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Synapsid
02-16-2020, 12:44 PM
Both places are disliked by Nationalist on TA. But which of the two places have the potential to be a industrial, economic and technological powerhouse?

Synapsid
02-16-2020, 12:46 PM
And I mean SSA not Nothern Africa, which not really African but Near Eastern/West Eurasian.

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 10:32 AM
Bump

TheMaestro
02-17-2020, 02:03 PM
I love Mexico acutally, great food, good looking girls, nice climate, telenovelas, mariachi - music.

Viridian1
02-17-2020, 02:06 PM
I love Mexico acutally, great food, good looking girls, nice climate, telenovelas, mariachi - music.

And barbaric neo aztec rituals

TheMaestro
02-17-2020, 02:09 PM
And barbaric neo aztec rituals

I can't hear you, I'm eating tortillas.

TheMaestro
02-17-2020, 02:09 PM
And barbaric neo aztec rituals

I can't hear you, I'm eating tortillas.

Ülev
02-17-2020, 02:14 PM
in Polish lang. Mexico = Meksyk, and Poland owns Mexico already

https://polska-org.pl/5542643,Dzikowice,Meksyk.html

renaissance12
02-17-2020, 02:22 PM
I love Mexico acutally, great food, good looking girls, nice climate, telenovelas, mariachi - music.


I love "speedy Gonzales"..

https://cautruyencotich.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Looney-Tunes-Best-of-Speedy-Gonzales-Classic-Cartoon-Compilation-WB-Kids.jpg

TheMaestro
02-17-2020, 02:25 PM
Double.

TheMaestro
02-17-2020, 02:25 PM
I love "speedy Gonzales"..



https://i.imgur.com/YRfzKZS.gif

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 03:41 PM
I would say Mexico has greater potential

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 04:15 PM
Why are you so curious about Mexico? This is like your third thread.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?310227-Mexico-A-Failed-State-On-America%92s-Southern-Border
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?313035-Mexico-should-stop-the-Drug-War

Just came from there during holiday and became very interested in the affairs of the country. And my best uni friend is an international student from Yucatan, an ethnic Mayan, and we talk about politics, Current affairs and economics all the time.

Blondie
02-17-2020, 04:18 PM
I like Mexico, their food is great ;)

Kyp
02-17-2020, 04:19 PM
Africa is safer

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 04:23 PM
Africa is safer

Which region?

Blondie
02-17-2020, 04:29 PM
Africa is safer

I don't think that.

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 04:52 PM
I don't think that.

Which region has more potential to become an industralized nation?

Rᴜᴛʜʟᴇss
02-17-2020, 04:57 PM
I couldn't care less about their chances to be industrialized. All I advocate for is shiping Blacks to Africa and deporting every single Mestizo who crossed the border legally or ilegally. This is a White nation.

Blondie
02-17-2020, 05:14 PM
Which region has more potential to become an industralized nation?

Mexico for sure

Teutone
02-17-2020, 05:21 PM
Mexico is alright

I understand that Mexicans living in the USA act as Mexican nationalists are annoying af tho

diaspora nationalists are all annoying tho

Ülev
02-17-2020, 05:25 PM
Africa, my beloved continent

Carlito's Way
02-17-2020, 08:55 PM
Africa is a continent that has over 30 countries
Mexico is a NATION

comparing a nation to a continent is just dumb lol


Africa is richer in resources, that is a big FACT
There are also nations in Africa that have a higher per capita than Mexico, that is also a FACT

But all nations in Africa lack behind a lot of things that Mexico has, even Africa's richest nation could never compete against Mexico
Mexico is also part of the "Newly industrialized country" category



Mexico owns Latin America for the record
Comparing Africa with Mexico is like comparing Mexico with Haiti
I do wish for African nations to be great, they have a lot of potential, sadly there is too much greed and corruption
even in Angola, when I traveled there, there are nice developed areas but it still lacks behind Mexico in so many things, a lot of their roads are just bad, their infrastructure is horrible
tons of extreme poverty, with a tiny minority ruling and robbing the nation from its wealth

Carlito's Way
02-17-2020, 09:00 PM
I love mama Africa so much, I hope they end up being a rich continent in every sense of the word
I was also happy to know that Mexico would be investing in some African nations such as Ghana, made me very happy so see us helping our ancestors, our people, we black asf, one drop rule still active

Rocinante
02-17-2020, 09:02 PM
I love mama Africa so much, I hope they end up being a rich continent in every sense of the word
I was also happy to know that Mexico would be investing in some African nations such as Ghana, made me very happy so see us helping our ancestors, our people, we black asf, one drop rule still active

Are you partly african?

Carlito's Way
02-17-2020, 09:09 PM
Are you partly african?

I have Angolan colonial roots, I am an original
an original black mexican means, that my blackness is pure colonial in origin

do you have black ancestry?

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 09:11 PM
I couldn't care less about their chances to be industrialized. All I advocate for is shiping Blacks to Africa and deporting every single Mestizo who crossed the border legally or ilegally. This is a White nation.

