West Turkish Dodecad K12b distance to Turkish cities

[Hapanuwa]

All of my ancestors are from a village in the Aegean province of Afyonkarahisar as far as I know (atleast the last 200 years)

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Marmara region
Aegean region
Central Anatolia region
Black Sea region
Mediterranean region
Eastern Anatolia region
Southeastern Anatolia region

Distance to: Hapanuwa
3.70122953 Turk_Zonguldak
4.08526621 Turk_Cankiri
4.24113192 Turk_Karabuk
4.84754577 Turk_Ankara
5.27724360 Turk_Eskisehir
5.32200150 Turk_Usak
5.32760734 Turk_Kuhtaya
5.40141648 Turk_Manisa
5.49059195 Turk_Bartin
5.51346533 Turk_Aydin
5.53823076 Turk_Kastamonu
5.53902518 Turk_Karaman
5.54935131 Turk_Bolu
5.63393291 Turk_Isparta
5.67746422 Turk_Burdur
5.73608752 Turk_Bursa
6.06560797 Turk_Afyonkarahisa
6.29131147 Turk_Konya
6.32970773 Turk_Sakarya
6.43282986 Turk_Denizli
6.55735465 Turk_Canakkale
6.78697282 Turk_Nigde
6.91099848 Turk_Balikesir
7.06116846 Turk_Adana
7.13216657 Turk_Aksaray
7.22811179 Turk_Antalya
7.29124132 Turk_Nevsehir
7.48099592 Turk_Ordu
7.53803025 Turk_Mersin
7.53868689 Turk_Afyon
7.54949667 Turk_Izmir
8.29225542 Turk_Kayseri
8.35829528 Turk_Sinop
8.36752652 Turk_Corum
8.37581041 Turk_Yozgat
8.71117673 Turk_Kirsehir
8.77010262 Turk_Giresun_North
8.81878109 Turk_Tokat
8.98761370 Turk_Osmaniye
9.38617601 Turk_Kahranmaras
9.66148539 Turk_Samsun
9.71007724 Turk_Hatay
9.90897573 Turk_Kilis
9.91896164 Turk_Sivas
10.21589937 Turk_Sereflikochisar
10.23033235 Turk_Mugla
10.76343811 Turk_Gaziantep
10.92264620 Turk_Giresun_South
11.61035744 Turk_Malatya
13.15767077 Turk_Kars
13.44360071 Turk_Erzincan
13.62560457 Turk_Igdir
13.84193989 Turk_Elazig
14.61351771 Turk_Sanliurfa
15.75165706 Turk_Gumushane
17.62912647 Turk_Edirne
18.30882847 Turk_Erzurum
21.02489715 Turk_Artvin
21.54246736 Turk_Ardahan
22.20336236 Iranian_Fars
22.84164180 Turk_Trabzon
24.63161383 Turk_Rize




Updated Dodecad K12b + Turkish cities:

