Do you consider Slavs to be white?

[Trouble]

East Slavs I mean. I personally feel they should not be considered white because they are culturally so distinct from western Europeans. Russians despite not being genomically or physically too different from English are a world away in terms of culture.

I won't even get into Balkan people, it's not even a question that theyre not white. Except Greeks.

[Viridian1]

So maybe the westerners arent "white" then.

[Bosniensis]

Why except Greeks, they resemble Egypt.

[Voskos]

East Slavs I mean. I personally feel they should not be considered white because they are culturally so distinct from western Europeans. Russians despite not being genomically or physically too different from English are a world away in terms of culture.

Russians are white.not that different from the English as you said. Well, except the escort professionals which are a disgrace.
On the other hand don't know about balkanites. You know, E-V13 , gypsies , muslims and all that.

[Bosniensis]

Russians are white.not that different from the English as you said. Well, except the escort professionals which are a disgrace.
On the other hand don't know about balkanites. You know, E-V13 , gypsies , muslims and all that.

Nobody here wants to be "White"

We are not Germanics.

[Jana]

Why is Indian opening troll threads about Slavs? Mind your own brown people.

[Voskos]

Nobody here wants to be "White"

We are not Germanics.

Germanics are sort of the lowest of all whites, they were even called Huns at some point. Slavs are way above them.

[Bosniensis]

Germanics are sort of the lowest of all whites, they were even called Huns at some point. Slavs are way above them.

Screw them both.

[Aldaris]

The last label I would care about - that stuff is for the actual non-whites. If you understand 'white' in respect of closeness to Western Europeans and that's it, you're gonna confuse a lot of people, since, well, nobody uses that in this way. Redefining terms which are agreed upon for the most part is a smokescreen. Just saying.

[Blondie]

Why is Indian opening troll threads about Slavs? Mind your own brown people.

Real whites are north indians :rotfl::rotfl:

[Voskos]

Why is Indian opening troll threads about Slavs? Mind your own brown people.

that's kinda racist, no offense. indians are indoeuropean people too.

[pajkosbalna]

And who decides what counts as that or not, eastern or western? Besides the term white as used here is not based on culture i think, so the question itself is not very clear, at least to me. Like what counts as vegetable, apple or pear...
I guess this is not serious :)

[Kamal900]

Why is Indian opening troll threads about Slavs? Mind your own brown people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll0GCPFpNQs

You know what's so great about India? Is that you can literally pee and shit anywhere.

[Voskos]

You know what's so great about India? Is that you can literally pee and shit anywhere.

i think what the OP means is Slavic culture/civilization has totally different foundations from the western one. but that has nothing to do with whiteness.

[Trouble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll0GCPFpNQs

You know what's so great about India? Is that you can literally pee and shit anywhere.

That’s news to me. I have been there and only ever saw small kids doing that.

[Trouble]

that's kinda racist, no offense. indians are indoeuropean people too.

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.

[Viridian1]

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.

It happened already. The Aryans came from today's Russia.

[Pribislav]

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixkd9phZX4g

[Viridian1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixkd9phZX4g

Dunno if it's true
https://i.ibb.co/FWqdgHn/Ob-ZHbxus3-Va-To-Sas-CEHns-BDI4h-HWIm-P6-Rv1w-Vt9wp-k.jpg (https://ibb.co/LPhsnNv)

[KirillMazur]

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.
If this similarity once existed, now it is almost gone - your language and culture are too dravidized at the moment (the caste system is imperfect), and for the average person the similarities between the Russians and Indians are not obvious, except for very obvious things, like jumping over a fire .
And our culture is partially forgotten, partially Americanized, which also does not please.
In the past, the similarities were obviously greater (if we count what official historians say is truth, of course).

[Pribislav]

Indo-Aryans (R1a-Z93) came to the India from southern Russian and Ukrainian stepes. They brought Sanskrit, Hinduism and caste system.
http://mnabievart.com/oldwebsite/old/info_mn/img/article_15.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2f/a7/39/2fa739160d49273e6279b278d8fa6711--central-asia-antropology.jpg

[Ülev]

Dunno if it's true
https://i.ibb.co/FWqdgHn/Ob-ZHbxus3-Va-To-Sas-CEHns-BDI4h-HWIm-P6-Rv1w-Vt9wp-k.jpg (https://ibb.co/LPhsnNv)

man, these in every Slavic so called "dialects"

[Jana]

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.

