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miarosie3
02-21-2020, 08:08 AM
I’m trying to find out what the other half of my fathers ancestry is because I’m getting told a few different things by a few people, not that I don’t mind, I just really want to get a clear as possible picture.

My maternal ancestry is mostly British which the exception of my great grandfather being Lithuanian/Polish. What I know of my fathers ancestry is that he is likely half Middle Eastern, I know that, but I want to find out what the other half of him is.

Which GEDMatch calculator would suit best for this?

Jana
02-21-2020, 08:10 AM
Try updated Eurogenes K13 on Vahaduo. Works great for me and my partner, even better than G25.

Samnium
02-21-2020, 08:13 AM
G25 is the best, otherwise you could try Dodecad, it isn't that bad.

Avoid Eurogenes K13, K15 etc.

Kyp
02-21-2020, 08:14 AM
Eurogenes EUtest

Impaler
02-21-2020, 08:38 AM
Eurogenes EUtest

This one? :D


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.1% AT + 36.9% IR @ 6.33
2 67.1% AT + 32.9% Mandean @ 6.4
3 64.2% AT + 35.8% Kurdish @ 6.63
4 66.3% AT + 33.7% Assyrian @ 6.76
5 66% AT + 34% IQ @ 6.99
6 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% IR @ 7.1
7 69.2% AT + 30.8% Druze @ 7.14
8 60.3% AT + 39.7% TR @ 7.27
9 80.6% Serbian + 19.4% Brahui @ 7.29
10 81% Serbian + 19% Balochi @ 7.4
11 76% Serbian + 24% Kurdish @ 7.54
12 63.2% GR + 36.8% North_Swedish @ 7.56
13 77.3% Serbian + 22.7% IQ @ 7.56
14 78.5% Serbian + 21.5% Mandean @ 7.58
15 57.1% FR + 42.9% IR @ 7.59
16 65.6% GR + 34.4% South_Finnish @ 7.59
17 82% RO + 18% Brahui @ 7.73
18 72.9% Serbian + 27.1% TR @ 7.74
19 82.3% RO + 17.7% Balochi @ 7.79
20 78% Serbian + 22% Assyrian @ 7.8

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 08:40 AM
G25 is the best, otherwise you could try Dodecad, it isn't that bad.

Avoid Eurogenes K13, K15 etc.

Which Dodecad calculator?

Dušan
02-21-2020, 08:47 AM
For me K36 give the best map, but I like K13 too.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 08:49 AM
For me K36 give the best map, but I like K13 too.

I tried that but I’m being told it’s no use for someone with mixed ancestry

Kyp
02-21-2020, 09:05 AM
This one? :D


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.1% AT + 36.9% IR @ 6.33
2 67.1% AT + 32.9% Mandean @ 6.4
3 64.2% AT + 35.8% Kurdish @ 6.63
4 66.3% AT + 33.7% Assyrian @ 6.76
5 66% AT + 34% IQ @ 6.99
6 74.6% Serbian + 25.4% IR @ 7.1
7 69.2% AT + 30.8% Druze @ 7.14
8 60.3% AT + 39.7% TR @ 7.27
9 80.6% Serbian + 19.4% Brahui @ 7.29
10 81% Serbian + 19% Balochi @ 7.4
11 76% Serbian + 24% Kurdish @ 7.54
12 63.2% GR + 36.8% North_Swedish @ 7.56
13 77.3% Serbian + 22.7% IQ @ 7.56
14 78.5% Serbian + 21.5% Mandean @ 7.58
15 57.1% FR + 42.9% IR @ 7.59
16 65.6% GR + 34.4% South_Finnish @ 7.59
17 82% RO + 18% Brahui @ 7.73
18 72.9% Serbian + 27.1% TR @ 7.74
19 82.3% RO + 17.7% Balochi @ 7.79
20 78% Serbian + 22% Assyrian @ 7.8

Try Vahaduo

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 09:05 AM
In gedmatch use k36, k15 and k13. If you have the chance, use G25 too.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 09:25 AM
In gedmatch use k36, k15 and k13. If you have the chance, use G25 too.

Eurogenes isn’t the best for me

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 09:35 AM
It works for you because you are caucasian. Can i see your K36?

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:04 AM
Which Dodecad calculator?
K12b. It has a great deal of similarity with Harappa.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:05 AM
It’s just what I got used to being told, that it wouldn’t work for me because of my Middle Eastern Ancestry. I also tried out the k15 plot map. But here’s my k36.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:05 AM
It works for you because you are caucasian. Can i see your K36?

https://ibb.co/CtVSNRX Here sorry I didn’t send the link the with text aha

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:06 AM
K12b. It has a great deal of similarity with Harappa.

