D 1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D0%B8-%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%BE%D1%81%D1%82%D 0%B8-%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D0%BE%D0%B2-%D0%BF%D0%BE-%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B0%D0%BC.jpeg
http://newskif.su/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/61-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2-%D0%9C%D0%9C-%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D1%84%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%B9-%D1%86%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%8C-%D0%A1%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BB%D1%83%D1%80-%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D 1%83%D0%BA%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F-%D0%93%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BE%D 0%B2%D0%B0.jpeg
https://cs7.pikabu.ru/post_img/big/2018/01/05/7/1515147990170353014.jpg

Thanks

[Voskos]

Russia-Ukraine.

[Aileron]

Russia-Ukraine.

Because of steppe

[archangel]

Maybe in Northern İberia

[Cristiano viejo]

Maybe in Northern İberia

Northern Iberia aka Northern Spain, is not different than the rest of Spain.
You pass infinitely better than him, if you are that of your avatar.

[Aileron]

Thanks for answers

[Aileron]

Bumpish

[Corded]

maybe Italy but atypical.
too eastern for Iberia.

[Aileron]

maybe Italy but atypical.
too eastern for Iberia.

Thanks

[Gota_type_]

You can´t pass in Greece, specially in the border.

[Aileron]

You can´t pass in Greece, specially in the border.

Thanks

[Aileron]

bump