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Impaler

02-15-2020, 12:49 AM

My cousin on my mother side never knew his father's origins. Some people say that he is Swabian, Jewish or Hungarian Gypsy (Gabor).

Y-DNA: R1b-L47

Any opinions about it?

I will post some of his results on GEDmatch:

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.16
2 North_Atlantic 24.66
3 East_Med 20.01
4 West_Med 16.95
5 West_Asian 8.76
6 South_Asian 1.85
7 Red_Sea 1.15
8 Siberian 0.85
9 East_Asian 0.62

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 3.28
2 Bulgarian 4.39
3 Serbian 5.2
4 Moldavian 11.34
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.48
6 Hungarian 12.89
7 Croatian 13.7
8 North_Italian 15.64
9 Austrian 15.66
10 Tuscan 15.82
11 East_German 17.46
12 Italian_Abruzzo 17.68
13 Central_Greek 18.6
14 West_Sicilian 18.81
15 West_German 19.17
16 French 19.39
17 East_Sicilian 19.7
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.17
19 Portuguese 20.45
20 South_Polish 20.54

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% South_Polish @ 2.68
2 71.6% Greek_Thessaly + 28.4% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.73
3 82.2% Serbian + 17.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.74
4 52.5% South_Polish + 47.5% South_Italian @ 2.85
5 71.9% Serbian + 28.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
6 73.5% Greek_Thessaly + 26.5% Estonian @ 2.91
7 57.4% South_Polish + 42.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.91
8 53.1% West_Sicilian + 46.9% Ukrainian @ 2.95
9 53.1% Greek_Thessaly + 46.9% Hungarian @ 2.96
10 56.5% West_Sicilian + 43.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.97
11 86.6% Serbian + 13.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 3
12 73.3% Greek_Thessaly + 26.7% Finnish @ 3.01
13 59.2% West_Sicilian + 40.8% Belorussian @ 3.03
14 86.6% Serbian + 13.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.04
15 67.2% Croatian + 32.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.05
16 52.2% West_Sicilian + 47.8% South_Polish @ 3.08
17 57.3% Bulgarian + 42.7% Serbian @ 3.08
18 58.7% West_Sicilian + 41.3% Estonian_Polish @ 3.09
19 63% West_Sicilian + 37% Lithuanian @ 3.1
20 89.9% Bulgarian + 10.1% North_Swedish @ 3.14

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Hungarian @ 3.344893

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% Serbian +25% South_Polish @ 2.932952

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Ashkenazi + Greek_Thessaly + Hungarian + South_Polish @ 2.504313

Eurogenes K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 19.03
2 Atlantic 17
3 North_Sea 14.9
4 Baltic 14.26
5 West_Med 12.8
6 Eastern_Euro 12.64
7 West_Asian 7.26
8 South_Asian 1.32
9 Red_Sea 0.35
10 Southeast_Asian 0.24
11 Siberian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.41
2 Romanian 6.6
3 Serbian 7.25
4 Greek 10.7
5 Greek_Thessaly 11.06
6 Moldavian 12.73
7 Austrian 13.34
8 Tuscan 13.74
9 Croatian 13.88
10 Hungarian 14.18
11 North_Italian 14.52
12 Italian_Abruzzo 15.19
13 West_Sicilian 15.84
14 Ashkenazi 16.02
15 Central_Greek 16.25
16 East_Sicilian 17.15
17 East_German 17.99
18 Portuguese 19.08
19 French 19.24
20 Spanish_Galicia 19.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.4% Greek + 29.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.96
2 71.3% Greek + 28.7% Finnish @ 4.1
3 71.7% Greek + 28.3% East_Finnish @ 4.16
4 59.8% West_Sicilian + 40.2% Southwest_Russian @ 4.31
5 73.2% Greek + 26.8% Estonian @ 4.44
6 63.1% Serbian + 36.9% Greek @ 4.5
7 56.8% West_Sicilian + 43.2% Ukrainian @ 4.51
8 59.5% West_Sicilian + 40.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.56
9 61.6% West_Sicilian + 38.4% Belorussian @ 4.67
10 61.6% West_Sicilian + 38.4% Estonian_Polish @ 4.68
11 61.8% West_Sicilian + 38.2% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.69
12 59% West_Sicilian + 41% Polish @ 4.69
13 56.3% West_Sicilian + 43.7% South_Polish @ 4.7
14 63.7% West_Sicilian + 36.3% Estonian @ 4.71
15 73% Greek + 27% North_Swedish @ 4.72
16 69.4% Greek + 30.6% Polish @ 4.76
17 58.2% Greek + 41.8% Hungarian @ 4.76
18 59.4% West_Sicilian + 40.6% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.81
19 56.6% Greek + 43.4% Austrian @ 4.83
20 64.9% West_Sicilian + 35.1% Lithuanian @ 4.86

