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Samnium
02-12-2020, 09:29 AM
I wanted to post here some results that I've seen on geneanet forum.

Pour ma mère (75% Champagne-Lorraine, 25% Haute-Savoie) ça donne : (3/4 Champagne 1/4 Haute-Savoie)

Distance to: B
4.45341442 Swiss_German
5.56779130 South_Dutch
5.67177221 French
6.12599380 West_German
6.60540688 Swiss_French

Distance: 1.7809% / 1.78089489 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 Swiss_German
22.0 Southwest_French
10.2 Swedish
7.8 German_east
7.0 French
5.0 South_Dutch

Pour ma tante (sa belle-sœur), 100% champenoise : (100% Champagne)

5.38108725 French
5.87361899 Swiss_German
6.15633820 Swiss_French
6.99535560 South_Dutch
7.62200105 West_German
7.84549552 AostaValley

53.6 Swiss_French
27.8 Welsh
10.8 Southwest_French
6.6 Spanish_Galicia
1.2 Serb_North-Macedonia

Strange that the Haute-Savoie ancestry drifted her further north. (only 25%) As you see she can be modeled as 48% Swiss German + 10% Swedish + 7 % German East which is a noticeable north shift. (closer to South Dutch than to French)
Leto
02-13-2020, 01:48 PM
Strange that the Haute-Savoie ancestry drifted her further north. (only 25%) As you see she can be modeled as 48% Swiss German + 10% Swedish + 7 % German East which is a noticeable north shift. (closer to South Dutch than to French)
Why would her Haute Savoie quarter pull her northwards? Isn't Champagne in Grand Est?
I wonder who is more Northern - Swiss Germans or GE French?
Samnium
02-13-2020, 02:06 PM
Why would her Haute Savoie quarter pull her northwards? Isn't Champagne in Grand Est?
I wonder who is more Northern - Swiss Germans or GE French?

I don't know, it's strange, but as you see being 1/4 Haute-Savoie she end up by plotting "more" northern than a full "Champagne" sample.

And yes Champagne it's very north compared to Haute-Savoie :

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Champagne-Ardenne_region_locator_map.svg

Swiss Germans are definitely more Northern, in my opinion. As well as probably french swiss but the samples on G25 are very unrepresentative.
Leto
02-13-2020, 02:16 PM
I wonder what kind of French Davidski's reference is. The ethnic French seem to be Celtic, Roman and Germanic essentially.
dududud
02-13-2020, 02:20 PM
I wonder what kind of French Davidski's reference is. The ethnic French seem to be Celtic, Roman and Germanic essentially.

What is roman? A ethnic group? Roman from the Roman Empire was not a ethnic group: venetian, sicilian, greek, etc.

Vasconic is a more accurate term.
Leto
02-13-2020, 02:33 PM
What is roman? A ethnic group? Roman from the Roman Empire was not a ethnic group: venetian, sicilian, greek, etc.

Vasconic is a more accurate term.
Some type of Italiano/Mediterrano ;)
dududud
02-13-2020, 03:16 PM
Some type of Italiano/Mediterrano ;)

Ok you don't know. You are weird, dude.

The French are not descended from the Romans of Rome, or from the Latins of Lazio. They are descended from the pre-Indo-European population, the western hunter gatherer and the Neolithic population = reality.

Parle français, petit être.
Leto
02-13-2020, 03:28 PM
Ok you don't know. You are weird, dude.

The French are not descended from the Romans of Rome, or from the Latins of Lazio. They are descended from the pre-Indo-European population, the western hunter gatherer and the Neolithic population = reality.

Parle français, petit être.
Okay...
No francais, sorry.
Slavic Italian
02-13-2020, 03:32 PM
Ok you don't know. You are weird, dude.

The French are not descended from the Romans of Rome, or from the Latins of Lazio. They are descended from the pre-Indo-European population, the western hunter gatherer and the Neolithic population = reality.

Parle français, petit être.

Franks. :)