You share nothing with Slavs culturally, Anglos are far closer to you and that is why you speak English and drive on the left side of the road.

[Ülev]

^^
only the Poles use sanskrit and even do not realise that, other Slavs have only 20% common vocabulary with polish language

all Slavs laugh at polish "prze"/"pshe", but no one knows from where it comes

polish word for excuse me / sorry is przepraszam - pshe prasham

polish word pshe/prze means great, bigger

sanskrit word prasham -->
Name Prasham generally means Peace, is of Indian origin, Name Prasham is a Masculine (or Boy) name. Person with name Prasham are mainly Hindu by religion. Name Prasham belongs to rashi Kanya (Virgo) .
http://www.indiachildnames.com/name.aspx?name=Prasham
and what should do person after quarell etc? - should try to make bigger/greater peace - pshe + prasham = psheprasham / przepraszam

:rolleyes:

[Ülev]

Agnie - fire, some Slavs use word ogień (pl), ohen (cz), ogon (ru), Croatians use word vatra (from Avesta)

but only Poles use word - zagniewać - z agnie wać - z agnie wati -and it means irritate/infuriate/exasperate

and what do man when is angry / irritate? - he/she burning in flames/fire

agnie wati from Vedas means to be fire's word / to call yourself fire

Czechs don't use word zagniewać but hnevat, Russians - serditsa

[Jana]

i think what the OP means is Slavic culture/civilization has totally different foundations from the western one. but that has nothing to do with whiteness.

No, it doesn't, because there is no Slavic culture. Catholic and Protestant Slavs are culturally more western than Greeks or Romanians. Only muslim Slavs are not culturally western.
Orthodox Slavs aren't culturally Western Christian, but they are still part of wider western world.

[Pribislav]

Agnie - fire, some Slavs use word ogień (pl), ohen (cz), ogon (ru), Croatians use word vatra (from Avesta)

but only Poles use word - zagniewać - z agnie wać - z agnie wati -and it means irritate/infuriate/exasperate

and what do man when is angry / irritate? - he/she burning in flames/fire

agnie wati from Vedas means to be fire's word / to call yourself fire

Czechs don't use word zagniewać but hnevat, Russians - serditsa

Except vatra for fire Serbs also say Oganj (oganj is related with agnie) https://recnik.krstarica.com/?text=&text=Oganj&conversion=&src=sr&dst=en&do=1

[Voskos]

No, it doesn't, because there is no Slavic culture. Catholic and Protestant Slavs are culturally more western than Greeks or Romanians. Only muslim Slavs are not culturally western.
Orthodox Slavs aren't culturally Western Christian, but they are still part of wider western world.

catholic slavs still speak a satem language and have eastern european influences so not really comparable to belgium/england etc.


there is no Slavic culture

i disagree.

[Ülev]

Except vatra for fire Serbs also say Oganj (oganj is related with agnie) https://recnik.krstarica.com/?text=&text=Oganj&conversion=&src=sr&dst=en&do=1

do you use word "zagniewać" - here is the essence, be angry in Serbian? - ljuti se, is there any other word with "agnie" root?

[Mikula]

Do you consider Slavs to be white? = Do you consider Pope as a Catholic?

[RandomGuy20]

"White" was a term created by the English a couple hundred years back to describe NW Europeans.
Slavs are native Europeans of course.

[Ülev]

As I read on wikipedia:
सु - (su-) eu- Sanskrit सुभाग्य (subhāgya) = good-fortune; सुस्वर = (susvar) = euphonious
prefix "su" ---> good; well; easily; normal

and in polish language:

su\wać (su-vati?) - slide

o\su\wać (o-su-vati?) +/- put off

u\su\wać (u-su-vati?) - remove

etc. and could it be correlate with easily work

___

so only the Poles are sons or fathers of "Ross Beaumonts" of all kinds

[Pribislav]

do you use word "zagniewać" - here is the essence, be angry in Serbian? - ljuti se, is there any other word with "agnie" root?

We have name Ognjen (came from oganj - fire) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ognjen_Kuzmić

Also we have surnames Ognjenović and Ognjanović.

