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Dalriada
03-20-2009, 07:12 PM
English National Resistance: www.enresist.com

Stumbled across this site earlier today, rather impressed with their enthusiasm and style, somewhat like the 'Autonomous Nationalist' groups found on the continent, but with a very English/British edge.

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One can only hope their style attracts a few young Britons in their area who would otherwise have not been quite as interested in Nationalist activism.

The Lawspeaker
03-21-2009, 12:08 PM
I think that they are a bit too radical since and too much just "White Nationalist" since they only look at mixed couples and whiteness - but if resistance groups should speak about "finding back ones English identity and say no to multiculturalism" and encourage people to rise up it could be a success.
We'll need to have resistance groups (less radical but very activist) all over Europe.
Every government needs a counter movement, needs opposition: both in parliament and on the street.

So a group needs to be more mainstream, willing to debate, willing to actively resist and needs to win the hearts and minds of a wider public- rather then looking like far right wing anarchists.

Beorn
04-17-2009, 02:16 AM
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Freomęg
04-17-2009, 09:41 AM
Just browsed their site. I think their hearts are in the right place and I support their general cause, but some of the approaches are a little too abrasive for me. For example: "our bloodline has been poisoned (well actually, it was mis-spelt 'posioned', which incidentally does nothing to help people's perception of nationalists)" - 'Poisoned' is a terrible word to use and doesn't convey the right sentiment, in my opinion.

That said, I've no doubt that there will be racial conflicts in the near future, and you can be sure that the Muslim communities will stand together, drawing their lines. So it's good to see a pro-active group who are ready to stand together come such a situation.

Aryannationalist
07-28-2009, 11:12 AM
http://sites.google.com/site/aryannationalist/Home

THEY ARE ... fellow(young white)Comrade/s ... SO WE SUPPORT! 88.

Phlegethon
07-28-2009, 11:25 AM
Yawn!

Berrocscir
07-29-2009, 04:26 PM
I'd rather live next door to one of this lot than some ASBO wearing wigger playing urban music with that awful 'Pinky & Perky' style vocal any day.

Without sounding patronising, youth orientatied political groups are always going to use inflamatory laguage and want to use a radical chic, they want to sound dangerous - from groups like Class War on the Left to B&H on the Right. ENR are just continuing this tradition.

TheWingedHussar
08-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Well, as an actual yoof, I think I'll pass. And so too, will most of my peers, I believe. I think the gentleman in the hooded top would be colloquially referenced too as a Pikey, and officially a vandal. I think Lawspeaker is speaking the most sense here.

There will of course be some school drop-outs from poor working class backgrounds who have smoked from age 3 and cannot spell who will be delighted to have something to do, but those, unfortunatley for you, are in the minority.

Beorn
08-05-2009, 10:20 PM
There will of course be some school drop-outs from poor working class backgrounds who have smoked from age 3 and cannot spell who will be delighted to have something to do, but those, unfortunatley for you, are in the minority.

Are you saying there's something wrong with being from a working class background?

Oh!...perhaps us slummers are only an education away from you bourgeoisie, enlightened individuals who have the wills and means to express yourself in civilised and well thought out manners?

I may not agree with some sentiments of the lads of the ENR, but by God their hearts and souls are in the right place.

Long live the ENR! Long live the ERA!

Germanicus
08-05-2009, 10:46 PM
I agree with Wat Tyler, at least they have sat up and decided hey enough is enough lets get out there and do something, ok it is basic stuff, but from little acorns oak trees grow.
Perhaps it will make the average Brit think a moment, instead of believing all the gunk the BBC puts on TV..........have you watched east enders lately, the the BBC expects us to believe that a islamic pakistani family would intergrate with their English neighbours is a joke.

Beorn
08-05-2009, 10:55 PM
have you watched east enders lately

I have. Have you noticed the minor insinuations towards homophobia and anti-Englishness?

I was surprised by it, tbh, as I was expecting more of an integrationist propaganda attitude to be to the fore, but the family can't be taken seriously because of the low level pokery which is attributed towards them.

In conclusion, I get the impression the Islamic family nucleus is being belittled by the Beeb.

TheWingedHussar
08-05-2009, 11:17 PM
Are you saying there's something wrong with being from a working class background?

On the contrary, my family were largely working class (were, because most of them are now dead). Being working class is fine, but being a thug is not.



