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Laag
02-15-2020, 06:25 AM
https://i.imgur.com/DYOocZH.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PyVqMYC.jpg

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6139746g.r=L?rk=21459;2

Laag
02-15-2020, 01:46 PM
bump

Voskos
02-15-2020, 01:48 PM
You do realize those are very atypical for Bulgaria? I never seen Bulgarians like that.

Anyway:

1.Dinaromed
2.Alpine med

Laag
02-15-2020, 01:49 PM
You do realize those are very atypical for Bulgaria? I never seen Bulgarians like that.

Anyway:

1.Dinaromed
2.Alpine med

Generic Bulgarian look. They look very Bulgarian to me.

Laag
02-15-2020, 01:51 PM
You do realize those are very atypical for Bulgaria? I never seen Bulgarians like that.

Anyway:

1.Dinaromed
2.Alpine med

Generic Bulgarian look. They look very Bulgarian to me.

The Blade
02-15-2020, 01:58 PM
1 - Dinaro-Med
2 - Dinarid
Link you provided in another thread is in French and shows no info of them being Bulgarian though.

Laag
02-15-2020, 01:59 PM
https://static.bnr.bg/gallery/cr/006f59d53bcaff0e773c7863f91fd8ae.jpg
https://static.bnr.bg/gallery/cr/medium/9ebb2410cd5c7c1d7e23cdaaa18656e5.jpg
https://s1.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20130224&t=2&i=706979914&r=CBRE91N0ZVF00&w=1280
https://cdn.prod.www.spiegel.de/images/2b8e5da1-0001-0004-0000-000000476410_w1200_r1_fpx66.09_fpy46.96.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRUECL-AMjgR7xaU7iHUWIcmjDLF7iEXAv-QKRZ_PTy2UAuHvH8
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQTjSca4qcqEGHMGdxUeKgGQ001p9d hao1jZ2DMX2f10RCdCGrz
https://cdni.rt.com/files/news/21/18/f0/00/bulgaria_protest.si.jpg
https://www.criticatac.ro/lefteast/wp-content/uploads/606x340_214810.jpg

Laag
02-15-2020, 02:03 PM
1 - Dinaro-Med
2 - Dinarid
Link you provided in another thread is in French and shows no info of them being Bulgarian though.

pages 291-313

Lioncourt
02-15-2020, 02:05 PM
1 - Dinaro-Med
2 - Dinarid
Link you provided in another thread is in French and shows no info of them being Bulgarian though.

He is a troll, don't bother replying to him.

The Blade
02-15-2020, 02:13 PM
He is a troll, don't bother replying to him.
I know very well. He just posted some crowds who protested against Karakachanov.
As usual, 3/4 of people at such events are Gypsies (his kin, in other words).
Anti-nationalistic protests by Gypsies who wanna present themselves as pro-European (thus the Bulgarian flags).
I wonder how he spends so much time digging such shit, since society doesn't give a fuck about that puppy barking and it gets forgotten after an hour - lol.

Laag
02-15-2020, 02:24 PM
He is a troll, don't bother replying to him.


Supporters of the nationalist Bulgarian party "Ataka".

https://www.euractiv.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2011/05/Ataka%20supporters.jpeg
https://editorial01.shutterstock.com/wm-preview-1500/7729306d/52f8c009/bulgaria-anti-turkey-rally-oct-2010-shutterstock-editorial-7729306d.jpg
https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/members-and-supporters-of-bulgarias-farright-nationalist-ataka-party-picture-id109739698?k=6&m=109739698&s=612x612&w=0&h=4YyANdERvdDCrgFDQw2trojQnfIegsEN6PGt6vjoPG8=
https://www.romea.cz/aaa/img.php?src=/img_upload/03ec66ac77713bab242255f6194ad3ff/hate-errc_1.jpg&w=630
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTfAhqpl_Fy0LTc6Jfrf6x2JPmyMmL WoVB5KKCUBkkONBEnwTMo
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSfnD6GHxkxEB07uPxx4lglBJ2UUcr N2TOg9m-O3cqban1LT_fX


They look like the OP women. Nedrigayloff classified them as Med and Dinaric. Two of the most common types in Bulgaria. Nedrigayloff must be a troll too?

The Blade
02-15-2020, 02:26 PM
Just lol at comparing Dinarics and Meds (OP and in general) to the prognathic Veddoid and Indobrachid kin of Laag.

Benyzero
02-15-2020, 02:28 PM
If these are not gipsyes I eat my hat lol

Jana
02-15-2020, 02:31 PM
These women are obvious Gypsies.

TheMaestro
02-15-2020, 02:33 PM
Most of them are gypos, nice try XD

Laag
02-15-2020, 03:04 PM
Most of them are gypos, nice try XD

Gypsies in nationalist anti-Gypsy Bulgarian party "Ataka"? it's impossible.

Laag
02-15-2020, 03:09 PM
These women are obvious Gypsies.

No, they aren't. Those are Bulgarians from Nedrigayloff's study. I remember you posted the Bulgarian pilgrims and they looked just like those two women.