[Ülev]

We have name Ognjen (came from oganj - fire) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ognjen_Kuzmić

Also we have surnames Ognjenović and Ognjanović.

and many Africans took names like Jessica or Pamela -that does not make them English

[MysteriousWays]

Yea of course. This is a really, really silly question.

[Mikula]

"White" was a term created by the English a couple hundred years back to describe NW Europeans.
Slavs are native Europeans of course.

Perhaps. But even if we accept the WASP viewpoint:
I read tens of old American documents of people who emigrated to the USA from Europe,
and all of them (includes Slavs) had written term "Race: white", there.

[Voskos]

and many Africans took names like Jessica or Pamela -that does not make them English

it kinda does at the end of the day.

[Ülev]

and Polish language was "Slavicised" but still close to the language of Balts - core of IE language
I read many times you complained polish language as weirdest etc. - it's because of what I wrote earlier

[Dorian]

Yes ,all except bosnia,croatia&skopje

[Ülev]

again
because in word zAGNIEwać (z Agnie wati) you have something more, hidden meaning (san skrit in polish hidden yourself) skryty (skrit) means hidden
Agnie - fire, some Slavs use word ogień (pl), ohen (cz), ogon (ru), Croatians use word vatra (from Avesta)

but only Poles use word - zagniewać - z agnie wać - z agnie wati -and it means irritate/infuriate/exasperate

and what do man when is angry / irritate? - he/she burning in flames/fire



nothing common with rotten / molder etc. (like official theory claims of that word meaning origin)

word "wati" from san(m)skrit still exist in polish language ("wać") as part of word, and could means something like "to transmite/carry something

The word wati is not used as a single word but like this
Saubhagya-vati = girl with good fortune

Roop wati= a girl with beauty

nd in polish language:

su\wać (su-vati?) - slide

o\su\wać (o-su-vati?) +/- put off

u\su\wać (u-su-vati?) - remove

[Pro.crasti.nation]

Yes. Next.

[Tauromachos]

Lol Slavs are like Indians with white skincolor

[Jana]

catholic slavs still speak a satem language and have eastern european influences so not really comparable to belgium/england etc.

i disagree.

How is the fact they speak satem language affecting them culturally?

[RandomGuy20]

Lol Slavs are like Indians with white skincolor

:picard2:

[Regnera]

Yes.

[Creoda]

What's more annoying than troll threads like this are the idiots that always chip in with the ridiculous narrative that whiteness was 'invented' a few hundred years ago by the English or Spanish. I guarantee that Europeans have been calling foreigners black/dark, and themselves white/light, for many thousands of years, just as every child can easily discern the difference before education.

[Benyzero]

What's more annoying than troll threads like this are the idiots that always chip in with their ridiculous narrative that whiteness was 'invented' a few hundred years ago by the English or Spanish. I guarantee that Europeans have been calling foreigners black/dark, and themselves white/light, for many thousands of years, just as every child can easily discern the difference before education.

autistic

[Magnolia]

Light pink, soft and plushy. yummy

[Dick]

Lol Slavs are like Indians with white skincolor

Happy I’m not R1a

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2015/11/indian%20gold%20shirt_0.jpg

[Renekton]

Yes

[Arsen_]

Agnie - fire, some Slavs use word ogień (pl), ohen (cz), ogon (ru), Croatians use word vatra (from Avesta)

but only Poles use word - zagniewać - z agnie wać - z agnie wati -and it means irritate/infuriate/exasperate

and what do man when is angry / irritate? - he/she burning in flames/fire

agnie wati from Vedas means to be fire's word / to call yourself fire

Czechs don't use word zagniewać but hnevat, Russians - serditsa

In Russian "разгневаться" - "get angry"

[Voskos]

How is the fact they speak satem language affecting them culturally?

Idk i thought it did. Anyway, I do not want to question the westerness of croats. let's end this debate .

[Pribislav]

and many Africans took names like Jessica or Pamela -that does not make them English

What is point here?

Serbian name Ognjen came from Serbian word oganj which means fire, it's not connected with India.
Serbian oganj and Sanskrit agni both originated from proto-Indoeuropean.

Another Ognjen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ognjen_Jaramaz

Everyday Serbian word for fire is vatra. Oganj is more archaic and it is mostly use in poetry, in the deeper past it was everyday word like vatra today.