Oh!...perhaps us slummers are only an education away from you bourgeoisie, enlightened individuals who have the wills and means to express yourself in civilised and well thought out manners?

If I'm not mistaken, free education is provided to everyone in this country, and has been for more than a century. People can blame nobody else if they choose not to make the most of it.

The working classes are small in this country in comparison to the middle classes -hence why groups such as this are a minority and the BNP got in because none of the toffs decided to vote.

Germanicus
08-05-2009, 11:25 PM
On the contrary, my family were largely working class (were, because most of them are now dead). Being working class is fine, but being a thug is not.



If I'm not mistaken, free education is provided to everyone in this country, and has been for more than a century. People can blame nobody else if they choose not to make the most of it.

The working classes are small in this country in comparison to the middle classes -hence why groups such as this are a minority and the BNP got in because none of the toffs decided to vote.

Thats an interesting point, however, i think they got in because like myself they voted BNP to give the major parties a kick up the arse and show them the joe public want a change in policies towards immigration, and are going to vote for it, like i did.

Beorn
08-05-2009, 11:30 PM
On the contrary, my family were largely working class (were, because most of them are now dead). Being working class is fine, but being a thug is not.

Very good.

Start respecting your ancestors backgrounds and begin the hard, dirty fight back then.


If I'm not mistaken, free education is provided to everyone in this country, and has been for more than a century. People can blame nobody else if they choose not to make the most of it.

The blame is largely visible for all to see, being that education runs parallel to what one is taught and what one is capable of wanting to understand.

There is a literal chasm between the education which is "free" and that which is bought from private and higher placed schools.


The working classes are small in this country in comparison to the middle classes

Hmm! I don't think the classes have witnessed a shift in numbers as such, but merely accounted for the members of society which mobilised and moved from 'upper-lower class' to 'lower-middle class'

The short-lived economic boom of the eighties and nineties made sure that the distinctive line between the two classes became blurred to easily formulate a plan for a social and cultural decline.


hence why groups such as this are a minority and the BNP got in because none of the toffs decided to vote.

"Toffs" being the middle-middle class upwards who have realised the situation which we live in, but actually revelled in the delights of what has been created.

Give it to the next elections; when the demographics of this land has made an even more marked "improvement" upon our once strong class delineations, and we'll see how the BNP fare.

Osweo
08-06-2009, 12:03 AM
I share some of the distaste aired about image, but there is a VAST potential constituency out there, amongst disaffected young scallies. I don't know how to get them on board, given the depths to which they've sank, but it's worth some effort. I only wish that they'd accept the leadership of those with the sense and style to put them on the right track... I'm Working Class, but can barely speak to most of my fellows who've not had my breaks. This extreme fracturing of society is one of the most horrific things going on at the moment. There should be fluidity between social groups, but we just don't even know each other any more. :(

Beorn
08-06-2009, 12:09 AM
There should be fluidity between social groups, but we just don't even know each other any more. :(

There will be "fluidity" between the classes when a certain class comes crashing to the reality of what is going on.

Who saw that protest at that Vestas place? You only need to listen to the protesters and regard what outside protesters that turned up as support, to recognise who and what is the current "working man's" enemy.

Having lived amongst the middle class for most of my childhood, and having suffered first hand their 'right on' attitudes, I say rock on Tommy.

Osweo
08-06-2009, 12:37 AM
Who saw that protest at that Vestas place? You only need to listen to the protesters and regard what outside protesters that turned up as support, to recognise who and what is the current "working man's" enemy.
Er? Enlighten me, I don't watch television any more!

Having lived amongst the middle class for most of my childhood, and having suffered first hand their 'right on' attitudes, I say rock on Tommy.
You're too antagonistic. Don't mix class struggle into the national one. I have lived with Soviet people, and can see the great benefits of having shot all the bastards decades ago, but there are some dangerous lackings there too. The real middle class of shopkeepers and small tradesmen are vital to a nation, but they're almost extinct in England now.

Beorn
08-06-2009, 12:41 AM
Er? Enlighten me, I don't watch television any more!


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It's been going on for some weeks now, but each protest is attended by a strong "anti-fascist", pro-socialist(incorrect) members.



P.S (rep point)....right track. ;)

Beorn
09-05-2009, 06:18 PM
Q. For how long has the ENR existed and what made you and your colleagues form the ENR?