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Italian_Jewish +50% Polish @ 5.490222

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Greek +25% Southwest_Finnish @ 4.842950

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Lebanese_Druze + Spanish_Valencia @ 4.362230

Dodecad K12b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 34.47
2 Atlantic_Med 26.58
3 Caucasus 24.94
4 Southwest_Asian 6.15
5 Gedrosia 4.31
6 South_Asian 2.24
7 Siberian 0.78
8 Northwest_African 0.38
9 East_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 4.14
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 5.67
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 6.24
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 14.1
5 Hungarians (Behar) 15.36
6 N_Italian (Dodecad) 17.12
7 Greek (Dodecad) 17.72
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 18.42
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 18.68
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.16
11 North_Italian (HGDP) 20.11
12 German (Dodecad) 20.12
13 French (Dodecad) 22.78
14 French (HGDP) 22.89
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 23.25
16 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.3
17 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.32
18 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.34
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.56
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 24.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.1% Romanians (Behar) + 11.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 1.93
2 88.2% Romanians (Behar) + 11.8% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 1.99
3 87.9% Romanians (Behar) + 12.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 2.04
4 89.1% Romanians (Behar) + 10.9% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.07
5 89.5% Romanians (Behar) + 10.5% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 2.08
6 90.1% Romanians (Behar) + 9.9% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 2.11
7 89.2% Romanians (Behar) + 10.8% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 2.13
8 61.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 38.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 2.14
9 89.3% Romanians (Behar) + 10.7% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 2.18
10 92.9% Romanians (Behar) + 7.1% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
11 86.6% Romanians (Behar) + 13.4% French (Dodecad) @ 2.21
12 90.1% Romanians (Behar) + 9.9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
13 89.5% Romanians (Behar) + 10.5% Spaniards (Behar) @ 2.22
14 90.5% Romanians (Behar) + 9.5% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 2.22
15 86.8% Romanians (Behar) + 13.2% French (HGDP) @ 2.25
16 90.4% Romanians (Behar) + 9.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.27
17 89.5% Romanians (Behar) + 10.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 2.3
18 93.8% Romanians (Behar) + 6.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 2.31
19 88.3% Romanians (Behar) + 11.7% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 2.31
20 90.1% Romanians (Behar) + 9.9% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.33

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Dodecad +50% Hungarians_Behar @ 3.007501

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% O_Italian_Dodecad +25% Romanians_Behar +25% Ukranians_Yunusbayev @ 2.149094

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Mordovians_Yunusbayev + N_Italian_Dodecad + Romanians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 1.846001