We also have Ognjište, this is Ognjište https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fireplace

[TheMaestro]

As if being westerner is considered as a requirement of being white, lol.

[Epirus DNA]

What shade of white? I'd say PALE AF because they don't tan. They burn.

If you don't Tan, and you burn. You're WHITE. If you Tan, you're not White.

[Ülev]

What shade of white? I'd say PALE AF because they don't tan. They burn.

If you don't tan, and you burn. You're WHITE. If you Tan, you're not White.

i don't get tan
https://a.uguu.se/mqwLBjAL7njE.jpg
I am red skinned Amerindian :cool:

[River Plate]

What shade of white? I'd say PALE AF because they don't tan. They burn.

If you don't Tan, and you burn. You're WHITE. If you Tan, you're not White.

So half of the Europe is not white?

[Ülev]

So half of the Europe is not white?

yes

[Cumansky]

If someone calls me white, in the inside I am furious that is undermining my whole history and saying I am level with you, this is BS

At the same time if someone calls me white, OK, my foot is now in the door to scam them

[River Plate]

yes

Interesting. Which countries?

[Ülev]

Interesting. Which countries?

wrongly asked question, white and the others lives in every country, Europe is diverse already





















(just kidding)

[Blondie]

So half of the Europe is not white?

Native europeans are all whites.

[pulstar]

Its fine for me, I'm a pink skin

[Daos777]

We are better than white. We are HUwhiiiittttteee

[Cumansky]

We are better than white. We are HUwhiiiittttteee

What is that from the boondocks, don't watch those satan shows they brainwash heavy

[RandomGuy20]

I guarantee that Europeans have been calling foreigners black/dark, and themselves white/light, for many thousands of years, just as every child can easily discern the difference before education.

Many north Chinese are just as pale/white as Anglos

[Cumansky]

Many north Chinese are just as pale/white as Anglos

If you take Muslim woman with hijab, and put her in Canada winter she looks White with a slight jaundice but what it say about her race? Nothing

If you take Black and put in the winter they will go white too, is called ashy skin, a cold adaptation that is it

These niggas will jack off to cold adaptations for 16 hours a day wow success life

[Epirus DNA]

So half of the Europe is not white?

Yeah. As a Greek, the way I see white is people who are actually so White, the don't Tan. They just get Sun Burnt and Red. LOL It's not scientific or anything. Just my personal stupidity.

[Daos777]

What is that from the boondocks, don't watch those satan shows they brainwash heavy

I can’t stop watching. Satan won’t let me.

[Epirus DNA]

Native europeans are all whites.

What constitutes a native? Like what year? 2500 BCE ? We are so mixed as of 500 BC - 500 AD

[Decius]

They are. The concept of the white race was a term coined by the Spanish. Its used to classify all people of European origin.

[Daos777]

What constitutes a native? Like what year? 2500 BCE ? We are so mixed as of 500 BC - 500 AD

A true european is 50 percent Yamnaya, 20 percent WHG, and 30 percent Barcin. It’s that simple. The more barcin increases the woggier you get and at a certain point you’re a Turkish Anatolian who is confused about their identity.

[Cumansky]

I can’t stop watching. Satan won’t let me.

Aite nigga do your thing

[Cumansky]

They are. The concept of the white race was a term coined by the Spanish. Its used to classify all people of European origin.

And they think are White too, but they are like me Semitic at their root

[Epirus DNA]

A true european is 50 percent Yamnaya, 20 percent WHG, and 30 percent Barcin. It’s that simple. The more barcin increases the woggier you get and at a certain point you’re a Turkish Anatolian who is confused about their identity.

:rotfl:

A True European... needs a Greek to Educate them.

[Daos777]

:rotfl:

A True European... needs a Greek to Educate them.

It was the other way around. When the Yamnaya scholars came to Greece that’s when culture began there :p

[Vlatko Vukovic]

I personally feel they should not be considered white because they are culturally so distinct from western Europeans.

"White" is not cultural determination but racial, so yes, East Slavs are White, also are Southern Slavs as well. They all have white caucasoid faces, so they are white.

