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Adamm
02-25-2020, 01:00 PM
Have fun :D


ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002,0.110408,0.159438,0.0007 54,-0.064277,0.027697,-0.02008,-0.009165,-0.001846,0.02352,0.04155,0.006658,-0.001948,-0.002081,-0.003028,-0.00285,-0.008353,-0.009518,-0.005194,0.009302,-0.006253,0,-0.011871,0.001356,-0.011086,-0.003113
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003,0.120652,0.157407,0.0150 85,-0.051357,0.03416,-0.01506,-0.009165,0.002538,0.02168,0.04319,0.008931,0.00614 5,-0.006541,-0.009358,0.000679,-0.005569,-0.012386,0.013429,-0.001383,-0.021885,-0.006114,-0.002597,-0.003451,-0.011568,0.000239
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002,0.119514,0.17264,0.03582 6,-0.05168,0.074168,-0.026495,-0.00047,-0.001154,0.046631,0.089296,-0.00406,0.020382,-0.038949,-0.013625,-0.016829,-0.007425,0.007823,-0.000127,-0.001885,-0.013632,-0.003619,0.005935,-0.010106,-0.034342,-0.000958
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006,0.053497,0.166547,0.0207 42,-0.060401,0.043085,-0.030678,-0.00987,0.005538,0.050517,0.041368,-0.00341,0.001649,0.008622,-0.009771,0.00095,-0.001193,0.015125,-0.012922,-0.007793,0.001,-0.001872,-0.021887,0.00912,-0.000843,0.001437
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007,0.071709,0.151314,0.0086 74,-0.0646,0.040931,-0.03263,-0.014806,0.003692,0.032519,0.043919,0.001624,-0.004796,-0.003865,-0.01734,-0.007193,-0.011668,-0.004955,-0.0019,-0.002263,-0.010005,-0.011729,-0.008903,-0.00419,-0.009278,0.004191
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010,0.050082,0.152329,0.0015 08,-0.081719,0.033545,-0.032351,-0.009165,-0.002769,0.035996,0.031709,0.001949,-0.005245,0.000297,-0.019405,-0.002986,0.001591,0.017863,-0.010388,-0.013073,0.001626,-0.013102,-0.007172,-0.003574,-0.011929,0.019759
ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011,0.030732,0.146236,0.0041 48,-0.072675,0.035083,-0.038766,-0.009635,0.002769,0.060335,0.041914,0.010555,-0.008692,0.008474,-0.013074,0.007736,-0.001458,0.007562,-0.023057,-0.023506,0.003377,-0.019091,-0.019661,0.022061,-0.004699,0.014609
Voskos
02-25-2020, 02:04 PM
scaled?or?
dududud
02-25-2020, 02:12 PM
My mother, half sardinian and half french:

0.05071754 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.07201549 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.08712957 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.08948406 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
0.11096243 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
0.12264767 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
0.14591646 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011

Distance: 4.8239% / 0.04823890
100.0 ITA_Sardinia_Punic


They are native sardinians or mixed samples?
Nassbean
02-25-2020, 02:23 PM
what we see is interesting and confirms what I've been saying for years : the first phoenicians who settled there were of course levantines and with time they mixed with the locals ...later the punics came and they were genetically north africans with some of them being mixed with the locals. And they said I was claiming carthage ...:picard1:
Voskos
02-25-2020, 02:25 PM
And they said I was claiming carthage

nigga stole my bike
Pedro Ruben
02-25-2020, 03:04 PM
Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 7.3105% / 0.07310491

67.8 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
32.2 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
Adamm
02-25-2020, 08:28 PM
scaled?or?

Scaled


My mother, half sardinian and half french:

0.05071754 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.07201549 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.08712957 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.08948406 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
0.11096243 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
0.12264767 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
0.14591646 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011

Distance: 4.8239% / 0.04823890
100.0 ITA_Sardinia_Punic


They are native sardinians or mixed samples?

Native Sardinians mixed with Punics. Some samples could also be modeled as 1/3 and 2/3 N. African.


Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 7.3105% / 0.07310491

67.8 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
32.2 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006

What is your closest sample from these?
dududud
02-25-2020, 08:53 PM
Scaled



Native Sardinians mixed with Punics. Some samples could also be modeled as 1/3 and 2/3 N. African.



What is your closest sample from these?