HarappaWorld

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE-Euro 37.24
2 Caucasian 23.94
3 Mediterranean 23.78
4 Baloch 6.96
5 SW-Asian 4.86
6 S-Indian 1.69
7 Siberian 0.81
8 NE-Asian 0.4
9 American 0.15
10 E-African 0.08
11 SE-Asian 0.08
12 Papuan 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 romanian-a (behar) 2.2
2 bulgarian (yunusbayev) 4.79
3 hungarian (behar) 13.65
4 italian (hgdp) 14.85
5 slovenian (xing) 15.01
6 tuscan (hgdp) 15.37
7 tuscan (1000genomes) 15.45
8 tuscan (hapmap) 15.48
9 french (hgdp) 18.33
10 ashkenazi (harappa) 20.26
11 n-european (xing) 22.08
12 utahn-white (1000genomes) 22.77
13 ukranian (yunusbayev) 22.81
14 spaniard (behar) 22.89
15 utahn-white (hapmap) 23.38
16 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 23.66
17 spaniard (1000genomes) 24.09
18 british (1000genomes) 24.62
19 orcadian (hgdp) 26.97
20 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 27.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.1% romanian-a (behar) + 6.9% orcadian (hgdp) @ 0.93
2 92.5% romanian-a (behar) + 7.5% british (1000genomes) @ 0.96
3 92% romanian-a (behar) + 8% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 0.97
4 91.9% romanian-a (behar) + 8.1% n-european (xing) @ 1.02
5 88.3% romanian-a (behar) + 11.7% hungarian (behar) @ 1.27
6 91% romanian-a (behar) + 9% french (hgdp) @ 1.27
7 89.8% romanian-a (behar) + 10.2% slovenian (xing) @ 1.4
8 96.1% romanian-a (behar) + 3.9% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.62
9 93.9% romanian-a (behar) + 6.1% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 1.64
10 95.2% romanian-a (behar) + 4.8% belorussian (behar) @ 1.67
11 95.8% romanian-a (behar) + 4.2% russian (hgdp) @ 1.7
12 95.3% romanian-a (behar) + 4.7% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 1.71
13 96.6% romanian-a (behar) + 3.4% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 1.78
14 96.8% romanian-a (behar) + 3.2% basque (hgdp) @ 1.8
15 95.8% romanian-a (behar) + 4.2% russian (behar) @ 1.82
16 97.5% romanian-a (behar) + 2.5% finnish (1000genomes) @ 1.85
17 95.3% romanian-a (behar) + 4.7% spaniard (behar) @ 1.89
18 86% bulgarian (yunusbayev) + 14% orcadian (hgdp) @ 1.9
19 95.6% romanian-a (behar) + 4.4% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 1.91
20 96.7% romanian-a (behar) + 3.3% chuvash (behar) @ 1.95

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a_behar +50% romanian-a_behar @ 2.411941

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% romanian-a_behar +25% romanian-a_behar +25% serbian_harappa @ 1.920355

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 armenian_yunusbayev + lithuanian_behar + russian_behar + sardinian_hgdp @ 1.607649

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.88
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 30.09
3 European_Early_Farmers 19.6
4 Near_East 6.07
5 South_Central_Asian 3.63
6 Ancestral_Altaic 2.35
7 South_Indian 1.35
8 North_African 1.27
9 Arctic 0.89
10 East_Siberian 0.64
11 Melano_Polynesian 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrian ( ) 2.48
2 Macedonian ( ) 3.65
3 Bulgarian ( ) 3.69
4 Serb_Serbia ( ) 4.08
5 Serb_BH ( ) 4.58
6 Croat ( ) 4.8
7 Bosnian ( ) 5.44
8 Croat_BH ( ) 6.17
9 Greek_Northwest ( ) 7.45
10 Romanian ( ) 8.03
11 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.54
12 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 8.78
13 Kosovar ( ) 8.84
14 Sicilian_West ( ) 9.09
15 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.26
16 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 9.37
17 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 9.65
18 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 10.07
19 Slovenian ( ) 10.14
20 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 10.63

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.2% Central_Greek ( ) + 40.8% German ( ) @ 1.57
2 57.3% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 42.7% Czech ( ) @ 1.58
3 53.2% Austrian ( ) + 46.8% Greek_Macedonia ( ) @ 1.65
4 65% Hungarian ( ) + 35% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.67
5 58.1% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 41.9% North_German ( ) @ 1.7
6 58.9% Slovenian ( ) + 41.1% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 1.73
7 68% Central_Greek ( ) + 32% Finn_West ( ) @ 1.73
8 66.1% Slovenian ( ) + 33.9% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.74
9 53.2% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 46.8% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) @ 1.76
10 54.9% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 45.1% Czech ( ) @ 1.8
11 55.4% Hungarian_Budapest ( ) + 44.6% Central_Greek ( ) @ 1.84
12 61.4% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 38.6% Dane ( ) @ 1.84
13 74.7% Gagauz ( ) + 25.3% Icelandic ( ) @ 1.85
14 59.7% Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) + 40.3% Slovak ( ) @ 1.86
15 57.4% Greek_Thessaly ( ) + 42.6% Slovak ( ) @ 1.86
16 63.6% Greek_Northwest ( ) + 36.4% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 1.86
17 73.4% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 26.6% Finn_West ( ) @ 1.87
18 91.2% Macedonian ( ) + 8.8% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 1.87
19 84.5% Macedonian ( ) + 15.5% German-Volga ( ) @ 1.87
20 65.4% Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) + 34.6% German ( ) @ 1.87