A. The main people behind ENR have been working on setting it up since June 2008 but it was uncovered to the general public in march 2009. The reasons we set up ENR was due mainly to 2 things –
1) the stagnation of the “old” movement which is a depressing spectacle of infighting, rumour, splits, inactivity, theft, alcohol and drug abuse along with many other forms of degenerate behaviour.
We are referring to a very wide ranging area here that encompasses English nationalists, racial nationalists, folkish heathens, national socialists, national anarchists and so on. We do not favour one over the other but for the sake of argument the ‘nationalist’ scene has some very questionable characters and a habit of looking like Coronation Street at times. No one really seemed that interested in the youth of today otherwise they would have made a serious effort to awaken them – which they haven’t. So some of the most dedicated and prominent of the White nationalist youth in England got together and started talking about a new direction we could was made by young White nationalists, for young White nationalists and with a view communicating our ideas and way of life to other young Whites effectively.
2) The inspiring direction that young nationalists had taken the national struggle overseas in Germany, Scandinavia etc was in our eyes something that was desperately needed as there is almost no one in this country providing the youth with a sane, attractive and viable nationalist alternative.
It is known as the autonomous nationalist movement which is a decentralized network of likeminded people who use their own time, effort and money to spread the word of national resistance to the people and in our case especially our young brothers and sisters. We answer to no one and abide by our own principles and standards which are set high as we have to lead by example, we encourage a clean upright lifestyle with more emphasis put on personal growth and responsibility rather than letting ourselves become “cry baby nationalists” who use other people as scapegoats for our own personal inadequacies.
Our enemy is the system and the illusion that we live in called “modern society” we are here to change it by any means necessary and in the end, to see the instruments of our degeneration and integration completely destroyed. That is not to say we wish to destroy everything and start again but most tools of government, media and the money system are constricting and choking the life out of our people to the point that if it continues we are going to be an ethnic minority here before the end of the this century. And from then on it is only a matter of time until we are bred out of existence and the rest of our stock absorbed into the brown mass of the other races.
We chose this way of fighting this struggle because the youth are the future of our race and without them there can be no tomorrow for our people, if we put in the time, effort and dedication into awakening them instead of getting drunk and jumping about to skinhead music we might just have a chance of saving ourselves. Our movement is life affirming and positive in nature and we are here to spread this alternative as an antidote to the multicultural poison that is killing us.

Q. I hope you will take it as a compliment if I say some of your words are much like those of Malcolm X, who I regard as a brave and able man. He urged Black Americans to lead a clean upright lifestyle with an emphasis on personal growth and responsibility. In crude terms he wanted each of them to stop grumbling, to get off their arse and do something positive. That included leading a disciplined and productive life and setting a good example to others, especially children. He wanted Black people to have pride in who they were as individuals and as a community. He advocated stable, long-term family structures where children were taught their history and culture and encouraged to bloom into confident positive people. Does the ENR have similar aims for White people in general and English people in particular? What sort of changes in attitude amongst the young do you want to bring about?

A. I’d say that’s a fair analogy, we would like to influence young people in order to show them that there is an alternative way of life that is much better and more rewarding than the degenerate activity most people are into. Changes we would like to see are rejection of multi-ethnic values and acceptance of integration. We want more respect for the environment and for relationships and the attitude which men and women have towards each other. We want people coming together and sticking together as a community instead of us fighting each other all the time over nothing while our enemies get stronger.

Q. What is the primary purpose of the ENR?

A. Our purpose is to get as much national and folkish propaganda to the unawakened young people of our nation as possible so we can bring up the best and brightest people through the ranks. We do not impose strict limitations on people so they can move onto other things like mainstream politics if they are better suited to it; likewise if they are more radical and direct action is their preferred approach they can stay as core activists – or be moved along if they become a liability. In a sense we act as a catch-all for nationalist youth and those just awakened, we do not force or recruit people into a power hungry centralized organization but offer more of a meeting place and youth centre like service. This gives us a lot of flexibility and eases a lot of problems that other groups have had in the past.

Q. You mention the use of folkish propaganda – is this English folkish propaganda? Do you want to promote an awareness of English origins, history and identity? If not, what do you mean by folkish propaganda?

A: Yes we hope to open people’s eyes to the hidden history and true origins of this land and its people. Today being English is not much more than buying a plastic flag and getting hammered down the pub while corporate football is on the slave-box. Promoting the white dragon and getting back to our roots is important as we need to get away from a bastardized, degenerate English culture while building a new one.

