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Ahaddad
02-11-2020, 09:30 PM
PERSON OF 100% Lebanese origin


What mean first populations sharing? Some results are correct in first or second populations sharing but sometimes give close to very strange populations for example:


PuntDnal
1-Lebanese Muslim-5,87
2-Armenian-6,33
3-Lebanese Christian-6,45
4-Lebanese Druze-6,58
5-Assyrian-7,37
6-Azerbaijani-8,18
7-Samaritan-8,89
8-Iranian-8,96
9-Turkish-9,13
10-Jordanian-10,26
11-Syrian-10,32
12-Abkhazian-12,79
13-Sephardic Jewish-12,93


EUROGENES

1-Lebanese Muslim-3,78
2-Kurdish Jewish-5,22
3-Syrian-6,29
4-Iranian Jewish-7,11
5-Assyrian-8,83
6-Lebanese Druze-8,89
7-Armenian-9,37
8-Kurdish-10,42
9-Turkish-10,49
10-Lebanese Christian-11,01
11-Azeri-11,93
12-Samaritan-12,24
13-Jordanian-13,41
14-Palestinian-14,56
15-Georgian Jewish-14,65


I don’t understand what mean for example this case is from a Lebanese Muslim with no admix from 200 years, if see these oracles mean that it’s more close to Azeri, Abkhazian to other Levantine people? Or more closer to Armenian, Turkish and Kurdish than to other Lebanese like Christian or Druze. For me this genetic distance in single population sharing give some false results, because o think they just calcule numbers of
Difference.

Ahaddad
02-11-2020, 11:17 PM
PERSON OF 100% Lebanese origin


What mean first populations sharing? Some results are correct in first or second populations sharing but sometimes give close to very strange populations for example:


PuntDnal
1-Lebanese Muslim-5,87
2-Armenian-6,33
3-Lebanese Christian-6,45
4-Lebanese Druze-6,58
5-Assyrian-7,37
6-Azerbaijani-8,18
7-Samaritan-8,89
8-Iranian-8,96
9-Turkish-9,13
10-Jordanian-10,26
11-Syrian-10,32
12-Abkhazian-12,79
13-Sephardic Jewish-12,93


EUROGENES

1-Lebanese Muslim-3,78
2-Kurdish Jewish-5,22
3-Syrian-6,29
4-Iranian Jewish-7,11
5-Assyrian-8,83
6-Lebanese Druze-8,89
7-Armenian-9,37
8-Kurdish-10,42
9-Turkish-10,49
10-Lebanese Christian-11,01
11-Azeri-11,93
12-Samaritan-12,24
13-Jordanian-13,41
14-Palestinian-14,56
15-Georgian Jewish-14,65


I don’t understand what mean for example this case is from a Lebanese Muslim with no admix from 200 years, if see these oracles mean that it’s more close to Azeri, Abkhazian to other Levantine people? Or more closer to Armenian, Turkish and Kurdish than to other Lebanese like Christian or Druze. For me this genetic distance in single population sharing give some false results, because o think they just calcule numbers of
Difference.


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Ahaddad
02-12-2020, 11:44 AM
Anyone can help me please ?

Avicenna
02-12-2020, 12:24 PM
Don't take oracles too seriously man .

JamesBond007
02-12-2020, 12:27 PM
Don't take oracles too seriously man .

I don't even pay attention to Oracles as I am not an extreme mutt so I am mixed Germanic and thus close enough to Dutch to pass as Dutch. Oracles seem like shit to me and I don't even pay attention to Eurogenes G25 nmonte type breakdowns as G25 was meant for PCA plotting. GEDmatch is kind of crazy as only a handful of calculators ,at best, are 'good' or decent and the whole thing seems outdated to me.

Nomansman
02-12-2020, 12:31 PM
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Thats a kurdish JEW. THeyre kind of different from other kurds and kind of closer to levant people.

I seen some kind of diversity between lebbos now and theres indeed a cluster of lebbos, which i didnt think there were. Some lebbos are kind of more nw asian shifted, whole others more arabian shifted. The lebbo muslim here just seems rather too west asian shifted compared to the levantine references here, but it can be different if you pick up other levantine references, that can turn out more similiar to OP.

So in conclusion: THis lebbo sample is too west asian shifted for the levantine samples and hence why as close to the west asians as to the levantines. Pretty sure there are lebbo muslims closer to the levantine references.

Avicenna
02-12-2020, 12:33 PM
I don't even pay attention to Oracles as I am not an extreme mutt so I am mixed Germanic and thus close enough to Dutch to pass as Dutch. Oracles seem like shit to me and I don't even pay attention to Eurogenes G25 nmonte type breakdowns as G25 was meant for PCA plotting. GEDmatch is kind of crazy as only a handful of calculators ,at best, are 'good' or decent and the whole thing seems outdated to me.

I don't know why people are taking all these as actual scientific methods . You really think it's that accessible for everyone so easily ? If it was so accurate then you would've seen high end academics using these methods in their papers . Especially oracles , which in my opinion can cause people have doubts about themselves for no goddamn reason .

Ahaddad
02-12-2020, 01:51 PM
Thats a kurdish JEW. THeyre kind of different from other kurds and kind of closer to levant people.

I seen some kind of diversity between lebbos now and theres indeed a cluster of lebbos, which i didnt think there were. Some lebbos are kind of more nw asian shifted, whole others more arabian shifted. The lebbo muslim here just seems rather too west asian shifted compared to the levantine references here, but it can be different if you pick up other levantine references, that can turn out more similiar to OP.

So in conclusion: THis lebbo sample is too west asian shifted for the levantine samples and hence why as close to the west asians as to the levantines. Pretty sure there are lebbo muslims closer to the levantine references.


You are correct, but when you say more Arabs I don’t understand because some are more East med not Arab for example, arab to me is Yemeni and Saudi, but yes have more Lebanese linked to Arabs and Christians in general more linked to south Europeans like south Italian and Greek, but west Asians also have strongly arab admixture in dna. But what put the Lebanese close to Azeri, Abkhazian or Armenian in oracle, don’t mean that they are similar right ?