[Dorian]

It was the other way around. When the Yamnaya scholars came to Greece that’s when culture began there :p

https://error404.gulas.sme.sk/upload/posts/1/55/55841/large_extra/cd18ebd40fce109d8fd18cd145a167ec.png

[Trouble]

You share nothing with Slavs culturally, Anglos are far closer to you and that is why you speak English and drive on the left side of the road.

Maybe not me cause I’m westernized but those in the old country do

[Trouble]

It happened already. The Aryans came from today's Russia.

They weren’t Russians as we know them today. Russian ethnicity came to be after Kievan Rus.

[Ülev]

Russian-Indian connection this time


https://youtu.be/jUZO0zpHhOA

:p

[Viridian1]

They weren’t Russians as we know them today. Russian ethnicity came to be after Kievan Rus.

I said they came from TODAY'S Russia.

[Viçwāmitra]

One connection i noticed today.

I was leading crusade to Lithuania and i was checking out stats of their religion and noticed that their God is called Dievas that is similar to Devas of Hinduism.

Also their evil god is Velas that's another name of Vala/Vela or Dragon that Indra killed in Rigveda.

[Westbrook]

Germanics are sort of the lowest of all whites, they were even called Huns at some point. Slavs are way above them.

https://i.imgur.com/HUnZGWr.gif

[Ülev]

One connection i noticed today.

I was leading crusade to Lithuania and i was checking out stats of their religion and noticed that their God is called Dievas that is similar to Devas of Hinduism.

Also their evil god is Velas that's another name of Vala/Vela or Dragon that Indra killed in Rigveda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuva_(religion)

[alpha.ghot]

You are right. Only Germanics are the real White.

[Anaximander]

Why except Greeks, they resemble Egypt.

Greeks look nothing like Egyptians... Are u a mullah or something?

[Viçwāmitra]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romuva_(religion)

Yes that one, are you Slavic btw?

[щрбл]

Indians are whiter:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahdvo70fRhk

:rofl_002:

[Voskos]

https://i.imgur.com/HUnZGWr.gif

Whether you like it or not ,German ''civilization'' is looked down upon in many parts of Europe.For example you'd be surprised by how many old British voted for Brexit just because they didn't want to share a union with Germans.

[Bosniensis]

Greeks look nothing like Egyptians... Are u a mullah or something?

Grand Mullah

[Karol Klačansky]

White is a stupid term, I consider Russians still a European people with some Asian influence culturally.

[Westbrook]

You're right that would surprise me.
Whether you like it or not ,German ''civilization'' is looked down upon in many parts of Europe.For example you'd be surprised by how many old British voted for Brexit just because they didn't want to share a union with Germans.

[Voskos]

You're right that would surprise me.

no surprise.

[anaise]

I think about "slavs" and "slavic" more like a linguistic term. I consider these people Caucasian/White taken as a group, but I've seen a lot of Slavs with ambiguous phenotypes, Asian inflenced or MENA influenced. But they are mainly more than 90% European, from what I've seen from genetic tests.

[Corporate_Demolisher]

We have far more in common with Slavs than we do with Anglos. We share haplogroups and Balto-Slavic languages are highly similar to Sanskrit. Many of their names/words sound the same. The Indo Iranian ancestors of us were a Central Russian like people who lived near the Urals.

If only Russians colonized us instead.

Well it's not in the Slavic moral fabric to colonize others. It's a good thing Indians are not flooding their countries like Anglo ones in the West. Because they actually have a culture, Anglos don't have a culture so they need to import Indians to show them culture.

[Corporate_Demolisher]

They are. The concept of the white race was a term coined by the Spanish. Its used to classify all people of European origin.

Lol no it wasn't, "white" is an Anglo term used to describe anyone not considered WASP some hundreds of years ago

[Corporate_Demolisher]

No, it doesn't, because there is no Slavic culture. Catholic and Protestant Slavs are culturally more western than Greeks or Romanians. Only muslim Slavs are not culturally western.
Orthodox Slavs aren't culturally Western Christian, but they are still part of wider western world.

There is no such thing as "culturally Western". There are multiple fronts of that.

[Dimitri159]

Racially I consider them White Europeans, but culturally I do not consider them Western. They lack the kind of discipline and moral values that Western culture lives by. This is why Western Europeans historically considered Slavic people to be untermensch or “sub-human” so they came up with false pseudo-racial theories. Of course there are some exceptions who are more Western, like Poles, Slovaks and Croatians.