Q. It seems that the ENR is run by and for ‘younger people’. Is that so?

A. Yes most definitely
Q. Have you had a good response to your YouTube video?

A. The response was really phenomenal at the time, maybe due to the fact that no one had done anything like it before out of England, thanks to all the supporters and infuriated reds who really hate our channel!

Q. Are there any signs locally that others are following your lead?

A. It depends which area you are talking about but personally where I am from there has been quite a bit of interest and contact from youngsters. The problem is we need more professional means of getting our message across and we are currently working on some very interesting and productive new methods which put us less at risk of prosecution and give us lots more credibility. You will just have to keep your eyes peeled for news on our activities

Q. The organisation to which you belong is called ENR – for English National Resistance – but you seem to see your primary identity as White. Is being English important to you?

A: We are part of the White race but we have our own unique heritage and culture, so yes being English is important but we also need to make it abundantly clear that to be accepted as English you can never ever be anything other than White. The media would have us believe that Frank Bruno, Emile Heskey, Lewis Hamilton or Jordan’s son are all English but this mentally ill modern concept of being English needs to be challenged and destroyed.

Q. If you are successful, and the ruling elite feels the need to mention the ENR, its members and activities are bound to be condemned. How do you feel about that prospect?

A. That isn’t a problem and is fully expected by us as time goes on and we get bigger. I feel it really won’t be worth their while to run hit pieces or smear campaigns on us because nothing they can do will hurt us, the publicity and attention is just going to garner more interest among young people.

Q. Is the ENR associated with any political group?

A. Not at all, although individual members can do what work they like for other groups we have taken a strict stance of neutrality and independence. We do and say things that would get others in trouble and are happy to have this movement stand alone unattached from the party political world, what we hope to achieve is not achievable by voting anyhow.

Q. Are you optimistic about the future for England?

A. That depends what you mean, for the current form that ‘England’ takes I have absolutely no hope for and do not want to save it. We live in a debased multicultural hell where ‘England’ equates to stocking up on crates of Carling just in time to watch eleven non-Whites kick a football around in your name while your daughter gets diversified in the local clubs by enrichers.
This society needs to hurry up and collapse, and out of this chaos a new English nation will one day appear from the rubble – lead by those who were once hated and scorned by the old system and its minions. Only the strongest and most ruthless will be able to survive the collapse, and we hope that this new nation will be able to maintain its integrity long after it is reborn so this scenario we are living in will never happen again.
Source (http://steadfastonline.org.uk/journal/?p=61)


Can't fault much of what he/she says. I can only admire their constitution, resolve and desire.

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 12:08 AM
Aye to that comrade! Marx himself would be proud!

Skandi
09-06-2009, 01:21 AM
"Toffs" being the middle-middle class upwards who have realised the situation which we live in, but actually revelled in the delights of what has been created.



You would be surprised how many of the upper middle class, especialy the rural ones vote BNP I know several, personally.

Fortis in Arduis
09-06-2009, 03:05 PM
There should be fluidity between social groups, but we just don't even know each other any more. :(

Classism preceded and potentiated multiculturalism, but even some 'nationalists' tolerate it.

The erstwhile moderator of the erstwhile BNP members' forum tolerated classism.

These negative effect of these demagogic destructive trends must not be underestimated.

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 05:49 PM
When will you people realise that communism, fascism, national socialism -they're all dead. Move on!

The Lawspeaker
09-06-2009, 05:51 PM
When will you people realise that communism, fascism, national socialism -they're all dead. Move on!
Then what is your idea?

The Lawspeaker
09-06-2009, 05:59 PM
Come on, Hussar. I am waiting for your reply?
Trolling is easy enough- now I want a full reply and reading it better be worth my precious time.

Freomęg
09-06-2009, 06:04 PM
When will you people realise that communism, fascism, national socialism -they're all dead. Move on!
We agree. You'll find few here who actually support any of those ideologies. Personally I'm heavily anti all of those things... or do you think we're 'fascists' for wanting national sovereignty and indigenous ethnic majority?

The Lawspeaker
09-06-2009, 06:06 PM
We agree. You'll find few here who actually support any of those ideologies. Personally I'm heavily anti all of those things... or do you think we're 'fascists' for wanting national sovereignty and indigenous ethnic majority?
I think he does.

Skandi
09-06-2009, 06:45 PM
Classism preceded and potentiated multiculturalism, but even some 'nationalists' tolerate it.