Is the site down? It keeps saying it’s under maintenance every time I try to load the page? One minute it’s working and the next it’s not

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:11 AM
Is the site down? It keeps saying it’s under maintenance every time I try to load the page? One minute it’s working and the next it’s not
I've logged in from the phone and it's working. Your MDLP K23

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 31.61
2 Caucasian 23.91
3 European_Early_Farmers 19.2
4 Near_East 7.84
5 South_Central_Asian 5.2
6 North_African 4.15
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.35
8 East_African 2.11
9 Melano_Polynesian 1.33
10 Australoid 0.8
11 Archaic_African 0.3
12 East_Siberian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian ( ) 7.47
2 German ( ) 7.92
3 North_German ( ) 8.68
4 German_East ( ) 8.92
5 German-Volga ( ) 9.04
6 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.64
7 South_German ( ) 9.74
8 Hungarian ( ) 9.93
9 Dutch ( ) 10.16
10 Dane ( ) 10.27
11 Slovenian ( ) 10.42
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.83
13 Czech ( ) 11.01
14 Slovak ( ) 11.4
15 Swede ( ) 11.82
16 Finn_West ( ) 12.09
17 Kashub ( ) 12.16
18 Belgian ( ) 12.87
19 Sorb ( ) 13.02
20 Italian_North ( ) 13.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.1% Dutch ( ) + 25.9% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 2.36
2 72.5% Dutch ( ) + 27.5% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 2.37
3 75.7% North_German ( ) + 24.3% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 2.38
4 77% North_German ( ) + 23% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.38
5 77.2% North_German ( ) + 22.8% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 2.39
6 72.1% Swede ( ) + 27.9% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.44
7 68.1% Swede ( ) + 31.9% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.46
8 73.6% Dutch ( ) + 26.4% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 2.5
9 73.7% Dane ( ) + 26.3% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.52
10 76.8% North_German ( ) + 23.2% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 2.58
11 76.8% North_German ( ) + 23.2% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 2.61
12 73.7% Dutch ( ) + 26.3% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 2.64
13 74% Dutch ( ) + 26% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.65
14 71.3% Dane ( ) + 28.7% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.65
15 75.6% North_German ( ) + 24.4% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 2.67
16 75.2% Dane ( ) + 24.8% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.75
17 74% Dutch ( ) + 26% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 2.77
18 77.2% North_German ( ) + 22.8% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 2.77
19 69% Norwegian_East ( ) + 31% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.79
20 64.7% Norwegian_East ( ) + 35.3% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.8

You're straight up quarter Ayrab and three quarters white :cool:

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 11:14 AM
https://ibb.co/CtVSNRX Here sorry I didn’t send the link the with text aha

I can see you are predominantly english, with a considerable amount of eastern european like polish or Ukrainian, and small hints of middle eastern ancestry.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:14 AM
I've logged in from the phone and it's working. Your MDLP K23

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 31.61
2 Caucasian 23.91
3 European_Early_Farmers 19.2
4 Near_East 7.84
5 South_Central_Asian 5.2
6 North_African 4.15
7 Ancestral_Altaic 3.35
8 East_African 2.11
9 Melano_Polynesian 1.33
10 Australoid 0.8
11 Archaic_African 0.3
12 East_Siberian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian ( ) 7.47
2 German ( ) 7.92
3 North_German ( ) 8.68
4 German_East ( ) 8.92
5 German-Volga ( ) 9.04
6 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.64
7 South_German ( ) 9.74
8 Hungarian ( ) 9.93
9 Dutch ( ) 10.16
10 Dane ( ) 10.27
11 Slovenian ( ) 10.42
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 10.83
13 Czech ( ) 11.01
14 Slovak ( ) 11.4
15 Swede ( ) 11.82
16 Finn_West ( ) 12.09
17 Kashub ( ) 12.16
18 Belgian ( ) 12.87
19 Sorb ( ) 13.02
20 Italian_North ( ) 13.48

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.1% Dutch ( ) + 25.9% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 2.36
2 72.5% Dutch ( ) + 27.5% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 2.37
3 75.7% North_German ( ) + 24.3% Egyptian_Kairo ( ) @ 2.38
4 77% North_German ( ) + 23% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.38
5 77.2% North_German ( ) + 22.8% Egyptian_Cairo ( ) @ 2.39
6 72.1% Swede ( ) + 27.9% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.44
7 68.1% Swede ( ) + 31.9% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.46
8 73.6% Dutch ( ) + 26.4% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 2.5
9 73.7% Dane ( ) + 26.3% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.52
10 76.8% North_German ( ) + 23.2% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 2.58
11 76.8% North_German ( ) + 23.2% Egyptian_Kuwait ( ) @ 2.61
12 73.7% Dutch ( ) + 26.3% Egyptian_Mansoura ( ) @ 2.64
13 74% Dutch ( ) + 26% BedouinA ( ) @ 2.65
14 71.3% Dane ( ) + 28.7% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.65
15 75.6% North_German ( ) + 24.4% Egyptian_Tanta ( ) @ 2.67
16 75.2% Dane ( ) + 24.8% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.75
17 74% Dutch ( ) + 26% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 2.77
18 77.2% North_German ( ) + 22.8% Egyptian_Kafar_Sheikh ( ) @ 2.77
19 69% Norwegian_East ( ) + 31% Palestinian ( ) @ 2.79
20 64.7% Norwegian_East ( ) + 35.3% Jordanian ( ) @ 2.8

You're straight up quarter Ayrab and three quarters white :cool:

Which I already know lol I just wanted to get a more accurate breakdown for my ‘white’ percentage lol

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:15 AM
I can see you are predominantly english, with a considerable amount of eastern european like polish or Ukrainian, and small hints of middle eastern ancestry.