Laag
02-15-2020, 04:00 PM
I mean these Bulgarian piligrims, they look exactly like the OP women and those supporters of "Ataka". Med and Dinaric are the two most common phenotypes in Bulgaria. This is exactly how Bulgarians look.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/01/06/13/bulgaria-1.jpg?w968h681
https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/34/db/0001db34_medium.jpeg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/8ea95d183d55bea11d851f17e94a4137/tumblr_o0ky7dB0EO1qd65vgo1_1280.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/darkroom-cdn/2015/01/AP-APTOPIX-Bulgaria-Epiphan.jpg
https://files.prokerala.com/news/photos/imgs/1024/kalofer-jan-6-2014-xinhua-ians-bulgarian-men-141999.jpg
https://www.novinite.com/media/images/2016-01/photo_verybig_172518.jpg

Jana
02-15-2020, 04:09 PM
I mean these Bulgarian piligrims, they look exactly like the OP women and those supporters of "Ataka". Med and Dinaric are the two most common phenotypes in Bulgaria. This is exactly how Bulgarians look.

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2014/01/06/13/bulgaria-1.jpg?w968h681
https://pix.avax.news/avaxnews/34/db/0001db34_medium.jpeg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/8ea95d183d55bea11d851f17e94a4137/tumblr_o0ky7dB0EO1qd65vgo1_1280.jpg
https://s3.amazonaws.com/darkroom-cdn/2015/01/AP-APTOPIX-Bulgaria-Epiphan.jpg
https://files.prokerala.com/news/photos/imgs/1024/kalofer-jan-6-2014-xinhua-ians-bulgarian-men-141999.jpg
https://www.novinite.com/media/images/2016-01/photo_verybig_172518.jpg


Pilgrims look SE European (mostly Pontid/Gorid/Dinarid range), women from OP are Indids. Nice trolling attempt. ;)

Laag
02-15-2020, 04:14 PM
Pilgrims look SE European (mostly Pontid/Gorid/Dinarid range), women from OP are Indids. Nice trolling attempt. ;)

Nedrigayloff classified the first woman as Med and the second one as Dinaric.
https://i.imgur.com/naUfeMK.png
https://i.imgur.com/GKTrN0V.jpg

Norb
02-15-2020, 04:30 PM
Gypsy

Lioncourt
02-15-2020, 04:45 PM
Laag do you pass as Bulgarian?

Laag
02-17-2020, 10:12 AM
Laag do you pass as Bulgarian?

I don't think so. I pass much better in Northern Europe: Komi Republic or Udmurtia than in Southern Europe.

Think I look like this Komi man. Photos from Sergel's collection.

http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/kLEwWFV_AqrOf706WczLxUGhTKe6KwdmmRYwceknfKtecfvalO pkoDztbNAF8AxF.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/kLEwWFV_AqrOf706WczLxYG_z-_fsqw05dNdJkLWpDFV9-JW-FXDViTw8Q3DPJia.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/64227?page=5&query=%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8&index=213

Compare with these Bulgarians from Niko Zupanic's study work.

https://i.imgur.com/63n5aNh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Ix1mx2I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XhXzoKc.jpg

http://www.svetlost.org/podaci/antropologija_bugara_dr_niko_zupanic_1913.pdf

Ymyyakhtakh
02-17-2020, 10:40 AM
I don't think so. I pass much better in Northern Europe: Komi Republic or Udmurtia than in Southern Europe.

Think I look like this Komi man. Photos from Sergel's collection.

http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/kLEwWFV_AqrOf706WczLxUGhTKe6KwdmmRYwceknfKtecfvalO pkoDztbNAF8AxF.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/api/spf/kLEwWFV_AqrOf706WczLxYG_z-_fsqw05dNdJkLWpDFV9-JW-FXDViTw8Q3DPJia.jpg?w=1500&h=830
http://collection.kunstkamera.ru/entity/OBJECT/64227?page=5&query=%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BC%D0%B8&index=213

I now look like the Komi-Permyak man (#3) below by Biasutti (https://archive.org/details/lerazzeeipopolid02bias/) because I have a buzz cut. However my CI is not as insane. According to the definition used by humanphenotypes (http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/cephalicindex.html), the CI of the man below (90) is hyperbrachycephalic (>=85.5) and close to ultrabrachycephalic (>=91). Also I'm about 35 cm taller than him, and I look a lot younger.

https://i.imgur.com/nFd1OTw.jpg

It's weird how my family members all look like Komis or Maris or Mansi or something. Even my brother looks exactly like this Khanty man by Coon:

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe023.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate02.htm

Laag
02-17-2020, 11:27 AM
I now look like the Komi-Permyak man (#3) below by Biasutti (https://archive.org/details/lerazzeeipopolid02bias/) because I have a buzz cut. However my CI is not as insane. According to the definition used by humanphenotypes (http://humanphenotypes.net/metrics/cephalicindex.html), the CI of the man below (90) is hyperbrachycephalic (>=85.5) and close to ultrabrachycephalic (>=91). Also I'm about 35 cm taller than him, and I look a lot younger.

https://i.imgur.com/nFd1OTw.jpg

It's weird how my family members all look like Komis or Maris or Mansi or something. Even my brother looks exactly like this Khanty man by Coon:



#3 looks like the "Old Man" of Cro-Magnon.
Ilustration from TROE.
https://i.imgur.com/VbwzJsT.jpg

Ymyyakhtakh
02-17-2020, 12:36 PM
#3 looks like the "Old Man" of Cro-Magnon.
Ilustration from TROE.
https://i.imgur.com/VbwzJsT.jpg

Oh no... I look CM for sure, but not like that.

Maybe the drawing looks more realistic than this reconstruction though:

https://i.imgur.com/6TeOb0f.jpg

The drawing has a really long subnasal segment. If it's based on the skull shown in the image above, it doesn't seem to match the skull.

aherne
02-17-2020, 07:31 PM
1) Indid (Punjab, Rajasthan, Haryana)
2) Indid-European mix (passes only as Gypsy)