What do you mean by this? The expansion of the middle classes? You can't mean classes as a whole, unless you are thinking that the medieval system potentiated multiculturalism, as that would be an early example of our class system.

Liffrea
09-06-2009, 07:03 PM
Originally Posted by TheWingedHussar
When will you people realise that communism, fascism, national socialism -they're all dead. Move on!

Hmmm many of the Labour Party cabinet admit to being card carrying Communists and they are increasingly Hegelian in outlook.

Not as dead as you think old boy, not as dead as you think.;)

Indeed what do you think we are opposing?

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:13 PM
I think you're a bunch of commies masquerading as/trying to convince yourself that you're something else, whatever that may be. Step back, take a look at yourselves. You're ridiculous! Want to know why the BNP have so little support and why their number of voters went down? It's because people have sense these days. Man, you guys are hysterical!

I will "troll" (why doesn't inane ranting about "Englishness" and all that shizzle count as trolling I wonder?) as and when I want to. I have better things to do than waste my time with the deluded on the internet. Perhaps you could find a better use of your time? Or is whinging constantly about ethnic minorities considered an entertaining pass time in your part of England?

Beorn
09-06-2009, 09:18 PM
I have better things to do than waste my time with the deluded on the internet.

Then log off and fuck off. :wavey001:

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:25 PM
See what I'm talking about? Hilarious!

Skandi
09-06-2009, 09:25 PM
I think you're a bunch of commies masquerading as/trying to convince yourself that you're something else, whatever that may be. Step back, take a look at yourselves. You're ridiculous! Want to know why the BNP have so little support and why their number of voters went down? It's because people have sense these days. Man, you guys are hysterical!

I will "troll" (why doesn't inane ranting about "Englishness" and all that shizzle count as trolling I wonder?) as and when I want to. I have better things to do than waste my time with the deluded on the internet. Perhaps you could find a better use of your time? Or is whinging constantly about ethnic minorities considered an entertaining pass time in your part of England?

And I think you are stupid. But hey ho each to their own. Oh by the way I do like communism, but unlike you I realise that idealism does not work and we do not live in a lovely fluffy world where we will all get on for ever after, I hope that that is something you will never learn, but I fear that you will.

Oh and when did the people voting BNP go down?

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:31 PM
European elections. You cannot argue with statistics my friend.

You like communism and you call me stupid? Pot calling the kettle black?
Perhaps people like you are the reason idealism doesn't work. Perhaps a Stalin-style purge would fix things?

Beorn
09-06-2009, 09:33 PM
European elections. You cannot argue with statistics my friend.

You mean the one where the BNP gained two European seats?

Woe!, the decline of the BNP.

Skandi
09-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Less votes in the Euro elections? You make me laugh but PLEASE check your facts it makes you look stupid.

Votes. 2004 Euro elections, his party received 808,200 votes (4.9 per cent of the total cast in Great Britain)

Votes. 2009 Euro elections, they polled 943,598 votes (6.4 per cent of the total).

Now I understand that numbers are difficult for you but 943598-808200=135398 MORE votes.

We can hardly help it if Alistair Darling is a moron can we :coffee:
source (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/factcheck+how+many+bnp+votes/3203777)

So I am not arguing with statistics but I am calling you stupid.

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Yes that one. The one where their number of voters was lower. The one where fewer people voted because of the expenses scandal, but wouldn't lower themselves to vote for the BNP. That's the one I'm on about, yes.

Skandi
09-06-2009, 09:40 PM
Yes that one. The one where their number of voters was lower. The one where fewer people voted because of the expenses scandal, but wouldn't lower themselves to vote for the BNP. That's the one I'm on about, yes.

And unable to read, you haven't noticed the factual inaccuracies yet have you.

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:41 PM
Less votes in the Euro elections? You make me laugh but PLEASE check your facts it makes you look stupid.

Votes. 2004 Euro elections, his party received 808,200 votes (4.9 per cent of the total cast in Great Britain)

Votes. 2009 Euro elections, they polled 943,598 votes (6.4 per cent of the total).

Now I understand that numbers are difficult for you but 943598-808200=135398 MORE votes.

We can hardly help it if Alistair Darling is a moron can we :coffee:
source (http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/politics/domestic_politics/factcheck+how+many+bnp+votes/3203777)

So I am not arguing with statistics but I am calling you stupid.


Well, as I said. you cannot argue with statistics. You are correct.
It's still funny to watch you guys whinge though, however damaging and infectious it seems to be.