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Austrian_ +50% Greek_Macedonia_ @ 1.952434

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Phokaia_ +25% Irish_ +25% Ukrainian_ @ 1.563613

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Czech_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Greek_Phokaia_ + Hungarian_Budapest_ @ 1.148984

Coastal Elite

02-15-2020, 06:30 AM

I posted this in an earlier thread but this is a Southern Transylvanians K13. Wanted to post it for comparison.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 22
2 Baltic 21.66
3 East_Med 20.39
4 West_Med 19.87
5 West_Asian 11.48
6 Red_Sea 2.79
7 East_Asian 0.89
8 Oceanian 0.44
9 Amerindian 0.31
10 Siberian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 2.97
2 Romanian 4.75
3 Greek_Thessaly 7.12
4 Serbian 8.87
5 Tuscan 12.66
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.53
7 North_Italian 13.77
8 Central_Greek 13.99
9 Moldavian 14.64
10 West_Sicilian 14.83
11 East_Sicilian 15.3
12 Hungarian 17.15
13 Ashkenazi 17.32
14 Croatian 17.52
15 South_Italian 18.26
16 Austrian 19.33
17 Portuguese 20.2
18 Spanish_Galicia 20.88
19 French 20.97
20 Spanish_Extremadura 20.98

MDLP K23b Oracle results:
MDLP K23b Oracle Rev 2014 Sep 16

Kit M551807

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.21
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 26.92
3 European_Early_Farmers 20.69
4 Near_East 7.22
5 South_Central_Asian 5.07
6 North_African 2.96
7 Ancestral_Altaic 1.65
8 Australoid 0.66
9 South_East_Asian 0.63
10 Austronesian 0.37
11 Arctic 0.28
12 East_Siberian 0.15
13 Paleo_Siberian 0.1
14 Amerindian 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Montenegrian ( ) 4.32
2 Bulgarian ( ) 5.06
3 Serb_Serbia ( ) 5.15
4 Macedonian ( ) 5.6
5 Serb_BH ( ) 6.41
6 Croat ( ) 6.61
7 Sicilian_West ( ) 6.76
8 Greek_Northwest ( ) 7.09
9 Bosnian ( ) 7.2
10 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 7.93
11 Croat_BH ( ) 8.06
12 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 8.71
13 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.86
14 Kosovar ( ) 8.91
15 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 9.12
16 Maltese ( ) 9.13
17 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 9.74
18 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.8
19 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 9.86
20 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54% Austrian ( ) + 46% Cretan ( ) @ 0.97
2 65.2% Austrian ( ) + 34.8% Cypriot ( ) @ 1.59
3 58.8% Austrian ( ) + 41.2% Greek_Smyrna ( ) @ 1.62
4 66.3% South_German ( ) + 33.7% Druze ( ) @ 1.72
5 54.2% North_German ( ) + 45.8% Cypriot ( ) @ 1.73
6 57.5% Cretan ( ) + 42.5% North_German ( ) @ 1.74
7 51.4% Serb_BH ( ) + 48.6% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 1.78
8 50.6% Croat ( ) + 49.4% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 1.81
9 61.8% Austrian ( ) + 38.2% Greek_Islands ( ) @ 1.89
10 62.7% Cretan ( ) + 37.3% Swede ( ) @ 1.92
11 61% Cretan ( ) + 39% Dane ( ) @ 1.92
12 51.7% Sicilian_West ( ) + 48.3% Bosnian ( ) @ 1.95
13 64.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 35.6% Belarusian ( ) @ 1.95
14 61.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 38.6% Ukrainian ( ) @ 1.97
15 57.6% Serb_Serbia ( ) + 42.4% Sicilian_West ( ) @ 2
16 66.4% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 33.6% Russian_Center ( ) @ 2.01
17 62.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 37.9% Don_cossack ( ) @ 2.02
18 67.1% Italian_Abruzzo ( ) + 32.9% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.03
19 55.3% Greek_Macedonia ( ) + 44.7% North_German ( ) @ 2.04
20 56.6% Greek ( ) + 43.4% North_German ( ) @ 2.05