Are they outlier? Do we have native sardinians non mixed (this is what i means by "native")?
FilhoV
02-25-2020, 11:34 PM
[B] Target: ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic:SUA006
Distance: 5.6358% / 0.05635786
100.0 Sardinian

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
Distance: 2.4703% / 0.02470322
38.2 Sardinian
28.8 Middle_Eastern
21.8 Italian
7.4 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
3.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
Distance: 3.0384% / 0.03038355
35.6 Sardinian
30.8 Italian
22.4 Middle_Eastern
8.8 Iberian
2.0 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
0.4 Mizrahi_Jewish-Iranian/Iraqi

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
Distance: 3.0743% / 0.03074341
100.0 Sardinian

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
Distance: 3.0135% / 0.03013483
47.6 Sardinian
35.2 North_African
8.2 Middle_Eastern
6.8 Baltic
2.2 Ethiopian_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
Distance: 2.4746% / 0.02474634
48.2 Sardinian
20.4 North_African
11.8 Middle_Eastern
11.2 Italian
6.8 Yemenite_Jewish
0.8 Nigerian
0.4 Eskimo/Inuit
0.4 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
Distance: 3.5733% / 0.03573261
44.2 Sardinian
25.4 North_African
14.4 Middle_Eastern
10.2 West_Asian
5.8 Ethiopian_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011
Distance: 2.9047% / 0.02904712
56.8 North_African
31.6 Sardinian
10.0 Middle_Eastern
1.2 Baltic
0.2 Mongolian
0.2 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Roman_Imperial:AMC014
Distance: 2.1526% / 0.02152596
77.8 Sardinian
12.2 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
9.2 Middle_Eastern
0.8 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic:ISC001
Distance: 4.9533% / 0.04953276
100.0 Sardinian
Adamm
02-25-2020, 11:40 PM
Are they outlier? Do we have native sardinians non mixed (this is what i means by "native")?

Yes I think they have been released today but I havent found the G25 coordinates for those yet.
Adamm
02-25-2020, 11:42 PM
[B] Target: ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic:SUA006
Distance: 5.6358% / 0.05635786
100.0 Sardinian

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
Distance: 2.4703% / 0.02470322
38.2 Sardinian
28.8 Middle_Eastern
21.8 Italian
7.4 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
3.8 Yemenite_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
Distance: 3.0384% / 0.03038355
35.6 Sardinian
30.8 Italian
22.4 Middle_Eastern
8.8 Iberian
2.0 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
0.4 Mizrahi_Jewish-Iranian/Iraqi

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
Distance: 3.0743% / 0.03074341
100.0 Sardinian

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
Distance: 3.0135% / 0.03013483
47.6 Sardinian
35.2 North_African
8.2 Middle_Eastern
6.8 Baltic
2.2 Ethiopian_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
Distance: 2.4746% / 0.02474634
48.2 Sardinian
20.4 North_African
11.8 Middle_Eastern
11.2 Italian
6.8 Yemenite_Jewish
0.8 Nigerian
0.4 Eskimo/Inuit
0.4 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
Distance: 3.5733% / 0.03573261
44.2 Sardinian
25.4 North_African
14.4 Middle_Eastern
10.2 West_Asian
5.8 Ethiopian_Jewish

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011
Distance: 2.9047% / 0.02904712
56.8 North_African
31.6 Sardinian
10.0 Middle_Eastern
1.2 Baltic
0.2 Mongolian
0.2 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Roman_Imperial:AMC014
Distance: 2.1526% / 0.02152596
77.8 Sardinian
12.2 Sephardic_Jewish-North_African
9.2 Middle_Eastern
0.8 Papuan

Target: ITA_Sardinia_Nuragic:ISC001
Distance: 4.9533% / 0.04953276
100.0 Sardinian

Sardinian Punic is basically a mix of Sardinians + Phoenicians + Berbers, right?
Nassbean
02-26-2020, 12:06 AM
Sardinian Punic is basically a mix of Sardinians + Phoenicians + Berbers, right?

monte sirai samples are logically a mix of early phoenician settlers + sardinians while villamar punic samples are a mix of "punic" (carthaginian settlers) + sardinians with one of them being "fully" north african
Pedro Ruben
02-26-2020, 12:35 AM
Scaled



Native Sardinians mixed with Punics. Some samples could also be modeled as 1/3 and 2/3 N. African.



What is your closest sample from these?

Distance to: Pedro_scaled
0.07919856 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.08829890 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.08960929 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.09734958 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
0.11398952 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
0.12546409 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
0.12656683 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011
Coastal Elite
02-26-2020, 12:40 AM
Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 10.6565% / 0.10656527
100.0 ITA_Sardinia_Punic

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.10656527 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.12138386 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.13879522 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.14976715 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
0.15288255 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
0.16331527 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
0.18152369 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011
Dick
02-26-2020, 12:41 AM
Are these the samples on the Sardinian flag?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4e/Flag_of_Sardinia%2C_Italy.svg/1200px-Flag_of_Sardinia%2C_Italy.svg.png
PT Tagus
02-26-2020, 12:59 AM
Target: PT_Tagus_scaled
Distance: 6.5123% / 0.06512263
100.0 ITA_Sardinia_Punic



Distance to: PT_Tagus_scaled
0.07196882 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR003
0.08139916 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:MSR002
0.08326369 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL007
0.09138688 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL006
0.10880521 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL010
0.11727222 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:ORC002
0.12468819 ITA_Sardinia_Punic:VIL011