TheWingedHussar
09-06-2009, 09:43 PM
That was because of posting time. I am not a pathetic little keyboard warrior. My page loaded before you posted that. Are you unable to realise that other people aren't as pathetically glued to their computers as you?

I'll pick this up tomorrow. Night folks!

Fortis in Arduis
09-06-2009, 09:50 PM
I have better things to do than waste my time with the deluded on the internet.

kbai :coffee:

Treffie
09-06-2009, 11:13 PM
I think you're a bunch of commies masquerading as/trying to convince yourself that you're something else, whatever that may be. Step back, take a look at yourselves. You're ridiculous! Want to know why the BNP have so little support and why their number of voters went down? It's because people have sense these days. Man, you guys are hysterical!

I will "troll" (why doesn't inane ranting about "Englishness" and all that shizzle count as trolling I wonder?) as and when I want to. I have better things to do than waste my time with the deluded on the internet. Perhaps you could find a better use of your time? Or is whinging constantly about ethnic minorities considered an entertaining pass time in your part of England?

Hey, little one, you're 16 and haven't even voted yet, don't you think that you're a bit green around the gills? Look around you and see what's happening.

Shizzle? WTF? No Snoop Dog language here please - this is an European Preservation forum, not some whigger chat box. ;)

Fortis in Arduis
09-07-2009, 03:18 AM
What do you mean by this? The expansion of the middle classes? You can't mean classes as a whole, unless you are thinking that the medieval system potentiated multiculturalism, as that would be an early example of our class system.

Classism is people organising in their own class interest rather than the national interest.

This is a negative trend which has potentiated multiculturalism.

Freomęg
09-07-2009, 08:37 AM
I think you're a bunch of commies masquerading as/trying to convince yourself that you're something else, whatever that may be.
Do you know what a 'commie' is? I suspect not because most of us here are quite clearly and openly not communist. In fact, many of us hold largely Libertarian-type beliefs. But I won't judge too harshly - my understanding of political ideologies left a lot to be desired at your age.



why doesn't inane ranting about "Englishness" and all that shizzle count as trolling I wonder?
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Or is whinging constantly about ethnic minorities considered an entertaining pass time in your part of England?
Perhaps because this forum is for CULTURAL & ETHNIC EUROPEAN PRESERVATION. Or hadn't you noticed? 'Englishness' (along with any 'European-nation-ness') and the immigration of non-European people are two of the most pertinent subjects when it comes to CULTURAL & ETHNIC EUROPEAN PRESERVATION.

I wonder: What exactly are you here for if these subjects are so distateful to you?


Perhaps a Stalin-style purge would fix things?
Right and we're the 'fascists'!? :rolleyes:

Fortis in Arduis
09-07-2009, 11:45 AM
I wonder: What exactly are you here for if these subjects are so distateful to you?



I don't have a problem with mosques.


I'm guessing you ultra-conservative, borderline racist nutjobs have never set foot in London, where you could be a follower of the flying spaghetti monster and be tolerated, because the people who live there are capable of intelligence every one in a while.

bai lol

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Tolerate patriotism, tolerate nationalism, tolerate co-operative economics, money reform and distributism, tolerate politically incorrect views about race and behaviour, and when you have managed to do that child, you can sit back and 'celebrate the diversity'...


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The Lawspeaker
09-07-2009, 12:45 PM
European elections. You cannot argue with statistics my friend.
Ouch- you just got your ass kicked there when she showed you the statistics.


You like communism and you call me stupid?
Communism in on paper a very good system as it would create a balanced economy, liberty and equality for all and completely eradicate poverty. When I was in my late teens I strongly believed in that system but I learned a lesson or two there. The problem of communism is not communism itself- the problem of communism is communists and the communist party and their almost religious stance towards what is now ancient dogma and the workings of psychology, economy, civil society and politics.
Communism, however beautiful on paper, cannot be put into practice because it destroys civil liberties and creates a very strong state where the citizen becomes a mere serf. One can even argue whether communism in reality is not a shortcut towards fascism.




Perhaps people like you are the reason idealism doesn't work. Perhaps a Stalin-style purge would fix things?
And then you call us fascists ?:rolleyes2:


I'm guessing you ultra-conservative, borderline racist nutjobs have never set foot in London, where you could be a follower of the flying spaghetti monster and be tolerated, because the people who live there are capable of intelligence every one in a while.
k bai bai