Distance to: Hapanuwa
3.70122953 Turk_Zonguldak
3.96929465 Turk_West_BlackSea
4.08526621 Turk_Cankiri
4.24113192 Turk_Karabuk
4.84754577 Turk_Ankara
5.27724360 Turk_Eskisehir
5.32200150 Turk_Usak
5.32760734 Turk_Kuhtaya
5.40141648 Turk_Manisa
5.49059195 Turk_Bartin
5.51346533 Turk_Aydin
5.53823076 Turk_Kastamonu
5.53902518 Turk_Karaman
5.54935131 Turk_Bolu
5.63393291 Turk_Isparta
5.67746422 Turk_Burdur
5.70936949 Turk_Southwest
5.73608752 Turk_Bursa
5.81940719 Turk_Northwest
6.04110917 Turk_Central_West
6.06560797 Turk_Afyonkarahisa
6.29131147 Turk_Konya
6.31676341 Turk_Anatolia
6.32970773 Turk_Sakarya
6.43282986 Turk_Denizli
6.55735465 Turk_Canakkale
6.78697282 Turk_Nigde
6.91099848 Turk_Balikesir
7.06116846 Turk_Adana
7.13216657 Turk_Aksaray
7.22811179 Turk_Antalya
7.29124132 Turk_Nevsehir
7.48099592 Turk_Ordu
7.53803025 Turk_Mersin
7.53868689 Turk_Afyon
7.54949667 Turk_Izmir
8.29225542 Turk_Kayseri
8.33671398 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.35829528 Turk_Sinop
8.36752652 Turk_Corum
8.37581041 Turk_Yozgat
8.55150864 Turk_Central_East
8.71117673 Turk_Kirsehir
8.77010262 Turk_Giresun_North
8.81878109 Turk_Tokat
8.98761370 Turk_Osmaniye
9.32732545 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
9.38617601 Turk_Kahranmaras
9.66148539 Turk_Samsun
9.71007724 Turk_Hatay
9.90897573 Turk_Kilis
9.91896164 Turk_Sivas
10.06895724 Yoruk
10.21589937 Turk_Sereflikochisar
10.23033235 Turk_Mugla
10.44620984 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
10.76343811 Turk_Gaziantep
10.92264620 Turk_Giresun_South
11.61035744 Turk_Malatya
12.12288332 Greek_Crete
13.15767077 Turk_Kars
13.26804055 Azerbaijani
13.31683521 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.44360071 Turk_Erzincan
13.62560457 Turk_Igdir
13.84193989 Turk_Elazig
14.35203637 Italy_Apulia
14.61351771 Turk_Sanliurfa
14.68382103 Turk_East
14.91266576 Ashkenazy_Jews
15.03411454 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.18449942 Italy_Calabria
15.34093429 Italy_Sicily
15.75165706 Turk_Gumushane
15.81096771 Greek_Cappadocia
16.06980709 Ashkenazi
16.43343439 Italy_Campania
16.92327810 Italy_Abruzzo
16.94735378 Nusayri_Turkey
17.45399095 Turkmen_Iraq
17.62912647 Turk_Edirne
17.74104563 Greek
17.93337113 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.94972145 Sephardic_Jews
18.17086129 Zaza
18.27476128 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
18.30882847 Turk_Erzurum
21.02489715 Turk_Artvin
21.54246736 Turk_Ardahan
22.20336236 Iranian_Fars
22.84164180 Turk_Trabzon
24.63161383 Turk_Rize
18.84798132 Armenian_East
18.93849783 Lebanese
18.95564560 Circassian
19.37665864 Kurd_Sorani
19.76301596 Nogais
19.90414530 Armenian_West
19.92233169 Talysh_Azerbaijan
19.92233169 Talysh_Azerbaijan
19.93558376 Cypriots
20.00706625 Kumyks
20.20620449 Uzbekistan_Jews

[Kyp]

nice:thumb001:
interesting that you're closer to West Black Sea region

[Bosniensis]

Distance from Turk_Zonguldak and Turk_Rize from 3 to 24.

Western Balkanites score Greece 15 and consider them different people and civilization.

Can you now imagine how diverse Turkey is?

You are an Empire not Nation.

[Kyp]

Distance from Turk_Zonguldak and Turk_Rize from 3 to 24.

Western Balkanites score Greece 15 and consider them different people and civilization.

Can you now imagine how diverse Turkey is?

You are an Empire not Nation.

They are an outlier population:

Distance to: Turk_Rize
0.83132424 Hemshin
0.85941841 Laz
2.68287160 Turk_Trabzon
3.85350490 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.26933250 Georgian_Adjara
4.58233565 Greek_Pontus
5.15135904 Georgian_Turkey
5.92352091 Turk_Artvin
6.32193799 Turk_Ahiska
6.45630699 Turk_Ardahan
7.50759615 Georgian_Imereti
8.59375355 Turk_Erzurum
9.21260007 Armenian_East
9.51563976 Georgian_Gurian
9.75737157 Azerbaijan_Jews
9.80488654 Armenian_West
9.90441821 Georgia_Jews
10.05087558 Turk_Gumushane
10.08921702 Georgian_Mingrelian
10.41317915 Assyrian
12.21625147 Turk_East
12.31169769 Georgian_Svan
13.48585185 Assyrian
13.74709424 Turk_Erzincan
14.57862819 Turk_Giresun_South


Difference from Easternmost Turks, the Azeris (who are considered a different population) to Izmir is only like 10

Pretty normal for such a huge country.

