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Laag
02-13-2020, 11:30 PM
https://i.imgur.com/sKGTnll.jpg

https://play.google.com/store/books/details?id=S04EAAAAYAAJ

Proto-Shaman
02-13-2020, 11:47 PM
Looks Native American.

Ymyyakhtakh
02-14-2020, 01:11 AM
Top NEUP. She looks very strong and robust, similar to this Izhma Komi:

https://i.imgur.com/m2ZnYDa.jpg

Here's another woman from Syktyvkar I found by searching for the image in this thread on Yandex's reverse image search (https://yandex.ru/images/search?source=collections&cbir_id=1879261%2FP34Ja0foIvKHUSrk08kh5A&rpt=imagelike). I'm not sure if she's Komi though, but she looks very NEUP.

http://pobeda.nbrkomi.ru/images/tJvicIDHNdP8UakBf6i1.jpg
http://pobeda.nbrkomi.ru/foto/num/2/12/

People used to look much stronger and healthier in the past, so I don't believe that the secular increase in height has necessarily been due to improved nutrition.


Looks Native American.

Yeah because those ornaments look like feathers.

However when Native Americans wear white clothes and they are presented in a white-like setting, they sometimes look like Maris too, like these Tehuelche (Patgonians). They look like they have Northern European admixture though.

https://i.imgur.com/4jZ1gTC.jpg
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_55893

Crn Volk
02-14-2020, 01:12 AM
Sinid

Laag
02-14-2020, 08:12 AM
However when Native Americans wear white clothes and they are presented in a white-like setting, they sometimes look like Maris too, like these Tehuelche (Patgonians). They look like they have Northern European admixture though.

https://i.imgur.com/4jZ1gTC.jpg
http://collections.si.edu/search/results.htm?q=siris_arc_55893

I remember you posted old photos of Polish women and they looked like Black slaves in sugar cane plantations.

IrisSelene
02-14-2020, 08:13 AM
She just looks like any typical eastern european grandma to me

Laag
02-14-2020, 08:20 AM
Looks Native American.


Yes, because of clothes but she has fair skin, light hair and probably light eyes. Zenkevich found that 63,0% of Mari men have light eyes (7-12 on Bunak scale). This is more than many continental European populations have.

Lemminkäinen
02-14-2020, 08:40 AM
She looks normal.

IrisSelene
02-14-2020, 08:53 AM
Yall are tripping. If I posted these pics and said she was Romanian yall would have totally different opinions.

Ymyyakhtakh
02-14-2020, 09:11 AM
I remember you posted old photos of Polish women and they looked like Black slaves in sugar cane plantations.

These ones? I think they have good morphology (other than the one on the left), and they probably looked pretty when they were younger. The one on the left looks ugly because she has a long and narrow face and nose, a short subnasal segment, a protruding chin, thin lips, and an elliptical or egg-shaped head.

https://i.imgur.com/zc3Iih1.jpg
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/72074

Ülev
02-14-2020, 09:18 AM
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Columella
02-14-2020, 09:11 PM
Kris Kristofferson?
https://image.shutterstock.com/image-photo/kris-kristofferson-glamour-reel-moments-600w-119945362.jpg

Laag
02-15-2020, 05:50 PM
^ Good find.