You look like a med varg vikanes. Are you of italian decent

Synapsid
02-17-2020, 09:12 PM
Mexico is alright

I understand that Mexicans living in the USA act as Mexican nationalists are annoying af tho

diaspora nationalists are all annoying tho

Interesting. Which region is more likely to suceed in the future, Mexico or SSA?

Rocinante
02-17-2020, 09:29 PM
I have Angolan colonial roots, I am an original
an original black mexican means, that my blackness is pure colonial in origin

do you have black ancestry?

Interesting mate. In G25 i never get SSA so I don't think so, would be interesting though.

Kamal900
02-18-2020, 03:16 AM
Mexico obviously.

renaissance12
02-18-2020, 04:28 AM
Poor Africa. It needs at least 2 generations to become like China today and 1 generation to become like India today...

Cristiano viejo
02-18-2020, 04:35 AM
Poor Africa. It needs at least 2 generations to become like China today and 1 generation to become like India today...

You meant 20 and 10.

renaissance12
02-18-2020, 04:49 AM
You meant 20 and 10.

I'm more positive than you

Cristiano viejo
02-18-2020, 05:20 AM
I'm more positive than you

I was being very positive.

Smeagol
02-18-2020, 05:25 AM
You meant 20 and 10.

More realistically, never.

luc2112
02-18-2020, 06:15 AM
Poor Africa. It needs at least 2 generations to become like China today and 1 generation to become like India today...

China (mongol) not is low IQ. IMHO: With that birth rate, many African countries will fall back.

Synapsid
02-18-2020, 04:16 PM
Mexico is alright

I understand that Mexicans living in the USA act as Mexican nationalists are annoying af tho

diaspora nationalists are all annoying tho
What is the German diaspora like?

Synapsid
02-18-2020, 04:17 PM
More realistically, never.

So Mexico got more potential?

Synapsid
02-18-2020, 04:17 PM
Mexico obviously.

Why?

Cristiano viejo
02-18-2020, 06:45 PM
Why?

They some Spanish blood while Africans lack.

Kamal900
02-19-2020, 01:29 AM
Why?

Africa is pretty much more chaotic than Mexico really which is much more exploitable by the greedy corporation who install puppets in many African countries for their own wealth at the expense of the native Africans, you know?

WeißerJunge
02-19-2020, 03:28 PM
Depends on the individual African state. Some African countries have already figured out not to fight each other like colonial powers want them to, and I have a lot of faith in those nations. Others are still being divided and going through ethnic and religious civil wars. Mexicans, while they already have a decent infrastructure compared to most African countries, lacks a strong national identity and goal like all other multiracial Latin American countries. You can't succeed in the 21st century if you model your economy in the idea of exploiting Natives and Mestizos to cash in more wealth for the Blancos in the minority. That's not a sustainable model when you have giants like China with a very strong sense of ethnic unity to compete with. Wish the best for African countries and Mexico, but they sure have a lot to improve on socially so they can really improve economically.

sean
05-17-2020, 04:42 AM
Only Botswana is one of Africa's biggest success stories. It has a comparable population and resources to neighbouring Zimbabwe, but with a much much higher level of economic freedom. This economic freedom over the last 50 years has led to them being one of the least developed countries in Africa to one of the most, with a GDP per capita rivalling South Africa. Right now their HDI is that of about Mexico's, and currently Botswana boasts the longest standing democracy on the continent.

However, most of Africa is now like Mexico where you have a wealthy elite ruling class, a massive poverty class that keeps shitting out poverty-babies, and not much in between. So they handle this overpopulation of poverty-babies by telling them to fuck off, go to other nations, and be someone else's problems.

Duffmannn
05-21-2020, 03:48 PM
Mexico has a way better genetical base than Africa, and borders the USA (but it will never become a prosperous and pacific place, it will be a shithole)

Africa has any capacity of nothing, they have been exploded by anyone who has gone there (arab muslims, northafricans, europeans from many origins, and now chinese), they always will be the most profound shithole on the earth and their development will depend on foreing powers.

dydyflorent36
05-21-2020, 06:03 PM
Africa. Comparing a country with a continent is ridiculous.

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raffo
05-22-2020, 06:20 PM
Africa.

Mexico will suffer premature deindustrialisation as its wages aren't competitive enough. Africa is going to benefit massively from decoupling of the US-China economies after covid when a lot of manafacturing will move there from China & SEA.

Synapsid
05-22-2020, 06:23 PM
Mexico has a way better genetical base than Africa, and borders the USA (but it will never become a prosperous and pacific place, it will be a shithole)

Africa has any capacity of nothing, they have been exploded by anyone who has gone there (arab muslims, northafricans, europeans from many origins, and now chinese), they always will be the most profound shithole on the earth and their development will depend on foreing powers.

What you mean by genetic base?

Synapsid
05-22-2020, 06:24 PM
Africa.