[Hapanuwa]

nice:thumb001:
interesting that you're closer to West Black Sea region

Yeah, I didn't expect to be closer to West Black Sea region. Very interesting to see that the first 5 cities are not from the Aegean region and that I'm closer to Azerbaijanis than to Turks from Elazig and Igdir.

What I don't understand is how there's 2 Afyon averages and both are relatively far compared to other cities and other Aegean cities especially.

Also seeing that the Italian averages are closer to me than Turks from Trakya, Gumushane and Erzurum is very interesting.

[Kyp]

Very interesting to see that the first 5 cities are not from the Aegean region and that I'm closer to Azerbaijanis than to Turks from Elazig and Igdir.


Yeah but the changes are very minimal. It could easily be the other way around. Wouldn't overrate it. After all Elazig and Igdir are just Azeris aswell.



What I don't understand is how there's 2 Afyon averages and both are relatively far compared to other cities and other Aegean cities especially.

Looks like Afyon is on average more West-Asian shifted than you are. Minor changes can change the results quite drastically on an individual basis. But averages will even these thing out.


Also seeing that the Italian averages are closer to me than Turks from Trakya, Gumushane and Erzurum is very interesting.

Erzurum is mostly Armenian/Caucasus population genetically. For example my father (from Iran) is closer to Aegan than to Erzurum, which is also interesting..

[Borz1980]

Afyonun neresi? K12B?

[Arzanene]

Afyonkarahisar province results from the spreadsheet
Afyonkarahisar1,15.16,7.73,0,0,15.65,11.24,0.67,0, 11.12,5.02,33.41,0
Afyonkarahisar2,14.39,3.26,1.19,0,14.57,13.85,1.63 ,0,10.34,5.68,35.08,0
Afyonkarahisar3,11.61,5.88,2.07,1.86,14.53,15.42,1 .63,0,10.49,2.35,34.15,0
Afyonkarahisar4,16.79,5.09,0.49,0.34,12.8,11.22,2. 9,0,11.11,4.33,34.81,0.13
Afyonkarahisar5,14.87,5.04,1.22,0,14.21,11.62,2.05 ,0.48,10.63,6.07,33.66,0.13
Afyonkarahisar6,15.01,5.12,0.93,0.22,13.55,9.18,0. 93,0.71,11.51,3.02,39.62,0.21
Afyonkarahisar7,13.28,4.5,0.93,0.17,13.23,17.53,0. 05,0,9.22,4.92,36.16,0
Afyonkarahisar8,10.44,3.39,1.37,3.13,14.64,13.72,1 .32,0.21,10.33,4.63,36.83,0
Afyonkarahisar9,14.52,4.08,1,0,16.72,16.69,0.12,0, 9.84,3.3,33.73,0
Afyonkarahisar_Emirdağ2,14.7,4.04,0,2.65,13.15,10. 31,2.7,1.07,10.98,2.8,38.04,0
Afyonkarahisar_Emirdağ3, 16.34, 5.08, 2.2, 0.88, 10.1, 12.74, 0, 0, 10.91, 4.83, 36.92, 0
Afyonkarahisar_Emirdağ4,15.81,5.55,1.55,1.14,12.17 ,10.23,1.13,0.34,8.59,6.93,36.55,0
Afyonkarahisar_Emirdağ5,15.4,7.64,0.58,0,9.23,11.0 6,2.14,0.14,11.49,4.3,37.91,0.11
Afyonkarahisar_Emirdağ6, 17.54, 4.39, 1.51, 0.89, 9.87, 10.65, 0, 0.46, 10.07, 4.81, 39.81, 0