Is the Eastern European just enough to cover one great grandparent though?

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:16 AM
I can see you are predominantly english, with a considerable amount of eastern european like polish or Ukrainian, and small hints of middle eastern ancestry.

Because my maternal ancestry is mainly british apart from a great grandparent that is either polish or Lithuanian

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:25 AM
Which I already know lol I just wanted to get a more accurate breakdown for my ‘white’ percentage lol
He seems to be half Northern European.

Do you have an ambiguous look? Or do you look fully white British?

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 11:27 AM
Is the Eastern European just enough to cover one great grandparent though?

Yes, maybe. It could be a western polish with eastern germanic ancestry, because your north sea it's actually quite high.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:29 AM
He seems to be half Northern European.

Do you have an ambiguous look? Or do you look fully white British?

Dark hair, olive/tanned skin, greeny brown eyes. If that is the case then why do I get a lot for Eastern Euro on k36? I don’t look fully white at all lol I know that he had black hair, dark brown eyes and the same skin tone as me though

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:35 AM
Dark hair, olive/tanned skin, greeny brown eyes. If that is the case then why do I get a lot for Eastern Euro on k36? I don’t look fully white at all lol I know that he had black hair, dark brown eyes and the same skin tone as me though
Cool. I'd like to see you :p ;)
Only quarter Egyptian and still swarthy?!

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:40 AM
Cool. I'd like to see you :p ;)
Only quarter Egyptian and still swarthy?!

Honestly I look like I’ve been adopted haha. My mums side is all blonde hair, pale skin and blue eyes and then there’s me haha

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:42 AM
Yes, maybe. It could be a western polish with eastern germanic ancestry, because your north sea it's actually quite high.

I asked and my great grandfather was definitely born in Lithuania, his parents ethnicity is unknown but there is possibly German ancestry from his side. What about the k15 plot map though, is that any use to me?

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 12:15 PM
Cool. I'd like to see you :p ;)
Only quarter Egyptian and still swarthy?!

So if my make up is mainly European, shouldnt the k15 plot map work for me? Because I would like to try it out again :)

Leto
02-21-2020, 12:47 PM
So if my make up is mainly European, shouldnt the k15 plot map work for me? Because I would like to try it out again :)
I don't know. It's not always accurate for mixed people. Your Egyptian quarter is gonna pull you down south.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 01:42 PM
I don't know. It's not always accurate for mixed people. Your Egyptian quarter is gonna pull you down south.
Hm maybe. I also did some more research for my maternal grandma, her maiden name was Olson which I believe is Danish or Swedish? So her maternal side was not likely 100% European but her paternal side was.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 01:52 PM
Hm maybe. I also did some more research for my maternal grandma, her maiden name was Olson which I believe is Danish or Swedish? So her maternal side was not likely 100% European but her paternal side was.
Not 100% british my bad

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 10:56 PM
I don't know. It's not always accurate for mixed people. Your Egyptian quarter is gonna pull you down south.

I just unlocked my livingdna ethnicity report, would you like to see the estimate?

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:13 PM
I just unlocked my livingdna ethnicity report, would you like to see the estimate?
Why me, lol
You can share it, however I'm not very familiar with that company.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:17 PM
Why me, lol
You can share it, however I'm not very familiar with that company.

Because you’ve been active on my posts and helped me out, it’s okay if you don’t want to though

Leto
02-21-2020, 11:21 PM
Because you’ve been active on my posts and helped me out, it’s okay if you don’t want to though
No, go ahead, I don't mind but better here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?314383-Living-DNA-Update&highlight=LivingDNA
A few people like that test, they would hopefully help you interpret it.

miarosie3
02-21-2020, 11:28 PM
No, go ahead, I don't mind but better here:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?314383-Living-DNA-Update&highlight=LivingDNA
A few people like that test, they would hopefully help you interpret it.

I’ll check that out, thank you :)

65% Britain and Ireland
11.8% Eastern Europe
11.3% South Europe
7.9% Arabia
1.5% North Africa

vbnetkhio
02-21-2020, 11:31 PM
I’ll check that out, thank you :)

65% Britain and Ireland
11.8% Eastern Europe
11.3% South Europe
7.9% Arabia
1.5% North Africa

i think your fathers side is British + middle eastern.

RenaRyuguu
11-03-2021, 05:27 PM
Gedmatch is not my cup of tea. I don't believe I am related to everyone there it's impossible

El_Jibaro
11-08-2021, 09:54 AM
Eurogenes K13, K15, K36 and Dodecad K12b.

Fabricius
09-04-2023, 02:54 AM
For me Eurogenes K15 is the best.

Between Eurogenes K13 and K15, I prefer Eurogenes K15 because it separates the Nordic element from the Atlantic, which I consider very relevant.

For a more general view, I like Eurogenes K9b.

I don't like Eurogenes K36. It's very confusing, it mixes so many elements that it's hard to trace a path to me.