Mexico will suffer premature deindustrialisation as its wages aren't competitive enough. Africa is going to benefit massively from decoupling of the US-China economies after covid when a lot of manafacturing will move there from China & SEA.

Mexico has more insane social stratification and classism but seem be more industrial than Africa

Synapsid
05-22-2020, 06:39 PM
Temma, why did you unlike my comment?

raffo
05-23-2020, 12:30 PM
Mexico has more insane social stratification and classism but seem be more industrial than Africa

Africa's plentiful low-wage labour just makes it seem inevitable that eventually the "global factory" will move there from East Asia. Three (Rwanda, Senegal, Ethiopia) of the five fastest growing economies are in Africa. In a few years time, Mexico won't even have a sustainable population and will be aging rapidly. Mexico's largest industry is car manafacturing, and there is a global shift of auto production to India.

The Mexican Drug War risks going the way of the Colombian conflict as the cartels increasingly have a political affiliation. Some present themselves as religious-conservative, others as socialist etc. None of Africa's ongoing conflicts are currently claiming anywhere near as many lives as the Mexican Drug War.

Synapsid
05-23-2020, 01:08 PM
Africa's plentiful low-wage labour just makes it seem inevitable that eventually the "global factory" will move there from East Asia. Three (Rwanda, Senegal, Ethiopia) of the five fastest growing economies are in Africa. In a few years time, Mexico won't even have a sustainable population and will be aging rapidly. Mexico's largest industry is car manafacturing, and there is a global shift of auto production to India.

The Mexican Drug War risks going the way of the Colombian conflict as the cartels increasingly have a political affiliation. Some present themselves as religious-conservative, others as socialist etc. None of Africa's ongoing conflicts are currently claiming anywhere near as many lives as the Mexican Drug War.

Yeah, Ethiopia is actively pursuing an export oriented industrial policy in the manner that poor East Asian nations like Korea and China did. Do think the problems in Mexico is more visceral and deeper than drug violence, something do with the cultural and casta system?

Jana
05-23-2020, 01:29 PM
Mexico is among most violent countries in the world. Yes Africa apart from war zones like Congo and Somalia is safer than Mexico. Which tells a lot.

raffo
05-23-2020, 03:21 PM
Do think the problems in Mexico is more visceral and deeper than drug violence, something do with the cultural and casta system?

Yes, I think that's fair. Marginalised peoples often do gravitate towards organized crime. Look at the disproportionate membership of Burakumin (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burakumin#Yakuza_membership) (the "untouchables" of the Japanese caste system) and Koreans in the Japanese Yakuza, for example. On the other hand, the Mayan majority Yucatan peninsula is actually one of the least affected areas by cartel violence. So I don't know if it is that simple.

Hawkguy
05-23-2020, 03:41 PM
The economic and social problems in both Mexico and Africa were the result of several historical factors, including influences from countries that nowadays have hegemony in the western economic scenario. If there is no change in the current socioeconomic model, it does not help much. Rich countries will remain rich and the poor will remain poor. The best would be to invest in education and change the current model of development. I am not an expert in Africa or Mexico, but many African countries only serve as the world's breadbasket. The cocoa of the delicious Belgian or Swiss chocolate comes from practically slave labor in Africa and so on.

Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ
05-23-2020, 03:43 PM
The economic and social problems in both Mexico and Africa were the result of several historical factors, including influences from countries that nowadays have hegemony in the western economic scenario. If there is no change in the current socioeconomic model, it does not help much. Rich countries will remain rich and the poor will remain poor. The best would be to invest in education and change the current model of development. I am not an expert in Africa or Mexico, but many African countries only serve as the world's breadbasket. The cocoa of the delicious Belgian or Swiss chocolate comes from practically slave labor in Africa and so on.

Don't forget their low intelligence, proven by several tests conducted around the world.

luc2112
05-29-2020, 12:35 AM
Yeah, Ethiopia is actively pursuing an export oriented industrial policy in the manner that poor East Asian nations like Korea and China did. Do think the problems in Mexico is more visceral and deeper than drug violence, something do with the cultural and casta system?
Nope, interesting are the statistics of the dominican republic that reached full employment and the homicide rate fell. South Africa is very violent, but has 30% unemployment (and people with some money). Mexico in problems with theft, trafficking and drug use

LorenzoSpitaleri
07-09-2020, 06:03 AM
Mexico. Any chance of Africa being prosperous was gone after Gaddafi died.

Ghost Dance
08-19-2020, 03:57 PM
Yeah, violence is a big issue, but it's mostly in the northern states. And it is not new, it goes back to the XIX actually, when the americans were exchanging guns for horses with the comanches & apaches, when the americans invaded our country they found out the north was destroyed & devastated by the comanches-apaches raids. Today, dollars have replaced horses.

The whole north has always been a wild west, it's probably the harsh dry conditions. No aztec blood in the north, so it's stupid to claim modern day violence stems from aztecs, lmao. :picard2: