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Samnium
02-21-2020, 10:20 AM
Eurogenes K13 results:

Admix Results (sorted):

East_Med 27.44%
West_Med 23.01%
North_Atlantic 17.99%
West_Asian 12.18%
Baltic 11.32%
Red_Sea 4.89%
South_Asian 0.89%
Sub-Saharan 0.83%
Northeast_African 0.76%
Oceanian 0.68%

# Population (source) Distance
1 Central_Greek 3.99
2 East_Sicilian 4.14
3 West_Sicilian 4.61
4 Greek_Thessaly 5.63
5 Italian_Abruzzo 5.73
6 South_Italian 6.72
7 Ashkenazi 8.2
8 Tuscan 9.03
9 Algerian_Jewish 12.28
10 Italian_Jewish 12.68
11 Sephardic_Jewish 12.83

Eurogenes K36 results:

Italian 26,64%
East Mediterranean 13,12%
Iberian 11,84%
Near Eastern (Middle East + West Asia) 10,14%
West Mediterranean 6,02%
East Balkan 5,87%
Armenian 4,55%
West Caucasian 3,97%
North African 3,11%
North Sea 2,89%
French 2,78%
North Caucasia 2,49%
Volga-Ural 2,23%
Basque 1,28%
Eastern Euro 0,98%
Arabian 0,95%
Eastern Central Euro 0,91%
North Atlantic 0,17%
Oceanian 0,06%

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq5nMCfhBgA

Still closer to Sicilian averages than to Tuscany. Strange.

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 10:37 AM
Low eastern european components in k36, meaning his sicilian side is western. Stable east med in k36 that best represents greeks and not levantines and "not so high" ME/NA components.

Samnium
02-21-2020, 10:40 AM
Low eastern european components in k36, meaning his sicilian side is western. Stable east med in k36 that best represents greeks and not levantines and "not so high" ME/NA components.

Thing is I don't see the Tuscan there. I think his Tuscan side was more southern shifted (not North Tuscany for sure).

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 10:44 AM
Thing is I don't see the Tuscan there. I think his Tuscan side was more southern shifted (not North Tuscany for sure).

How don't you see the tuscan? Scoring 26+% of Italian in k36 it's a thing i never saw in my life. In the forum, user Argentano and me are the highest to score this component who peaks between northwestern Italy and Tuscany. I think IMO that the tuscan is evident.

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 10:46 AM
Now, other evident thing is that is a southern shifted person scoring low NS/NA/FENNOSCANDIAN

Samnium
02-21-2020, 10:47 AM
How don't you see the tuscan? Scoring 26+% of Italian in k36 it's a thing i never saw in my life. In the forum, user Argentano and me are the highest to score this component who peaks between northwestern Italy and Tuscany. I think IMO that the tuscan is evident.

Yeah but I mean see :

East_Med 27.44%
West_Med 23.01%
North_Atlantic 17.99%
West_Asian 12.18%
Baltic 11.32%
Red_Sea 4.89%
South_Asian 0.89%
Sub-Saharan 0.83%
Northeast_African 0.76%
Oceanian 0.68%

He is nearly 45% East Med, West Asian, Red Sea and African/Southern Asian related stuff.

He isn't halfway between a Tuscan and a sicilian, he doesn't even plot in Central Italy.

It's quite strange.

Rocinante
02-21-2020, 10:51 AM
Yeah but I mean see :

East_Med 27.44%
West_Med 23.01%
North_Atlantic 17.99%
West_Asian 12.18%
Baltic 11.32%
Red_Sea 4.89%
South_Asian 0.89%
Sub-Saharan 0.83%
Northeast_African 0.76%
Oceanian 0.68%

He is nearly 45% East Med, West Asian, Red Sea and African/Southern Asian related stuff.

He isn't halfway between a Tuscan and a sicilian, he doesn't even plot in Central Italy.

It's quite strange.

That's why i hate a bit k13. North atlantic and baltic components should be always split in more specific components, like in k15. Also, take in account that the most heterogeneous component in this calc is east med, that should be never take along ME/NA components, it's a bridge between Europe and the ME. Do you have his/her k15?

Samnium
02-21-2020, 10:55 AM
That's why i hate a bit k13. North atlantic and baltic components should be always split in more specific components, like in k15. Also, take in account that the most heterogeneous component in this calc is east med, that should be never take along ME/NA components, it's a bridge between Europe and the ME. Do you have his/her k15?

No I have only these results.

And yes East Med is a bridge and not a full "Levantine" reference.